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Normally Podcast: Hegseth Headlines, Tennessee Trends & Kids’ Vaccine Concerns · Normally

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, we are back on normally but showing normally.
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  Speaker 1: It takes, but when the news gets weird.
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  Speaker 2: I am Mary Eperham and I'm Carol Markowitz, Mary Catherine.
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  Speaker 3: Have you mailed your holiday cards yet?
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  Speaker 1: I'm not doing them?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 4: Are you really not doing them? I like your Christmas card.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, but I saved my Christmas cards. I save
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  Speaker 1: my sanity by saving my Christmas cards for only when
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  Speaker 1: I have a baby. At this point, so I think we're.
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  Speaker 4: The people demand a Christmas card.
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  Speaker 1: I used them as a birth announcement for two of
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  Speaker 1: my kids and then I was like, oh, I got yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so for now off the plate. But my second child
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  Speaker 1: has asked if she could assist in a in a
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  Speaker 1: Christmas card project, so we it may come back at
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  Speaker 1: some point.
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  Speaker 2: All right, okay, I am rooting for it personally, or like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you could just go rogue and like Halloween card.
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  Speaker 1: You know that's true, you.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like that would really work for you.
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  Speaker 2: I send a card and I I haven't even do it.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't even ordered them yet.
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  Speaker 2: And I tweeted about this today, but like I had
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  Speaker 2: two waiting for me Monday after Thanksgiving in my mailbox
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  Speaker 2: and it was from Mary Chistain and Nikki Neely, and
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  Speaker 2: I was like, you guys are a little two type
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  Speaker 2: a for me to have it all together like this.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm gonna ask Mary Catherine. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure she hasn't ordered hers either yet.
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  Speaker 4: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Even when I did them every year, they arrived on
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  Speaker 1: like the teenth, and I would just not genuinely no,
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  Speaker 1: just try to get them there by Christmas.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's they're there by New Years. It's a win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I say.
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  Speaker 4: All right, let's get into the news. We you know,
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  Speaker 4: talked about some.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff in the last episode, and we just want to
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  Speaker 2: follow up on on that news story that we discussed,
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  Speaker 2: the Pete Hegseeth double tap second strike Venezuelan drug boat story.
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  Speaker 2: So when we last left you, the Washington Post had
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  Speaker 2: had an article called Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat
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  Speaker 2: strike official say kill them all. And the story is
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  Speaker 2: that Hegseth said kill them all, and apparently a commander
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  Speaker 2: took that to mean, even when they're clinging to the
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  Speaker 2: boat survivors of the first strike, you should take them
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  Speaker 2: out on the second strike.
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  Speaker 3: The New York Times of all outlets which was really.
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  Speaker 2: Surprising, had sort of a defense of Hegseth about this
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  Speaker 2: and said he never said anything like that. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: both stories are anonymously sourced. Everything should be taken with
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  Speaker 2: a grain of salt. I have a hard time believing
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  Speaker 2: anything with this much anonymous sourcing in it, so the
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  Speaker 2: New York Times Rights. According to five US officials who
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  Speaker 2: spoke separately and on the condition of anonymity to discuss
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  Speaker 2: the sensitive matter there's under investigation, mister Hegseth, the head
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  Speaker 2: of the September second attack, ordered a strike that would
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  Speaker 2: kill the people on the boat and destroy the vessel
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  Speaker 2: and its purported cargo of drugs. But each official said
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  Speaker 2: mister Hegseth's directive did not specifically address what should happen
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  Speaker 2: if a first missile turned out to not fully accomplish
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  Speaker 2: all those things, and the official said his order was
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  Speaker 2: not a response to surveillance footage showing that at least
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  Speaker 2: two people on the boat survived the first blast. Now
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  Speaker 2: that's interesting because that's not how I read the Washington
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  Speaker 2: Post story at all, And now rereading it with this information,
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  Speaker 2: I could see where the Washington Post story was super
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  Speaker 2: vague and didn't really say whether heg Seth said kill
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  Speaker 2: them all before the strike began, which is how I
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  Speaker 2: understood it, or whether he said it mid strike or
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  Speaker 2: after the first strike, which is how a lot of
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  Speaker 2: other people understood it.
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  Speaker 3: I have to imagine that's by design. Personally, What do
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  Speaker 3: you think?
