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Unraveling Family Trees: Insights for Kids, 'Where Do Grownups Come From?' · Adventures in the Heart of Children's Book Authors Podcast

• 2:06
  My
• 2:06
  name
• 2:06
  is
• 2:07
  Alyssa
• 2:07
  Cornwell,
• 2:08
  and
• 2:08
  my
• 2:08
  book
• 2:08
  is
• 2:09
  Where
• 2:09
  Do
• 2:09
  Grownups
• 2:10
  Come
• 2:10
  From?
• 2:11
  Thanks,
• 2:11
  Alyssa.
• 2:12
  Thank
• 2:13
  you.
• 2:13
  Appearing
• 2:14
  on
• 2:14
  the
• 2:14
  Adventures
• 2:14
  in
• 2:15
  the
• 2:15
  Heart
• 2:15
  of
• 2:15
  Children's
• 2:16
  Book
• 2:16
  Authors.
• 2:17
  Thank
• 2:17
  you
• 2:17
  so
• 2:17
  much
• 2:17
  for
• 2:18
  having
• 2:18
  me.
• 2:18
  Oh,
• 2:18
  my
• 2:19
  pleasure.
• 2:20
  I'm
• 2:20
  so
• 2:20
  happy
• 2:21
  you've
• 2:21
  written
• 2:21
  this
• 2:22
  great
• 2:22
  book.
• 2:23
  Where
• 2:23
  Do
• 2:23
  Grownups
• 2:24
  Come
• 2:24
  From?
• 2:25
  And
• 2:25
  I
• 2:25
  look
• 2:25
  forward
• 2:25
  to
• 2:26
  our
• 2:26
  conversation.
• 2:27
  Your
• 2:27
  book
• 2:28
  is
• 2:28
  a
• 2:28
  subject
• 2:29
  matter
• 2:29
  close
• 2:29
  to
• 2:30
  my
• 2:30
  heart.
• 2:30
  And
• 2:30
  I
• 2:31
  know
• 2:31
  from
• 2:32
  some
• 2:33
  of
• 2:33
  my
• 2:33
  family
• 2:33
  members,
• 2:34
  I
• 2:34
  know
• 2:34
  it's
• 2:35
  close
• 2:35
  to
• 2:35
  their
• 2:35
  heart.
• 2:36
  And
• 2:37
  it's
• 2:37
  interesting.
• 2:39
  When
• 2:39
  my
• 2:39
  mother
• 2:40
  passed
• 2:40
  away,
• 2:41
  my
• 2:41
  dad
• 2:42
  asked
• 2:42
  me
• 2:42
  if
• 2:43
  we
• 2:43
  could
• 2:43
  do
• 2:43
  something
• 2:44
  special,
• 2:44
  and
• 2:45
  that
• 2:45
  ended
• 2:45
  up
• 2:45
  us
• 2:46
  starting
• 2:47
  an
• 2:47
  account
• 2:47
  with
• 2:47
  ancestry.
• 2:49
  Oh,
• 2:49
  great.
• 2:50
  Yeah.
• 2:50
  And
• 2:51
  then
• 2:51
  it
• 2:51
  was
• 2:51
  me
• 2:52
  building
• 2:52
  out
• 2:52
  our
• 2:53
  whole
• 2:53
  family
• 2:53
  tree
• 2:54
  and
• 2:55
  focusing
• 2:55
  on
• 2:55
  my
• 2:56
  mother.
• 2:56
  So
• 2:56
  that
• 2:56
  was
• 2:56
  neat.
• 2:57
  And
• 2:57
  my
• 2:57
  dad
• 2:57
  loved
• 2:58
  it.
• 2:58
  It
• 2:58
  was
• 2:58
  really
• 2:58
  special.
• 2:59
  Once
• 3:00
  you
• 3:00
  build
• 3:00
  out,
• 3:01
  it's
• 3:01
  incredible
• 3:01
  what
• 3:02
  you
• 3:02
  find
• 3:02
  out.
• 3:02
  Yes.
• 3:03
  That
• 3:03
  sounds
• 3:03
  like
• 3:04
  such
• 3:04
  a
• 3:04
  lovely
• 3:04
  gift
• 3:04
  to
• 3:05
  give
• 3:05
  her.
• 3:05
  I'm
• 3:05
  sure
• 3:05
  that
• 3:06
  was
• 3:06
  very
• 3:06
  nice.
• 3:06
  Fun.
• 3:07
  I
• 3:07
  love
• 3:07
  about
• 3:08
  what
• 3:08
  you're
• 3:08
  doing
• 3:09
  is
• 3:10
  you're
• 3:10
  introducing
• 3:11
  the
• 3:11
  subject
• 3:12
  of
• 3:12
  family
• 3:13
  trees
• 3:13
  at
• 3:13
  a
• 3:14
  very
• 3:14
  early
• 3:14
  age,
• 3:14
  and
• 3:15
  I
• 3:15
  just
• 3:15
  think
• 3:15
  that
• 3:16
  is
• 3:16
  incredible.
• 3:17
  I'm
• 3:17
  excited
• 3:18
  about
• 3:18
  talking
• 3:19
  to
• 3:19
  you
• 3:19
  about
• 3:19
  that.
• 3:21
  Before
• 3:21
  we
• 3:21
  get
• 3:21
  into
• 3:22
  the
• 3:22
  details
• 3:22
  of
• 3:22
  your
• 3:23
  book
• 3:23
  and
• 3:24
  your
• 3:24
  children's
• 3:25
  book
• 3:25
  authorship,
• 3:26
  I'd
• 3:27
  like
• 3:27
  to
• 3:27
  know,
• 3:28
  if
• 3:28
  you
• 3:28
  could
• 3:28
  just
• 3:29
  tell
• 3:29
  us,
• 3:29
  what
• 3:29
  does
• 3:30
  it
• 3:30
  mean
• 3:31
  to
• 3:31
  be
• 3:31
  a
• 3:31
  children's
• 3:32
  book
• 3:32
  author?
• 3:32
  What's
• 3:33
  it
• 3:33
  mean
• 3:33
  to
• 3:33
  you?
• 3:35
  Oh,
• 3:35
  man.
• 3:36
  It's
• 3:36
  something
• 3:36
  I
• 3:37
  never
• 3:37
  expected
• 3:37
  to
• 3:38
  happen.
• 3:38
  First
• 3:39
  of
• 3:39
  all,
• 3:39
  I
• 3:40
  had
• 3:40
  put
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  lot
• 3:41
  of
• 3:41
  dreams
• 3:42
  of
• 3:42
  becoming
• 3:43
  anything
• 3:44
  literary
• 3:44
  behind
• 3:45
  me
• 3:45
  a
• 3:45
  long
• 3:45
  time
• 3:45
  ago
• 3:46
  because
• 3:46
  I
• 3:46
  went
• 3:46
  through
• 3:46
  the
• 3:46
  whole
• 3:47
  process
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  getting
• 3:48
  a
• 3:48
  bachelor's
• 3:49
  degree
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  English
• 3:50
  because
• 3:51
  mostly
• 3:51
  that's
• 3:51
  just
• 3:51
  what
• 3:51
  I
• 3:52
  wanted
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  learn.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:53
  wanted
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  learn
• 3:53
  about
• 3:54
  books.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  wanted
• 3:54
  to
• 3:55
  learn
• 3:55
  about
• 3:56
  authors,
• 3:56
  stories,
• 3:57
  and
• 3:57
  stuff
• 3:57
  like
• 3:57
  that.
• 3:58
  But
• 3:58
  I
• 3:58
  didn't
• 3:59
  really
• 3:59
  have
• 3:59
  a
• 3:59
  direct
• 4:00
  idea
• 4:00
  of
• 4:01
  what
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  wanted
• 4:01
  to
• 4:02
  do
• 4:02
  with
• 4:02
  that
• 4:02
  degree.
• 4:03
  Life
• 4:03
  just
• 4:03
  takes
• 4:03
  you
• 4:04
  places.
• 4:04
  And
• 4:04
  I
• 4:04
  ended
• 4:05
  up
• 4:05
  in
• 4:05
  a.
• 4:05
  A
• 4:06
  field
• 4:06
  that
• 4:06
  had
• 4:06
  nothing
• 4:06
  to
• 4:07
  do
• 4:07
  with
• 4:07
  English
• 4:07
  was
• 4:08
  actually
• 4:08
  much
• 4:08
  more
• 4:09
  math
• 4:09
  based,
• 4:09
  which
• 4:10
  was
• 4:10
  a
• 4:10
  shock
• 4:10
  to
• 4:11
  everybody
• 4:11
  that
• 4:11
  knows
• 4:11
  me
• 4:12
  because
• 4:12
  that
• 4:13
  is
• 4:13
  not
• 4:13
  my
• 4:13
  subject.
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  was
• 4:15
  a
• 4:16
  cabinet
• 4:16
  designer
• 4:17
  for
• 4:17
  almost
• 4:17
  a
• 4:18
  decade,
• 4:19
  learned
• 4:19
  through
• 4:20
  a
• 4:20
  big
• 4:20
  box
• 4:20
  company
• 4:21
  that
• 4:21
  I
• 4:21
  worked
• 4:21
  for
• 4:22
  through
• 4:22
  them,
• 4:22
  and
• 4:23
  then
• 4:23
  was
• 4:23
  able
• 4:23
  to
• 4:23
  transition
• 4:24
  to
• 4:24
  that.
• 4:24
  Sounds
• 4:25
  like
• 4:25
  creative
• 4:26
  in
• 4:26
  its
• 4:26
  own
• 4:26
  right.
• 4:27
  It
• 4:27
  is
• 4:28
  creative,
• 4:28
  but
• 4:28
  it
• 4:29
  is
• 4:29
  much
• 4:29
  more
• 4:31
  limited.
• 4:31
  Right.
• 4:32
  So
• 4:32
  you're
• 4:32
  creative
• 4:33
  within
• 4:33
  the
• 4:33
  boxes
• 4:34
  that
• 4:34
  they
• 4:34
  give
• 4:34
  you,
• 4:35
  which
• 4:35
  has
• 4:35
  its
• 4:36
  own
• 4:36
  way
• 4:36
  of
• 4:36
  being
• 4:37
  creative
• 4:37
  because
• 4:37
  you
• 4:37
  have
• 4:38
  to
• 4:38
  work
• 4:38
  within
• 4:38
  certain
• 4:39
  rules,
• 4:39
  which
• 4:39
  a
• 4:39
  lot
• 4:40
  of
• 4:40
  authors
• 4:40
  do
• 4:40
  as
• 4:41
  well.
• 4:41
  But
• 4:42
  it
• 4:42
  was
• 4:42
  just
• 4:42
  a
• 4:42
  very
• 4:42
  different
• 4:43
  kind
• 4:43
  of
• 4:44
  creativity.
• 4:45
  But
• 4:45
  I
• 4:45
  was
• 4:45
  glad
• 4:45
  that
• 4:45
  I
• 4:46
  Still
• 4:46
  got
• 4:46
  to
• 4:46
  use
• 4:47
  those
• 4:47
  juices
• 4:48
  a
• 4:48
  little
• 4:48
  bit.
• 4:48
  But
• 4:49
  then
• 4:49
  when
• 4:50
  the
• 4:51
  story
• 4:51
  presented
• 4:52
  itself,
• 4:53
  it
• 4:54
  was
• 4:54
  just
• 4:54
  something
• 4:55
  that
• 4:55
  I
• 4:56
  knew
• 4:57
  I
• 4:57
  wanted
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  keep
• 4:58
  going
• 4:58
  with,
• 4:58
  which
• 4:59
  was
• 4:59
  cool.
• 4:59
  Did
• 5:00
  you
• 5:00
  think,
• 5:01
  I
• 5:01
  want
• 5:01
  to
• 5:01
  be
• 5:02
  a
• 5:02
  children's
• 5:02
  book
• 5:03
  author?
• 5:03
  Like,
• 5:03
  it's
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  old
• 5:04
  the
• 5:05
  chicken
• 5:05
  before
• 5:05
  the
• 5:06
  egg
• 5:06
  or
• 5:06
  the
• 5:07
  horse
• 5:07
  before
• 5:08
  the
• 5:08
  cart.
• 5:09
  So
• 5:09
  was
• 5:10
  this
• 5:10
  inspiration
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  be
• 5:11
  a
• 5:11
  children's
• 5:12
  book
• 5:12
  author,
• 5:12
  or
• 5:12
  did
• 5:13
  you
• 5:13
  have
• 5:13
  this
• 5:13
  idea
• 5:14
  for
• 5:14
  a
• 5:14
  children's
• 5:14
  book
• 5:15
  and
• 5:15
  then
• 5:17
  being
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  children's
• 5:17
  book
• 5:18
  author
• 5:18
  became
• 5:18
  second?
• 5:20
  Yeah,
• 5:20
  the
• 5:20
  story
• 5:21
  came
• 5:21
  first.
• 5:22
  The
• 5:22
  idea
• 5:23
  of
• 5:23
  being
• 5:23
  an
• 5:23
  author
• 5:24
  was
• 5:24
  actually
• 5:24
  something
• 5:24
  I
• 5:25
  had
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  come
• 5:25
  to
• 5:26
  terms
• 5:26
  with
• 5:26
  because
• 5:27
  it's
• 5:27
  the
• 5:27
  same
• 5:28
  thing
• 5:28
  of
• 5:28
  being
• 5:28
  an
• 5:28
  artist.
• 5:29
  I
• 5:29
  love
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  paint,
• 5:30
  but
• 5:30
  I
• 5:30
  had
• 5:30
  trouble
• 5:31
  calling
• 5:31
  myself
• 5:32
  an
• 5:32
  artist
• 5:33
  because
• 5:34
  that's
• 5:34
  something
• 5:35
  other
• 5:35
  people
• 5:36
  do.
• 5:36
  Right.
• 5:36
  That's
• 5:37
  something
• 5:37
  that
• 5:38
  someone
• 5:38
  else
• 5:38
  has
• 5:38
  achieved.
• 5:39
  I
• 5:39
  don't
• 5:39
  know
• 5:39
  how
• 5:39
  to
• 5:40
  achieve
• 5:40
  that.
• 5:41
  So
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  actually
• 5:42
  come
• 5:43
  out
• 5:43
  to
• 5:43
  people
• 5:43
  and
• 5:43
  say,
• 5:44
  oh,
• 5:44
  I
• 5:45
  am
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  children's
• 5:45
  book
• 5:46
  author
• 5:46
  sounds.
• 5:47
  I
• 5:48
  don't
• 5:48
  know.
• 5:48
  It
• 5:48
  feels
• 5:48
  like
• 5:48
  I'm
• 5:49
  bragging
• 5:49
  when
• 5:50
  I'm
• 5:50
  not.
• 5:50
  That's
• 5:51
  just
• 5:51
  what
• 5:51
  it
• 5:51
  is.
• 5:52
  But
• 5:52
  that's
• 5:52
  something
• 5:53
  I
• 5:53
  had
• 5:53
  to
• 5:54
  reassociate
• 5:55
  with
• 5:55
  myself.
• 5:55
  It's
• 5:56
  interesting
• 5:56
  that
• 5:56
  you
• 5:57
  say
• 5:57
  that,
• 5:57
  because
• 5:58
  I
• 5:58
  had
• 5:58
  one
• 5:59
  of
• 5:59
  my
• 5:59
  first
• 5:59
  guests
• 6:00
  on
• 6:00
  my
• 6:00
  show.
• 6:01
  She
• 6:02
  wrote
• 6:03
  just
• 6:03
  an
• 6:03
  incredible
• 6:04
  book
• 6:04
  like
• 6:04
  yourself,
• 6:05
  and
• 6:05
  hers
• 6:05
  was
• 6:05
  on
• 6:06
  time
• 6:07
  management,
• 6:07
  but
• 6:08
  directed
• 6:08
  at
• 6:08
  children.
• 6:10
  And
• 6:10
  so
• 6:10
  a
• 6:11
  very
• 6:11
  cute
• 6:11
  book
• 6:11
  called
• 6:12
  Money
• 6:12
  Time.
• 6:13
  Anyways,
• 6:14
  when
• 6:15
  I
• 6:15
  went
• 6:16
  to
• 6:16
  her
• 6:16
  Instagram
• 6:17
  and
• 6:17
  she
• 6:17
  had
• 6:17
  a
• 6:18
  good
• 6:18
  following
• 6:18
  on
• 6:18
  her
• 6:19
  Instagram,
• 6:19
  it
• 6:20
  didn't
• 6:20
  have
• 6:20
  children's
• 6:21
  book
• 6:21
  author
• 6:21
  in
• 6:22
  her
• 6:22
  title.
• 6:24
  And
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  said,
• 6:24
  oh,
• 6:25
  why
• 6:25
  is
• 6:26
  that?
• 6:26
  And
• 6:27
  at
• 6:27
  first,
• 6:28
  she
• 6:28
  didn't
• 6:28
  really
• 6:29
  think
• 6:29
  of
• 6:29
  herself
• 6:29
  as
• 6:30
  a
• 6:30
  children's
• 6:30
  book
• 6:31
  author,
• 6:31
  even
• 6:32
  though
• 6:32
  she
• 6:32
  had
• 6:32
  a
• 6:33
  published
• 6:33
  children's
• 6:34
  book.
• 6:35
  It
• 6:35
  takes
• 6:36
  time
• 6:36
  to
• 6:37
  absorb
• 6:37
  that
• 6:38
  title
• 6:38
  and
• 6:38
  accept
• 6:39
  it.
• 6:40
  I
• 6:40
  did
• 6:40
  influence
• 6:41
  her
• 6:41
  in
• 6:41
  a
• 6:41
  positive
• 6:42
  way
• 6:42
  because
• 6:42
  within
• 6:42
  five
• 6:43
  minutes
• 6:43
  after
• 6:43
  we
• 6:44
  hung
• 6:44
  up,
• 6:44
  I
• 6:44
  noticed
• 6:45
  her
• 6:45
  Instagram
• 6:46
  changed
• 6:46
  and
• 6:46
  she
• 6:47
  did
• 6:47
  add
• 6:47
  children's
• 6:48
  book
• 6:48
  authors.
• 6:50
  Absolutely.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:51
  had
• 6:51
  to
• 6:51
  have
• 6:51
  somebody
• 6:52
  tell
• 6:52
  me
• 6:52
  to
• 6:52
  start
• 6:53
  putting,
• 6:53
  like,
• 6:53
  author
• 6:54
  and
• 6:54
  writer
• 6:54
  as,
• 6:55
  like,
• 6:55
  hashtags
• 6:55
  at
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  end
• 6:56
  of
• 6:56
  my
• 6:56
  posts,
• 6:57
  because
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  wasn't
• 6:58
  putting.
• 6:58
  I
• 6:59
  was
• 6:59
  like,
• 6:59
  aspiring
• 7:00
  author
• 7:00
  aspiring.
• 7:01
  They're
• 7:01
  like,
• 7:01
  no,
• 7:02
  you
• 7:02
  are,
• 7:02
  in
• 7:02
  fact,
• 7:03
  one
• 7:03
  already.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:04
  I
• 7:04
  was
• 7:04
  like,
• 7:04
  okay,
• 7:04
  okay,
• 7:05
  okay.
• 7:05
  So
• 7:06
  it
• 7:06
  all
• 7:06
  takes
• 7:07
  a
• 7:07
  little
• 7:07
  punch
• 7:08
  and
• 7:08
  a
• 7:08
  little
• 7:09
  acceptance.
• 7:09
  And
• 7:10
  I
• 7:10
  got
• 7:11
  there
• 7:11
  eventually.
• 7:12
  Fantastic.
• 7:13
  So
• 7:13
  I'm
• 7:13
  interested
• 7:14
  now
• 7:14
  that
• 7:14
  we
• 7:15
  know
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  you
• 7:16
  put
• 7:16
  the
• 7:16
  cart
• 7:17
  before
• 7:17
  the
• 7:17
  horse.
• 7:18
  Okay,
• 7:19
  maybe.
• 7:20
  Anyways,
• 7:21
  tell
• 7:21
  us
• 7:21
  what
• 7:22
  was
• 7:22
  the
• 7:22
  inspiration
• 7:23
  behind
• 7:23
  your
• 7:24
  book?
• 7:25
  Family
• 7:26
  is
• 7:26
  such
• 7:26
  an
• 7:26
  important
• 7:27
  subject
• 7:28
  for
• 7:28
  so
• 7:28
  many
• 7:28
  people,
• 7:29
  as
• 7:29
  it
• 7:30
  should
• 7:30
  be.
• 7:30
  But
• 7:31
  family
• 7:31
  always
• 7:31
  means
• 7:32
  different
• 7:32
  things
• 7:33
  for
• 7:33
  different
• 7:33
  people.
• 7:34
  And
• 7:35
  for
• 7:35
  me,
• 7:36
  I
• 7:36
  was
• 7:37
  a
• 7:37
  new
• 7:37
  mother.
• 7:38
  I
• 7:38
  had
• 7:38
  my
• 7:38
  first
• 7:39
  son,
• 7:40
  and
• 7:40
  he
• 7:40
  was
• 7:41
  about
• 7:41
  2
• 7:41
  at
• 7:41
  the
• 7:42
  time.
• 7:42
  And
• 7:42
  we
• 7:42
  had
• 7:42
  started
• 7:43
  reading
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  lot
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  these
• 7:44
  lovely
• 7:44
  children's
• 7:45
  books
• 7:45
  together.
• 7:46
  And
• 7:46
  as
• 7:46
  a
• 7:46
  creative
• 7:47
  person,
• 7:47
  I
• 7:48
  started
• 7:48
  thinking
• 7:48
  about
• 7:49
  what
• 7:50
  story
• 7:50
  could
• 7:51
  I
• 7:51
  potentially
• 7:52
  bring
• 7:52
  to
• 7:52
  the
• 7:52
  world.
• 7:53
  And
• 7:54
  it
• 7:54
  wasn't
• 7:54
  until
• 7:54
  I
• 7:55
  was
• 7:55
  on
• 7:55
  my
• 7:55
  parents
• 7:56
  back
• 7:56
  deck
• 7:57
  surrounded
• 7:57
  by
• 7:57
  all
• 7:57
  my
• 7:58
  siblings
• 7:58
  and
• 7:58
  their
• 7:58
  families
• 7:59
  and
• 7:59
  stuff
• 7:59
  like
• 8:00
  that,
• 8:00
  that
• 8:01
  I
• 8:01
  started
• 8:01
  to
• 8:01
  think
• 8:02
  about
• 8:04
  what
• 8:05
  those
• 8:05
  big
• 8:05
  questions
• 8:06
  were
• 8:06
  going
• 8:06
  to
• 8:06
  be
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  were
• 8:07
  brought
• 8:07
  to
• 8:07
  me
• 8:07
  by
• 8:08
  my
• 8:08
  children.
• 8:09
  So
• 8:09
  my
• 8:09
  son,
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  just
• 8:11
  had
• 8:11
  this
• 8:11
  image
• 8:11
  of
• 8:11
  him
• 8:12
  coming
• 8:12
  up
• 8:12
  to
• 8:12
  me
• 8:13
  at
• 8:13
  some
• 8:13
  point
• 8:13
  in
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  future
• 8:14
  and
• 8:15
  asking
• 8:15
  those
• 8:15
  questions.
• 8:16
  Does
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  chicken
• 8:17
  come
• 8:17
  before
• 8:18
  the
• 8:18
  egg?
• 8:18
  Kind
• 8:19
  of
• 8:19
  stuff
• 8:20
  or
• 8:21
  where
• 8:21
  do
• 8:21
  babies
• 8:22
  come
• 8:22
  from?
• 8:22
  Is
• 8:22
  the
• 8:23
  big
• 8:23
  one?
• 8:23
  Big
• 8:23
  one.
• 8:24
  Was
• 8:24
  that
• 8:24
  part
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  the
• 8:25
  conversation
• 8:25
  when
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  said
• 8:26
  you
• 8:26
  were
• 8:26
  out
• 8:26
  on
• 8:27
  the
• 8:27
  family
• 8:28
  on
• 8:28
  deck
• 8:29
  at
• 8:29
  your
• 8:29
  mom
• 8:29
  and
• 8:30
  dad's
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  you
• 8:30
  were
• 8:30
  sitting
• 8:31
  around,
• 8:31
  Was
• 8:31
  there
• 8:31
  any
• 8:32
  conversation
• 8:32
  around
• 8:34
  the
• 8:34
  whole
• 8:34
  ancestry
• 8:35
  thing?
• 8:36
  Or
• 8:36
  you
• 8:36
  just
• 8:37
  listened
• 8:37
  to
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  conversation.
• 8:38
  And
• 8:38
  thought,
• 8:39
  oh,
• 8:40
  I
• 8:40
  was
• 8:41
  listening
• 8:41
  to
• 8:41
  the
• 8:41
  conversation.
• 8:42
  And
• 8:43
  it
• 8:43
  was
• 8:44
  a
• 8:44
  little
• 8:44
  bit.
• 8:45
  It
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  just.
• 8:45
  I
• 8:45
  was
• 8:45
  surrounded
• 8:46
  by
• 8:46
  my
• 8:47
  family,
• 8:47
  right.
• 8:47
  So
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  have
• 8:48
  a
• 8:49
  brother
• 8:49
  and
• 8:49
  two
• 8:50
  sisters
• 8:50
  that
• 8:50
  were
• 8:51
  all
• 8:51
  there
• 8:51
  and
• 8:52
  my
• 8:52
  parents
• 8:52
  and
• 8:53
  my
• 8:53
  brother
• 8:54
  has
• 8:54
  children
• 8:54
  and
• 8:54
  my
• 8:55
  sister
• 8:55
  has
• 8:55
  children.
• 8:56
  At
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  time,
• 8:56
  my
• 8:57
  younger
• 8:57
  sister
• 8:57
  didn't
• 8:58
  have
• 8:58
  any
• 8:58
  kids
• 8:58
  yet.
• 8:59
  And
• 8:59
  we
• 8:59
  were
• 8:59
  all
• 8:59
  just
• 9:00
  telling
• 9:00
  stories
• 9:01
  about
• 9:01
  our
• 9:01
  kids.
• 9:02
  Right?
• 9:02
  That's
• 9:02
  the
• 9:03
  stories
• 9:03
  that
• 9:03
  everybody
• 9:03
  has
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  tell
• 9:04
  is,
• 9:04
  oh,
• 9:04
  my
• 9:05
  son
• 9:05
  did
• 9:05
  this,
• 9:05
  oh,
• 9:05
  my
• 9:05
  daughter
• 9:06
  did
• 9:06
  that
• 9:06
  kind
• 9:06
  of
• 9:06
  stuff.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:08
  it
• 9:08
  just
• 9:08
  brought
• 9:09
  on
• 9:09
  this
• 9:09
  question
• 9:10
  in
• 9:10
  my
• 9:10
  head
• 9:11
  of,
• 9:11
  oh,
• 9:11
  wouldn't
• 9:11
  it
• 9:11
  be
• 9:12
  silly
• 9:12
  if
• 9:13
  instead
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  the
• 9:14
  ones
• 9:14
  you
• 9:14
  expect,
• 9:15
  which
• 9:15
  are,
• 9:16
  does
• 9:16
  the
• 9:17
  chicken
• 9:17
  come
• 9:17
  before
• 9:17
  the
• 9:17
  egg
• 9:18
  does?
• 9:18
  Is
• 9:18
  why
• 9:19
  is
• 9:19
  the
• 9:19
  sky
• 9:19
  blue?
• 9:20
  Or
• 9:20
  where
• 9:20
  do
• 9:20
  babies
• 9:21
  come
• 9:21
  from?
• 9:21
  What
• 9:21
  if
• 9:21
  they
• 9:21
  asked
• 9:22
  you
• 9:22
  in
• 9:22
  a
• 9:22
  way
• 9:22
  you
• 9:23
  weren't
• 9:23
  expecting,
• 9:24
  how
• 9:24
  do
• 9:24
  you
• 9:24
  answer
• 9:24
  that?
• 9:25
  And
• 9:25
  it
• 9:25
  made
• 9:25
  giggle
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  where
• 9:27
  do
• 9:27
  grownups
• 9:28
  come
• 9:28
  from
• 9:28
  instead?
• 9:29
  So
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  title
• 9:30
  was
• 9:30
  genuinely
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  first
• 9:31
  thing
• 9:32
  that
• 9:32
  I
• 9:32
  thought
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  for
• 9:33
  this.
• 9:33
  Really
• 9:34
  not
• 9:34
  how
• 9:34
  it's
• 9:34
  supposed
• 9:35
  to
• 9:35
  work,
• 9:35
  but
• 9:36
  that's
• 9:36
  just
• 9:36
  one
• 9:37
  of
• 9:37
  those.
• 9:37
  Actually.
• 9:38
  I
• 9:38
  actually
• 9:39
  talked
• 9:39
  to
• 9:40
  a
• 9:40
  guest
• 9:41
  a
• 9:41
  couple
• 9:41
  of
• 9:41
  weeks
• 9:42
  ago
• 9:43
  and
• 9:44
  it
• 9:44
  was
• 9:44
  a
• 9:45
  little
• 9:45
  bit
• 9:45
  of
• 9:45
  a
• 9:45
  sad
• 9:45
  story
• 9:46
  that
• 9:46
  the
• 9:47
  parents
• 9:47
  of
• 9:48
  someone
• 9:48
  who
• 9:49
  had
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  chronic
• 9:49
  disease,
• 9:50
  she
• 9:50
  passed
• 9:50
  away
• 9:51
  at
• 9:52
  an
• 9:52
  early
• 9:52
  age
• 9:52
  around
• 9:53
  21,
• 9:54
  and
• 9:55
  she
• 9:55
  was
• 9:55
  a
• 9:55
  very
• 9:55
  positive
• 9:56
  person
• 9:56
  and
• 9:57
  they
• 9:57
  had
• 9:57
  talked
• 9:57
  to
• 9:57
  her
• 9:58
  about
• 9:59
  what
• 9:59
  would
• 9:59
  your
• 9:59
  legacy
• 10:00
  like
• 10:01
  to
• 10:01
  be?
• 10:01
  And
• 10:01
  part
• 10:01
  of
• 10:01
  it
• 10:01
  was
• 10:02
  being
• 10:02
  a
• 10:02
  children's
• 10:02
  book.
