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Is This The Blackest X-Men '97 Has Ever Been?!?!? (X-Men '97 Season 2 Episode 1-3 Review & Recap) · For All Nerds Show

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  Speaker 1: And I've never ever liked Storm with T'Challa. I thought
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  Speaker 1: that was corny.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's take our two most prominent black characters
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  Speaker 2: and put them together.
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  Speaker 1: Thought that was always back and fighting. What's up, y'all?
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  Speaker 1: Your boy DJ been on me aka n Saba.
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  Speaker 3: You're and this is Joel aka Silock and drop.
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  Speaker 4: It and we are here to review the first three
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  Speaker 4: episodes of the second season of X Men ninety seven.
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  Speaker 1: That day he threw me off with that one. So overall,
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  Speaker 1: first three episodes, you're feeling it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm here for it. I love it all right? No, no,
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  Speaker 2: I mean you have notes and we'll get to that.
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  Speaker 2: But overall, no real.
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  Speaker 1: Complaints about the first three episodes ninety seven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no real complaints. I'm just here to see
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  Speaker 3: where it's going to go next. Like, I'm very curious
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  Speaker 3: where the story is going to go, and knowing that,
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  Speaker 3: like there's at least two more seasons, I'm like, so,
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  Speaker 3: what is this? Where is the story going to go
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  Speaker 3: after this season? Because it seems like they're doing kind
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  Speaker 3: of like a focused villain for each season, and so
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  Speaker 3: this season is apocalypse. I just am curious who's next
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  Speaker 3: or what is going to be the main antagonist in
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  Speaker 3: the next season.
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  Speaker 2: Hm hmm, yeah, because the first season mainly was bashed
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  Speaker 2: and when all was said and done, I guess right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because it's like it kind of I mean, Magneto is there,
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  Speaker 2: and the conflict between Mannito and Xavier, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: love hate relationship is there. Yeah, but it's really bashed
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  Speaker 2: and who's really the main antagonist of season two?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's season one.
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  Speaker 3: Last season it was like humanity and like everyone who
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  Speaker 3: hates Musicans And now it's like the call is coming
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  Speaker 3: from inside the house. Now we got to figure out
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  Speaker 3: what's going on with our own people.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say, you know it like, I'm so happy
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  Speaker 2: that this show is back and that it's bringing the
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  Speaker 2: same level that we got in season one. And that
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  Speaker 2: was something I was definitely a little worried about because
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  Speaker 2: you know, we know about all the behind the scenes
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  Speaker 2: scenes going on with Beau Demayo, and we still see
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  Speaker 2: Bo's name.
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  Speaker 3: When I saw executive producer, Okay, you got your name
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  Speaker 3: there still.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember when Bo was definitely talking about how
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  Speaker 2: their name was not going to be on it, and
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  Speaker 2: their name has been on every episode as executive producer still,
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  Speaker 2: you know, showrunner. I know they wrote a lot of
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  Speaker 2: this season, and you know, there was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes we weren't sure what version of this
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  Speaker 2: season we were going to get because I personally have
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  Speaker 2: been on shows when the showrunners have been fired and
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  Speaker 2: the season that you saw was not the season that.
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  Speaker 1: I worked on. Yes, So you know, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Sure how much of this season is the season that
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  Speaker 2: Bo worked on, but I think it is a lot
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's what I read was that, like
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  Speaker 3: they used a lot of his notes and structure.
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  Speaker 2: For yeah, because it would be pretty difficult to not
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  Speaker 2: do it, honestly. And that was one thing that I
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  Speaker 2: really loved is we've seen some of the after effects
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  Speaker 2: from season one, like when we see the news reporter
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  Speaker 2: on screen and they're covered in the Sentinel.
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  Speaker 1: Tech, which was just hilarious to me.
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  Speaker 2: And kind of like a call back to me like
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  Speaker 2: Batman eighty seven, the original Batman Michael Keaton movie, when
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  Speaker 2: the sugar starts threatening the city and he's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: putting poison in all the cosmetics, and then in the
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  Speaker 2: next scene you see the news reporter show up and
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  Speaker 2: they're all messed up because they're not wearing any makeup
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  Speaker 2: or anything.
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  Speaker 1: So I felt like.
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  Speaker 2: That was kind of a call back to that and
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  Speaker 2: just also a call back to the first season and
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  Speaker 2: really dope to see.
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  Speaker 1: I always love shows like that, animated or not.
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  Speaker 2: Whenever you see the effects of something like uh, are
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  Speaker 2: always sunny in Philadelphia? Is excellent at that, Like if
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  Speaker 2: they break the door to the bar, it's broken for
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  Speaker 2: the next five episodes.
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, I love I love continuity, Like yeah, details
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  Speaker 3: of continuity, Like oh yeah, I do remember that specific episode,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm glad that that's still a thing.
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  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: We had the first episode which was Days of Past Future,
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  Speaker 2: So that's the one where we're going into the future
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  Speaker 2: and seeing what happened to the X Men team that
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  Speaker 2: went into the future, right, yep, when that storm and
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  Speaker 2: of course Forge going after them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Forge went after Storm, Gene, Cyclops, Morph and Wolverine.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. My first thing is this, I think this is.
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  Speaker 2: My first note really is that the whole Storm in
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  Speaker 2: Forge relationship seems to be speed running, Like I didn't
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  Speaker 2: really notice it happening, and now they're just you know,
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  Speaker 2: she's over excited to see him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it kind of felt like Forge was a little
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  Speaker 3: more excited than Storm because they were having that conversation
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  Speaker 3: and he was like, how is this gonna work?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah's work, And that was also like I thought that
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  Speaker 5: was cute but also weird because he talked about how
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  Speaker 5: he's a man of science when we see this man
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  Speaker 5: using magic.
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  Speaker 3: Right, you're literally a descendant of Shamans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like we've seen you use magic, like you have
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  Speaker 2: to have some type of faith.
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  Speaker 3: But he did like reject the magic side of him,
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  Speaker 3: like I know, yeah, but.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but then the other side of it is
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  Speaker 2: I really did enjoy the little mini arc with him
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  Speaker 2: by the because by the end of the episode, he's like,
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  Speaker 2: why the goddess? You know, So he comes around real
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  Speaker 2: my girl, he sees black woman magic and he just
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  Speaker 2: did faith immediately.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, you're not mad at hot take. I'd rather
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  Speaker 3: see her with Force and with T'Challa.
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  Speaker 1: So that's not even a hot tape to me.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, let me say that definitively that
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  Speaker 2: I've always been a Storm Forged.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's who I grew up on.
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  Speaker 2: I know it's a toxic as relationship, but it's just
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  Speaker 2: a relationship that I've just always.
