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Everything They Never Wanted You To Question | Everything’s Energy Ep-16 · EEShow (Everything's Energy Show)

• 0:00
  Michael: I'm still on the fence of whether these people are good people or bad people.
• 0:02
  Roland: That's the next thing. It's like because now you can't trust anyone or anything. If someone gets in a position of power, the question is, are they there to fight the system, or are they actually secretly a psyop to serve the system as an antagonist to make you believe that they're fighting the system?
• 0:16
  Michael: Well, let's go down this rabbit hole too. You're tuned in to Everything's Energy. I'm Michael Scaler. I'm here with
• 0:23
  Roland: Roland.
• 0:23
  Marino: And Marino.
• 0:25
  Michael: And today, we're going to have a a very lighthearted and fun discussion, about a a great deal of things. And I don't even know how to express it other than stay on the edge of your seat because this is probably gonna be just as hilarious at as it is crazy. And and to start off
• 0:43
  Roland: I think I know how to express
• 0:44
  Michael: don our hats.
• 0:45
  Roland: Okay. Here's how we express it. Welcome
• 0:49
  Michael: to Everything's Energy tinfoil hat edition. My
• 0:52
  Roland: third eye has gotta be able to breathe.
• 0:54
  Michael: Is it breathing?
• 0:55
  Roland: I think so. Think I I can get rid of the gap perfectly.
• 0:57
  Michael: So we we wanted to have a conversation about conspiracy theories. You know, nine eleven's an inside job. The the government's watching us right now. Burp the pigeons are listening devices and so are cats apparently. I guess let's start with nineeleven.
• 1:14
  That's the deepest one and nonpolitical. I believe, you know, when you look at the Building 7, no plane hit it and it fell. It's kind of an obvious something weird happened. Apparently people took out the owners of the buildings took out insurance policies a month before maybe less. And obviously, it's just all, I mean, I've seen videos where they're saying it was holograms that hit two.
• 1:38
  I don't know if I really believe that or can subscribe to that. The technology was definitely way ahead of its time if they were able to do all that. What are your guys' thoughts? Roland, let's start with you.
• 1:48
  Roland: I mean, I've always sniffed the bullshit on nineeleven from the early days after you got over the shock and awe, you look at things and you go, how does something hit up so high that all of a sudden a building that is meant to withstand essentially any physical trauma to it just implode. And it very choreographed in that sense. So if you look at how all of the variables came together with nine eleven, it's always seemed like an inside job, but the risk is you sound crazy when you bring these things up.
• 2:18
  Michael: Well, mean, this is actually the least tinfoil probably topic that we're gonna get into because I mean, it's in the mainstream media making a joke about how it's just the craziest conspiracy theory that's really not very theoretical. I remember I had a Napster back in the early 90s. And they were literally putting out that documentary on basically just laying out how it was an inside job as like some other video major mainstream video title at the time in the pirating software. I remember downloading and just watching the whole thing and be like, don't even care if this isn't what I was intending to watch. Like, this is crazy.
• 2:50
  Roland: I have to watch it now. If you think about how much the world has changed since nineeleven, if you look at it from a long view perspective, if someone was conducting or controlling this whole thing, it kind of seems like that was a very important point because after that, a lot of things ushered in, in terms of war Well, and security the war on terrorism, but even- You take
• 3:11
  Marino: your shoes off now?
• 3:12
  Roland: I remember being able to go into the cockpit when I was a kid and in planes and just like, Oh, I can see what the pilot's doing. And now, you know, if the pilot goes to the bathroom, you have this blockade. And it seems so extreme, but we've become rationalized to this ultra security taking away our perceived sense of innocence and anything that we do when we travel. I
• 3:37
  Michael: And a moment of silence for the fact that we've all lost so many liquids and creams at TSA
• 3:43
  Roland: because I had Apple's so many good quality products internationally that I knew I could not order in other countries and they're just.
• 3:49
  Michael: I had hummus once and they took I my was trying to eat how they had hummus and I had vegetables. They're like, you can't bring this on the plane, sir. I'm like, are you seriously taking my snacks? Yeah.
• 4:01
  Marino: I mean, it's all drama too. Because like, even what you meant, I didn't know about the whole pilot going into the bathroom until I experienced it where I was gonna go. And the sewers, like, lost her mind. She was like, stop. And I was like, what's going on?
• 4:13
  It's like, if I really had an intention of, like if I'm at a point in my life where I'm giving up my life, you think you're gonna stop me?
• 4:20
  Roland: Yeah. You're not. Lady, it's a number two.
• 4:23
  Michael: Get out of my way. So,
• 4:26
  Marino: yeah, it's all I mean, it it gives you this sense of safety. Right? It's like all the securities and all that stuff, but if someone really, like, really wanted to, kind of backtracking. When I look at that, I kinda I like to look at the science of of it all, which is like, oh, here we are bringing science into conspiracy theory. But there are certain things that are just objectively true that can't you can't kinda argue against.
• 4:48
  Number one, if you look at the way that the demolition happened, right, it has a very design a very, specific design in the way that it fell. It was exploding. To be placed. Yeah. And there were, like, explosion be even before all that.
• 5:02
  You also look at the temperature of jet fuel and what it can and cannot melt and what temperatures are required in order for steel to kind of decompose and break down. That much steel. And then also, we had an incident with, Empire State Building where a building did hit it. And so when they build the Empire then they build the World Trade Center, that was one of the things. It was like, we need to design this such that if it gets hit by a plane, it doesn't come crashing down.
• 5:26
  And so, I don't know, all of those things and the way that everything kind of fell through and and the whole there are other things also with the Pentagon and
• 5:34
  Michael: whether or there was no plane there. Yeah. They took all the footage and hit it. It's like, it was probably a missile. I mean, I can't say for a fact, but
• 5:41
  Roland: And George Bush did finish his children's story after he had been told that the planes hit the tower.
• 5:46
  Michael: Upside down book too.