• 10:03
  So
• 10:03
  they
• 10:03
  had
• 10:03
  come
• 10:04
  up
• 10:04
  with
• 10:05
  a
• 10:05
  children's
• 10:06
  book
• 10:06
  title
• 10:07
  and
• 10:07
  the
• 10:08
  characters
• 10:09
  in
• 10:09
  advance,
• 10:10
  and
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  took
• 10:11
  them
• 10:11
  12
• 10:11
  years
• 10:11
  to
• 10:12
  find
• 10:13
  someone
• 10:13
  who
• 10:13
  had
• 10:13
  pen
• 10:14
  the
• 10:14
  story.
• 10:15
  Oh,
• 10:16
  wow.
• 10:16
  Yeah.
• 10:17
  So
• 10:17
  you
• 10:17
  never
• 10:17
  know
• 10:17
  where
• 10:18
  your
• 10:18
  title
• 10:19
  and
• 10:19
  that
• 10:20
  whole
• 10:20
  thing
• 10:20
  takes
• 10:21
  you.
• 10:21
  So
• 10:21
  thank
• 10:21
  you
• 10:21
  for
• 10:22
  sharing
• 10:22
  that,
• 10:22
  because
• 10:22
  I'm
• 10:23
  always
• 10:23
  curious.
• 10:24
  And
• 10:24
  part
• 10:24
  of
• 10:25
  this
• 10:25
  show
• 10:25
  is
• 10:25
  to
• 10:25
  help
• 10:26
  aspiring
• 10:27
  children's
• 10:27
  book
• 10:28
  authors.
• 10:28
  So
• 10:29
  it's
• 10:29
  not
• 10:29
  like
• 10:29
  you.
• 10:30
  If
• 10:30
  you
• 10:30
  come
• 10:30
  up
• 10:30
  with
• 10:31
  the
• 10:31
  title,
• 10:32
  this
• 10:32
  is
• 10:32
  a
• 10:32
  brilliant
• 10:33
  title.
• 10:33
  So.
• 10:34
  Oh,
• 10:34
  thank
• 10:34
  you.
• 10:35
  You're
• 10:35
  welcome.
• 10:35
  So
• 10:36
  to
• 10:36
  come
• 10:36
  up
• 10:36
  with
• 10:36
  the
• 10:37
  title
• 10:37
  and
• 10:38
  then
• 10:38
  let
• 10:38
  it
• 10:39
  stir
• 10:39
  in
• 10:40
  the
• 10:40
  pot,
• 10:40
  or
• 10:40
  however
• 10:41
  you
• 10:41
  want
• 10:41
  to
• 10:41
  phrase
• 10:42
  it.
• 10:42
  That's
• 10:43
  fantastic.
• 10:45
  Yeah.
• 10:45
  It
• 10:45
  was
• 10:45
  the
• 10:45
  title
• 10:46
  first,
• 10:46
  and
• 10:47
  I
• 10:47
  had
• 10:47
  to
• 10:47
  figure
• 10:48
  out
• 10:48
  if
• 10:48
  anybody
• 10:48
  else
• 10:48
  had
• 10:49
  come
• 10:49
  up
• 10:49
  with
• 10:49
  that
• 10:49
  title.
• 10:50
  So
• 10:50
  I
• 10:50
  started
• 10:50
  Googling.
• 10:51
  Somehow
• 10:52
  found
• 10:52
  out
• 10:52
  that
• 10:52
  nobody
• 10:53
  had
• 10:53
  done
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  yet.
• 10:54
  And
• 10:55
  so
• 10:55
  literally,
• 10:55
  just
• 10:56
  in
• 10:56
  my
• 10:56
  phone,
• 10:56
  I
• 10:57
  started,
• 10:57
  like,
• 10:57
  writing
• 10:58
  down
• 10:58
  notes
• 10:58
  of
• 10:59
  what
• 10:59
  that
• 10:59
  story
• 11:00
  could
• 11:00
  be.
• 11:00
  But
• 11:01
  it
• 11:01
  wasn't
• 11:01
  until
• 11:01
  I
• 11:02
  had
• 11:02
  a
• 11:02
  conversation
• 11:03
  with
• 11:03
  my
• 11:04
  husband's
• 11:04
  sister
• 11:05
  where
• 11:06
  she
• 11:06
  was
• 11:06
  talking
• 11:06
  about
• 11:06
  the
• 11:07
  research
• 11:07
  she
• 11:07
  was
• 11:08
  doing
• 11:08
  into
• 11:08
  their
• 11:09
  family
• 11:09
  history.
• 11:10
  So
• 11:10
  she's
• 11:10
  gone
• 11:11
  back
• 11:11
  in
• 11:11
  their
• 11:12
  family
• 11:12
  tree
• 11:13
  all
• 11:13
  the
• 11:13
  way
• 11:13
  back
• 11:13
  to
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  1600s.
• 11:16
  The
• 11:16
  Cornwells
• 11:17
  go
• 11:17
  way
• 11:17
  back,
• 11:17
  apparently.
• 11:19
  And
• 11:20
  it
• 11:20
  was
• 11:20
  that
• 11:21
  conversation
• 11:22
  that
• 11:22
  inspired
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  connection
• 11:24
  of
• 11:24
  where
• 11:24
  do
• 11:25
  grownups
• 11:25
  come
• 11:25
  from?
• 11:26
  To
• 11:26
  leading
• 11:27
  to
• 11:27
  an
• 11:27
  answer
• 11:28
  of
• 11:28
  family
• 11:29
  trees.
• 11:30
  And
• 11:30
  that's
• 11:30
  where
• 11:30
  the
• 11:31
  story
• 11:31
  really
• 11:31
  started
• 11:31
  to
• 11:32
  take
• 11:32
  shape
• 11:32
  and
• 11:32
  become
• 11:33
  something
• 11:34
  with
• 11:34
  a
• 11:34
  little
• 11:34
  more
• 11:34
  depth
• 11:35
  and
• 11:35
  something
• 11:35
  that
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  could
• 11:36
  be
• 11:36
  more
• 11:37
  passionate
• 11:37
  about
• 11:37
  and
• 11:38
  want
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  actually
• 11:39
  pursue.
• 11:39
  So
• 11:39
  that's
• 11:40
  how
• 11:40
  the
• 11:40
  story
• 11:40
  really
• 11:41
  turned
• 11:42
  into
• 11:42
  what
• 11:42
  it
• 11:42
  is
• 11:42
  now.
• 11:43
  And
• 11:43
  I
• 11:44
  love
• 11:44
  your
• 11:44
  spin
• 11:45
  at
• 11:45
  taking
• 11:45
  it
• 11:45
  back
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  the
• 11:47
  start
• 11:47
  of
• 11:47
  a
• 11:47
  child.
• 11:48
  And
• 11:49
  I'm
• 11:49
  interested
• 11:49
  in
• 11:50
  it
• 11:50
  a
• 11:50
  little
• 11:50
  bit
• 11:50
  in.
• 11:52
  Have
• 11:52
  you.
• 11:54
  Has
• 11:54
  it
• 11:54
  driven
• 11:55
  your
• 11:55
  interest
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  your
• 11:57
  adult
• 11:58
  ancestry
• 11:59
  from
• 12:00
  your
• 12:00
  own
• 12:00
  work?
• 12:01
  Yeah.
• 12:01
  So
• 12:02
  one
• 12:02
  of
• 12:02
  the
• 12:02
  big
• 12:03
  goals
• 12:03
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  book
• 12:04
  is
• 12:04
  to
• 12:05
  create
• 12:05
  conversations
• 12:06
  between
• 12:06
  families.
• 12:07
  It
• 12:07
  ends.
• 12:08
  I
• 12:08
  don't
• 12:08
  know
• 12:08
  if
• 12:09
  you
• 12:09
  seen
• 12:09
  a
• 12:09
  full
• 12:09
  copy,
• 12:10
  but
• 12:10
  it
• 12:10
  ends
• 12:11
  with
• 12:11
  a
• 12:11
  blank
• 12:12
  family
• 12:12
  tree
• 12:13
  that
• 12:13
  you
• 12:14
  can
• 12:14
  then
• 12:14
  fill
• 12:15
  in
• 12:15
  yourself.
• 12:16
  So.
• 12:16
  Which
• 12:16
  I
• 12:16
  love.
• 12:17
  Thank
• 12:18
  you.
• 12:18
  You
• 12:18
  can
• 12:18
  talk
• 12:18
  about
• 12:19
  the
• 12:20
  members
• 12:20
  of
• 12:20
  your
• 12:20
  family
• 12:21
  with
• 12:21
  the
• 12:22
  little
• 12:22
  reader
• 12:23
  or.
• 12:23
  I
• 12:23
  always
• 12:24
  felt
• 12:24
  it
• 12:24
  could
• 12:24
  be
• 12:24
  a
• 12:24
  really
• 12:25
  great
• 12:25
  gift
• 12:25
  from,
• 12:26
  like,
• 12:26
  a
• 12:26
  grandparent
• 12:27
  or
• 12:27
  something
• 12:27
  like
• 12:27
  that,
• 12:28
  where
• 12:28
  they
• 12:28
  pre.
• 12:28
  Fill
• 12:29
  it
• 12:29
  out
• 12:29
  and
• 12:29
  then
• 12:29
  could
• 12:29
  talk
• 12:30
  about
• 12:30
  those
• 12:30
  people
• 12:31
  to
• 12:31
  your
• 12:31
  little
• 12:32
  readers.
• 12:32
  That's
• 12:33
  a
• 12:33
  terrific
• 12:33
  idea.
• 12:34
  Thank.
• 12:34
  It's
• 12:35
  worked
• 12:35
  for
• 12:35
  me,
• 12:35
  too.
• 12:36
  So
• 12:36
  in
• 12:37
  creating
• 12:37
  my
• 12:38
  little
• 12:38
  family
• 12:38
  tree
• 12:39
  that
• 12:39
  I've
• 12:39
  written
• 12:39
  in
• 12:39
  myself,
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  realized
• 12:41
  I
• 12:41
  didn't
• 12:42
  know
• 12:42
  my
• 12:42
  great
• 12:43
  grandparents.
• 12:45
  So
• 12:45
  I
• 12:46
  went
• 12:46
  to
• 12:46
  my
• 12:47
  parents.
• 12:47
  We
• 12:47
  called
• 12:47
  on
• 12:48
  FaceTime,
• 12:48
  and
• 12:49
  I
• 12:49
  was
• 12:49
  like,
• 12:49
  guys,
• 12:49
  I've
• 12:50
  written
• 12:50
  this
• 12:50
  book,
• 12:51
  and
• 12:51
  I
• 12:51
  don't
• 12:51
  know
• 12:52
  so
• 12:52
  much
• 12:53
  about
• 12:53
  my
• 12:53
  family.
• 12:54
  And
• 12:55
  my
• 12:55
  dad
• 12:55
  just
• 12:56
  started
• 12:56
  listing
• 12:56
  off
• 12:57
  names,
• 12:57
  and
• 12:57
  he
• 12:58
  just
• 12:58
  became
• 12:59
  so
• 12:59
  excited
• 13:00
  to
• 13:00
  start
• 13:00
  telling
• 13:01
  me
• 13:01
  these
• 13:01
  stories
• 13:01
  that
• 13:02
  he
• 13:02
  hadn't
• 13:02
  even
• 13:02
  thought
• 13:03
  about
• 13:03
  in
• 13:03
  a
• 13:03
  long
• 13:04
  Time
• 13:04
  I
• 13:04
  learned
• 13:05
  all
• 13:05
  about
• 13:05
  my
• 13:05
  great
• 13:05
  grandpa
• 13:06
  Lou
• 13:07
  and
• 13:07
  my
• 13:07
  great
• 13:08
  grandma
• 13:09
  Gladys
• 13:11
  and
• 13:11
  the
• 13:11
  Now
• 13:12
  Lipinskis
• 13:13
  that
• 13:13
  I
• 13:13
  had
• 13:13
  never
• 13:13
  heard
• 13:14
  of
• 13:14
  that
• 13:14
  surname
• 13:15
  before.
• 13:16
  And
• 13:16
  it
• 13:17
  just
• 13:17
  became
• 13:18
  something
• 13:18
  that
• 13:18
  brought
• 13:19
  more
• 13:19
  connection
• 13:20
  between
• 13:20
  me
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  my
• 13:21
  family.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:23
  that's
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  goal.
• 13:23
  Right.
• 13:24
  The
• 13:24
  goal
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  to
• 13:25
  create
• 13:25
  those
• 13:25
  conversations
• 13:26
  and
• 13:26
  those
• 13:26
  bonds
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  to
• 13:28
  tell
• 13:29
  some
• 13:29
  stories
• 13:29
  that
• 13:29
  might
• 13:30
  not
• 13:30
  come
• 13:30
  up
• 13:30
  organically.
• 13:32
  Now
• 13:32
  that
• 13:32
  you've
• 13:32
  got
• 13:33
  this,
• 13:33
  it's
• 13:34
  alive,
• 13:35
  it's
• 13:36
  growing.
• 13:36
  The
• 13:37
  leaves
• 13:37
  are
• 13:37
  sprouting
• 13:38
  out
• 13:38
  of
• 13:38
  the.
• 13:39
  Yes.
• 13:39
  Of
• 13:39
  the
• 13:40
  branches
• 13:41
  I'm
• 13:41
  interested
• 13:42
  in.
• 13:43
  Have
• 13:43
  you
• 13:44
  developed
• 13:44
  a
• 13:45
  children's
• 13:45
  business
• 13:46
  book
• 13:46
  plan?
• 13:47
  What
• 13:47
  if
• 13:47
  you
• 13:48
  have?
• 13:48
  What
• 13:48
  does
• 13:48
  it
• 13:48
  look
• 13:49
  like?
• 13:49
  Or
• 13:49
  do
• 13:50
  you
• 13:50
  have
• 13:50
  visualize
• 13:51
  building
• 13:52
  out
• 13:52
  a
• 13:52
  business
• 13:52
  book
• 13:53
  plan?
• 13:55
  I
• 13:55
  probably
• 13:56
  at
• 13:56
  the
• 13:56
  very
• 13:56
  early
• 13:57
  stages
• 13:57
  of
• 13:57
  the
• 13:58
  full
• 13:58
  process.
• 13:59
  So
• 14:00
  I
• 14:00
  am
• 14:01
  very
• 14:01
  focused
• 14:02
  on
• 14:03
  goals
• 14:03
  that
• 14:04
  are
• 14:05
  achievable
• 14:05
  in
• 14:06
  the
• 14:06
  right
• 14:06
  amount
• 14:06
  of
• 14:07
  time.
• 14:07
  So
• 14:08
  I
• 14:08
  am
• 14:08
  the
• 14:09
  mother
• 14:09
  of
• 14:09
  two.
• 14:10
  That
• 14:10
  is
• 14:10
  my
• 14:10
  main
• 14:11
  focus
• 14:11
  in
• 14:11
  life.
• 14:12
  And
• 14:13
  I
• 14:14
  don't
• 14:14
  want
• 14:14
  to
• 14:14
  do
• 14:15
  anything
• 14:15
  that
• 14:16
  completely
• 14:16
  disrupts
• 14:18
  the
• 14:18
  main
• 14:18
  priority
• 14:19
  of
• 14:20
  my
• 14:20
  time.
• 14:21
  You
• 14:21
  don't
• 14:21
  ask
• 14:22
  me
• 14:22
  asking,
• 14:22
  how
• 14:22
  old
• 14:23
  are
• 14:23
  your
• 14:23
  children?
• 14:25
  My
• 14:25
  son
• 14:25
  is
• 14:25
  7
• 14:26
  and
• 14:26
  my
• 14:26
  daughter
• 14:27
  is
• 14:27
  2.
• 14:28
  She
• 14:28
  just
• 14:28
  turned
• 14:28
  2
• 14:28
  a
• 14:29
  couple
• 14:29
  weeks
• 14:29
  ago.
• 14:30
  We
• 14:30
  had
• 14:31
  a
• 14:31
  little
• 14:31
  trouble
• 14:32
  having
• 14:33
  number
• 14:33
  two
• 14:33
  for
• 14:34
  a
• 14:34
  while.
• 14:35
  Me
• 14:35
  and
• 14:35
  my
• 14:35
  husband
• 14:36
  had
• 14:36
  a
• 14:36
  few
• 14:36
  losses
• 14:37
  in
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  process.
• 14:38
  And
• 14:39
  I
• 14:39
  think
• 14:39
  that
• 14:40
  more
• 14:40
  than
• 14:41
  anything
• 14:41
  really
• 14:42
  pushed
• 14:42
  me
• 14:42
  to
• 14:43
  want
• 14:44
  family
• 14:44
  to
• 14:44
  be
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  focus
• 14:45
  of
• 14:45
  the
• 14:45
  book.
• 14:45
  Because
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  loss
• 14:47
  shows
• 14:47
  you
• 14:47
  what
• 14:48
  you
• 14:48
  have,
• 14:48
  right?
• 14:49
  Yes,
• 14:49
  absolutely.
• 14:50
  Yes.
• 14:50
  So
• 14:51
  sure.
• 14:51
  And
• 14:51
  the
• 14:51
  only
• 14:51
  reason
• 14:52
  I
• 14:52
  ask
• 14:52
  is
• 14:53
  when
• 14:53
  I
• 14:53
  talk
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  children's
• 14:55
  book
• 14:55
  author
• 14:56
  mothers
• 14:57
  who
• 14:57
  like
• 14:57
  our
• 14:57
  children's
• 14:58
  book
• 14:58
  authors
• 14:58
  and
• 14:59
  they're
• 14:59
  also
• 14:59
  mothers
• 15:00
  of
• 15:00
  young
• 15:00
  children.
• 15:01
  It's
• 15:01
  always
• 15:01
  interesting
• 15:02
  because
• 15:02
  of
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  dynamic
• 15:03
  now
• 15:04
  that
• 15:04
  your
• 15:04
  son's
• 15:04
  in
• 15:04
  school
• 15:06
  opens
• 15:06
  up
• 15:06
  a
• 15:07
  couple
• 15:07
  of
• 15:07
  windows
• 15:07
  for
• 15:08
  you.
• 15:08
  Life
• 15:08
  has
• 15:09
  changed
• 15:09
  considerably
• 15:10
  from
• 15:11
  me
• 15:11
  raising
• 15:12
  my
• 15:12
  older
• 15:13
  kid.
• 15:13
  So
• 15:13
  when
• 15:14
  he
• 15:14
  was
• 15:14
  really
• 15:14
  little,
• 15:15
  he
• 15:15
  was
• 15:15
  going
• 15:15
  to
• 15:16
  daycare
• 15:16
  every
• 15:16
  day
• 15:17
  because
• 15:17
  I
• 15:17
  was
• 15:17
  working
• 15:18
  as
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  cabinet
• 15:18
  designer.
• 15:19
  That
• 15:20
  when
• 15:20
  we
• 15:20
  knew
• 15:20
  we
• 15:21
  were
• 15:21
  gonna
• 15:21
  have
• 15:22
  my
• 15:22
  daughter,
• 15:23
  I
• 15:24
  knew
• 15:24
  I
• 15:24
  didn't
• 15:25
  wanna
• 15:25
  do
• 15:25
  that
• 15:25
  again.
• 15:25
  I
• 15:26
  wanted
• 15:26
  to
• 15:26
  be
• 15:26
  a
• 15:26
  stay
• 15:26
  at
• 15:27
  home
• 15:27
  mother
• 15:28
  because
• 15:28
  I
• 15:28
  really
• 15:29
  struggled
• 15:29
  with
• 15:29
  working
• 15:30
  and
• 15:30
  having
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  kid.
• 15:31
  I
• 15:31
  wanted
• 15:32
  to
• 15:32
  have
• 15:32
  more
• 15:33
  time
• 15:33
  with
• 15:33
  my
• 15:33
  children.
• 15:34
  So
• 15:34
  we
• 15:34
  made
• 15:34
  this
• 15:35
  big
• 15:35
  decision
• 15:35
  to
• 15:36
  just
• 15:36
  go
• 15:36
  to
• 15:37
  my
• 15:37
  husband's
• 15:37
  income,
• 15:38
  which
• 15:38
  is
• 15:38
  obviously
• 15:39
  not
• 15:39
  an
• 15:39
  easy
• 15:40
  thing
• 15:40
  to
• 15:40
  do.
• 15:41
  But
• 15:42
  we
• 15:42
  took
• 15:42
  that
• 15:43
  hit
• 15:43
  because
• 15:43
  I
• 15:43
  really
• 15:44
  wanted
• 15:44
  that
• 15:45
  time
• 15:45
  with
• 15:45
  my
• 15:45
  second
• 15:47
  and
• 15:47
  through.
• 15:48
  That
• 15:49
  gave
• 15:49
  me
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  time
• 15:50
  to
• 15:50
  then
• 15:50
  start
• 15:51
  pursuing
• 15:51
  something
• 15:51
  I
• 15:52
  didn't
• 15:52
  think
• 15:52
  was
• 15:52
  possible,
• 15:53
  which
• 15:53
  became
• 15:53
  this
• 15:54
  book
• 15:54
  signed
• 15:55
  school.
• 15:56
  And
• 15:57
  read
• 15:57
  your
• 15:57
  book.
• 15:58
  I
• 15:58
  have,
• 15:59
  I
• 15:59
  have.
• 16:00
  That's
• 16:00
  the
• 16:00
  only
• 16:01
  classroom
• 16:01
  reading
• 16:02
  I've
• 16:02
  done
• 16:02
  so
• 16:03
  far
• 16:03
  was
• 16:03
  for
• 16:03
  his
• 16:04
  classroom.
• 16:05
  But
• 16:05
  it
• 16:05
  was
• 16:05
  such
• 16:05
  a
• 16:06
  fun
• 16:06
  experience
• 16:07
  at
• 16:07
  the
• 16:07
  end.
• 16:08
  They
• 16:08
  told
• 16:08
  me
• 16:09
  like,
• 16:09
  hey,
• 16:09
  when
• 16:09
  you
• 16:09
  finished
• 16:10
  reading,
• 16:10
  the
• 16:10
  kids
• 16:11
  are
• 16:11
  given
• 16:11
  time
• 16:11
  to
• 16:12
  ask
• 16:12
  you
• 16:12
  questions.
• 16:13
  And
• 16:13
  I
• 16:13
  was
• 16:13
  like,
• 16:13
  oh,
• 16:14
  okay,
• 16:14
  I'll
• 16:14
  be
• 16:14
  prepared
• 16:15
  for
• 16:15
  that.
• 16:15
  What
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  was
• 16:16
  not
• 16:16
  prepared
• 16:17
  for
• 16:17
  was
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  all
• 16:17
  the
• 16:17
  questions
• 16:18
  were
• 16:18
  just
• 16:18
  like,
• 16:19
  can
• 16:19
  you
• 16:19
  tell
• 16:20
  me
• 16:20
  a
• 16:20
  funny
• 16:20
  fact
• 16:20
  about
• 16:21
  your
• 16:21
  son?
• 16:22
  Or
• 16:22
  can
• 16:22
  you
• 16:22
  tell
• 16:22
  me
• 16:22
  a
• 16:22
  funny
• 16:23
  fact
• 16:23
  about
• 16:23
  your
• 16:23
  dad?
• 16:24
  And
• 16:24
  I
• 16:24
  was
• 16:24
  like,
• 16:24
  oh
• 16:24
  gosh,
• 16:25
  I
• 16:25
  don't
• 16:25
  know.
• 16:26
  So
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  had
• 16:26
  to
• 16:27
  come
• 16:27
  up
• 16:27
  with
• 16:27
  some
• 16:27
  stuff
• 16:28
  that
• 16:28
  would
• 16:28
  be
• 16:28
  appropriate
• 16:29
  for
• 16:29
  children
• 16:30
  as
• 16:30
  the
• 16:30
  funny
• 16:31
  stories
• 16:31
  about
• 16:32
  my
• 16:32
  family
• 16:32
  off
• 16:32
  the
• 16:33
  top.
• 16:34
  It
• 16:34
  was
• 16:35
  still
• 16:35
  such
• 16:35
  a
• 16:35
  fun
• 16:35
  experience.
• 16:36
  And
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  did
• 16:36
  have
• 16:36
  a
• 16:36
  lot
• 16:37
  of
• 16:37
  kids
• 16:37
  say
• 16:37
  that
• 16:38
  they
• 16:38
  liked
• 16:38
  the
• 16:39
  story,
• 16:39
  which
• 16:39
  was
• 16:39
  very
• 16:40
  fun
• 16:40
  to
• 16:40
  explain.
• 16:41
  And
• 16:41
  I'm
• 16:42
  thinking
• 16:42
  your
• 16:42
  book
• 16:43
  can
• 16:43
  transcend
• 16:44
  a
• 16:45
  normal
• 16:45
  children's
• 16:46
  book
• 16:46
  because
• 16:46
  most
• 16:46
  children's
• 16:47
  books
• 16:47
  are
• 16:47
  4
• 16:48
  to
• 16:48
  10
• 16:49
  and.
• 16:50
  But
• 16:50
  when
• 16:50
  you're
• 16:50
  talking
• 16:51
  about
• 16:51
  a
• 16:51
  family
• 16:51
  tree
• 16:52
  and
• 16:52
  parents
• 16:53
  or
• 16:53
  grandparents
• 16:54
  can
• 16:54
  get
• 16:54
  engaged
• 16:55
  in
• 16:55
  filling
• 16:56
  in
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  family
• 16:57
  tree
• 16:57
  at
• 16:57
  the
• 16:57
  back
• 16:57
  of
• 16:57
  your
• 16:58
  book,
• 16:58
  it
• 16:59
  really
• 16:59
  transcends
• 17:00
  ages.
• 17:00
  So
• 17:01
  I
• 17:01
  think
• 17:02
  you're
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  first
• 17:02
  person
• 17:03
  I've
• 17:03
  talked
• 17:03
  to
• 17:04
  a
• 17:04
  children's
• 17:05
  book
• 17:05
  author
• 17:05
  that
• 17:06
  their
• 17:06
  children's
• 17:07
  book
• 17:08
  can
• 17:09
  actually
• 17:10
  physically
• 17:11
  pull
• 17:11
  you
• 17:11
  in
• 17:12
  as
• 17:12
  a
• 17:12
  parent
• 17:12
  or
• 17:13
  grandparent.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:14
  that's
• 17:14
  fantastic.
• 17:14
  Thank
• 17:15
  you
• 17:15
  so
• 17:15
  much.
• 17:15
  That's
• 17:15
  wonderful
• 17:16
  to
• 17:16
  hear.
• 17:16
  No,
• 17:17
  I
• 17:17
  had
• 17:17
  a
• 17:17
  really
• 17:17
  hard
• 17:17
  time
• 17:18
  narrowing
• 17:18
  down
• 17:18
  the
• 17:19
  age
• 17:19
  group
• 17:19
  for
• 17:20
  like
• 17:20
  selling
• 17:21
  the
• 17:21
  book
• 17:21
  because
• 17:22
  that's
• 17:22
  one
• 17:22
  of
• 17:22
  the
• 17:22
  big
• 17:22
  steps
• 17:23
  of
• 17:23
  marketing
• 17:23
  is
• 17:24
  know
• 17:24
  your
• 17:24
  audience
• 17:24
  might
• 17:25
  have
• 17:25
  really
• 17:25
  tough
• 17:25
  time
• 17:27
  narrowing
• 17:27
  that
• 17:28
  down
• 17:28
  because
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  do
• 17:29
  feel
• 17:29
  like
• 17:29
  it
• 17:30
  is
• 17:30
  open
• 17:30
  to
• 17:30
  a
• 17:31
  wider
• 17:31
  range
• 17:31
  now.
• 17:32
  I
• 17:32
  did
• 17:32
  go
• 17:32
  with
• 17:32
  the
• 17:33
  younger
• 17:33
  age
• 17:33
  group
• 17:34
  because
• 17:34
  of
• 17:35
  the
• 17:35
  simplicity
• 17:36
  of
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  sentence
• 17:37
  structure
• 17:37
  and
• 17:37
  stuff
• 17:38
  like
• 17:38
  that.
• 17:38
  But.
• 17:39
  And
• 17:39
  it's
• 17:39
  just
• 17:39
  a
• 17:40
  silly
• 17:40
  beginning
• 17:41
  and
• 17:41
  there
• 17:41
  will
• 17:41
  be
• 17:43
  older
• 17:43
  kids
• 17:43
  that
• 17:44
  it
• 17:44
  might
• 17:44
  not
• 17:45
  appeal
• 17:45
  to
• 17:45
  as
• 17:45
  much,
• 17:46
  but
• 17:46
  when
• 17:46
  you
• 17:47
  bring
• 17:47
  it
• 17:47
  back
• 17:47
  to
• 17:47
  the
• 17:48
  end
• 17:48
  result
• 17:48
  of
• 17:49
  talking
• 17:49
  about
• 17:49
  family,
• 17:50
  it
• 17:50
  reopens
• 17:51
  it
• 17:51
  to
• 17:51
  everybody.
• 17:52
  And
• 17:52
  you
• 17:52
  know
• 17:52
  what,
• 17:52
  we
• 17:52
  all
• 17:53
  wrestle
• 17:53
  with
• 17:53
  that
• 17:54
  as
• 17:54
  children's
• 17:54
  book
• 17:54
  authors
• 17:55
  because
• 17:56
  we're
• 17:56
  writing
• 17:56
  books
• 17:57
  for
• 17:57
  generally
• 17:58
  4
• 17:59
  to
• 17:59
  10
• 17:59
  year
• 17:59
  olds
• 18:00
  and
• 18:01
  some
• 18:01
  of
• 18:01
  them
• 18:02
  are
• 18:02
  in
• 18:02
  their
• 18:03
  initial
• 18:03
  stages
• 18:03
  of
• 18:04
  learning
• 18:04
  how
• 18:04
  to
• 18:04
  read
• 18:05
  and
• 18:05
  you
• 18:06
  look
• 18:06
  at
• 18:06
  that.
• 18:06
  But
• 18:07
  at
• 18:07
  the
• 18:07
  end
• 18:07
  of
• 18:07
  the
• 18:08
  day,
• 18:08
  a
• 18:09
  child
• 18:09
  doesn't
• 18:09
  walk
• 18:10
  around
• 18:10
  with
• 18:11
  $20
• 18:11
  in
• 18:11
  their
• 18:12
  pocket
• 18:12
  and
• 18:12
  say,
• 18:13
  oh,
• 18:13
  I
• 18:14
  want
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  buy
• 18:14
  your
• 18:14
  book.