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  Speaker 1: Loved and I've never ever liked Storm with a challa.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was corny.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's take our two most prominent black characters
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  Speaker 2: and put them together. Thought that was always back and
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  Speaker 2: fight me. And I know I'm about to get roasted
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  Speaker 2: for this one. I already know I get roasted for
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  Speaker 2: this one every time, and I don't care Stormage Forge forever,
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  Speaker 2: and I love that we're seeing it in this Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But I do agree back to your point that like
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  Speaker 3: when when did y'all get so like intimate, Like like
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  Speaker 3: I know that y'all been through some stuff in the desert,
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  Speaker 3: but it just was like, okay, so Yellow Yellow couple now,
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  Speaker 3: or at least Forge thinks they're a couple.
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  Speaker 1: I mean she was, you know, they were definitely kissing
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  Speaker 1: on each other.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, happy when she saw him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's what it was that episode
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  Speaker 2: that we saw before us, the speed Run, because even
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  Speaker 2: in that episode, I felt like it moved very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, they had their time and the desert,
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  Speaker 2: they went their trials and tribulations, and now we're here, so.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, how'd you feel about Bone Wolverine now
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  Speaker 3: because you know, his metal got taken out last season.
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  Speaker 2: Once again, they really speed right now, Like I you know,
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  Speaker 2: because I know in the comics when he loses the metal,
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  Speaker 2: he becomes super Fero Wolverine, and it does not feel
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  Speaker 2: like we're going to get that arc at all. That
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  Speaker 2: feels like because they've been out in the future for
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  Speaker 2: months and said.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a time jump, like.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe they already dealt with that, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: already he already went Faraoh and recovered from it, and
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  Speaker 2: now it's just bone Claw Wolverine, which doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: make much difference so far.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I was like when he first popped up
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  Speaker 3: on the scene and he was like stabbing the robots,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, dang, your bones are that strong that
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  Speaker 3: they they go through metal.
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  Speaker 2: But that's how it was in the comics, and some
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  Speaker 2: issues they be breaking and shot issues. He teared through
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  Speaker 2: a sento.
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  Speaker 3: They weren't breaking though, And I did appreciate that detail,
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  Speaker 3: like you could see like his claus kept breaking off,
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  Speaker 3: but because he has the healing power, they kept.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, I got to rewatch that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like as he's like slicing and dicing up the robots.
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  Speaker 3: You can see like chunks of his claws like flying
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  Speaker 3: off because I was like, yeah, his his claws aren't
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  Speaker 3: super strong without the metal.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's yeah, that's a little detail that I love. Incredible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: But other than that, it was just you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: cool whatever.
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  Speaker 2: But I did like the little references to their costumes,
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  Speaker 2: like in the future they're wearing cyclops and Gene especially
• 8:36
  Speaker 2: are wearing a version of their X Factor costumes they wore. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's the the underneath costume. The red and the blue
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  Speaker 2: are both like middle of the run of X Factor
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  Speaker 2: when they got there, and beast, where's this brown and yellow?
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  Speaker 2: There's like some of the ugliest version of their at
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  Speaker 2: Those costumes in general are pretty ugly, but it's one
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  Speaker 2: of those things where it's like, yes, you know, we
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  Speaker 2: get to see this hideous costume that I remember from
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  Speaker 2: my childhood on screen, so you know, it works.
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  Speaker 3: That's how I feel about Sunspots costume, Like the one
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  Speaker 3: with the neck and Everything's costume is hideous to me.
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  Speaker 3: Why does he look like a ninja turtle?
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  Speaker 2: I have that action figure because that was the only
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  Speaker 2: sun Spot they made at the time.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I wanted him in the original of the
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  Speaker 1: mutant's costume.
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  Speaker 3: But right they you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, they gave me this red and blue Hidios thing
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  Speaker 2: with this neck wear, and you know, Roberto, you've done better.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, you know that's what I guess.
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  Speaker 3: That's what happens when you get cut off from the money.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta make shift something.
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  Speaker 1: Real clear to make it work.
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  Speaker 2: So how did you feel about the big storm moment
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  Speaker 2: in this episode?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? I loved it, Like it was just so cool
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  Speaker 3: to see them like showing the full extent of storms
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  Speaker 3: powers and I think, like it really just made me
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: think of Planet size X Men and Run where they
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: show her like creating the atmosphere on Mars for Arocco.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, space is part of the weather.
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  Speaker 3: She's gonna control it any way she can, like and
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  Speaker 3: I like that. Another Askani was like, yeah, I've seen
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  Speaker 3: you do this, girl like you. And then the other
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  Speaker 3: thing I liked was it wasn't like oh she was
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  Speaker 3: she was struggling and she had to like dig down deep,
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  Speaker 3: just like she was like, Oh, okay, Son, do your stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Straight up? What you think? I loved it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I love every time like Storm and Cyclops.
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  Speaker 2: I think in X Men ninety seven are two of
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  Speaker 2: my favorites because they're two of my favorite characters. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they're probably my the first two characters I fell in
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  Speaker 2: love with the X Men was Cyclops in Storm and
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  Speaker 2: to see them shine like this in ninety seven, it's
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  Speaker 2: just been great.
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  Speaker 3: From the Storm's themes, it's like, oh, I know what's up.
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  Speaker 2: And then Cyclops has just been amazing. So yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: both of them shining. Every time they do, it's been great.
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  Speaker 2: So no, and then.
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  Speaker 1: Mother as Skannie, they never, like, I'm not I watched
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of the original episodes. I can't remember this the first
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  Speaker 2: time we've seen her. But they never reveal exactly who
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: she is in this episode, do they.
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  Speaker 3: No, there's a lot of like strong hints yes and
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  Speaker 3: innuendos of who she is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you read the comics, it is you know,
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  Speaker 2: she is the same mother as Johnnie from the comics, which, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Rachel Summers, who is an alternate future version who is
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  Speaker 2: the daughter of Cyclops in Jean Gray. Yeah, yeah, but
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  Speaker 2: not this Cyclops in Jean Gray. I guess I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure it'sact now it works out now.
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  Speaker 3: It's like a is she I think that's why is
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  Speaker 3: she the same in the same time, And as like
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  Speaker 3: where Bishop is from or is that different?
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  Speaker 2: For a long time, and I mean most to my
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  Speaker 2: lifelong time, I was always really confused about where Bishop
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  Speaker 2: comes from. But recently I was reading something that made
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  Speaker 2: it kind of player to me. So it's like, then
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  Speaker 2: the timeline goes, you know, we're in the present and
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  Speaker 2: then the Sentinels Days of Future Passed happens where the
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  Speaker 2: Sentinels arise and they rub out all the mutants and
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  Speaker 2: everybody goes into this resistance thing, and that's where Rachel
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  Speaker 2: becomes a hound.