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  Speaker 1: Well, a couple things. My smart friend Tom Bevan of
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  Speaker 1: Real Clear Politics noted that the New York Times story
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  Speaker 1: has five sources. The Washington Post had two, so we
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  Speaker 1: do have more people on this. I think, look likely
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  Speaker 1: there's a version of this story that's between Washington Posts,
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  Speaker 1: New York Times, and Pete Hegseth's version. But there was
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  Speaker 1: the initial response from the Pentagon that was like this
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  Speaker 1: is all fake news basically, and then there was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh wait, no, we did hit the vote twice.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: I would like the legal ramifications of the narco terrorism
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  Speaker 1: attacks to be addressed in an adult manner. In general,
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  Speaker 1: we are dealing with Congress, so like that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to happen. They're going to call for hearings and then they're
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  Speaker 1: just going to give a bunch of lectures. But I
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  Speaker 1: wish they would actually engage in this, and I want
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  Speaker 1: the administration to engage it and say this is legal
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  Speaker 1: for these reasons. This is why we're undertaking it. This
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  Speaker 1: is why this wasn't a violation. Right, Yeah, that's better
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  Speaker 1: than meming it on x. We got a little closer
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  Speaker 1: to that. Here's a little bit of Hegseeth speaking to
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  Speaker 1: Trump at the and to the press at the Cabinet
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  Speaker 1: meeting this week.
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  Speaker 5: The thing was on fire. I was exploded in fire
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  Speaker 5: or smoke. You can't see any you got digital there.
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  Speaker 5: This is called the fog of war. This is what
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  Speaker 5: you and the press understand. You sit in your air
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  Speaker 5: conditioned offices, you're up on Capitol Hill, and you nitpick,
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  Speaker 5: and you plant fake stories in the Washington Post about
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  Speaker 5: kill everybody, phrases on anonymous sources, not based in anything,
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  Speaker 5: not based in any truth at all. And then you
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  Speaker 5: want to throw up really irresponsible terms about American heroes,
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  Speaker 5: about the judgment that they made. I wrote a whole
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  Speaker 5: book on this topic. Because of what politicians and the
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  Speaker 5: press does to warfighters. President Trump has empowered commanders, commanders
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  Speaker 5: to do what is necessary, which is dark and difficult
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  Speaker 5: things in the dead of night on behalf of the
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  Speaker 5: American people. We support them, and we will stop the
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  Speaker 5: poisoning of the American people.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump's face as Pete Hegseth is criticizing the press
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  Speaker 2: is so perfect.
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  Speaker 4: He's just like, that's my book.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and like they seemed very comfortable together here. I
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  Speaker 1: think people when they saw the meeting, we're looking for clues,
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  Speaker 1: is like, is the White House upset with Hegseth And
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  Speaker 1: it didn't look like it in this moment. But there
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  Speaker 1: is an interesting thing going on here where Trump is
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  Speaker 1: saying they're basically sort of both disavowing somebody while trying
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  Speaker 1: to sound like they're not so. Trump is like, oh yeah, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: he sits right next to me. The only thing I
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  Speaker 1: know about this is from him, Like he just gives
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  Speaker 1: me the information. I totally trust him.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: HeiG Seth is like, this admiral is great. He was
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  Speaker 1: in charge of all of this. I wasn't even in
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  Speaker 1: the room. But he's awesome and we trust him. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, there is a thing. We're empowering
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  Speaker 1: people to make their own decisions is important. But a
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  Speaker 1: little bit You're like, I wasn't there. This was on him. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: while you're also saying he's amazing, Like there's a weird
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  Speaker 1: dance going on.
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  Speaker 3: Here, right, Yeah, it's yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I think that the people who are hoping that
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  Speaker 2: Trump is gonna throw hag Seth under the bus here
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  Speaker 2: are just it's folly because it's not going to happen.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see Trump saying.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we were too vicious here, and therefore you're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to be fired or have to resign.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't don't think any of that's happening.
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  Speaker 4: Look, your point is a good one that.
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  Speaker 3: They should be clear about the legal ramifications of all
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  Speaker 3: of this. It's look, I'm not a lawyer.
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  Speaker 2: The people that I follow that our lawyers feel pretty
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  Speaker 2: comfortable that these strikes are legal. But if the administration
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  Speaker 2: could give some more clarity on that, I think that
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  Speaker 2: would be a good thing.
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  Speaker 3: All around the.
