Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 13th December 2024
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon, It's Friday, the thirteenth of December twenty twenty four.
- 0:12Speaker 1: I'm lucky for some Welcome to the UK column News.
- 0:14Speaker 2: I'm your host.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Mike Grumson joined me today in the studio Brian Gerrish,
- 0:18Speaker 1: and by videolink we have Debbie Evans and Mark Anderson
- 0:22Speaker 1: and a special guest later on in the program. Now
- 0:25Speaker 1: we're going to get straight on here with the fantastic
- 0:28Speaker 1: news that, of course we have this massive backlog in
- 0:31Speaker 1: the justice system at the moment, so seventy three thousand
- 0:35Speaker 1: cases in the backlog, all in the Q willing to
- 0:39Speaker 1: be dealt with, and that's double the levels pre pandemic
- 0:43Speaker 1: in inverted commas. Now, of course, the so called pandemic
- 0:47Speaker 1: is the excuse for this, but it's not the only one.
- 0:50Speaker 1: That's not the only reason, because in twenty nineteen the
- 0:54Speaker 1: British regime of the day decided to cut court setting days,
- 0:58Speaker 1: and of course that made matters already bad, and then
- 1:02Speaker 1: the so called pandemic made matters even worse, so that
- 1:04Speaker 1: by twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two they had
- 1:07Speaker 1: uncapped a number of days that judges were allowed to
- 1:10Speaker 1: sit to try to deal with the situation, but of
- 1:12Speaker 1: course that the damage was already done by that stage.
- 1:15Speaker 1: And then following the plandemic, there was the barrister strike.
- 1:21Speaker 1: This was involving criminal barristers who wanted better pay through
- 1:24Speaker 1: the legal aid scheme, and of course government of the
- 1:27Speaker 1: day wouldn't give them what they wanted, so that made
- 1:30Speaker 1: matters even worse. And of course in the meantime there
- 1:34Speaker 1: are even more cases because of course there are more
- 1:37Speaker 1: people in the country because the British regime has increased,
- 1:41Speaker 1: but also the British regime has increased the number of
- 1:44Speaker 1: police on the streets. That's resulted in more arrests. But
- 1:47Speaker 1: they haven't increased the number of barristers. They haven't increased
- 1:50Speaker 1: the number of judges, and they haven't increased the amount
- 1:52Speaker 1: of court time. So we shouldn't be making any mistake
- 1:55Speaker 1: about this. This is another engineered crisis and skin of
- 2:00Speaker 1: it is pretty astronomical. This is driving public demands for
- 2:04Speaker 1: a fix, and we're doing that by abusing victims even further,
- 2:09Speaker 1: and victims of serious crime even further, by for example,
- 2:13Speaker 1: rip cases, for example, taking.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Four years to even come to court.
- 2:17Speaker 3: I mean, that's just obscene, that's obscene, Mike, and then
- 2:20Speaker 3: we have the family court hearings where there is no
- 2:24Speaker 3: justice for many families whatsoever.
- 2:27Speaker 1: Indeed, so of course they're going to fix this problem,
- 2:30Speaker 1: aren't they. And who are they're going to bring to
- 2:33Speaker 1: fix the problem? Well, it is of course Lord Brian
- 2:36Speaker 1: Levison well known in the country because of the Levison
- 2:40Speaker 1: Inquiry into the British Press. But of course, a couple
- 2:46Speaker 1: of years ago, in fact it was twenty fifteen, was
- 2:48Speaker 1: immediately after the Leveson Inquiry. He was looking at efficiencies
- 2:53Speaker 1: in the court system even then, So this is something
- 2:55Speaker 1: that's been going on for ten years at the very least,
- 2:59Speaker 1: and some that he was aware of, something that successive
- 3:02Speaker 1: governments have been aware of and so on. But he
- 3:05Speaker 1: was looking at digital court reform at that time. But
- 3:08Speaker 1: what's the target this time, Well, the target is the
- 3:11Speaker 1: jury and this is what they want to see in courts,
- 3:15Speaker 1: empty jury chairs. We don't need juries in the UK,
- 3:18Speaker 1: We don't ever want juries in the UK, and so
- 3:23Speaker 1: that's one of the proposals. And the way that they're
- 3:25Speaker 1: going to implement this is that at the moment, of course,
- 3:27Speaker 1: we have magistrates courts which are there to deal with
- 3:31Speaker 1: supposedly the most insignificant criminal activity, and magistrates having just
- 3:37Speaker 1: been allowed to increase their sentences up to a year.
- 3:41Speaker 1: So that's any criminal activity that might be subject to
- 3:45Speaker 1: a sanction of a year in prison. And we've got
- 3:48Speaker 1: the Crime court which sees more serious crimes and those
- 3:52Speaker 1: would be generally heard in front of a jury. So
- 3:55Speaker 1: one of the things that Levison is talking about, or
- 3:57Speaker 1: they're trying to encourage Levison to look at, is the
- 3:59Speaker 1: potential of putting a third tier in between those two,
- 4:02Speaker 1: which would be heard in front of a judge and
- 4:04Speaker 1: two magistrates, and those of course would not have juries.
- 4:09Speaker 1: So more and more jury trials having the juries removed
- 4:12Speaker 1: and just judges.
- 4:14Speaker 3: And again a mike. And of course this is the
- 4:16Speaker 3: family court system, where you effectively have the star Chamber
- 4:20Speaker 3: with just a judge, no jury, usually no press. So
- 4:25Speaker 3: the precedent where they want to go is the family court,
- 4:29Speaker 3: is the family courts, and that's where the children are
- 4:32Speaker 3: taken away from their families, and nobody can do anything
- 4:35Speaker 3: about it because of judge rules, right.
- 4:38Speaker 1: And the other thing that Levis will be looking at
- 4:40Speaker 1: is increasing magistrates powers even further to give them the
- 4:44Speaker 1: ability to sentence for longer than a year, and maybe
- 4:46Speaker 1: do away with this mid tier court system altogether and
- 4:49Speaker 1: just put that all into the magistrates court. Now, the
- 4:52Speaker 1: fact is that, of course this is nothing whatever to
- 4:55Speaker 1: do with speeding up justice. This is only this is
- 4:59Speaker 1: only about attacking the idea of juries. And well this
- 5:02Speaker 1: is why, because you know, there are no prison spaces
- 5:06Speaker 1: for the backlog, and no intention of creating sufficient prison
- 5:10Speaker 1: spaces for the backlogs. Although they're talking about building more
- 5:13Speaker 1: prisons and willnot they're not building them fast enough. They're
- 5:16Speaker 1: not building enough of them in order to meet the
- 5:18Speaker 1: needs of this so called backlog. So if they speed
- 5:22Speaker 1: up the justices, puce even more pressure on the prison system,
- 5:25Speaker 1: so they're not going to be able to put them
- 5:26Speaker 1: in prison anyway.
- 5:27Speaker 2: So this is not.
- 5:28Speaker 1: About, you know, getting rid of a backlog, is about
- 5:32Speaker 1: creating a problem in order to provide.
- 5:33Speaker 2: A solution, and the solution is getting rid of juries.
- 5:37Speaker 1: And why are they attacking juries, Well, because juries, this
- 5:41Speaker 1: is a fundamental constitutional protection in this country. Juries have
- 5:45Speaker 1: the power to overrule bad law through the process called
- 5:48Speaker 1: jury nullification. And of course, if you create a middle
- 5:51Speaker 1: tier of courts which don't have juries, and only have judges.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Judges will not consider overruling parliamentary sovereignty and inverted commas.
- 6:03Speaker 1: They will simply rule based on the law. And the
- 6:06Speaker 1: problem there is what we also make the point that
- 6:09Speaker 1: judges never tell juries about jury nullification. So what is
- 6:14Speaker 1: happening here is that more and more protections of and
- 6:18Speaker 1: out of control dictatorial government are being removed from the
- 6:23Speaker 1: people by the removal of juries. And this is really important.
- 6:26Speaker 1: And the other thing to note here in the whole
- 6:28Speaker 1: dig dig sorry digitization of the court system process that
- 6:33Speaker 1: Levison started in twenty fifteen, i'll just highlight this from
- 6:36Speaker 1: the Law Society algorithm use in the Criminal Justice System report,
- 6:41Speaker 1: because this is always in the background, the use of
- 6:43Speaker 1: using AI and algorithms to help make judicial decisions, and
- 6:47Speaker 1: this takes it even to a worse state. And this
- 6:50Speaker 1: was what the Law Society was saying in twenty nineteen,
- 6:52Speaker 1: but it's something we've got to consider when we're talking
- 6:54Speaker 1: about this. They can make law enforcement in the administration
- 6:58Speaker 1: of justice more efficient and consist and that's the use
- 7:00Speaker 1: of algorithms. But using algorithms without questioning them or explaining
- 7:04Speaker 1: them to the public could lead the decisions that threaten
- 7:06Speaker 1: human rights and undermine public trust and the justice system.
- 7:10Speaker 1: The direction of travel here, Brian is really horrendous.