• 18:15
  It's
• 18:15
  the
• 18:15
  parent
• 18:16
  or
• 18:16
  the
• 18:16
  grandparent.
• 18:16
  Yes,
• 18:17
  you're
• 18:17
  selling
• 18:18
  to
• 18:18
  the
• 18:18
  parents.
• 18:19
  Absolutely.
• 18:19
  So
• 18:20
  yeah,
• 18:20
  so
• 18:20
  at
• 18:20
  marketing
• 18:21
  we
• 18:21
  all
• 18:22
  walk
• 18:22
  a
• 18:23
  very
• 18:23
  fine
• 18:23
  line
• 18:24
  because
• 18:24
  you're,
• 18:24
  you
• 18:25
  want
• 18:25
  to
• 18:25
  speak
• 18:25
  to
• 18:26
  your
• 18:26
  primary
• 18:27
  reader
• 18:29
  age
• 18:29
  4
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  10,
• 18:30
  but
• 18:30
  then
• 18:30
  on
• 18:31
  the
• 18:31
  same
• 18:31
  token,
• 18:31
  it's
• 18:32
  the
• 18:32
  parent
• 18:33
  that
• 18:33
  you
• 18:33
  need
• 18:33
  to
• 18:34
  or
• 18:35
  grandparent
• 18:35
  that
• 18:36
  you
• 18:36
  need
• 18:36
  to
• 18:36
  influence
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  purchase
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  book.
• 18:38
  Absolutely
• 18:40
  no.
• 18:40
  And
• 18:40
  I
• 18:40
  appreciate
• 18:41
  you
• 18:41
  saying
• 18:41
  that
• 18:41
  you
• 18:42
  feel
• 18:42
  like
• 18:42
  that
• 18:42
  would
• 18:42
  be
• 18:44
  easier
• 18:44
  to
• 18:45
  do
• 18:45
  with
• 18:45
  my
• 18:45
  subject
• 18:45
  matter.
• 18:46
  That's
• 18:46
  nice
• 18:46
  to
• 18:46
  hear
• 18:46
  and
• 18:47
  talk
• 18:47
  to.
• 18:47
  Us
• 18:48
  a
• 18:48
  little
• 18:48
  bit,
• 18:48
  I
• 18:48
  believe.
• 18:49
  Now,
• 18:49
  if
• 18:49
  I'm
• 18:50
  wrong,
• 18:50
  please
• 18:50
  correct
• 18:51
  me.
• 18:51
  I
• 18:51
  noticed
• 18:52
  you
• 18:52
  only
• 18:53
  sell
• 18:53
  it
• 18:53
  in
• 18:54
  the
• 18:54
  paperback.
• 18:57
  Okay,
• 18:57
  yes.
• 18:57
  So
• 18:58
  right
• 18:58
  now
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  am
• 18:59
  just
• 18:59
  selling
• 18:59
  through
• 19:00
  Amazon,
• 19:01
  through
• 19:01
  the
• 19:01
  KDP
• 19:02
  program.
• 19:03
  That's
• 19:03
  mostly
• 19:04
  a
• 19:04
  budgetary
• 19:05
  reason.
• 19:06
  Okay.
• 19:06
  I
• 19:07
  paid
• 19:08
  my
• 19:09
  initial
• 19:09
  main
• 19:10
  investment,
• 19:11
  went
• 19:11
  to
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  illustrations.
• 19:12
  So
• 19:13
  I
• 19:13
  found
• 19:13
  a
• 19:13
  wonderful
• 19:14
  artist.
• 19:14
  I
• 19:15
  fell
• 19:15
  in
• 19:15
  love
• 19:15
  with
• 19:15
  her
• 19:16
  style.
• 19:16
  That's
• 19:17
  where
• 19:17
  the
• 19:17
  money
• 19:17
  went.
• 19:18
  So
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  had
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  restrain
• 19:19
  myself
• 19:20
  on
• 19:20
  different
• 19:21
  products
• 19:22
  that
• 19:22
  could
• 19:22
  be
• 19:22
  made
• 19:22
  from
• 19:23
  it.
• 19:24
  So
• 19:24
  right
• 19:24
  now
• 19:24
  Amazon
• 19:25
  only
• 19:25
  does
• 19:26
  paperback
• 19:27
  for
• 19:27
  children's.
• 19:28
  For
• 19:28
  picture
• 19:29
  books
• 19:29
  like.
• 19:29
  And
• 19:30
  what
• 19:30
  about
• 19:30
  an
• 19:30
  ebook?
• 19:32
  I
• 19:32
  don't
• 19:32
  have
• 19:33
  an
• 19:33
  ebook
• 19:33
  yet.
• 19:34
  Only
• 19:34
  because
• 19:35
  I
• 19:36
  have
• 19:36
  no
• 19:37
  knowledge
• 19:37
  of
• 19:37
  that
• 19:38
  world
• 19:38
  at
• 19:38
  this
• 19:38
  moment.
• 19:38
  If
• 19:39
  you
• 19:39
  have
• 19:39
  anything
• 19:39
  you'd
• 19:39
  like
• 19:40
  to
• 19:40
  enlighten
• 19:40
  me
• 19:40
  on,
• 19:41
  I'll
• 19:41
  take
• 19:41
  it.
• 19:41
  But
• 19:42
  I
• 19:42
  do
• 19:43
  not
• 19:43
  interact
• 19:43
  with
• 19:44
  children's
• 19:44
  books
• 19:44
  on
• 19:45
  ebooks
• 19:45
  at
• 19:45
  all.
• 19:46
  So
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  didn't
• 19:47
  have
• 19:47
  my.
• 19:48
  I
• 19:48
  didn't
• 19:49
  have
• 19:49
  the
• 19:49
  right
• 19:49
  insight
• 19:49
  to
• 19:50
  know
• 19:50
  how
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  sell
• 19:50
  to
• 19:50
  them.
• 19:51
  And
• 19:51
  generally,
• 19:51
  just
• 19:52
  so
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  know,
• 19:52
  from
• 19:52
  what,
• 19:53
  from
• 19:53
  my
• 19:54
  experience
• 19:54
  and
• 19:55
  then
• 19:55
  the
• 19:55
  experiences
• 19:56
  of
• 19:56
  so
• 19:57
  far
• 19:57
  of
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  guests
• 19:57
  I've
• 19:58
  had
• 19:58
  on
• 19:58
  our
• 19:58
  show,
• 19:59
  ebook
• 19:59
  generally
• 20:00
  doesn't
• 20:00
  derive
• 20:01
  a
• 20:01
  lot
• 20:01
  of
• 20:02
  revenue.
• 20:03
  Sure.
• 20:04
  But
• 20:04
  a
• 20:04
  lot
• 20:04
  of
• 20:04
  people
• 20:05
  use
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  as
• 20:06
  a
• 20:06
  calling
• 20:07
  card
• 20:08
  when
• 20:08
  they're
• 20:08
  trying
• 20:08
  to
• 20:08
  book.
• 20:09
  Like,
• 20:09
  I've
• 20:10
  got
• 20:10
  a
• 20:10
  couple
• 20:10
  of
• 20:10
  children's
• 20:11
  book
• 20:11
  authors
• 20:12
  who
• 20:12
  have
• 20:12
  sent
• 20:12
  me
• 20:12
  their
• 20:13
  a
• 20:13
  PDF
• 20:14
  file
• 20:14
  of
• 20:14
  their
• 20:15
  book
• 20:15
  and
• 20:16
  some
• 20:16
  will
• 20:17
  send
• 20:17
  an
• 20:17
  E
• 20:18
  book.
• 20:18
  I
• 20:18
  was
• 20:18
  just
• 20:18
  curious
• 20:19
  about
• 20:19
  that.
• 20:19
  But
• 20:19
  I
• 20:20
  find
• 20:20
  when
• 20:21
  you
• 20:21
  have
• 20:21
  a
• 20:21
  book
• 20:21
  formatter
• 20:22
  who
• 20:23
  put
• 20:23
  your
• 20:23
  paper
• 20:24
  back
• 20:24
  together,
• 20:25
  generally
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  second
• 20:27
  question
• 20:27
  they
• 20:27
  ask
• 20:28
  you.
• 20:29
  Now,
• 20:29
  in
• 20:29
  this
• 20:29
  case,
• 20:30
  obviously
• 20:30
  I'm
• 20:31
  wrong.
• 20:31
  Usually
• 20:32
  like
• 20:32
  our
• 20:33
  children's
• 20:33
  book
• 20:34
  formatter
• 20:35
  who
• 20:35
  did
• 20:35
  the
• 20:36
  paperback
• 20:36
  said,
• 20:37
  and
• 20:38
  what
• 20:39
  about
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  ebook?
• 20:40
  Can
• 20:40
  I
• 20:40
  format
• 20:41
  that
• 20:41
  too?
• 20:42
  Oh,
• 20:43
  interesting.
• 20:44
  And
• 20:44
  so
• 20:44
  I
• 20:44
  said,
• 20:45
  absolutely.
• 20:45
  So
• 20:46
  we
• 20:46
  launch
• 20:46
  with
• 20:47
  paperback
• 20:48
  or
• 20:48
  soft
• 20:49
  cover
• 20:49
  and
• 20:49
  the
• 20:50
  ebook
• 20:50
  at
• 20:51
  the
• 20:51
  same
• 20:51
  time.
• 20:52
  Yeah,
• 20:53
  I
• 20:54
  think
• 20:54
  I.
• 20:54
  I
• 20:54
  didn't
• 20:55
  push
• 20:55
  on
• 20:55
  that
• 20:55
  too
• 20:56
  hard
• 20:56
  only
• 20:56
  because
• 20:58
  I
• 20:58
  did
• 20:58
  want
• 20:59
  the
• 20:59
  interactive
• 21:00
  aspect
• 21:00
  of
• 21:01
  the
• 21:01
  book
• 21:01
  that
• 21:02
  you
• 21:02
  can't
• 21:02
  accomplish
• 21:03
  through
• 21:03
  the
• 21:03
  ebook.
• 21:04
  I
• 21:04
  wanted
• 21:04
  people
• 21:04
  to
• 21:05
  actually
• 21:05
  be
• 21:05
  able
• 21:05
  to
• 21:06
  write
• 21:06
  in
• 21:06
  the
• 21:07
  pages,
• 21:07
  which
• 21:07
  is
• 21:08
  another
• 21:08
  reason
• 21:08
  why
• 21:08
  paperback
• 21:09
  did
• 21:09
  work
• 21:09
  for
• 21:10
  me.
• 21:10
  So
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  was
• 21:11
  okay
• 21:12
  with
• 21:12
  that.
• 21:12
  I
• 21:13
  am
• 21:13
  hoping
• 21:13
  to
• 21:14
  one
• 21:14
  day
• 21:14
  have
• 21:14
  some
• 21:15
  kind
• 21:15
  of
• 21:15
  board
• 21:15
  book
• 21:16
  version
• 21:16
  of
• 21:16
  it.
• 21:17
  I
• 21:18
  think
• 21:18
  once
• 21:19
  I
• 21:19
  have
• 21:19
  a
• 21:20
  couple
• 21:20
  more
• 21:20
  books
• 21:21
  under
• 21:21
  my
• 21:21
  belt,
• 21:21
  if,
• 21:22
  when
• 21:22
  that
• 21:23
  comes
• 21:23
  to
• 21:23
  fruition.
• 21:24
  Right.
• 21:24
  That
• 21:25
  I
• 21:25
  might
• 21:25
  be
• 21:25
  able
• 21:26
  to
• 21:26
  then
• 21:26
  go
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  publishers
• 21:28
  and
• 21:28
  see
• 21:28
  if
• 21:28
  there's
• 21:29
  a
• 21:29
  different
• 21:29
  way
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  going
• 21:30
  about
• 21:30
  it.
• 21:30
  But
• 21:31
  right
• 21:31
  now
• 21:31
  I
• 21:31
  have
• 21:31
  to
• 21:32
  stay
• 21:32
  my
• 21:32
  course
• 21:32
  a
• 21:32
  little
• 21:33
  bit,
• 21:34
  building
• 21:35
  some
• 21:36
  experience.
• 21:37
  So
• 21:37
  let's
• 21:37
  talk
• 21:37
  about
• 21:38
  your
• 21:38
  publishing
• 21:38
  approach.
• 21:39
  So
• 21:39
  each
• 21:40
  one
• 21:40
  of
• 21:40
  us
• 21:40
  comes
• 21:41
  at
• 21:41
  it
• 21:41
  in
• 21:42
  our
• 21:42
  own
• 21:42
  unique
• 21:42
  way.
• 21:43
  Like,
• 21:43
  some
• 21:43
  people
• 21:44
  are
• 21:44
  an
• 21:45
  indie
• 21:46
  children's
• 21:46
  book
• 21:47
  publisher,
• 21:47
  some
• 21:48
  are
• 21:48
  self
• 21:48
  published.
• 21:49
  Children's
• 21:49
  books
• 21:50
  do
• 21:50
  self
• 21:51
  publishing.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:51
  then
• 21:52
  there's
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  course
• 21:52
  a
• 21:53
  traditional
• 21:53
  route.
• 21:54
  And
• 21:55
  so
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  noticed.
• 21:57
  You
• 21:57
  are
• 21:57
  the
• 21:57
  publisher,
• 21:59
  correct?
• 21:59
  Yes.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:00
  I
• 22:00
  went
• 22:01
  full
• 22:01
  self
• 22:01
  publishing.
• 22:02
  That
• 22:02
  wasn't
• 22:03
  my
• 22:03
  initial
• 22:03
  intent.
• 22:04
  I
• 22:04
  did
• 22:04
  actually
• 22:05
  take
• 22:05
  a
• 22:05
  little
• 22:05
  left
• 22:05
  turn
• 22:06
  in
• 22:06
  the
• 22:06
  process.
• 22:07
  But
• 22:07
  you
• 22:07
  are,
• 22:08
  you
• 22:08
  are
• 22:08
  the.
• 22:08
  In
• 22:09
  what
• 22:09
  I
• 22:09
  call
• 22:10
  an
• 22:10
  indie
• 22:10
  book
• 22:10
  publisher
• 22:11
  or
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  independent
• 22:12
  book
• 22:12
  publisher,
• 22:13
  because
• 22:13
  you
• 22:13
  didn't
• 22:14
  you.
• 22:14
  When
• 22:15
  I
• 22:15
  say
• 22:15
  self
• 22:15
  publishing,
• 22:17
  a
• 22:17
  lot
• 22:17
  of
• 22:17
  people
• 22:18
  confuse.
• 22:19
  Like,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  know
• 22:19
  some
• 22:20
  of
• 22:20
  my
• 22:20
  guests
• 22:20
  and
• 22:20
  listeners
• 22:21
  have
• 22:21
  said,
• 22:22
  oh,
• 22:22
  what's
• 22:22
  the
• 22:23
  difference
• 22:23
  between
• 22:23
  indie
• 22:24
  and
• 22:24
  self
• 22:24
  publish?
• 22:24
  Now
• 22:25
  I
• 22:25
  always
• 22:25
  say
• 22:25
  indie
• 22:26
  is
• 22:26
  when
• 22:26
  you're
• 22:26
  the
• 22:27
  publisher.
• 22:28
  Self
• 22:28
  publish
• 22:28
  is
• 22:28
  when
• 22:29
  you
• 22:29
  get
• 22:29
  somebody
• 22:30
  to
• 22:31
  publish
• 22:31
  your
• 22:31
  book,
• 22:32
  but
• 22:32
  it's
• 22:32
  not
• 22:32
  traditionally
• 22:33
  published.
• 22:34
  You
• 22:34
  just
• 22:34
  hire
• 22:35
  a
• 22:35
  publisher
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  publish
• 22:36
  your
• 22:36
  book.
• 22:37
  And
• 22:37
  in
• 22:37
  your
• 22:37
  case,
• 22:38
  you're
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  publisher.
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  am
• 22:40
  the
• 22:40
  publisher,
• 22:40
  yes.
• 22:41
  So
• 22:41
  you
• 22:41
  got
• 22:41
  that
• 22:42
  skill.
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  have
• 22:43
  one
• 22:43
  thing
• 22:43
  under
• 22:43
  my
• 22:43
  belt.
• 22:44
  Yes,
• 22:44
  yes.
• 22:45
  And
• 22:45
  you're
• 22:45
  a
• 22:45
  children's
• 22:46
  book
• 22:46
  author
• 22:46
  and
• 22:47
  a
• 22:47
  publisher.
• 22:48
  Okay.
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  have
• 22:49
  to
• 22:49
  now
• 22:49
  assimilate
• 22:50
  that
• 22:50
  type
• 22:51
  of
• 22:51
  for
• 22:51
  myself.
• 22:52
  Thank
• 22:52
  you.
• 22:53
  Congratulations.
• 22:54
  Thank
• 22:55
  you.
• 22:57
  Yeah.
• 22:57
  So
• 22:57
  I.
• 22:57
  When
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  first
• 22:58
  started
• 22:58
  doing
• 22:59
  the
• 22:59
  research
• 22:59
  of
• 22:59
  different
• 23:00
  ways
• 23:00
  to
• 23:00
  publish,
• 23:01
  I
• 23:01
  originally
• 23:02
  thought
• 23:02
  that
• 23:02
  going
• 23:03
  through
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  literary
• 23:04
  agent
• 23:04
  was
• 23:05
  going
• 23:05
  to
• 23:05
  be
• 23:05
  the
• 23:05
  right
• 23:06
  route
• 23:06
  for
• 23:06
  me.
• 23:07
  And
• 23:07
  I
• 23:08
  did
• 23:08
  all
• 23:08
  the
• 23:09
  research.
• 23:09
  I
• 23:09
  went
• 23:10
  through
• 23:10
  the
• 23:10
  different
• 23:10
  agencies,
• 23:11
  I
• 23:11
  researched
• 23:12
  all
• 23:12
  the
• 23:12
  agents
• 23:12
  and
• 23:13
  sent
• 23:13
  out
• 23:13
  queries
• 23:14
  and
• 23:14
  did
• 23:14
  the
• 23:15
  whole
• 23:15
  thing.
• 23:15
  And
• 23:15
  the
• 23:16
  whole
• 23:16
  cult
• 23:16
  just
• 23:16
  became
• 23:17
  very
• 23:17
  disheartening
• 23:18
  very
• 23:18
  quickly.
• 23:19
  And
• 23:19
  not
• 23:19
  because
• 23:20
  you
• 23:20
  get
• 23:20
  no's
• 23:21
  like
• 23:21
  you
• 23:21
  expect
• 23:21
  no's.
• 23:22
  That's
• 23:22
  fine.
• 23:22
  My
• 23:23
  book's
• 23:23
  not
• 23:23
  going
• 23:23
  to
• 23:23
  be
• 23:24
  for
• 23:24
  every
• 23:24
  agency.
• 23:24
  That's
• 23:25
  understandable.
• 23:26
  The
• 23:26
  disheartening
• 23:26
  bit
• 23:27
  for
• 23:27
  me
• 23:27
  was
• 23:28
  the
• 23:28
  no
• 23:29
  response
• 23:30
  at
• 23:30
  all.
• 23:30
  Like
• 23:31
  they
• 23:31
  say,
• 23:31
  okay,
• 23:32
  we'll
• 23:32
  review
• 23:32
  it
• 23:33
  at
• 23:33
  some
• 23:33
  point
• 23:34
  in
• 23:34
  the
• 23:34
  next
• 23:34
  six
• 23:34
  to
• 23:35
  eight
• 23:35
  weeks.
• 23:36
  You
• 23:36
  might
• 23:36
  not
• 23:37
  get
• 23:37
  a
• 23:37
  response.
• 23:38
  If
• 23:38
  you
• 23:38
  don't,
• 23:38
  that's
• 23:39
  a
• 23:39
  no.
• 23:39
  So
• 23:40
  you
• 23:40
  have
• 23:40
  to
• 23:40
  wait
• 23:40
  months
• 23:41
  just
• 23:41
  to
• 23:41
  hear
• 23:42
  nothing.
• 23:43
  It
• 23:43
  was
• 23:43
  just
• 23:44
  difficult
• 23:44
  for
• 23:44
  me.
• 23:44
  I
• 23:45
  find
• 23:45
  myself
• 23:45
  hearing
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  story
• 23:47
  over
• 23:48
  and
• 23:48
  over
• 23:48
  again.
• 23:50
  And
• 23:50
  so
• 23:50
  when
• 23:51
  I'm
• 23:51
  talking
• 23:51
  to
• 23:52
  people,
• 23:52
  or
• 23:53
  hopefully
• 23:53
  we're
• 23:53
  talking
• 23:54
  to
• 23:54
  some
• 23:54
  aspiring
• 23:55
  children's
• 23:55
  book
• 23:56
  authors
• 23:56
  and
• 23:59
  the
• 23:59
  advice
• 23:59
  that
• 24:00
  I
• 24:00
  would
• 24:00
  give
• 24:00
  them
• 24:01
  based
• 24:01
  on
• 24:01
  what
• 24:02
  I'm
• 24:02
  hearing
• 24:03
  is,
• 24:03
  you
• 24:04
  know
• 24:04
  what,
• 24:05
  don't
• 24:05
  go
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  traditional
• 24:06
  published
• 24:06
  route
• 24:07
  because
• 24:07
  it'll
• 24:07
  take
• 24:08
  time
• 24:09
  and
• 24:09
  Effort
• 24:10
  and
• 24:10
  generally
• 24:11
  doesn't
• 24:12
  lead
• 24:13
  to
• 24:13
  your
• 24:13
  book
• 24:14
  being
• 24:14
  published,
• 24:15
  it.
• 24:15
  Certainly
• 24:16
  can,
• 24:16
  and
• 24:16
  it
• 24:16
  could
• 24:17
  totally
• 24:17
  work
• 24:17
  for
• 24:18
  other
• 24:18
  people.
• 24:19
  For
• 24:19
  me,
• 24:19
  it
• 24:20
  was
• 24:20
  possibly
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  little
• 24:21
  bit
• 24:21
  of
• 24:21
  just
• 24:21
  impatience
• 24:22
  in
• 24:22
  the
• 24:23
  process.
• 24:23
  You
• 24:23
  know
• 24:24
  what,
• 24:24
  it's
• 24:24
  interesting
• 24:25
  because
• 24:25
  I've
• 24:25
  talked
• 24:26
  to
• 24:26
  so
• 24:26
  many
• 24:27
  great
• 24:28
  children's
• 24:29
  book
• 24:29
  authors
• 24:29
  like
• 24:29
  yourself,
• 24:30
  who
• 24:30
  have
• 24:31
  what
• 24:31
  you
• 24:31
  would
• 24:32
  think
• 24:32
  is
• 24:32
  a
• 24:33
  very
• 24:33
  unique
• 24:34
  idea
• 24:35
  story.
• 24:36
  Sure.
• 24:36
  So
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  would
• 24:37
  think
• 24:37
  somebody
• 24:38
  would
• 24:38
  say,
• 24:39
  oh,
• 24:40
  anybody,
• 24:40
  Right?
• 24:41
  Yeah.
• 24:42
  And
• 24:42
  so
• 24:44
  who
• 24:44
  knows?
• 24:45
  But
• 24:45
  I'm
• 24:45
  just
• 24:45
  glad
• 24:46
  that
• 24:46
  you
• 24:47
  took
• 24:47
  the
• 24:47
  initiative,
• 24:48
  which
• 24:48
  is
• 24:48
  this
• 24:49
  what
• 24:49
  Part
• 24:50
  of
• 24:50
  this
• 24:50
  show
• 24:50
  is
• 24:50
  all
• 24:51
  about
• 24:51
  taking
• 24:51
  the
• 24:52
  initiative
• 24:52
  and
• 24:52
  becoming
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  published
• 24:54
  children's
• 24:54
  book
• 24:54
  author.
• 24:55
  That's
• 24:56
  why
• 24:57
  indie
• 24:57
  publishing
• 24:58
  becomes
• 24:58
  scary.
• 24:59
  Right.
• 24:59
  Because
• 25:00
  you
• 25:00
  then
• 25:00
  go,
• 25:00
  okay,
• 25:01
  so
• 25:01
  I'm
• 25:01
  now
• 25:01
  responsible
• 25:02
  for
• 25:02
  doing
• 25:02
  all
• 25:02
  of
• 25:02
  it,
• 25:03
  even
• 25:03
  though
• 25:03
  I
• 25:03
  don't
• 25:04
  know
• 25:04
  much
• 25:04
  about
• 25:04
  it.
• 25:05
  So
• 25:05
  you
• 25:05
  have
• 25:05
  to
• 25:06
  do
• 25:06
  a
• 25:06
  lot
• 25:06
  of
• 25:06
  research
• 25:06
  at
• 25:07
  the
• 25:07
  beginning.
• 25:07
  You
• 25:07
  have
• 25:07
  to
• 25:08
  talk
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  different
• 25:08
  people
• 25:08
  about
• 25:09
  how
• 25:09
  they
• 25:09
  went
• 25:09
  about
• 25:09
  it.
• 25:10
  But
• 25:11
  really,
• 25:11
  at
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  end
• 25:11
  of
• 25:11
  the
• 25:12
  day,
• 25:12
  for
• 25:12
  me,
• 25:12
  once
• 25:12
  I
• 25:13
  found
• 25:14
  Tori,
• 25:14
  my
• 25:14
  illustrator,
• 25:15
  it
• 25:16
  just
• 25:16
  led
• 25:16
  to
• 25:16
  the
• 25:17
  road.
• 25:17
  Right.
• 25:19
  It's
• 25:19
  really
• 25:19
  difficult
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  go
• 25:20
  to
• 25:20
  publishers
• 25:21
  with
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  finished
• 25:22
  product.
• 25:22
  They
• 25:22
  want
• 25:23
  to
• 25:23
  be
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  ones
• 25:23
  to
• 25:24
  be
• 25:24
  in
• 25:24
  charge
• 25:24
  of
• 25:25
  connecting
• 25:26
  you
• 25:26
  to
• 25:26
  the
• 25:26
  illustrator.
• 25:27
  They
• 25:27
  want
• 25:27
  to
• 25:27
  be
• 25:27
  the
• 25:28
  ones
• 25:28
  in
• 25:28
  charge
• 25:28
  of
• 25:28
  all
• 25:29
  the
• 25:29
  marketing.
• 25:29
  Not
• 25:29
  all
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  marketing,
• 25:30
  but
• 25:30
  most
• 25:30
  of
• 25:30
  it,
• 25:31
  and
• 25:31
  stuff
• 25:31
  like
• 25:31
  that.
• 25:31
  I
• 25:32
  guess
• 25:32
  mostly
• 25:32
  just
• 25:33
  so
• 25:33
  that
• 25:33
  there's
• 25:33
  a
• 25:33
  reason
• 25:33
  they
• 25:34
  get
• 25:34
  your
• 25:34
  money,
• 25:35
  Right?
• 25:35
  Absolutely.
• 25:36
  I
• 25:36
  want
• 25:36
  to
• 25:36
  provide
• 25:37
  a
• 25:37
  reason
• 25:37
  why
• 25:38
  you're
• 25:38
  paying
• 25:38
  them
• 25:39
  and
• 25:39
  taking
• 25:39
  some
• 25:39
  of
• 25:40
  the
• 25:40
  revenue.
• 25:41
  And
• 25:41
  to
• 25:42
  your
• 25:42
  point,
• 25:43
  Alyssa,
• 25:44
  the
• 25:44
  biggest
• 25:44
  thing
• 25:45
  that
• 25:45
  I
• 25:46
  want
• 25:46
  to
• 25:46
  share
• 25:47
  with
• 25:47
  others,
• 25:48
  because
• 25:48
  you
• 25:48
  shared
• 25:48
  it,
• 25:49
  and
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  want
• 25:49
  to
• 25:49
  make.
• 25:49
  I
• 25:49
  want
• 25:50
  to
• 25:50
  reinforce
• 25:50
  what
• 25:50
  you
• 25:51
  said,
• 25:51
  is
• 25:52
  that
• 25:53
  it
• 25:53
  is
• 25:54
  the
• 25:54
  most
• 25:54
  expensive
• 25:55
  part
• 25:55
  of
• 25:56
  being
• 25:56
  an
• 25:56
  independent,
• 25:57
  an
• 25:58
  indie
• 25:58
  book
• 25:59
  publisher.
• 25:59
  The
• 26:00
  biggest
• 26:00
  single
• 26:00
  expense
• 26:01
  is
• 26:01
  your
• 26:02
  illustrations.
• 26:03
  If
• 26:03
  you're
• 26:03
  not
• 26:03
  an
• 26:03
  illustrator.
• 26:04
  Right.
• 26:05
  The
• 26:05
  other
• 26:05
  things
• 26:06
  are
• 26:06
  relatively
• 26:07
  inexpensive
• 26:07
  because
• 26:08
  a
• 26:08
  lot
• 26:08
  of
• 26:08
  people
• 26:08
  say
• 26:08
  to
• 26:09
  me,
• 26:09
  what
• 26:09
  about
• 26:09
  an
• 26:09
  editor?
• 26:10
  And
• 26:10
  I
• 26:11
  say,
• 26:11
  an
• 26:11
  editor
• 26:12
  charges
• 26:12
  you
• 26:13
  by
• 26:13
  the
• 26:13
  word,
• 26:14
  and
• 26:14
  children's
• 26:15
  book
• 26:15
  needs
• 26:16
  to
• 26:16
  be
• 26:16
  between
• 26:17
  500
• 26:17
  and
• 26:18
  1,000
• 26:18
  words.
• 26:19
  So
• 26:20
  if
• 26:20
  you're
• 26:21
  getting
• 26:21
  charged
• 26:21
  by
• 26:21
  the
• 26:21
  word,
• 26:22
  I
• 26:22
  can
• 26:22
  assure
• 26:22
  you
• 26:23
  that
• 26:23
  most
• 26:24
  editors
• 26:25
  are
• 26:25
  editing
• 26:26
  60
• 26:26
  to
• 26:27
  120,000
• 26:28
  words.
• 26:29
  So
• 26:29
  it's
• 26:30
  not
• 26:30
  costing
• 26:30
  you
• 26:31
  a
• 26:31
  lot
• 26:31
  of.