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  Speaker 4: New York one watching, they'll never be satisfied. It's not like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 4: you guys say that it's legal. That's cool, it's legal.
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  Speaker 1: There.
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  Speaker 3: I gonna say that.
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  Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, where were the Washington Posts
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  Speaker 1: in New York Times when Biden blew up a whole
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  Speaker 1: Afghan family because he was smarting from his terrible Afghanistan withdrawal?
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  Speaker 1: Those things should have been you know, hearing worthy as well.
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  Speaker 1: People should have been held accountable for those things. So
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  Speaker 1: I understand people getting upset. I have no illusions that
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  Speaker 1: I'm like a normal person for having this concern, Like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of normal people are like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: they seem like they're right drug drug dealers on a boat.
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  Speaker 1: That seems fine with me. It's inter national waters. So
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that I am indicative.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Look, you know also Congressman Rand Paul, who has
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  Speaker 2: clashed with the president a lot, and is you know,
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  Speaker 2: libertarian more libertarian member of Congress. He tweeted Coast Guard
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  Speaker 2: records show that prior to the reign of blow them
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  Speaker 2: to Smithereens quote unquote, twenty one percent of boats stopped
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  Speaker 2: off the coast of Venezuela possessed no drugs.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know how.
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  Speaker 2: He tweets this as some sort of criticism of the strikes.
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  Speaker 2: That means eighty percent of the boats have drugs.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's because if one hundred percent of the people
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  Speaker 1: you target you're killing, twenty percent.
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  Speaker 2: Of them might not have had any drugs, right, That's
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but they're not targeting one hundred percent
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  Speaker 2: of the boats, right, So that's where that's where he
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  Speaker 2: loses me and I.
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  Speaker 4: Understand that I'm on the other side of that one.
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  Speaker 1: If you're accidentally killing twenty one percent who are innocent,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem, right, But.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know that they're killing twenty one percent.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't take that to mean that we're killing twenty
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  Speaker 2: one percent at all. I took that to mean the
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  Speaker 2: great majority of boats.
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  Speaker 3: Because we're not just trying all the boats that are
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  Speaker 3: that are in that area. It's a very targeted attacks.
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  Speaker 1: Now, this is true. And another point on your side,
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  Speaker 1: which is the Rubio went up and gave a briefing
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  Speaker 1: about the behind the scenes stuff, which is where you
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  Speaker 1: can present evidence that you can't present in public ostensibly,
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  Speaker 1: and there was quite a bit less complaining after he
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  Speaker 1: went and gave that briefing, which is indicates that what
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  Speaker 1: you're saying that this is very targeted and ameliorates those concerns.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, obviously, if we were destroying all the boats in
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  Speaker 2: the region and twenty percent of them wearess in people,
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  Speaker 2: that would be a problem. But that's not how I
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  Speaker 2: read that. I read that as of all the boats,
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  Speaker 2: eighty percent or carrying drugs and that's quite a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Another note just from the cabinet meeting, because it's fun
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  Speaker 1: to actually listen to the nitty gritty of these things
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  Speaker 1: beyond the sexier story, which is this one in the
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  Speaker 1: politics of the hegsets Trump relationship. Doug Collins at the
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  Speaker 1: VA reported that they have cut the backlog, which is
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  Speaker 1: famously gigantic at the VA for treating veterans, by fifty
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  Speaker 1: seven percent in a year, and that is with a
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  Speaker 1: reduced workforce. Now, I'll shave off a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: that because the government always gives itself more credit than
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  Speaker 1: it deserves. But like, even if you take it down
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  Speaker 1: ten percent, Yeah, that is a huge accomplishment. So appreciate
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  Speaker 1: that that he's been working on that in concert with
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  Speaker 1: heg Seth in many ways because the VA and the
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  Speaker 1: War Department now work together. But that was a cool
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  Speaker 1: thing to hear.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 2: The other story that we covered earlier in the week
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  Speaker 2: was the special election happening in Tennessee. Matt Vennepps versus
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  Speaker 2: Aten Ben and Ben had made a lot of noise
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  Speaker 2: and people thought that the Democrat might win this seat.
