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From Living in Fear to Living in Love · The Bridges and Beacons Podcast

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SPEAKER_00: Hello, and welcome to the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, where I host Candid Conversations for the Curious.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm your host, Kelly Meyerson, original Mystic Nerd.
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SPEAKER_00: And this evening I'm joined by my very good friend Joy.
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SPEAKER_00: Joy inspires love, peace, and joy through her presence and offerings.
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SPEAKER_00: She loves hula hooping and sunbeams and shining her light wherever she wanders.
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SPEAKER_00: And as a friend of hers and having spent some time with her, there is a lot of light that is coming off of her.
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SPEAKER_00: I just told her before we came on that she's the perfect person to talk to this evening as we're going into the season of Christmas and the new year.
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SPEAKER_00: She is a breath of fresh air in the world.
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SPEAKER_00: And so I'm so happy to have you and welcome.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much, Kelly.
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SPEAKER_01: It's a joy to be here with you.
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SPEAKER_00: I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: So is is your name really Joy, or or is there a story behind that?
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SPEAKER_01: This is the name I was given at birth, Joy Ann Bomblet.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, and having this name and having my joy rather squashed in my family with the rage a holic father and the perfectionistic mother and the door-slamming sister and all this stuff, I really tucked inward.
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SPEAKER_01: I started hiding, getting under the radar.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want to, I was sensitive, but the name joy was a call inside my being to become.
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SPEAKER_01: And in my 30s, I wrote a prayer every day for a very long time to become the joy I am created to be.
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SPEAKER_01: And I was led to classes, books, healers to over years to help me become to stop hiding.
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SPEAKER_01: I was hiding my light.
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SPEAKER_01: And now I'm shining my light.
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SPEAKER_00: Wherever you are.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and you know, I'm I'm a huge fan of yours.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, we met, I'm not even sure, sometime over the course of the last year, as we've sort of filtered into the same wonderful community of healers and helpers and writers and poets and authors, and um so when I first met you and we were chatting and found out that you're an author of books for all people, I'm not even gonna say it's for children because I these are wonderful.
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SPEAKER_00: So, this is the particular volume that I have for those of you who are listening in and not seeing.
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SPEAKER_00: It's this gorgeous book um called Design to Shine, Read Aloud Rhymes for Any Size Heart, Volume Two.
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SPEAKER_00: And on the front, there is a gorgeous waterfall in the background.
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SPEAKER_00: The the inspiration feels very seusical, as I was saying to Joy.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and the the images are just delicious and fun throughout the book.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and the coolest thing about it, there's many cool things about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Joy takes you A through Z, and each letter has a word.
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SPEAKER_00: So for B it's believe, and then a gorgeous poem that follows suit.
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SPEAKER_00: Way more fun to read out loud, especially to poetry lovers of all ages.
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SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, that's my my shameless plug for this book because I love it so much, Joy.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'm so glad, Kelly.
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SPEAKER_01: Um the books, I think it's because I wrote that I wanted to become the joy I am created to be.
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SPEAKER_01: And because I have written in a journal every day for decades, I have 40 years of journals in bins by date.
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SPEAKER_01: They're in there.
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SPEAKER_01: And wow, and you know, when you write in a journal, I recommend that for anyone because a coach showed up in my journal through my pen.
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SPEAKER_01: I would write about something that was bugging me, and before I knew it, I was writing a solution to the issue.
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SPEAKER_01: I was, I feel like I was being coached by another part of me.
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SPEAKER_01: And um the fact that I am now that books come, I don't try to write my books.
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SPEAKER_01: I was awakened of my first book.
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SPEAKER_01: Came in, I was awakened in 2014 2014 to use the lessons of my life to inspire readers.
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SPEAKER_01: Even though I have felt like a slow learner and a late bloomer, I really have learned a lot in this lifetime.
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SPEAKER_01: So it didn't surprise me that I could make a whole list of lessons and then to create that first book called Go Enjoy an Alphabetical Adventure.
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SPEAKER_01: What I have in front of me is the second edition of that book.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, so here it is: a relatable book of essays, poems, and questions to ignite your joy.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm not surprised I'm an author because I have written every day of for decades.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So um where else should I I'm like, well, oh, and then there's um volume one of this book.
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SPEAKER_01: That yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: So I love it.