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  Speaker 1: Who's other mutants?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, days the futures past.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and then sometime after that the mutants rise up
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  Speaker 2: and established the ex Security whatever it is that built
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  Speaker 2: that Bishop is part of. So that's all on the
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  Speaker 2: same timeline now from what I understand. So Bishop comes
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  Speaker 2: from it a little bit ahead of where Rachel is in,
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  Speaker 2: but they're all from one timeline. Okay, Okay, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think that always was the case, and I think Marvel
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  Speaker 2: just simplified it recently, or you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, the players go back and reckon something, yeah, to
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  Speaker 3: make it work for whatever they want to do.
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  Speaker 1: And that's probably for the best because it was always
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  Speaker 1: weird to me that there were two separate apocalyptic you know,
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  Speaker 1: futures from the Mutant site.
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  Speaker 2: That was just weird. So yeah, so they hinted it.
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  Speaker 2: Throughout the episode, we see her use a lot of power.
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  Speaker 1: She talks about her time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, ability to manipulate time in a way, all
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  Speaker 2: the things of Rachel Summers. When she pulls off the mask,
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  Speaker 2: we see the marks of the towns on her face.
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  Speaker 3: She got that same g I Jane buzz cut love.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, but she never mentions to cyclops from your daughter
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  Speaker 2: and I don't. Yeah, people are gonna have to help
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  Speaker 2: me out on this. I don't know if in the
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  Speaker 2: original X Men run of ninety of you know, ninety seven,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, but it's it called this X Men the
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  Speaker 2: animated series an original run, did Rachel or mother as.
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  Speaker 1: Johnnie ever show up. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So at the end of the episode, the future team
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  Speaker 2: of X Men gets return to the past as leaving
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  Speaker 2: young Cable Nathan in the future as it goes into comics.
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  Speaker 2: This is definitely a renditional version of the Adventures of
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  Speaker 2: slim and I can't remember what Gene is, probably in
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  Speaker 2: the past, but there was a couple of limited series
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  Speaker 2: where they show Gene and Stott in the future raising
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  Speaker 2: Nathan Summers, and so this, yeah, this is from this
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  Speaker 2: is taken from that limited series. A lot of the outfits,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the clothing, the Dayspring, all that stuff
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  Speaker 2: comes up in this.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the astroni Plan all that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So that's you know, if you want to go
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: in and read those, you can definitely check them out.
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  Speaker 2: They're pretty interesting and they have a one of them
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  Speaker 2: features a rebirth of Apocalypse in the future as well.
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  Speaker 3: So in that comic, do they do they also not
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  Speaker 3: tell Nathan who they are.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I know in the original limited series
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  Speaker 2: they don't, and then I think maybe in the second
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  Speaker 2: one they do. But I know an the original they
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  Speaker 2: don't because it's to preserve you know, the whole timeline
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  Speaker 2: and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to rewatch it because at first I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 3: you don't know who they are, and then they have
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  Speaker 3: the conversation on the train and they're over here like
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  Speaker 3: confessing the memory of when they you know, send him
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  Speaker 3: to the future, and I was just confused, like, you
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  Speaker 3: don't know that these are your parents?
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  Speaker 1: No, he does not know that they're his parents.
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  Speaker 2: And because Cable finds out, you know, as a grown
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  Speaker 2: person that he you know, yeah, but not as a kid.
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  Speaker 1: No, So I think you know, they feel like it'll
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  Speaker 1: mess it all up or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well did they because they wanted to stay behind.
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  Speaker 1: Look you know what I mean, I'm gonna wave my
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  Speaker 1: hands on that when in.
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  Speaker 2: Keep a moving to episode two. I think that's pretty
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: much everything we had to say about him.
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  Speaker 3: So on the one thing that I wanted to say
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  Speaker 3: the episode Yes, the Horsemen of the Future apocaly Yo Fire,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, who are these people? I've never
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: seen them before in my life, but I love them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so I I didn't have time to find out.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, so I've read a lot of comic comics.
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  Speaker 2: I've never seen this version of the Horseman.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I was like, I don't think I seen
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  Speaker 3: them before.
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  Speaker 1: In comments Okay, I wasn't sure if I missed them
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  Speaker 1: or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I mean they were definitely famine, war, pestilence.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: And death. I guess, Yeah, I'm not sure which was which.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like the drummer was probably pestilence.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Or famine one or two.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I think I think the drummer was war
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: because ope, the same powers as Green Bowl cut War
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: that we see in episode two. Okay, yeah, I don't
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: know who death. Oh, because then there's also that the
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: giant Minito be Death. Yeah maybe that was Death. Yeah,
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: I was laughing at he wasn't part of the Horseman,
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: but he was like Apocalypse's right hand man.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Oh Osmondais right, yeah.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: He gave me my vibes from Thundercat.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I was like, who is this, mamra man that is
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: helping out Apocalypse.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: He's from the comments too. I think his name is
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Osmond Deis. I think like the dude and Watchman.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I think he's.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was his name because it showed up in
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the subtitle.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: But I was like, okay, in my life, yeah, yeah,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: he's definitely from the comments for his old stone self.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like Johnny West Mamra. I was like, who is.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: This all right?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: So the episode two now, episode two, this is the
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: one you know where I'm I'm pretty much jumped out
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: of my seat, like I jumped out of my seat
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: screaming and I think a lot of people are got
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: that same reaction to the so what's the name of
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: this team? Line? And the X Force opening that was
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: just that was lit. I'm still sitting.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Here like, ah, yeah, I did that right right, you know.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: It was like the first in the first season when
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I noticed that they were changing out people. You know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: when Gambi gets killed and he's not in the opening.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like immediately you're like, that's that's not the Blackbird,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Like what's.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but all the same looks, you know, cable as
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: sipops to close up on his eye, runs by, just
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: all the little details, but flipped to X Force was
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: that was just incredible.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Even like the in the X Men opening when like
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I think it's Jubilee that runs up against the fence. Yes,
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: it was one of the like young mus Quintin.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Quintin and what's the name is by the side? Chambers
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: by side?
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: All that The funniest part to me though, in the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: whole little opening is Apocalypse grabbing Archangel.
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: And using him as a huge shield. Oh, it's the details.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: And then when they're running against each other it's the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Horsemen versus Egg Force, and and you see like the
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: Black Angel running in the middle with a few of
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: the other kids.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Just just excellent.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And I mean just the whole line. You know, what's
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: the name of this team? And then you know perfection
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: that was perfection and uh you know something that is
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: in perfection.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, let's talk about this team though.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Joel made a video that I just checked that,
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: you know, three comments less.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It was a lot.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: It's still being talked about.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Still being talked about.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Where Joel discussed the history of Silocked aka Betsy Braddock
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: aka kan and I guess.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, people have been blowing me up telling me
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the w asylent. I'm like, okay, how was I supposed
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: to know?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: But what is it.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Cannon or something? Yeah, that's it's a made up name.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, I was like, there's no silent w
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: in Japanese like Quanta.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I always went with Quanta, even that name
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: when I remember they first introduced it, I was like, Quanta,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: what Kaanna?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I guess you know, but oh yeah.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So Joel detailed the history of Betsy Braddock and how.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: There's you know, a bit.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Of interesting history when it comes to Silo's origins with
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Christopher Claremont, who took her from a white British woman
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and transformed her into a Japanese ninja. And Chris Claremont
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: does this type of thing more often than not. He
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: has turned two white police officers into Native Americans and
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: then put them into a super weird sex torture thing.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: So you don't know about that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: You don't know about Okay, Well, it's two characters I
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: can't remember. I think Friedlander is their last name. I
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: can't remember their first days, but they're two Caucasian police
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: officers who are involved with the New Mutants and stuff
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the Demon Bear storyline which had to do with Danny Moonstar.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: During that they get transformed into Native Americans.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Why not A few issues?
