Latest / The Breakfast Club / INTERVIEW: Miles Minnick On Christian Slaps, Linking With Lecrae, New Album + More
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Every day Up click yours.
- 0:03Speaker 3: Up the breakfast Club. You don't finish for y'all, dunk morning.
- 0:07Speaker 4: Everybody is the DJ Envy just hilarious, charlamage, the gud
- 0:10Speaker 4: We are the breakfast Club. Lonla Rosa is here. Yes, indeed,
- 0:13Speaker 4: you got a special guest in the building. We have
- 0:16Speaker 4: Miles Minnick.
- 0:17Speaker 3: Welcome. Did I see your last thing?
- 0:18Speaker 1: Right?
- 0:18Speaker 3: You did?
- 0:18Speaker 2: You did?
- 0:20Speaker 5: It was good man, blessed, holly flavored. Man, It's a
- 0:23Speaker 5: blessing to be here for sure.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Happy to have you.
- 0:25Speaker 6: Man.
- 0:25Speaker 7: You got an album uh coming out called Today Well
- 0:29Speaker 7: August one night called.
- 0:31Speaker 3: How You Pronounced It?
- 0:31Speaker 1: Via Dela Rosa.
- 0:32Speaker 7: I was listening to it. The best way to describe
- 0:34Speaker 7: it is a bunch of spiritual slaps.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, alright, slaps for the song. You know
- 0:39Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
- 0:40Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
- 0:41Speaker 7: Do you think there's a ceiling on how well a
- 0:44Speaker 7: Christian based artist in mainstream?
- 0:47Speaker 1: No? Okay, no, I don't.
- 0:48Speaker 5: I think I think we can take it as far
- 0:50Speaker 5: as anybody else could take it, because at the end
- 0:52Speaker 5: of the day, it's us talking about our real life experiences,
- 0:55Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, and rap it's all about
- 0:57Speaker 5: being authentic to yourself and so for me and being
- 0:59Speaker 5: true to me, like I'm a kid from Cali, I'm
- 1:01Speaker 5: a kid that fell in love with Jesus, you know
- 1:04Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And so I mixed all of that into the music.
- 1:06Speaker 3: That's what I want. I want to know when that happened.
- 1:08Speaker 4: Was it was it already in you as a kid
- 1:10Speaker 4: growing up or does something happen that says, nah, I'm
- 1:12Speaker 4: gonna shift my life for this.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Ah?
- 1:14Speaker 5: No, it was definitely it was not in me when
- 1:16Speaker 5: I was a kid, Like church was never like a
- 1:18Speaker 5: mediatory thing in my household, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:20Speaker 5: Like the most that we would ever do when it
- 1:22Speaker 5: came to God was like prevor food, you know what
- 1:24Speaker 5: I'm saying. So for me, I'll never forget. I was
- 1:26Speaker 5: sixteen years old in the middle of a smoking session.
- 1:28Speaker 1: I was a huge head. My friend Dante was like, hey, bro.
- 1:33Speaker 3: I'm the earth Man for you and me, Myles.
- 1:38Speaker 5: I feel but I had a stronghold on me back then,
- 1:40Speaker 5: so like, I'll never forget. My friend Dante was like, bro,
- 1:42Speaker 5: we should go to church right now.
- 1:45Speaker 1: Mid smoking session? Like that sound like yeaheah, he said.
- 1:51Speaker 5: We should go right now. I'm like, like for what
- 1:54Speaker 5: He's like, no, you don't Sunday. It was a Wednesday night,
- 1:56Speaker 5: so it was like yeah, yeah, for the youth group.
- 2:00Speaker 1: He's like, yo, it's all the high school girls.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Is there?
- 2:02Speaker 1: You understanding it? Be lit Like trust me, let's go.
- 2:05Speaker 1: And so they talked me into.
- 2:10Speaker 7: All the high school I want to make sure about
- 2:14Speaker 7: now I.
- 2:14Speaker 3: Know why you're in.
- 2:18Speaker 5: And so we got there, but the youth group was
- 2:22Speaker 5: closed at night, so he went into the main service
- 2:24Speaker 5: with the adults and me being the main one who
- 2:26Speaker 5: didn't want to be there. I'm like on the edge
- 2:28Speaker 5: of my seat, like actually like listening and like tapped in.
- 2:31Speaker 5: And I had no prior experience to church, so I
- 2:33Speaker 5: don't know the rules of it and nothing, but I
- 2:35Speaker 5: know like I felt something I never felt before. And
- 2:37Speaker 5: then the pastor didn't off the cala at the end.
- 2:39Speaker 5: Out of this pack church, I was the only one
- 2:41Speaker 5: to go to the front tiers of my eyes.
- 2:43Speaker 1: I don't even know why I'm crying.
- 2:44Speaker 5: And then he prayed for me, and I literally feel
- 2:47Speaker 5: like God take away one how I gave me a
- 2:48Speaker 5: knowing And then I started to investigate what that feeling was,
- 2:52Speaker 5: and that let me here.
- 2:53Speaker 3: No gotta think the weak. That's God man. The weed
- 2:58Speaker 3: is from the earth. You and your many high. He
- 3:01Speaker 3: got a calling and he led you right where you.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Need it to be.
- 3:04Speaker 3: He said, you gotta think it led you right where
- 3:08Speaker 3: you need to be.
- 3:09Speaker 1: Dang, and God can use whatever you want to use.
- 3:11Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
- 3:13Speaker 8: He gave you a new eye. So what did you
- 3:16Speaker 8: start seeing with the new eye?
- 3:18Speaker 1: Well, a new high at new high new for sure,
- 3:22Speaker 1: but like like.