• 5:48
  Roland: Upside down book.
• 5:49
  Michael: I mean and then you I mean, conspiracy theory here here's how I started looking at when people go, oh, woah, I'm like, well, is there money to be made? Because that's normally the root of a false flag or a narrative. And so they were there I think we were like $5,000,000,000,000 missing in the Pentagon and that just hit the news and all of a sudden those offices got blown up.
• 6:10
  Roland: Interesting. Yeah.
• 6:12
  Michael: There's no motive there to destroy the offices where investigation was occurring. That would that would never be Why would
• 6:17
  Roland: you get rid of information?
• 6:19
  Michael: 5 trillions, that's not very much money. I mean, you're you're trying to achieve something. So you have a couple of things and here, well, tinfoil hats on.
• 6:30
  Roland: Too late.
• 6:31
  Michael: And you're like, $1,000,000 in sharks with laser beams is kind of a logical path that maybe they took was really it came down to we need if they're not working or contributing, maybe they should they should go. So was a huge financial gain. They're back to follow the money.
• 6:45
  Roland: No, not at all. The thing about vaccines too, and this culture kind of came to me having a conversation with someone. One thing that COVID did was it stimulated the pharmaceutical industry the same way that war does the financial industry, industry because people started to get tired of drugs, drug advertising, marketing. You can only give a drug to someone who needs a drug reactively, but you can give a vaccine to everyone proactively under the right conditions and context. And you're right, it's in the sense that people cannot admit to be wrong sometimes.
• 7:20
  So they'll uphold a narrative to save their own shame and their own guilt or remorse. But if you also look at what COVID did, that dynamic created massive divide.
• 7:30
  Michael: It did, still to this day. To this day.
• 7:32
  Roland: But I'm not saying that, but maybe it's something to think about. Like, what do you guys think about the narrative of the government, the global elites,
• 7:53
  Michael: then obviously they have enough money. Typically, you look at some of the higher net worth elites, they have enough money. What they would seek then would be power.
• 8:02
  Roland: And
• 8:03
  Michael: let's say you are just playing this game of elite power and you can buy anything so alright but what you can't buy is a reaction. So let's say that maybe it's just all hilarious to them. Like look what we made the monkeys do.
• 8:19
  Roland: It's a game. It's an inconsequential giant game.
• 8:22
  Michael: Yeah. So like you have the Black Lives Matter thing go and they, hey, look, we made mobs. Isn't this hilarious? And then the trans movement. And so, I mean, and this is a crazy thing too.
• 8:33
  I feel like racism became more prevalent when they shone this giant light on it and made it a big issue. Because I remember being in school in the early through the nineties, racism was on a decline. It was just it was like, no, we're all humans. And then all of a sudden it was around probably Obama era. Is like, oh, there's injustice and all of a sudden racism shot up.
• 8:57
  It's like, okay, it was literally disappearing. It was on its way out. And then the media goes, oh, no, can't let this divide tactic disappear. So we need to like inflame it. And then just continue to inflame.
• 9:08
  And then you have the queer community. And honestly, I've never cared. You love someone, you love someone. That's great. But, and most people seem to have that perspective.
• 9:20
  And then all of a sudden it became this giant line in the sand and a political movement. And now you have people that are kind of anti gay because it's been thrown in their face so much. It's like the woke movement, the go woke, go broke. You actually see people like, I'm not even gonna watch Disney anymore because they promote this. It became a divide and conquer strategy.
• 9:39
  And you have a masculine, feminine divide as well that occurs. I don't know if that's so much as a societal or a political one or maybe that'll be next on CNN headline news.
• 9:49
  Marino: What's crazy, it all comes from the media. Yeah. It does. The world is just living their world, and then the media says, look at this. And and then it starts to create narratives and change people's behavior.
• 9:59
  And they're all kind of like they're strategies that, like, kind of get deployed. Like, do those things happen? Yes. Are they bad? Like, of course.
• 10:06
  Michael: The the monkeys are rebelling quick, more divine and conquer. Push the button. You need to be upset about this today. Grapes are all mind control devices. Don't buy grapes.
• 10:16
  Roland: Only green ones. There was a period of time, and I remember this meme that basically was a cartoon person that just says, I support the next thing. And it was like, there was needles in the person's arm, a Ukraine flag, a trans flag. And you said that perfectly. It's coming from somewhere.
• 10:33
  It's a message. So to play the devil's advocate here, someone has to be seeding this message.
• 10:39
  Michael: The puppet masters.
• 10:40
  Marino: Have you seen that video where they have, like, 20 or 30 or 50 news anchor shows playing at the same time and they're all saying
• 10:49
  Michael: the same Most most media is conglomerate. So it's all owned by one one major corporation. So they like, alright, this is the message and it goes down to hundreds of sources. And yeah, they literally parrot the exact same thing. That's extremely dangerous for someone to have that much power where they can shift an entire perspective or paint a perspective.
• 11:09
  That's why I think Elon bought Twitter. He was like, okay, I need to at least own one of these methods.
• 11:15
  Marino: And you have Bezos with Washington Post. Yeah. Yeah. So they figured it out.
• 11:20
  Michael: I'm still on the fence of whether these people are good people or bad people.
• 11:23
  Roland: That's the next thing. Because now you can't trust anyone or anything. If someone gets in a position of power, the question is, are they there to fight the system or are they actually secretly a psyop to serve the system as an antagonist to make you believe that they're fighting the system?
• 11:37
  Michael: Well, let's go down this rabbit hole too because I think most people have good intentions to start. But Elon has too much power in my perspective. He's controlling the Internet. He controls the roadways and he controls space. Those satellites are wild.
• 11:54
  They're super cool technology. I'm not gonna knock those. He kicked NASA's butt going to space too, which I have Matt props and created some of the coolest AI technology on the planet currently that's rolling. But that's the other power of control as well as with the AI. He has his own LLM, his own AI.