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: A few issues later, along comes Impath, who is a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: villain of the New Mutants and has the ability to
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: control emotions, and so he sees them, you know, they're
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: spying on him. Well, he's actually spying on the New
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Mutants and they catch him, and so he's like, you
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: will love each other like no one else. So they
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: start kissing and fonneling on each other immediately in front
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of him, and that's the last we see of Roim
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: for like of them for like, you know, I don't know,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: twelve issues or so, and so they show up again
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: dressed in like straight up Gump costumes, you know, black
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: leather and everything and tattoos and mohawks and all kinds
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: of shit in there, like we've just been fucking for
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the last twelve months, you know, we can't control it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because he never took it off.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: No, he never took it off. Yeah, he just left
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: them there.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: So my job like eight reading this full time, like
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: eight years old reading this ish and this is a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: common thing with you know, Chris Claremont and X men.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Like I was funny because I was just on vacation
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: and I was explaining this whole thing to a friend
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: of mine who does not read comments like that. You know,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's I was trying to explain to him. No, this
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: is just They were like, well, maybe it was just something.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I was like, No, this is what Chris Claremont does
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: on the regular. At one point, the Professor X just
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: captured by the Morlocks and is dressed up once again
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: in a gumph costume.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: This is just something that he loves, you know.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: And it's a signature, you know.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's his sydustry.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: He you know, he likes that Sado massacre stuff, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: he likes Asians, and he likes women, and you know,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: he likes the storyline of a woman being beaten down
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and built back up to where she's stronger him before,
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you know, but she always has to be beat down first.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: That is definitely Chris Claremont trademark. Okay, So that being said,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: you made this video, it's played in this history and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: how a simple fix to this would just be to
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: have Silot be Quanning from the jump in the animated
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: series and not deal with the whole body switching to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Betsy Bradditt's character, because in the current continuity of comments,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Betsy Braddock is back in her Caucasian body and Quannon
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: is silocked.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, Betsy is Captain Britain right now.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'm not sure if she's dead or not.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: She died during it was rough. I was I was
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: qubitbe pissed about.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: That, but she stayed dead for a minute.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It was unnecessary anyway, we were waiting with baited breath
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: for this episode.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Yes, and uh, Silac has a deep British.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very interesting because I do know the voice
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: actress is Japanese. Wow, So I'm like, is she British Japanese?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And then it's like, so is this your weird compromise, like, Oh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: we're gonna make her Asian, but we're gonna have a
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: nod to Betsy with a British accent. I feel like, yeah,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: people have like sent me pictures which thank you, I've
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I've received them that on like the X Men trading
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: cards for ninety seven that she is listed as Quanan. Okay,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: so I guess it is her. She is They've never
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: said her name yet so far, but it looks like
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: that is the direction they are going. It is just
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: kind of weird that, like, okay, you want to give
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: her a British accent to be like shout out to
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: all my Betsy fans.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Like, I mean, I kind of get it, you know
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: because for a lot of people, you know, that's all
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: they grew up with, Yeah, was see as you know,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: a Japanese woman. And for a lot of them, they
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: didn't even understand, you know, because it's not something that's
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: brought up every issue that I used to be white
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: and you know, so it was just it was just
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Betsy Braddock somehow it's a Japanese woman.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: You know, that's just what it was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: If it wasn't like a disclaimer, every Syclock comic like
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: contain it contains yellow face, and.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: That's just okay.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Now, this comment came up today and I guess we
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: need to address it right now, because someone was like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: it's not you know, they felt it was disingenuous to
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: call it yellow face because yellow face is someone, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Caucasian descent, you see mocking Japanese culture. And I displained
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: to them that it doesn't always have to be mocking.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like the same case as when the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: punisher becomes black for a.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Few issues and immediately teams up with Luke Cage.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's bad enough that he becomes black, but
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the fact that you're like, oh, now he's black and.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: He meets Luke Cage immediately is where it really just just.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, y'all, why you know, this is what we call
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: black face whatever.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: It's just whether you want to call yellow face whatever.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: It was wild out like Chris.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: Claron right, Like, yeah, Chris Claremont has always been a
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: wild boy. He just got away with a lot of
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: things because he was the best selling that's been all yeah,
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: and the story he's all like I said, look up
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Chris Claremont turning these two white people in the Native Americans.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, for absolutely no reason. It's just like, no reasons,
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: some leader Native American and then effort, I'm going to
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: have him become sex slaves.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: You know, that's the wildest part.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: It's funny that that's the wildest part though, you know
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: it is. It is, don't get me wrong, but it's
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: just wild that you know, somebody somebody Native American. You know, no,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: that's cool, but yeah, watch hold my beer on me,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: Watch what I do next? And the panel when they
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: show back of FAM, it's like burden into my memory
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: because they're like, you know, in black leather, all these
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: ear rings, nose rings and you know, because you can't
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: do nipple rings and stuff. You know, it's just and
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's freezing cold and they're like shivering. You know,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: they've just been out there fucking and stuff.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: It's just like A told you.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: It was just like, oh, look at these cool outfits.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: A year old, we was like, look at these cool outfits.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But also you know, you know, my sexuality is being
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: formed right here folks like, yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: That's that's where Goblin Queen comes from.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Look, you know it was right down the line.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: For me, it was you know, it was a straight
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: path through Chris Clarrmark comics where you know Mohawks Storm,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you know there's a line that's drawn and you know
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Alien Terminator or two.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You know, like, yeah, now, I will say because you
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: know people love to say, like, why don't I just
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: appreciate it and enjoy Sidelock?
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Was that girl?