- 3:25Speaker 8: Yeah, no, I'm just wondering because I know, like a
- 3:27Speaker 8: lot of times people say, like when people get baptized,
- 3:30Speaker 8: for instance, or at least in black churches, when you
- 3:32Speaker 8: get baptized, it's supposed to be like okay, now I'm
- 3:35Speaker 8: like I can start fresh and I've repented and all
- 3:38Speaker 8: the things. I was wondering if you had that feeling
- 3:40Speaker 8: of like instantly, here's some things I'm gonna let go,
- 3:42Speaker 8: or like what was the renewed feeling?
- 3:45Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was definitely a process for me to
- 3:47Speaker 5: like let go the old ways, you know what I'm saying.
- 3:49Speaker 5: Because I was like the party dude, Like I would
- 3:51Speaker 5: gather all my friends from the school, like.
- 3:52Speaker 1: Let's go to this function, let's go to the op
- 3:55Speaker 1: or whatever.
- 3:55Speaker 5: And so I would try to be on that same road,
- 3:58Speaker 5: but I'll never forget, Like I'll have like threty people
- 4:00Speaker 5: with me walking to a party, and then I'm I'll
- 4:02Speaker 5: walk slower and slower, and it's.
- 4:04Speaker 1: Like like go home, you know what I'm saying.
- 4:08Speaker 5: And I trying to say out of the streets because
- 4:09Speaker 5: I have, like my appetite slowly but surely started to
- 4:12Speaker 5: change after that day.
- 4:13Speaker 1: For sure.
- 4:14Speaker 7: You know, your music is so unapologetically you know, about
- 4:17Speaker 7: God and Christ in it.
- 4:18Speaker 3: How do you balance staying.
- 4:20Speaker 7: Bold about your faith with you know, while still making
- 4:22Speaker 7: them slaps mm hmmm.
- 4:25Speaker 5: I mean it's just it's both as authentically who I am.
- 4:30Speaker 5: I grew up on mac dre e forty, you know
- 4:33Speaker 5: what I'm saying, like in all the sudden color fame
- 4:35Speaker 5: music as well. So it's like I lean into the
- 4:38Speaker 5: sound that's a part of my DNA and I just
- 4:40Speaker 5: I just tell my story, bro And and really I
- 4:43Speaker 5: like to what they say is a mix of medicine
- 4:45Speaker 5: in with the candy, because like when you first hear it,
- 4:47Speaker 5: a lot of people say they don't know it's Christian
- 4:49Speaker 5: until like the third or fourth listen.
- 4:51Speaker 1: Oh, so they talking about God, you know what I'm saying.
- 4:53Speaker 1: So that's how we run it.
- 4:55Speaker 3: A Christian based artists and a gospel ortist.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Uh. I guess it depends.
- 5:00Speaker 5: It's like if you want to get into like like
- 5:02Speaker 5: the worship like like singing type of music, I would
- 5:05Speaker 5: say the gospel genre versus the Christian or CCM, which
- 5:09Speaker 5: is a contemporary Christian Gospel is more so like Black
- 5:12Speaker 5: Church and CCM is more like, you know, evangelical the
- 5:16Speaker 5: White Church, you know what I mean.
- 5:17Speaker 1: So like Kirk Franklin is.
- 5:19Speaker 5: Like gospel elevation worship is like CCM, you know what
- 5:23Speaker 5: I mean.
- 5:24Speaker 8: And your music are you trying to because not even
- 5:28Speaker 8: your visuals as well. I saw the video you put
- 5:30Speaker 8: up when you were doing High Fee for God.
- 5:31Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah.
- 5:33Speaker 8: Are you trying to? Like do you do you want
- 5:35Speaker 8: to reach people who are already Christians, already believers or
- 5:38Speaker 8: do you use you mix the medicine with the King
- 5:41Speaker 8: to bring in people that you want to deliver and
- 5:44Speaker 8: bring to the Word, Like what's your focus?
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 5:46Speaker 5: So definitely, like I definitely want to reach people that
- 5:49Speaker 5: believe what I believe. But I would say my main
- 5:51Speaker 5: focus right now is recent folks that that don't necessarily
- 5:53Speaker 5: believe it.
- 5:54Speaker 1: I believe, you know what I mean.
- 5:55Speaker 5: And that's why I like everything that on my Instagram
- 5:59Speaker 5: right now, is it's tailored towards reaching people who don't
- 6:03Speaker 5: have the same experiences as me as far as God
- 6:06Speaker 5: is concerned, but may have the same like street experiences
- 6:09Speaker 5: as me, or like fan of him.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
- 6:11Speaker 8: And it felt so bad feeling like this, But when
- 6:14Speaker 8: I went to your Instagram, I was like, he doesn't
- 6:16Speaker 8: give what people would think when they hear Christian artists
- 6:20Speaker 8: or gospel based artists like but I have in my church.
- 6:23Speaker 8: I got homies in my church that are like the
- 6:25Speaker 8: Jordans and sneaker lovers that you know what I mean.
- 6:27Speaker 8: But I think people have like this idea of like
- 6:29Speaker 8: what a young Christian leader or whatever should be like.
- 6:32Speaker 8: But you were complete opposite aesthetic everything.
- 6:35Speaker 1: Yeah. So for so, I mean like, I don't want
- 6:38Speaker 1: to be something I'm not. You know what I'm saying.
- 6:40Speaker 1: I want to be unapologetically who God made me to be.
- 6:43Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I grew up in a
- 6:45Speaker 5: one parent household. I grew up doing drug selling drugs.
- 6:48Speaker 5: My brother in jail right now, you know what I mean.
- 6:49Speaker 5: It's like the culture I grew up in. It's hard
- 6:53Speaker 5: to extract that from my DNA. So it's just give
- 6:55Speaker 5: what you get, you know.
- 6:56Speaker 8: I was like, what's your family dynamic like because you
- 6:59Speaker 8: said didn't grow up with God in the house as much?
- 7:01Speaker 1: Correct, A.