• 12:10
  Like the dude, if he went full dark mode, we could just be We're like cooked. We're cooked. Yeah. It doesn't matter how many tinfoil hats we put on, we're cooked. So but and then then so one person having that much control too, I would have a little bit of a theoretical issue with.
• 12:26
  Cause I think he's a decent human being any means while he's done this all for the betterment of humanity. But all it would take is someone kidnapping his family and putting him at gunpoint and he say go push some buttons and then we're cooked. And this is like the having this monopoly on so much power and technology. It's innovative in society. I think it's extremely beneficial in society to have these innovations, but should one person really be at the helm of all that?
• 12:52
  Marino: Yeah. And once they get there, then they they have so many resources that they just continue to build on it. And there's no it's just it's compounded.
• 13:00
  Roland: Well, the other thing too is, are they a corruptible person or not?
• 13:04
  Michael: Well, and that's why I say it might not matter whether they're corruptible or not. At some point, if say you've got a 10 person family and some dude has got a sniper on all your family or in a room altogether with a button to blow everything up, most fathers are gonna be like, yeah, I'll destroy the world to save my family. I mean, it's just human nature to save your family. So whether they're corrupt or not, can they be corrupted by an outside influence or will they just turn into the next Doctor. Evil and then design cyber trucks with laser beams?
• 13:34
  Roland: I mean, again, this is all in theory, but he's even starting to play into the things. Recently someone made a comment about him being a 200 year old alien and he's just playing right into it on X where he's stating where he's from and what he's doing. And you ask about, should someone have the power? Regardless of he's joking or not, you know there's a subset of the population that's going to go, yes, he's admitting the truth. And then these people start to espouse these ideas and that's how you become an agent of chaos.
• 14:03
  You have enough influence and power that you perpetuate these things simply by going and having a fun time and making a joke. So that is an issue to your point. Should people have that much monopoly of power, whether they're overt about it or they are in the background? No, because it creates a massive divide between the select few and the rest of us who are kind of at the mercy of not knowing how this game is really going and trying to figure out truth.
• 14:28
  Michael: I think we can segue into a whole new chapter here on the living the 200 year old it probably branches in a couple different ways. But, you know, in theory with technology being advances is most people aren't aware that we're probably fifty years ahead of where we are now, but it's like an underground or a DARPA kind of situation. There's the conspiracy theory of cloning. And some of these celebrities like disappear for a little while and come back and they're mentally different or maybe look a little slightly different, you know. What do you guys thought on the I believe the technology's there.
• 15:00
  I mean, we were cloning sheep and pigs and we're making different animals glow in the dark somehow.
• 15:05
  Roland: I've gone down this rabbit hole a little bit. I have So some stuff to there is a company supposedly in Canada called Clonate. There is a website. The lady who's in charge of it is also a high priestess for some sort of religious order that is an homage to alien races who have come here and the original guy, like he a big sex orgy thing, as they all are. Always wore white.
• 15:33
  Apparently the cloning thing has been here for a long time, much longer than we can even fathom. And the Dolly the sheep cloning thing was supposedly just like a public display of A, look what we can do, B, it's an admittance that we because have this supposedly the rule is for these people who control everything-
• 15:53
  Michael: Puppet masters.
• 15:54
  Roland: Yes, they can do what they want to do, providing they show us in some sort of veiled hiding in plain sight display of their capabilities, so they're not truly fooling us. So I have gone down the rabbit hole of a cloning thing, and supposedly what happens is they can replicate the person's body, they download the consciousness and they put it in the new person.
• 16:17
  Michael: So Black Mirror.
• 16:18
  Roland: Basically. But if you Google Cloneade, like it's a legit company and on its website it Like says
• 16:24
  Michael: Clone AID? I believe
• 16:25
  Roland: that's what it is.
• 16:26
  Michael: All right, viewers, if you Just wanna go go down on that Wikipedia. That twelve at midnight kind of deep rabbit hole that keeps you up till 6AM, Cline.
• 16:34
  Roland: And and and, you know, the conspiracies go deep with, like, the Joe Biden with his different ear lobes and all these different versions of the clones that eventually they they start to have they malfunction over time. So they have to like put that one away and get a new one booted up. So that's what explains the going dark of that person's public appearance and persona. But it's a really weird thing. But what do you guys think?
• 16:56
  Do you think cloning is possible?
• 16:57
  Marino: I'm right into the physical, like biological cloning, but the consciousness is where I kind of like, I don't see how they would be able to do that. And if they did, it's not that person's spirit anymore.
• 17:08
  Roland: Apparently, it's a soulless version of them. It's like a preprogrammed NPC automaton. Yeah.
• 17:15
  Michael: Well, let's dive in it from a science perspective. I could totally see someone printing or growing bodies that are based off of genetic print.
• 17:24
  Roland: People have eaten a three d printed steak before so you can grow tissue.
• 17:27
  Michael: Yeah, so we can grow tissue and our DNA has so much information. That's really all you need. The next thought would be just an AI LLM. And I've had this discussion with a couple people as well as like, can you make me a digital clone of me based off of how I would like you put a recording device on me for a year, it would know how I would act, it would know my mannerisms. And you probably don't even need to do it this long or that long in modern technology right now.
• 17:56
  But we can create digital avatars of ourselves right now in like thirty minutes. It'll sound like us. It knows our speech patterns and it's like hard to tell. So is the technology there? I think the technology is there.
• 18:08
  Are there puppet masters and elites out there that have this technology? Maybe. I can't say for a fact but the likelihood I would if I had a rate, is this a conspiracy theory or is it true? I'd give it two thumbs up. It's very likely true.
• 18:22
  Roland: Yeah, I can believe it more than I don't believe it.
• 18:24
  Michael: Yeah, The technology is definitely there.
• 18:27
  Roland: Well, healthcare is just a word association. The industry of healthcare is really just illness management. Yeah, because if you ever thought that the only two people who are considered users are drug users and social media users. It's that kind of energy where you just want to keep people engaged in the system because drugs are incredibly profitable. Like it takes a few cents probably to make a Lipitor or Crestor cholesterol medication and through insurance they're paying astronomical amounts.