- 7:14Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, because the one thing that an algorithm isn't
- 7:17Speaker 3: going to have, there's any a form of empathy or compassion.
- 7:20Speaker 3: So if you want to know what AI is going
- 7:23Speaker 3: to bring, it's going to be ruthless, draconian justice, that's
- 7:28Speaker 3: what it's going to bring.
- 7:30Speaker 2: And no juries.
- 7:31Speaker 1: So juries, yeah, Debbie, let's come to you then. And
- 7:35Speaker 1: the question of m RNA.
- 7:39Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, good afternoon everyone, lovely to be here, and
- 7:42Speaker 4: it's a very cold afternoon here in Cornwall. But I
- 7:45Speaker 4: want to warm you up with June Raine's words as
- 7:48Speaker 4: if I could. On the last MHRA board meeting that
- 7:51Speaker 4: has not yet been published on YouTube. She said, and
- 7:54Speaker 4: I quote there's more work on mRNA platform technology, not
- 7:59Speaker 4: just for cancer vaccines, but for personalized medicines and guidance,
- 8:04Speaker 4: which will be out there for public consultation quite soon.
- 8:09Speaker 4: The efforts to drive forward innovation are moving ahead quite strongly. Also,
- 8:15Speaker 4: Ed Dowd, in a recent interview, estimated that globally there
- 8:18Speaker 4: had been between seven point three and fifteen million deaths
- 8:23Speaker 4: from the COVID nineteen injection and twenty nine to sixty
- 8:26Speaker 4: million disabled, with another five hundred to nine hundred million
- 8:31Speaker 4: vaccine injured, and still they're.
- 8:33Speaker 5: Ramping up mRNA.
- 8:35Speaker 4: So I want to take you back to a report
- 8:38Speaker 4: that we did on the UK column News thirty first
- 8:41Speaker 4: of May twenty twenty four, where we talked about Kathleene Carrico,
- 8:45Speaker 4: who was the joint winner of the Nobel Prize with
- 8:47Speaker 4: Professor Drew Weissman. So please go and have a look
- 8:51Speaker 4: at that, because I want to take a look at
- 8:53Speaker 4: Professor Drew Weisman. Here's the press release that was released
- 8:57Speaker 4: from the Nobel Prize announcing the award to both of
- 9:00Speaker 4: them for their work in enabling development of effective mRNA
- 9:05Speaker 4: vaccines for COVID nineteen. So let's look at Professor Drew Weisman.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Let's look at the Pearlman School of Medicine, because he's
- 9:13Speaker 4: there pictured.
- 9:14Speaker 5: In the middle.
- 9:15Speaker 4: I've just arrowed him there, not a very big picture,
- 9:17Speaker 4: so we'll blow his picture up. Here's a larger frame
- 9:20Speaker 4: of him and you can see that he is the
- 9:23Speaker 4: Professor of Vaccine Research and Infections Diseased Division. He's got
- 9:28Speaker 4: so many awards I would have to scroll down for
- 9:31Speaker 4: at least probably a minute for you to see all
- 9:34Speaker 4: of the awards that he's received. And purely by chance,
- 9:38Speaker 4: a few days ago, I happened to catch a live
- 9:41Speaker 4: the Future of Health the Nobel Week Dialogue twenty twenty
- 9:45Speaker 4: four lecture. This was held in Stockholm, and who was
- 9:49Speaker 4: attending well none other than Professor Drew Weissman, and I
- 9:52Speaker 4: was very interested to hear what he was having to say.
- 9:56Speaker 4: How long did it actually take from the release of
- 9:59Speaker 4: the sequet once to making the vaccine because there was
- 10:03Speaker 4: a race on Let's listen.
- 10:07Speaker 6: So you developed with Katie Kerrico the mRNA vaccine for
- 10:11Speaker 6: COVID nineteen, and that's built on decades of research on mRNA.
- 10:17Speaker 6: But how long did it take you to create the
- 10:20Speaker 6: actual vaccine for COVID nineteen.
- 10:25Speaker 7: So honestly, it took about fifteen minutes to design the
- 10:29Speaker 7: vaccine once the sequence was released. But we made a
- 10:35Speaker 7: bunch of different variants because we weren't sure which one
- 10:38Speaker 7: would work best. But the advantage of RNA is you
- 10:42Speaker 7: just need the sequence, and once you've got the sequence,
- 10:45Speaker 7: you can make a vaccine.
- 10:49Speaker 4: You just need the sequence. We made a bunch of variants,
- 10:53Speaker 4: so Let's look at the Professor Weisman's laboratory and here
- 10:57Speaker 4: it is welcome to Professor Weisman's laboratory. And you can
- 10:59Speaker 4: see the sign on the front Drew Weisman's lab rocks.
- 11:04Speaker 4: But what does it do? What does it actually do?
- 11:06Speaker 4: So the next line will tell you, really very briefly
- 11:09Speaker 4: that that studies nuclear side modified mr NA and lipid
- 11:14Speaker 4: nanoparticles l NP therapeutics. But how big is this lab?
- 11:18Speaker 4: How big has it got? Let's listening on that.
- 11:22Speaker 6: You know your lab, it's astonishing, astonishing how many diseases
- 11:32Speaker 6: you're working on right now? I think in the last
- 11:35Speaker 6: year your lab tripled in size. Could you give us
- 11:38Speaker 6: a few examples of the of what you're working on
- 11:43Speaker 6: the diseases you're.
- 11:45Speaker 8: Yes, So.
- 11:46Speaker 7: We think of virus vaccines as there are easy ones
- 11:51Speaker 7: and there are difficult ones. So HCV, influenza, HIV, malaria,
- 11:57Speaker 7: TB are difficult. But we've on beyond just standard infetious
- 12:02Speaker 7: disease vaccines. We're working on vaccines for autoimmune diseases, vaccines
- 12:09Speaker 7: that turn off specific immune responses. We're working on in
- 12:14Speaker 7: vivo gene therapies. So what that means is instead of
- 12:18Speaker 7: taking cells out of a person's body, which is difficult
- 12:23Speaker 7: and expensive. We do the gene therapy in the body.
- 12:27Speaker 7: We direct the lipin nanoparticles to the bone, marrow stem cells,
- 12:32Speaker 7: or the liver or the heart or whatever organ you're treating,
- 12:36Speaker 7: and you deliver cast nine gene editing that can fix
- 12:40Speaker 7: the genetic defects. So my dream five years from now,
- 12:46Speaker 7: hopefully is to go somewhere, probably in Africa, but anywhere
- 12:51Speaker 7: in the world with an igloo cooler full of RNA
- 12:56Speaker 7: LNPs that will cure sickle cell anemia with the single injection.
- 13:01Speaker 8: And I think that's possible.
- 13:04Speaker 7: Gene therapy therapeutics using RNA is in the body. You
- 13:09Speaker 7: just give the RNA LNPs and they do the work
- 13:13Speaker 7: in the body, and that's critical.
- 13:20Speaker 4: So I don't know. Gentlemen, I'm sure you're going to
- 13:22Speaker 4: want to comment on this because this video was only
- 13:25Speaker 4: literally it was broadcast a couple of days ago, so
- 13:28Speaker 4: this is right up to date. But before I let
- 13:31Speaker 4: you comment, there's more. There's one more video clip, and
- 13:34Speaker 4: I want you to take pay special attention to Pan vaccines.
- 13:38Speaker 4: And also he didn't really answer the question of what
- 13:41Speaker 4: was coming through his laboratory that had tripled in size,
- 13:44Speaker 4: and I want you to take notice of AVM flu.
- 13:47Speaker 4: Perhaps you're gonna you're gonna hear You're going to hear
- 13:50Speaker 4: cattle milk mentioned perhaps as well. So for this final
- 13:54Speaker 4: clip from Professor Drew Weissman, have a listen and take note.
- 14:00Speaker 6: Things from your website on the on some of the
- 14:02Speaker 6: other things you're working on HIV, herpes, limes disease, avian flu, neurovirus, ebola,
- 14:10Speaker 6: and you're also working then on on AI tools as
- 14:14Speaker 6: well to help with discovery. It's un and and the
- 14:20Speaker 6: idea of pan vaccines too. Do you want to say
- 14:23Speaker 6: something about the idea the idea there vaccines for multiple diseases.
- 14:29Speaker 7: Yes, So if we look at pandemics, most viral pandemics
- 14:37Speaker 7: have been caused by influenza and coronaviruses.
- 14:41Speaker 8: The issues with both of those is they have animal reservoirs.
- 14:45Speaker 7: And we never know what the next transfer crossover is
- 14:50Speaker 7: gonna be. So for influenza, we see bird flu is
- 14:55Speaker 7: now infecting cattle and cattle milk. We see corona viruses
- 15:00Speaker 7: are constantly crossing over. So instead of making a new
- 15:05Speaker 7: vaccine every time a virus crosses over, our idea is
- 15:09Speaker 7: that we make a pan rus vaccine, one that treats
- 15:14Speaker 7: all influenza viruses, so no matter what crosses over from
- 15:20Speaker 7: a bird, from a pig, from a chicken, from whatever,
- 15:25Speaker 7: people will be protected.