• 26:31
  So
• 26:31
  don't
• 26:32
  be
• 26:32
  afraid
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  going
• 26:33
  to
• 26:33
  an
• 26:33
  editor,
• 26:34
  because
• 26:34
  that's
• 26:34
  going
• 26:34
  to
• 26:34
  be
• 26:34
  the
• 26:35
  probably
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  least
• 26:35
  expensive
• 26:36
  thing
• 26:37
  that
• 26:37
  you
• 26:38
  make
• 26:38
  an
• 26:38
  investment
• 26:38
  into
• 26:39
  your
• 26:39
  book
• 26:39
  on.
• 26:40
  Now,
• 26:40
  I
• 26:40
  want
• 26:40
  to
• 26:40
  say
• 26:41
  to
• 26:41
  that
• 26:41
  I.
• 26:42
  I
• 26:42
  don't
• 26:43
  grudge
• 26:43
  Tori
• 26:44
  the
• 26:44
  money
• 26:44
  I
• 26:45
  gave
• 26:45
  her.
• 26:45
  Like,
• 26:46
  she
• 26:46
  deserved
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  money
• 26:47
  that
• 26:47
  she
• 26:47
  got
• 26:47
  for
• 26:48
  all
• 26:48
  the
• 26:48
  work
• 26:48
  that
• 26:48
  she
• 26:49
  put
• 26:49
  into
• 26:49
  the
• 26:49
  book.
• 26:50
  I.
• 26:50
  It
• 26:51
  was
• 26:51
  just
• 26:51
  a
• 26:51
  Lot
• 26:51
  of
• 26:51
  money
• 26:52
  for
• 26:52
  me.
• 26:52
  So
• 26:53
  it's
• 26:53
  that
• 26:53
  kind
• 26:54
  of
• 26:54
  thing
• 26:54
  that
• 26:54
  I
• 26:54
  had
• 26:54
  to
• 26:55
  work
• 26:55
  through.
• 26:56
  That's
• 26:57
  my
• 26:57
  investment.
• 26:57
  That's
• 26:57
  where
• 26:58
  I
• 26:58
  got
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  be
• 26:59
  willing
• 26:59
  to
• 26:59
  put
• 26:59
  the
• 26:59
  money.
• 27:00
  And
• 27:00
  what's
• 27:00
  incredible
• 27:01
  about
• 27:01
  what
• 27:02
  you
• 27:02
  just
• 27:02
  said
• 27:02
  is
• 27:03
  I
• 27:03
  agree
• 27:03
  with
• 27:03
  you
• 27:04
  a
• 27:04
  thousand
• 27:04
  percent.
• 27:05
  If
• 27:06
  the
• 27:06
  illustrator.
• 27:07
  I
• 27:07
  had
• 27:08
  to
• 27:08
  source
• 27:08
  my
• 27:08
  own
• 27:09
  illustrator,
• 27:09
  it
• 27:09
  took
• 27:09
  me
• 27:10
  a
• 27:10
  while.
• 27:10
  I
• 27:11
  found
• 27:11
  one
• 27:11
  that
• 27:12
  I
• 27:12
  could
• 27:12
  work
• 27:12
  with,
• 27:13
  a
• 27:13
  very
• 27:13
  special
• 27:14
  guy.
• 27:14
  On
• 27:15
  Sunday,
• 27:15
  we're
• 27:15
  about
• 27:15
  to
• 27:16
  launch
• 27:16
  our
• 27:16
  second
• 27:16
  book,
• 27:17
  and
• 27:18
  he
• 27:19
  illustrated
• 27:19
  that
• 27:19
  book
• 27:20
  also.
• 27:21
  And
• 27:21
  what's
• 27:22
  incredible
• 27:23
  is
• 27:23
  that
• 27:25
  it
• 27:25
  becomes
• 27:26
  your
• 27:26
  assets.
• 27:27
  And.
• 27:28
  And
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  reason
• 27:29
  I
• 27:29
  say
• 27:29
  that
• 27:29
  to
• 27:29
  people
• 27:30
  is
• 27:30
  we're
• 27:31
  going
• 27:31
  to.
• 27:31
  We're
• 27:31
  going
• 27:32
  to
• 27:32
  talk
• 27:32
  in
• 27:32
  a
• 27:32
  moment.
• 27:33
  I
• 27:33
  don't
• 27:33
  want
• 27:33
  to
• 27:33
  get
• 27:33
  too
• 27:34
  far
• 27:34
  off
• 27:34
  the
• 27:34
  illustrator,
• 27:35
  but
• 27:35
  I'm
• 27:35
  going
• 27:35
  to
• 27:35
  talk
• 27:36
  to
• 27:36
  you
• 27:36
  about
• 27:36
  website
• 27:36
  development.
• 27:37
  But
• 27:38
  you
• 27:38
  have
• 27:39
  this
• 27:40
  access
• 27:41
  to
• 27:41
  these
• 27:41
  illustrations,
• 27:42
  so
• 27:43
  it's
• 27:43
  your
• 27:43
  property.
• 27:45
  So
• 27:45
  tell
• 27:46
  us
• 27:46
  a
• 27:46
  little
• 27:46
  bit
• 27:47
  about.
• 27:47
  You
• 27:47
  said
• 27:47
  it's.
• 27:48
  Oh,
• 27:48
  sorry.
• 27:48
  Tori.
• 27:50
  Tori,
• 27:50
  Kate.
• 27:51
  So
• 27:51
  tell
• 27:51
  us
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  little
• 27:52
  a
• 27:52
  bit
• 27:52
  about
• 27:53
  that.
• 27:53
  How
• 27:53
  did
• 27:54
  you
• 27:54
  find
• 27:54
  her
• 27:54
  and
• 27:54
  how
• 27:55
  did
• 27:55
  it
• 27:55
  all
• 27:55
  come
• 27:55
  to
• 27:56
  be?
• 27:57
  I
• 27:57
  swear,
• 27:58
  all
• 27:58
  I
• 27:58
  was
• 27:58
  doing
• 27:59
  was
• 27:59
  just
• 27:59
  scrolling
• 28:00
  on
• 28:00
  Instagram.
• 28:00
  I
• 28:01
  was
• 28:01
  scrolling.
• 28:02
  And
• 28:03
  I
• 28:03
  do
• 28:04
  follow
• 28:04
  certain
• 28:04
  artists.
• 28:05
  I
• 28:05
  love
• 28:06
  to
• 28:06
  watch
• 28:06
  people
• 28:06
  paint
• 28:07
  and
• 28:07
  stuff
• 28:07
  like
• 28:07
  that.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:08
  one
• 28:08
  of
• 28:08
  her
• 28:09
  images
• 28:09
  came
• 28:10
  up
• 28:10
  on
• 28:10
  my
• 28:10
  for
• 28:10
  you
• 28:11
  page
• 28:11
  or
• 28:11
  whatever,
• 28:12
  and
• 28:12
  I
• 28:12
  followed
• 28:13
  that
• 28:13
  to
• 28:13
  her
• 28:13
  stuff,
• 28:13
  and
• 28:14
  I
• 28:14
  just
• 28:14
  fell
• 28:14
  in
• 28:15
  love
• 28:15
  with
• 28:15
  her
• 28:15
  style.
• 28:16
  She
• 28:16
  uses
• 28:17
  really
• 28:17
  vibrant
• 28:18
  colors,
• 28:18
  but
• 28:18
  she
• 28:18
  adds
• 28:19
  a
• 28:19
  lot
• 28:19
  of
• 28:19
  textures
• 28:20
  that
• 28:20
  are
• 28:20
  unexpected
• 28:21
  to
• 28:21
  everything.
• 28:21
  And
• 28:22
  her
• 28:22
  characters
• 28:23
  are
• 28:23
  just
• 28:23
  so
• 28:23
  cute
• 28:24
  and
• 28:24
  vibrant.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:25
  I
• 28:25
  just.
• 28:26
  Once
• 28:26
  I
• 28:26
  pictured
• 28:27
  my
• 28:28
  book
• 28:28
  through
• 28:28
  her
• 28:29
  style,
• 28:30
  I
• 28:30
  really
• 28:30
  couldn't
• 28:31
  go
• 28:31
  back.
• 28:31
  I
• 28:31
  loved
• 28:32
  it
• 28:32
  so
• 28:32
  much,
• 28:32
  and
• 28:33
  she
• 28:33
  was
• 28:33
  just
• 28:33
  so
• 28:34
  wonderful
• 28:34
  to
• 28:34
  work
• 28:35
  with.
• 28:35
  So
• 28:35
  what
• 28:35
  happened
• 28:36
  was
• 28:36
  I
• 28:37
  followed
• 28:38
  her
• 28:38
  Instagram
• 28:38
  to
• 28:39
  her
• 28:39
  website,
• 28:40
  saw
• 28:40
  even
• 28:41
  more
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  what
• 28:41
  she
• 28:41
  could
• 28:42
  do,
• 28:42
  and
• 28:42
  was
• 28:43
  thrilled
• 28:43
  by
• 28:44
  all
• 28:44
  of
• 28:44
  it
• 28:45
  and
• 28:45
  knew
• 28:45
  that
• 28:45
  I
• 28:45
  wanted
• 28:46
  to
• 28:46
  at
• 28:46
  least
• 28:47
  see
• 28:47
  what
• 28:47
  the
• 28:48
  process
• 28:48
  was.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  contacted
• 28:50
  her
• 28:50
  through
• 28:51
  her
• 28:51
  email
• 28:51
  through
• 28:51
  the
• 28:52
  website
• 28:53
  and
• 28:53
  basically
• 28:54
  said,
• 28:54
  here,
• 28:54
  I
• 28:54
  have
• 28:55
  a
• 28:55
  silly
• 28:56
  little
• 28:56
  book
• 28:56
  idea.
• 28:58
  Would
• 28:58
  you
• 28:58
  be
• 28:58
  interested
• 28:59
  in
• 28:59
  doing
• 28:59
  a
• 28:59
  whole
• 28:59
  book?
• 29:00
  Have
• 29:00
  you
• 29:00
  done
• 29:00
  that
• 29:01
  before?
• 29:01
  What's
• 29:01
  the
• 29:02
  process?
• 29:02
  And
• 29:03
  she
• 29:03
  came
• 29:03
  back
• 29:03
  to
• 29:03
  me
• 29:04
  pretty
• 29:04
  quickly
• 29:04
  saying,
• 29:05
  oh,
• 29:05
  my
• 29:05
  God,
• 29:05
  absolutely.
• 29:07
  And
• 29:08
  basically
• 29:09
  what
• 29:09
  I
• 29:10
  would
• 29:10
  do
• 29:11
  is
• 29:11
  you
• 29:12
  need
• 29:12
  to
• 29:12
  tell
• 29:12
  me,
• 29:12
  like,
• 29:13
  how
• 29:13
  many
• 29:13
  pages,
• 29:14
  how
• 29:14
  many
• 29:15
  subjects
• 29:15
  are
• 29:15
  we
• 29:15
  talking
• 29:16
  about?
• 29:17
  And
• 29:17
  then
• 29:17
  it
• 29:18
  went
• 29:18
  to,
• 29:18
  I'm
• 29:19
  going
• 29:19
  to
• 29:19
  draw
• 29:19
  a
• 29:20
  basic
• 29:21
  draft
• 29:21
  for
• 29:22
  you,
• 29:22
  a
• 29:22
  rough
• 29:22
  draft
• 29:23
  of
• 29:23
  what
• 29:23
  it
• 29:23
  would
• 29:23
  look
• 29:23
  like
• 29:24
  and
• 29:25
  give
• 29:25
  you
• 29:25
  an
• 29:26
  estimate
• 29:26
  from
• 29:26
  that
• 29:27
  point
• 29:27
  and
• 29:28
  from
• 29:28
  there.
• 29:29
  Every
• 29:29
  step
• 29:29
  we
• 29:30
  took,
• 29:30
  I
• 29:30
  liked
• 29:30
  it
• 29:30
  more.
• 29:30
  And
• 29:31
  she
• 29:31
  was
• 29:31
  great
• 29:32
  because
• 29:32
  I
• 29:32
  find.
• 29:33
  If
• 29:33
  you
• 29:34
  look
• 29:34
  at
• 29:34
  our
• 29:35
  front
• 29:35
  covers,
• 29:35
  this
• 29:35
  is
• 29:36
  going
• 29:36
  to
• 29:36
  be
• 29:36
  our
• 29:37
  latest
• 29:37
  Book
• 29:37
  coming
• 29:38
  out.
• 29:39
  Wonderful.
• 29:40
  It's
• 29:40
  called
• 29:41
  Hijinks
• 29:42
  from
• 29:42
  the
• 29:42
  Big
• 29:42
  Head
• 29:42
  Folk
• 29:43
  Music
• 29:43
  Festival.
• 29:45
  It's
• 29:46
  actually
• 29:46
  co
• 29:46
  written
• 29:47
  with
• 29:47
  my
• 29:48
  oldest
• 29:48
  granddaughter,
• 29:49
  which
• 29:49
  is
• 29:49
  Caboose.
• 29:50
  Her
• 29:50
  name
• 29:51
  is
• 29:51
  Kira
• 29:52
  and
• 29:52
  Caboose
• 29:52
  starts
• 29:53
  with
• 29:53
  a
• 29:53
  K.
• 29:53
  And
• 29:54
  my
• 29:54
  middle
• 29:54
  granddaughter
• 29:55
  Bailey,
• 29:58
  we
• 29:58
  took
• 29:58
  a
• 29:58
  true
• 29:58
  story
• 29:59
  from
• 29:59
  a
• 29:59
  folk
• 30:00
  music
• 30:00
  festival
• 30:00
  and
• 30:01
  turned
• 30:01
  it
• 30:01
  into
• 30:01
  our
• 30:02
  next
• 30:02
  children's
• 30:02
  book.
• 30:03
  But
• 30:04
  notice
• 30:04
  on
• 30:04
  there
• 30:05
  we
• 30:05
  don't
• 30:05
  give
• 30:06
  our
• 30:06
  illustrator
• 30:07
  any
• 30:07
  credit.
• 30:08
  And
• 30:10
  not
• 30:10
  that
• 30:10
  he
• 30:10
  doesn't
• 30:10
  deserve
• 30:11
  credit,
• 30:12
  but
• 30:12
  we
• 30:12
  give
• 30:12
  him
• 30:13
  credit
• 30:13
  inside
• 30:14
  the
• 30:14
  book.
• 30:14
  His
• 30:14
  name
• 30:15
  is
• 30:15
  Inside,
• 30:16
  but
• 30:16
  we
• 30:16
  never
• 30:17
  gave
• 30:17
  them
• 30:17
  credit
• 30:18
  on
• 30:18
  the
• 30:18
  outside.
• 30:19
  So
• 30:19
  I.
• 30:20
  And
• 30:20
  I
• 30:20
  find
• 30:21
  it's
• 30:21
  probably
• 30:21
  about
• 30:22
  50,
• 30:22
  50
• 30:22
  with
• 30:23
  children's
• 30:24
  book
• 30:24
  authors.
• 30:25
  So
• 30:25
  I
• 30:25
  was
• 30:25
  just
• 30:25
  curious
• 30:26
  on.
• 30:26
  Because
• 30:27
  you've
• 30:27
  given
• 30:27
  your
• 30:28
  illustrator
• 30:30
  knowledge.
• 30:31
  Yes.
• 30:31
  Yes.
• 30:32
  Ignition.
• 30:32
  My
• 30:32
  cover
• 30:33
  has
• 30:33
  words
• 30:33
  by
• 30:33
  Alyssa
• 30:34
  and
• 30:34
  pictures
• 30:35
  by
• 30:35
  Tori.
• 30:35
  We
• 30:36
  also
• 30:36
  both
• 30:36
  have
• 30:37
  a
• 30:37
  page
• 30:37
  on
• 30:37
  the
• 30:37
  inside
• 30:38
  with
• 30:39
  our
• 30:39
  pictures
• 30:39
  that
• 30:40
  say
• 30:40
  like
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  little
• 30:40
  bio
• 30:41
  about
• 30:41
  each
• 30:41
  of
• 30:41
  us.
• 30:42
  Basically,
• 30:43
  I
• 30:43
  knew
• 30:44
  if
• 30:44
  I
• 30:44
  was
• 30:44
  going
• 30:45
  to
• 30:45
  pursue
• 30:45
  a
• 30:45
  picture
• 30:46
  book,
• 30:46
  I
• 30:46
  really
• 30:46
  wanted
• 30:47
  the
• 30:47
  art
• 30:47
  to
• 30:48
  be
• 30:49
  beautiful
• 30:49
  and
• 30:49
  something
• 30:50
  eye
• 30:50
  catching
• 30:50
  and
• 30:51
  like
• 30:51
  a
• 30:51
  big
• 30:51
  part
• 30:52
  of
• 30:52
  the
• 30:52
  story.
• 30:53
  And
• 30:53
  for
• 30:53
  me,
• 30:54
  reading
• 30:54
  this
• 30:54
  children's
• 30:55
  books
• 30:55
  with
• 30:55
  children,
• 30:56
  like
• 30:56
  they
• 30:56
  want
• 30:57
  to
• 30:57
  look
• 30:57
  at
• 30:57
  the
• 30:57
  picture.
• 30:58
  So
• 30:58
  the
• 30:59
  illustrations
• 30:59
  are
• 31:00
  just
• 31:00
  as
• 31:00
  important
• 31:01
  and
• 31:01
  depending
• 31:01
  on
• 31:02
  the
• 31:02
  book,
• 31:02
  sometimes
• 31:03
  even
• 31:03
  more
• 31:03
  than
• 31:03
  the
• 31:03
  words
• 31:04
  to
• 31:04
  me.
• 31:04
  So
• 31:04
  I'm
• 31:04
  curious,
• 31:05
  did
• 31:06
  you've
• 31:06
  given
• 31:06
  her.
• 31:07
  Has
• 31:07
  she
• 31:07
  given
• 31:08
  you
• 31:09
  your.
• 31:09
  Dude.
• 31:10
  What
• 31:10
  I
• 31:10
  mean
• 31:11
  by
• 31:11
  definitely
• 31:12
  talked
• 31:12
  about
• 31:13
  the
• 31:13
  book
• 31:13
  through
• 31:14
  her
• 31:14
  Instagram
• 31:15
  and
• 31:15
  stuff
• 31:15
  like
• 31:15
  that
• 31:16
  and
• 31:16
  has
• 31:16
  posted
• 31:17
  a
• 31:17
  few
• 31:17
  things
• 31:17
  about
• 31:17
  it,
• 31:18
  but
• 31:18
  not
• 31:18
  a
• 31:19
  whole
• 31:19
  lot.
• 31:19
  No,
• 31:19
  I
• 31:19
  wouldn't
• 31:20
  say.
• 31:20
  I,
• 31:21
  I
• 31:21
  don't
• 31:21
  know
• 31:21
  if
• 31:21
  she's
• 31:21
  been
• 31:22
  on
• 31:22
  the
• 31:22
  podcast.
• 31:22
  Okay.
• 31:23
  And
• 31:23
  you
• 31:23
  know
• 31:24
  what?
• 31:24
  The
• 31:24
  only
• 31:24
  reason
• 31:24
  I
• 31:25
  ask
• 31:25
  is
• 31:25
  because
• 31:26
  you
• 31:27
  know
• 31:27
  what?
• 31:27
  The
• 31:27
  average
• 31:27
  children
• 31:28
  book
• 31:28
  sells
• 31:29
  between
• 31:29
  100
• 31:30
  and
• 31:30
  500
• 31:30
  copies
• 31:31
  over
• 31:31
  the
• 31:32
  entire
• 31:32
  lifetime
• 31:33
  of
• 31:33
  the
• 31:33
  book.
• 31:34
  And
• 31:35
  again,
• 31:35
  I'm
• 31:35
  speaking
• 31:35
  to
• 31:36
  aspiring
• 31:36
  authors,
• 31:37
  is
• 31:37
  that
• 31:38
  you
• 31:38
  know
• 31:38
  what
• 31:39
  you
• 31:39
  need
• 31:39
  to
• 31:40
  make
• 31:40
  sure
• 31:40
  if
• 31:40
  you're
• 31:40
  going
• 31:41
  to
• 31:41
  give
• 31:41
  your
• 31:41
  illustrator
• 31:42
  credit
• 31:42
  on
• 31:43
  the
• 31:43
  front
• 31:43
  of
• 31:43
  your
• 31:43
  book.
• 31:44
  It's
• 31:44
  like
• 31:45
  a
• 31:45
  billboard
• 31:46
  and
• 31:46
  you're
• 31:46
  giving
• 31:47
  them
• 31:47
  credit
• 31:47
  and
• 31:47
  you're.
• 31:48
  And
• 31:49
  to
• 31:49
  me
• 31:50
  it
• 31:50
  should
• 31:50
  be
• 31:50
  I
• 31:51
  scratch
• 31:51
  your
• 31:51
  back,
• 31:52
  you
• 31:52
  scratch
• 31:53
  my
• 31:53
  back.
• 31:53
  And
• 31:54
  they
• 31:54
  should
• 31:54
  be
• 31:55
  tooting
• 31:56
  your
• 31:56
  horn
• 31:56
  as
• 31:57
  the
• 31:57
  children's
• 31:57
  book
• 31:58
  author
• 31:58
  as
• 31:58
  much
• 31:58
  as
• 31:59
  you
• 31:59
  are
• 32:00
  tooting
• 32:00
  their
• 32:01
  horn
• 32:01
  as
• 32:01
  the
• 32:02
  illustrator.
• 32:02
  Because
• 32:03
  you've
• 32:03
  got
• 32:03
  to
• 32:04
  really
• 32:04
  look
• 32:04
  under
• 32:04
  every
• 32:05
  nook
• 32:05
  and
• 32:05
  cranny
• 32:06
  for
• 32:06
  a
• 32:06
  children's
• 32:06
  book
• 32:07
  sale.
• 32:08
  Yes,
• 32:08
  absolutely.
• 32:09
  She
• 32:09
  has
• 32:09
  definitely
• 32:10
  posted
• 32:10
  about
• 32:10
  it
• 32:11
  and
• 32:11
  she's
• 32:11
  written
• 32:12
  some
• 32:12
  lovely
• 32:12
  things
• 32:13
  about
• 32:13
  it.
• 32:13
  But
• 32:13
  it
• 32:13
  has
• 32:13
  been
• 32:14
  a
• 32:14
  little
• 32:14
  bit.
• 32:14
  So
• 32:14
  maybe
• 32:14
  I'll
• 32:15
  give
• 32:15
  her
• 32:15
  a
• 32:15
  little
• 32:15
  poke
• 32:15
  soon.
• 32:16
  Yeah,
• 32:16
  you
• 32:16
  know
• 32:16
  what?
• 32:17
  Absolutely.
• 32:18
  And
• 32:18
  that's
• 32:18
  why
• 32:19
  to
• 32:19
  any
• 32:19
  aspiring
• 32:20
  book
• 32:20
  author,
• 32:21
  if
• 32:21
  I
• 32:21
  can
• 32:21
  give
• 32:22
  you
• 32:22
  some
• 32:22
  advice
• 32:22
  based
• 32:23
  on
• 32:23
  what
• 32:24
  I'm
• 32:24
  listening
• 32:24
  to.
• 32:25
  This
• 32:25
  is
• 32:25
  my
• 32:26
  45th
• 32:26
  it's
• 32:27
  children's
• 32:27
  book
• 32:27
  author
• 32:28
  interview.
• 32:29
  And
• 32:29
  I'm
• 32:29
  just
• 32:29
  hearing
• 32:30
  a
• 32:30
  reoccurring
• 32:31
  theme.
• 32:32
  And
• 32:32
  I
• 32:32
  just
• 32:33
  want
• 32:33
  people
• 32:33
  to
• 32:33
  understand
• 32:34
  what
• 32:35
  learning
• 32:35
  how
• 32:36
  to
• 32:36
  market
• 32:36
  your
• 32:37
  book
• 32:37
  is
• 32:37
  incredibly
• 32:38
  important
• 32:39
  because
• 32:40
  you
• 32:40
  know
• 32:40
  the
• 32:40
  chances
• 32:41
  of
• 32:41
  getting
• 32:41
  sales.
• 32:42
  You
• 32:42
  need
• 32:42
  everyone
• 32:43
  in
• 32:43
  your
• 32:43
  corner
• 32:44
  and
• 32:44
  if
• 32:44
  you've
• 32:44
  given
• 32:45
  somebody
• 32:45
  their
• 32:46
  due,
• 32:46
  I
• 32:47
  just
• 32:47
  encourage
• 32:48
  you
• 32:48
  to
• 32:48
  say
• 32:48
  to
• 32:49
  them,
• 32:50
  can
• 32:50
  you
• 32:51
  help
• 32:51
  me
• 32:51
  out?
• 32:52
  Yeah,
• 32:52
  absolutely.
• 32:53
  Yeah.
• 32:54
  No,
• 32:55
  thank
• 32:55
  you.
• 32:55
  Yep.
• 32:56
  I'm
• 32:56
  sorry,
• 32:56
  I
• 32:57
  hope
• 32:57
  I
• 32:57
  didn't
• 32:57
  make
• 32:57
  it
• 32:57
  sound
• 32:58
  like
• 32:58
  a
• 32:58
  lecture,
• 32:59
  but
• 32:59
  I.
• 32:59
  Just
• 33:00
  wanted
• 33:00
  to
• 33:00
  appreciate
• 33:00
  it.
• 33:01
  That's
• 33:02
  what
• 33:02
  you
• 33:02
  want
• 33:02
  to
• 33:02
  talk
• 33:02
  about
• 33:03
  for
• 33:03
  your
• 33:03
  podcast
• 33:04
  and
• 33:04
  I
• 33:04
  appreciate
• 33:05
  any
• 33:05
  advice
• 33:05
  that
• 33:05
  somebody
• 33:06
  wants
• 33:06
  to
• 33:06
  throw
• 33:06
  my
• 33:06
  way.
• 33:07
  So
• 33:07
  thank
• 33:07
  you.
• 33:07
  You're
• 33:08
  welcome.
• 33:08
  I
• 33:08
  want
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  talk
• 33:09
  to
• 33:09
  you
• 33:09
  about
• 33:10
  website
• 33:10
  development
• 33:11
  and
• 33:13
  this
• 33:13
  was
• 33:13
  a
• 33:13
  prime
• 33:14
  example,
• 33:14
  I
• 33:15
  want
• 33:15
  to
• 33:15
  share
• 33:15
  it
• 33:15
  with
• 33:15
  you
• 33:16
  is
• 33:17
  a
• 33:17
  lot
• 33:17
  of
• 33:17
  people
• 33:18
  said,
• 33:18
  oh,
• 33:18
  you
• 33:18
  should
• 33:19
  have
• 33:19
  a
• 33:19
  website
• 33:20
  before
• 33:21
  you
• 33:21
  launch
• 33:21
  your
• 33:21
  book.
• 33:22
  We
• 33:22
  didn't
• 33:22
  have
• 33:23
  a
• 33:23
  website
• 33:23
  before
• 33:24
  we
• 33:24
  launched
• 33:24
  our
• 33:24
  book.
• 33:25
  I
• 33:25
  didn't
• 33:25
  even
• 33:25
  give
• 33:26
  it
• 33:26
  much
• 33:26
  consideration.
• 33:27
  But
• 33:28
  as
• 33:28
  we
• 33:28
  were
• 33:29
  getting
• 33:29
  closer
• 33:29
  and
• 33:30
  closer,
• 33:30
  people
• 33:30
  were
• 33:31
  saying,
• 33:31
  oh,
• 33:32
  you
• 33:32
  should
• 33:32
  have
• 33:32
  a
• 33:32
  website.
• 33:33
  And
• 33:33
  I
• 33:33
  thought,
• 33:34
  oh,
• 33:34
  here
• 33:35
  we
• 33:35
  go,
• 33:35
  another
• 33:35
  expense.
• 33:38
  But
• 33:38
  at
• 33:38
  the
• 33:39
  end
• 33:39
  of
• 33:39
  the
• 33:39
  day,
• 33:39
  you
• 33:40
  have
• 33:40
  to
• 33:40
  have
• 33:40
  a
• 33:41
  platform
• 33:41
  where
• 33:42
  to
• 33:42
  market
• 33:42
  your
• 33:43
  book
• 33:43
  other
• 33:43
  than
• 33:43
  just
• 33:44
  Amazon.
• 33:45
  And
• 33:45
  I
• 33:45
  thought,
• 33:45
  oh,
• 33:46
  where
• 33:46
  do
• 33:46
  I
• 33:46
  get
• 33:47
  the
• 33:47
  artwork?
• 33:47
  How
• 33:48
  do
• 33:48
  I
• 33:48
  put
• 33:49
  this
• 33:49
  all
• 33:49
  together?
• 33:50
  Here
• 33:50
  was
• 33:50
  the
• 33:50
  incredible
• 33:51
  thing
• 33:52
  is
• 33:52
  that
• 33:53
  we
• 33:53
  had
• 33:53
  the
• 33:54
  artwork
• 33:54
  from
• 33:54
  our
• 33:54
  book.
• 33:56
  So
• 33:56
  we.
• 33:57
  And
• 33:57
  luckily
• 33:58
  for
• 33:58
  us,
• 33:58
  our
• 33:58
  book
• 33:58
  formatter
• 33:59
  was
• 33:59
  also
• 34:00
  a
• 34:00
  website
• 34:00
  design
• 34:01
  person.
• 34:01
  Oh,
• 34:02
  that's
• 34:02
  good.
• 34:02
  Yeah,
• 34:03
  they
• 34:03
  just
• 34:03
  took
• 34:04
  the
• 34:04
  illustrations
• 34:05
  and
• 34:05
  said,
• 34:05
  okay,
• 34:05
  what
• 34:06
  do
• 34:06
  you
• 34:06
  want?
• 34:06
  Where?
• 34:06
  Or
• 34:07
  just
• 34:07
  give
• 34:08
  me
• 34:08
  all
• 34:08
  your
• 34:08
  illustrations
• 34:09
  and
• 34:09
  tell
• 34:09
  me
• 34:09
  what
• 34:09
  you
• 34:10
  want.
• 34:11
  And
• 34:12
  magically
• 34:13
  our
• 34:13
  website
• 34:14
  came
• 34:15
  to
• 34:15
  life
• 34:15
  through
• 34:16
  our
• 34:16
  children's
• 34:17
  book
• 34:17
  illustrations.