- 7:04Speaker 5: Big shout out shout out to Pops Man. Yeah, the
- 7:07Speaker 5: og jeff Mini Senior, West Pillsburgh, California. He's my biggest
- 7:12Speaker 5: fan for show. He doesn't necessarily live the life that
- 7:15Speaker 5: I live. He's still the og out there. He about
- 7:18Speaker 5: sixty right now, but still like going to them clubs,
- 7:24Speaker 5: all in the club and from my brother Jeffrey. I
- 7:27Speaker 5: think he'll be out in a couple of weeks. Actually,
- 7:30Speaker 5: he's been down for a few years years. Yeah, yeah,
- 7:34Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, God has been
- 7:36Speaker 5: working on him too, in himself, So looking forward to that.
- 7:39Speaker 7: You know what's so interesting And I was thinking about
- 7:42Speaker 7: this the other day and you made me think about it,
- 7:44Speaker 7: just having this conversation. When I look at somebody like
- 7:46Speaker 7: La Craze with that new reconstruction model, you know, your project.
- 7:51Speaker 7: What I'm realizing is I had a perception of what
- 7:55Speaker 7: I thought Christian rappers are supposed to say.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Like, and honestly, I don't even know what that is.
- 8:03Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just like, I just thought that they're supposed
- 8:07Speaker 7: to sound this way, and they they not post to
- 8:09Speaker 7: rap over these kind of records, and they might be
- 8:12Speaker 7: you know, rapping the way you wrap it away the
- 8:13Speaker 7: crazy rapper. It's like where that came from? Where I
- 8:15Speaker 7: even get that perception from.
- 8:16Speaker 8: That's how I felt when I looked at your Instagram
- 8:18Speaker 8: and I was like, why do I feel like people
- 8:20Speaker 8: should look a certain way because you in the.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Church at church right right? You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 8:26Speaker 1: I mean.
- 8:27Speaker 3: We've seen by the way, we've seen drunk aunties in
- 8:28Speaker 3: the church all the time. You're not the church the
- 8:35Speaker 3: church drunk with a couple of guys, you know what
- 8:37Speaker 3: I mean. Didn't Jesus drink wine?
- 8:42Speaker 1: Jesus turned water into wine.
- 8:44Speaker 8: Okay, so it's whatever.
- 8:47Speaker 3: Did Jesus drink wine? I'm not drinking.
- 8:51Speaker 8: I'm not any stances of any sort. I'm actually doing
- 8:54Speaker 8: a fast right now, just in that you're here.
- 8:56Speaker 3: But why is that? Why do you have that mindset.
- 8:59Speaker 1: I don't know, uh, I think I think you know.
- 9:01Speaker 5: A lot of us, you know, grew up in church,
- 9:04Speaker 5: and and for many of us, church wasn't a place
- 9:07Speaker 5: that we wanted to go to.
- 9:08Speaker 1: You know.
- 9:09Speaker 5: I wasn't heavy in church as a kid, but I
- 9:11Speaker 5: remember going to Easter service with my grandma, and that's
- 9:14Speaker 5: the last thing I wanted to do.
- 9:15Speaker 1: I didn't enjoy it.
- 9:16Speaker 5: I had to endure it. And so a lot of
- 9:18Speaker 5: people have the same experience. And so when they think
- 9:21Speaker 5: of Christian rap or gospel rap, it's like, oh, man,
- 9:24Speaker 5: I ain't trying to hear that. It's probably they probably
- 9:26Speaker 5: got a three piece suit on, some alligator shoes that's
- 9:29Speaker 5: too big for them. You know what I'm saying, Like,
- 9:31Speaker 5: I ain't trying to I ain't trying to hear that.
- 9:33Speaker 5: But if you just tap into it, you may be
- 9:34Speaker 5: surprised of what you get.
- 9:36Speaker 3: If you think it's still misunderstood about the Christian rap.
- 9:39Speaker 5: John mmmm, that we're not as good as everybody else.
- 9:43Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, That we don't have the
- 9:44Speaker 5: same potential and ability to top the charts and sell
- 9:47Speaker 5: our shows like everybody else.
- 9:48Speaker 3: I totally create that when he was hit last time.
- 9:50Speaker 7: I said, Man, if you weren't a Christian artist, people
- 9:52Speaker 7: would hear Reconstruction and they would just say, Yo, this
- 9:55Speaker 7: should be in the rap album of.
- 9:56Speaker 1: The year, clearly, clearly, clearly. And that's why, you know.
- 10:00Speaker 5: I mean, folks are coming with they want to call me,
- 10:01Speaker 5: but I'm reluctant of the title because of that fact,
- 10:03Speaker 5: Like do I want to put myself in a certain box,
- 10:06Speaker 5: you know what i mean. But I'm grateful that even
- 10:08Speaker 5: though I'm labeled as that, we are reaching certain heights.
- 10:10Speaker 1: I mean, I'm on a breakfast club, bro, Like, what.
- 10:12Speaker 3: Were you talking about? And you've been mentioning here before
- 10:14Speaker 3: you even got in.
- 10:15Speaker 1: I've seen that. I've seen that. Shout out to John
- 10:18Speaker 1: Keith and Dark Child, Man, I was crazy.
- 10:20Speaker 4: I want to ask you, so what what got you
- 10:21Speaker 4: into rappid? What made you say this is what I
- 10:23Speaker 4: want to do?
- 10:24Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 10:24Speaker 4: Was it the same high day or was it?
- 10:26Speaker 3: What?
- 10:27Speaker 1: Similar times? Similar? Similar time in my life? For sure?
- 10:29Speaker 1: So I grew up in a musical family. Shout out
- 10:31Speaker 1: to Uncle Moe.
- 10:32Speaker 5: He turned my grandma's garage into a studio, you know,
- 10:34Speaker 5: saying it all my cousins, my brother and they was
- 10:37Speaker 5: just in a lab every single summer, just locked in.
- 10:40Speaker 5: And I was an introverted kid just soaking it all in.
