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The Kenny Report | 18 June · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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  Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Ross Ship, baby ship, ship that oil. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: joining me tonight. What lineup Pauline Hansen just sent to Namba,
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  Speaker 1: jimper Price and Alexander Downer on immigration, indigenous disadvantage, budget backflips,
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  Speaker 1: war and peace in the Middle East and plenty more
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  Speaker 1: the energy debate. Is it time to finally pull the
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  Speaker 1: pin on Malcolm Turnbull's snowy two point zero disaster in
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  Speaker 1: Sport with ROBO's state of origin and the socceros of course,
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  Speaker 1: and the National cabinet with Tim and Mark As the
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  Speaker 1: public calls time on the ABC, let's get cracking now.
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  Speaker 1: While people toiled away at work today, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: of this country, Anthony Albanezi, called a major media conference
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  Speaker 1: with his Treasurer Jim Chalmers. Here they were, these two
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  Speaker 1: men whose whole lives have been spent in the employer
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  Speaker 1: of the labor movement and the taxpayer, two blokes whose
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  Speaker 1: lives have been all about politics. Here they were, thirty
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  Speaker 1: seven days after delivering their latest national budget, still trying
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  Speaker 1: to justify their budget of broken promises, their budget of
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  Speaker 1: tax grabs and exposed pre election lies. It's still a
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  Speaker 1: big problem more than five weeks on, and the way
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  Speaker 1: they decided to address it today reminded me actually of
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  Speaker 1: the great Margaret Thatcher, inasmuch as these blokes are not
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  Speaker 1: a patch on the iron lady.
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  Speaker 3: To those waiting with bated breath for that favorite media catchphrase,
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  Speaker 3: the U turn, I have only one thing to say,
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  Speaker 3: You turn if you want to. The lead is not
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  Speaker 3: for turning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Thatcher was not for turning. But Albo and Charmers are.
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  Speaker 1: There is no promise they will not break, and no
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  Speaker 1: long held policy they will not abandon if they can
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  Speaker 1: see a political advantage. So today they backflipped and U
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  Speaker 1: turned on the very policies they've just spent thirty seven
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  Speaker 1: days telling us our essential reforms for the country.
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  Speaker 4: We are making changes that are important, and what we're
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  Speaker 4: doing is giving the implementation details as we flagged on
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  Speaker 4: budget night.
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  Speaker 1: They're desperate. Backflip means a key exemption from higher capital
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  Speaker 1: gains tax will now go to all businesses up to
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  Speaker 1: five times bigger than the original plan, and a minimum
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  Speaker 1: tax on some discretionary trust that's been described as a
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  Speaker 1: death tax has been scrapped, but still the the broken
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  Speaker 1: promises of restricting negative gearing and increasing capital gains tax
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  Speaker 1: remain so the Prime Minister will continue to be framed
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  Speaker 1: as a liar.
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  Speaker 5: On that have you made it easier for to buy
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  Speaker 5: the liar slogan to stick give? And you have broken
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  Speaker 5: clear election promises despite bowings for a prime minister who
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  Speaker 5: keeps his work.
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  Speaker 1: No, clearly he doesn't like this, but the evident the
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  Speaker 1: evidence on this matter is open and shut and it
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  Speaker 1: was run nationwide in a one nation ad during last
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  Speaker 1: night's State of Origin broadcast.
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  Speaker 4: Always been a man of my word, or we have
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  Speaker 4: no plans to change negative gearing, or we've changed our position.
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  Speaker 1: I stepped back one step.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't fall off the stage.
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  Speaker 4: The reception was incredibly positive and not a single person
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  Speaker 4: Heckle reducing power prices by.
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  Speaker 1: Two hundred and seventy five dollars. That's a throughout life.
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  Speaker 6: My word is my bond.
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  Speaker 1: The Prime Minister, of course, has claimed to be above
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  Speaker 1: all this sort of name calling.
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  Speaker 7: How do you defeat yourself against a central allegation?
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  Speaker 4: I talk about what I'm doing to deliver for Australians
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  Speaker 4: and don't engage in the sort of personalized politics that
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  Speaker 4: we are seeing.
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  Speaker 1: But some of us are old enough to remember the
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  Speaker 1: Labor Party using similar language and similar tactics against Scott Morrison.
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  Speaker 8: Scomo, you're the liar from the Shire if you agree,
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  Speaker 8: change starts here, So.
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  Speaker 1: There we go. Labor is not wholier than thou, as
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  Speaker 1: Elbow tries to suggest. Rather, the PM has given us
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  Speaker 1: a budget backflip that obviously confirms the budget mess that
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  Speaker 1: won't do much to clear up the community and business
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  Speaker 1: anxiety which the Prime Minister keeps telling us is being
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  Speaker 1: whipped up by the media if.
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  Speaker 4: You look at polling, the free advertising on the front
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  Speaker 4: page of various newspapers assist as well the rise of
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  Speaker 4: some of the issues which are there. But I'll continue
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  Speaker 4: to engage. I haven't said that, so don't try to misinterpret.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't said that at all. What I'm concerned about
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  Speaker 4: isn't what happens on a twenty four hour media cycle,
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  Speaker 4: let alone on the cycle we're in, which is often
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  Speaker 4: minute by minute or hour by hour.
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  Speaker 1: All evidence to the contrary, of course, because Albow and
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  Speaker 1: Labor have just backflipped, and you turned on key budget
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  Speaker 1: measures precisely as a reaction to political pressure and the
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  Speaker 1: political news cycle, and I don't think it'll be enough
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  Speaker 1: to remove the steps of this budget. Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 1: signed the Memorandum of Understanding with Iran that will open
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  Speaker 1: the Strait of Humus and end hostilities between the US
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  Speaker 1: and Iran. There will be sixty days of negotiations. Frozen
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  Speaker 1: funds will be released to Iran. There will be reconstruction
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  Speaker 1: funding for Iran as well, and no guarantees when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to nuclear weapons and Iran's terrorist proxies in the region.
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  Speaker 1: In short, the agreement falls a long way short of
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  Speaker 1: what Trump promised when he addressed the world in February
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  Speaker 1: announcing the US and Israeli assault on Iran.
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  Speaker 9: Our objective is to defend the American people by eliminating
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  Speaker 9: eminent threats from the Iranian regime. We are going to
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  Speaker 9: destroy their missiles and raise their missile industry to the ground.
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  Speaker 9: It will be totally again obliterated. We're going to annihilate
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  Speaker 9: their navy. We are going to ensure that the region's
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  Speaker 9: terrorist proxies can no longer destabilize the region or the
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  Speaker 9: world and attack our forces, and no longer used their
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  Speaker 9: IEDs or roadside bombs as they are sometimes called to,
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  Speaker 9: So gravely wound and kill thousands and thousands of people,
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  Speaker 9: including many Americans, and we will ensure that Iranda is
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  Speaker 9: not obtained a nuclear weapon. It's a very simple message.