• 18:54
  So the profits are incredible. I believe that the cure for almost any disease is possible. The technology likely exists, but then you have a bunch of healthy people who are self sufficient, self thinking and self responsible. And it's not good if we keep on the track of the- Don't
• 19:09
  Michael: let the monkeys get self aware. Oh, no.
• 19:11
  Roland: To let them think for themselves.
• 19:12
  Marino: Because when I think about, like, you know, if I were to make a product, the products that make the most amount of money is the one that you continuously have to buy. And we've seen this inside corporations, for example, with the light bulb where they purposely mixed in a certain kind of chemicals so that it would only last as long as they did before it would burn out and you have to buy another one. There are certain engines that lack that go into 500,000, a million miles, and they're fine, but then you have the average engine that doesn't do that. Buy a Toyota. So it's like, how are they capable of doing that?
• 19:46
  And we're not. Well, it's this whole consumerism, right? Coming back.
• 19:51
  Michael: And yeah, you want a reoccurring revenue stream in any business model. That's how you get wealthy is reoccurrence. So these people need to come back, come back, come back. And if you can drop ship ship even better if it's every 10,000 miles, that's awesome. Or I guess it'd be even less as 3,000 miles.
• 20:07
  Roland: Wonder what the mileage on a clone body is these days. It's gotta be getting better.
• 20:11
  Michael: Well, mean, I guess we can dive down the Biden aspect there. I mean, was he cloned? Was he wearing a mask? There was definitely I saw a lot of videos on the internet where I was just like, and so Biden was constantly a clone. That clone shifted looks and speech capabilities pretty fast.
• 20:29
  Roland: I remember watching a time lapse video of him and all because he's been in politics since what? The seventies? Early seventies?
• 20:36
  Michael: Before I was born. Yeah.
• 20:37
  Roland: And there is a time lapse video of him throughout the years in office. And I swear, like you look at the video and it does look like a different person from beginning to end.
• 20:48
  Michael: All the way. All the way. Even through his presses. There's multiple times where you're like, I don't remember if there's one thing with this girl. She's a comedy.
• 20:54
  She's like, yo, that's a mess. That's right. It did look like wrinkles and squares. I'm like, I mean, do old people do wrinkle, but man, that dude sure looks different every time we see him on film.
• 21:02
  Roland: But then there's the idea that Trump is a time traveler. So Biden was a clone, but now Trump is the same guy who moves through time. And you know what's interesting? You guys obviously know who Nikola Tesla is.
• 21:16
  Michael: Yeah, that's my favorite part about this story.
• 21:18
  Roland: Yes. It was Trump's, it was his uncle and his father, but his family were the ones who essentially procured all of Tesla's technology after he passed away. And no one knew what happened. Apparently there was his Ray gun, he had cracked things, but they made him out to be a crazy homeless like man who basically just nursed pigeons back to health. He just told me pigeons aren't real, so we'll get into that.
• 21:44
  So if Trump's family has procured said devices, the idea is his ability to move through time explains how he's gaming this whole thing, how he overturned an election that was rigged against him, all of these things. You guys He
• 21:59
  Michael: dodged the bullet. He knew
• 22:01
  Roland: when to move exactly, he threw the fist up even, and apparently his ear doesn't make sense how he got shot and how his ears
• 22:07
  Michael: healed. I'll be honest, nothing in politics ever makes sense anymore.
• 22:10
  Roland: No, but then there's the idea of the book in the Baron Trump book, which was a book written in what the 1800s that described someone who looked just like Trump's son, who would rise to fame in a very specific way. So it was almost like a prediction. So the question is, did he go back in time, read the book and then go, well, I can see this in the way that we'll lay it out and make it believable to people. What do you guys think about the notion of someone, not just Trump, but someone time traveling in general?
• 22:39
  Michael: Well, I think Tesla was an absolute genius and someone who's seen some of Tesla's works actually said that my cradle of life art project looks like drawings of Tesla's time machine. I was just like I've been asking everyone like, please someone give me these drawings. I wanna confirm this and I can't. So if there was a scientist that has ever existed that was theorizing time travel, would imagine that Tesla actually was diving into that. The thought of time travel is extremely complex.
• 23:09
  I know there's been a lot of different projects and phasing material things in and out. Don't know if we've gotten there or if we have, but if you could I mean, we had Danny on the show too and it was really interesting what he said is when he reached NDE, he went forward and backwards in time. Now is it possible that Tesla literally zapped himself with so much electricity that was like being struck by lightning like Danyan was? And that's how he's time traveling. So maybe people have really maybe it's not so much time travel, but you zap out of the third dimension.
• 23:44
  And when you're in your body, you're able to move. That would be my best theory because actually moving physical three d bodies throughout a time stream seems extremely complex.
• 23:57
  Roland: But if
• 23:58
  Michael: we're energy passed outside our body, maybe then that could be that's my theory on the science of it.
• 24:04
  Roland: Yeah, I'm with you there. Because if you look at Star Trek, how they dissolve all the molecules, like how would you predict making sure that all those molecules organize themselves in the exact same way in a different location, in a different timeline? What if your nose ends up on your ass cheek?
• 24:19
  Marino: But then it creates another timeline, right? So how many timelines are there? And so it gets very sophisticated very quickly.
• 24:26
  Roland: Time is a dimension. If you can bend the energy of a dimension in some capacity, you can move through time theoretically, not saying I understand the basics of the science of that. But if what you're saying is a truth that Tesla somehow gave himself the ability to access the information in a way that it actually was a simple process, I believe time travel could be possible. We just have to look at it a different way.
• 24:51
  Michael: Maybe that's why all these presidents age so significantly fast when they're presidency. Maybe they're just going biweekly NDE, getting sat by world's biggest Tesla coil because all of them seem to age so rapidly.
• 25:03
  Roland: True. Except Trump.