- 10:43Speaker 5: But when I turned fifteen, I just started a freestyling
- 10:46Speaker 5: every day, just going going.
- 10:48Speaker 1: All my friends like moles Bro you trashed, Just stop, Bro,
- 10:51Speaker 1: just stop. But I kept going a bunch of friends
- 10:53Speaker 1: like Charla man ahead, Hey look yeah, trolling me.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Uh.
- 10:58Speaker 5: But then, but when I was sixteen, though, we started
- 11:00Speaker 5: a rap group in high school. Group it was a squad,
- 11:05Speaker 5: like active squad back in the day like get Active
- 11:07Speaker 5: was like the moving back then. And so did a
- 11:09Speaker 5: talent show, won the whole talent show. When I was sixteen,
- 11:12Speaker 5: went solo.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And you know it's crazy.
- 11:15Speaker 5: When I went solo that year for the talent show,
- 11:18Speaker 5: all the judges was Christian rap artists, like on a
- 11:21Speaker 5: on a low. They was all Christian artists. But I
- 11:23Speaker 5: only knew that because I was a part of the
- 11:25Speaker 5: Black student Union. And so I said, yo, if I'm
- 11:27Speaker 5: a win this talent show, let me do a creation
- 11:30Speaker 5: rap song. And that that look, he was a part
- 11:32Speaker 5: of my transformation as well, like first dabbling into that
- 11:34Speaker 5: joint and we won that joint too.
- 11:37Speaker 7: Yeah, I also think about it, because you know, you
- 11:40Speaker 7: always hear Christians and gospel artists talk about secular music.
- 11:44Speaker 3: So in my mind, I know what secular music sounds like.
- 11:48Speaker 3: I guess when I hear your joint, I'm like, this
- 11:51Speaker 3: sounds like secular music, but it's not. Like it sounds
- 11:54Speaker 3: like it, but it's not. Yeah, So I'm like, is
- 11:57Speaker 3: it to sound too? Can you are allowed to make
- 12:00Speaker 3: these slap smiles?
- 12:01Speaker 5: Am I allowed to make the slaves? If I'm allowed
- 12:04Speaker 5: to do it or not, I'm gonna do it, you
- 12:05Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. What I'm saying, But that's the intention.
- 12:07Speaker 5: Like I wanted to be able to blend in with
- 12:10Speaker 5: everything else. I want to be on the playlist with
- 12:12Speaker 5: everybody else. I don't want you to hear it and
- 12:14Speaker 5: be like, Yo, what is this this church music? Like
- 12:17Speaker 5: I wanted to feel like something you could play in
- 12:18Speaker 5: the club, so they could play it in the club,
- 12:20Speaker 5: so they could play it on the radio. Shout out
- 12:22Speaker 5: to all the radio sass playing our song with he
- 12:24Speaker 5: forty and the crab Man. We are number thirty one
- 12:25Speaker 5: rhythmic radio all over America right now, and I'm saying
- 12:28Speaker 5: the name of Jesus on the record, but it's slave,
- 12:31Speaker 5: it's slap, and so we're gonna keep going in this
- 12:33Speaker 5: lane for shure.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Man Head has been talking to me about you for
- 12:36Speaker 3: so long. DJ head DZ.
- 12:38Speaker 7: Yeah, Man, it's funny because I'm thinking you just another
- 12:41Speaker 7: new dope rapper from the West, and he never told
- 12:44Speaker 7: me you was a Christian artist.
- 12:45Speaker 3: He wanted me to hear the music.
- 12:47Speaker 7: He was like, Yo, you need to listen to this
- 12:48Speaker 7: dude mouth and he just sent me a bunch of
- 12:51Speaker 7: music and I'm just listening, like, yeah, he tough.
- 12:54Speaker 3: And then I'm like he's like, yo, you know he're
- 12:55Speaker 3: a Christian rapper. I'm like a Christian rapper. I just
- 12:59Speaker 3: thought you was spiritual. Yeah, that's not new, like you
- 13:04Speaker 3: know and everybody, so that's not new.
- 13:06Speaker 1: I just I was like, damn exactly exactly.
- 13:10Speaker 5: I'm just talking about my faith, man, I'm talking about
- 13:12Speaker 5: what's important to me. But you're still finish get that base,
- 13:14Speaker 5: You're still finna get them hooks.
- 13:15Speaker 4: I want to ask, like you mentioned DMX, right, so
- 13:18Speaker 4: what makes a Christian rapper Christian rapper? Was DMX a
- 13:20Speaker 4: Christian rapper because he shoots you on one record.
- 13:24Speaker 1: At the end of that ended out.
- 13:26Speaker 5: You know, yo yo, must let the DMX man long Live,
- 13:30Speaker 5: Long Lived. So I think I think what classified somebody
- 13:35Speaker 5: as a Christian rapper is when their whole catalog is
- 13:38Speaker 5: aimed in that direction.
- 13:40Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 13:40Speaker 5: People can make faith based songs, but if their catalog
- 13:44Speaker 5: doesn't reflect that holistically, then I don't think we can
- 13:47Speaker 5: put that label on them, you know what I'm saying,
- 13:50Speaker 5: Except I don't know chance the rapper Loky really I mean,
- 13:54Speaker 5: but but that's a hot take, though I'll get flamed
- 13:56Speaker 5: of saying that. But like a lot of a lot
- 13:59Speaker 5: of his music is faith, especially like Coloring Book, like
- 14:01Speaker 5: he had worship songs on that absolute you know what
- 14:04Speaker 5: I'm saying, and even on this one, like he got
- 14:06Speaker 5: real Christian based songs on that joint.
- 14:10Speaker 7: With the Life of Pablo album.
- 14:16Speaker 3: This is a gondream to me, that.
- 14:19Speaker 1: Was that was a Christian song.