• 34:18
  Anyways,
• 34:18
  that's
• 34:18
  something
• 34:18
  to
• 34:19
  think
• 34:19
  about.
• 34:19
  And
• 34:19
  I
• 34:20
  just
• 34:20
  throw
• 34:20
  that
• 34:20
  out
• 34:20
  at
• 34:21
  you
• 34:21
  and
• 34:21
  I'm
• 34:21
  curious,
• 34:22
  are
• 34:22
  you
• 34:22
  looking
• 34:23
  to
• 34:24
  build
• 34:24
  out
• 34:24
  a
• 34:25
  children's
• 34:25
  book
• 34:25
  author
• 34:26
  website?
• 34:27
  That
• 34:28
  is
• 34:28
  definitely
• 34:28
  something
• 34:29
  that
• 34:29
  is
• 34:30
  in
• 34:30
  the
• 34:30
  list
• 34:31
  of
• 34:31
  to
• 34:32
  accomplish
• 34:32
  at
• 34:33
  some
• 34:33
  point.
• 34:34
  That's
• 34:34
  one
• 34:35
  of
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  goals
• 34:35
  for
• 34:35
  sure.
• 34:36
  It
• 34:36
  has
• 34:37
  not
• 34:37
  been
• 34:37
  something
• 34:37
  that
• 34:37
  I
• 34:38
  have
• 34:38
  done
• 34:39
  enough
• 34:39
  research
• 34:39
  on
• 34:40
  yet.
• 34:40
  I
• 34:41
  have
• 34:41
  had
• 34:41
  a
• 34:41
  few
• 34:41
  people
• 34:41
  tell
• 34:42
  me
• 34:42
  that
• 34:42
  would
• 34:42
  be
• 34:43
  something
• 34:43
  good
• 34:43
  to
• 34:44
  do,
• 34:44
  but
• 34:45
  it's
• 34:45
  just
• 34:45
  been
• 34:46
  more
• 34:46
  of
• 34:46
  a.
• 34:46
  I
• 34:47
  wanted
• 34:47
  to
• 34:47
  focus
• 34:48
  on
• 34:48
  getting
• 34:48
  the
• 34:48
  book
• 34:49
  out
• 34:49
  first
• 34:50
  and
• 34:50
  then
• 34:50
  part
• 34:50
  of
• 34:51
  what
• 34:51
  I've
• 34:51
  been
• 34:51
  doing
• 34:52
  is
• 34:52
  doing
• 34:52
  some
• 34:53
  of
• 34:53
  the
• 34:53
  in
• 34:53
  person
• 34:54
  sales.
• 34:55
  I've
• 34:55
  done
• 34:55
  one
• 34:56
  book
• 34:56
  festival
• 34:57
  so
• 34:57
  far.
• 34:57
  I've
• 34:57
  now
• 34:58
  been
• 34:58
  accepted
• 34:58
  to
• 34:58
  two
• 34:59
  more.
• 34:59
  That'll
• 34:59
  be
• 35:00
  happening
• 35:00
  at
• 35:00
  the
• 35:00
  end
• 35:01
  of
• 35:01
  August
• 35:01
  and
• 35:01
  then
• 35:02
  one
• 35:02
  in
• 35:02
  September.
• 35:03
  I
• 35:03
  have
• 35:03
  the
• 35:03
  big
• 35:04
  goal
• 35:04
  of
• 35:04
  doing
• 35:04
  at
• 35:05
  least
• 35:05
  three
• 35:05
  for
• 35:05
  the
• 35:06
  year
• 35:06
  just
• 35:06
  to
• 35:06
  get
• 35:07
  myself
• 35:07
  out
• 35:07
  there
• 35:08
  doing
• 35:08
  it.
• 35:08
  Explain
• 35:09
  that
• 35:09
  to
• 35:09
  people
• 35:09
  listening.
• 35:10
  What's
• 35:10
  a
• 35:10
  book
• 35:11
  festival
• 35:12
  and
• 35:12
  what
• 35:13
  do
• 35:13
  you
• 35:13
  get
• 35:14
  from
• 35:14
  it?
• 35:14
  Who's
• 35:15
  the
• 35:15
  audience
• 35:15
  and
• 35:16
  who
• 35:16
  are
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  reaching?
• 35:17
  Each
• 35:17
  one
• 35:18
  can
• 35:18
  be
• 35:18
  a
• 35:18
  little
• 35:18
  bit
• 35:18
  different.
• 35:19
  The
• 35:19
  first
• 35:19
  one
• 35:20
  that
• 35:20
  I
• 35:20
  went
• 35:20
  to
• 35:21
  was
• 35:21
  just
• 35:21
  called
• 35:21
  Georgia
• 35:22
  Lit
• 35:22
  Fest
• 35:23
  and
• 35:23
  literally
• 35:24
  it
• 35:24
  was
• 35:25
  a
• 35:26
  multi
• 35:27
  gym
• 35:28
  building
• 35:29
  with
• 35:29
  tables
• 35:30
  around
• 35:30
  each
• 35:31
  room
• 35:32
  that
• 35:32
  each
• 35:32
  had
• 35:33
  an
• 35:33
  author
• 35:33
  and
• 35:34
  their
• 35:34
  books
• 35:34
  to
• 35:35
  present
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  people.
• 35:36
  And
• 35:36
  people
• 35:37
  could
• 35:37
  come
• 35:37
  through
• 35:37
  and
• 35:37
  peruse
• 35:38
  all
• 35:38
  of
• 35:38
  them
• 35:38
  just
• 35:39
  like
• 35:39
  you
• 35:39
  would
• 35:39
  at
• 35:39
  a
• 35:40
  food
• 35:40
  festival
• 35:40
  or
• 35:40
  something
• 35:41
  like
• 35:41
  that.
• 35:41
  But
• 35:41
  just
• 35:41
  focused
• 35:42
  on
• 35:42
  books
• 35:42
  and
• 35:43
  their
• 35:43
  authors
• 35:44
  where
• 35:44
  you
• 35:44
  can
• 35:45
  talk
• 35:45
  to
• 35:45
  people
• 35:45
  directly
• 35:46
  and
• 35:46
  give
• 35:46
  em
• 35:46
  your
• 35:46
  little
• 35:47
  pitch.
• 35:47
  And
• 35:48
  I
• 35:48
  was
• 35:48
  lucky
• 35:49
  enough
• 35:49
  to
• 35:49
  have
• 35:49
  a
• 35:49
  few
• 35:50
  first
• 35:50
  sales
• 35:50
  at
• 35:51
  that
• 35:51
  experience,
• 35:52
  which
• 35:52
  was
• 35:52
  pretty
• 35:53
  exciting.
• 35:53
  And
• 35:53
  then
• 35:54
  you
• 35:54
  got
• 35:54
  to
• 35:54
  go
• 35:54
  around
• 35:54
  and
• 35:55
  talk
• 35:55
  to
• 35:55
  the
• 35:55
  other
• 35:55
  authors.
• 35:56
  You
• 35:56
  could
• 35:56
  exchange
• 35:57
  pleasantries
• 35:58
  and
• 35:58
  maybe
• 35:58
  a
• 35:59
  contact
• 35:59
  card
• 35:59
  or
• 36:00
  something
• 36:00
  like
• 36:00
  that
• 36:00
  and
• 36:01
  build
• 36:02
  a
• 36:03
  connection
• 36:03
  through
• 36:03
  all
• 36:04
  of
• 36:04
  that.
• 36:04
  The
• 36:04
  next
• 36:05
  one
• 36:05
  that
• 36:05
  I
• 36:06
  am
• 36:06
  set
• 36:06
  up
• 36:07
  to
• 36:07
  do
• 36:07
  is
• 36:07
  actually
• 36:08
  more.
• 36:08
  It's
• 36:08
  called
• 36:09
  a
• 36:09
  yard
• 36:10
  sale.
• 36:10
  So
• 36:11
  it's
• 36:11
  meant
• 36:11
  to
• 36:11
  be
• 36:11
  more
• 36:12
  eclectic
• 36:13
  than
• 36:13
  just
• 36:13
  books.
• 36:14
  But
• 36:14
  I
• 36:14
  did
• 36:14
  tell
• 36:14
  them
• 36:15
  my
• 36:15
  primary
• 36:16
  product
• 36:17
  is
• 36:17
  a
• 36:17
  book.
• 36:18
  So
• 36:18
  as
• 36:18
  long
• 36:18
  as
• 36:18
  that's
• 36:19
  okay
• 36:19
  for
• 36:19
  your
• 36:20
  business,
• 36:20
  then
• 36:20
  I
• 36:21
  would
• 36:21
  like
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  participate.
• 36:22
  I'll
• 36:23
  create
• 36:23
  bookends
• 36:24
  and
• 36:25
  some
• 36:25
  ornaments
• 36:26
  and
• 36:26
  things
• 36:26
  like
• 36:26
  that
• 36:26
  to
• 36:27
  connect
• 36:27
  to
• 36:27
  the
• 36:27
  book
• 36:28
  in
• 36:28
  order
• 36:28
  to
• 36:28
  bring
• 36:29
  people
• 36:29
  into
• 36:29
  the
• 36:29
  booth
• 36:30
  and
• 36:30
  to
• 36:30
  hopefully
• 36:30
  get
• 36:31
  some
• 36:31
  sales.
• 36:31
  That
• 36:31
  way
• 36:32
  my
• 36:32
  dad
• 36:32
  helps
• 36:33
  me
• 36:33
  make
• 36:33
  the
• 36:33
  bookends
• 36:34
  and
• 36:34
  stuff
• 36:34
  like
• 36:34
  that,
• 36:35
  which
• 36:35
  is
• 36:35
  really
• 36:35
  fun
• 36:35
  for
• 36:36
  the
• 36:36
  two
• 36:36
  of
• 36:36
  us
• 36:36
  to
• 36:37
  do.
• 36:37
  And
• 36:38
  then
• 36:38
  the
• 36:38
  next
• 36:38
  one
• 36:39
  in
• 36:39
  September
• 36:40
  is
• 36:40
  actually
• 36:40
  specific
• 36:41
  for
• 36:41
  the
• 36:41
  library
• 36:42
  community.
• 36:43
  So
• 36:43
  that
• 36:43
  is
• 36:44
  going
• 36:44
  to
• 36:44
  be
• 36:44
  at
• 36:44
  a
• 36:44
  library
• 36:45
  with
• 36:45
  only
• 36:46
  local
• 36:46
  authors
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  that
• 36:48
  county.
• 36:48
  And
• 36:49
  I
• 36:49
  got
• 36:49
  my
• 36:49
  acceptance
• 36:50
  for
• 36:50
  that
• 36:50
  one
• 36:51
  today,
• 36:51
  which
• 36:51
  is
• 36:51
  pretty
• 36:52
  exciting.
• 36:52
  So
• 36:52
  I
• 36:52
  look
• 36:52
  forward
• 36:53
  to.
• 36:54
  Thank
• 36:54
  you
• 36:54
  very
• 36:54
  much.
• 36:55
  You're
• 36:55
  welcome.
• 36:56
  We
• 36:56
  just
• 36:56
  talked
• 36:56
  a
• 36:57
  little
• 36:57
  bit
• 36:57
  about
• 36:57
  your
• 36:57
  website
• 36:58
  and.
• 36:58
  Or
• 36:59
  looking
• 37:00
  at
• 37:00
  developing.
• 37:01
  Yeah,
• 37:02
  but
• 37:02
  no,
• 37:02
  but
• 37:03
  I
• 37:03
  want
• 37:03
  to
• 37:03
  give
• 37:03
  you
• 37:03
  a
• 37:03
  big
• 37:04
  compliment
• 37:04
  because
• 37:05
  I
• 37:05
  want
• 37:05
  people
• 37:05
  to
• 37:05
  understand
• 37:06
  that
• 37:06
  there's
• 37:07
  more
• 37:07
  than
• 37:07
  one
• 37:08
  way
• 37:08
  to
• 37:08
  skin
• 37:09
  a
• 37:09
  cat.
• 37:10
  And
• 37:11
  so
• 37:11
  when
• 37:11
  I
• 37:12
  look
• 37:12
  at
• 37:12
  your
• 37:13
  Instagram,
• 37:14
  I
• 37:14
  noticed
• 37:15
  that
• 37:15
  you
• 37:15
  have
• 37:16
  1178
• 37:17
  followers.
• 37:19
  I
• 37:19
  thought,
• 37:20
  wow,
• 37:21
  because
• 37:21
  you
• 37:21
  know
• 37:21
  what,
• 37:22
  if
• 37:22
  you
• 37:22
  look
• 37:22
  at
• 37:23
  our
• 37:23
  social
• 37:23
  media,
• 37:24
  that's
• 37:25
  something
• 37:25
  I
• 37:25
  haven't
• 37:25
  really
• 37:26
  focused
• 37:26
  on
• 37:27
  because
• 37:28
  that's
• 37:28
  just
• 37:28
  how
• 37:28
  I
• 37:29
  felt.
• 37:29
  I
• 37:29
  was
• 37:30
  getting
• 37:30
  this
• 37:30
  pressure
• 37:30
  to
• 37:31
  develop
• 37:31
  a
• 37:31
  website
• 37:32
  before
• 37:33
  developing
• 37:33
  my
• 37:34
  social
• 37:34
  media.
• 37:35
  So
• 37:35
  when
• 37:35
  I
• 37:36
  looked
• 37:36
  at
• 37:36
  your
• 37:37
  Instagram
• 37:37
  I
• 37:38
  noticed
• 37:38
  you
• 37:38
  have
• 37:38
  1182.
• 37:40
  And
• 37:40
  then
• 37:41
  I
• 37:41
  just
• 37:41
  started
• 37:41
  following
• 37:41
  you.
• 37:42
  So
• 37:42
  you're
• 37:42
  1183.
• 37:44
  Oh,
• 37:44
  thank
• 37:44
  you
• 37:44
  very
• 37:45
  much.
• 37:46
  I
• 37:46
  appreciate
• 37:47
  it.
• 37:47
  I
• 37:48
  want
• 37:48
  people
• 37:48
  to
• 37:48
  understand
• 37:48
  that
• 37:49
  if
• 37:49
  you're
• 37:49
  going
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  put
• 37:50
  the
• 37:50
  effort
• 37:50
  in,
• 37:51
  as
• 37:51
  Alyssa
• 37:52
  has
• 37:52
  done,
• 37:53
  and
• 37:53
  create
• 37:54
  a
• 37:54
  fairly
• 37:55
  large
• 37:55
  following
• 37:55
  on
• 37:56
  your
• 37:56
  Instagram,
• 37:57
  then.
• 37:58
  And
• 37:58
  I
• 37:58
  noticed
• 37:59
  that
• 37:59
  you
• 37:59
  had
• 38:00
  three
• 38:00
  different
• 38:00
  posts,
• 38:01
  like
• 38:01
  your
• 38:01
  cover
• 38:01
  post,
• 38:02
  your
• 38:03
  book
• 38:03
  launch
• 38:04
  post,
• 38:05
  and
• 38:06
  one
• 38:06
  other
• 38:06
  post.
• 38:07
  Sorry.
• 38:07
  They
• 38:08
  all
• 38:08
  clicked
• 38:09
  together.
• 38:09
  I
• 38:09
  thought
• 38:10
  that's
• 38:10
  pretty
• 38:10
  cool.
• 38:11
  Trying
• 38:11
  to
• 38:11
  help
• 38:12
  other
• 38:12
  people
• 38:13
  and
• 38:13
  aspiring
• 38:14
  book
• 38:14
  authors.
• 38:16
  Tell
• 38:16
  me,
• 38:16
  how
• 38:17
  did
• 38:17
  you
• 38:17
  use
• 38:18
  your
• 38:18
  Instagram
• 38:19
  followers
• 38:20
  to
• 38:20
  help
• 38:21
  get
• 38:21
  the
• 38:21
  word
• 38:21
  out
• 38:21
  about
• 38:22
  your
• 38:22
  book?
• 38:23
  And
• 38:23
  what
• 38:23
  was
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  plan
• 38:24
  and
• 38:24
  how
• 38:24
  did
• 38:24
  it
• 38:25
  work?
• 38:25
  Or
• 38:25
  did
• 38:26
  it
• 38:26
  work?
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  guess
• 38:28
  I
• 38:28
  would
• 38:28
  say
• 38:29
  I
• 38:29
  am
• 38:29
  still
• 38:30
  probably.
• 38:31
  I'm
• 38:31
  just
• 38:31
  over
• 38:32
  a
• 38:32
  hundred
• 38:32
  book
• 38:32
  sales
• 38:33
  so
• 38:33
  far.
• 38:33
  So
• 38:34
  as
• 38:34
  far
• 38:34
  as
• 38:34
  success
• 38:35
  rate,
• 38:36
  I
• 38:36
  don't
• 38:36
  know
• 38:36
  how
• 38:36
  you
• 38:37
  grade
• 38:37
  that
• 38:37
  because
• 38:37
  I'm
• 38:37
  still
• 38:38
  very
• 38:38
  much
• 38:38
  at
• 38:38
  early
• 38:39
  stages
• 38:40
  as
• 38:40
  far
• 38:40
  as
• 38:40
  gaining
• 38:41
  a
• 38:41
  following,
• 38:41
  which
• 38:43
  1100
• 38:43
  is
• 38:44
  great.
• 38:44
  And
• 38:44
  I'm
• 38:44
  very
• 38:45
  pleased
• 38:45
  that
• 38:45
  I've
• 38:46
  amassed
• 38:46
  as
• 38:46
  much
• 38:46
  as
• 38:46
  I
• 38:47
  have
• 38:47
  so
• 38:47
  far.
• 38:47
  But
• 38:48
  I
• 38:48
  still
• 38:48
  wouldn't
• 38:48
  say
• 38:48
  that's
• 38:49
  a
• 38:49
  very
• 38:49
  big
• 38:49
  following.
• 38:51
  However,
• 38:52
  I
• 38:52
  did
• 38:52
  start
• 38:53
  the
• 38:53
  page
• 38:54
  well
• 38:54
  before
• 38:55
  my
• 38:55
  book
• 38:55
  was
• 38:55
  released,
• 38:56
  so
• 38:57
  at
• 38:57
  that
• 38:57
  point
• 38:57
  I
• 38:57
  didn't
• 38:58
  have
• 38:59
  the
• 38:59
  images
• 38:59
  of
• 39:00
  the
• 39:00
  art
• 39:00
  or
• 39:01
  anything.
• 39:01
  When
• 39:01
  you
• 39:01
  started
• 39:02
  the
• 39:02
  page,
• 39:02
  did
• 39:02
  you
• 39:02
  have
• 39:03
  the
• 39:03
  goal
• 39:03
  in
• 39:03
  mind
• 39:04
  of
• 39:04
  launching
• 39:05
  a
• 39:05
  book?
• 39:05
  Yes,
• 39:06
  that's
• 39:07
  it.
• 39:07
  The
• 39:07
  whole
• 39:07
  purpose
• 39:07
  of
• 39:08
  the
• 39:08
  Alyssa
• 39:08
  Cornwell,
• 39:09
  author
• 39:09
  Instagram
• 39:10
  page
• 39:11
  was
• 39:12
  to
• 39:12
  start
• 39:13
  building
• 39:13
  a
• 39:14
  following
• 39:14
  before
• 39:14
  the
• 39:15
  book
• 39:15
  even
• 39:15
  came
• 39:16
  out.
• 39:16
  Great
• 39:16
  advice.
• 39:17
  Most
• 39:18
  of
• 39:18
  my
• 39:18
  posts
• 39:19
  are
• 39:19
  of
• 39:19
  other
• 39:20
  children's
• 39:20
  books
• 39:21
  being
• 39:21
  held
• 39:22
  by
• 39:22
  my
• 39:22
  children.
• 39:23
  So
• 39:23
  they're
• 39:23
  all
• 39:23
  pictures
• 39:24
  I've
• 39:24
  taken
• 39:25
  with
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  hands
• 39:26
  of
• 39:26
  my
• 39:26
  children
• 39:27
  holding
• 39:27
  those
• 39:27
  books.
• 39:28
  I
• 39:28
  don't
• 39:28
  show
• 39:28
  their
• 39:28
  faces
• 39:29
  or
• 39:29
  anything
• 39:29
  like
• 39:29
  that,
• 39:30
  so
• 39:30
  it's
• 39:30
  just
• 39:30
  their
• 39:30
  hands.
• 39:31
  And
• 39:31
  then
• 39:31
  I'll
• 39:31
  write
• 39:32
  a
• 39:32
  little
• 39:32
  bit
• 39:32
  about
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  book
• 39:33
  and
• 39:33
  say
• 39:34
  how
• 39:34
  me
• 39:34
  and
• 39:34
  my
• 39:35
  children
• 39:35
  either
• 39:35
  enjoyed
• 39:36
  or
• 39:37
  we
• 39:37
  always
• 39:37
  enjoyed
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  book,
• 39:38
  but
• 39:39
  just
• 39:39
  talk
• 39:40
  a
• 39:40
  little
• 39:40
  bit
• 39:40
  about
• 39:40
  how
• 39:40
  we
• 39:40
  experienced
• 39:41
  it.
• 39:41
  Good
• 39:41
  for
• 39:42
  you.
• 39:42
  And
• 39:42
  then.
• 39:43
  And
• 39:43
  thank
• 39:43
  you
• 39:43
  for
• 39:44
  giving
• 39:44
  that
• 39:44
  way,
• 39:47
  doing
• 39:47
  what
• 39:47
  you
• 39:47
  did
• 39:48
  with
• 39:48
  your
• 39:48
  children.
• 39:48
  Because
• 39:49
  you
• 39:49
  know
• 39:49
  what,
• 39:49
  again?
• 39:50
  Oh,
• 39:50
  yes.
• 39:50
  Like
• 39:50
  I'm
• 39:51
  saying,
• 39:51
  the
• 39:51
  one
• 39:51
  thing
• 39:51
  I
• 39:52
  found,
• 39:53
  it's
• 39:53
  universal.
• 39:54
  The
• 39:55
  children's
• 39:55
  book
• 39:56
  author
• 39:56
  community
• 39:57
  is
• 39:57
  so
• 39:57
  giving
• 39:58
  and
• 39:58
  they
• 39:58
  all
• 39:58
  want
• 39:59
  to
• 39:59
  help
• 39:59
  each
• 39:59
  other.
• 40:00
  And
• 40:00
  so
• 40:01
  thank
• 40:01
  you
• 40:01
  for
• 40:01
  doing
• 40:02
  that
• 40:02
  with
• 40:02
  your
• 40:02
  children
• 40:02
  because
• 40:03
  you're
• 40:03
  teaching
• 40:03
  them
• 40:04
  something
• 40:05
  at
• 40:05
  a
• 40:05
  young
• 40:06
  age
• 40:06
  and
• 40:07
  that's
• 40:07
  an
• 40:07
  important
• 40:08
  lesson.
• 40:08
  Every
• 40:09
  book
• 40:09
  you
• 40:09
  hope
• 40:10
  will
• 40:10
  end
• 40:10
  up
• 40:10
  in
• 40:11
  a
• 40:11
  child's
• 40:11
  hands.
• 40:12
  That's
• 40:12
  why
• 40:12
  you
• 40:12
  write
• 40:12
  them.
• 40:13
  We
• 40:13
  write
• 40:13
  these
• 40:13
  children's
• 40:14
  books
• 40:14
  to
• 40:14
  hopefully
• 40:15
  lead
• 40:16
  to
• 40:16
  that
• 40:16
  experience
• 40:17
  of
• 40:17
  somebody
• 40:17
  else
• 40:18
  having
• 40:18
  a
• 40:18
  kid
• 40:18
  on
• 40:18
  their
• 40:19
  lap
• 40:19
  and
• 40:19
  reading
• 40:19
  the
• 40:19
  book
• 40:20
  together.
• 40:20
  That's
• 40:21
  the
• 40:21
  experience
• 40:21
  we
• 40:22
  love
• 40:22
  to
• 40:22
  have
• 40:23
  with
• 40:23
  those
• 40:23
  books.
• 40:24
  So
• 40:24
  I
• 40:24
  hope
• 40:25
  that
• 40:25
  leads
• 40:25
  to
• 40:26
  someone
• 40:26
  else
• 40:26
  doing
• 40:26
  that
• 40:27
  with
• 40:27
  Mike,
• 40:27
  we
• 40:28
  talked.
• 40:28
  About
• 40:28
  you
• 40:29
  sitting
• 40:29
  on
• 40:29
  the
• 40:29
  back
• 40:29
  porch
• 40:30
  with
• 40:31
  your
• 40:31
  family,
• 40:31
  getting
• 40:32
  some
• 40:32
  inspiration.
• 40:33
  No.
• 40:34
  And
• 40:34
  it's
• 40:34
  important.
• 40:35
  I
• 40:35
  think
• 40:35
  that's
• 40:35
  great
• 40:36
  to
• 40:36
  share.
• 40:36
  So
• 40:37
  I'm
• 40:37
  curious,
• 40:39
  is
• 40:39
  there,
• 40:40
  when
• 40:40
  it
• 40:40
  comes
• 40:40
  to
• 40:40
  the
• 40:41
  motivation
• 40:41
  or
• 40:42
  came
• 40:42
  to
• 40:42
  the
• 40:42
  motivation
• 40:43
  of
• 40:43
  getting
• 40:44
  your
• 40:44
  book
• 40:44
  actually
• 40:45
  going,
• 40:46
  was
• 40:46
  there
• 40:46
  a
• 40:46
  specific
• 40:47
  person
• 40:47
  or
• 40:48
  event
• 40:48
  beyond
• 40:50
  sitting
• 40:50
  on
• 40:50
  the
• 40:51
  back
• 40:51
  deck
• 40:51
  with
• 40:52
  the
• 40:52
  family?
• 40:54
  Actually.
• 40:54
  So
• 40:55
  what
• 40:55
  was
• 40:56
  funny
• 40:56
  about
• 40:56
  mine
• 40:57
  is
• 40:57
  I
• 40:57
  had
• 40:57
  written
• 40:58
  it
• 40:58
  a
• 40:58
  few
• 40:58
  years
• 40:59
  ago,
• 40:59
  actually,
• 40:59
  several
• 41:00
  years
• 41:00
  ago.
• 41:00
  My
• 41:00
  son
• 41:01
  was
• 41:01
  probably
• 41:01
  only
• 41:01
  two,
• 41:02
  maybe
• 41:02
  three
• 41:02
  at
• 41:03
  most,
• 41:04
  when
• 41:04
  I
• 41:04
  wrote
• 41:04
  most
• 41:04
  of
• 41:05
  it
• 41:05
  just
• 41:05
  on
• 41:05
  the
• 41:06
  yellow
• 41:06
  legal
• 41:06
  pad
• 41:07
  kind
• 41:07
  of
• 41:07
  thing.
• 41:07
  And
• 41:08
  life
• 41:08
  goes
• 41:09
  on,
• 41:09
  things
• 41:09
  happen.
• 41:10
  Forgot
• 41:10
  about
• 41:11
  it,
• 41:11
  genuinely.
• 41:12
  We
• 41:12
  were
• 41:13
  moving
• 41:13
  on
• 41:13
  to
• 41:13
  bigger
• 41:14
  things,
• 41:14
  and
• 41:14
  I
• 41:14
  forgot
• 41:15
  about
• 41:15
  it.
• 41:15
  And
• 41:15
  it
• 41:15
  wasn't
• 41:15
  until
• 41:16
  a
• 41:17
  good
• 41:17
  friend
• 41:17
  of
• 41:17
  mine
• 41:18
  came
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  tell
• 41:19
  me
• 41:19
  that
• 41:19
  his
• 41:19
  book,
• 41:20
  not
• 41:20
  a
• 41:20
  children's
• 41:20
  book,
• 41:21
  more
• 41:21
  for
• 41:21
  adult,
• 41:22
  had
• 41:22
  been
• 41:23
  picked
• 41:23
  up
• 41:23
  by
• 41:23
  a
• 41:23
  publisher
• 41:24
  and
• 41:24
  he
• 41:24
  was
• 41:24
  getting
• 41:24
  published,
• 41:25
  if
• 41:26
  I
• 41:26
  can
• 41:26
  plug
• 41:26
  him
• 41:26
  real
• 41:26
  quick.
• 41:27
  Daniel
• 41:27
  Quigley
• 41:27
  wrote
• 41:28
  a
• 41:28
  book
• 41:28
  called
• 41:28
  Thunderstruck,
• 41:29
  and
• 41:29
  it's
• 41:30
  very
• 41:30
  proud
• 41:30
  of
• 41:30
  him.
• 41:31
  And
• 41:32
  we'll
• 41:32
  put
• 41:32
  that
• 41:32
  in
• 41:33
  the
• 41:33
  show
• 41:33
  notes,
• 41:33
  by
• 41:33
  the
• 41:33
  way.
• 41:34
  I'm
• 41:34
  gonna
• 41:35
  do
• 41:35
  that.
• 41:36
  It's
• 41:36
  not
• 41:36
  for
• 41:37
  children.
• 41:38
  We'll
• 41:39
  just
• 41:39
  emphasize
• 41:40
  that
• 41:40
  a
• 41:40
  little
• 41:40
  bit.
• 41:41
  But
• 41:41
  genuinely,
• 41:42
  I
• 41:42
  had
• 41:42
  somebody
• 41:43
  with
• 41:43
  me
• 41:43
  telling
• 41:43
  me
• 41:43
  his
• 41:44
  story,
• 41:44
  and
• 41:45
  I
• 41:45
  went,
• 41:45
  oh,
• 41:45
  my
• 41:45
  God.
• 41:46
  I
• 41:46
  think
• 41:46
  Dan
• 41:47
  actually
• 41:48
  have
• 41:48
  most
• 41:49
  of
• 41:49
  a
• 41:49
  children's
• 41:50
  book
• 41:50
  written
• 41:50
  a
• 41:50
  while
• 41:50
  ago.
• 41:51
  And
• 41:51
  I
• 41:51
  went
• 41:52
  looking
• 41:52
  and
• 41:52
  I
• 41:52
  found
• 41:53
  the
• 41:53
  yellow
• 41:53
  legal
• 41:54
  pad.