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  Speaker 9: They will never have a nuclear weapon.
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  Speaker 1: Now. There's no doubt the Iranian leadership and much of
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  Speaker 1: its military capability and infrastructure have been severely depleted, but
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  Speaker 1: the Islamist regime is still in place. Its proxies like
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  Speaker 1: Hezbollah and Hamas are still attacking Israel, and Iran still
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  Speaker 1: has possession of highly enriched uranium that could be used
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  Speaker 1: in weapons programs. So four months of war has caused
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  Speaker 1: global energy and economic uncertainty, but has not dramatically changed
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  Speaker 1: the strategic equation.
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  Speaker 10: I let him know. I said, look, if you don't
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  Speaker 10: adhere to the agreement, I don't want to do that,
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  Speaker 10: but we're going to bomb the hell out of you.
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  Speaker 10: And I don't think that they're going to veer from
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  Speaker 10: the agreement. What else am I going to do. I'm
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  Speaker 10: i going to say, I'm going to take you to court.
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  Speaker 10: Let me take you to court, let me sue you. No,
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  Speaker 10: we're going to bomb the hell out of them if
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  Speaker 10: they valate the agreement.
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  Speaker 1: As it stands, this is a major failure for Trump's
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  Speaker 1: foreign policy. I supported his action against Iran because this
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  Speaker 1: is a threat to the Western world and a threat
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  Speaker 1: that the Western world needs to deal with once and
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  Speaker 1: for all. But like previous presidents, now Trump has failed
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  Speaker 1: to follow through and complete the task. This leaves Israel
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  Speaker 1: exposed and the region awaiting Iran's next moves. We've got
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  Speaker 1: every right to be angry about the lack of support
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  Speaker 1: the US and Israel got from the UK, from European nations,
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  Speaker 1: and from our own country. All these natural allies of
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  Speaker 1: the US and Israel did very little to help and
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  Speaker 1: only aided the Iranian propaganda push. But then Trump did
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  Speaker 1: too little, too late to bring any allies on board.
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  Speaker 1: So sure, Iran is less of a threat now than
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  Speaker 1: it was a year ago. So that's something. The Iranian
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  Speaker 1: people still live under the yoke of oppression, and lasting
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  Speaker 1: peace in the Middle East can't even be imagined as
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  Speaker 1: long as the world has to wait and see what
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  Speaker 1: the Islamist regime in Tehran plans to do once it
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  Speaker 1: gets back on its feet. The latest population figures from
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  Speaker 1: the Bureau of Statistics revealed that as of the end
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  Speaker 1: of last year, there were almost twenty eight million of
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  Speaker 1: US The official number was twenty seven million, eight hundred thousand,
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  Speaker 1: but then it's likely topping twenty eight million already because
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  Speaker 1: our population grew the previous year by four hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twelve thousand people. Just over one hundred thousand of those
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  Speaker 1: came from natural growth. So that's still despite the promises
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  Speaker 1: of reduced immigration, that's still more than three hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: people coming from net overseas migration. That's down a tad,
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  Speaker 1: but it's still historically high, more than three hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: extra arrivals annually. That's twice the population of Darwin coming
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  Speaker 1: into this country each year, or more than the population
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  Speaker 1: of Hobart every year. Or you could think about it
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  Speaker 1: this way, a city the size of Adelaide added every
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  Speaker 1: four years or so. Little wonder The immigration debate continues,
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  Speaker 1: with Angus Taylor rejecting Pauline Hanson's call for an Australian monoculture.
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  Speaker 11: Migration in this country has been too high and the
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  Speaker 11: standards have been too low, and that must change. But
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  Speaker 11: what we favor is a values based immigration policy, and
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  Speaker 11: that is regardless of race or religion or where they
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  Speaker 11: come from.
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  Speaker 12: If she wants to judge people.
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  Speaker 11: Based on the color of their skin or their race.
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  Speaker 11: One Nation needs to explain.
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  Speaker 1: That all this comes after Pauline Hanson's appearance at the
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  Speaker 1: National Press Club yesterday. It was marred by the Get
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  Speaker 1: Up stunt, which is now being investigated by the Australian
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  Speaker 1: Federal Police. The Press Club announced today that it had
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  Speaker 1: rejected an application for membership by Getup's media director David Scheraz,
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  Speaker 1: who was at the event yesterday and left after the
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  Speaker 1: post of stunt. Hans had headed north today, joining a
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  Speaker 1: News Corp regional event in Townsville, where the country's richest
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  Speaker 1: woman urged the One Nation leader to tackle government waste
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  Speaker 1: and bureaucracies.
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  Speaker 13: In Canberra, you might remember Elon Musk was given a
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  Speaker 13: big chainsaw to try and cut government tape and bureaucracies.
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  Speaker 13: Over in America. We need an orange bulldozer. Let's hear
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  Speaker 13: the noise, gir, I don't hear that noise. Let's hear
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  Speaker 13: a bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Girl, Pauline and the bulldozer. Hey, Trumpy and tactics unlikely
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  Speaker 1: to help Pauline Hanson just at the moment. But back
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  Speaker 1: to yesterday's speech and on this program last night, One
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  Speaker 1: Nation MP Barnaby Joyce expressed alarm over the security failure
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  Speaker 1: at the Press Club, wondering aloud whether somebody could actually
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  Speaker 1: have planted a bomb at such an event. So when
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  Speaker 1: I caught up with Pauline Hanson today, I began by
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  Speaker 1: asking whether she shared those security concerns.
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  Speaker 14: Yes, I am. That was put up, so someone had
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  Speaker 14: access to the club, they had time to put it up,
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  Speaker 14: so therefore I am concerned about that, Chris. It could
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  Speaker 14: have been worse than that. You know, you had many
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  Speaker 14: other people in the room. It was a stunt what
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  Speaker 14: they did, but it didn't stop me delivering my message
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  Speaker 14: to the Australian people. But it is of concern.
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  Speaker 1: Is monoculture too strong a term?
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  Speaker 2: Though?
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  Speaker 1: Isn't Angus Taylor right to say we accept people of
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  Speaker 1: all ethnic backgrounds and cultures as long as they embrace
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  Speaker 1: our values.
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  Speaker 14: Well what's the difference with it if they're going to
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  Speaker 14: race our values. You know, people are actually coming here
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  Speaker 14: to be Australian, isn't it the Australian culture we are?