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SPEAKER_01: Should we read?
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, do you want to pick an alphabet letter and um we'll read a rhyme or two?
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SPEAKER_01: Let's pick Jay.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, there's joy in volume one and juggle in volume two.
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SPEAKER_01: I want to hear joy, definitely.
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SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Joy, a feeling so high, so bold and so deep.
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SPEAKER_01: It's natural, normal, your birthright to keep.
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SPEAKER_01: Meet essence of joy on a walk in the creek, then stepping on grass in tender bare feet.
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SPEAKER_01: Greet joy by yourself or with badgers nearby, with monkeys on treetops, geese streaming through sky.
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SPEAKER_01: Ad hula in sunbeams, do not hesitate.
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SPEAKER_01: Share it, embrace it to joy celebrate.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, I love it.
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SPEAKER_00: Is it as much fun to speak it as it is to receive it?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh see, those illustrations are amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and and no worries, everyone.
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SPEAKER_00: We're we're gonna hook you up in the show notes with where you can get all of these wonderful books, um, because they're they're just so much fun.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I um I crossed a bridge from fear to love.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm telling you, people, the love side of the equation is a way better place to be.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe putting fear into us.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I think it's kind of could have been generational, but it's it's not boy, it's not fun to feel fearful.
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SPEAKER_01: My shoulders were up by my ears.
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SPEAKER_01: I was so I was so clenched, yeah, clenched, tight, constipated, you know, just totally the whole body was on guard.
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SPEAKER_01: And because we didn't know, is dad gonna come home and rage about something, or is he gonna come home and be more mellow?
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SPEAKER_01: And you know, bless my parents, they are deceased now, and I thankfully got it.
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SPEAKER_01: I was healed enough to really be um be better when I was with them, and I didn't get a stomachache um at the end of their lives.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, but I I really feel when I crossed that bridge was in 2007, because we were moving, my husband and I were moving from Northeast Ohio to Western North Carolina.
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SPEAKER_01: Every spring, I took a journaling class for many seasons, and it always was about a topic.
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SPEAKER_01: This teacher had been an English teacher earlier in her career.
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SPEAKER_01: She wrote such amazing journaling prompts, and the topic every year was something different.
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SPEAKER_01: One year it was friendship, one year it was raiment of meaning about the clothes that we wear.
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SPEAKER_01: The year that we were moving away from where I had been in Ohio in for 46 years, the topic of the class was letters to the future.
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SPEAKER_01: If you are worried about anything, I would recommend you write letters to the future, and maybe I will make a post about this.
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SPEAKER_01: We should all be writing letters to the future, that our planet is saved, it is not, you know, climate, chaos, and everything.
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SPEAKER_01: Because me writing to these journaling prompts, it was a switch went off in me because we were leaving a few months later for the mountains of western North Carolina to live on a mountaintop, but I switch from fear to faith, from from fear to love, just trusting that I would be given everything I need that my life would be unfolding beautifully in the mountains.
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SPEAKER_01: And lo and behold, I cannot believe what has happened for me the last 14 years.
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SPEAKER_01: That man who was my husband, who he and I had a beautiful run, two great kids, but one year after we moved to the mountains, he asked for a divorce.
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SPEAKER_01: So this was a really pivotal thing in my life.
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SPEAKER_01: I heard a voice that said, take in this darkness, because when he started talking about this issue, it hit me in the gut like a black cloud.
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SPEAKER_01: But I heard take it, I heard take in this darkness, you need it, you are going to transmute it.
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SPEAKER_01: Bless that, my ex, because I have changed and grown immensely.
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SPEAKER_01: And if I had I have, I am in a an amazing relationship now that we likely will be together until we leave our bodies because it is so deep and so soulful, and we're going on four amazing years every one day at a time.
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SPEAKER_01: We have spiritual practices, we pray silently and hold hands before we eat.
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SPEAKER_01: We have very we are so good together.
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SPEAKER_01: So between the the divorce and this man I'm with, I was given three men that I call my post-relationship guys, where I needed to, they all were given to me for particular reasons.
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SPEAKER_01: Things I needed to learn mindfulness, presence.
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SPEAKER_01: I needed to heal my digestion, digestive system, and the one man led me to colonics.
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SPEAKER_01: Um I I just think I have, I think maybe we're all given everything we ever need.