• 25:05
  Michael: That's my that's my own personal tinfoil hat ticket there. We're we're gonna say that the presidents are possibly time travelers.
• 25:14
  Roland: Some do better than others.
• 25:16
  Michael: Are dying on a weekly basis to go back and forward in time.
• 25:20
  Roland: Yeah. Well, I got one if we're talking time.
• 25:22
  Michael: All right, let's do it. I think we have time.
• 25:24
  Roland: There we go. Humanity, civilization, aliens, reptilians, the true people who run this dimension. Have you guys jumped into this one at all? The reptilian race and
• 25:36
  Michael: Oh, I thought we were gonna talk about leprechauns. For the gold at the end of the rainbow. But yeah, if we want to
• 25:42
  Roland: do Gold lizard people, let's do is a good investment right now.
• 25:44
  Michael: I know, it's going up, man. I don't know what's going on, but it's going up.
• 25:48
  Roland: The lizard people, have you guys jumped into the reptilian race and how they've
• 25:52
  Marino: Yeah, been part
• 25:54
  Michael: we've all heard of proving it or finding something rooted in reality here. I don't have any reference past the dinosaurs. So maybe the dinosaurs did outlive us and turned into some humans and we don't know about it, but go for it. Let's hear it.
• 26:08
  Roland: Well, this is what I know. So apparently at one point in time, long before Mesopotamia existed, there were an ancient race of aliens that have been here on this planet. There's multiple races that have come, the Yananaki, the Skywalkers. And if you look at a multitude of different cultures, I actually just watched a video on this recently, there was an African shaman and this group of West Africans, I believe, have stories, conserved stories that explain a time before the moon arrived, which is an interesting thought, and a time when the lizard people came down to humanity. There's And been a couple different accounts of the same kind of story across different cultures over time.
• 26:49
  And sometimes the lizard people came and they were helping educate and advance humanity. Sometimes they came and they learned to manipulate the primitive species of people here and they used them to their advantage to sustain their energy or their power because they came to earth because they could no longer sustain in their planet. The idea is that these races interbred with humans and they created hybrid races. And the original families of interbreeds eventually became the kings and queens that were strategically placed around the world, the monarchy, and that's why arranged marriages used to be a thing because they tried to keep the bloodline as intact Makes as
• 27:28
  Michael: sense, yeah.
• 27:30
  Roland: The theory is, again, this is all theory. The theory is that the modern day world elite families have this bloodline that traces back to the original seed races who are here to control and manipulate humanity because they have a knowledge of how things work that is so far beyond our current understanding that they're just playing a game hiding in plain sight. And the reason that we're being so suppressed is because it benefits them. They feed off of our energy, our emotion, our disdain-
• 28:01
  Michael: Their aura farming.
• 28:03
  Roland: Basically. And they don't want us to be able to evolve because what's actually said about humans is we theoretically are the amalgamation of all the races that came before us. We were a genetic science experiment, because I believe there is something in the human genome that looks like an insert. There's been this statement that someone edited us hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands of years ago, and that edit was a splicing of off planet beings with whatever modern humanoids were here when they showed up. So we have all of this advanced technology inside of us, which is part of this spiritual revolution that people are accessing remote viewing capability, psychic stuff, but it's this battle.
• 28:49
  The reptilians want to keep us suppressed and we're trying to rise up against them. And that's who we're really fighting against in this consciousness war of good and evil. I know it was a very long explanation, that's what it's supposed to be around.
• 29:03
  Michael: Yeah, I don't know whether there's actual lizard people. I obviously wholeheartedly believe there are aliens. I'm sure they've I mean, we have Area 51, which everyone knows about broken ships. Talked to lots of people that I've personally seen UFOs throughout my life vividly and just smaller moving objects.
• 29:21
  Roland: I've seen a couple too.
• 29:22
  Michael: Yeah. So I'm like I mean, whether they were the US Air Force or lizard people, I don't know.
• 29:29
  Roland: Well, the lizard people thing, people think they have to look physically like lizards. What is said is it's not a physical character trait. Although you look at some people you're like, something a little weird about how your physical presentation is, but it's an energetic signature. It's a hiding in plain sight. Because if you think about the aspect of growth and ascension and evolution as a being, a physical body is actually a detriment to us.
• 29:55
  It's a condensation of consciousness. It's a low vibe thing. So an advanced race at some point would no longer need a physical body. They could attune their frequency and they can insert it into things that would have a configuration that may match them. Know the movie Venom?
• 30:12
  Yeah. He had to find a perfect host and then the match had to be a symbiosis. So the idea of the lizard people isn't there covering themselves in a physical suit, it's a DNA resonance in these people that you would not be able to see or sense unless you had an expanded consciousness.
• 30:31
  Marino: Where's the association to the reptiles?
• 30:34
  Roland: Yeah, Weird the genetics of how the race of being supposedly operates. They have a low affinity for emotion. They're very calculated, they're very cold. So
• 30:48
  Marino: it's the cold as a metaphor?
• 30:50
  Roland: I guess so. Their ability to feed off of emotion is what they do to manipulate humans to benefit them. And they have all of these traditions and these occult practices and various things that they can use because they know how to manipulate energy in the third dimension in a way that humans don't.
• 31:09
  Marino: Sounds like a psychopath.
• 31:11
  Michael: Could be, yeah. I had an interesting thought. I heard a speech someone was giving about like secret societies and they're saying their viewpoint, and maybe they're the reptilians. Well, their viewpoint was the monkeys or us or society is too stupid to govern themselves. So they need the elites to govern them.
• 31:34
  Obviously, think humanity's evolved to a certain point that if that is true, that at this point they're just holding on for dear life because they enjoy the power.
• 31:42
  Roland: I mean, that could be the warfare that we're seeing between light and dark and spirituality. That could be the practical embodiment. It could be a theory of what actually is going on as an idea.
• 31:57
  Michael: I guess we can segue into secret societies.