• 41:55
  And
• 41:55
  I
• 41:56
  was
• 41:56
  able
• 41:56
  to
• 41:57
  have
• 41:57
  this
• 41:57
  weird
• 41:57
  experience
• 41:58
  where
• 41:58
  I
• 41:58
  could
• 41:58
  read
• 41:59
  a
• 41:59
  book
• 42:00
  that
• 42:00
  I
• 42:00
  had
• 42:00
  written
• 42:01
  but
• 42:01
  not
• 42:02
  remembering
• 42:02
  the
• 42:02
  whole
• 42:03
  thing.
• 42:03
  So
• 42:03
  I
• 42:03
  got
• 42:03
  to
• 42:03
  read
• 42:04
  it
• 42:04
  with
• 42:04
  completely
• 42:04
  fresh
• 42:05
  eyes.
• 42:06
  And
• 42:06
  when
• 42:06
  I
• 42:07
  did.
• 42:07
  Yes.
• 42:07
  And
• 42:08
  when
• 42:08
  I
• 42:08
  did
• 42:08
  that,
• 42:08
  I
• 42:09
  went,
• 42:09
  oh,
• 42:09
  wow.
• 42:09
  I
• 42:09
  think
• 42:10
  I
• 42:10
  still
• 42:10
  really
• 42:10
  like
• 42:11
  this.
• 42:12
  And
• 42:12
  it
• 42:13
  was
• 42:13
  the
• 42:13
  moment
• 42:14
  that
• 42:14
  I
• 42:14
  was
• 42:14
  able
• 42:15
  to
• 42:15
  reread
• 42:15
  it
• 42:15
  and
• 42:16
  connect
• 42:16
  the
• 42:17
  silly
• 42:17
  answers
• 42:18
  that
• 42:18
  the
• 42:18
  children
• 42:19
  in
• 42:19
  class
• 42:19
  were
• 42:19
  giving
• 42:20
  to
• 42:20
  the
• 42:20
  question
• 42:21
  to
• 42:22
  a
• 42:22
  teacher
• 42:23
  explaining
• 42:23
  about
• 42:23
  family
• 42:24
  trees
• 42:24
  that
• 42:24
  I
• 42:24
  decided
• 42:25
  this
• 42:25
  is
• 42:25
  actually
• 42:26
  something
• 42:26
  I
• 42:27
  want
• 42:27
  to
• 42:27
  pursue.
• 42:28
  So
• 42:28
  that
• 42:28
  moment,
• 42:29
  that
• 42:29
  connection,
• 42:30
  all
• 42:30
  hit
• 42:31
  at
• 42:31
  the
• 42:31
  same
• 42:31
  time,
• 42:31
  which
• 42:31
  was
• 42:32
  pretty
• 42:32
  exciting.
• 42:33
  Yeah.
• 42:34
  So
• 42:34
  talk
• 42:34
  to
• 42:34
  us
• 42:34
  a
• 42:35
  little
• 42:35
  bit,
• 42:35
  because
• 42:36
  now
• 42:37
  it's
• 42:37
  neat
• 42:37
  that
• 42:37
  you
• 42:38
  went
• 42:38
  back
• 42:38
  with
• 42:38
  fresh
• 42:39
  eyes
• 42:39
  to
• 42:39
  your
• 42:40
  own
• 42:40
  material
• 42:41
  and
• 42:43
  talk
• 42:43
  to
• 42:43
  us
• 42:44
  a
• 42:44
  little
• 42:44
  bit
• 42:44
  about
• 42:44
  character
• 42:45
  development.
• 42:46
  So
• 42:46
  you
• 42:46
  have
• 42:46
  a
• 42:46
  classroom
• 42:47
  setting
• 42:48
  with
• 42:48
  students,
• 42:48
  which
• 42:49
  I
• 42:49
  love,
• 42:49
  and
• 42:50
  then
• 42:50
  you
• 42:50
  have
• 42:50
  a
• 42:50
  teacher
• 42:51
  walking
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  kids
• 42:52
  through
• 42:53
  it.
• 42:53
  So
• 42:54
  take
• 42:54
  us
• 42:54
  through
• 42:55
  that
• 42:55
  whole
• 42:55
  character
• 42:56
  development
• 42:57
  and
• 42:57
  why
• 42:57
  you
• 42:57
  took
• 42:57
  that
• 42:58
  approach.
• 42:59
  A
• 42:59
  lot
• 43:00
  of
• 43:00
  it
• 43:00
  stemmed
• 43:00
  from
• 43:00
  the
• 43:00
  fact
• 43:01
  that
• 43:01
  my
• 43:01
  older
• 43:01
  sister
• 43:02
  worked
• 43:02
  at
• 43:02
  a
• 43:03
  daycare
• 43:03
  for
• 43:03
  10
• 43:04
  years
• 43:04
  and
• 43:04
  she
• 43:04
  was
• 43:04
  always
• 43:05
  coming
• 43:05
  home
• 43:05
  with
• 43:06
  these
• 43:06
  stories
• 43:06
  about
• 43:06
  the
• 43:07
  children
• 43:07
  in
• 43:07
  her
• 43:07
  class.
• 43:08
  And,
• 43:08
  oh,
• 43:09
  this
• 43:09
  student
• 43:09
  did
• 43:10
  this
• 43:10
  crazy
• 43:10
  thing,
• 43:10
  and
• 43:11
  the
• 43:11
  student
• 43:11
  got
• 43:12
  into
• 43:12
  this
• 43:12
  mess.
• 43:12
  But
• 43:13
  they
• 43:13
  always.
• 43:13
  It
• 43:13
  was
• 43:14
  always
• 43:14
  a
• 43:14
  fun
• 43:14
  time.
• 43:15
  And
• 43:16
  when
• 43:16
  I
• 43:16
  started
• 43:17
  writing
• 43:18
  was,
• 43:19
  what
• 43:19
  were
• 43:19
  these
• 43:20
  students
• 43:20
  coming
• 43:21
  up
• 43:21
  with
• 43:21
  their
• 43:21
  question
• 43:22
  to
• 43:22
  the
• 43:22
  answers?
• 43:23
  And.
• 43:23
  But
• 43:23
  it
• 43:24
  had
• 43:24
  to
• 43:24
  lead
• 43:24
  somewhere.
• 43:25
  It
• 43:25
  had
• 43:25
  to
• 43:25
  become
• 43:26
  something
• 43:26
  more
• 43:26
  than
• 43:27
  just
• 43:27
  a
• 43:27
  silly
• 43:28
  question
• 43:28
  and
• 43:28
  a
• 43:28
  silly
• 43:29
  answer.
• 43:30
  So
• 43:30
  the
• 43:31
  students
• 43:31
  are
• 43:31
  talking
• 43:31
  about
• 43:32
  it,
• 43:32
  and
• 43:32
  I
• 43:33
  wanted
• 43:34
  one
• 43:34
  of
• 43:34
  the
• 43:34
  students
• 43:35
  to
• 43:36
  be
• 43:36
  the
• 43:36
  one
• 43:36
  to
• 43:36
  say,
• 43:36
  you
• 43:37
  know
• 43:37
  what?
• 43:37
  I
• 43:38
  really
• 43:38
  want
• 43:38
  to
• 43:38
  know
• 43:39
  this
• 43:39
  answer.
• 43:39
  Let's
• 43:40
  ask
• 43:40
  the
• 43:41
  teacher.
• 43:41
  So
• 43:42
  bringing
• 43:42
  in
• 43:42
  the
• 43:42
  adults
• 43:43
  to
• 43:44
  then
• 43:44
  explain.
• 43:45
  This
• 43:45
  is
• 43:45
  a
• 43:46
  little
• 43:46
  bit
• 43:46
  about
• 43:46
  how
• 43:46
  families
• 43:47
  work.
• 43:47
  Grownups
• 43:48
  are
• 43:48
  just
• 43:48
  kids
• 43:49
  that
• 43:49
  in
• 43:50
  fact
• 43:50
  grew
• 43:50
  up.
• 43:51
  And
• 43:51
  if
• 43:51
  you
• 43:52
  draw
• 43:52
  it
• 43:52
  out,
• 43:52
  it
• 43:53
  then
• 43:53
  creates
• 43:54
  the
• 43:54
  family
• 43:54
  tree.
• 43:55
  So
• 43:55
  it
• 43:55
  was
• 43:55
  all
• 43:55
  about.
• 43:57
  Any
• 43:57
  question
• 43:58
  can
• 43:59
  lead
• 43:59
  to
• 43:59
  a
• 44:00
  conversation
• 44:00
  that
• 44:01
  is
• 44:01
  fun
• 44:01
  and
• 44:02
  entertaining,
• 44:03
  but
• 44:03
  then
• 44:03
  also
• 44:04
  can
• 44:04
  have
• 44:04
  a
• 44:05
  real
• 44:05
  answer,
• 44:06
  if
• 44:06
  that
• 44:06
  makes
• 44:06
  sense.
• 44:07
  Yes.
• 44:08
  Okay.
• 44:09
  And
• 44:09
  the
• 44:09
  reason
• 44:09
  I
• 44:10
  asked
• 44:10
  that
• 44:10
  is
• 44:10
  because
• 44:11
  when
• 44:11
  you
• 44:11
  think
• 44:12
  of
• 44:12
  family
• 44:12
  trees,
• 44:13
  a
• 44:13
  lot
• 44:13
  of
• 44:13
  times
• 44:14
  it's
• 44:14
  family
• 44:15
  influencing
• 44:16
  you.
• 44:17
  You
• 44:17
  could
• 44:17
  have
• 44:18
  written
• 44:18
  it
• 44:18
  from
• 44:19
  a
• 44:19
  child,
• 44:20
  come
• 44:20
  to
• 44:20
  their
• 44:21
  parent
• 44:21
  or
• 44:21
  grandparent.
• 44:22
  Very
• 44:22
  true.
• 44:23
  Very
• 44:23
  true.
• 44:23
  At
• 44:24
  the
• 44:24
  heart
• 44:24
  of
• 44:24
  it,
• 44:24
  it's
• 44:24
  all
• 44:25
  about
• 44:25
  how
• 44:25
  different
• 44:26
  every
• 44:26
  family
• 44:27
  is.
• 44:27
  So
• 44:27
  to
• 44:28
  just
• 44:28
  have
• 44:28
  one
• 44:28
  family
• 44:29
  explain
• 44:29
  their
• 44:30
  experience
• 44:31
  or
• 44:31
  their
• 44:31
  tree
• 44:32
  doesn't
• 44:33
  quite
• 44:33
  cover
• 44:34
  the
• 44:34
  conversation.
• 44:35
  It's
• 44:35
  all
• 44:35
  about.
• 44:36
  What
• 44:36
  a
• 44:36
  great
• 44:36
  point.
• 44:36
  Thank
• 44:37
  you.
• 44:37
  It's
• 44:37
  all
• 44:38
  about
• 44:38
  how
• 44:38
  different
• 44:39
  everyone's
• 44:40
  family
• 44:40
  structure
• 44:41
  is.
• 44:41
  And
• 44:41
  it's
• 44:42
  nice
• 44:42
  that
• 44:42
  you
• 44:42
  broad.
• 44:43
  So
• 44:44
  multiple
• 44:45
  perspectives
• 44:45
  to
• 44:46
  bring
• 44:46
  to
• 44:46
  take
• 44:47
  that
• 44:47
  into
• 44:47
  consideration.
• 44:48
  So
• 44:48
  again,
• 44:48
  thanks
• 44:49
  for
• 44:49
  sharing.
• 44:49
  That's
• 44:50
  a
• 44:50
  real
• 44:50
  true
• 44:51
  nugget.
• 44:52
  So.
• 44:52
  Thank
• 44:52
  you.
• 44:52
  Thank
• 44:53
  you.
• 44:53
  Yeah.
• 44:53
  And
• 44:53
  when
• 44:54
  that
• 44:54
  became
• 44:54
  the
• 44:55
  heart
• 44:55
  of
• 44:55
  it,
• 44:56
  the
• 44:57
  images
• 44:57
  had
• 44:57
  to
• 44:58
  be
• 44:58
  very
• 44:58
  inclusive.
• 44:59
  It
• 44:59
  had
• 44:59
  to
• 44:59
  show
• 44:59
  different
• 45:00
  peoples
• 45:00
  from
• 45:00
  different
• 45:01
  walks
• 45:01
  of
• 45:01
  life
• 45:01
  and
• 45:01
  different
• 45:02
  kinds
• 45:02
  of
• 45:02
  students
• 45:03
  and
• 45:03
  that
• 45:03
  sort
• 45:03
  of
• 45:03
  thing.
• 45:04
  So
• 45:04
  let's
• 45:04
  expand
• 45:04
  on
• 45:05
  that
• 45:05
  because
• 45:05
  that
• 45:05
  sounds
• 45:06
  like
• 45:06
  we're
• 45:07
  getting
• 45:07
  into
• 45:07
  your
• 45:07
  theme,
• 45:09
  so.
• 45:09
  Yeah,
• 45:09
  absolutely.
• 45:10
  Describe
• 45:11
  the
• 45:11
  theme
• 45:12
  of
• 45:12
  the
• 45:12
  book,
• 45:13
  how
• 45:13
  that
• 45:13
  all
• 45:13
  developed.
• 45:15
  Was
• 45:15
  there
• 45:15
  some
• 45:16
  circumstance
• 45:16
  in
• 45:17
  your
• 45:17
  life?
• 45:18
  Yeah,
• 45:19
  actually,
• 45:20
  I
• 45:20
  have
• 45:20
  a
• 45:20
  half
• 45:21
  sister
• 45:21
  as
• 45:22
  well.
• 45:22
  My.
• 45:23
  I
• 45:23
  didn't
• 45:23
  know
• 45:24
  about
• 45:24
  her
• 45:24
  till
• 45:24
  I
• 45:25
  was
• 45:26
  nine.
• 45:26
  I
• 45:27
  think
• 45:27
  when
• 45:28
  she
• 45:28
  became
• 45:29
  old
• 45:29
  enough
• 45:29
  to
• 45:30
  go
• 45:30
  through
• 45:30
  the
• 45:30
  adoption
• 45:31
  agency,
• 45:32
  she
• 45:32
  found
• 45:33
  her
• 45:33
  birth
• 45:33
  mother,
• 45:33
  who
• 45:34
  is
• 45:34
  my
• 45:34
  mother.
• 45:35
  Okay.
• 45:35
  And
• 45:35
  that
• 45:36
  experience
• 45:36
  really
• 45:37
  opened
• 45:37
  my
• 45:37
  eyes
• 45:38
  to
• 45:38
  that.
• 45:38
  You
• 45:39
  grow
• 45:39
  up
• 45:39
  till
• 45:39
  you're
• 45:39
  nine
• 45:40
  thinking
• 45:41
  that
• 45:41
  your
• 45:41
  family
• 45:42
  is
• 45:42
  one
• 45:42
  way,
• 45:42
  and
• 45:43
  then
• 45:43
  suddenly
• 45:43
  there's
• 45:44
  another
• 45:44
  person
• 45:45
  in
• 45:45
  there
• 45:45
  that
• 45:45
  could
• 45:46
  have
• 45:46
  been
• 45:46
  there
• 45:46
  the
• 45:46
  whole
• 45:47
  time.
• 45:47
  And
• 45:47
  it
• 45:47
  brings
• 45:47
  up
• 45:47
  a
• 45:48
  lot
• 45:48
  of
• 45:48
  questions
• 45:48
  and
• 45:49
  brings
• 45:49
  a
• 45:50
  lot
• 45:50
  of
• 45:50
  curiosities
• 45:50
  and
• 45:51
  it
• 45:51
  brings
• 45:51
  a
• 45:51
  lot
• 45:51
  of
• 45:52
  new
• 45:53
  perspectives
• 45:54
  because
• 45:54
  suddenly
• 45:55
  I
• 45:55
  have
• 45:55
  this
• 45:56
  sister
• 45:56
  that
• 45:56
  I
• 45:56
  didn't
• 45:56
  know
• 45:57
  about.
• 45:57
  Now
• 45:57
  we
• 45:57
  now
• 45:57
  have
• 45:57
  a
• 45:58
  relationship
• 45:58
  with
• 45:58
  her.
• 45:59
  We.
• 45:59
  She
• 45:59
  lives
• 46:00
  pretty
• 46:00
  far
• 46:00
  away,
• 46:01
  so
• 46:01
  we
• 46:01
  don't
• 46:01
  see
• 46:01
  her
• 46:01
  very
• 46:02
  often,
• 46:02
  but
• 46:02
  we
• 46:02
  do
• 46:02
  keep
• 46:03
  up
• 46:03
  communication
• 46:04
  and
• 46:04
  she's
• 46:04
  doing
• 46:05
  great
• 46:05
  with
• 46:05
  her
• 46:05
  lovely
• 46:06
  family.
• 46:07
  Nice.
• 46:08
  Yeah.
• 46:08
  So
• 46:09
  my
• 46:09
  family
• 46:09
  tree
• 46:09
  is
• 46:09
  a
• 46:10
  little
• 46:10
  difficult
• 46:10
  to
• 46:10
  draw
• 46:11
  out
• 46:11
  now
• 46:12
  because
• 46:12
  there's
• 46:12
  a
• 46:13
  lot
• 46:13
  of
• 46:13
  different
• 46:13
  people
• 46:13
  that
• 46:14
  become
• 46:14
  involved.
• 46:14
  Absolutely.
• 46:15
  But
• 46:15
  as
• 46:15
  far
• 46:15
  as
• 46:16
  a
• 46:16
  theme,
• 46:17
  I
• 46:17
  always
• 46:18
  struggle
• 46:18
  with
• 46:18
  pinning
• 46:19
  that
• 46:19
  down
• 46:19
  specifically,
• 46:20
  but
• 46:20
  I
• 46:20
  suppose
• 46:21
  it's
• 46:21
  just
• 46:22
  how
• 46:22
  good
• 46:24
  it
• 46:24
  is
• 46:24
  to
• 46:25
  have
• 46:25
  a
• 46:25
  unique
• 46:26
  family.
• 46:27
  And
• 46:27
  that's
• 46:28
  something.
• 46:28
  Everybody
• 46:29
  has
• 46:29
  a
• 46:29
  unique
• 46:29
  family.
• 46:30
  But
• 46:30
  that
• 46:30
  is
• 46:31
  a
• 46:31
  lovely
• 46:31
  thing.
• 46:32
  That's
• 46:32
  a
• 46:32
  wonderful
• 46:32
  thing.
• 46:33
  And
• 46:33
  it's
• 46:33
  funny
• 46:33
  you
• 46:33
  should
• 46:34
  mention
• 46:34
  that
• 46:34
  because
• 46:34
  I've
• 46:35
  got.
• 46:35
  Not
• 46:35
  me
• 46:36
  personally.
• 46:36
  My
• 46:36
  wife
• 46:37
  found
• 46:38
  out
• 46:38
  that
• 46:38
  she
• 46:38
  had
• 46:39
  a
• 46:39
  half
• 46:39
  brother
• 46:40
  and
• 46:40
  half
• 46:40
  sister
• 46:41
  and
• 46:42
  she
• 46:42
  was
• 46:43
  much
• 46:43
  older.
• 46:43
  I
• 46:44
  think
• 46:44
  she's
• 46:44
  like
• 46:44
  a
• 46:45
  teenager.
• 46:46
  Wow.
• 46:46
  Yeah,
• 46:47
  yeah,
• 46:47
  yeah.
• 46:47
  I
• 46:47
  think
• 46:47
  a
• 46:48
  lot
• 46:48
  of
• 46:48
  people
• 46:48
  going
• 46:48
  through
• 46:48
  those,
• 46:49
  like,
• 46:49
  DNA
• 46:50
  things
• 46:50
  have
• 46:51
  discovered
• 46:51
  new
• 46:52
  family
• 46:52
  members.
• 46:53
  That's
• 46:53
  been
• 46:53
  a
• 46:53
  big
• 46:53
  thing
• 46:53
  that
• 46:54
  I've.
• 46:54
  Read
• 46:54
  for
• 46:54
  different
• 46:54
  people.
• 46:55
  I'm
• 46:55
  not
• 46:55
  sure
• 46:55
  if
• 46:55
  it
• 46:55
  was
• 46:56
  her
• 46:56
  mother's
• 46:57
  embarrassment.
• 46:57
  I'm
• 46:58
  not
• 46:58
  sure
• 46:58
  exactly
• 46:58
  what
• 46:59
  it
• 46:59
  was.
• 46:59
  It
• 46:59
  wasn't
• 47:00
  through
• 47:00
  any
• 47:00
  DNA
• 47:01
  or
• 47:01
  something.
• 47:01
  It
• 47:02
  was
• 47:02
  finally
• 47:02
  her
• 47:02
  mother
• 47:03
  revealing
• 47:04
  it.
• 47:05
  I
• 47:05
  see.
• 47:05
  But
• 47:06
  it
• 47:06
  took
• 47:06
  her
• 47:06
  mother
• 47:06
  a
• 47:06
  long
• 47:07
  time
• 47:07
  to
• 47:07
  reveal
• 47:08
  it.
• 47:08
  Interesting.
• 47:09
  I
• 47:09
  think
• 47:09
  for
• 47:09
  my
• 47:09
  mom,
• 47:10
  it
• 47:10
  was
• 47:10
  mostly
• 47:10
  just
• 47:11
  not
• 47:11
  knowing
• 47:11
  the
• 47:12
  right
• 47:12
  time
• 47:12
  to
• 47:13
  tell
• 47:13
  her
• 47:13
  story.
• 47:14
  That
• 47:14
  could
• 47:14
  be
• 47:15
  as
• 47:15
  simple
• 47:15
  as
• 47:16
  that.
• 47:16
  For
• 47:16
  sure.
• 47:17
  Yeah.
• 47:17
  Yeah,
• 47:18
  I
• 47:18
  know.
• 47:18
  We.
• 47:18
  We.
• 47:18
  The
• 47:19
  theme
• 47:19
  was
• 47:20
  a
• 47:20
  little
• 47:20
  harder
• 47:20
  to
• 47:21
  nail
• 47:21
  down.
• 47:21
  So
• 47:22
  let's
• 47:22
  talk
• 47:22
  about
• 47:23
  the
• 47:23
  central
• 47:23
  teaching
• 47:24
  of
• 47:24
  your
• 47:24
  book.
• 47:26
  Is
• 47:26
  that
• 47:26
  a
• 47:26
  little
• 47:26
  simpler
• 47:27
  to
• 47:27
  define?
• 47:29
  Yeah,
• 47:30
  I
• 47:30
  would
• 47:30
  think
• 47:30
  so.
• 47:31
  It's
• 47:31
  about
• 47:32
  teaching
• 47:32
  about.
• 47:33
  Maybe
• 47:33
  it's
• 47:34
  not
• 47:34
  so
• 47:34
  easy.
• 47:35
  Okay.
• 47:36
  Yeah.
• 47:36
  If
• 47:36
  you
• 47:37
  think
• 47:37
  about.
• 47:37
  Or
• 47:38
  even
• 47:38
  the
• 47:39
  lesson,
• 47:39
  it
• 47:39
  doesn't
• 47:40
  have
• 47:40
  to
• 47:40
  be.
• 47:40
  It's
• 47:40
  meant
• 47:41
  to
• 47:41
  be
• 47:41
  a
• 47:41
  very
• 47:42
  simple
• 47:42
  introduction
• 47:43
  to
• 47:43
  the
• 47:43
  world
• 47:44
  of
• 47:44
  ancestry
• 47:45
  and.
• 47:45
  Or
• 47:45
  genealogy.
• 47:46
  So
• 47:46
  genealogy
• 47:47
  is
• 47:47
  a
• 47:47
  little
• 47:47
  bit
• 47:48
  more
• 47:48
  thorough.
• 47:49
  It's
• 47:49
  got
• 47:49
  more
• 47:49
  of
• 47:49
  the
• 47:50
  stories
• 47:50
  and
• 47:50
  stuff
• 47:51
  like
• 47:51
  that,
• 47:51
  where
• 47:51
  the
• 47:51
  ancestry
• 47:52
  is
• 47:52
  more
• 47:52
  about
• 47:53
  the
• 47:53
  timeline
• 47:54
  of
• 47:54
  it
• 47:54
  all.
• 47:54
  So
• 47:54
  it's
• 47:55
  just
• 47:55
  meant
• 47:55
  to
• 47:55
  be
• 47:55
  a
• 47:55
  very
• 47:56
  simple
• 47:56
  introduction
• 47:57
  to
• 47:57
  ancestry
• 47:58
  and
• 47:58
  where
• 47:59
  you
• 47:59
  can
• 48:00
  bring
• 48:00
  up
• 48:00
  that
• 48:00
  conversation
• 48:01
  of
• 48:02
  your
• 48:02
  personal
• 48:03
  ancestry.
• 48:03
  So
• 48:04
  it's
• 48:04
  a
• 48:04
  lesson
• 48:05
  about
• 48:05
  the
• 48:06
  topic,
• 48:06
  but
• 48:06
  it's
• 48:06
  really
• 48:06
  a
• 48:07
  lesson
• 48:07
  about
• 48:07
  you
• 48:07
  and
• 48:08
  where
• 48:08
  you
• 48:08
  come
• 48:08
  from
• 48:08
  is
• 48:09
  what
• 48:09
  it's
• 48:09
  supposed
• 48:09
  to
• 48:10
  turn
• 48:10
  into,
• 48:10
  if
• 48:10
  it's
• 48:11
  possible.
• 48:11
  Thank
• 48:12
  you
• 48:12
  for
• 48:12
  sharing
• 48:12
  that.
• 48:12
  Because
• 48:13
  you
• 48:13
  know
• 48:13
  what?
• 48:13
  Even
• 48:14
  though
• 48:14
  I'm
• 48:14
  on
• 48:15
  ancestry,
• 48:16
  I
• 48:16
  never
• 48:16
  thought
• 48:17
  about
• 48:17
  the
• 48:17
  word
• 48:17
  genealogy.
• 48:18
  I
• 48:18
  just
• 48:18
  thought
• 48:19
  they
• 48:19
  were
• 48:19
  one
• 48:19
  and
• 48:19
  the
• 48:20
  same.
• 48:20
  But
• 48:20
  thank
• 48:20
  you
• 48:20
  for
• 48:21
  explaining
• 48:21
  that.
• 48:22
  That's
• 48:22
  fantastic.
• 48:23
  I
• 48:24
  had
• 48:24
  a
• 48:24
  little
• 48:24
  bit
• 48:24
  to
• 48:24
  go
• 48:25
  through
• 48:25
  this.
• 48:26
  I
• 48:26
  want
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  talk
• 48:26
  to
• 48:26
  you
• 48:27
  because
• 48:27
  you
• 48:27
  mentioned
• 48:27
  it.
• 48:28
  So
• 48:28
  you
• 48:28
  opened
• 48:28
  the
• 48:29
  door
• 48:29
  and
• 48:31
  you
• 48:31
  opened
• 48:31
  the
• 48:31
  door
• 48:32
  into
• 48:33
  your
• 48:33
  aspirations
• 48:34
  to
• 48:34
  write
• 48:35
  more
• 48:35
  children's
• 48:36
  books.
• 48:36
  And
• 48:36
  I've
• 48:37
  yet
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  talk
• 48:37
  to
• 48:37
  a
• 48:38
  guest.
• 48:38
  One
• 48:39
  of
• 48:39
  my
• 48:39
  first
• 48:39
  guests
• 48:39
  said,
• 48:40
  I
• 48:40
  thought
• 48:40
  it
• 48:40
  was
• 48:41
  one
• 48:41
  and
• 48:41
  done.
• 48:42
  He
• 48:42
  said,
• 48:43
  I
• 48:43
  thought
• 48:43
  I
• 48:43
  was
• 48:44
  going
• 48:44
  to
• 48:44
  write
• 48:44
  one
• 48:44
  children's
• 48:45
  book
• 48:45
  and
• 48:46
  I'm
• 48:46
  out
• 48:46
  of
• 48:46
  here.
• 48:47
  Now
• 48:48
  he
• 48:48
  has
• 48:48
  four.
• 48:49
  I'll
• 48:49
  confirm.
• 48:50
  That's
• 48:50
  great.
• 48:51
  So
• 48:52
  I
• 48:52
  have
• 48:52
  yet
• 48:52
  to
• 48:52
  talk
• 48:53
  to
• 48:53
  anyone
• 48:54
  who's
• 48:55
  told
• 48:55
  me
• 48:55
  that
• 48:55
  they're
• 48:56
  a
• 48:56
  one
• 48:56
  and
• 48:56
  doner.
• 48:57
  It
• 48:57
  is
• 48:58
  possible
• 48:58
  that
• 48:59
  this
• 48:59
  is
• 48:59
  a
• 48:59
  one
• 48:59
  and
• 49:00
  done
• 49:00
  for
• 49:00
  me.
• 49:00
  I
• 49:01
  have
• 49:01
  ideas
• 49:02
  for
• 49:02
  other
• 49:02
  stories.
• 49:03
  Don't
• 49:04
  know
• 49:04
  exactly
• 49:05
  how
• 49:05
  I
• 49:05
  would
• 49:06
  grow
• 49:06
  upon
• 49:06
  this
• 49:07
  one
• 49:07
  book,
• 49:07
  but
• 49:08
  that's
• 49:08
  certainly
• 49:08
  something
• 49:09
  I
• 49:09
  may.
• 49:10
  And
• 49:11
  you
• 49:11
  know
• 49:11
  what,
• 49:11
  just
• 49:11
  so
• 49:12
  you
• 49:12
  know,
• 49:12
  I
• 49:12
  talked
• 49:13
  to
• 49:13
  many
• 49:13
  children's
• 49:14
  book
• 49:14
  authors.
• 49:14
  Like,
• 49:15
  our
• 49:15
  books
• 49:16
  are
• 49:16
  a
• 49:16
  book
• 49:17
  series.
• 49:17
  We've
• 49:17
  written
• 49:18
  38
• 49:18
  books
• 49:19
  in
• 49:19
  our
• 49:19
  book
• 49:19
  series.
• 49:20
  That's
• 49:20
  incredible.
• 49:21
  That's
• 49:21
  so
• 49:21
  cool.
• 49:22
  The
• 49:22
  cost
• 49:22
  of
• 49:22
  producing
• 49:23
  a
• 49:24
  printed
• 49:25
  book
• 49:25
  is
• 49:25
  expensive.