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SPEAKER_01: But we need to believe that.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, if we believe, if we believe we never get what we need, hello.
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SPEAKER_01: Your beliefs are powerful, people.
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SPEAKER_01: Our beliefs, our thoughts, we create our lives.
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SPEAKER_01: So I am living now this incredible life of loving.
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SPEAKER_01: I have become an alliance of divine love minister.
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SPEAKER_01: So when that happened for me, I think in 2015, I took an oath to bring the highest degree of love wherever I am.
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SPEAKER_01: And it becomes easier and easier for me to be it, like the more we love, the more our ego falls away.
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SPEAKER_01: I love that.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because love is not egoic, love is of divinity, it's unconditional.
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SPEAKER_01: The more loving we become, the more, the less egoic we are.
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SPEAKER_01: So, in other words, a a really loving individual like me, I don't have an ounce of competition in me or jealousy.
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SPEAKER_01: In fact, even before I became who I am, I I remember being a little bit jealous one time at one time in your life.
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SPEAKER_01: One time, and I knew what to do with it because I had read a quote that talked about if you're jealous of somebody, what you need to do is lean into doing something creative for you know, bring out your own gifts.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, I think that it was some quote about that.
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SPEAKER_01: So I knew this feeling of jealousy I had for this other person.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Joy, you gotta just go write some essays, pick up a pencil, pick up a pencil, so yeah, but she's she's shine, she has been shining in her life for decades, and it just took me a little longer to shine in my life.
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SPEAKER_02: Hmm.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, what questions?
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SPEAKER_00: I was I wanted to take you back because I thought it was so interesting the way you said that you know, prior to everything happening when you had moved to North Carolina and this divorce is coming up for you, that there was a voice or an intuition that said to embrace this darkness.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I think so many of us can, in hindsight, look at you know, the things that have happened in our lives and the people that have come to us and been like, oh, that was the lesson I was learning there.
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SPEAKER_00: We can reverse engineer, but you had this unique opportunity to you know clutch that moment and be like, I'm taking this, you know, this is an opportunity.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, thank you.
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SPEAKER_01: I think it's because I had already been on this a spiritual journey to become a better version of joy.
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SPEAKER_01: I had already written for years this prayer.
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SPEAKER_01: I'd had a spirit, um, a morning practice writing in my journal, praying for other people, praying for my own journey.
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SPEAKER_01: And so I think that this voice, what I interpreted it as, Kelly, was it either was my higher self, because I I like heard it inside me.
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SPEAKER_01: Um, I think it probably was my higher self before my higher self actually came real became very integrated within me.
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SPEAKER_01: So I think evolution is such a its stages and layers.
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SPEAKER_01: And even if we desire to be who we are, it takes time.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, there were there were years that I just was exhausted from wanting to be a better version of me.
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SPEAKER_01: And I cried when there was a healer who said, I really think if you work with me, it will be highly beneficial.
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SPEAKER_01: And I cried on the phone and I'm like, I'm so tired of healing.
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SPEAKER_00: And I really, I really I don't want to.
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SPEAKER_01: I yeah, I felt like the healing journey, like, when will it ever end?
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SPEAKER_01: But now, well, I'll say what happened was it's a it's a blessing and a half that I worked with that woman because she helped me forge a truce with my inner critics.
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SPEAKER_01: So for the first parts of my life, I was being beaten up by people outside me, and then I was being beaten up from within myself.
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SPEAKER_01: So in my books, the first version of this book, the second version of this book, there's an essay about healing our inner critics, and to to have the quietness inside me, to have every part of me on board.
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SPEAKER_01: So, in other words, instead of having that perfectionist of me that I used to have beating me up to make everything perfect, I instead have this part of me that likes to do things well, allowing me and us to get things done well without crazy perfectionistic pushing.
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SPEAKER_01: And I really think allowing um, there is a book that I have read every day for six years so far, which I recommend.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I even wrote an essay in this revised version.
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SPEAKER_01: It's called The Way of Mastery.
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SPEAKER_01: Because it is changing me.
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SPEAKER_01: And the goal of the book, it is channeled from Jesus in the most beautiful language.
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SPEAKER_01: And it the book talks about that the vibration.
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SPEAKER_01: Says it in the introduction here.