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  Speaker 2: Matt Vanepps, the Republican did end up winning rights Roger L. Simon,
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  Speaker 2: who lives in Tennessee. The possibility that Ben would win
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  Speaker 2: in a district that Donald Trump won by twenty two
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  Speaker 2: points in twenty twenty four had Democrats and all the
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  Speaker 2: ships in their legacy media ce salivating. Would they be
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  Speaker 2: going for a third pick up after New Jersey and Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: but this time in a certifiably red state. Better yet,
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  Speaker 2: Miss Ben was a progressives progressive already dubbed Tennessee's AOC.
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  Speaker 2: This could be a national trend. Of course, VENEPS ended
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  Speaker 2: up winning by a relatively comfortable nine percent.
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  Speaker 4: Is it a sign? Is it a sign of anything?
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  Speaker 3: Is every election supposed to be a sign?
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  Speaker 1: Look, you can always overread special elections because they are
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  Speaker 1: sort of weird. But there is a special election trend,
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  Speaker 1: and the special election trend shows over about five different
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  Speaker 1: special elections that Democrats are outperforming Kamala's numbers by thirteen
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  Speaker 1: to eighteen percent.
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  Speaker 3: So Kamala so like.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: One it says that Kamala is bad. Two it says
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  Speaker 1: that there might be a real environmental problem here for
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  Speaker 1: Republicans who are not responding to something that the voters
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  Speaker 1: need to hear. Three it says that the left is
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: very fired up, and I think Bain probably got a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. I don't know whether her leftism worked against
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  Speaker 1: her or for her in this red district, because on
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: one hand, you rile up a bunch of lefties and
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  Speaker 1: get them out to vote in a special election, which
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  Speaker 1: is weird and generally low turnout, although the turnout numbers
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  Speaker 1: are really close to twenty twenty two for this special election,
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  Speaker 1: so it wasn't that low turnout here. What I think
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  Speaker 1: is probably good for Republicans is that lefties are going
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  Speaker 1: to be like, we just needed to be more left
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  Speaker 1: than afton bag, and then they'll start recruiting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tennessee's AOC. I'm not sure about that. That's really
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  Speaker 2: gonna fly anywhere, not even in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: So I liked that at the very end. Remember she
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  Speaker 1: had she had a famous viral clip in her OPO
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  Speaker 1: about hating Nashville and hating country music, and then in
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  Speaker 1: her concession speech she shows up in like a newdi suit,
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  Speaker 1: like a Rhyanstone grand Ole Opry suit with like big
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: padded shoulders and done up like a country star. And
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  Speaker 1: I was like, too little, too late, girl, you should
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  Speaker 1: have done this earlier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hate country music in Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not a great quote, not a great right.
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  Speaker 2: And Scott Jennings pointed out on CNN that she also
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  Speaker 2: didn't walk back any of her previous comments, like, I'll
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  Speaker 2: this has become this thing where when a Democrat says
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  Speaker 2: something before they run for office, or maybe when they
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: were in a different office, it's no longer admissible because
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: they don't run on it in this campaign. But if
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: you're saying you want to defund the police, you know,
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  Speaker 2: four years ago as a private citizen, that still counts.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: Like the idea that like, oh you said something as
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  Speaker 2: a private citizen, but you're not saying it as a
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  Speaker 2: as a running of candidate, that nobody cares.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, she was a far lefty and Tennessee said no,
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  Speaker 2: thank you to that.
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  Speaker 1: So but I would say Republicans just beware, man. The
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  Speaker 1: trend here and the swings don't look great. No for
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  Speaker 1: the midterms.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Republicans should maybe focus on that a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. We'll be watching because that's what we do here.
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  Speaker 4: So we'll be right.
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  Speaker 2: Back with more on normally and the mRNA vaccine, was
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  Speaker 2: it necessary?
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  Speaker 3: For children. Yes, we're still mad Bro, be right back.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we were back on normally with some news that
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  Speaker 1: we are still mad about Bro. Really for real. This
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  Speaker 1: is over the last weekend of twenty of November and
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five a memo circulated through the Federal Food
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: and Drug Administration that outlined that ven A Prisod, who
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: of whom we are a fan, had ordered that they
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: go through the vaccine Adverse Reactions database and look at
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: deaths possibly associated among children with administration of the vaccine.
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  Speaker 1: And they did this because at one point another doctor
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  Speaker 1: and Venaprisod had said, like, look, there were real safety
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: signals on myo carditis for young people that we were ignoring.