- 15:27Speaker 8: And the same with coronaviruses.
- 15:29Speaker 7: We make a vaccine that protects against all coronaviruses capable
- 15:35Speaker 7: of crossing over from bats. Then one vaccine either treats
- 15:40Speaker 7: the next infection or prevents it from ever happening.
- 15:47Speaker 4: So there you have it. Are you feeling confident I'm
- 15:50Speaker 4: not over to you, gentlemen?
- 15:52Speaker 1: Well, Debbi, my first question is how did the humanity
- 15:55Speaker 1: survive over the last fifty sixty thousand years with all
- 15:59Speaker 1: these coronaviruses constantly crossing over from every possible animal species.
- 16:04Speaker 1: The entire human species should have been wiped out darkies
- 16:07Speaker 1: ago with mr and a vaccination.
- 16:11Speaker 4: One hundred percent, Mike, And that's how ridiculous and how
- 16:15Speaker 4: dangerous this is becoming. But there's going to be more
- 16:18Speaker 4: about mRNA coming up later in the program.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Thank you, Debbie.
- 16:25Speaker 3: Okay, Recovering from that segment, I actually said I thought
- 16:28Speaker 3: the man was mad while the video was going on.
- 16:31Speaker 3: Of course, the audience couldn't hear that, but I thought
- 16:33Speaker 3: he was utterly mad. Academically he's probably extremely bright, but
- 16:37Speaker 3: is he mad in my opinion, yes, well more madness
- 16:40Speaker 3: in the world because Syria has fallen. But everybody now
- 16:45Speaker 3: is shifted onto the next target, and of course the
- 16:48Speaker 3: next target is around that's where we need the bloodshed.
- 16:51Speaker 3: So the BBC is leading the charge. Here's the headline,
- 16:55Speaker 3: where next for it round now that its axis of
- 16:58Speaker 3: resistance is shattered. This is a very long interactive article
- 17:03Speaker 3: which I'm not going to go into, but it's very glossy.
- 17:05Speaker 3: But I'm going to put on the top that you
- 17:07Speaker 3: can just read the glee as the BBC is ramping
- 17:11Speaker 3: up the anti Iran propaganda. This is the journalist Caroline Hawley.
- 17:17Speaker 3: Now she is a very very experienced Middle East correspondent.
- 17:22Speaker 3: She's written lots of articles. But look at how she
- 17:26Speaker 3: begins here amid the shattered glass and trampled flags, posters
- 17:30Speaker 3: of Iran Supreme Leader live ripped on the floor of
- 17:34Speaker 3: the Uranian embassy and Damascus, there are torn pictures to
- 17:38Speaker 3: the former leader of Lebanon's has Bottom movement, Hassan Hasrala,
- 17:43Speaker 3: who was killed in an Israeli air striking beir Route
- 17:46Speaker 3: in September. She is lapping it up, and of course,
- 17:49Speaker 3: the whole purpose of this article is to ramp up
- 17:53Speaker 3: the idea of war and bloodshed with Iran. But I'm
- 17:57Speaker 3: saying to the public today, when I read this article,
- 18:00Speaker 3: some think called my eye and it just acted as
- 18:04Speaker 3: a focal point for saying this lady was deceiving the public.
- 18:08Speaker 3: So let's just have a look at the key quote.
- 18:11Speaker 3: We'll just bring that on screen. All the dominoes have
- 18:14Speaker 3: been falling, says James Jeffrey, a former US diplomat and
- 18:18Speaker 3: deputy National Security Advisor who now works at the non
- 18:22Speaker 3: partisan Wilson's Center think tank. Now, is this a lie,
- 18:27Speaker 3: I don't know, or are we actually being led to
- 18:30Speaker 3: believe that this experienced BBC journalist does not know what
- 18:35Speaker 3: non partisan means. Let's listen to the Wilson Center talking
- 18:40Speaker 3: about themselves and we'll see how non partisan't they are.
- 18:46Speaker 9: What's important to us and the way that we approach
- 18:48Speaker 9: our work is that people can come here from around
- 18:52Speaker 9: the world from both sides of the political aisle. There's
- 18:55Speaker 9: a lot of talk about developing consensus. I'm actually that
- 18:58Speaker 9: interested in consensus. I'm interested in constructive disagreement. You have
- 19:03Speaker 9: to mobilize ideas and debates so that people can sort
- 19:07Speaker 9: of do them and figure out what the radi answers
- 19:09Speaker 9: are and figure out the best policy that serves America's
- 19:13Speaker 9: interests around there.
- 19:17Speaker 3: So to the viewers and listeners, did you get it?
- 19:20Speaker 3: What they are about is what is best for America's interests.
- 19:24Speaker 3: There's nothing nonpart isan about it. This is absolutely for
- 19:29Speaker 3: America's interests and anything that gets in the way of
- 19:32Speaker 3: American's interest is going to be invaded or trampled into
- 19:37Speaker 3: the ground. So for the BBC to be telling us
- 19:40Speaker 3: that their article is formed around non partisan opinion is
- 19:44Speaker 3: just outrageous. But it goes on. Let's popa back on screen.
- 19:48Speaker 3: This was another little one that caught my eye. We
- 19:50Speaker 3: know that a Rond spent thirty to fifty billion dollars
- 19:55Speaker 3: in Syria, says Dr Sanam Vaquil, director of the Middle
- 19:59Speaker 3: East and North af Program at the think tank Chatham House.
- 20:03Speaker 3: So here she is up to the same tricks. Because
- 20:06Speaker 3: to suggest that Chatham House is independent, to me at least,
- 20:10Speaker 3: is just utterly incredible because if you go to their website,
- 20:13Speaker 3: it talks about their policies, their three cent sorry, their
- 20:18Speaker 3: three second century goals to enable and build peaceful, sustainable,
- 20:23Speaker 3: inclusive societies. But if we get into the real meet
- 20:27Speaker 3: of the BBC, going back to twenty twelve, we see
- 20:31Speaker 3: this lady. She has done a lot of work for
- 20:34Speaker 3: the BBC. Here she's just described as an Iran analyst.
- 20:39Speaker 3: But is she just an independent analyst in forming BBC readers. Well, actually,
- 20:45Speaker 3: when you get to the bottom, you discover that she's
- 20:47Speaker 3: an I run analyst with the Brookings Institution at Washington
- 20:51Speaker 3: and a former US State Department policy advisor. So BBC
- 20:56Speaker 3: not independent. We're talking about women like this lady. And
- 21:00Speaker 3: I'm going to say, what is she Victorian Newland too, Mike, Possibly,
- 21:06Speaker 3: But she's a woman on a lifetime mission to crush
- 21:09Speaker 3: Iran for under the boot of US interests. And if
- 21:14Speaker 3: you have a look at some of the policy documents,
- 21:16Speaker 3: we get an instant look into what they're really doing.
- 21:19Speaker 3: US policy towards Iran missed opportunities and Path Forward won't
- 21:24Speaker 3: give you the detail. Let's just pull out the key
- 21:27Speaker 3: bits because it's talking about together with new American efforts
- 21:31Speaker 3: to ramp up pressure on Iran, pressure breakdown regime change.
- 21:37Speaker 3: And if I come in in another one here the
- 21:40Speaker 3: aim she doesn't say us, but it is US diplomacy.
- 21:43Speaker 3: The aim of US diplomacy is to advance US interests,
- 21:48Speaker 3: not to make friends or endorse enemies. So we don't
- 21:51Speaker 3: want to make friends in the world. We're just going
- 21:53Speaker 3: to follow the interests. And if we get onto this
- 21:56Speaker 3: paper by the Brookings Institute, which he's been involve with,
- 22:00Speaker 3: let's look at the title here, which path to Persia
- 22:05Speaker 3: Options for a new American strategy towards Iran. Well, what
- 22:08Speaker 3: are they talking about? We only need to look in
- 22:11Speaker 3: the contents because if we get into this, we've got
- 22:16Speaker 3: the diplomatic options. We know what those are Americans' best
- 22:20Speaker 3: interest because we've just covered that persuasion and engagement. But
- 22:25Speaker 3: if we go down here, going all the way the
- 22:29Speaker 3: military options, this is invasion, air strikes, or perhaps we
- 22:33Speaker 3: just leave it to bb and the Israelis to do
- 22:36Speaker 3: the slaughter for the Americans in order to get their
- 22:40Speaker 3: best interest in here's the second part of the contents.
- 22:45Speaker 3: And if we bring this in, we've got the velvet revolution.
- 22:49Speaker 3: This is the iron fist in the velvet glove getting
- 22:53Speaker 3: in and encouraging and uprising inside the country. This is subversion.