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SPEAKER_01: It says, these um, you hold in your hands the treasured teachings of Jeshua Ben Joseph, parentheses, Jesus, one of the greatest masters humankind has ever known.
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SPEAKER_01: These teachings were given during the years 1994 to 1997.
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SPEAKER_01: Please do not hurry as you read through each lesson.
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SPEAKER_01: Rather, allow each sentence to be held within the heart.
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SPEAKER_01: Each idea to fill the mind and the body with its very real frequency and vibration.
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SPEAKER_01: For each word, the structure of each sentence, the cadence, and the humor is by design.
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SPEAKER_01: So it's the book talks about just doing it over and over and over, and we allow this vibration to penetrate it's to become love.
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SPEAKER_01: Because all divinity ever wants wanted was for humans to be good to one another, to be to be kind, to be generous with one another.
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SPEAKER_01: I do not think we were designed to be in afraid of each other.
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SPEAKER_01: No, we're designed to be lights to one another.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I think too, you know, some of the things you were saying before, existing in that state of fear, that fight, flight, freeze, and the impact that has on your human body is significant.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, the the perfectionism, I can relate to all that.
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SPEAKER_00: The the I'm a recovering perfectionist myself, that inner critic activity can be so detrimental and so unconscious until you're conscious of it.
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SPEAKER_00: But I love what you said about you you wrote a truce with your inner critic.
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SPEAKER_00: Like it was, okay, let's have a truce.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that because I think what I've discovered with my inner critic that often my inner critic is uh is me as a wounded child from some point in my life.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I have become, you know, taken with this practice of when I hear my inner critic, I'm like, okay, who am I talking to?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this is this me at seven?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this me at 13?
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SPEAKER_00: Is this me at 20?
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SPEAKER_00: You know, who who is the young woman who's coming through and feeling like she's got to put on this bravado to protect me?
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SPEAKER_00: And and I've I've literally gotten into the practice of like sitting and inviting that child to be with me.
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SPEAKER_00: If she's really small, inviting her to sit in my lap and feel my love and tell her little one it's okay.
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SPEAKER_00: We're we're we're an adult now.
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SPEAKER_00: We get to exist in an adult world and we have more choice and more control, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: So um, I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that making a truce.
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SPEAKER_00: And I feel like I've befriended the inner critic.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm like, okay, what is and curious, being curious about it.
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SPEAKER_00: Where is this coming from?
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SPEAKER_00: What do what do I need right now?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I see you.
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SPEAKER_00: You're you're like me.
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SPEAKER_00: You're nodding your head.
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SPEAKER_01: You're even I love that you have found your way to work with your own inner voices to embrace and love and you know, and for me, it was the journey with this support person who helped me forge a truce with my inner critics.
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SPEAKER_01: And the process for me, and that I write about is she asked me to write down what I would call them.
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SPEAKER_01: So, and I was throwing them against the wall.
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SPEAKER_01: I was, I I I hated hearing from them.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so yeah, she asked me to name, I named the inner perfectionist, the inner sloth, and the inner banker at the time.
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SPEAKER_01: And she told me in my journal, ask them why they are noisy, and I said, Why are you noisy?
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SPEAKER_01: And they said, Because you weren't in charge of your life, and I said in my journal, wow, thank you very much.
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SPEAKER_01: I am now in, I'm taking responsibility for my life.
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SPEAKER_01: So what if you stay along in a different manner, and we just all work together on this thing, and you know, and I have had peace inside myself ever since.
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SPEAKER_01: So I recommend don't go through life being driven by old, old wounds inside yourself.
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SPEAKER_01: And I I have had so many people tell me that my books, uh, the design to shine books nurture the inner child, and that this book they have gotten a lot of benefit from, and also there's a journal that came through me, um, also called Venture to Your Center, and it's available as an e-book.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, there might still be hard copies available in the world, but it's not being printed in anymore.
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SPEAKER_01: So I I just I desire, I mean, I I sang that song, Let There Be Peace on Earth and Let It Begin with Me.
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SPEAKER_01: I sang it with every fiber in my being as a seven-year-old.
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SPEAKER_01: Same.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I want I wanted to live in a world that was filled with peace.
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SPEAKER_01: And then later in life, when I studied the Course in Miracles, I came to understand that peace will come when every individual, not every, but we need a tipping point of a certain amount of people to become the peace, the love, before we will cross over into that really better place.