• 32:01
  Roland: Masons and all that kind of stuff.
• 32:02
  Michael: I mean, the Masons have buildings everywhere, so that's really not even a secret society. Watched this one podcast and this guy was saying, they're actually was a crazy story. I wish I'd written the dude's name down so I could reference but he's like, I started off as a a wizard and doing What's the one with the witches?
• 32:27
  Roland: Like seances and all those kinds
• 32:29
  Michael: Yeah, of like seances and
• 32:31
  Roland: Spell casting.
• 32:32
  Michael: Spell cast. He started off in like this lower level and wanted to try, like kept wanting to elevate. So hermetic, he went through all these different He ended up in satanism. So he was a satanist, a high degree
• 32:46
  Roland: Oh, is this the old guy with the beard? Yeah. I watched that same episode.
• 32:49
  Michael: This is the craziest story ever. And then he's like, I went to Satanism, and then I became a Mason, and I got past 33 degrees. And he's like and everyone in society, I didn't realize even theorize until this guy said it, goes far beyond. And then you know this message of, something, and that's where they start drinking, blood. And then he went to Mormonism afterwards.
• 33:12
  Yeah.
• 33:14
  Roland: He had he had quite the journey.
• 33:15
  Michael: And more he said Mormonism and Satanism were similar. Please do not shoot me for that one, guys. We're not advocating. We're not advocating that. And it was a crazy story of like a guy who went through every spiritual or religion that he could find, including the darker ones.
• 33:31
  And then literally says the one in like what might be viewed as one of the cleaner ones, Mormonism. I mean, they perceive very clean by all means. They don't drink alcohol, you know, lots of very family orientated. So Satanism and Mormonism being similar, was just like, man, this is a crazy story. But I mean, come down to Illuminati and obviously they have a Wikipedia says they're 400 years old.
• 33:54
  Was went down that Wikipedia thing one one day. So it's not, I guess, a conspiracy theory as just the secret society of the skull and bones. A lot these are like good old boy clubs where that were started back in the day. And I think honestly, when I theorize something that could have occurred, I think back to that point I was making about the monkeys aren't smart enough to govern themselves. I'm sure there were like scholars way back in the day where a lot of people couldn't read.
• 34:19
  They're like, hey, we need to we're all smart people. Like the smartest bros in the town got together and like, yo, we can help everyone if we just make this club and we can like secretly kind of guide people in the right direction. And then probably became a power struggle at a certain point. Like just most religions kind of start off with positive intonation and then, you know, look at the Vatican is the richest country in the world and it's like this big. It's like, okay, so at some point they're killing everyone and stealing all their wealth and just seemed like a power grab more than a spiritual belief.
• 34:49
  So secret society's thoughts.
• 34:52
  Roland: Marino?
• 34:54
  Marino: Don't have I haven't done any research into it. Don't know when I look at it, think about secret society. I think it's more about like concentrations of either certain organizations or something like that. I don't think that there's a table somewhere with 10 men, white cis men, that are, you know, making all the calls. There are a lot of organizations who have people and they're working in their best interest and they make things happen.
• 35:21
  But I think there's a lot of that. And I think that is what ultimately like,
• 35:25
  Michael: yeah. I guess we're starting a secret society here right now anyone on the internet can say there's three people wearing tinfoil hats and it made a triangle. Maybe
• 35:34
  Roland: They're a stable structure.
• 35:36
  Michael: Three dudes sitting down and talking is how you start a secret society in modern day.
• 35:40
  Roland: The idea of a secret society makes sense to me in regards to what you said. Back in the days when there were more highly and lower educated people, the smarter people would have to be the key drivers of innovation. And the thing that ultimately comes into this idea is at some point, someone thinks they're the smartest, they should have the most control and the human ego is a wily thing. So if you think about the Mason story, right? There's supposedly the 33 degrees of Masonry and most people according to that story who are there are actually there for altruistic purposes.
• 36:17
  They think they're there very
• 36:19
  Michael: Christian based, yeah, like spiritual based.
• 36:21
  Roland: Good stuff. When you get past that is when you get into the dark stuff supposedly. The same can be said for all major religions. Apparently secret societies have injected themselves in all major religions, in three letter agencies and various things. Why?
• 36:36
  Because if you divide and conquer, if the ultimate goal is control, and I think that's the negative for the secret society idea, insidious control coordinated strategically across all major aspects of society that influence where society goes. If that narrative is true, I could see how that could be a thing. And I try not to put too much cognitive bias towards what the last five or ten years have looked like, but if we're theorizing, theorizing, things have looked a little strange and there seems to be more information coming to the surface than ever, but you don't really know what to believe anymore.
• 37:14
  Michael: Yeah, there's so much information out there that make it hard to believe one thing or another. Because let's say that a video comes out of someone exposing the Illuminati the next day, CNN, Fox News, both left and right wing will come out like, hey, this is debunked as a hoax. I mean, there's the what was it? Taylor Swift is a mind control psyop or something like started going
• 37:34
  Roland: She's a witch and she does spells at her things. Yeah. I know
• 37:40
  Michael: if I subscribe to that, but there is magic in music, I believe. But it was just crazy watching all the news outlets. No, Taylor Swift is not. Don't believe this. It's like, god, that makes it seem like way more possibly realistic.
• 37:55
  Yeah.
• 37:56
  Marino: You're defending yourself to that. Yeah. I think music or even like the lyrics and what gets chosen to be put, especially when you look at certain genres that are listened by certain demographic of people. It's like, yeah, this is actually really not good for that demographic of people to be listening to this and you're consciously choosing it and elevating it and promoting it.
• 38:14
  Michael: Totally. Well, and you have one person, I don't know how many people fit in her stadiums, but she's definitely one of the biggest draws and anything she says between those songs, people's minds are so open to happiness and joy amidst her singing that if she drops a political statement in the midst of that, people are like, Oh my God, they're in a susceptible state where they would be more or less biased I should say and more amicable to the message, more controllable to the message. And so the old scriptures, beware false idols and prophets comes to mind. It's like, yeah, be careful those people that have so much power. Just like the Elon concept, if they're bought off, and I don't know who her overlords are, maybe it's the reptilians or maybe she just likes money or maybe she really does believe in the messages she says between her songs, all theory.