• 49:27
  So
• 49:27
  it's
• 49:27
  going
• 49:27
  to
• 49:28
  take
• 49:28
  a
• 49:28
  while
• 49:28
  or
• 49:28
  I'm
• 49:29
  going
• 49:29
  to
• 49:29
  have
• 49:29
  to
• 49:29
  win
• 49:29
  the
• 49:30
  super
• 49:31
  lotto
• 49:32
  or
• 49:32
  something.
• 49:34
  Yeah,
• 49:35
  exactly.
• 49:35
  So
• 49:36
  I'm
• 49:36
  curious.
• 49:38
  Children's
• 49:39
  book
• 49:39
  authors,
• 49:39
  I
• 49:40
  find
• 49:40
  will
• 49:41
  either
• 49:41
  they'll
• 49:42
  do
• 49:42
  a
• 49:42
  book
• 49:42
  series
• 49:43
  or
• 49:44
  they'll
• 49:45
  do
• 49:45
  one
• 49:46
  offs
• 49:47
  or
• 49:47
  they'll
• 49:47
  do
• 49:47
  a
• 49:47
  combination.
• 49:49
  So
• 49:49
  whatever
• 49:49
  you
• 49:50
  approach,
• 49:50
  you
• 49:50
  take
• 49:51
  is
• 49:52
  the
• 49:52
  right
• 49:52
  approach,
• 49:53
  whatever
• 49:53
  it
• 49:53
  is.
• 49:54
  So
• 49:54
  I'm
• 49:55
  curious,
• 49:55
  can
• 49:55
  you
• 49:56
  share
• 49:56
  some
• 49:56
  insights
• 49:57
  into
• 49:58
  your
• 49:59
  writing,
• 50:00
  like
• 50:00
  your
• 50:00
  development
• 50:01
  as
• 50:01
  a
• 50:02
  children's
• 50:02
  book
• 50:02
  author
• 50:03
  and
• 50:03
  publisher,
• 50:04
  and
• 50:05
  talk
• 50:06
  to
• 50:06
  us
• 50:06
  about
• 50:07
  your
• 50:07
  writing
• 50:08
  process
• 50:08
  also?
• 50:10
  For
• 50:10
  this
• 50:11
  one,
• 50:12
  my
• 50:12
  process
• 50:13
  was
• 50:14
  to
• 50:15
  just
• 50:15
  write
• 50:15
  anything
• 50:16
  that
• 50:16
  came
• 50:16
  to
• 50:17
  mind.
• 50:17
  So
• 50:17
  a
• 50:17
  big
• 50:17
  brainstorming
• 50:18
  session.
• 50:19
  Where
• 50:19
  do
• 50:20
  grownups
• 50:20
  come
• 50:20
  from?
• 50:21
  I
• 50:21
  had
• 50:21
  to
• 50:21
  come
• 50:21
  up
• 50:21
  with
• 50:22
  some
• 50:22
  form
• 50:22
  of
• 50:22
  answers
• 50:23
  to
• 50:23
  those
• 50:23
  questions,
• 50:24
  to
• 50:24
  that
• 50:24
  question.
• 50:25
  And
• 50:26
  so
• 50:26
  anytime
• 50:26
  I
• 50:27
  was
• 50:27
  walking
• 50:27
  around
• 50:27
  and
• 50:28
  I
• 50:28
  thought,
• 50:28
  oh,
• 50:28
  that
• 50:28
  would
• 50:28
  be
• 50:29
  a
• 50:29
  cute
• 50:29
  thing,
• 50:29
  I
• 50:29
  just
• 50:29
  wrote
• 50:30
  it
• 50:30
  down.
• 50:30
  Where
• 50:30
  that
• 50:31
  would
• 50:31
  be
• 50:31
  a
• 50:31
  cute
• 50:31
  thing.
• 50:31
  I
• 50:31
  wrote
• 50:32
  it
• 50:32
  down
• 50:32
  literally
• 50:33
  just
• 50:33
  in
• 50:33
  my
• 50:33
  phone,
• 50:34
  at
• 50:34
  the
• 50:35
  grocery
• 50:35
  store,
• 50:36
  wherever
• 50:36
  I
• 50:36
  was.
• 50:36
  If
• 50:37
  a
• 50:37
  idea
• 50:37
  popped
• 50:38
  up
• 50:38
  to
• 50:38
  me,
• 50:38
  I
• 50:38
  wrote
• 50:39
  it
• 50:39
  in
• 50:39
  my
• 50:39
  phone
• 50:40
  just
• 50:40
  to
• 50:40
  have
• 50:40
  a
• 50:40
  place
• 50:41
  for
• 50:41
  it.
• 50:42
  After
• 50:42
  a
• 50:42
  while,
• 50:43
  I
• 50:43
  compiled
• 50:44
  all
• 50:44
  of
• 50:44
  that
• 50:45
  into
• 50:45
  something
• 50:45
  I
• 50:46
  could
• 50:46
  write
• 50:46
  tangibly.
• 50:47
  I
• 50:47
  like
• 50:48
  to
• 50:48
  have
• 50:48
  a
• 50:48
  pen
• 50:48
  on
• 50:48
  paper
• 50:49
  as
• 50:49
  well.
• 50:49
  So
• 50:50
  I
• 50:50
  wrote
• 50:50
  out
• 50:50
  all
• 50:51
  the
• 50:51
  ideas
• 50:51
  that
• 50:51
  I
• 50:52
  come
• 50:52
  up
• 50:52
  with
• 50:53
  and
• 50:54
  I
• 50:54
  started
• 50:54
  narrowing
• 50:54
  down
• 50:55
  the
• 50:55
  ones
• 50:55
  that
• 50:55
  I
• 50:56
  would
• 50:56
  want
• 50:56
  to
• 50:56
  visually
• 50:57
  see
• 50:57
  as
• 50:57
  well.
• 50:58
  And
• 50:58
  that's
• 50:59
  where
• 50:59
  it
• 50:59
  all
• 50:59
  came
• 50:59
  together
• 51:00
  that
• 51:00
  way.
• 51:01
  I
• 51:01
  love
• 51:01
  an
• 51:01
  outline.
• 51:02
  I
• 51:02
  love
• 51:02
  an
• 51:02
  outline.
• 51:03
  If
• 51:03
  you
• 51:03
  want
• 51:04
  start
• 51:04
  with
• 51:04
  that
• 51:05
  anytime
• 51:05
  you
• 51:05
  can
• 51:06
  just
• 51:06
  write
• 51:07
  the
• 51:07
  basic
• 51:07
  Ideas
• 51:08
  and
• 51:08
  then
• 51:08
  go
• 51:08
  back
• 51:09
  through
• 51:09
  and
• 51:09
  start
• 51:09
  really
• 51:10
  expanding
• 51:10
  on
• 51:11
  all
• 51:11
  of
• 51:11
  that.
• 51:11
  I
• 51:11
  do
• 51:12
  think
• 51:12
  that
• 51:12
  that's
• 51:12
  a
• 51:12
  really
• 51:12
  good
• 51:13
  way
• 51:13
  to
• 51:13
  about
• 51:13
  it.
• 51:14
  Other
• 51:14
  than
• 51:14
  that,
• 51:15
  for
• 51:16
  any
• 51:16
  future
• 51:16
  ideas
• 51:17
  that
• 51:17
  I've
• 51:18
  been
• 51:18
  pondering
• 51:19
  about,
• 51:20
  I
• 51:20
  really
• 51:21
  need
• 51:21
  to
• 51:22
  see
• 51:22
  it
• 51:22
  in
• 51:22
  my
• 51:22
  head
• 51:23
  first.
• 51:23
  So
• 51:23
  the
• 51:23
  next
• 51:24
  idea
• 51:24
  I've
• 51:24
  been
• 51:24
  thinking
• 51:25
  about,
• 51:25
  I
• 51:26
  really
• 51:26
  have
• 51:26
  the
• 51:26
  pictures
• 51:27
  in
• 51:27
  my
• 51:27
  head
• 51:27
  first.
• 51:28
  Which
• 51:28
  is
• 51:28
  again,
• 51:29
  probably
• 51:30
  not
• 51:30
  the
• 51:30
  way
• 51:30
  to
• 51:30
  go
• 51:30
  about
• 51:31
  it,
• 51:31
  but
• 51:31
  it's
• 51:31
  just
• 51:31
  the
• 51:31
  way
• 51:32
  that
• 51:32
  works
• 51:32
  for
• 51:32
  me.
• 51:33
  But
• 51:34
  the
• 51:34
  story
• 51:35
  will
• 51:35
  build
• 51:35
  from
• 51:36
  those
• 51:36
  images.
• 51:37
  Okay,
• 51:38
  it
• 51:38
  sounds
• 51:38
  like
• 51:38
  you
• 51:38
  did
• 51:39
  a
• 51:39
  little
• 51:39
  bit
• 51:40
  research
• 51:40
  besides
• 51:41
  your
• 51:41
  own
• 51:41
  personal
• 51:41
  experience
• 51:42
  when
• 51:43
  you
• 51:43
  wrote
• 51:43
  your
• 51:43
  first
• 51:44
  children's
• 51:44
  book.
• 51:45
  Tell
• 51:46
  us
• 51:46
  a
• 51:46
  little
• 51:46
  bit
• 51:46
  about
• 51:47
  your
• 51:47
  research
• 51:48
  and
• 51:48
  then
• 51:49
  how
• 51:49
  do
• 51:49
  you
• 51:49
  see
• 51:50
  what
• 51:50
  lessons
• 51:51
  did
• 51:51
  you
• 51:51
  learn
• 51:52
  that
• 51:52
  could
• 51:53
  perhaps
• 51:53
  for
• 51:54
  research
• 51:54
  for
• 51:54
  your
• 51:55
  second
• 51:55
  and
• 51:55
  third
• 51:55
  book?
• 51:57
  Add
• 51:57
  to
• 51:58
  that,
• 51:59
  a
• 51:59
  lot
• 51:59
  of
• 52:00
  the
• 52:00
  research
• 52:00
  went
• 52:01
  into
• 52:02
  the
• 52:03
  publishing
• 52:03
  process
• 52:04
  that
• 52:04
  was
• 52:04
  a
• 52:04
  big
• 52:04
  part
• 52:05
  of
• 52:05
  it
• 52:05
  and
• 52:05
  which
• 52:06
  works
• 52:06
  for
• 52:06
  you
• 52:06
  and
• 52:07
  how
• 52:07
  does
• 52:07
  that
• 52:07
  work
• 52:08
  for
• 52:08
  this
• 52:08
  person
• 52:08
  and
• 52:08
  that
• 52:09
  sort
• 52:09
  of
• 52:09
  thing.
• 52:10
  And.
• 52:10
  But
• 52:10
  it
• 52:10
  wasn't
• 52:11
  until
• 52:11
  I
• 52:11
  actually
• 52:11
  started
• 52:12
  doing
• 52:12
  the
• 52:13
  indie
• 52:13
  publishing
• 52:14
  route
• 52:14
  that
• 52:14
  a
• 52:15
  lot
• 52:15
  of
• 52:15
  it
• 52:15
  came
• 52:15
  through.
• 52:16
  So
• 52:16
  the
• 52:17
  research
• 52:17
  came
• 52:18
  to
• 52:19
  how
• 52:19
  to
• 52:19
  do
• 52:19
  a
• 52:20
  copyright,
• 52:20
  and
• 52:21
  then
• 52:21
  it
• 52:21
  became
• 52:21
  the
• 52:22
  experience
• 52:22
  of
• 52:22
  getting
• 52:23
  a
• 52:23
  copyright.
• 52:24
  It
• 52:24
  went
• 52:25
  into
• 52:25
  the
• 52:25
  research
• 52:26
  of
• 52:26
  how
• 52:26
  to
• 52:26
  get
• 52:26
  an
• 52:26
  ISBN
• 52:27
  and
• 52:28
  then
• 52:28
  going
• 52:28
  through
• 52:28
  the
• 52:29
  experience
• 52:29
  of
• 52:29
  doing
• 52:30
  my
• 52:30
  first
• 52:30
  ISBN
• 52:31
  number
• 52:32
  and
• 52:32
  knowing
• 52:33
  that
• 52:34
  if
• 52:34
  I
• 52:34
  do
• 52:34
  decide
• 52:35
  to
• 52:35
  publish
• 52:35
  my
• 52:36
  book
• 52:36
  at
• 52:36
  any
• 52:36
  other
• 52:37
  format,
• 52:37
  I
• 52:37
  then
• 52:38
  have
• 52:38
  to
• 52:38
  get
• 52:38
  more
• 52:38
  ISBNs
• 52:39
  and
• 52:40
  stuff
• 52:40
  like
• 52:40
  that.
• 52:40
  I'm
• 52:41
  trying
• 52:41
  to
• 52:41
  remove
• 52:41
  member
• 52:42
  as
• 52:42
  much
• 52:42
  as
• 52:43
  I
• 52:43
  can,
• 52:43
  but
• 52:43
  I'm
• 52:43
  sure
• 52:44
  I'm
• 52:44
  gonna
• 52:44
  have
• 52:44
  to
• 52:44
  re
• 52:44
  research
• 52:45
  a
• 52:45
  lot
• 52:45
  of
• 52:45
  it
• 52:45
  again.
• 52:46
  Next
• 52:46
  time.
• 52:47
  I'll
• 52:47
  give
• 52:47
  you
• 52:47
  a
• 52:47
  lot
• 52:47
  of
• 52:47
  credit.
• 52:49
  It's
• 52:50
  a
• 52:50
  lot
• 52:50
  of
• 52:50
  hats.
• 52:51
  It
• 52:52
  is
• 52:52
  a
• 52:52
  lot
• 52:52
  of
• 52:52
  hats.
• 52:53
  And
• 52:53
  it's
• 52:54
  something
• 52:54
  that
• 52:54
  once
• 52:55
  you
• 52:55
  start
• 52:55
  doing
• 52:55
  it,
• 52:56
  you
• 52:56
  go,
• 52:56
  oh,
• 52:56
  maybe
• 52:56
  my
• 52:57
  research
• 52:57
  wasn't
• 52:57
  good
• 52:58
  enough,
• 52:58
  unfortunately,
• 52:59
  because
• 52:59
  you
• 53:00
  do
• 53:00
  all
• 53:00
  of
• 53:00
  it
• 53:00
  and
• 53:00
  then
• 53:00
  there's
• 53:01
  a
• 53:01
  random
• 53:01
  question
• 53:01
  that
• 53:02
  you
• 53:02
  don't
• 53:02
  know
• 53:02
  how
• 53:02
  to
• 53:02
  answer
• 53:03
  and
• 53:03
  you
• 53:03
  have
• 53:03
  to
• 53:03
  then
• 53:03
  figure
• 53:04
  it
• 53:04
  out.
• 53:04
  It
• 53:04
  is
• 53:05
  definitely
• 53:05
  a
• 53:05
  process,
• 53:06
  but
• 53:06
  it
• 53:06
  is
• 53:07
  all
• 53:07
  achievable
• 53:08
  items.
• 53:09
  Like,
• 53:09
  it's
• 53:10
  all
• 53:10
  stuff
• 53:10
  that
• 53:10
  if
• 53:10
  you
• 53:10
  take
• 53:11
  it
• 53:11
  a
• 53:11
  step
• 53:11
  at
• 53:11
  a
• 53:11
  time,
• 53:12
  you
• 53:12
  will
• 53:12
  get
• 53:12
  those
• 53:12
  boxes
• 53:13
  checked.
• 53:14
  Absolutely.
• 53:14
  And
• 53:14
  you
• 53:15
  and
• 53:15
  I
• 53:15
  are
• 53:16
  living
• 53:16
  proof,
• 53:17
  right?
• 53:18
  Absolutely.
• 53:18
  Yeah.
• 53:19
  Now.
• 53:19
  And
• 53:19
  I
• 53:19
  did
• 53:19
  for
• 53:20
  things.
• 53:21
  So
• 53:22
  that's
• 53:22
  the
• 53:22
  whole
• 53:22
  thing.
• 53:23
  And
• 53:23
  I'm
• 53:24
  curious
• 53:24
  because
• 53:24
  you've
• 53:24
  been
• 53:25
  so
• 53:25
  open
• 53:26
  with
• 53:26
  your
• 53:26
  whole
• 53:27
  journey,
• 53:28
  I'd
• 53:28
  like
• 53:28
  to
• 53:29
  talk
• 53:29
  to
• 53:29
  you
• 53:29
  about
• 53:30
  your
• 53:31
  success
• 53:32
  measurement.
• 53:32
  So
• 53:32
  I
• 53:32
  know
• 53:33
  we,
• 53:33
  we
• 53:33
  talked
• 53:33
  about
• 53:34
  a
• 53:34
  business
• 53:35
  book
• 53:35
  plan
• 53:36
  and
• 53:36
  that's
• 53:36
  a
• 53:36
  work
• 53:37
  in
• 53:37
  progress.
• 53:38
  Yes.
• 53:39
  I
• 53:39
  want
• 53:39
  to
• 53:39
  delve
• 53:40
  deeper
• 53:40
  into
• 53:40
  your
• 53:41
  original
• 53:41
  goal
• 53:42
  or
• 53:42
  goals
• 53:43
  into
• 53:43
  your
• 53:44
  book
• 53:44
  launch,
• 53:45
  all
• 53:45
  of
• 53:45
  us
• 53:45
  hope
• 53:45
  for
• 53:46
  thousands
• 53:47
  of
• 53:47
  copies
• 53:47
  of
• 53:48
  sales.
• 53:49
  Absolutely.
• 53:51
  To
• 53:51
  measure
• 53:51
  our
• 53:51
  success.
• 53:52
  But
• 53:52
  with
• 53:53
  your
• 53:53
  book,
• 53:55
  talk
• 53:55
  to
• 53:56
  us
• 53:56
  about
• 53:57
  how
• 53:57
  did
• 53:57
  you
• 53:57
  see
• 53:57
  your
• 53:58
  success
• 53:59
  and
• 53:59
  how
• 53:59
  are
• 53:59
  you
• 54:00
  living
• 54:00
  up
• 54:00
  to
• 54:00
  your
• 54:01
  own
• 54:01
  idea
• 54:02
  of
• 54:02
  success.
• 54:04
  I
• 54:04
  did
• 54:05
  have
• 54:05
  those
• 54:05
  hopes,
• 54:06
  but
• 54:06
  I
• 54:07
  am
• 54:07
  also.
• 54:08
  I
• 54:08
  try
• 54:08
  and
• 54:08
  be
• 54:09
  realistic
• 54:09
  about
• 54:09
  things.
• 54:10
  Right.
• 54:10
  So,
• 54:11
  yes,
• 54:11
  I
• 54:11
  hope
• 54:11
  a
• 54:12
  million
• 54:12
  people
• 54:12
  buy
• 54:13
  my
• 54:13
  book
• 54:13
  in
• 54:13
  the
• 54:13
  first
• 54:13
  month.
• 54:14
  That
• 54:14
  would
• 54:14
  be
• 54:14
  great.
• 54:15
  But
• 54:15
  realistically,
• 54:16
  if
• 54:17
  I
• 54:17
  could
• 54:17
  get
• 54:18
  a
• 54:18
  hundred
• 54:18
  books
• 54:18
  in
• 54:19
  my
• 54:19
  belt,
• 54:19
  just
• 54:20
  to
• 54:20
  say
• 54:20
  that
• 54:20
  it's
• 54:21
  been
• 54:21
  done
• 54:21
  and
• 54:22
  that
• 54:22
  is
• 54:22
  a
• 54:23
  box
• 54:23
  check
• 54:23
  would
• 54:23
  be
• 54:24
  wonderful.
• 54:24
  So
• 54:24
  I
• 54:24
  was
• 54:25
  able
• 54:25
  to
• 54:25
  achieve
• 54:25
  that
• 54:25
  within
• 54:26
  the
• 54:26
  first
• 54:26
  two
• 54:26
  months,
• 54:27
  I
• 54:27
  think.
• 54:28
  So
• 54:28
  it's
• 54:28
  been.
• 54:29
  That
• 54:29
  is.
• 54:30
  I
• 54:30
  was
• 54:30
  very
• 54:30
  pleased
• 54:31
  with
• 54:31
  that.
• 54:31
  That
• 54:31
  is
• 54:31
  wonderful
• 54:32
  that
• 54:32
  anybody
• 54:32
  bought
• 54:32
  the
• 54:33
  book.
• 54:33
  So
• 54:33
  the
• 54:33
  fact
• 54:33
  that
• 54:34
  I
• 54:34
  reached
• 54:34
  that
• 54:34
  number
• 54:34
  was
• 54:35
  wonderful.
• 54:35
  But
• 54:36
  as
• 54:36
  far
• 54:36
  as
• 54:37
  what
• 54:37
  I
• 54:37
  hope
• 54:37
  to
• 54:38
  go
• 54:38
  to,
• 54:38
  I'm
• 54:39
  hoping
• 54:39
  to
• 54:40
  get
• 54:40
  somewhere
• 54:41
  between
• 54:41
  20
• 54:42
  to
• 54:42
  50
• 54:43
  sales
• 54:43
  per
• 54:44
  year.
• 54:44
  That's,
• 54:45
  I
• 54:45
  think,
• 54:46
  some
• 54:46
  kind
• 54:46
  of
• 54:46
  achievable
• 54:47
  goal.
• 54:47
  Whether
• 54:48
  that
• 54:48
  sale
• 54:48
  is
• 54:48
  in
• 54:49
  person
• 54:49
  or
• 54:49
  just
• 54:50
  through
• 54:50
  Amazon
• 54:51
  or
• 54:52
  when
• 54:52
  the
• 54:52
  website
• 54:53
  becomes
• 54:53
  a
• 54:53
  thing.
• 54:54
  Perhaps
• 54:54
  that
• 54:54
  could
• 54:55
  produce
• 54:55
  some
• 54:56
  of
• 54:56
  those
• 54:56
  as
• 54:56
  well.
• 54:56
  If
• 54:57
  I
• 54:57
  could
• 54:57
  at
• 54:58
  least
• 54:58
  keep
• 54:58
  some
• 54:59
  sustainable
• 55:00
  number
• 55:00
  going,
• 55:01
  throw
• 55:01
  an
• 55:01
  idea.
• 55:02
  I
• 55:02
  would
• 55:02
  be
• 55:02
  wonderful.
• 55:03
  I
• 55:03
  would
• 55:03
  feel
• 55:04
  wonderful.
• 55:05
  Absolutely.
• 55:05
  Please
• 55:05
  do.
• 55:06
  Okay,
• 55:06
  so
• 55:07
  the
• 55:07
  only
• 55:07
  reason
• 55:07
  I'm
• 55:08
  throwing
• 55:08
  this
• 55:08
  out
• 55:08
  is
• 55:09
  because,
• 55:09
  again,
• 55:09
  it's
• 55:10
  thanks
• 55:10
  to
• 55:11
  previous
• 55:12
  guests
• 55:12
  on
• 55:12
  my
• 55:13
  show.
• 55:13
  And
• 55:14
  some
• 55:14
  of
• 55:14
  them
• 55:14
  are
• 55:16
  helicopter
• 55:16
  pilots,
• 55:17
  they're
• 55:18
  in
• 55:18
  the
• 55:18
  military.
• 55:19
  Some
• 55:20
  of
• 55:20
  them
• 55:20
  have
• 55:20
  go
• 55:20
  to
• 55:20
  a
• 55:21
  conferences,
• 55:22
  and
• 55:22
  some
• 55:23
  of
• 55:23
  the
• 55:23
  sponsors
• 55:24
  buy
• 55:25
  their
• 55:25
  books.
• 55:27
  And
• 55:27
  at
• 55:27
  the
• 55:27
  conference,
• 55:28
  so
• 55:29
  they
• 55:29
  buy
• 55:29
  like
• 55:29
  a
• 55:30
  whole
• 55:30
  bunch
• 55:30
  of
• 55:30
  books,
• 55:31
  and
• 55:31
  then
• 55:31
  they
• 55:31
  ask
• 55:31
  the
• 55:31
  authors
• 55:32
  to
• 55:32
  sit
• 55:32
  down
• 55:33
  and
• 55:33
  sign
• 55:34
  their
• 55:35
  books
• 55:35
  for
• 55:35
  the
• 55:35
  people
• 55:36
  attending
• 55:36
  the
• 55:36
  conference.
• 55:37
  And
• 55:38
  I
• 55:38
  was
• 55:38
  thinking,
• 55:38
  yeah.
• 55:39
  And
• 55:39
  I
• 55:39
  thought,
• 55:40
  wow,
• 55:40
  that's
• 55:40
  a
• 55:40
  great
• 55:41
  idea.
• 55:41
  And
• 55:41
  I
• 55:41
  was
• 55:41
  just
• 55:42
  thinking
• 55:42
  about
• 55:42
  you,
• 55:43
  and
• 55:43
  I
• 55:43
  was
• 55:43
  thinking,
• 55:44
  you
• 55:44
  know
• 55:44
  what?
• 55:45
  There
• 55:45
  are
• 55:45
  so
• 55:46
  many
• 55:46
  of
• 55:46
  these.
• 55:47
  I'm
• 55:47
  on
• 55:47
  Ancestry,
• 55:50
  the
• 55:50
  software
• 55:51
  program
• 55:51
  called
• 55:51
  Ancestry,
• 55:52
  and
• 55:52
  I
• 55:53
  think
• 55:53
  a
• 55:53
  lot
• 55:53
  of
• 55:53
  people
• 55:53
  have
• 55:54
  heard
• 55:54
  of
• 55:54
  that,
• 55:54
  but
• 55:54
  there's
• 55:54
  other
• 55:55
  ones
• 55:55
  out
• 55:55
  there.
• 55:55
  And
• 55:55
  I
• 55:55
  was
• 55:55
  thinking,
• 55:56
  you
• 55:56
  know
• 55:57
  what,
• 55:57
  Alyssa,
• 55:59
  you
• 55:59
  should
• 55:59
  reach
• 56:00
  out
• 56:00
  to
• 56:00
  all
• 56:01
  of
• 56:01
  these.
• 56:01
  You
• 56:02
  can
• 56:02
  Google
• 56:02
  them
• 56:02
  in
• 56:02
  about
• 56:03
  five
• 56:03
  minutes
• 56:04
  and
• 56:04
  then
• 56:04
  find
• 56:05
  out
• 56:05
  if
• 56:05
  they
• 56:05
  have
• 56:05
  conferences
• 56:07
  where
• 56:07
  they
• 56:07
  bring
• 56:08
  their
• 56:08
  people
• 56:08
  together.
• 56:09
  And
• 56:10
  then
• 56:10
  say,
• 56:10
  look
• 56:11
  at,
• 56:11
  would
• 56:11
  you
• 56:12
  buy
• 56:12
  my
• 56:12
  book?
• 56:12
  And
• 56:12
  I'll
• 56:13
  come
• 56:13
  and
• 56:13
  I'll
• 56:13
  sign
• 56:14
  my
• 56:14
  book
• 56:15
  at
• 56:15
  your
• 56:15
  conference.
• 56:15
  That's
• 56:16
  a
• 56:16
  wonderful
• 56:16
  idea.
• 56:17
  I
• 56:18
  sell
• 56:18
  a
• 56:18
  thousand
• 56:18
  books.
• 56:20
  But
• 56:20
  no,
• 56:20
  because
• 56:21
  they're
• 56:21
  trying
• 56:21
  to.
• 56:21
  You
• 56:22
  know
• 56:22
  what?
• 56:22
  Wonderful.
• 56:23
  Guess
• 56:23
  what
• 56:23
  happens
• 56:24
  as
• 56:24
  Ancestry.
• 56:25
  They're
• 56:25
  always
• 56:26
  looking
• 56:26
  for
• 56:26
  new
• 56:27
  clients.
• 56:28
  Some
• 56:29
  of
• 56:29
  their
• 56:29
  clients
• 56:29
  are
• 56:29
  dying
• 56:31
  because
• 56:32
  they're
• 56:32
  getting
• 56:32
  older.
• 56:33
  But
• 56:33
  you
• 56:34
  could
• 56:34
  Start
• 56:35
  with
• 56:35
  the
• 56:36
  cradle.
• 56:37
  Yeah.
• 56:37
  Which
• 56:38
  is
• 56:38
  what
• 56:38
  you're
• 56:38
  doing.
• 56:40
  Think
• 56:40
  about
• 56:40
  it.
• 56:40
  You
• 56:40
  could
• 56:41
  help
• 56:41
  them
• 56:41
  grow
• 56:41
  their
• 56:42
  market.
• 56:43
  That's
• 56:43
  a
• 56:43
  wonderful
• 56:44
  idea.
• 56:44
  I've
• 56:44
  actually
• 56:45
  thought
• 56:45
  about
• 56:45
  it
• 56:45
  as
• 56:45
  a
• 56:46
  good
• 56:46
  connection
• 56:46
  to,
• 56:46
  like,
• 56:47
  people
• 56:47
  that
• 56:47
  like
• 56:47
  Ancestry.com.
• 56:48
  But
• 56:48
  just
• 56:49
  so
• 56:49
  you
• 56:49
  know,
• 56:49
  it's
• 56:50
  working
• 56:50
  because
• 56:51
  I'm
• 56:51
  talking
• 56:51
  to
• 56:52
  actual
• 56:52
  book
• 56:52
  authors
• 56:53
  who
• 56:53
  are
• 56:53
  doing
• 56:53
  that.
• 56:54
  Yeah.
• 56:55
  I
• 56:55
  didn't
• 56:55
  think
• 56:55
  about
• 56:55
  it
• 56:56
  as
• 56:56
  their
• 56:57
  conferences
• 56:57
  as
• 56:58
  a
• 56:58
  way
• 56:58
  to
• 56:58
  get
• 56:58
  in.
• 56:58
  That's
• 56:59
  a
• 56:59
  wonderful
• 56:59
  idea.
• 57:00
  I
• 57:00
  will
• 57:00
  absolutely
• 57:01
  look
• 57:01
  into
• 57:01
  that.
• 57:01
  Thank
• 57:02
  you.
• 57:02
  You're
• 57:02
  welcome.
• 57:03
  You're
• 57:03
  welcome.
• 57:03
  I
• 57:03
  want
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  talk
• 57:04
  to
• 57:04
  you
• 57:04
  about
• 57:04
  the
• 57:05
  rule
• 57:05
  of
• 57:05
  writing.