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SPEAKER_01: So, you know how many of us can add to the balance of being beyond fear, being beyond the wounds of our childhood, and live a responsible, beautiful adulthood that we're bringing goodness.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, we're picking up what someone dropped, we're opening doors.
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SPEAKER_01: We are, because I'm gonna tell you, I have had the most incredible week, and I really feel that something is happening for me because I am a really lovely individual, and I'm hearing from more people.
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SPEAKER_01: I I heard from a client, she wrote me and she's like, I bought these things from you seven to ten years ago.
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SPEAKER_01: Because I put um before books started writing themselves through me, I was putting out into the world beautiful items with positive words on them.
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SPEAKER_01: So she said, My stock, I'm my I'm running out of my stock, I'm giving the last one to my niece for Christmas.
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SPEAKER_01: So I want to replenish my stock.
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SPEAKER_01: And then I heard from this man from that I knew in Ohio years and years ago, and he's like, This happened, and can you do this?
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, this is beautiful.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: To hear from people from my past in ways that I can serve them now.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm elated.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I think you know what the really cool thing about that is, is that, and I I think this is where, you know, people learn about the law of attraction and they they create vision boards, you know, and I love a vision board, believe me.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that creative process and everything.
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SPEAKER_00: But, you know, what you're really talking about is the authenticity and the integrity and the alignment that you're living in, the energy that you're living in, the energy you've invested for yourself.
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SPEAKER_00: You don't need to seek out these opportunities.
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SPEAKER_00: You're in alignment with them and they magnetize to you.
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SPEAKER_00: And that, like that to me, is the true law of attraction.
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SPEAKER_00: And it, I mean, anybody who's a huge fan of The Secret, which I've I've listened to it over and over and over, I'm a big fan.
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SPEAKER_00: But if you listen to the next edition of that, it's really talking about the law of attraction, is the law of love and being love and seeking love.
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SPEAKER_00: So you're such a great example of that, Joy.
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SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Kelly.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'll tell you in the way of mastery that I earlier mentioned, there's Jesus gives the um uh a format, and I remember it as dios, d-i-a-s.
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SPEAKER_01: When we desire with our whole heart, when we intend, when we're allowing, and we surrender, this is the journey of bringing about everything.
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SPEAKER_01: So I I think I'm a live I am a living example of being aligned with life, the goodness of life.
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SPEAKER_01: Like I I cannot tell you how many people have told me that I have a very large spiritual team, and that I mean, I was on um a little author webinar with this other author from one of the books I've written in.
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SPEAKER_01: I've written chapters in books as you have, Kelly.
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SPEAKER_01: And I said something, and the one author said, Oh my gosh, Joy, your spirit team just gave me an answer that I needed.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, that was like blew me away because this woman what that my spirit team spoke to her, that's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that I am living, I I can't even tell you how grateful I am.
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SPEAKER_01: I have written in a gratitude journal for every day for many, many years.
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SPEAKER_01: All all that I have poured out onto the page for many, many years, I feel like it's all coming back to me now.
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SPEAKER_01: Like there's no stopping me now.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm attracting, I am attracting so much goodness, and it feeds on itself because I'm never gonna stop being good, quote, good.
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SPEAKER_01: I am extending goodness and kindness, and people call and they need an hour phone call, and I give them an hour phone call.
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SPEAKER_01: I am so grateful to be here with you today.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm so grateful you're here.
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SPEAKER_00: And I I mean, we we haven't even touched on, I mean, this gorgeous practice you've had of writing in journals.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm a I'm a journal writer myself.
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SPEAKER_00: I probably have at least like 20 from the past couple years, you know, and I'm uh I'm much of my writing is also very channeled, you know.
38:32
SPEAKER_00: I funny note about myself, I have aqua notes in my shower because sometimes I start channeling things to write in the shower.
38:40
SPEAKER_00: And they're these notes that you can write on in the shower.
38:43
SPEAKER_00: If you don't have them, and if you're listening and you don't have them, get them for yourself because you know the whole purpose is like you get your to-do list in your head when you're in the shower and writing it down.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: But for me, I've used it for drafting books and programs and you know, ideas and thoughts, and I mean, it you name it, but being open to that and allowing what is on your mind to go onto the page is just it's very different than thinking about things or talking to people about things.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: There's something really special that happens when the pen hits the page.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Um, and uh, I love what you said about writing a letter to the future.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: And I was getting chills because I just last night I had been listening to another podcast, kind of like in the planning for 2022.