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  Speaker 14: Multi racial? Multiculturalism is failing us, Chris. And if people
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  Speaker 14: are going to be treated totally different on their cultural background,
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  Speaker 14: well that's not going to work either. We're seeing the
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  Speaker 14: division that's happened in other countries around the world. So
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  Speaker 14: I think being monoculture is the way for us to
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  Speaker 14: move forward. Japan has no problem with it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but Pauline, I think monoculture is seen as too
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  Speaker 1: extreme a term. It suggests we don't allow for variations
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  Speaker 1: in this country which are obvious around the country. When
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  Speaker 1: you look at Indians, Italians, Sikhs, Chinese, Middle Eastern people,
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  Speaker 1: they're all expressing some elements of their culture while embracing
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  Speaker 1: Australian values.
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  Speaker 12: Yeah. If you talk to a lot of.
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  Speaker 14: These people also from different cultural backgrounds as I have,
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  Speaker 14: they said, we are Australians. We are so proud to
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  Speaker 14: be here. It's not just about the culture of person.
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  Speaker 14: It's about the culture of the nation. Who we are,
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  Speaker 14: our traditions, our own cultures, our language, our dress, our laws.
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  Speaker 14: These are all monoculture. Press. You can't have different laws.
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  Speaker 14: We don't have multicultural laws, do we We have a
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  Speaker 14: monocultural law where everyone is treated the same under the
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  Speaker 14: one law. So if people have chosen to come to Australia,
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  Speaker 14: don't know what they're doing. They say they want to
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  Speaker 14: become on board to be Australian. I think that's very important.
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  Speaker 14: I think that Angus Taylor to actually criticize this. I
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  Speaker 14: think he's actually sitting on the fence. He can't make
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  Speaker 14: a decision about this. Are you Australian or you're not Australian.
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  Speaker 14: Do you want to just come here and take for
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  Speaker 14: benefit you know, granted what this country offers you, but
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  Speaker 14: you don't.
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  Speaker 11: Want to give you you know, your.
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  Speaker 14: Love to this nation.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson, are you worried that one nation's success will
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  Speaker 1: just cause more pain for the coalition in state and
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  Speaker 1: federal elections, change the mix of seats on the center right,
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  Speaker 1: but just help keep labor in power.
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  Speaker 14: That's ridiculous because that's the only argument that they have got,
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  Speaker 14: is that it's all about them, that they're going to
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  Speaker 14: lose their seats, their positions. They are responsible also for
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  Speaker 14: the state of the country.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 14: Climate change started under the Howard government. He started the
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  Speaker 14: carbon emission scheme, so a lot of these issues started
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  Speaker 14: way back then with the coalition. A lot of things
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  Speaker 14: I've had to pull them back. They would never have
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  Speaker 14: addressed immigration if it wasn't for one nation. They would
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  Speaker 14: never have dressed net zero if it wasn't for one nation.
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  Speaker 14: So I'm not going to stand back and say, oh listen,
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  Speaker 14: don't worry about it. I'm not going to upset you
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  Speaker 14: a little cartel. Just you and the Labor Party. The
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  Speaker 14: Australian people have their say. I'm putting up my policies
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  Speaker 14: what I want to do for the country. I want
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  Speaker 14: to drive this nation forward, to get back prosperity, give
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  Speaker 14: the future generations some hope for where they're going to
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  Speaker 14: go in their life. So if the Libs don't want
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  Speaker 14: to work with me, it's just ridiculous to use this
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  Speaker 14: argument that I'm going to destroy and head it back
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  Speaker 14: to Labor. That's a load of rubbish.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in your speech yesterday you mentioned the failure of
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  Speaker 1: indigenous policy in this country, billions of dollars spent, with
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  Speaker 1: so many problems still apparent, the gap not being closed.
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  Speaker 1: How would you tackle the obvious social problems of crime
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  Speaker 1: and dysfunction in remote Aboriginal communities and town camps in
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  Speaker 1: places like Alice Springs.
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  Speaker 14: It is christ and it's not about the amount of money.
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  Speaker 14: We poured so much money into it. Yes, there's no
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  Speaker 14: clothes in the gaps, Yes, your education, Yes, you're housing. Yes,
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  Speaker 14: also the health issues. They're still on the ramp, but
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  Speaker 14: they're actually going up and up and up. I spoke
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  Speaker 14: to an Indigenous woman to come up to spect me.
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  Speaker 14: She said, we are not getting the money. There is
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  Speaker 14: so much corruption from these organizations that are just wasting
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  Speaker 14: the money. It's not getting to grassroots. That's where you start, Chris,
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  Speaker 14: you have a complete audit of the Aboriginal industry where
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  Speaker 14: the money is gone. I want accountability. I want transparency,
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  Speaker 14: and yet neither the Labor Party or the Coalition have
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  Speaker 14: been strong enough to make that happen. There has to
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  Speaker 14: be accountability now. These remote communities, you know, they talk
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  Speaker 14: about they want their cultural the rest of it. How
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  Speaker 14: often do we go out there and support those people
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  Speaker 14: on pastorals? Gracious, those families that are living in remote areas,
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  Speaker 14: do they get the assistance that these Aboriginal communities get. No,
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  Speaker 14: they don't. It's their choice to leave in those areas.
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  Speaker 14: You know, maybe we need to have a look at
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  Speaker 14: why be so remote. I understand the cultural background to it,
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  Speaker 14: but we're not giving these people a helping hand and
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  Speaker 14: moving forward and getting them jobs, a decent lifestyle, employment
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  Speaker 14: and to move forward. With education.
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  Speaker 12: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Pauline, you had a bit of a go at Canberra
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  Speaker 1: yesterday at the National Press Club. You said you'd try
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  Speaker 1: and avoid the place as much as possible. Are you
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  Speaker 1: more at home today in Townsville?
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  Speaker 14: I love it up here. I am more at home
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  Speaker 14: and Queensland Chris By all means, but Camera is a
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  Speaker 14: necessary evil for me. And although I met so many people,
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  Speaker 14: all those com car drivers, security guards and everyone like that,
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  Speaker 14: they're beautiful people. They say they love Canberra. Well that's fine.
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  Speaker 14: I won't take up any extra housing in the capital city.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Pauline Hanson. Thanks Cam a necessary evil. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in Canberra don't like
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  Speaker 1: the nation's capital being spoken about in those terms. But
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  Speaker 1: in somewhere someone who used to travel there are a
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  Speaker 1: lot for work.
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  Speaker 12: I know the feeling.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the Red Center now and catch up
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  Speaker 1: with the Shadow Minister for Small Business Center Namba jimper
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  Speaker 1: Price in Ala Springs. Thanks for joining us, Jacinta. I'm
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  Speaker 1: keen to get your reaction to Anthony Alberesi and Jim
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  Speaker 1: Charmer's budget backflip? Is that enough for small business and
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  Speaker 1: bigger businesses in this country.
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  Speaker 15: Oh look, Chris, this carve out, this proposed these proposed
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  Speaker 15: new CGT carve outs, basically an admission by this labor
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  Speaker 15: government that they got their policy wrong from the get go.