- 14:21Speaker 8: A lot of music artists will always say or like
- 14:24Speaker 8: happened to like like you said, grow up in church
- 14:27Speaker 8: or go to church of some sort where, like that's
- 14:30Speaker 8: your experience in music young, And they bring that in
- 14:33Speaker 8: because they're using choirs and all the instruments, so it
- 14:36Speaker 8: feels like Baptist Church.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
- 14:39Speaker 5: They say a lot of the the most iconic musicians
- 14:43Speaker 5: actually come out of the church, you know, like Aretha Franklin,
- 14:46Speaker 5: Whitney Houston. I think even Beyonce grew up in church too.
- 14:50Speaker 5: So like that at a young age, it shapes you.
- 14:52Speaker 5: Emojie for sure.
- 14:54Speaker 8: Are there artists that you like are looking forward to
- 14:57Speaker 8: working with that you haven't yet that might not be
- 14:59Speaker 8: in the christ Like who's taught? Who's like go to
- 15:03Speaker 8: number one?
- 15:05Speaker 1: Ken Jack Lama.
- 15:06Speaker 8: I can see that. I can see that very easily.
- 15:10Speaker 8: I'm surprised there's been no connection there.
- 15:13Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, listen, I'm one person away.
- 15:19Speaker 3: You know.
- 15:19Speaker 1: DJ Head is like you know what I mean?
- 15:21Speaker 5: And and even we're part of the same circles in
- 15:24Speaker 5: a lot of ways, and so I don't know, I.
- 15:27Speaker 3: Think you know, you know, OK, you got something.
- 15:30Speaker 1: K is low key like Batman.
- 15:32Speaker 5: He be watching from the shadows like and then's striking
- 15:36Speaker 5: like when it's time, uh, something to mine for sure,
- 15:40Speaker 5: like like a slap for the Saul.
- 15:42Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. What he does is not
- 15:44Speaker 1: far off.
- 15:44Speaker 3: It's not you know what I'm saying.
- 15:47Speaker 1: It's not far off.
- 15:48Speaker 5: Like he makes slaps with substance if you think about it,
- 15:51Speaker 5: like like even not like us, it's a slap with
- 15:53Speaker 5: substance to it. That third verse, he's schooling you, giving
- 15:56Speaker 5: you game and information, and so I think we can
- 16:00Speaker 5: make something special.
- 16:01Speaker 7: Was that a moment where you felt pressure the water
- 16:04Speaker 7: down your message for like broaday acceptance?
- 16:06Speaker 5: No never, no never never. You know, it's funny in
- 16:10Speaker 5: a lot of ways, I felt more embraced by the
- 16:13Speaker 5: secular than I did by the church initially, Like a
- 16:17Speaker 5: lot of the shows I was doing was like in
- 16:19Speaker 5: the hoods at the clubs, still doing this kind of music,
- 16:23Speaker 5: but they would be like turn it away, like the
- 16:25Speaker 5: energy would be crazy, you know. So I just my
- 16:29Speaker 5: entire career up to this point, I've kept it the same,
- 16:32Speaker 5: and I'm blessed that they could resonate with the church
- 16:34Speaker 5: audience and the general market.
- 16:37Speaker 4: Was it difficult at first though? Coming out coming from
- 16:40Speaker 4: going doing the hood clubs and the hood recorders? Was
- 16:43Speaker 4: that difficult at first when people are like, I don't
- 16:45Speaker 4: know about it, but did they show a lot of
- 16:46Speaker 4: love from the beginning.
- 16:47Speaker 5: No front of lokey front of beginning like I did
- 16:49Speaker 5: an a war ceremony in the bay. It was called
- 16:51Speaker 5: nine Quarter Awards. It was really like a gangster rap
- 16:54Speaker 5: a war ceremony, and I was the only Christian rapper
- 16:57Speaker 5: book there. I did Christian rap music all of that. Yeah,
- 17:01Speaker 5: I'll never forget. The music got cut off because of
- 17:04Speaker 5: a difficulty or whatever. And when the music cut off,
- 17:07Speaker 5: I did a freestyle.
- 17:08Speaker 1: I was like, devil want to run up on me.
- 17:10Speaker 1: It's bad. God on my side, God is my dad
- 17:12Speaker 1: at the Devil want to run upon me? It's bad.
- 17:15Speaker 1: The whole theater went stupid crazy. Somebody recorded it.
- 17:19Speaker 5: It went viral on Facebook, and that gave me like
- 17:22Speaker 5: my Christian rap career because of me being in an
- 17:25Speaker 5: environment like that, that just embraced, you know, authenticity.
- 17:28Speaker 3: Man, when it comes to rappers from the baby what
- 17:31Speaker 3: comes first to beat? A youall voice? Because your voice sounds.
- 17:33Speaker 6: Like the beat like to beat, like like like what
- 17:41Speaker 6: was like what comes first you? When I listened to forty, I'm.
- 17:44Speaker 3: Like, yeah, they sounds just like the beat.
- 17:48Speaker 8: Was about to energy. It is just like that too,
- 17:51Speaker 8: and that.
- 17:51Speaker 5: Yeah yea naturally I say, I say the beat, the
- 17:54Speaker 5: beat makes our voice do.
- 17:55Speaker 1: That, Like you know what I'm saying. Get you like grudging,
- 17:59Speaker 1: like it's the sneak.
- 18:00Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, YadA, Yeah, it just it
- 18:02Speaker 5: just comes out, you know what I'm saying, and shout
- 18:05Speaker 5: out the bay man.
- 18:06Speaker 1: It's no place like home.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Man.
- 18:07Speaker 7: When you did the method, did you tell forty what
- 18:10Speaker 7: to do?
- 18:11Speaker 3: Are you just sent the record?
- 18:12Speaker 1: Forty ain't new? It is? He true?
- 18:14Speaker 5: It is like he knew exactly how to fulfill the assignment.