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: An episode? Was that the way from the moment she
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: jumped off that roof and landed on that car in Brazil,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: and like the way they're showcasing her fighting and her
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: power is like, I am, I'm locked in first, I lock.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I've always liked Sielock, but I was like, okay, y'all
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: doing her right at least fighting wise, action wise, like
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: showing her powers with the psychic blades, her little butterfly
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: that always comes up. That was cool to see.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that her ruthlessness.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was definitely down for This was the X
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Force that I love that I wish I'd been reading
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: as a kid, cause when I was a kid, it
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: was the same thing.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Ed Force was like, Oh, we're gonna kill everybody.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And then they killed nobody, you know, and then in
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: this one they dead up war immediately, I'm down for it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Sorry you believe keep that crying to the side. Ain't
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: nobody got time for that over here, you know, we
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are dealing with these fools, and no, I was down
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: for it. How did you feel about the Black cops of.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so X Factor showed up and I was just like, immediately,
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: it just reminded me of siliv in Oakland. There was
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: a time like a year ago or so where like
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: all the bulletin boards in Oakland were like join the
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Oakland Police Department and it was all the only featured
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: offices of color. So that's just what it gave me.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: It was like, Oh, come help support your community by
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like fu boo policing like and I think like too,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: it reminded me of the most recent X Factor. I
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: think it's like the from the Ashes one is kind
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: of similar, Like they're just they're just being uh what
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: did Cable said? Uncle Sam's like lap dogs, Like you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: they're just they're just a face so that they can
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: say that they're supporting mutants. But like y'all are any
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: better than the than the regular humans that hey, y'all.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Did she call him Timus Cyclops or is that what
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: I make I think she said second rate.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Sydeclops side Clops and I love X Factor.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: For those who haven't ever read it, there's a run
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: where they wear these This is the first when they
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: first debut the outfits that you've seen in this episode
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: by Peter David of X Factor.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: That is just phenomenal.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Peter David, the Rest in Peace is one of my
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: favorite comic book writers of all time.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: He did an incredible, incredible Hulk.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Run No pun intended, and then he did the all new,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: all different X Factor with Larry Stroman, who's a black
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: artist or art and that is one of the others.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: It's one of the funniest runs. It's all the way
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: out there. Stroman's art is super out there, so check
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it out if you have a chance. And that's when
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: they first wear these problems that I've always loved. Yeah,
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: and also in that run, working with Al Cooper, they
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: are government. It's after it because it happens right after
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: the big I think that extinction agenda where like the
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: h men get all busted up himself, so they need
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: to you know, have a public face.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: So that's when Ed Traffic goes to work for the government.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, and that the roster seems very similar
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: to that.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is that roster is straight up front that run.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: It is Havid Polaris strong Guy Wolf Spain and multiple
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Man and multiple Man. Yeah, that is that run straight
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: up from that run. And he's the one who really
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: mates multiple Peter. David mates multiple Man in the character
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: where I think I think he does that mini series
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of the series that Matt Drafts had as well, but
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: he makes him into like a real character in that run.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he shines in that run.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: And so how are you feeling about Havoc?
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: I feel Look, I'm I'm a Summers, you know, the
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: whole family. Summer's Jeane everyone, you know, maddling, Havoc. Everybody
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: is just some of my favorite characters. But he's Timus Cyclops,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: you know. And that's Jackie who he is. He's always
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: a sucker who's trying.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: To do the like that's the problem with he.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: It's funny when Tana be dogging, you know, you know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: shout out to Tatana, King Foreigners, you know, Queen of
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the Foreigners family, she stayed dogging Cyclops and who she
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: needs to be dogging is Avid because who she thinaks
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Cyclops is is who Avic actually is.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: He's the silm side. Clops is not the silm.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I'm also a Cyclops hater, so I will wow. But
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: I will say, Jesus out of out of the two,
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: Havoc is Havoc is What.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Is the hate for Sydeclops? How can you hate the god?
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Just it's just not for me. He's not for you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I respect what he does for the team and for
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I will always for mutants, but it's just maybe it's
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the corniness a little bit for me, Like he just
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: gives I think it's like similar to why I don't
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: like Superman. They just kind of both give Boy Scout energy.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: I will say, Cyclops will get down and dirty more. Yes, well,
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: it's like if it's for the mutant, cause he's for it,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and that's why I will give him that respect. But
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: it's just he's never grabbed me as a character.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: That like the someone asks, you know, name a Marvel
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: character without naming them on threats to the other day,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: and I just put it my favorite Cyclops line, if
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: it needs if it doesn't need doing, then it will
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: be done. That's who Cyclops is to me. You know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: it's like get it done by any means necessary. That's
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: who he is. He's never been a boy scout to me.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He's always been quite ruthless, you know about it. You know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: a military man. That's I think because of my father
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: being military and all that. I think that's where I'm like, Okay,
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: I can I mess with that? Yeah, but I also
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: see how people you know, control a simp and so
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: and all that.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: But really it's really heavy.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: It definitely is. Really there are literal especially when it
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: comes to Maddling Price. Oh my god, because the actual
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: comic panels of them in all these various costumes, and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: like Havoc will wear a collar and a leash for
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: that girl.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And this is like this ain't even a new development.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: This is like forty years of this man being a
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: simp for his brother's wife, like.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: His brother's wife's clothes. How sad is that? Talk about
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: t Moose Cyclops like your girl is your brother's wife's clone.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And you know that's funny too, because I remember when
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: they made him get back together recently and I was like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: what the hell? And then I'm like, wait, no, this
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: has always been the case, right, Yeah, this drove back.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: To the original Fern. So anything else about this episode
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: that you wanted to mention.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Well, I do want to mention the other major member
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: of X Factor, Polaris. Like I was, I was good
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: with my girl her and I was glad to see
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: you know, even though she joined the ops, she still
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: got her daddy in her. And she was like, you
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: know what, you got to point jubilation, Like, I understand
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: what you are saying.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I can't lie. I just love Polaris with that big
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: green hair. That just, man, you know, does something for me.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: And like you said, I love to see her, you
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: know always that's always her too, Like my man, you
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: know that's that's what.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I was saying.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I think that literally happened in the most recent X
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: Factor of what is Like she sees Havoc as part
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: of X Factor and it's like, eh, yeah, you're right
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: that what are you doing girl?