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  Speaker 15: And look, ozzies can't be taken for fools. They know
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  Speaker 15: a turd when it's being rolled in glitter, it doesn't
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  Speaker 15: go far enough. Obviously they should be axing their toxic
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  Speaker 15: taxes all together, which is absolutely what we aim to
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  Speaker 15: do if we're successful at the next election.
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  Speaker 12: I know that, you.
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  Speaker 15: Know, this has been such a topic for the businesses
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  Speaker 15: that I've been speaking to right around the country, for
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  Speaker 15: those right here in my own hometown of Alla Springs
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  Speaker 15: as well. Is that the one they're sick of, the uncertainty,
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  Speaker 15: not knowing what this government is going to thrust upon
• 20:21
  Speaker 15: them next. They lied, they didn't bring this issue to
• 20:25
  Speaker 15: the last federal election. Therefore the small businesses saying, okay,
• 20:29
  Speaker 15: they're doing a backflip, but we can't trust the thing
• 20:33
  Speaker 15: that this government says, that this Prime Minister says, when
• 20:36
  Speaker 15: everything's been built on lies to begin with. So look,
• 20:41
  Speaker 15: there's still a level of uncertainty because it's like, okay,
• 20:44
  Speaker 15: so who do these next? You know, carve outs relate
• 20:49
  Speaker 15: to what businesses can you know, you know can then
• 20:54
  Speaker 15: apply for this. There's just a continuation of uncertainty in
• 20:58
  Speaker 15: the climate that is all already really struggling for small businesses,
• 21:03
  Speaker 15: that struggling with the cost of everything. But it's the
• 21:06
  Speaker 15: uncertainty that is killing them. It's stopping them from investing,
• 21:09
  Speaker 15: it's stopping them from employing more people, it's stopping them
• 21:12
  Speaker 15: from taking on more apprentices and many have said I
• 21:17
  Speaker 15: think I feel like we're just keeping our head above water,
• 21:21
  Speaker 15: like we could go under at any time, and that
• 21:23
  Speaker 15: we're either prepared to wrap up, retire now or take
• 21:28
  Speaker 15: their business off shore.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And that's not what we want.
• 21:31
  Speaker 15: We want them to continue to support our communities, to
• 21:35
  Speaker 15: support our economy. I mean, after all, there are two
• 21:38
  Speaker 15: point five million small businesses around this country that employ
• 21:42
  Speaker 15: over five million Australians and contribute to a third of
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: our nation's GST.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to visualize a t roll in glitter.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: But what you say about the broken promises here is clear.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: There's still broken promises on negative gearing and capital gains
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: at tax. But it is an improvement, isn't it, Especially
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: from a small and medium business point of view, where
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: the capital gains tax carve out was going to apply
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to businesses with a turnover of up to two million
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: dollars a year. Now it's going to go to ten
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: million dollars a year, so there are many more businesses
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: who will escape the extra tax. Yeah.
• 22:17
  Speaker 15: Look, I mean there's that element, But the other side
• 22:20
  Speaker 15: of that element is the fact that, well, why would
• 22:23
  Speaker 15: a small business want to grow and prosper and diversify
• 22:27
  Speaker 15: and then go on to become a medium business. Again,
• 22:31
  Speaker 15: it's killing off aspiration. It's stopping those businesses from wanting
• 22:35
  Speaker 15: to become more than what they currently are. I suppose
• 22:39
  Speaker 15: it's it's like, why would you want to earn more
• 22:42
  Speaker 15: money and then get pushed up into a higher income bracket.
• 22:45
  Speaker 15: It's all of those sorts of things at once. They
• 22:48
  Speaker 15: just need to get rid of it all together.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Now, Jacinta, you would have been interested in Pauline Hanson's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: performance at the National Press Club, but yesterday refusing to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: give a welcome to country and also talking about the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: need for a monoculture in Australia. Do you support that concept?
• 23:05
  Speaker 12: Oh?
• 23:05
  Speaker 15: Look, you know, when I'm speaking to audiences around the country,
• 23:10
  Speaker 15: I've always said that I'd like to acknowledge and pay
• 23:14
  Speaker 15: my respects to all proud Australians.
• 23:17
  Speaker 16: In the room.
• 23:18
  Speaker 15: I mean, that's just that's just a given, I suppose,
• 23:21
  Speaker 15: and that's a position that I've always held and something
• 23:25
  Speaker 15: that I'm very passionate about, and I've always stated, I
• 23:27
  Speaker 15: suppose that I'm very passionate about the fact that we
• 23:30
  Speaker 15: are all Australians under one flag, and that we should
• 23:33
  Speaker 15: be proud of the Australian culture that we do have,
• 23:37
  Speaker 15: which is derived from all of us coming together, whether
• 23:40
  Speaker 15: it's you know, a first Australians, to those settlers who
• 23:44
  Speaker 15: came the convict class, to the migrant community. I mean,
• 23:48
  Speaker 15: within my own family, I have all of those elements
• 23:51
  Speaker 15: which I'm extremely proud of and something that I've always
• 23:54
  Speaker 15: said we should celebrate in this country and teach our
• 23:56
  Speaker 15: children to be proud of and also celebrate in our country.
• 24:01
  Speaker 15: I think it's something that we should get behind.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So is that a monoculture.
• 24:07
  Speaker 15: I suppose for me, it's the Australian culture. It's understanding
• 24:11
  Speaker 15: that we do have an Australian culture that our history,
• 24:14
  Speaker 15: I suppose hasn't been taught to its fullest history in
• 24:19
  Speaker 15: the round, I think and education is really important for
• 24:22
  Speaker 15: our children to take the good, the bad, the ugly.
• 24:24
  Speaker 15: But what we've seen in recent times is our history
• 24:27
  Speaker 15: being weaponized by the activist class and news against us
• 24:31
  Speaker 15: and for our children to feel like they should be
• 24:33
  Speaker 15: ashamed to call themselves Australian. It's been about dividing our
• 24:37
  Speaker 15: children into different groups, you know, Indigenous, non Indigenous, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 15: teaching our non indigenous kids of you know, Anglo Celtic
• 24:45
  Speaker 15: heritage in this country that they should be ashamed of.
• 24:47
  Speaker 15: That these are all the sorts of things that I
• 24:50
  Speaker 15: have railed against and that I truly believe that we
• 24:53
  Speaker 15: need to actually value our Australian culture here in Australia,
• 24:57
  Speaker 15: which is a celebration of all of our cl that
• 25:00
  Speaker 15: have come together.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well expressed, and I think a lot of people
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: would understand and agree with you. I suppose what I'm
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: interested in those is just whether or not that's very
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: similar to Pauline Hanson's view. Do you think you're on
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the same page on these issues.