- 18:18Speaker 5: So I just said, go crazy, and he went crazy.
- 18:21Speaker 5: But nout the only the only bar that people try
- 18:24Speaker 5: to target me about in regards to what he said.
- 18:26Speaker 5: It's like, every day is communic because I drink my
- 18:29Speaker 5: own wine. You know what I'm saying, Like people, it's.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Like every day is communion. You're promoting drinking every day?
- 18:36Speaker 1: Oh my god, his own wine? What do you mean?
- 18:38Speaker 1: I'm like, he got his own wine brand, Like let him.
- 18:42Speaker 1: Let him push his wine brand. The Bible talk about wine.
- 18:44Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
- 18:45Speaker 5: He talking about taking communion, like be happy with that.
- 18:49Speaker 3: That that'd be the biggest issue with all religion.
- 18:52Speaker 7: It's like especially Christianity because it's like it says dow
- 18:55Speaker 7: shall not judge, but it feels like you're only judging, Like,
- 18:58Speaker 7: why can't you just let people live even figure it
- 19:00Speaker 7: out on their own.
- 19:02Speaker 5: Track eight on my album talks about that. It's called
- 19:04Speaker 5: not my job. You know, Jesus said love God and
- 19:07Speaker 5: love people. He didn't say love God and judge people.
- 19:10Speaker 5: And so that's really what I stand on, and I
- 19:12Speaker 5: think that's larger part of why we're being so embraced
- 19:15Speaker 5: by the mainstream. It's like, I'm not pointing fingers at people,
- 19:19Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I'm not trying to condemn people.
- 19:23Speaker 5: I'm welcoming to people. I want to hear your perspective
- 19:25Speaker 5: here of your heart, you know what I'm saying. And
- 19:27Speaker 5: I let people. I let people just let them live
- 19:30Speaker 5: while I'm playing in my own seeds at the same time.
- 19:32Speaker 1: But yeah, it's what it is.
- 19:34Speaker 7: How do you measure the impact of your art? What
- 19:35Speaker 7: it be through sales, streams, testimonies? Are young people running
- 19:41Speaker 7: up on you saying, yo, your music changed my life,
- 19:42Speaker 7: like combination of it all, I think.
- 19:47Speaker 5: I think it becomes real to me when people actually
- 19:50Speaker 5: like pop out at the shows at our festivals. I
- 19:54Speaker 5: got a festival called glow Fests in the Bay each
- 19:57Speaker 5: and every single year, that thing just we break fire
- 20:01Speaker 5: cold in that joint and it's that. But then hearing
- 20:05Speaker 5: the stories like during the meet and Greece, like, man,
- 20:07Speaker 5: your music of me, get off of meth, Your music
- 20:09Speaker 5: of me, get off of off the bottle. You know
- 20:12Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like if it wasn't for your music,
- 20:14Speaker 5: I would have like off myself. Like those kind of
- 20:16Speaker 5: things really really put it into perspective, like what we're
- 20:19Speaker 5: doing has more impact than just turning somebody up.
- 20:23Speaker 1: It turns them up to look at the higher things,
- 20:25Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
- 20:26Speaker 4: Who was your influences coming out as a Christian raper,
- 20:28Speaker 4: who was somebody like I like the way he does.
- 20:30Speaker 5: It lookray O Craig was for sure for sure, And
- 20:33Speaker 5: I mean like he was the pioneer of this whole
- 20:37Speaker 5: lane and even taking it to the mainstream like win
- 20:40Speaker 5: of four Grammys, being the first one of us from
- 20:43Speaker 5: our lane to be on Breakfast Club to have a
- 20:45Speaker 5: number one album in twenty fifteen, like what we're talking about,
- 20:49Speaker 5: so to see, like the music is incredible, for sure,
- 20:51Speaker 5: but even like the branding the movement, him having a label,
- 20:55Speaker 5: him putting on other artists, and it was an easy
- 20:58Speaker 5: example to follow for.
- 20:59Speaker 3: Shure, y'all going on tour together.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Yes, they're it's a global tour.
- 21:02Speaker 5: I think I heard, yeah, they're yeah.
- 21:06Speaker 1: Uh, well he's actually starting the global run right now.
- 21:09Speaker 1: He going to Europe, Australia, Africa.
- 21:14Speaker 5: I'm just doing the North American run. But yeah, we're
- 21:17Speaker 5: doing thirty plus cities in America. So that thought October first.
- 21:22Speaker 4: Wow, how did y'a meet?
- 21:23Speaker 3: How did you look? Meat?
- 21:25Speaker 1: Super crazy story?
- 21:26Speaker 5: And so I back in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, he
- 21:30Speaker 5: was doing his Anomaly tour. He came to the Bay
- 21:32Speaker 5: Area and I was determined to meet him, but I
- 21:35Speaker 5: don't have meet and greet money, and so I snuck
- 21:37Speaker 5: by his tour bus and I waited by his tour
- 21:40Speaker 5: bus for hours to meet him. After he came out,
- 21:43Speaker 5: and when he came out, I shook his hand. I
- 21:46Speaker 5: was like, Lukray, you don't know who I am, but
- 21:48Speaker 5: one day I'm.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Gonna work with you. I'm gonna travel the world with you.
- 21:52Speaker 5: I'm gonna learn from you, and I'm gonna make the
- 21:55Speaker 5: same min name pack on the world as you, but
- 21:56Speaker 5: take it to higher heights.
- 21:58Speaker 1: He yel security.
- 22:00Speaker 5: No, he was like, I believe with you, young brother,
- 22:04Speaker 5: and then seven years after that he reached out to
- 22:06Speaker 5: me to do music, not even knowing that was me.
- 22:10Speaker 5: I did that that day, don't you remember after I
- 22:12Speaker 5: talked Yeah, at the end of our video shoot for
- 22:15Speaker 5: our first song, I'm like, remember that kid back in
- 22:16Speaker 5: the bay who like it was me?