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that whole interaction. I love seeing Jubilee shine.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I wasn't really a big fan of the music choice.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan of that either.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, James Gunnish.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: It did, but I really like getting to see that,
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: like Jubilee is more than just like sparklers and fireworks,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Like she finally has hands, you know, like fist fighting,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and I think, like to which I'm hoping to see,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: like the way that they show the extent of Storm's power,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Like I would like to see the extent of Jubilee's power,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Like I remember in did you read I think it's
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: called Executioners or something in the Kerkoha run where it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: like Jubilee X twenty three dazzler and boom boom, yes,
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: ye yes, literally it's like an atomic bomb, and I'm like, yeah,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: I love to see more of that, Like she can
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: make those fireworks like really powerful and cool to see
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: her like fighting with them. When she had to like
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: kick herself off the wall by like blasting her fireworks
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: like like a jack. I was like that was cool
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: to see. And so it's nice to see her also
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: like come into her own because you know, she has
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: to grow up because her her eld isn't around anymore,
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: like all of her family is not there. She's got
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: to like she turned eighteen last season, and so now
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: she really has to become an adult, which is nice
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: to see for Jubilee.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: I even love again when we talk about the opening,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that real quick shot of her training with silocks. Yes,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: and she's blindfold I oh, that's so fired because it also,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you know, a called back to the comics when Jubilee
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: doesn't she become a ninja at one point, I know,
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: she becomes a vampire.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: She has a vampire. She she does some weird stuff
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: to comment.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: Look, this is comics, folks, you know. I mean she
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: was like a vampire mother.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: She was a vampire. I hated when she got that baby.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I was like, but doesn't she have like a baby
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: turned into a dragon.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: And yes, yes, that's like not her baby.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I just I didn't I thought it was her baby.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: See I didn't even know.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: No, it's like not her like blood, like she didn't
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: birth that baby. Yeah, okay, she just wants you to go,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be my baby.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Comics, everybody, you know, That's all. It's all he could say.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Right here.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: Comics everybody, right right, especially X Men comics, they do.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Some wild I mean I already told y'all.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: See you didn't even know about that, man, I'm telling
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: you I might mad to do Top five Weirdest Chris
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Claire mock moments because there's a lot of them.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Oh. The only other thing I say about two,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I want to see more Emma Frost. I almost forgot
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: And I've been seeing people are like, oh, like Emma
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: sold them out, blah blah blah blah blah, and I'm
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: kind of like, look, you need to understand who Emma is. One,
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: She's always going to be about that bag. But two, like,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: and I think I think this is what I like,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: would like to see more of later. Is I remember
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: in New X Men the scene when Emma arises from
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: the ashes of Genosha and she's holding that like dead
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: girl mutant, Like Emma always loves the kids and so
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: like maybe she sient Xpactor to get exports because she
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: knew exports would free all the kids that X Factor
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: has kidding, and so like I want to see them unpacked, Like, yeah,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: Emma always is going to have this like tough diamond
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: exterior where she knows she acts like she doesn't care,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: but like she is traumatized, like that girl survived a
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: genocide on her people, and I would like to see
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: them unpack that like I remember, and I think it's
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: a moral X Men. There's like that panel of her
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: she sleeps in her diamond form, because like that's how
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: she feels safe from all the stuff that she's experienced,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: and so I just like I would like them to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: explore that other side, Like, yeah, she's always going to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: be this bad bitch that with her fake British accent,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: being snarky and sassy, but like she also has feelings
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: and there's like some complex pieces that would be cool
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: to see.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: It really would be I mean, I would love just
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: to see a whole episode from Emma. Yes, but I
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: don't know ify have time or all that, but that
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: would be fantastic if we could get that episode where
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: you see that where we see the Janosha and everything
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: she does after it and all that type of things.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And like you said, she's one of my favorite characters,
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and a lot of it came from the New X
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Men run when Morrison comes in and just redefines her.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: As much as I love Scott and Jean and I
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: feel like they are, you know, meant for each other,
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Scott and Emma are also really dope to me, and
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: that was one of my favorite couples. But I also
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: like to see Emma by herself, So I'm happy that
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: they're not, you know, tying her down to Stott in
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: this series, but I would like to see a lot
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: more of her, And I hope that people aren't taking
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: that that she betrayed them, because that's I didn't read
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: it at all that either.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: I read it like you said. One, she brought them together.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're gonna fight, like you see she literally says yawn, yeah,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: you know when they start fighting, like because she knows
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: that this is what they're gonna do and then eventually
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: to work it out and the right thing will happen.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: And that's how I tooke it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: So no, thank you for mentioning that, because I definitely
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: wanted to mention Emma, because Emma frost Man just one
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: of my favorite characters, like man, just the best of her.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: One more three yes, Rise of Apocalypse Part one, which
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: leaves us on the big cliffhanger as White Rama.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Tut as White King.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: All right. For those that.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Don't know real quick, Rama Tut, who we see in
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: this episode in the comic books.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Is another version of King.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: King has many identities as he travels throughout time and
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: at one point he goes back to the past and
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: assumes the identity of an Egyptian pharaoh so he can.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Rule over everyone.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: And so the dude we see in this episode is
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: probably King, who also becomes im Mortis, uh.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Iron Lad and King, right, I think that's all of them.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: Then what's the he who remains?
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: He who remains the other guy from the second season
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: of Loki.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in this one arcade is kind of white and.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Uh it's interesting seeing him, you know, the white Egyptian
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: in front of all these brown Egyptians.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: So this episode is about the X Men team who
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: got sent back to the past to hopefully try and
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: stop in Sabneur Apocalypse before he becomes Apocalypse. And hopefully
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: that's their plan, is to somehow stop him from becoming Apocalypse.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: This team is Charles Magneto, Nightcrawler, Rogue, and Beast.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, du Beast, that's the the Beast.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I didn't realize it was Dub East,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: but you know, that's how he's listening to dub Beast.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So they're back in the past and this episode a
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: lot of it is like a philosophical discussion between and Magneto,
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: which I found really dope.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: A lot of the dialogue, you know, a lot.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Of that felt very black, very you know, coded in
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: the oppressor talk. Magnito telling him that, you know, how
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: the oppressor wants to see you is weak, and you know,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: all this type of stuff was very beautiful, you know. Yeah,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I felt boue to my own team's you know, hands
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: all over this one.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: So and so is Magneto still right?
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean as always.
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you can still get these shirts
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: that we're rocking right now on four nerds dot com.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Make sure you go pick that up. Why you can, I'm.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Not sure if you can, but you know, if you can,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: the silver or Magneto is right available on foll nerds
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: dot com. You enjoy both rocking, go get you one
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: asap rocking. So, yeah, Magneto is still right.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: You know. Charles, you know, and him have this discussion
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: where I.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Don't know what what Charles's point was other than just
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: being a hater real, I don't really.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Charles was like, so, your plan is to change
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Apocalypse's mind so that instead of being a tyrant, he
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: becomes a champion for my vision, my dream.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes, it doesn't that sound like a
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: good ass plan?