39:39
SPEAKER_00: And one of the journal prompts that this woman gave was for you to write a letter to yourself from yourself in December 2022 to yourself in December 2021.
39:56
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I thought about it, you know, big mistake.
40:00
SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't think about it, you should just feel it.
40:02
SPEAKER_00: And then I sat down and I wrote it last night, and it was pretty remarkable to me, the things that were coming out on the page.
40:10
SPEAKER_00: And so anyway, that really ties back into what you were saying about like sometimes when you're writing, it it is your higher self or yourself on different points of your timeline coming through.
40:23
SPEAKER_00: And that to me, I mean, it's the definitely mystical nerd moment, right?
40:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, like some people are probably like, who's writing to you on your page?
40:32
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's me.
40:33
SPEAKER_00: It might be me like in 2025.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes, oh my gosh, you're reminding me because years and years ago, I went when I had these stalls with the positive words, and I was new in the world being rather visible.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: I went to an event, and on the Saturday night, we needed to dress as we will be in five years.
41:00
SPEAKER_01: Become be who we will be in five years.
41:04
SPEAKER_01: And what I did was I made a mock-up of a memoir, and I became an author that night, and at this cocktail party, we didn't know, but five of us got invited because we did the best job, and we got invited on stage to give a talk, and I gave a talk about the poor towns that highways have bypassed, and that I want to bring joy to those towns, um, and different things.
41:51
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it was like, oh my gosh, and Michael and I travel the back roads, yes, you do, we travel the back roads, we don't love highways, and we give books away and we blow bubbles, we are bringing what we are bringing, and I couldn't be.
42:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm just you just never know, you know, because when that divorce happened for me, I knew people who were 15 years past their divorce, but they were still in their divorce.
42:34
SPEAKER_01: So people we don't need to hold things that happen to us, we don't need to hold accidents.
42:42
SPEAKER_01: I held an accident in my body for nine years until I was led to chiropractic, which I really needed and massage, but the holding, it's not it's not the journey of a human.
42:59
SPEAKER_01: The journey of a human is allow things to happen, but don't grab on to them.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, I yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh, I mean, we could have a whole we could have a whole conversation about the forgiveness work around divorce because I know that was a big thing for me.
43:24
SPEAKER_00: I I mean I've I've been, oh my gosh, it's it's probably been almost 16 years since I've been divorced.
43:30
SPEAKER_00: So it's been a very long time for me.
43:32
SPEAKER_00: And but there was a lot of healing that took a long time to work its way through.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: And same thing, lots of body things and you know, lots of, you know, challenges.
43:44
SPEAKER_00: But um I actually, you know, maybe a maybe a couple years ago now, not even sure how long, but I finally had that like last aha moment of what I felt like at the time was like being slighted and someone not wanting to, you know, push through and keep going with me, and that that that was against me.
44:09
SPEAKER_00: And I finally saw the gift in that.
44:13
SPEAKER_00: And I actually I have I was talking through it like on a tape recorder while I was driving, and it just like came out of me, and I was like, oh my gosh, I just that just literally healed the last little piece that it needed to, and I have it recorded, you know, on tape.
44:31
SPEAKER_00: But um yeah, I think I think that's a whole that's a whole topic, that topic of forgiveness.
44:38
SPEAKER_00: And it certainly could extend, like you said, beyond divorce into our experiences as children and you know, the things that we go through that are, you know, big trauma, little trauma.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, yeah.
44:52
SPEAKER_01: Well, this is where I I I highly recommend you look into this book called The Way of Mastery, because I'm writing it down.
45:04
SPEAKER_01: The way of mastery, because what it talks about with forgiveness is that if anything comes up in your past, if you close your eyes and think about your past and any triggery trauma things come up, what our journey is is to bring love to them.
45:27
SPEAKER_01: We have not made any mistakes.
45:32
SPEAKER_01: We have simply been experimenting as a spiritual being having a human experience.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna pause you there because I feel like you need to say that again.