• 39:04
  It it is concerning when people become so famous that that people will hang on their words because I'll be honest, famous people really aren't always the brightest people to listen to. A great musician is great at making music.
• 39:15
  Marino: Shouldn't be speaking about politics or
• 39:18
  Michael: Yeah. I mean,
• 39:18
  Marino: you can have your opinion, but you're different than everyone else. And now that opinion is so much more significant because you're saying it, and it's just like, now we're we're blurring the lines. And, yeah, they can have this influence that otherwise wouldn't be attributed to them. And you would know, and you can make that discernment with someone you know in your life. But with celebrities, people don't.
• 39:38
  I don't understand.
• 39:40
  Roland: It's the assumption that their success justifies their opinion being heard louder than others. I think what you said is very important to consider.
• 39:48
  Michael: Yeah. Absolutely. I feel like we're running out of conspiracies.
• 39:53
  Marino: The pigeons.
• 39:54
  Roland: Why don't we talk about this one?
• 39:55
  Marino: Pigeons and cats. So there's an actual website you can go and you could like purchase merch, but they they have a diagram of the inside of a pigeon, and it's like this little computer and a little satellite or whatever. But the whole premise is that pigeons aren't real, that there are surveillance computers that are just going around and they're like drones scanning and listening and they're they're purged on your windowsill to record you and all this stuff. And, some people, if you go in there and you start reading the comments and they're
• 40:27
  Michael: like Like hook, line and sinker on
• 40:28
  Roland: the Maybe that's what Tesla was obsessed with pigeons for. Maybe he was just doing some R and D.
• 40:32
  Michael: Well, they're spying devices and for the love of God, everyone, please stop feeding the spying devices. House
• 40:39
  Roland: cats are another one. House cats are supposed to be remnants of alien hybrids that record information and send them back. Someone once told me, he said, Tell me another mammal with a vertical pupil that hisses. And I had to pause, and now that I've seen that, I can't unsee that. Because if you Google the eyes of a snake and the eyes of a cat, they are the same.
• 41:00
  And then I started looking at all the big Savannah cats, lions, tigers, jaguars, leopards, none of them have vertical pupils.
• 41:08
  Michael: Wow.
• 41:09
  Roland: It's a very strange thing.
• 41:11
  Marino: Maybe the reptiles merged our DNAs.
• 41:14
  Michael: Willy Tatl, we found our reptiles, they're the cats, they're the new listening devices Someone in our
• 41:19
  Roland: told me cats have psychic abilities and they can do mind control.
• 41:22
  Michael: Cats are really intuitive.
• 41:23
  Marino: Not Alexa, but the cat.
• 41:24
  Roland: Yeah, it's the cat, not Alexa.
• 41:26
  Michael: Not Alexa.
• 41:27
  Roland: Actually, that was the original Alexa. Before
• 41:32
  Michael: Amazon inserted or let you buy for $50 a listening device in your home, there were cats.
• 41:37
  Roland: Cats showed up during the Egyptian times and that were said to be the remnants of the aliens being in that area that were present in Atlantis and Lemuria and all that stuff.
• 41:48
  Michael: Oh, no. Mean, they're idolized throughout the yeah. Back to Egyptian culture, which is one of oldest noted where they're idolized and they're in all kinds of things and that's four thousand years ago. I still love cats. If they're spying on me, that's fine.
• 41:59
  Roland: Cats are cool.
• 42:00
  Michael: Love cats.
• 42:00
  Marino: Someone told me that dogs teach us unconditional love and cats help us get to our higher selves.
• 42:08
  Roland: Interesting. If you rearrange the letters in dog, you get God.
• 42:13
  Marino: Oh, so deep.
• 42:15
  Roland: That's how a dyslexic spells.
• 42:17
  Marino: What about tack? Dog. Tack?
• 42:19
  Michael: Tack. Tack, it's tactical.
• 42:21
  Roland: Yeah, tactical for your
• 42:22
  Michael: soul. And fish.
• 42:25
  Roland: Or it's act. Oh, that's weird.
• 42:27
  Marino: Cat rearrange They're it as acting,
• 42:32
  Roland: they're really in control. It's science, it just makes
• 42:36
  Marino: sense. Any others that we miss?
• 42:38
  Michael: I mean, the earth is possibly hollow. I mean, there's an entrance at the North Pole is entertaining. Apparently you can't fly over it. It's like a giant hole there maybe.
• 42:48
  Roland: The earth round. I heard it. And are we under a firmament?
• 42:53
  Michael: This one, I do not subscribe to the earth being flat just based off of the physics of it. I was thinking one way of like so space is a vacuum, right? We'll go science y. Space is a vacuum. In a vacuum, what shape does most things take?
• 43:12
  Roland: I would assume a round shape.
• 43:14
  Marino: Spherical. Spherical,
• 43:15
  Michael: yeah. But if it's fluid, it'd be spherical. So the amount of pressure outside of us would create a spherical object. If you look at water and air bubble inside something, so you leave it in there and you apply pressure, that air bubble is always spherical.
• 43:29
  Marino: Every space when you see water, it starts to form a sphere, everything does.
• 43:34
  Roland: The nature of everything in the world is to spin. Nothing stays on a Cartesian or two dimensional plane.
• 43:40
  Michael: And most of this world is, you know, water too. So it is a fluid object with a lot of mass in a giant vacuum, just that alone from a science view. I mean, there's other people say that there's a giant ferment and a dome over the planet and you know, if you try to go up high enough, you're going to crash into it.
• 44:00
  Roland: You're gonna hit water above so below,
• 44:02
  Michael: you know, all the missions to the moon are fake. Actually Oh, let's transition to that one. I kind of just shot down Flat Earth. And I'm sorry if you guys want to believe Flat Earth is flat and by all means. I just don't subscribe to it.