• 25:13
  Speaker 15: Look, these are my views and these are the views
• 25:16
  Speaker 15: that I've always held, and Pauline has obviously expressed her
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: views in her way in that manner, I suppose my
• 25:22
  Speaker 15: views come from having the lived experience of being someone
• 25:26
  Speaker 15: who's got an Aboriginal mother, a wide Australian father, children
• 25:30
  Speaker 15: who've got combined heritage within them. You know my husband,
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: who is also a recent Australian and a very proud Scozzy,
• 25:38
  Speaker 15: but a migrant in his own right, who's made this
• 25:41
  Speaker 15: country his own, and he's very passionate about it, which
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: I suppose is why he was out there during the
• 25:46
  Speaker 15: Voice campaign fighting alongside other Australians so we wouldn't divide
• 25:50
  Speaker 15: our nation along the lines of race within our constitution.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: He sure is passionate, Ossie, even though he's difficult to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: understand sometimes through that Scottish excit. I hope to catch
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: up with him again soon.
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: Thanks for joining us.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, just in the nevergenter price there in
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Alice Springs. Let's now catch up with Australia's longest serving
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: foreign Minister, Alexander Downer. He joins us from London. Thanks
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: for joining us, Alexander, I'm tipping surely you must be
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: disappointed about this deal that Donald Trump has done with Iran.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: He took such a strong line here with such a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: useful purpose to eliminate real threats in the Middle East,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: yet he seems to have been He seems to have
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: backed down in the face of a lack of support
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: and also all sorts of economic and domestic political pressures.
• 26:42
  Speaker 17: Well, I think we have to wait and see. There
• 26:45
  Speaker 17: are sixty days of further negotiations. Whether that will be
• 26:51
  Speaker 17: extended or not, I don't know, but my guess is
• 26:56
  Speaker 17: there is a lot more to come in this particular saga,
• 27:01
  Speaker 17: possibly at the end of those sixty days, a little
• 27:04
  Speaker 17: bit more fighting. It's hard to be able to put
• 27:10
  Speaker 17: together an inventory of what has happened, though we don't
• 27:14
  Speaker 17: know the extent to which Iran's military capability has been destroyed,
• 27:19
  Speaker 17: but it has certainly been very substantially diminished, and that
• 27:25
  Speaker 17: reduces the threat in particular to Israel, but to other
• 27:28
  Speaker 17: countries in the Middle East. Of Iran, it looks as
• 27:32
  Speaker 17: though they made some arrangement on IAA inspections of their
• 27:39
  Speaker 17: nuclear material, though there's a way to go to get
• 27:43
  Speaker 17: rid of the already enriched material. So I think we
• 27:48
  Speaker 17: just have to wait and see before drawing any hard
• 27:51
  Speaker 17: and fast conclusion.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's important and instructive. As I showed
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: earlier in the program, that Donald Trump is still saying
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: there's the threat of military reaction if this deal is broken. So,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: and as you say, there's sixty days of negotiations are here.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Here's some more of what the presidents had to say.
• 28:09
  Speaker 10: Let's call it the Trump Deal. There's a wall for
• 28:14
  Speaker 10: a nuclear weapon that the nuclear weapon could not get through.
• 28:17
  Speaker 10: Nobody's going to get through it.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: This is the key, isn't it? The nuclear weapons program,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: the enriched uranium that we know Iran has, Because while
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of course there's been no promises regarding the proxies, there's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: no doubt that Hisbalah and Hamas and the hooties have
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: been drastically degraded.
• 28:35
  Speaker 17: Yes, and not only have they been drastically degraded, as
• 28:39
  Speaker 17: you put it, but their Iran's capacity to resupply and
• 28:44
  Speaker 17: support them has also been substantially degraded. The extent to
• 28:49
  Speaker 17: which that has happened is hard to judge. I mean,
• 28:52
  Speaker 17: the Americans say on President Trump in particular, says he's
• 28:57
  Speaker 17: destroyed their air force, destroyed Iran's navy. They've destroyed they
• 29:04
  Speaker 17: clearly have destroyed their anti aircraft missile capability, so they're
• 29:10
  Speaker 17: substantially diminished, and their capacity to support the proxies is
• 29:16
  Speaker 17: substantially diminished. There's an Israeli expression that what they've done
• 29:22
  Speaker 17: is mode the grass. The problem is the grass can
• 29:27
  Speaker 17: grow again unless the regime its solve changes, and whether
• 29:32
  Speaker 17: that will happen or not, time will tell.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Let's just indulge a little bit in the theater of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and have a look at this as he
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: arrived at the G seven in France.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm the.
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: Boss, how are you?
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: He walks in and tells them he's the boss. A
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: bit of a contrast to Joe Biden, who would be
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: walking into a closet or wandering off somewhere.
• 30:03
  Speaker 17: Yes, Donald Trump is substantially about theater.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: He's a great.
• 30:10
  Speaker 17: Performer, there's no doubt about that, very and often very
• 30:15
  Speaker 17: amusing as a personality. So it does demonstrate something about
• 30:21
  Speaker 17: political success, which is there are many reasons for it,
• 30:27
  Speaker 17: but one of them is charisma and personality, and that
• 30:32
  Speaker 17: some people hate Trump's personality, some people love it. But
• 30:36
  Speaker 17: you can't deny he has a lot of personality.
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: He sure does.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: He's the boss. Just brilliant stuff. Thanks for joining us. Alexander.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it, Alexander. Down on the line from London,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: We've got to get to a break. On the other side,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: we're going to ask whether it's time to pull the
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: pin on Malcolm Turnbull's snowy two point zero disaster and
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: expert view from Aiden Morrison. Next, let's go back to
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Labour's Green Dream and the snowy two point zero project,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: one that was started by our own Marlboro man, Malcolm
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Turnbull when he was Prime Minister.
• 31:12
  Speaker 15: I am a nation building prime minister, believe me, and
• 31:15
  Speaker 15: this is a nation building project.
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: These are big dreams in these mountains.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Real courage, a belief in the future, a confidence in Australia.
• 31:28
  Speaker 12: Real courage.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: With your money, the pipe dream was supposed to be
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: completed four years ago. Latest estimates put the cost at
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: forty two billion dollars. That's twenty one times what we
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: were told it was would cost when it was announced
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: by Turnbull. And at the Press club yesterday Pauline Hansen
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: called it out.
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: And what about Malcolm Turnbull's two billion snowy two point
• 31:51
  Speaker 14: zero project. He calls himself a businessman but showed no
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: regard for taxpayers money and it is now for past
• 32:01
  Speaker 14: to reach over forty billion, cancel it, cut out losses.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Aiden Morrison who joins me in the studio.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: He's the energy program director at the Center for Independent Study.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Is good to talk to you again, Aiden. Is Pauline
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Hansen right, even though all that money's been spent, would
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: be be better off just abandoning this project?