- 22:18Speaker 1: He like you, that was you?
- 22:20Speaker 5: Oh my guard, and then like all his wheels started
- 22:22Speaker 5: to turning.
- 22:24Speaker 1: But that's that's a god story, bro. You can't make
- 22:25Speaker 1: that up.
- 22:26Speaker 3: You said you you want to do something with Kendrick.
- 22:28Speaker 7: When you heard Kendrick shout out La Craye and d
- 22:30Speaker 7: want did that feel like you was getting closer?
- 22:36Speaker 1: Like he definitely watched it, like if you know, do
- 22:39Speaker 1: you want to Craze?
- 22:39Speaker 5: I know you heard one of my songs came down,
- 22:41Speaker 5: I know it and then me and crazed up the
- 22:43Speaker 5: Collade project.
- 22:44Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, like it. It's amount of time
- 22:47Speaker 1: at a time.
- 22:48Speaker 3: Your grandmother baptized you.
- 22:50Speaker 7: No, oh okay, I thought you had a lyrically said,
- 22:52Speaker 7: granny took me to the ocean, put me underneath the
- 22:53Speaker 7: tie crazy.
- 22:54Speaker 5: That was cray Craig Craze. Grandma baptized them on a
- 22:59Speaker 5: ba in San Diego.
- 23:02Speaker 7: Yeah, but he said this on the collab album Yeah,
- 23:05Speaker 7: on the Method Got You.
- 23:08Speaker 2: That was Lacrey, nobody else like to read my own. Yeah.
- 23:20Speaker 7: Now, do you see yourself as more of a pastor
- 23:23Speaker 7: with a beat or an artist who just happens to preach?
- 23:28Speaker 3: That was my question.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
- 23:31Speaker 5: I don't consider myself a pastor with a beat. A
- 23:34Speaker 5: pastor is a heavy title. A pastor or somebody like
- 23:38Speaker 5: you shepherd a flock like you're there, like like checking
- 23:41Speaker 5: in on people and walking them through, you know, life,
- 23:44Speaker 5: which I do. I guess I pastor a few people
- 23:47Speaker 5: on my team, right, but pastoring in clonation, that's that's
- 23:51Speaker 5: a lot.
- 23:51Speaker 1: That's a lot to do.
- 23:52Speaker 5: So I consider myself a man of God, uh with
- 23:56Speaker 5: with slapping beats, you know what I'm saying, telling my
- 23:58Speaker 5: story and reaching the word.
- 24:00Speaker 8: So it's crazy because I consider I don't consider you're
- 24:03Speaker 8: a pastor. But I feel like when artists make music
- 24:05Speaker 8: that is in the gospel realm, you are. You have
- 24:09Speaker 8: followers the same way a pastor would. It's just a
- 24:11Speaker 8: different type of church.
- 24:12Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah for sure. For so, you know, it's crazy.
- 24:15Speaker 5: Before this, I was actually a youth pastor in a
- 24:17Speaker 5: Bay Area and so I really really started to get
- 24:21Speaker 5: into like this kind of music when I was in
- 24:24Speaker 5: a church, just trying to turn the youth up, you
- 24:26Speaker 5: know what I mean. But now I just do it
- 24:28Speaker 5: just for the rest.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Of the world.
- 24:30Speaker 5: But I'm doing the same thing I was doing before,
- 24:32Speaker 5: it on a larger scale. So in a way, you're
- 24:34Speaker 5: definitely correct.
- 24:35Speaker 3: So do you call other hip hop secular music? No? Okay,
- 24:39Speaker 3: what do you call it?
- 24:40Speaker 1: I don't.
- 24:40Speaker 5: I mean when I'm talking to like my Christian audience,
- 24:43Speaker 5: I do, because that's what they understand. But typically I
- 24:45Speaker 5: say mainstream or general market artists. I don't want to
- 24:49Speaker 5: like alien aid and put that title on them, like
- 24:51Speaker 5: cause secular means without God, and a lot of these
- 24:54Speaker 5: artists aren't without God. They have them, they just have
- 24:57Speaker 5: a different art form expression.
- 24:59Speaker 7: So how do you draw from mainstream hip hop and
- 25:02Speaker 7: culture while still turning it into something that's like holy
- 25:05Speaker 7: and redemptive? M M.
- 25:08Speaker 5: I mean I'm within it, you know what I'm saying.
- 25:12Speaker 5: I'm within the mainstream culture now and I'm also within
- 25:15Speaker 5: the church.
- 25:16Speaker 1: And so when I'm making.
- 25:17Speaker 5: Music, you get the best of both worlds without me,
- 25:21Speaker 5: without me compromising either, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 25:24Speaker 5: when you hear my music, it's on that level that
- 25:27Speaker 5: you're here on the radio, and it's also something that
- 25:29Speaker 5: the church could appreciate and a slap like I'm not
- 25:34Speaker 5: breaking the I guess the rules of the church or
- 25:36Speaker 5: disrespecting the Bible. I'm honoring the Bible and making stuff
- 25:39Speaker 5: good enough to hear.
- 25:40Speaker 4: On a global level, you feel pressure at all, you
- 25:42Speaker 4: know because a lot of people I'm sure follow you,
- 25:45Speaker 4: listen to you because they feel like your story is
- 25:48Speaker 4: closer to theirs, right, they came from a certain place,
- 25:51Speaker 4: they did a certain thing, and you know, people make mistakes.
- 25:53Speaker 3: But then when people.
- 25:54Speaker 4: Look at the church sometimes they feel like a pastor
- 25:57Speaker 4: acts like they're holier than that and what they should do.
- 26:00Speaker 4: And then you know when they pull a curtain back,
- 26:02Speaker 4: it's like this passage is cheating on this one or
- 26:04Speaker 4: this passages did this this pass it of that. So
- 26:06Speaker 4: does that give you any way of like any pressure
- 26:09Speaker 4: with what you do in life outside of the music, personal,
- 26:12Speaker 4: the way you walk.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Et cetera.