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I guess. I was like, so, I was trying to
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: think about it and like our contexts, and it's like, so,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: would this be like if someone went back in time
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: to try to change like Hitler's mind or something. Yes,
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: would we feel the same way in that context?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, let me put into the context that
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I can you know, person relate to if you were like,
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: go back in time and stop people from going Africa
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: and slaving everyone.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yes, yes, nigga.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, like if stay your asses in the caves and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: you know, stop fucking with black people.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that is true.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, nigga, do it man Needo do that shit
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: like oh, Ben, you won't exist, but your parents won't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: be Oh well, you know, like.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I gotta be sacrificed for you know, the
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: millions of Africans and you know, trillions right to be free.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, and I won't even know, you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: time changes, poop, I'm wiped off the you know distance.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe I still just in another timeline.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: That alternate version of you. Yeah, and then you know
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I'm me cstral trauma.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Like right now, we're in that, you know, we are
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: that alternate version, and someone's already fixed the main timeline,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: and unfortunately I'm just stuck in this one.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: We're stuck in days of the future past.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I'm happy it happened, and there's a
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: timeline out there where there's no slavery.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's beautiful thing.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. It was interesting that, Like it was
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: cool to see Magneto like not trying to be trying
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: to be like, don't don't kill him, Like, we gotta
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: be better. So it was cool to see the like
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: how the things from last season like still are having
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: an impact on him and how what is it What
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: does he say last season, I am trying to be better.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Don't let me make you down.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: And don't let me don't let me, don't let me
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: let you down, let me let yeah, don't or don't
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: make me let you down.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one or the other.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, And so in this one, he's actually
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: trying to save the dude who's serving rama Tuck, right, yeah,
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to go down that path that
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: he was going down last season.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: But it seems like that path is following him no
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: matter what.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: Because dude's head does get chopped off, the blood gets
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: splattered off, Magneto and Rama Tuck fires down the beam
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: to finish up the episode. Yes, Apocalypse seems like he's
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: not gonna be down with anything Mannito has to say
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: at this point, so that mission has failed and.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Converting hives on the scene to help out the crew.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: So this seems like one of those things where by
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: trying not to do it, they are doing it. They
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: are creating apocalypse by trying not to create Apocalypse, Right
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: am I reading this right?
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah? No?
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: I think that's what Like it kind of makes me think,
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: and it'd always talks about this before, like is is
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: ens becoming Apocalypse a canon event, Like no matter what
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: you do, it's always going to happen.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what they're saying here, is that
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: is doing to always be Apocalypse?
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, because even in the first episode there's a lot
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: of discussion between Mother Askani and Cyclops about like destiny
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: and like can't you can do all you can, but
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: you can't change your fate or like you can't exactly
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: alter the way of time the way you want it to,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Like it's always going to happen the way it's supposed
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: to m.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: And that's interesting. Like I've always like the thought experiment
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: I started doing is little kid was like, Okay, if
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: you're a standing on the street corner and you decide
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: to go left to right, that could change your life
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: in measurable ways, but you can only choose one of them,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and no matter how long you sit there, and if
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: you sit there thinking over it, that's also changing your
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: life in ways that you can't contemplate or understand. But
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: someone who's like looking at it from an outside perspective,
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: like a god or like they say, a four dimensional
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: being who can see the way your paths lean out
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: or see that we are. To them, we are faded
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: like to then we're reading, you know, like when we
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: read a book and we read a story, you can
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: flip from beginning to end, but the ending is still
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: the ending. But it's because we can't see the past.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: We think that we have choice and all this kind
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: of stuff. So it's kind of like it's a debate
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: from what It's more like, whatever your perspective is is
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: what makes it whether you have choice or not. Right,
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Like I believe we do have choice but I believe
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: that our choices are also faded.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: So like the destination doesn't change, but the journeys can
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: change depending on how you choose to move.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I think our life is about experiencing the journey. You know.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: It's like we don't really know what the journey's going
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: to be. You know, it's like you're just trying to
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: accept the journey kind of as it comes.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: See, because like I.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Said, you can sit there and choose left or right,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: you know this and all these things, but that doesn't change.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: You know, certain things are going to happen to you
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: no matter which way you go in life. You know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: things like you might get sick, you might, you know,
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: be healthy, you might just all these type of things
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: that no matter what you do, are going to happen,
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: you know, and it's how you effectively, how you react
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: to them is pretty much how I've always seen life,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: because I've definitely had some random ass things happen to
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: me where it's more like, Okay, am I gonna you know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: crumple and die from this?
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: Or am I gonna you know, grow stronger and move forward?
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: So yeah, which that does kind of make me feel
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: like mother Askani was kind of end up contradicting herself
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: because if she believes in these fates and destinies, why
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: did you bother bringing like putting the X Men into
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: these into these time periods if you believe in yourself
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: that like, no matter what happens, your destiny is your destiny. Like,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: how is putting them into these places to quote unquote
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: intervene going to change people's destinies?
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: And that's like, like I said, I believe that we
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: are fated, but I don't believe that that means I
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: don't live and I don't try and do things.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: It's like, because I also know that we you also
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: create your fate in a way, like I could sit
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: in this room and do nothing. Now that would now
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: like once again, if I was God, I would be like, well,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna sit in this room and
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: do nothing from the beginning.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That's you know, I saw that from the jump, fam
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you know. But to me, it's like I'm making this decision,
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: you know. But to someone on the outside looking in,
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: they're gonna see it. But I can also choose to
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: do whatever I want and achieve whatever I want.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And live my life.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: And so I think in that way it is, you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: we do have choice. And I think that's the way
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: mother astroning season too. I don't think she thinks that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: And once then it goes back to Terminator, like Terminator
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: in Terminator two, that's what they say, like, our fate
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: is not sealed, you know, the future is not set.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: That's what they're battling it gainst. Even though they've seen
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: things from the future, they believe that you can't change it.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: And in the.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Book and in the original script of the Terminator, they
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: do change it. You know, Terminator Too is the end
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: when they you know, melt down to Terminator everything the
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: future changed, there's no striying it. Yeah, but then money
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: had to be made and they're like, yeah, you know,
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: keep this going one way to the other.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: Let's let's figure out how we can still make this cash.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: But in the original script for Terminator two, that was
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: the end of it, and the future is changed. And
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: so that's what I do believe too. I believe that
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: we can change the future that it is. You know,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: nothing's set, that our choices do matter, that you know,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: we're here for a reason, but we also just can't
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: see that over thing that you know, if we could,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: we might not view it, that we might be like, oh,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: everything's set in stone.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good point.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: It's one of.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Those weird, you know, conundrums about bought in life and
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: existence and everything that you know, it's just very weird
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: because I do believe that everything happens for a reason
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and that this is all moving clockwork, you know, in
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: a way that we can't fathom.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Yes, life is a balance of our choices in the universe.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: That's a good way of seeing it. Yeah, yes.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: And so speaking of the future, what do you think
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: you have any predictions for Man the rest of the season.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, the ship's moving just like last season, did
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: It moves so fast that I really feel I have
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: no idea what they're going to get to.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about it, Man, and it's just like.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: There's so many possibilities because there's so much X men, Like,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: I know we're gonna see I don't know why, but
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: I know we're going to see the Grant Morrison.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Black and yellow costumes in good season. We're gonna know
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: because we're going to see Exodus y.