• 32:19
  Speaker 12: Yep, she's absolutely right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: I've been looking at it more and more closely since
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: she's thrown down the gauntlet and said that she's willing
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: to cut the losses. I've been trying to assess what
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: the losses are. And it's plainer's day today. There's been
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: a new audit report released. Snowy Hydra themselves don't know
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: what the cost will be.
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: We've learned today. They just do not have a baseline
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: for the schedule.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: The expected productivity gains are not being realized, the incentive
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: structures aren't working, and they just do not have a
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: way of estimating what the cost will be. So when
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: someone tells you there may be seventy percent assuming the
• 32:47
  Speaker 8: budget is fixed and it works to the approved budget,
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: then now it's going to blow out. We just have
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: to say that we are probably less than halfway through
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: this project, and she's she's calling it like it is actually,
• 32:55
  Speaker 8: but we.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Know already that if it was online today at the
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: money spent or red it would increase electricity prices because
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of all those costs that need to be recovered. So
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the further we go, the higher our electricity prices are
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: going to be.
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: Surely, well, it just depends whether as you put that
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: project into the system, whether there's some other cost that
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: comes out, and actually that would not happen. The story
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: we've been told is we can retire all our cold generators.
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: Only a week or so ago, Snowy two point zero
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: released another commission report to show what would happen with
• 33:25
  Speaker 8: and without Snowy, within without col generators, and the answer was,
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: we can't afford to close our coal generators because we
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: hit a price armageddin if we close them all even
• 33:35
  Speaker 8: with Snowy, and it's a double armageddon without Snowy. But
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: there is just no way that we can actually close
• 33:39
  Speaker 8: our cold generators. It just won't happen, and Snowy doesn't
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: change that fact. So it's going to be bad economically
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: even at the current price. And who knows what the
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: price will be.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: With these billions already wasted, we could have built new
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: coal fired power stations, a lot of new gas generators,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: maybe a couple of nuclear power stations.
• 33:57
  Speaker 12: That's exactly right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: So we're talking about twelve billion dollars is what's estimated
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: to be spent middle of this year. I in now
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: middle of this year, twelve million dollars. And they know
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: we've been told seventy percent of the way through, but
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: on a schedule that we've also learned today National auditors
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: reporters said that they've been told a schedule and not
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: approved it. So they have not approved the schedule has
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: been given to by the contractors. They know it's going
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: to blow out the schedule and it's going to blow
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: out the cost. So we just we do not have
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: a handle on the cost. And I think you just
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: need to tell everyone involved in that. Look, thanks for trying.
• 34:27
  Speaker 8: Pack up your desk, don't don't pack up your tools,
• 34:29
  Speaker 8: just go straight home, do not pass go two hundred dollars.
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: There's not something to be entertained any further.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: A lot of argie bargie with the workforce on this
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: project too. The union's taking us taking a lend.
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: Of Us absolutely, so before the Senate estimates, the CEO
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: Dennis Barnes would not be drawn on what the cost
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: increase would be from the latest enterprise enterprise bargaining agreement,
• 34:53
  Speaker 8: so he said that it was about a twenty to
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: twenty five percent increase in wages. There's five thousand workers there,
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: but he would not comment on what that means for
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: the rest of the project. And his excuse was that
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: we've just we've checked it with market and guess who's
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: setting the market rates at the moment. It's the CFMEU
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: in the Melbourne project, this project that has had fifteen
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: billion dollars in basically corrupt union claims and expenses and
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: cash grabs, et cetera. So the market's being set in
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: Melbourne by the big build for the tunnels there, and
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: now Snowy is saying being we're just approving as at
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: market whatever the workers ask for.
• 35:26
  Speaker 12: So we are being taken for a ride.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: What a disaster. And if we stopped it now we're
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: just left with big tunnels under the Snowy Mountains. Maybe
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: we could use those to store our nuclear waste in
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: the future, but who knows. They're not going to be
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: much good for us I do while we've got time,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I just want to show you another element of the
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: usual green madness from labor. Here's Chris Bowen today sprooking
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: electric trucks, which of course are subsidized by taxpayers cash.
• 35:50
  Speaker 18: We've all seen the signs for passing another lymphops, but
• 35:52
  Speaker 18: this one is electric.
• 35:54
  Speaker 19: Big day for decoven to transport today, as.
• 35:57
  Speaker 18: Limphops is rolling out twenty six YEW electric trucks with
• 36:00
  Speaker 18: our support. This is great for energy security, thirty thousand
• 36:03
  Speaker 18: leaders less diesel use the year, Great for the drivers,
• 36:06
  Speaker 18: great for local residents with lower air pollution, less noise,
• 36:09
  Speaker 18: win win, Good day.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Aiden. If these electric semis are so brilliant, wider taxpayers
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: have to pay people to run them.
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: I mean he said that it's with our support.
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: How much support, Chris, Like, how much extra tuxpays money
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: is required to get one trucking company to buy a
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: few of those? Like, that's the question to be asked
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: if it should be done properly. If it makes sense,
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: the market will do it. They're clearly available, apparently, so
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: let's let the let the market rip if it makes sense.
• 36:34
  Speaker 8: I'm all for electrification exactly I don't sure my tax
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: is paying for it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining US AID and I appreciate it. Aid
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Morrison there from the CIS, we're going to get to
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: a break. On the other side, we'll catch up with
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Robbo and talk soccer ouse as they're looking to silence
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the US on Saturday morning out time before we go on,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: just on those electric trucks checked during the break that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: program for Linn Fox teen point six million dollars your
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: tax dollars going to provide those electric trucks. And that's
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: in addition to another seventy million dollar government scheme on
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: electric trucks. Your money, your hard earned tax dollars, dollars
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: being shoveled out in all these green energy programs, and
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be the best way to go. If
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: it's the best way to go, then let people buy them.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Stop wasting our tax dollars. Let's get onto sport now.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: We'll catch up with Robo in a second, but first up,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: it's going to be an early start for a lot
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: of Odie Ozzie's on Saturday morning with the soccer wos
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: facing the USA in Seattle at five am Eastern time.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Fox Sports News reporter Luke Doherty is on the ground
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: in California. You have a look at his report.
• 37:44
  Speaker 20: While the locals have welcomed the soccer roos with open arms,
• 37:47
  Speaker 20: the atmosphere between the Aussies and the US on the
• 37:50
  Speaker 20: field it's expected to be less than cordial in Seattle.
• 37:54
  Speaker 16: I never wanted to win a game more than this one.
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: I can tell you that free.