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  Speaker 1: Let's actually look at the data and these individual cases
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  Speaker 1: and determine what happened here. And this intern nal memo
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  Speaker 1: suggests that ten of those Venaporsad says, conservatively speaking, because
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: they were trying to be very fair about what information
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: they had and what they could deem was causal ten
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: deaths in children associated with the vaccine, which, of course
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  Speaker 1: in many places was mandated right for children for many
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: activities was mandated for children, and that this information was
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: something they either hid, or weren't interested in, or refused
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to contemplate.
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  Speaker 2: Right, the big problem of the vaccine for kids, the
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: COVID vaccine for kids, is that it wasn't like other
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: vaccines where by the time the kid got it, we
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: still believed it would stop spread. Yes, by the time
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: kids were eligible to get that vaccine, we knew it
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: didn't stop spread. So it wasn't like, oh, you have
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: to get it to protect the community.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: It was absolutely not about that at all.
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  Speaker 2: And kids risk of dying of COVID was statistically zero,
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  Speaker 2: and as you and I's saying at the time, you
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: can't bring zero down any further. So when kids were
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: getting the vaccine and then the booster, it was like,
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  Speaker 2: you're still at zero. You remained in the same place
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  Speaker 2: that you were before you got this vaccine. The dishonesty,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: the dishonesty is just it's gonna be so long before
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  Speaker 2: we recover from this. People just don't trust anything from
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: the government anymore. They don't trust anything from anywhere anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And it's terrible. Low trust society is a dangerous society,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where we are right now.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and of course the reaction but from many in
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  Speaker 1: mainstream organizations and from all the public health folks on
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  Speaker 1: x is to say, oh, Ven Aprosod has always been
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  Speaker 1: a skeptic, and he's bad for all these reasons. They
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  Speaker 1: had analyzed ninety six deaths and found ten related. The
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  Speaker 1: memo notes this is a profound revelation. For the first time,
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  Speaker 1: the US FDA will acknowledge that COVID nineteen vaccines have
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  Speaker 1: killed American children. Healthy young children who faced tremendously low
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  Speaker 1: risk of death were coerced at the behest of the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration via school and work mandates to receive a
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  Speaker 1: vaccine that could result than death. In many cases, such
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  Speaker 1: mandates were harmful, and he said it's difficult to even
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  Speaker 1: read through these cases when you think that this is
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  Speaker 1: the conclusion you must come to.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: He also notes that these agencies had information while this
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  Speaker 1: was happening that they were not disclosing. These agencies did
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  Speaker 1: not quickly attempt mitigation strategies, such as spacing doses apart
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  Speaker 1: or lowering doses. Worst, the FDA delayed acknowledgment of the
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  Speaker 1: safety signal until after it could extend marketing authorization to
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  Speaker 1: younger boys twelve to fifteen, which is the demographic in
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  Speaker 1: which this was the most problematic.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just thinking back to that time where any
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  Speaker 2: conversation about this was simply not permitted, and we kept
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  Speaker 2: finding that.
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  Speaker 3: The CDC was lying to us in case after case.
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  Speaker 3: I remember David's wy writing.
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  Speaker 2: About the myocarditis story and it being I think I
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  Speaker 2: believe he wrote it a vice, but it was just
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  Speaker 2: not hitting the mainstream at all, And it still is
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  Speaker 2: not really in the main stream, and it's where that
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: loss of trust comes from.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and it remains the case that people in the
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  Speaker 1: mainstream and sort of left leaning public health figures still
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  Speaker 1: say that anyone who notices you'll notice a theme, like
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  Speaker 1: with the Minnesota fraud, if you notice the safety signal,
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  Speaker 1: if you point out that these things are real, you're
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  Speaker 1: the problem with trust. Now, you're the problem with trust
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  Speaker 1: because you're not reckoning with the facts.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we need, which used to be with science
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  Speaker 2: was about facts right, and getting to a conclusion, not
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  Speaker 2: starting with a conclusion and altering everything on the way there.
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  Speaker 1: And giving people information that they can use to make
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  Speaker 1: real decisions. A lot of people in this cohort of
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  Speaker 1: young men, mothers of young men would have liked to
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  Speaker 1: have had this information.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And taking everything away from them until they did what
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  Speaker 2: you demanded of them also so wrong. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: we're ever going to get a real reckoning on this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I love what's happening now with our health agencies.