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: In the and we saw Exodus actually last season yep,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: in Genosha. So I think it'll be interesting to see
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: how they tie in his experience in Genosha to what
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: he's doing in this season.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Because men who because this is like the first time
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: we're seeing Exodus, right.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, and he's like Apocalypse's number one fan.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Right and then okay it see it's like with Apocalypse
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: being you know, the big villain or whatever of this season,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: does that mean we're going to get any hints to Krakoa, Like, oh,
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I was talking to Tie the Robot you
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: know four Onnards Family and they said, no chance, you know,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: never in this show.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: And I was like, why not? You know, like and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: how could you like if this show goes on for
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: five seasons?
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: And you know, the head of Disney whoever it is
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: right now, has said they wanted this show to come.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Out every year.
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: Every year.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: It wanted this to be a perennial. Every year we
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: get a new season of X ninety seven. Yeah, along
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: with the Spider Man Joint and I think dared Avore.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: They said those three they want to run until they
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: can't anymore.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean with X Men, they have plenty plenty
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: But there's like so why And then I was like, Okay,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the two things that I was thinking about. I was
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: hoping for was some hint of Cocoa and if we
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: don't get that, because I still feel like that could
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: be a few seasons away Cyclops in the X Mask,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: you know, Cyclops.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: In the full on you know, new and rebellion leader.
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: Mass like I mean, I will say there was because
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: I actually enjoyed this little like mini series. But there
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: was like an X Men ninety seven run where they
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: put the X Men animated series yep, and I thought
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: that was really cool because you can see like the
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: parallels and like who from the animated series takes on
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: rolls that like are different in the like I guess
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: main crocoa Ru and so like they have something right
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: there where there you easily use that to adapt X
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: Men ninety seven into Cocoa. It's going to be a
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: while away, like, yeah, we're not in a space where
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: everyone's going to be holding hands with apocalypse and being
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: like no later.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that history, you know, because that you know,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: to maybe show a flashback, you know, just a quick
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: hint to show, you know, the land when it was
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: old before it was old, you know that.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Because that is the one thing that I would love
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: to see if they do KCOA is Apocalypse's backstory, and yes, Arocco,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: like I would. I want to see Genesis. I want
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: to see their ye like batties all around.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Around and it's a Apocalypse like you know, when he's
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: talking to the island and everything. Just who he becomes
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: in that series, just the majestic king, you know, but.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: This is his co Cohen name that he was like,
• 56:13
  Speaker 3: oh my real name isn't fit for you to utter?
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I want to see, So yeah, all right,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: anything else before we get out of here.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of comments.
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody who's been in here on the
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: live Twitch watching us right now. Shout out to Joseph
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: Silent Silent Artist, good food mail. Can you guys just
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: watch the two thousand movie on loot? No need for
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: this ninety seven shit him see his processed slop?
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: Nah?
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Now, I actually have the two thousand movie playing in
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: the background because I was just running X Man in
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: the background and that's but Mike, why can't I have both? Yeah?
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Was processed slopped? This is some of the best animation ever. Said, y'all,
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: y'all gotta stop with these with these little phrase words
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: and code words and ship man. Y'all, y'all just sounds
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: so silly, like this is not Ai slop.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Anyway, yeah, yeah, the artist said, this is wishful thinking.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: But do you think we could get doctor Voodoo in this?
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Who's doctor Voodoo? I know, brother Voodoo? Is that the same?
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: I know, brother Voodoo? Okay, all right, all right, midnight
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: in DC.
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: And then who's that who's that weird ass doctor who
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: they had and Cocoa who had the mushrooms going on
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: his head?
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't remember his name.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I remember his name either, but I don't think it's Voodoo.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: But that's the doctor I think when I think of
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: the h men.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, I was thinking of his his, his, their main
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: medic doctor, doctor Cecilia. Yes, yes, I would like to
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: see her show up. I would actually like to see
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: the rest of the new mutants show up like I
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: know that we saw in the trailer, Like it looks
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: like Colossus finds magic. Hopefully we don't get racist magics,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: overly aggressively racist magic.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Somebody in the writers room was like, what do you
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: know about Russians. I've heard the racist Just the funny
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: thing is, i've heard the Russians can't be wildly racist too.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: But you know, I did not expect that to be
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: for one.
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: Character trait character that finding character defining character trait that
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: I loved. I would love to see it, I mean
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the rest of them. But it does seem like Magic
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: is somebody who called a bad one in Jenosha. So yeah,
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: it does not. I mean, you don't want.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: To see Doug. Yes, Jesus right, what they've done to
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Doug in the comics right now.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: It's just I had to stop because I was like,
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: what is going on?
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: Holy shit, that's some like look, hey, I you know,
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: I'm hey, you know, somebody's great idea.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it alone.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Somebody had that idea and they were, you know, say hey, blessed,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: see you just working out and bring back you know,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: my Doug Ramsey and my Warlock and I'll be happy.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And Warlock has been in this already.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: So Warlot's already because yeah, when I rewatched original, Warlock
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: showed up in it. I don't think Doug ever did.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Warlock did some of the other new units definitely did.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I'd love to see them. I mean, it's just there's
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: so much am.
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: I and Danny are like those are some of my
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: favorite new Mutants and I would just love to see
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: both of them show up. Like Karma's a little queer icon,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: like Danny is just the Danny I love Danny.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny is like you know, like I said, I
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: grew up on strong, tough women, and Danny had another.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: One, Like they got like a cute little demon bear special,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: Like I would love that.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: That's the thing.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: It's just they've opened up the doors and there's so
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: much they can do with this. I'm really mad that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: they're not giving us more, not just more seasons, but
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: more shows.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm like, come on, like where is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the new Mutant show? Where is this show? Where is that?
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: But and the thing is they've showed so many like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: we didn't talk about, but there was like all the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: cameos of like Monett, Quentin, all of them and so
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: and we saw that like Silock was Lokia cameo last
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: season because that's what Morph turned into. So like just
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: because they're a cameo one season doesn't mean they can't
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: be like a main or regular in the next season.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: So it's cool to see that. Like they're expanding some
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: of the people that they showed us glimpses of from
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: the first season.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and they've always done that. Well, that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: was another one real quick. I just love ar Chandral
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: calling them traders. Boy, that man was mad, but he's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: stayed being mad too, because that goes back to the
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: original joint. He was so mad at Apocalypse all through
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: that and that's should be interesting to see, how you know,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: his reaction to Apocalypse coming back.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: In this season.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: We got a lot of drama ahead of us and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I love it. Yes, yes, so I think that's gonna
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: be it for this week. Thank you for joining us
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: at your boy, DJ Ben, I mean along time, my
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: brother Joel.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: We will be back with more X Men's ninety seven's
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: next week.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: More reviews, Episode four, The Rise of Apocalypse Part two
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: and Unfortunate Man.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: There's only ten episodes this season.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Well, there are ten episodes last season, wasn't that.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: I know. It's just not enough, man, It is not enough.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: It's not it's not But you know, if they commit
• 1:02:02
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