- 22:58Speaker 3: This is what BBC media action has been involved in
- 23:02Speaker 3: over many years. And if we go through it goes
- 23:05Speaker 3: on to containment except the unacceptable, just containing Iran. But
- 23:12Speaker 3: ultimately they're talking about crafting. Let's just bring that down,
- 23:16Speaker 3: crafting and integrated Iran policy, connecting all those options. So
- 23:23Speaker 3: think about that and what the BBC is really peddling
- 23:27Speaker 3: to you, which is regime change to benefit the Americans.
- 23:30Speaker 3: Their words, not mine. Let's just have a look at
- 23:34Speaker 3: what a formerhead of MI six had to say about
- 23:38Speaker 3: those nice friendly rebels in Syria.
- 23:42Speaker 10: We are always optimistic about these things, but sometimes it
- 23:46Speaker 10: turns out we've exchanged bad for worse. What's your estimate,
- 23:51Speaker 10: I mean, from what we know of HTS, do you
- 23:55Speaker 10: believe the sort of transition from being an al Qaeda
- 23:59Speaker 10: affiliate in to being what some people are calling a
- 24:02Speaker 10: genuine liberation movement?
- 24:04Speaker 11: Well, I think Phil is right to be cautious about this.
- 24:09Speaker 11: But when I was chief of mi I six ten
- 24:12Speaker 11: twelve years ago, we looked at all these Syrian opposition
- 24:15Speaker 11: groups and classified them into those that we could support
- 24:18Speaker 11: and those who will be on the pale and too
- 24:20Speaker 11: close to Al Qayada and Tararira Sham was definitely in
- 24:23Speaker 11: the latter category. But I think Amumhammad al Jolani, the leader,
- 24:28Speaker 11: has made great efforts over the last ten years to
- 24:30Speaker 11: distance himself from those terrorist groups. And certainly the actions
- 24:35Speaker 11: we've seen of Tartaria ra Sham over the last last
- 24:39Speaker 11: two weeks has been those of a liberation movement, not
- 24:42Speaker 11: of a terrorist organization.
- 24:45Speaker 3: So there's the man really declaring it as it is
- 24:48Speaker 3: the British working in the background to use terrorists to
- 24:51Speaker 3: break down Syria, and now the target is Iran with
- 24:55Speaker 3: exactly the same tactics.
- 24:57Speaker 1: And if anybody thinks that there's a word of true
- 25:00Speaker 1: coming out of that man's mouth, just watch Wednesday's news
- 25:02Speaker 1: program if you didn't see it, because we'll show you
- 25:05Speaker 1: just what those lovely people at the terral Sham have
- 25:09Speaker 1: been doing over the last couple of weeks.
- 25:11Speaker 2: And it's not worn. You know, it's not pleasant.
- 25:15Speaker 1: Mark, Let's welcome you to the program and US policy
- 25:20Speaker 1: now with respect to deportation, what's going on?
- 25:25Speaker 5: Good day everyone. You might recall last week Mike I
- 25:28Speaker 5: reported that the State of Texas Land Office is donating
- 25:32Speaker 5: or offering just over fourteen hundred acres of land right
- 25:35Speaker 5: along the Texas Mexican border in the four county area
- 25:40Speaker 5: in which I live, the Rio Grande Valley, Star County
- 25:42Speaker 5: to be exact. Now, we're following up this week with
- 25:46Speaker 5: rumblings that there's kind of battle lines being drawn between
- 25:51Speaker 5: so called blue sanctuary cities and the incoming Trump administration.
- 25:57Speaker 5: I got a hold of the Northwest Side GOP Club.
- 26:00Speaker 5: I talked to one of its leaders last night, doctor
- 26:03Speaker 5: Dave Naik, So I've got some firsthand information mixed in here.
- 26:07Speaker 5: This slide here shows that they welcomed the incoming orders.
- 26:13Speaker 5: Our Tom Homan to a program December ninth. Of course,
- 26:16Speaker 5: mister Holman spoke to that group. He's been nominated by
- 26:19Speaker 5: Trump to head Immigration and Customs Enforcement within the DHS.
- 26:24Speaker 8: And we'll go on.
- 26:25Speaker 5: This is a little bit about the Northwest Side group. We,
- 26:28Speaker 5: the People of the Northwest Side, are an organization of
- 26:31Speaker 5: politically active individuals individuals excuse me, primarily from of course,
- 26:35Speaker 5: the northwest Side of Chicago and neighboring suburbs. We provide
- 26:39Speaker 5: a united and powerful voice and force for change that
- 26:42Speaker 5: believes life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are superior
- 26:46Speaker 5: to increased regulation, waste, and corruption, And it says at
- 26:49Speaker 5: the bottom an important part this club inspires both thought
- 26:53Speaker 5: and action to get things right politically, fiscally, socially, and culturally.
- 26:57Speaker 5: So they're a very goal oriented group. Here's some quotes
- 27:00Speaker 5: from mister Homan from that presentation. One of them, We're
- 27:04Speaker 5: going to start right here in Chicago. If you're Chicago mayor,
- 27:09Speaker 5: which is Brandon Johnson doesn't want to help, he can
- 27:12Speaker 5: step aside. So mister Homan has some powerful words. But
- 27:16Speaker 5: if he impedes us, if he knowingly harbors or conceals
- 27:19Speaker 5: an illegal alien, I will prosecute him. Mister Holman seems
- 27:23Speaker 5: to be promising. He went on to say in this
- 27:26Speaker 5: next slide January twenty. First, you're going to look for
- 27:30Speaker 5: a lot of ICE agents in your city, that being Chicago,
- 27:34Speaker 5: looking for criminals and gang members. Count on it. It
- 27:37Speaker 5: will happen. Now, we got to keep in mind mister
- 27:41Speaker 5: Homan is subject to being having his nomination for that
- 27:44Speaker 5: position confirmed. But now we have a short video from
- 27:49Speaker 5: the program. This is an exclusive. I got it from
- 27:51Speaker 5: doctor Dave Naek just last night. So this will give
- 27:54Speaker 5: you more flavor.
- 27:57Speaker 12: As US citizens, we are tasked to defend our constitution
- 28:02Speaker 12: and to protect the rule of law. You know, there's
- 28:07Speaker 12: this saying a goal without a plan is just a wish.
- 28:12Speaker 12: And I've been wishing that our communities would be safer,
- 28:15Speaker 12: especially here in Chicago and Illinois.
- 28:18Speaker 2: Folks.
- 28:18Speaker 12: Let me tell you borders, our Tom Homan is the
- 28:22Speaker 12: man with that plan to make America safe again.
- 28:27Speaker 13: Chicago's in trouble because your mayor sucks and your governor sucks,
- 28:39Speaker 13: and we're going to start right here in Chicago, Illinois. Now,
- 28:42Speaker 13: if you're Chicago mayor doesn't want to help, he can
- 28:48Speaker 13: step aside. Well if he impedes us, If you know
- 28:52Speaker 13: any harbors and conceals on illegal alien, I will prosecute him.
- 29:00Speaker 5: So, as you can see, there's some tough words going down,
- 29:03Speaker 5: and there's a lot of a lot of activity and
- 29:06Speaker 5: a lot of contemplation of what's being said by mister
- 29:10Speaker 5: Homan from these mayors in Chicago and elsewhere. Now, this
- 29:15Speaker 5: next slide is from the Chicago Republican Party, of with
- 29:20Speaker 5: which the Northwest Side Group is affiliated. This is back
- 29:23Speaker 5: from November two. It gives some interesting background and developments
- 29:27Speaker 5: that are leading up to what just happened. For mister
- 29:29Speaker 5: Homan's speech, Chicago Republicans the City Council was strong armed
- 29:35Speaker 5: in a certain respect today's special meeting of the City Council.
- 29:39Speaker 5: This was around November first or so to consider placing
- 29:42Speaker 5: Sanctuary City's sanctuary city status on a Chicago exclusive referendum
- 29:47Speaker 5: ballot in the twenty twenty fourth primary election. Was nothing
- 29:50Speaker 5: short of a disgrace to the Johnson administration and his
- 29:53Speaker 5: Democratic allies, first Democrats in Springfield, the state Capitol, but
- 29:58Speaker 5: every possible piece of pressure on Chicago Alderman to stop
- 30:01Speaker 5: the meeting. Once that failed and a quorum was present,
- 30:05Speaker 5: local socialists used every tactic possible on site, right down
- 30:08Speaker 5: to shutting off the lights in the City Council chamber.