• 44:16
  I just think it's ridiculous. It's a huge, huge topic out there. First mission to the moon. My theory, theory, theory is we never made it to the moon. You filmed out in the desert.
• 44:28
  There's a lot of stuff circulating on that. And then we'll just go with some factual basics here. We still have trouble doing it to this day. And so what was it nineteen forty something?
• 44:41
  Roland: I don't know, was the 50s.
• 44:43
  Michael: Okay, it was over We fifty years didn't have iPhones, we didn't have quantum computing. And I think it was a race. It was Russia and we were in a race to get to the moon. I think they were just like, well, why don't we just fake going there?
• 44:58
  Roland: No one can prove it.
• 44:59
  Michael: Yeah, no one can prove it. And then we get to claim it was a huge morale booster for America to be like, we were the first ones there. But none none of the data adds up. NASA lost all their data.
• 45:08
  Marino: We also streamed it, didn't we?
• 45:10
  Michael: Oh, yeah. That's the other thing. We we couldn't, there was no streaming technology back there yet. We have live film from the moon. There's so many, it just keeps
• 45:21
  Roland: The waving flag.
• 45:22
  Michael: There's someone that found like a rat running on the scene. I mean, the waving flag in a vacuum, it just goes on.
• 45:29
  Roland: Who was recording the lunar module going back up, you know, like who held the camera down
• 45:35
  Michael: Yeah, there's too many nuances. But I think what really sums it up is we were trying to get a win without actually being technologically advanced. Because there's only India just got to the moon recently, allegedly, but that was also it looked AI generated.
• 45:50
  Marino: What if they landed? They landed on the moon?
• 45:52
  Michael: Yeah. Allegedly, India landed on the moon recently or I just saw some AI video that was in the news my newsfeed. I'm like, and the people were making fun of it on some other podcasts like it looks AI generated. Was on
• 46:03
  Marino: the moon last week.
• 46:05
  Michael: Yeah, don't we go every weekend?
• 46:07
  Roland: I astral projected this morning. Was kind of bored. Another
• 46:12
  Michael: fun one during that same era was the nuclear bomb. They showed the testing and this guy goes, but why didn't the camera blow up? Yeah. Think you're right. It's the most
• 46:22
  Roland: simple questions that unravel everything.
• 46:24
  Marino: It's like the entire building shreds. Yeah.
• 46:26
  Michael: It's like cameras.
• 46:27
  Marino: What camera were you using?
• 46:28
  Michael: Also, can't put your film and back then, only had one type of you can't put your film through the X-ray even today like normal film because it'll ruin it. What does a nuclear bomb generate?
• 46:37
  Roland: Radiation maybe? F'd. F'd. Tons of
• 46:40
  Michael: it, yeah. F'd would have melted the film. They didn't have digital media back then. I mean, it was like, okay. And this is kind of like back to get to the tinfoil hat gang here, which apparently we're part of now officially.
• 46:54
  The government has repeatedly lied about a significant amount of things or made something seem a certain way to fit their agenda throughout history. So it makes it really hard to trust the government. The government that's like the root of the tinfoil hat gang is don't trust the government because they're just not trustworthy. It's like, man, you guys need to really up your game and become a little more trustworthy. Something.
• 47:18
  Roland: The nature of government is supposed to be here to serve the people. But what it's become is we've become the servants of the government because they tell us what to do and we simply follow and we comply. And what you said there is very appropriate because the reason these conspiracy theories exist is along the way, people have gone, That didn't check out to me. That doesn't seem to make sense because we've been lied to. We've been knowingly lied to too many times.
• 47:46
  And then the mind goes, Well, if they're willing to lie about that, what else are they willing to lie about? And then people's thoughts start to run away. And yes, some of these things are applied to potentially crazy outlandish theories, but if you lie to someone once and you break trust, then how do you ever regain trust and truth?
• 48:05
  Michael: Can we make some new ones? And a lot of times the theory still kind of remains a theory because we can't base it off on like a mathematical fact, but it's like, looks like duck, quacks like duck, Everything duck, duck, duck, duck. And they're still saying it's not duck. It's like, come on, guys. It's a duck.
• 48:27
  Marino: Alright. I think that was our last quack.
• 48:29
  Michael: I think I'm the quack has officially ended, so.
• 48:33
  Roland: Oh, do you guys know where the term quackery comes from?
• 48:36
  Michael: Okay, we got one more.
• 48:37
  Roland: It's conspiracy not theory, but it's actually a piece of historical fact. It's an adaptation from German. So back in the day, what they used to do for medical procedures is when people had high blood pressure, they would inject them with silver, it was called Quebec silver. And what it would do, it would lower your blood pressure. No one knew how or why, but we found out it actually later perforated the glomeruli in the kidneys, so it actually relieved the intensive pressure buildup.
• 49:07
  And the quack came from the idea that these people are absolute idiots. They're injecting people with poison to help them manage their health.
• 49:14
  Michael: But silver is healthy.
• 49:16
  Roland: Not in this aspect. So not as much. Okay. So the quacks were the people injecting people with Quebec silver to help lower blood pressure and the term got adapted to all natural unproven medicine. Wow.
• 49:31
  Marino: It's like the lunatics.
• 49:32
  Roland: Yes. They get crazy when the moon's full because they're influenced by the electromagnetic shift of what the moon does.
• 49:38
  Michael: There's never a shortage of someone trying to make money off of selling snake oil somewhere. Oh, and that could just open up a whole another can of worms, but I'm gonna stop there. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for joining us on our tinfoil hat edition. Wanna hear from you in the comments. I'm sure we missed a lot of theories because there's just so many.
• 49:57
  So drop your favorites in the comments, join us, and and expressing yourself, and make sure you put your tinfoil hat on while you're doing it. Thank you for tuning into Everything's Energy. We'll see you guys next time.