- 26:14Speaker 5: I mean, with with the platform comes pressure for sure,
- 26:19Speaker 5: And I definitely don't want to be the next person
- 26:23Speaker 5: to temper somebody's faith by a certain mistake that I
- 26:25Speaker 5: could fall into. But I mean, you know, we all
- 26:29Speaker 5: have temptations, and I got the same mound tentations as
- 26:33Speaker 5: any anybody else with a platform or anybody else period.
- 26:36Speaker 5: But what keeps me, what keeps me grounded with the
- 26:39Speaker 5: right perspective, is having the right ones around me with safeguards.
- 26:42Speaker 5: Like my tour manager has my hotel key, all my
- 26:46Speaker 5: I remember. My team has the passwords of my phone,
- 26:48Speaker 5: Like my team has my social media loginst like they
- 26:52Speaker 5: know what's happening, they know what's up, because I don't
- 26:54Speaker 5: want to fall into that. So there is pressure, but
- 26:57Speaker 5: I think it's healthy pressure.
- 27:00Speaker 3: The first Christian act to be booked there rolling.
- 27:01Speaker 5: Out for show for show, So let me let me,
- 27:04Speaker 5: let me give the context to it. So there was
- 27:06Speaker 5: a Christian rap set in Miami before my set, but
- 27:12Speaker 5: but that set was more like Sunday morning.
- 27:16Speaker 1: DJ.
- 27:18Speaker 5: I don't know why I'm drawing a blank. He's the
- 27:20Speaker 5: fifth of these everyone allowed shout out to you bro.
- 27:22Speaker 5: He books like eight Christian rappers to come out during
- 27:25Speaker 5: his set. So that happened, but as official, like I'm
- 27:28Speaker 5: going rolling, I'm going to book a Christian artist for
- 27:31Speaker 5: a full set. Yes, in Los Angeles, California in March.
- 27:35Speaker 5: That thing went crazy?
- 27:37Speaker 8: Is the Dji Venom five venoms?
- 27:41Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to five venoms?
- 27:42Speaker 3: Man, what role do you think Christian rap? It's my
- 27:44Speaker 3: last lues rolled.
- 27:45Speaker 7: I think Christian rap plays and bringing I guess the
- 27:50Speaker 7: church to the streets.
- 27:52Speaker 3: Are are you trying to bring the streets to the church?
- 27:54Speaker 3: Like what yo? I don't want to say all the
- 27:58Speaker 3: christ trap particular.
- 27:59Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, by I think my music takes
- 28:04Speaker 5: the church to the block with the intention of bringing
- 28:07Speaker 5: the block to the church.
- 28:09Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Like like when you hear.
- 28:12Speaker 5: My music, man, I'll be I'll be driving around through
- 28:15Speaker 5: La through the Bay, I'll be hearing my stuff through
- 28:17Speaker 5: every neighborhood.
- 28:18Speaker 1: Bro like slapping in the truck God then stocking Richmond.
- 28:23Speaker 5: Oh, like it's reaching them, but with the intention for
- 28:26Speaker 5: them to get closer to God.
- 28:28Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So that's what it is
- 28:30Speaker 1: for us.
- 28:30Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's almost impossible for you to be
- 28:33Speaker 7: judgment to it because because of.
- 28:34Speaker 3: How you got brought to God. Yeah, smoking that weed,
- 28:39Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
- 28:39Speaker 5: For sure, Like I get it, like I understand people struggles,
- 28:43Speaker 5: people's stories like I lived it, and a lot of
- 28:45Speaker 5: my family is still living it.
- 28:47Speaker 3: You know.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I'm still in it in a lot of ways.
- 28:49Speaker 5: And so they love God and love people, not just people.
- 28:52Speaker 3: We appreciate you for joining us. What you want to
- 28:54Speaker 3: play off the album The method Man?
- 28:56Speaker 5: All right, let's play The method Man featuring E forty
- 28:58Speaker 5: and A cray Man from the West to the World.
- 29:00Speaker 1: Let's get it.
- 29:01Speaker 3: And the album is out today. The album is out right.
- 29:03Speaker 1: Now, right now. The album VA do.
- 29:12Speaker 5: That's right.
- 29:13Speaker 3: It's Miles Mintic. What does that mean anyway?
- 29:16Speaker 5: Yeah, via the rosa, it translates to the pathway or
- 29:19Speaker 5: the sorrowful road. It's literally the road that Jesus walked
- 29:21Speaker 5: on when he's carrying his cross. I am ethnically ambiguous,
- 29:29Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Shout out to my Messicans.
- 29:30Speaker 5: But I'm not mesking. I'm half black, half white.
- 29:33Speaker 3: You don't say Haesus Christ just because.
- 29:35Speaker 1: Hazeus Crystal, I do.
- 29:38Speaker 3: I do?
- 29:39Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we got we got Hazu's Cristalle hats and
- 29:42Speaker 5: all of that popping off.
- 29:43Speaker 4: But yeah, dope, I just realize that's Jesus testimony.
- 29:48Speaker 1: But you see that Jesus on the cross.
- 29:53Speaker 3: That's all.
- 29:53Speaker 1: Look, look, give me your mail in the address.
- 29:55Speaker 5: IM gonna send you all pack somewhere people christ Like
- 29:59Speaker 5: Collection dot com and we gotta pop.
- 30:02Speaker 1: Up today in San Francisco.
- 30:03Speaker 4: Let's get it all right, Miles Midtic, It's the Breakfast Club.
- 30:07Speaker 4: Good morning, ye hold.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Up every day I wake, click your ass up the
- 30:12Speaker 2: Breakfast Club.
- 30:13Speaker 3: You'll finish for y'all. Done,