- 30:11Speaker 5: We'll move on. It kind of gives you an idea
- 30:13Speaker 5: of just how cantankers things are getting. Quorum calls a
- 30:17Speaker 5: delay tactic that forces a row call of the aldermen
- 30:20Speaker 5: in parliamentary arguments by Mayor Johnson's floor leader, thirty fifth
- 30:25Speaker 5: ward Alderman, Carlos Ramirez Rosa, stalled the initial proceedings for hours,
- 30:30Speaker 5: but the desire of attending aldermen to let the people
- 30:32Speaker 5: decide the sanctuary city issue by reprimendum. Referendum appeared to
- 30:36Speaker 5: be unstoppable, but then the lights went out, and after
- 30:39Speaker 5: someone threw a switch, only the emergency lighting was available,
- 30:44Speaker 5: preventing this council meeting from continuing. So it was adjourn
- 30:48Speaker 5: and we'll go on from there. Jeff Fielder with the
- 30:53Speaker 5: Chicago Republicans, the executive director, was quoted as saying it
- 30:56Speaker 5: felt like a South America and junta was interveering, intervening
- 31:00Speaker 5: to stop democracy, he went on, and then the policy
- 31:04Speaker 5: director for the Chicago GOP, Chris Myers, went on to say,
- 31:07Speaker 5: it's ironic that so many illegal aliens crossing our border
- 31:11Speaker 5: come from Nicaragua and Venezuela, fleeing from authoritary and socialist regimes,
- 31:16Speaker 5: only to come to Chicago, where American leftists are trying
- 31:19Speaker 5: to establish the same kind of thing, a rather ironic
- 31:23Speaker 5: thing in mister myers estimation. And Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson
- 31:27Speaker 5: meanwhile has been defying Trump's borders are and his threat
- 31:32Speaker 5: to these sanctuary cities. We will not bend. Mister Johnson
- 31:37Speaker 5: has been quoted as saying by CBS Austin, but putting
- 31:41Speaker 5: the slides aside for just a moment, I'm looking to
- 31:44Speaker 5: some notes. I just spoke to doctor Dave Naeck of
- 31:47Speaker 5: the Northwest Side GOP last night. He shared some interesting
- 31:51Speaker 5: things that I don't have slides for this just in
- 31:53Speaker 5: You might say, there are fifty thousand illegals in Chicago
- 31:58Speaker 5: over the last four years. In Chico cargo alone five
- 32:02Speaker 5: and that's costing the city of Chicago five hundred million
- 32:06Speaker 5: dollars in recent expenses, and the costs statewide in Illinois
- 32:12Speaker 5: three is three billion dollars. And the issues have to
- 32:18Speaker 5: do with safety, public safety, sex trafficking, and the flow
- 32:22Speaker 5: of the dangerous drug fentanel. And get this one, four
- 32:26Speaker 5: hundred thousand children. In terms of the overall flow over
- 32:30Speaker 5: the southern border, some four hundred thousand children are unaccounted for.
- 32:35Speaker 5: We do not know their whereabouts and some other interesting
- 32:39Speaker 5: facts from my conversation with doctor Dave Naik. The main
- 32:42Speaker 5: three goals, he says, are sealed the border, stop catch
- 32:47Speaker 5: and release, and find all these unaccounted for children, which
- 32:52Speaker 5: it is believed are victims of the sex trade. Among
- 32:56Speaker 5: other things, there seems to be no digital record, there's
- 33:00Speaker 5: no way of ascertaining the whereabouts of these hundreds of
- 33:04Speaker 5: thousands of children. And one of the things that doctor
- 33:08Speaker 5: Dave Naek shared though, guys, is that the announcements by
- 33:14Speaker 5: mister Holman at the December nine program of the Northwest
- 33:17Speaker 5: GOP and the announcements of President elect Trump in the
- 33:22Speaker 5: estimation of the local Republicans in Chicago, these things are
- 33:26Speaker 5: softening the views somewhat of the Chicago Mayor, of the
- 33:33Speaker 5: Governor of Illinois JB. Pritzker, for whom the JB. Prisker
- 33:37Speaker 5: the Prisker Forum for Global Cities in Chicago by the
- 33:41Speaker 5: Chicago Council and Global Affairs that's named after the Prisker family.
- 33:44Speaker 5: But evidently Prinsker's views and the Chicago Mayor's views are
- 33:48Speaker 5: softening somewhat. They're looking at being a little bit more
- 33:52Speaker 5: cooperative with the Trump administration. Of course that remains to
- 33:55Speaker 5: be seen, but we're still seeing a lot of Bellius
- 34:00Speaker 5: kind of rhetoric like that. And of the slides I
- 34:04Speaker 5: have left, I won't say too much this next one
- 34:08Speaker 5: about New York. Meanwhile, in the state of New York,
- 34:12Speaker 5: the New Yorkers for Immigrant Justice have been protesting the
- 34:17Speaker 5: moves by New York officials to take the hotels that
- 34:21Speaker 5: have been completely occupied by illegal aliens and evict them,
- 34:26Speaker 5: because it's beginning to cost the state of New York
- 34:29Speaker 5: and New York City. It's costing them not just millions,
- 34:32Speaker 5: but billions of dollars, getting into the B word in
- 34:36Speaker 5: terms of statewide costs of harboring and housings. Such an unusual,
- 34:41Speaker 5: unusually high number of illegal aliens, because we have to
- 34:44Speaker 5: keep in mind, that's the bottom line, the number of
- 34:47Speaker 5: them is so high. But anyway, that's kind of what's
- 34:51Speaker 5: happening in New York. We have a couple lists here.
- 34:54Speaker 5: I don't need to read a lot of the donors,
- 34:56Speaker 5: but we have the Rockefeller Brothers Fund that's behind the
- 35:00Speaker 5: that New York organizations that's protesting the people getting kicked
- 35:04Speaker 5: out of the hotels. We have the Ford Foundation, we
- 35:08Speaker 5: have a bunch of a bunch of others.
- 35:09Speaker 2: We have.
- 35:12Speaker 5: The Pinkerton Foundation, JP, Morgan Chase, and many other elitist
- 35:18Speaker 5: and elitist connected organizations that are fighting the Trump administration
- 35:24Speaker 5: along many lines.
- 35:25Speaker 2: And we can.
- 35:26Speaker 5: Skip over that Fox News slide. There's one last slide
- 35:29Speaker 5: from New York State Alderman Matt Slater, I'll just read
- 35:32Speaker 5: that it's a real concern, real concern for my constituents.
- 35:36Speaker 5: If people are protesting the fact that we're finally getting
- 35:39Speaker 5: real about illegal immigration, they should open their doors and
- 35:42Speaker 5: welcome these people in he means, into their own homes
- 35:45Speaker 5: if they're so concerned. But taxpayers should not be fronting
- 35:49Speaker 5: billions of dollars. Again, that's statewide in New York to
- 35:52Speaker 5: incentivize those who are breaking our laws. So that that
- 35:56Speaker 5: pretty much winds it up. But the battle lines are
- 35:59Speaker 5: being drawn. But we'll see if their positions will soften
- 36:02Speaker 5: over the next few weeks. So back to you guys.
- 36:05Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, Okay, let's move on. If you like what
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- 36:47Speaker 1: Now on Sunday, another reminder, final reminder in fact of
- 36:51Speaker 1: the second annual David Ray Griffin Lecture, Doctor Malavasseti speaking
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- 37:10Speaker 1: And well, we're delighted to say that the petition to
- 37:14Speaker 1: Ensure Diagnosis and Treatment for People Suffering from Adverse COVID
- 37:17Speaker 1: nineteen vaccine side effects rached its ten.
- 37:20Speaker 2: Thousand signature target.
- 37:22Speaker 1: So we will wait to see what the Welsh government
- 37:25Speaker 1: says about holding a debate on that, and no doubt
- 37:29Speaker 1: Debbie will have more to say on that and extra Brian.
- 37:32Speaker 1: Let's move on then to BBC Media Action.
- 37:36Speaker 3: I'm afraid we have to mention the BBC the UK
- 37:38Speaker 3: call them absolutely unique in warning over a great many
- 37:42Speaker 3: years about this pernicious so called charity it's a political charity.
- 37:47Speaker 3: However that works. But if you take a look at
- 37:49Speaker 3: what BBC Media Action is up to today, well we've
- 37:53Speaker 3: got something really incredible that's come in because basically we
- 37:58Speaker 3: are working with a dred million people in need around
- 38:02Speaker 3: the world.
- 38:02Speaker 2: Just to clarify, that's BBC Media Action.
- 38:05Speaker 3: BBC Media Action, and what they're saying is that, of
- 38:09Speaker 3: course they're impartial, impactful and trustworthy. So what is this
- 38:15Speaker 3: organization actually doing. Let's have a look at this little
- 38:18Speaker 3: video clip.
- 38:22Speaker 14: We live in the age of information. Humanity is more
- 38:26Speaker 14: connected and interconnected than ever before. Soon most people will
- 38:33Speaker 14: have access to the Internet via mobile phone, with the
- 38:36Speaker 14: whole world at their fingertips. But this is also the
- 38:41Speaker 14: age of disinformation. It threatens human rights and democracy, acts
- 38:46Speaker 14: as a catalyst for conflict, poses risks to our health.
- 38:51Speaker 14: It leads people to lose faith in science, in democratic
- 38:54Speaker 14: institutions and in the media. So how can people know
- 39:00Speaker 14: what information they can trust?
- 39:03Speaker 15: So on called like these vaccines. They are talking about
- 39:07Speaker 15: the vaccine it's a sign of the beast or something.
- 39:11Speaker 15: Initially I was thinking the same lineage the same.