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  Speaker 2: I think that there we have the people that we
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  Speaker 2: trust in them. But I'd love to see a bigger investigation,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a bigger look into what really happened in so many
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  Speaker 2: of these cases.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad to have an Aprosad there. I do think
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he's a voice of reason. And of course in his
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: memo he says, I acknowledge fully that vaccines are really
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  Speaker 1: good in all of these ways and help. But he
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: was like, certain medicines you give to certain people with
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: certain ailments and certain risk profiles, right, you don't give
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  Speaker 1: them to other people where you might cause harm, right, period?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Or you know the risk profile is important.
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  Speaker 2: I remember at the time, you know, where the Gavin
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Newsom's were like all vaccines are good, and you take
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: all of them. I was like, so give your kids
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the malaria vaccine? Like why not give them all of them?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Like why are you stopping at just COVID? Like continue on.
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  Speaker 3: With all the vaccines that have no reason to be
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  Speaker 3: given to these kids.
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  Speaker 1: Still mad, bro, But we're having the conversation even if
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: people are incapable in many sectors.
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  Speaker 4: That's right.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: We will be right back with more on nor Mali.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: No football segment this time. I know you all loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be talking the Dells giving out two hundred and
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  Speaker 2: fifty dollars to millions of kids to change their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Be right back, all right now, time for some good
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  Speaker 1: news on normally. I love this story. So Michael, the
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  Speaker 1: CEO of Dell Technologies, they have committed six point two
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  Speaker 1: five billion to fund investment accounts for some twenty five
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  Speaker 1: million American children. The couple's donation, this is in CNBC reporting,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: will be the largest ever devoted to American children, according
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  Speaker 1: to invest America, a nonprofit advocacy group partnered with the Dells.
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  Speaker 1: Now this money is so, it's two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: per kid for twenty five million kids. It's going directly
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: into a tax advantaged savings and investment account called a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Trump account created created in the One Big Beautiful Bill,
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  Speaker 1: and the idea behind them is to give a bunch
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: of kids access to the idea of saving an investment
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: to encourage saving an investment. And while I don't always
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  Speaker 1: love a government mechanism for such things, name yeah, I
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like the idea that this could give more people a
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  Speaker 1: start doing this kind of thing. Now there's a there's
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars credit coming from taxpayers that is going
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: into these accounts, but the dells, of their own volition
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  Speaker 1: are throwing into fifty and I love that part unabashedly.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: This seems smart and innovative. And I know the lefties
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: are going to be like, you should give it to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: whatever climate change organization. It's like, no, let's give it
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: straight to the kids.
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  Speaker 4: That's straight to the Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And actually this reminded me of that time that the
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  Speaker 2: I forgot her name, the New York Times editorial person
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  Speaker 2: was on TV and said that Michael Bloomberg could give
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: every American a million dollars because he had spent three
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollars or something on his presidential race. And
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: it's like, no, six point two five billion dollars, twenty
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  Speaker 2: five million children two hundred and fifty dollars each. But look,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: you know people are saying, is this going to matter?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Is this going to make any difference? In the lives
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  Speaker 2: of these kids. And I think those people need to
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  Speaker 2: look up compound interest, which is what these people are
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  Speaker 2: relying on to make a difference in these kids, it'll
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: be invested for them, that money will grow. They can
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: potentially use it for retirement. Yeah, they're probably not going
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to use it when when they're eighteen years old it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: going to be further down the line.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Well, and they can only be they can be used
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  Speaker 1: in like low risk US stock indices. And Dell himself,
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  Speaker 1: I think started his company with like one thousand dollars
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of capital, right Yeah, And to me, this is such
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  Speaker 1: a beautiful story about wealth generation, which I know that
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  Speaker 1: our liberal friends think is a myth. But this six
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  Speaker 1: point two five billion dollars would not exist if Rifldell
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  Speaker 1: hadn't created something that was worth six point twenty five
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: billion dollars and then some. And so he's able to
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: give a little capital fund to twenty five million American
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: children who might get a taste for building and investing
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: in saving and think when I'm older and I have
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  Speaker 1: access to this, what could I do with it? They
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: don't get access to it until they're eighteen, and then
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I think there are restrictions on how you can take
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: it out and what you can use it for, but
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you can use it for like starting businesses, buying a house,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: and it just seems like of all the things you
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: could throw money at, this seems like it encourages the
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  Speaker 1: right stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it, but if Michael Bloomberg wants to
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: give us each a million dollars, will take it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: He can do that too well.
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