• 37:58
  Speaker 20: The last time they played in October last year, the
• 38:01
  Speaker 20: US won two one. The Aussi has left their mark
• 38:04
  Speaker 20: thanks to several bruising challenges. For a third day in
• 38:08
  Speaker 20: a row, the US is biggest star. Christian Pulasics trained
• 38:12
  Speaker 20: away from the main group as he continues to rehabilitate
• 38:15
  Speaker 20: a calf injury picked up against Paraguay. Victory against the
• 38:19
  Speaker 20: US hand Australia control of Group D.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: Let's catch up with sports broadcaster Mark Robinson. Robber, I'll
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: tell you what, Taking on the home team in your
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: second game is a big challenge. But wouldn't the Aussies
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: love to silence some of that trash talking from the US?
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  Speaker 12: Oh?
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  Speaker 19: Absolutely, I don't think and join me here. I can't
• 38:41
  Speaker 19: think of another national team who is often the underdog
• 38:46
  Speaker 19: in their sporting events, and I said to you a
• 38:49
  Speaker 19: couple of weeks ago before you went.
• 38:50
  Speaker 16: On holidays, I think.
• 38:51
  Speaker 19: But no team galvanizes his country like the soccer US
• 38:55
  Speaker 19: at the World Cup, underdogs the Turkey get up two
• 38:59
  Speaker 19: to one just to shut those Turkish.
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  Speaker 16: Who just used it really in the pre match.
• 39:07
  Speaker 19: And then you've got these donkey Yanks commentators and it's
• 39:10
  Speaker 19: all theater.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 39:12
  Speaker 19: A lot of it is theater, but not when it
• 39:14
  Speaker 19: comes to the players in the US, what are we
• 39:16
  Speaker 19: twenty six million?
• 39:17
  Speaker 16: What's America three hundred million?
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three hundred and thirty versus about twenty eight game?
• 39:23
  Speaker 19: Yeah, what a performance would be in Seattle? Do you
• 39:25
  Speaker 19: know that it's going to be a little bit of
• 39:28
  Speaker 19: an issue the Seattle stadium with a Seahawks play in
• 39:31
  Speaker 19: the in the in the football league, that's that's been
• 39:37
  Speaker 19: checked as the loudest stadium in America.
• 39:40
  Speaker 16: Yeah, it's going to be a big crowd. The Yanks
• 39:43
  Speaker 16: are going to make plenty of noise, so they've got
• 39:47
  Speaker 16: a bit to do.
• 39:47
  Speaker 19: But the way they're playing the soccer ruse, you've got
• 39:50
  Speaker 19: to give them a big thing.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't rate myself as a soccer expert. Just
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: to kick a ball in the park after I stopped
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: playing footy. But I watch all of that game on Sunday.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Are so brave and organized in defense, and then the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: few times they went forward they were so clinical, And
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: you know, if they can defend like that against America,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: they're going to really frustrate the Bejesus out of them.
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  Speaker 18: Yeah, they did.
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  Speaker 16: I mean we got them on transition. If we can
• 40:14
  Speaker 16: use that word, we use a lot now if I
• 40:15
  Speaker 16: put him we got them on transition.
• 40:17
  Speaker 19: We keep a couple of goals, but we parked the
• 40:20
  Speaker 19: bus a lot at the end, and it did frustrate
• 40:23
  Speaker 19: the Turks, and I'm sure if we do the same
• 40:26
  Speaker 19: against the Americans. They're liable people, liable to get upset
• 40:33
  Speaker 19: when they can't do what they're allowed to do.
• 40:35
  Speaker 12: You know that, Chris, as.
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: Well as in life. You can't do what you could
• 40:38
  Speaker 16: want to do, you get really frustrated. So I'm sure
• 40:41
  Speaker 16: part of the.
• 40:41
  Speaker 19: Game plan will be just nullify, just frustrate them, anger them,
• 40:47
  Speaker 19: and then take our opportunities when they come.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Now, what about the NRL made in the state of origin.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: It's a big New South Wales Queensland thing, But you've
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: got to hand it to Victoria and Melbournians and the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: MCG a game that's not their own. They turn up
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: another record crowd and it was a fantastic game.
• 41:06
  Speaker 19: You asked me a couple of weeks ago, why do
• 41:07
  Speaker 19: we have the game at the MCG. I spread the Norse,
• 41:11
  Speaker 19: spread the spread the movement, but b ninety one thousand
• 41:15
  Speaker 19: at the MCG for a code that you know, We've
• 41:18
  Speaker 19: got the Melbourne Storm and if you follow sport.
• 41:20
  Speaker 16: In Melbourne, you follow the Melbourne Storm. To have that
• 41:23
  Speaker 16: crowd last night and the game itself.
• 41:25
  Speaker 19: I watched all of this game. I thought the New
• 41:27
  Speaker 19: south Wales had them. I thought they were really professional
• 41:30
  Speaker 19: and strong early. But then there's something about the Queenslanders
• 41:35
  Speaker 19: in Great Theater by Billy Sladers.
• 41:36
  Speaker 16: They come on, Vix, follow us, you hate the South Pales.
• 41:40
  Speaker 16: He's not half wrong. But the way they played in
• 41:44
  Speaker 16: the second half, it was just full of the venture.
• 41:47
  Speaker 19: They just said, right, let's take on the game, let's
• 41:49
  Speaker 19: run and move, play on quick.
• 41:52
  Speaker 16: It was so exciting and then they just walloped them
• 41:54
  Speaker 16: their name.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Oh they did, you know?
• 41:56
  Speaker 16: Yeah?
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I thought the New South Wales would have been really
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: pleased with most of their first half. They were pretty stoic,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: but boy they got walloped in that second half. Anyway,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: the great news is it means we'll get a decider
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: are up in Brisbane in a few weeks. Thanks for
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: joining us, Rob, I appreciate.
• 42:10
  Speaker 16: Its great sleeper Mark.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Robinson all over the sport for us there from a Victoria.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: I wasn't away on holidays, as you know, I had
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: my knee replaced. It wasn't much fun, but it's great
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to be back. After the break, we'll have the National
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Cabinet with Tim and Mark and we'll talk about many
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: things with them, including the public. Now calling time on
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: the ABC, let's convene our Thursday National Cabinet with the
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair and Mark Nicholson from step Mate Studios. Gentlemen,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. Why don't we kick off with
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: your assessments of Pauline Hanson's performance at the National Press
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: Club yesterday.
• 42:48
  Speaker 7: You go first, Tim, I thought it was an extraordary performance,
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: mainly by the press. This is they keep playing to
• 42:55
  Speaker 7: Paulie Hanson's streets, which is to vilify a normal Australian
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: human and turn into were a figure of pretend evil
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: and it just makes the media look ridiculous, and really
• 43:07
  Speaker 7: the cherry on top of the ice cream was that banner.