- 39:13Speaker 16: Guy we targeted one hundred and thirty three practicing journalists
- 39:18Speaker 16: to be trained. These are people to create content for
- 39:22Speaker 16: the generality of the propulace.
- 39:24Speaker 15: Before the BBC Media Action training, I would say I
- 39:29Speaker 15: had no real major information about discovery. But after the
- 39:33Speaker 15: training another I feel like I have a duty to
- 39:36Speaker 15: know what to say.
- 39:37Speaker 16: The importance of correct information and access to correct information
- 39:42Speaker 16: as understandable to the target audience cannot be over.
- 39:48Speaker 3: So we have it there. This is on fast in
- 39:50Speaker 3: the Veldway Club. This is the BBC getting in training,
- 39:54Speaker 3: telling young people what to think, telling them the truth
- 39:59Speaker 3: is what the ABC says, and then they go and
- 40:02Speaker 3: grab colleagues and so this subversion spreadts throughout their countries.
- 40:07Speaker 3: BBC Media Action couldn't have put it simpler there. But
- 40:10Speaker 3: of course they can only do what they're doing with
- 40:13Speaker 3: huge amounts of money.
- 40:15Speaker 1: And you know, they're busy pushing COVID narratives into Africa,
- 40:19Speaker 1: into a continent that was barely touched by COVID, didn't
- 40:23Speaker 1: have any vaccines, didn't have any excess mortality, you know,
- 40:27Speaker 1: absolutely nothing compared to First World countries that were subject
- 40:32Speaker 1: to lockdowns and vaccination and all this kind of stuff.
- 40:35Speaker 2: So so quite incredible.
- 40:37Speaker 1: But if you want to know how much money BBC
- 40:39Speaker 1: Media Action is getting from the Foreign Comnwealth Office, for example,
- 40:43Speaker 1: have a look at fcdospending dot UK, colum dot org
- 40:47Speaker 1: and all the informations there, along with all the information
- 40:50Speaker 1: of how much money the Foreign Office is sending to
- 40:53Speaker 1: a bunch of other organizations and institutions, and well that
- 41:00Speaker 1: this information is up to date final following the intervention
- 41:04Speaker 1: the Information Commissioner, we can probably say, well a rough calculation.
- 41:09Speaker 1: If you're looking for a twenty billion pound black hole
- 41:12Speaker 1: since twenty twenty two, you might find it on the
- 41:15Speaker 1: front page of that website if you go and.
- 41:17Speaker 2: Have a look.
- 41:18Speaker 3: So ultimately, millions billions of pounds disappearing into these overseas
- 41:23Speaker 3: projects undeclared. Of course it's undeclared because this money is
- 41:28Speaker 3: being used to subvert nation states.
- 41:32Speaker 1: Now let's move on to the tragic story of Sarah Sharif.
- 41:36Speaker 1: Now it is a tragic story and the tragedy can't
- 41:39Speaker 1: be overestimated. Murdered by her father despite his violent behavior
- 41:44Speaker 1: of being well understood by the authorities. Now the Children
- 41:48Speaker 1: Children's Commissioner, Rachel Desuza, well, she has had something to
- 41:53Speaker 1: say about the death of Sarah and what should be
- 41:59Speaker 1: done to make sure that this can never happen again.
- 42:03Speaker 17: I mean, look, there are three or four things that
- 42:05Speaker 17: I think could be done now that could make a
- 42:07Speaker 17: real difference.
- 42:09Speaker 5: One.
- 42:09Speaker 17: I think one of the chilling things about this case
- 42:12Speaker 17: was when hearing the Sorrowtory's father leave that message saying
- 42:18Speaker 17: I legally punish Sarah and she's dead. We need, now,
- 42:24Speaker 17: you know, in the twenty first century, to remove the
- 42:27Speaker 17: reasonable chastisement clause towards children in assault law. Children need
- 42:32Speaker 17: to have the same rights as adults to not be beaten. Secondly,
- 42:38Speaker 17: Sarah was known to services to be at risk from
- 42:41Speaker 17: before her birth, and yet she found herself living with
- 42:45Speaker 17: a father who was who had known a history bit
- 42:48Speaker 17: of violence, and her case was closed after being reported.
- 42:52Speaker 17: And it seems that a week data sharing is part
- 42:56Speaker 17: of the reason for that. And we need now to
- 42:59Speaker 17: bring in and the Children and Wellbeing Bill is coming
- 43:02Speaker 17: in a unique identifier for every child and proper data sharing.
- 43:05Speaker 17: It's not good enough not to be sharing data. I
- 43:08Speaker 17: think there's another thing that we can do here that
- 43:11Speaker 17: needs to happen straight away, which is we need an
- 43:14Speaker 17: elective home education register.
- 43:19Speaker 1: So the regions is calling for an elective home education
- 43:22Speaker 1: registers because Sarah was apparently taken out of school and
- 43:26Speaker 1: that was what ultimately resulted in her tragic death. But
- 43:31Speaker 1: Rachel went on to say that if there's any suggestion
- 43:36Speaker 1: of domestic abuse for any children that have been taken
- 43:39Speaker 1: out of school and are being homeschooled, if there's any
- 43:41Speaker 1: suggestion of domestic abuse, that parents should lose the right
- 43:45Speaker 1: to homeschool at that point. But the question of a
- 43:48Speaker 1: unique identifier for every child, what are we going to do?
- 43:50Speaker 1: Are we going to micro chip them next? Well, of
- 43:53Speaker 1: course children actually do have records going through schools at
- 43:58Speaker 1: the moment. This is just one example of a system
- 44:00Speaker 1: that many, many, if not most, schools are using around
- 44:03Speaker 1: the country, and that's seapoms. This is all about promoting
- 44:07Speaker 1: the comprehensive safety of every student, so they help schools
- 44:11Speaker 1: uphold and enhance their student well being initiatives. It's completely customizable.
- 44:15Speaker 1: The software also helps lessen burden on staff managing can
- 44:19Speaker 1: been strad of tasks, allowing schools to gain efficiency. So
- 44:22Speaker 1: if a child does anything that a teacher doesn't agree with,
- 44:26Speaker 1: and it might be expressing a view that the teacher
- 44:28Speaker 1: doesn't agree with, that goes on as a sea palm record,
- 44:32Speaker 1: but it might include child on child abuse interventions, attendance,
- 44:36Speaker 1: persistent absence, more things. And of course they are already
- 44:41Speaker 1: working with social services and the councils to make sure
- 44:44Speaker 1: that those organizations have access to this data. And this
- 44:47Speaker 1: data follows the school right through there or follows the
- 44:50Speaker 1: child right through their school career right up to adulthood.
- 44:54Speaker 1: So but on the issue of micro chipping, well, of
- 44:56Speaker 1: course we have seen this at least us being softened
- 45:01Speaker 1: up for this idea for quite a number of years.
- 45:03Speaker 1: So this is from the Metro. Should you microchip your child?
- 45:06Speaker 1: We asked an expert. Here is a BCC research human microchipping,
- 45:12Speaker 1: the benefits and disadvantages. Here is substack posts. While microchipping
- 45:16Speaker 1: your child is I must. Here's the daily meal, the
- 45:20Speaker 1: stomach churning, the terrifying incident that means add microchip my
- 45:23Speaker 1: children in a heartbeat, writes Claire Foge. So this is
- 45:27Speaker 1: something which is absolutely being promoted as hard as it can.
- 45:31Speaker 2: Be at the moment.
- 45:32Speaker 1: And again another failure to protect the child, because of
- 45:37Speaker 1: course what we see constantly, Brian is children that need
- 45:40Speaker 1: protection not getting the protection. Children that don't need protection,
- 45:44Speaker 1: being taken from the parents and sold on the open
- 45:46Speaker 1: market of adoption and.
- 45:48Speaker 3: Being abused in the system which the state says it's
- 45:51Speaker 3: to care for the children. This is utterly obscene and
- 45:55Speaker 3: Rachel needs taking to book over a belief system because
- 45:59Speaker 3: it's hopefully inadequate to the realities of the abuse of
- 46:03Speaker 3: children in UK.
- 46:04Speaker 1: More not of course, Yes, Mark back to you, and
- 46:08Speaker 1: what's Pfizer been up to.
- 46:12Speaker 5: Like usual very questionable activities. Of course, we have to
- 46:16Speaker 5: keep in mind what DeBie reported today from that mRNA scientist,
- 46:20Speaker 5: and we have to keep in mind that they're going
- 46:22Speaker 5: to try probably to push another plandemic type scenario before
- 46:28Speaker 5: too long. The bird flu still hangs in the background.