45:44
SPEAKER_00: We have not made any mistakes.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: We have simply been having we are we're spiritual beings having a human experience, but.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: But everything that's happened in our journey on our journey, it's what we need to do with it is thank it.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: Love it.
46:16
SPEAKER_01: And I will tell you that I have become a person who it was five years ago that I was on a journey with one of these post-divorce men, and our my car was broken into, and I felt the shock of this for a really a very short time.
46:40
SPEAKER_01: And I s and then something in me got centered and remembered that I'm grateful that this window can be repaired.
46:55
SPEAKER_01: Um and what that I just got into such gratitude.
47:03
SPEAKER_01: My books and wares were still in the vehicle, but the backpack of that guy I was dating had been taken.
47:14
SPEAKER_01: And I it turns out that him without his computer was an interesting journey thing.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: What I realized is I did not belong with that man.
47:28
SPEAKER_01: I needed not to be with that man, but what I feel in hindsight is I had been given hints.
47:38
SPEAKER_01: We are given hints.
47:42
SPEAKER_01: So this happened, then this happened, then I needed the big kahuna thing to happen.
47:52
SPEAKER_01: I needed the I needed the hit over the head.
47:56
SPEAKER_01: Right.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: Because I needed not to be with that guy any longer.
48:00
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
48:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:02
SPEAKER_01: Um, my gut was healed.
48:04
SPEAKER_01: Um, he did his work, you know.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
48:09
SPEAKER_01: I think we are we are having a human life is an amazing experience.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: Um, and to think how long I licked my wounds, but see, there was a time I was rather appalled with myself for how long it took me to heal into signing.
48:36
SPEAKER_01: Yep, but I got over it because that's very egoic.
48:39
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Joy, you you are who you are.
48:44
SPEAKER_01: It took you how long it took you, and so be it.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: Because I'm I'm youthing, I'm not aging, I'm youthing.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I love that.
48:54
SPEAKER_01: Um thank you.
48:57
SPEAKER_01: Like, why age when you could youth?
49:02
SPEAKER_00: Um I I'm joining you on that.
49:05
SPEAKER_00: Let's youth together.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm all about it.
49:08
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, Joy.
49:10
SPEAKER_00: I I would love for you to come back and and delve more into some of this forgiveness work and some of this transformation that you've done.
49:20
SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm so glad you came to talk to us tonight about going from living in fear to living in love.
49:26
SPEAKER_00: And you've given us so many really practical tips for people.
49:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, so tell everybody what's the best way for them to connect with you.
49:37
SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
49:38
SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
49:40
SPEAKER_01: You could write to joy at joyonyourshoulders.com, or you could write to me through the website Joy on Your Shoulders, and you could always reach out and say, Hey, give me some journaling prompts, or do you know, I need a 20-minute call with you, and I would love that.
50:03
SPEAKER_01: I serve, I serve, I'm I'm certified in spiritual direction, so I call that, I call myself a spiritual mentor.
50:15
SPEAKER_01: Um, clients years ago dubbed me their joybringer.
50:20
SPEAKER_01: I will bring you joy.
50:22
SPEAKER_00: And you have totally done that tonight.
50:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm so thrilled to have had you.
50:29
SPEAKER_00: It's always an inspiration to talk to you.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: We have so many parallel experiences in our our life journeys, and I I love to feel the healing process that you've been through and be able to talk about some of these things practically for people who are still in the thick of it.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: Um, and I know you've given people some really great ideas.
50:51
SPEAKER_00: I will make sure in the show notes to have all of the ways that you can connect with Joy.
50:56
SPEAKER_00: And of course, very importantly, um the links to purchase her books on Amazon.
51:03
SPEAKER_00: They are so spectacular and wonderful.
51:05
SPEAKER_00: If you have children, if you are childlike, if you're a human, you will enjoy them.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: So um, you've been enjoying the Mystic Nerd Squad podcast, candid conversations for the curious.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Joy.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: I love that you were here with us tonight.
51:23
SPEAKER_01: It's been fabulous to speak with you, Kelly.
51:26
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for the chance.
51:28
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
51:30
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51:35
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51:39
SPEAKER_00: If you'd like to know more about me, head over to being wellwithkelly.com.
51:43
SPEAKER_00: Be well and follow your curiosity.
51:46
SPEAKER_00: You never know where it may lead you.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: Good night, everyone.