• 43:10
  Speaker 7: The unfeeling of the banner that could not have been
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: scripted better than my co host himself.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I just saw it was pathetic. You know, they're trying
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to be unbiased the press club, and this is what happens.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: It's just pathetic. What do you reckon? Tim? Sorry?
• 43:27
  Speaker 12: Mark mate.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I got to say, I never thought that the press club,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: a press club conference would be so entertaining.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: This had a little bit of everything. It was awesome.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Pauline was she'd had her week bis yesterday.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: She was fired up, she was ready to go.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: We had the banner, we had the press with people
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: losing their jobs on the spot. It was so much fun.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: It was I was the first time ever I've been
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: jealous of everybody in that room was It was extraordinary.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: But I've got to say the courage for her to
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: step up, by the way, old paul et in quite
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: a lot of esteem, but all the eyeballs on her,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: like her sitting in the chair before it all happened,
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I was just I know, she's got a lot of courage,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: but that took an extraordinary effort.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: From her that was that was really cool to see. Yeah,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: she was brilliant in the question and answer. I thought
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I had a couple of favorite ones where she didn't
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: worry too much about the home audience there. She worried
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: more about what the rest of Australia was thinking.
• 44:23
  Speaker 21: Have a look at this and camera cops a lot
• 44:26
  Speaker 21: of criticism from conservatives. You've spent a lot of time
• 44:29
  Speaker 21: here in your career.
• 44:30
  Speaker 12: How do you rate our nation's capital.
• 44:38
  Speaker 14: I tried to keep out of it as much as I
• 44:40
  Speaker 14: possibly can.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: I've done some camera trips with you, Tim Do you
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: identify with that or or do you like camera? For
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the summer nats?
• 44:51
  Speaker 7: That's one reason to go there. I think I might
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: be the only person in history to get a speeding
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: ticket driving to camera. So I am when hand some
• 45:01
  Speaker 7: answers in that direct, very down home kind of way
• 45:04
  Speaker 7: of hers. It really emphasizes the gap between herself and
• 45:08
  Speaker 7: as a question was asking and camera. It's I keep
• 45:12
  Speaker 7: coming back to this, the press just handballing everything to
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: her in the Gold Square at the moment, if I
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: can march in on Robber's.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: Territory, Look, look there's another exchange here which I really
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: admire just for her courage and honesty. I suppose because
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: she said that she's going to abolish the SBS altogether.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And of course she got this question from the SBS reporter.
• 45:34
  Speaker 21: But SBS is providing Australian news in sixty languages, not
• 45:39
  Speaker 21: international news alone.
• 45:40
  Speaker 14: We've got seven, isn't that in line too well to
• 45:43
  Speaker 14: be in language up to six? And then you've also
• 45:46
  Speaker 14: got you know, the other forms of internet as well.
• 45:50
  Speaker 14: Sky's great to go and look for news.
• 45:52
  Speaker 21: So I'm talking about in sixty languages to help people
• 45:55
  Speaker 21: integrate into Australia. Look, I can understand.
• 45:58
  Speaker 14: Your question, you're going to be without a job.
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: I can understand that.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: She told her straight Mark.
• 46:08
  Speaker 22: She's just transparent as glad rap mate, and that's that's
• 46:11
  Speaker 22: why it's resonating. This is the sort of stuff that
• 46:13
  Speaker 22: we're begging from our political class, is that we don't
• 46:17
  Speaker 22: have to question whether she actually believes it. She's not
• 46:19
  Speaker 22: sitting on the fence trying to be making sure everyone's
• 46:22
  Speaker 22: okay and everyone likes me.
• 46:24
  Speaker 12: Am.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I know, everything's tested.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: She just says what she thinks and hey, let's take
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: it to an election. Let's see what people think whether
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: you want the ABC and ESB is still around or
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: whether you think there are a huge waste of money.
• 46:34
  Speaker 7: Yes, goud SBS have found someone whose name wasn't Anna
• 46:37
  Speaker 7: Henderson to ask a question, seriously, what is the point
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: of the special broadcasting service when it's just the A,
• 46:45
  Speaker 7: B C right down to the genetic habit.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: A bit too angry for you? If your liking you,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: reckon's wider than me. Now it's interesting on this public
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: broadcasting topic when you're talking about public sentiment, because on
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: our Sky News Polse survey this week it's shown that
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: fifty percent of the population reckon it would be a
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: good idea to make the ABC a subscription service. And
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this is a policy that Anthony that Pauline Hanson has announced,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: so she's in sweet with the broad sweep of public
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: opinion here and the Advanced Organization are jumping on this.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Have a look at their social media clip.
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: Is the ABC finally finished as we know it? A
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: bombshell new poll reveals a clear majority of Australians now
• 47:37
  Speaker 6: want to strip back its taxpayer funding and force it
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: onto a subscription model. Fifty five percent say enough of
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: the bias, scandals and endless waste no more blank checks.
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: Those who want the ABC should pay for it themselves.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the kicker is, of course, tim that while
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: people want it to be a subscription service, most of
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: them say they wouldn't prescribe.
• 48:04
  Speaker 7: They've always opposed it, They've always scooned about it. They
• 48:07
  Speaker 7: know if market forces involved in any way, the ABC
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: is toast because no one wants to actually pay for it.
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: If they were to pay for it as a segment
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: of the population of Australia, their annual fee would be
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: in the millions. Indeed, if the ABC viewership was going
• 48:26
  Speaker 7: to pay for the ABC, because you know it's it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: a tiny viewership and they've just got They don't have
• 48:33
  Speaker 7: the numbers to cover like the rest of the population does.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: So it's an indulgence. We have to pay for all
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the leftists indulgence. Now, mark your thoughts on Prince Harry
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: and Meghan heading back to London. Hopefully they're going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: catch up with the King and it'll all be sweetness
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: and light mate.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: I cannot wait for this. I am so pumped. They've
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: been very quiet for a long time. I need more cringe,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: I need more, I need more embarrassing moments.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I just I'm desperate for it.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: I've not enjoyed them being quite so I'm very glad
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: they're going to the UK and no doubt we'll put
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: their footnet at some point.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: They will indeed out in the front of Buckingham Palace
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: all the like. Thanks for joining us, gentlemen. We'll catch
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: up with you next week. That's just about all the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: time we've got for you. I might just share some
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: of your feedback from what we saw from the Press
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Club yesterday. And Pauline Hanson, one of viewer, says it
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: was an historic moment for conservative politics, while someone Elves
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: says the protest at the National Press Club now makes
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: me more determined to vote one nation, and Debbie says
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I watched it all and Pauline did absolutely brilliantly. She
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: spoke with honesty and transparency and spoke from the heart.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: That's why she's winning in the polls yeh, she's certainly
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: sailing high in the polls Now, it was a big day.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. I'll be back next week. Up
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: next is Steve Price for Peter Quidlin.