- 46:30Speaker 5: But here just a little over a month ago, Pfizer
- 46:34Speaker 5: is accused of hiding a contraceptive's brain tumor link. According
- 46:38Speaker 5: to Bloomberg law Pfizer Incorporated failed to warran patients. It's
- 46:43Speaker 5: alleged that its injectable contraceptive drug depo Privera can increase
- 46:48Speaker 5: the risk of developing brain tumors. This new lawsuit is alleging, quote,
- 46:53Speaker 5: for several decades, the manufacturers and sellers of deeper Privera
- 46:56Speaker 5: and its authorized generic and generic analogs, and it was
- 47:00Speaker 5: responsibility to investigate whether the medication could contribute to the
- 47:04Speaker 5: growth of brain tumors. And that's according to the complaint
- 47:07Speaker 5: filed in the US District Court for the Central District
- 47:10Speaker 5: of California. That's Devoric versus Pfizer Incorporated. For the record,
- 47:15Speaker 5: there's a link there that shows you how to look
- 47:17Speaker 5: at the lawsuit. Plaintiff Taylor Devoric alleged that researchers have
- 47:22Speaker 5: found depo Pervera and similar progesterone medications have been linked
- 47:27Speaker 5: to a greater incidence of brain tumors called intracranio meningioma.
- 47:31Speaker 5: She's seeking damages on her failure to warn, defective design,
- 47:35Speaker 5: negligist misrepresentation, and breach of warranty claims against the pharmaceutical giant.
- 47:41Speaker 5: And this is interesting that complaint comes in the wake
- 47:45Speaker 5: of a handful of substantially similar lawsuits filed in other
- 47:49Speaker 5: federal courts in California and Indiana in recent weeks. And
- 47:53Speaker 5: this is the company shooting back. Depo Pervera has been
- 47:56Speaker 5: an FDA approved medication for more than thirty years and
- 48:00Speaker 5: has been a safe and effective treatment option for millions
- 48:02Speaker 5: of patients during that time. Pfizer the company will vigorously
- 48:07Speaker 5: defend these losses, a spokesman said a little bit more
- 48:11Speaker 5: of the American label for depo Pervera still makes no
- 48:14Speaker 5: mention of the increased risk to patients of developing intracranio
- 48:17Speaker 5: mening geomas, even though the EU and UK now list
- 48:22Speaker 5: mening gioma under the medication's warning section. And that's according
- 48:26Speaker 5: to Devork's complaint. Devork the plaintiff and Devork issued a
- 48:30Speaker 5: twenty twenty four study published in the British Medical Journal
- 48:33Speaker 5: that said the prolonged use of medications like deepot pervera
- 48:39Speaker 5: were found to significantly increase the risk of developing that
- 48:42Speaker 5: mening geoma cancer. So there's some British outlets involved. This
- 48:47Speaker 5: is from the British Medical Journal, just a posting people
- 48:50Speaker 5: can look at the use of progestogens and the risk
- 48:55Speaker 5: of intracranial mening zoma the National case control study from
- 48:59Speaker 5: the BMJ. And from there we have just a screenshot
- 49:05Speaker 5: of the actual lawsuit, the actual document in court. People
- 49:08Speaker 5: can get the case number from there. There's contacts and
- 49:12Speaker 5: the US National Institutes of Health citing the British the
- 49:17Speaker 5: British Medical Journal. Excuse me, and this is twenty years ago.
- 49:21Speaker 5: Now we've got a little history to think about. Twenty
- 49:23Speaker 5: years ago May two thousand and four, Pfizer, the world's
- 49:27Speaker 5: largest drug maker. It still pretty much is pled guilty
- 49:31Speaker 5: on the thirteenth of May of that year to numerous
- 49:33Speaker 5: civil and criminal charges for illegally promoting the off label
- 49:37Speaker 5: use of GABA penton, which is for like Parkinson's and
- 49:40Speaker 5: other things. It has agreed to pay two hundred and
- 49:43Speaker 5: forty million dollars a criminal fine and one hundred and
- 49:46Speaker 5: fifty two million to state and federal health care programs.
- 49:49Speaker 5: That fine was the second largest given in the industry. Meanwhile,
- 49:54Speaker 5: off label sales of GABA penton continued to soar at
- 49:58Speaker 5: that time, despite evidence that the drug is not effective
- 50:02Speaker 5: for some of the problems it's used to treat. And
- 50:04Speaker 5: now we have fifteen years ago on the next slide.
- 50:07Speaker 5: We have to remember this. All this trust has been
- 50:09Speaker 5: put into Peiser. It was during the development of the
- 50:13Speaker 5: mRNA vaccines. They were the leading company during the covidocracy,
- 50:18Speaker 5: during the so called pandemic, and fifteen years ago, need
- 50:22Speaker 5: we be reminded Peiser had to pay two point three
- 50:25Speaker 5: billion for fraudulent marketing. The American pharmaceutical giant and its
- 50:30Speaker 5: subsidiary upjohn had agreed to pay two point three billion.
- 50:34Speaker 5: They did so the largest healthcare fraud settlement in the
- 50:38Speaker 5: history of the US Department of Justice to resolve criminal
- 50:41Speaker 5: and civil liability arising from the illegal promotion of certain
- 50:46Speaker 5: pharmaceutical products and that was the anti inflammatory drug Bextra
- 50:52Speaker 5: at that time. So this is twenty years ago and
- 50:55Speaker 5: fifteen years ago. Peiser lost both cases, some of the
- 50:59Speaker 5: large settlements in US history in both cases, and now
- 51:03Speaker 5: they're in court again for this possible cancer link, and
- 51:07Speaker 5: yet they're on deck to possibly produce more mRNA vaccines
- 51:12Speaker 5: should another plandemic arise. It just shows you how carefully
- 51:17Speaker 5: we have to look at the cvs of these companies
- 51:19Speaker 5: and it's amazing Pfizer has garnered so much trust when
- 51:23Speaker 5: you look at the history and now the current situation.
- 51:26Speaker 5: So that's it for now, guys, back to you.
- 51:29Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Mark, and well w I need
- 51:33Speaker 1: to welcome CHERL. Gringer to the program as well. But
- 51:36Speaker 1: w what have you got on the littist.
- 51:41Speaker 10: Right?
- 51:41Speaker 4: Well, thank you and yes I'm absolutely delighted that we're
- 51:44Speaker 4: joined by Cheryl today because we told you a little
- 51:47Speaker 4: while ago, a couple of weeks ago, that there was
- 51:49Speaker 4: going to be a first level tribunal against the MHR
- 51:53Speaker 4: that Cheryl has trailblazed herself. It's literally been a one
- 51:57Speaker 4: woman mission, so she's got to come and give us
- 52:00Speaker 4: an update on that. She's also going to give us
- 52:02Speaker 4: some stats because there's all sorts of things that's breaking
- 52:05Speaker 4: around social media with regards to releases of freedom of information,
- 52:10Speaker 4: so she's going to be updating us on that. And
- 52:13Speaker 4: also she had a little adventure and went to Parliament yesterday,
- 52:16Speaker 4: so we're going to be hearing about that. Cheryld, thank
- 52:19Speaker 4: you so much for coming. Thank you for joining us
- 52:22Speaker 4: give us an update on the first level tribunal that
- 52:24Speaker 4: you and I both went to last week.
- 52:31Speaker 18: Hi everybody, thanks very much for having me back to
- 52:34Speaker 18: report that we didn't get anywhere. Basically it's been postponed,
- 52:42Speaker 18: but it was quite an interesting exercise. So this is
- 52:47Speaker 18: my yellow card vaccine monitor where they were monitoring two
- 52:52Speaker 18: five hundred pregnant ladies and I wanted the information on
- 52:56Speaker 18: the results of that monitor. So the appeal was held
- 53:00Speaker 18: on the third of December, and the judge was cross
- 53:04Speaker 18: because we hadn't or she got all the information in
- 53:08Speaker 18: the bundle that she was supposed to have not down
- 53:10Speaker 18: to me. I did everything I was supposed to do
- 53:12Speaker 18: in the time I was supposed to do it, and eventually,
- 53:16Speaker 18: having talked to us, she went away to consider everything,
- 53:19Speaker 18: and she came back and she said the tribunal recognizes
- 53:22Speaker 18: the very important issues to be determined and that they
- 53:25Speaker 18: need to be dealt with justly, which is why she's
- 53:28Speaker 18: actually moved to the twentieth of February twenty twenty five
- 53:32Speaker 18: so we can have a whole day to discuss this.
- 53:35Speaker 18: She also said the tribunal acknowledges the very significant public
- 53:39Speaker 18: interest in the public having information about the safety vaccinations,
- 53:43Speaker 18: and the whole thing is now going to revolve around
- 53:46Speaker 18: what's called a Scott schedule, which means they nine questions
- 53:50Speaker 18: that I wrote it, I get listed, and they the
- 53:54Speaker 18: MHRA tell me their answers, and then I go back
- 53:58Speaker 18: and tell me what I think for those, and that
- 54:01Speaker 18: forms the basis of the day's hearing that we're in February.
- 54:05Speaker 18: So I think I'm able to use my same witnesses
- 54:11Speaker 18: because I asked for them to come along as well,
- 54:14Speaker 18: so I have people backing me and I have people
- 54:17Speaker 18: who can attend like Debbie, so that is hopefully something
- 54:22Speaker 18: that will be prepared for come February. So that really
- 54:25Speaker 18: is an update on the Tribune. Yesterday, keeping going with
- 54:30Speaker 18: me MHRA comments, I went to support test Matt Bay
- 54:36Speaker 18: who was going to have a backbench debate on the
- 54:39Speaker 18: performance of the MHRA, And to start off with, I
- 54:43Speaker 18: was told it was going to start about one o'clock,
- 54:45Speaker 18: and then when I was on my way, I thought
- 54:48Speaker 18: it was probably going to start about three o'clock, so
- 54:51Speaker 18: I put off going in a bit later and I'd
- 54:54Speaker 18: only been on the train about ten minutes when I
- 54:56Speaker 18: found out that it was actually going to be owned.
- 55:01Speaker 18: So again another discussion on the MHRA is about to
- 55:05Speaker 18: be postponed. And the interesting thing was they squashed in
- 55:12Speaker 18: three ministeriums, so that was one on building homes, one
- 55:17Speaker 18: on qualifications reform, and one ten year prison capacity. So
- 55:22Speaker 18: they were squashed in. And then there was a general
- 55:25Speaker 18: debate that was on an independent review into the treatment
- 55:31Speaker 18: of LGBT veterans and there were twenty two MPs that
- 55:36Speaker 18: were involved in that. And when I spoke to estmat
- 55:40Speaker 18: Bay's team. There were only seven MPs that were going
- 55:43Speaker 18: to speak up at hers, So perhaps it's something that
- 55:46Speaker 18: I can ask, Perhaps people can approach an MP and
- 55:50Speaker 18: see if they would be interested in attending the new
- 55:55Speaker 18: debate once it becomes available the date that that's going
- 55:58Speaker 18: to be held on.
- 56:02Speaker 3: I just wanted to come back and stress for the
- 56:04Speaker 3: audience what utterly fantastic work that you have done, because
- 56:08Speaker 3: of course, before you got going, there was nothing happening.
- 56:12Speaker 3: There was no real leverage to get the MHR to
- 56:17Speaker 3: answer for what it had and had not done, and
- 56:21Speaker 3: you have kickstarted that. I wondered whether the tribunal would
- 56:25Speaker 3: get to the point where simply the judge worked against
- 56:29Speaker 3: you and closed it down within that tribunal. So I
- 56:34Speaker 3: know you may feel a little bit down, but it
- 56:36Speaker 3: seems to me that the questions that the judge aren't
- 56:39Speaker 3: asked were actually pretty pertinent. It was reasonable to say
- 56:43Speaker 3: you can get all that detailed information and analysis through
- 56:48Speaker 3: in a three hour hearing. That's subtly ridiculous. So your
- 56:52Speaker 3: hard work has now leveraged it, leveraged it into a
- 56:58Speaker 3: much longer period. This thing is beginning to break surface.
- 57:03Speaker 3: And if we say it was going to happen as
- 57:07Speaker 3: a debate in Parliament, they've had to close that down
- 57:10Speaker 3: as well because they're so frightened at the subject. You know,
- 57:14Speaker 3: don't underestimate what you've done. You've taken the lid off
- 57:18Speaker 3: this thing. What needs to happen now, I think is
- 57:21Speaker 3: that we need to get public support and I'm looking
- 57:24Speaker 3: at very much at our audience in behind you, to
- 57:27Speaker 3: demand that this thing gets the hearing which it's deserved.
- 57:31Speaker 3: You've got the wedge into the crack in the wall,
- 57:35Speaker 3: and the thing is now to hammer that wedge in.
- 57:38Speaker 3: So I'm going to say to you, well done.
- 57:43Speaker 18: Well, thanks very much. I mean, at the end of
- 57:45Speaker 18: the day, they'll both probably happen now about the same time,
- 57:49Speaker 18: so one will help the other.
- 57:51Speaker 8: I would have thought.
- 57:52Speaker 18: But as I say, if people can actually approach there
- 57:55Speaker 18: and get more than seven MPs to back this look
- 57:59Speaker 18: at the performance of the MHRA, I think that would
- 58:02Speaker 18: be very valuable to show that there is interest in
- 58:05Speaker 18: this particular subject. So I'll leave that with people. So
- 58:12Speaker 18: I mean, just finally we got information that the CHM,
- 58:17Speaker 18: the Committee on Human Medicines which advises the MHRA, and
- 58:23Speaker 18: medical officers and is shared by Debbie's favorite professor, Manir
- 58:28Speaker 18: Permuhammad and the committee have been very quiet on their minutes,
- 58:35Speaker 18: but now they're actually published the minutes and we can
- 58:37Speaker 18: get to see the minutes of their discussions before the
- 58:40Speaker 18: vaccines were released, which is quite interesting. So to start
- 58:46Speaker 18: off with, the first one I went to was the
- 58:48Speaker 18: end of twenty seventh of November, and I looked at
- 58:51Speaker 18: six minutes to start off with, and it ranged from
- 58:55Speaker 18: about eighty people taking part in this week to about
- 58:59Speaker 18: fifty the fifty odd fifty four people. How the heck
- 59:03Speaker 18: you run a committee has got that number of people
- 59:06Speaker 18: on it? I have no idea. Can I just have
- 59:09Speaker 18: the slide up? Might please?
- 59:11Speaker 2: There you go?
- 59:13Speaker 18: Thank you. So So basically this just sums up some
- 59:16Speaker 18: of the things that I picked up on. They argued
- 59:19Speaker 18: about the lack of benefit in the under fifties. There
- 59:23Speaker 18: was one person who said that there's no point in
- 59:25Speaker 18: using them under fifty, but it went through past infection
- 59:29Speaker 18: was not considered to be a risk because they looked
- 59:31Speaker 18: to what other vac scenes did, so that was fine.
- 59:34Speaker 18: They mentioned the process one process too, so that was
- 59:36Speaker 18: actually discussed. They were very much aware that it was
- 59:39Speaker 18: a different process for making for clinical trials and for
- 59:42Speaker 18: actually putting out for commission.
- 59:43Speaker 5: Of the public.
- 59:44Speaker 18: They went on and on about the particulate effects, So
- 59:47Speaker 18: the particle size that was seen in the files discussed.
- 59:53Speaker 18: They discussed this is called EJO five five three, which
- 59:57Speaker 18: is the infamous batch that to a lot of side
- 1:00:00Speaker 18: of it, and there were thirty times the amount of
- 1:00:03Speaker 18: limnopathy compared with clinical trials, and that again was because
- 1:00:09Speaker 18: of particulate debris and also the integrity of the mRNA,
- 1:00:15Speaker 18: so the stability wasn't right. They knew about beations that
- 1:00:19Speaker 18: all of this would bring to immunogenicity. They basically had
- 1:00:24Speaker 18: talked about hypersensitivity and anaphylaxis and perhaps reaction to PEG.
- 1:00:31Speaker 18: And then they also knew, which was incredible to see
- 1:00:34Speaker 18: it in black Wine, that the distributing site was extensive
- 1:00:39Speaker 18: and this is before it was launched, and there was
- 1:00:42Speaker 18: lack of data on severe cases of COVID elderly, and
- 1:00:46Speaker 18: they were also discussing asymptomatic cases and whether that was
- 1:00:49Speaker 18: a thing then, and the MADERNA information that was looking
- 1:00:53Speaker 18: at animal reproductive tox ecology as a basis for looking
- 1:00:57Speaker 18: at use in pregnancy and breastfeeding. There's many more things
- 1:01:01Speaker 18: that can be picked up, I'm sure, but I have
- 1:01:03Speaker 18: to look at more of these. It's there now that
- 1:01:05Speaker 18: information and people can go and look at this Vaccine
- 1:01:07Speaker 18: Benefit Risk Expert Working Group what a name which is
- 1:01:11Speaker 18: a quality of the ad top group the internet and
- 1:01:14Speaker 18: look for themselves.
- 1:01:16Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think just to finish this, we'll
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: talk a bit more about this in extra. But the
- 1:01:21Speaker 1: admission of distribution from the injection site being extensive, that
- 1:01:25Speaker 1: that is huge actually, and we will talk more about
- 1:01:29Speaker 1: that an extra. I think we're at a time we're.
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: Out of time, but I'll just say once again Cheryld,
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: what you've done is fantastic. And of course Debbie got
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: stuck in although well years ago now with those MHR
- 1:01:45Speaker 3: board meetings which started to get the information to the surface.
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: So the thing is just now to keep going. And
- 1:01:53Speaker 3: no they're not going to roll over and give in easily.
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: It's going to be a battle. But the key bit
- 1:01:57Speaker 3: is to get the truth.
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: That absolutely well, look, we've got to leave it there
- 1:02:01Speaker 1: for today. Thank you very much to Mark, to Debbie,
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: to Cheryl and to Brian. Of course we will see
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: in a few minutes if your UK call a member
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: for some extra otherwise, have a great weekend and we'll
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: see you again on Monday.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: Bye bye, bye bye