• 57:06
  So
• 57:06
  can
• 57:06
  you
• 57:07
  tell
• 57:07
  us
• 57:07
  what's
• 57:08
  being
• 57:08
  a
• 57:09
  children's
• 57:09
  book
• 57:09
  author
• 57:10
  now,
• 57:10
  that
• 57:10
  now,
• 57:11
  in
• 57:11
  the
• 57:11
  grand
• 57:11
  scheme
• 57:11
  of
• 57:12
  things,
• 57:12
  you
• 57:12
  now
• 57:12
  are
• 57:13
  a
• 57:13
  published
• 57:13
  children's
• 57:14
  book
• 57:14
  author.
• 57:14
  So
• 57:15
  what
• 57:15
  does
• 57:15
  it
• 57:15
  mean
• 57:15
  to
• 57:15
  you
• 57:16
  now
• 57:16
  versus
• 57:17
  before?
• 57:20
  It
• 57:20
  means
• 57:21
  that
• 57:21
  life
• 57:22
  can
• 57:22
  take
• 57:22
  you
• 57:23
  in
• 57:23
  different
• 57:24
  paths
• 57:24
  that
• 57:24
  you're
• 57:24
  not
• 57:25
  expecting.
• 57:26
  And
• 57:26
  it
• 57:26
  means
• 57:26
  that
• 57:27
  if
• 57:27
  you're
• 57:27
  willing
• 57:27
  to
• 57:28
  go
• 57:28
  with
• 57:28
  the
• 57:28
  flow
• 57:29
  of
• 57:29
  what's
• 57:29
  presented
• 57:30
  to
• 57:30
  you
• 57:30
  and
• 57:30
  the
• 57:30
  ideas
• 57:31
  that
• 57:31
  come
• 57:31
  to
• 57:31
  you
• 57:32
  and
• 57:32
  you're
• 57:32
  willing
• 57:33
  to
• 57:33
  pursue
• 57:33
  that
• 57:33
  creativity,
• 57:34
  that
• 57:34
  you
• 57:35
  can
• 57:35
  actually
• 57:36
  create
• 57:36
  something
• 57:36
  pretty
• 57:37
  cool
• 57:37
  out
• 57:37
  of
• 57:37
  that.
• 57:38
  That's
• 57:38
  what
• 57:38
  it
• 57:38
  means
• 57:38
  to
• 57:39
  me.
• 57:39
  Good
• 57:39
  for
• 57:40
  you.
• 57:40
  Thank
• 57:40
  you.
• 57:41
  It's
• 57:41
  about
• 57:41
  letting
• 57:42
  life
• 57:43
  happen
• 57:43
  and
• 57:44
  then
• 57:44
  being
• 57:45
  able
• 57:45
  to
• 57:45
  say,
• 57:45
  okay,
• 57:46
  no,
• 57:46
  I
• 57:46
  do
• 57:46
  want
• 57:47
  to
• 57:47
  pursue
• 57:47
  this
• 57:48
  action.
• 57:49
  Making
• 57:50
  that
• 57:50
  choice,
• 57:50
  you
• 57:51
  lead
• 57:52
  to
• 57:52
  new
• 57:52
  things,
• 57:52
  which
• 57:53
  is
• 57:53
  pretty
• 57:53
  cool.
• 57:54
  And
• 57:54
  as
• 57:54
  a
• 57:54
  mother
• 57:54
  of
• 57:55
  two
• 57:55
  young
• 57:55
  children
• 57:55
  now
• 57:56
  you've
• 57:56
  got
• 57:56
  one
• 57:57
  that's
• 57:57
  still
• 57:57
  at
• 57:57
  home
• 57:58
  and
• 57:58
  one
• 57:58
  that
• 57:58
  goes
• 57:58
  to
• 57:59
  school.
• 58:00
  So
• 58:00
  I'm
• 58:01
  curious
• 58:01
  on
• 58:01
  how
• 58:02
  is
• 58:02
  writing
• 58:02
  fitting
• 58:03
  into
• 58:03
  your
• 58:03
  life
• 58:04
  now?
• 58:06
  My
• 58:06
  husband
• 58:07
  is
• 58:07
  taking
• 58:07
  care
• 58:07
  of
• 58:08
  the
• 58:08
  kids
• 58:08
  while
• 58:08
  I'm
• 58:08
  on
• 58:08
  a
• 58:09
  podcast,
• 58:09
  so
• 58:09
  that's
• 58:09
  new.
• 58:11
  Excellent.
• 58:12
  Tell
• 58:12
  them.
• 58:13
  Thank
• 58:13
  you.
• 58:14
  I
• 58:14
  will.
• 58:15
  Yeah,
• 58:15
  it's
• 58:16
  great
• 58:16
  because
• 58:16
  I
• 58:17
  get
• 58:17
  to
• 58:17
  share
• 58:17
  my
• 58:18
  love
• 58:18
  of
• 58:18
  the
• 58:18
  books
• 58:19
  with
• 58:19
  my
• 58:19
  kids
• 58:20
  with
• 58:20
  a
• 58:20
  more
• 58:21
  a
• 58:22
  better
• 58:22
  intent
• 58:22
  behind
• 58:23
  it.
• 58:23
  So
• 58:23
  before
• 58:24
  it
• 58:24
  was
• 58:24
  just,
• 58:24
  okay,
• 58:24
  it's
• 58:25
  time
• 58:25
  to
• 58:25
  read
• 58:25
  books,
• 58:25
  but
• 58:26
  now
• 58:26
  it's,
• 58:27
  let's
• 58:27
  experience
• 58:27
  this
• 58:28
  book
• 58:28
  together
• 58:28
  and
• 58:29
  talk
• 58:29
  about
• 58:30
  what
• 58:30
  they're
• 58:30
  experiencing
• 58:31
  in
• 58:31
  the
• 58:31
  story
• 58:32
  and
• 58:32
  stuff
• 58:32
  like
• 58:32
  that.
• 58:33
  So
• 58:33
  it
• 58:33
  just
• 58:33
  adds
• 58:34
  a
• 58:34
  new
• 58:34
  level
• 58:35
  of
• 58:35
  how
• 58:36
  to
• 58:36
  experience
• 58:36
  literature
• 58:37
  with
• 58:37
  your
• 58:37
  children.
• 58:39
  I'm
• 58:39
  curious
• 58:40
  about
• 58:40
  advice
• 58:42
  for
• 58:42
  aspiring
• 58:43
  children's
• 58:43
  book
• 58:44
  authors.
• 58:44
  So
• 58:44
  what
• 58:44
  kind
• 58:45
  of
• 58:45
  advice
• 58:45
  would
• 58:45
  you
• 58:45
  give
• 58:46
  someone
• 58:46
  who
• 58:47
  wants
• 58:47
  to
• 58:47
  be
• 58:48
  a
• 58:48
  children's
• 58:48
  book
• 58:48
  author?
• 58:49
  I
• 58:50
  would
• 58:50
  say
• 58:50
  if
• 58:50
  there's
• 58:51
  somebody
• 58:51
  that
• 58:53
  has
• 58:53
  the
• 58:53
  idea,
• 58:54
  don't
• 58:55
  go,
• 58:55
  ah,
• 58:55
  it's
• 58:56
  a
• 58:56
  delusion
• 58:57
  of
• 58:57
  grandeur
• 58:57
  or
• 58:58
  something
• 58:58
  to
• 58:58
  think
• 58:59
  that.
• 58:59
  And
• 58:59
  it
• 58:59
  is
• 59:00
  unachievable.
• 59:01
  That's
• 59:01
  the
• 59:01
  first
• 59:01
  hurdle.
• 59:02
  It's
• 59:02
  just
• 59:03
  saying,
• 59:03
  oh,
• 59:03
  no,
• 59:03
  I
• 59:03
  am
• 59:04
  capable
• 59:04
  of
• 59:04
  doing
• 59:05
  that.
• 59:05
  So
• 59:05
  that's
• 59:05
  number
• 59:06
  one.
• 59:06
  But
• 59:07
  I
• 59:07
  think
• 59:07
  if
• 59:07
  you
• 59:07
  had
• 59:08
  the
• 59:08
  idea
• 59:08
  and
• 59:08
  you
• 59:09
  start
• 59:09
  writing,
• 59:10
  like,
• 59:10
  just
• 59:11
  let
• 59:11
  it
• 59:12
  happen.
• 59:12
  It's
• 59:13
  somebody
• 59:13
  that.
• 59:14
  I
• 59:14
  forgot
• 59:14
  about
• 59:14
  mine
• 59:15
  for
• 59:15
  a
• 59:15
  while.
• 59:15
  So
• 59:16
  it's
• 59:17
  always
• 59:17
  gonna
• 59:17
  be
• 59:18
  there,
• 59:18
  though.
• 59:18
  So
• 59:19
  you
• 59:19
  can
• 59:19
  always
• 59:19
  go
• 59:19
  back,
• 59:20
  but
• 59:20
  you
• 59:20
  can
• 59:20
  always
• 59:21
  return.
• 59:21
  I
• 59:21
  talked
• 59:22
  to
• 59:22
  a
• 59:22
  children's
• 59:22
  book
• 59:23
  author
• 59:23
  who
• 59:24
  had
• 59:24
  written
• 59:24
  her
• 59:24
  book
• 59:25
  30
• 59:25
  years
• 59:26
  ago.
• 59:26
  It
• 59:26
  took
• 59:26
  her
• 59:26
  30
• 59:27
  years.
• 59:27
  Wow.
• 59:28
  Oh,
• 59:29
  my
• 59:29
  gosh.
• 59:29
  While
• 59:29
  she's
• 59:29
  a
• 59:29
  school
• 59:30
  teacher,
• 59:30
  and
• 59:31
  she
• 59:31
  wrote
• 59:31
  it
• 59:31
  just
• 59:31
  as
• 59:32
  she
• 59:32
  was
• 59:32
  starting
• 59:32
  her
• 59:33
  career.
• 59:33
  And
• 59:34
  then
• 59:34
  when
• 59:34
  she
• 59:34
  retired,
• 59:35
  she
• 59:36
  dug
• 59:36
  up
• 59:36
  her
• 59:36
  yellow
• 59:37
  pad.
• 59:38
  I'm
• 59:38
  not
• 59:38
  sure
• 59:38
  exactly,
• 59:39
  but
• 59:39
  she
• 59:40
  dug
• 59:40
  it
• 59:40
  up
• 59:40
  and
• 59:41
  she
• 59:41
  brought
• 59:41
  it
• 59:41
  to
• 59:41
  life.
• 59:42
  And
• 59:42
  now
• 59:42
  she
• 59:42
  just
• 59:43
  launched
• 59:43
  her
• 59:43
  second
• 59:43
  book.
• 59:44
  That's
• 59:45
  amazing.
• 59:46
  And
• 59:46
  that's
• 59:46
  exactly
• 59:47
  it.
• 59:47
  It
• 59:47
  doesn't
• 59:47
  matter
• 59:48
  when
• 59:48
  or
• 59:48
  how.
• 59:49
  It's
• 59:49
  just
• 59:50
  if
• 59:50
  the
• 59:50
  idea
• 59:50
  keeps
• 59:51
  coming
• 59:51
  back
• 59:51
  to
• 59:51
  you,
• 59:52
  it's
• 59:52
  probably
• 59:53
  for
• 59:53
  a
• 59:53
  reason
• 59:53
  and
• 59:53
  might
• 59:54
  as
• 59:54
  well
• 59:54
  see
• 59:55
  what
• 59:55
  happens.
• 59:56
  Absolutely.
• 59:56
  And
• 59:57
  we've
• 59:57
  been
• 59:57
  talking
• 59:57
  about
• 59:58
  this.
• 59:59
  I'm
• 59:59
  always
• 59:59
  trying
• 1:00:00
  to
• 1:00:00
  help
• 1:00:00
  people,
• 1:00:01
  including
• 1:00:01
  myself,
• 1:00:02
  find
• 1:00:03
  readers.
• 1:00:04
  So
• 1:00:04
  what
• 1:00:05
  encouragement
• 1:00:06
  do
• 1:00:06
  you
• 1:00:06
  have
• 1:00:07
  for
• 1:00:07
  readers?
• 1:00:07
  Why
• 1:00:07
  should
• 1:00:08
  readers
• 1:00:08
  purchase
• 1:00:09
  your
• 1:00:09
  book?
• 1:00:10
  I
• 1:00:10
  think
• 1:00:11
  people
• 1:00:11
  should
• 1:00:11
  buy
• 1:00:11
  my
• 1:00:11
  book
• 1:00:12
  because
• 1:00:12
  it
• 1:00:12
  will
• 1:00:13
  produce
• 1:00:13
  a
• 1:00:14
  conversation
• 1:00:14
  that
• 1:00:15
  you
• 1:00:15
  haven't
• 1:00:15
  had
• 1:00:15
  before.
• 1:00:16
  So
• 1:00:17
  it's
• 1:00:17
  about
• 1:00:17
  your
• 1:00:18
  life
• 1:00:18
  at
• 1:00:19
  the
• 1:00:19
  end.
• 1:00:19
  It's
• 1:00:19
  about
• 1:00:19
  your
• 1:00:20
  family.
• 1:00:20
  It's
• 1:00:20
  about
• 1:00:21
  the
• 1:00:21
  people
• 1:00:21
  that
• 1:00:21
  you're
• 1:00:22
  surrounded
• 1:00:22
  by
• 1:00:23
  and.
• 1:00:24
  But
• 1:00:25
  it's
• 1:00:25
  also
• 1:00:25
  a
• 1:00:25
  way
• 1:00:26
  to
• 1:00:26
  talk
• 1:00:26
  about
• 1:00:26
  other
• 1:00:26
  cultures
• 1:00:27
  and
• 1:00:27
  other
• 1:00:27
  families
• 1:00:28
  and
• 1:00:28
  people.
• 1:00:29
  Students,
• 1:00:30
  especially
• 1:00:31
  little
• 1:00:31
  students,
• 1:00:31
  start
• 1:00:32
  being
• 1:00:32
  exposed
• 1:00:32
  to
• 1:00:33
  things
• 1:00:33
  that
• 1:00:33
  they
• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:33
  seen
• 1:00:34
  before
• 1:00:35
  and
• 1:00:35
  being
• 1:00:35
  able
• 1:00:36
  to
• 1:00:36
  show
• 1:00:36
  how
• 1:00:36
  everybody
• 1:00:37
  has
• 1:00:37
  this
• 1:00:38
  family.
• 1:00:38
  It's
• 1:00:38
  absolutely
• 1:00:39
  worth
• 1:00:39
  the
• 1:00:40
  conversation.
• 1:00:40
  It's
• 1:00:40
  absolutely
• 1:00:41
  way
• 1:00:42
  to
• 1:00:42
  produce
• 1:00:43
  that
• 1:00:43
  conversation
• 1:00:44
  in
• 1:00:44
  a
• 1:00:44
  fun,
• 1:00:45
  simple
• 1:00:46
  way
• 1:00:46
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• 1:00:46
  start
• 1:00:47
  that
• 1:00:47
  you
• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:48
  then
• 1:00:48
  build
• 1:00:48
  on
• 1:00:48
  in
• 1:00:49
  the
• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:49
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• 1:00:50
  with.
• 1:00:50
  Thank
• 1:00:51
  you.
• 1:00:51
  Sharing
• 1:00:51
  that
• 1:00:52
  anytime
• 1:00:52
  people
• 1:00:53
  can
• 1:00:54
  talk
• 1:00:54
  about
• 1:00:54
  their
• 1:00:54
  family
• 1:00:55
  and
• 1:00:55
  where
• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:55
  come
• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:56
  I
• 1:00:56
  think
• 1:00:56
  that
• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:57
  people
• 1:00:57
  closer
• 1:00:57
  and
• 1:00:58
  why
• 1:00:58
  not
• 1:00:58
  have
• 1:00:59
  a
• 1:00:59
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• 1:00:59
  way
• 1:00:59
  to
• 1:00:59
  go.
• 1:01:01
  Absolutely.
• 1:01:02
  I
• 1:01:02
  love
• 1:01:02
  that.
• 1:01:03
  Final
• 1:01:03
  thoughts.
• 1:01:05
  Is
• 1:01:05
  there
• 1:01:06
  anything
• 1:01:06
  that
• 1:01:07
  you
• 1:01:07
  said?
• 1:01:07
  Geez,
• 1:01:07
  I
• 1:01:08
  wish
• 1:01:08
  Rick
• 1:01:08
  would
• 1:01:08
  have
• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:09
  me
• 1:01:09
  that
• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:11
  Oh,
• 1:01:11
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• 1:01:12
  I
• 1:01:12
  don't
• 1:01:13
  know.
• 1:01:13
  I
• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:13
  want
• 1:01:14
  to
• 1:01:14
  ask
• 1:01:14
  you
• 1:01:14
  something
• 1:01:15
  too,
• 1:01:15
  though.
• 1:01:16
  So
• 1:01:16
  let
• 1:01:16
  me
• 1:01:16
  think
• 1:01:16
  about
• 1:01:16
  an
• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
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• 1:01:17
  Then
• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
  have
• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:18
  you.
• 1:01:19
  Okay,
• 1:01:19
  let's
• 1:01:20
  see.
• 1:01:21
  What's
• 1:01:21
  the
• 1:01:21
  question
• 1:01:21
  I
• 1:01:22
  wanted
• 1:01:22
  you
• 1:01:22
  to
• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:22
  me?
• 1:01:23
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• 1:01:23
  guess
• 1:01:24
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• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
  you
• 1:01:25
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• 1:01:25
  ask
• 1:01:25
  me
• 1:01:26
  about
• 1:01:26
  what's
• 1:01:27
  the
• 1:01:28
  new
• 1:01:28
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• 1:01:29
  you
• 1:01:29
  learned
• 1:01:29
  about
• 1:01:29
  your
• 1:01:30
  family?
• 1:01:30
  And
• 1:01:31
  that
• 1:01:31
  would
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:32
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
  you.
• 1:01:33
  You
• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:33
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• 1:01:34
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:35
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:36
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• 1:01:37
  become.
• 1:01:38
  Did
• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:38
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:39
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:40
  Did
• 1:01:40
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• 1:01:41
  Guys,
• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:41
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
  know
• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:43
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• 1:01:43
  through
• 1:01:43
  that
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:44
  I
• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:44
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:45
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:48
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• 1:01:48
  Okay.
• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:50
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:51
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:54
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:56
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:57
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• 1:01:58
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• 1:01:58
  about.
• 1:01:59
  And
• 1:01:59
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• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:00
  there,
• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:00
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• 1:02:01
  up.
• 1:02:02
  Like
• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
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• 1:02:04
  showed
• 1:02:05
  up
• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
  papers
• 1:02:06
  that
• 1:02:07
  his
• 1:02:07
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• 1:02:07
  had
• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:10
  about
• 1:02:10
  some
• 1:02:10
  members
• 1:02:11
  of
• 1:02:11
  their
• 1:02:11
  family.
• 1:02:12
  And
• 1:02:13
  we
• 1:02:13
  learned
• 1:02:13
  all
• 1:02:13
  about
• 1:02:14
  my
• 1:02:14
  great
• 1:02:14
  grandpa
• 1:02:15
  Lou.
• 1:02:15
  Now,
• 1:02:16
  my
• 1:02:16
  dad
• 1:02:16
  had
• 1:02:16
  met
• 1:02:17
  great.
• 1:02:17
  His
• 1:02:17
  grandpa
• 1:02:18
  Lou
• 1:02:19
  a
• 1:02:19
  few
• 1:02:19
  times
• 1:02:20
  and
• 1:02:20
  knew
• 1:02:20
  a
• 1:02:20
  few
• 1:02:20
  stories
• 1:02:21
  about
• 1:02:21
  him.
• 1:02:21
  But
• 1:02:21
  we
• 1:02:21
  started
• 1:02:22
  reading
• 1:02:22
  the
• 1:02:22
  story
• 1:02:23
  that
• 1:02:23
  his
• 1:02:23
  father
• 1:02:24
  had
• 1:02:24
  created
• 1:02:25
  and
• 1:02:25
  we
• 1:02:26
  heard
• 1:02:26
  some
• 1:02:27
  of
• 1:02:27
  these
• 1:02:27
  crazy
• 1:02:27
  stories
• 1:02:28
  about
• 1:02:28
  him.
• 1:02:29
  And
• 1:02:29
  we
• 1:02:29
  just
• 1:02:29
  had
• 1:02:29
  this
• 1:02:29
  wonderful
• 1:02:30
  experience
• 1:02:30
  laughing
• 1:02:31
  together
• 1:02:31
  about
• 1:02:31
  this
• 1:02:32
  man
• 1:02:32
  that
• 1:02:33
  I
• 1:02:33
  had
• 1:02:33
  never
• 1:02:33
  heard
• 1:02:33
  of
• 1:02:34
  my
• 1:02:34
  dad
• 1:02:34
  had
• 1:02:34
  met
• 1:02:34
  a
• 1:02:35
  couple
• 1:02:35
  of
• 1:02:35
  times.
• 1:02:35
  So
• 1:02:36
  great
• 1:02:36
  grandpa
• 1:02:36
  Lou
• 1:02:37
  at
• 1:02:38
  one
• 1:02:38
  point
• 1:02:38
  in
• 1:02:38
  his
• 1:02:39
  life
• 1:02:39
  had
• 1:02:40
  gotten
• 1:02:40
  really
• 1:02:41
  sick.
• 1:02:41
  Right.
• 1:02:41
  He
• 1:02:42
  came
• 1:02:42
  down
• 1:02:42
  with
• 1:02:42
  scarlet
• 1:02:43
  fever.
• 1:02:43
  Oh,
• 1:02:44
  my
• 1:02:44
  God.
• 1:02:44
  And
• 1:02:45
  it
• 1:02:45
  was
• 1:02:46
  awful.
• 1:02:46
  Like,
• 1:02:46
  it
• 1:02:46
  was
• 1:02:47
  a
• 1:02:47
  full
• 1:02:47
  pandemic
• 1:02:47
  in
• 1:02:48
  the
• 1:02:48
  area.
• 1:02:48
  And
• 1:02:49
  she
• 1:02:50
  went
• 1:02:50
  through
• 1:02:50
  this
• 1:02:51
  experience
• 1:02:52
  of
• 1:02:52
  waking
• 1:02:53
  up
• 1:02:53
  in
• 1:02:53
  a
• 1:02:54
  body
• 1:02:54
  bag.
• 1:02:55
  He
• 1:02:55
  woke
• 1:02:55
  up
• 1:02:56
  antibody.
• 1:02:56
  They
• 1:02:56
  thought
• 1:02:57
  he
• 1:02:57
  was
• 1:02:57
  dead.
• 1:02:58
  Whoa.
• 1:03:01
  And
• 1:03:01
  had
• 1:03:01
  to
• 1:03:01
  get
• 1:03:02
  out
• 1:03:02
  and
• 1:03:03
  explain
• 1:03:03
  that
• 1:03:03
  he
• 1:03:03
  had
• 1:03:04
  not
• 1:03:04
  passed
• 1:03:04
  yet.
• 1:03:05
  And
• 1:03:05
  me
• 1:03:05
  and
• 1:03:05
  my
• 1:03:06
  dad
• 1:03:06
  are
• 1:03:06
  reading
• 1:03:06
  this
• 1:03:06
  together
• 1:03:07
  going,
• 1:03:07
  oh,
• 1:03:08
  my
• 1:03:08
  gosh,
• 1:03:09
  what
• 1:03:09
  a
• 1:03:09
  life
• 1:03:10
  he's
• 1:03:10
  had.
• 1:03:10
  And
• 1:03:11
  to
• 1:03:11
  go
• 1:03:11
  through
• 1:03:11
  something
• 1:03:12
  like
• 1:03:12
  that
• 1:03:12
  must
• 1:03:12
  have
• 1:03:12
  been
• 1:03:13
  insane.
• 1:03:13
  And
• 1:03:14
  just.
• 1:03:14
  You
• 1:03:14
  never
• 1:03:14
  know
• 1:03:15
  these
• 1:03:15
  stories
• 1:03:15
  until
• 1:03:16
  somebody
• 1:03:17
  gives
• 1:03:17
  them
• 1:03:17
  to
• 1:03:18
  you.
• 1:03:18
  Right.
• 1:03:18
  So
• 1:03:18
  we
• 1:03:19
  just
• 1:03:19
  have
• 1:03:19
  this
• 1:03:19
  wonderful
• 1:03:20
  experience
• 1:03:21
  learning
• 1:03:21
  about
• 1:03:21
  somebody
• 1:03:22
  from
• 1:03:23
  his
• 1:03:23
  past
• 1:03:24
  especially.
• 1:03:25
  And.
• 1:03:25
  Yeah.
• 1:03:26
  So
• 1:03:26
  really
• 1:03:27
  fun.
• 1:03:27
  Like
• 1:03:28
  crazy
• 1:03:28
  stories
• 1:03:29
  that
• 1:03:29
  we
• 1:03:29
  hadn't
• 1:03:29
  heard
• 1:03:30
  before.
• 1:03:30
  And
• 1:03:30
  it's
• 1:03:31
  just
• 1:03:31
  a
• 1:03:31
  cool
• 1:03:31
  way
• 1:03:31
  to.
• 1:03:32
  To
• 1:03:33
  become
• 1:03:33
  connected
• 1:03:34
  to
• 1:03:34
  a
• 1:03:34
  history.
• 1:03:35
  Right.
• 1:03:36
  So
• 1:03:36
  that
• 1:03:36
  was
• 1:03:37
  really
• 1:03:37
  fun.
• 1:03:38
  So
• 1:03:39
  I
• 1:03:39
  will
• 1:03:39
  share
• 1:03:39
  ours.
• 1:03:40
  Yeah,
• 1:03:40
  it's.
• 1:03:41
  I'll
• 1:03:41
  share
• 1:03:41
  what
• 1:03:41
  I
• 1:03:42
  thought
• 1:03:42
  blew
• 1:03:43
  my
• 1:03:43
  mind.
• 1:03:44
  I'm
• 1:03:44
  Canadian.
• 1:03:45
  I
• 1:03:45
  live
• 1:03:45
  in
• 1:03:46
  Western
• 1:03:46
  Canada,
• 1:03:47
  and
• 1:03:48
  my
• 1:03:49
  illustrator's
• 1:03:49
  Canadian
• 1:03:50
  too.
• 1:03:50
  That's
• 1:03:51
  great.
• 1:03:51
  There
• 1:03:51
  you
• 1:03:52
  go.
• 1:03:53
  And
• 1:03:54
  what
• 1:03:54
  I
• 1:03:54
  found
• 1:03:54
  out,
• 1:03:55
  and
• 1:03:55
  it
• 1:03:55
  was
• 1:03:55
  actually
• 1:03:56
  through
• 1:03:57
  some
• 1:03:57
  American
• 1:03:58
  friends
• 1:03:58
  of
• 1:03:58
  mine
• 1:03:58
  who
• 1:03:58
  live
• 1:03:59
  in
• 1:03:59
  Portland,
• 1:03:59
  Oregon.
• 1:04:01
  I
• 1:04:01
  was
• 1:04:01
  telling
• 1:04:01
  them
• 1:04:02
  about
• 1:04:02
  this
• 1:04:03
  story.
• 1:04:04
  And
• 1:04:05
  the
• 1:04:05
  story
• 1:04:05
  is
• 1:04:06
  that
• 1:04:06
  my
• 1:04:06
  family
• 1:04:07
  at
• 1:04:07
  one
• 1:04:08
  time
• 1:04:08
  owned
• 1:04:09
  the
• 1:04:09
  land
• 1:04:09
  that
• 1:04:10
  the
• 1:04:10
  Twin
• 1:04:10
  towers
• 1:04:11
  were
• 1:04:11
  on.
• 1:04:13
  Whoa.
• 1:04:14
  Yeah.
• 1:04:15
  So
• 1:04:16
  that's.
• 1:04:17
  Someday
• 1:04:18
  I'll
• 1:04:18
  go
• 1:04:18
  to
• 1:04:18
  New
• 1:04:18
  York
• 1:04:19
  and
• 1:04:19
  I'll
• 1:04:19
  do
• 1:04:20
  the
• 1:04:20
  complete
• 1:04:21
  research.
• 1:04:22
  But
• 1:04:23
  they
• 1:04:23
  are
• 1:04:23
  the
• 1:04:23
  property
• 1:04:24
  in
• 1:04:24
  the
• 1:04:24
  1700s.
• 1:04:26
  No,
• 1:04:27
  before.
• 1:04:27
  And
• 1:04:27
  that
• 1:04:28
  will
• 1:04:28
  totally
• 1:04:28
  create
• 1:04:29
  a
• 1:04:29
  new
• 1:04:29
  connection
• 1:04:30
  to
• 1:04:30
  that
• 1:04:30
  space
• 1:04:31
  for
• 1:04:31
  you.
• 1:04:31
  That's
• 1:04:32
  how
• 1:04:32
  cool.
• 1:04:32
  Like
• 1:04:32
  ancestry
• 1:04:33
  and
• 1:04:33
  history.
• 1:04:34
  Because
• 1:04:34
  it
• 1:04:34
  is.
• 1:04:35
  Because
• 1:04:35
  adds
• 1:04:36
  a
• 1:04:36
  new
• 1:04:36
  level.
• 1:04:36
  That's
• 1:04:37
  so
• 1:04:37
  cool.
• 1:04:37
  Absolutely.
• 1:04:38
  Because
• 1:04:38
  it
• 1:04:39
  happened
• 1:04:39
  before
• 1:04:40
  the
• 1:04:40
  United
• 1:04:40
  States
• 1:04:40
  was
• 1:04:41
  the
• 1:04:41
  United
• 1:04:41
  States
• 1:04:41
  States.
• 1:04:42
  And
• 1:04:42
  then
• 1:04:43
  I
• 1:04:43
  found
• 1:04:43
  out
• 1:04:43
  about
• 1:04:44
  when
• 1:04:44
  the
• 1:04:44
  United
• 1:04:45
  States
• 1:04:45
  became
• 1:04:46
  a
• 1:04:46
  country,
• 1:04:47
  how
• 1:04:47
  people
• 1:04:48
  had
• 1:04:48
  to
• 1:04:48
  swear
• 1:04:48
  allegiances
• 1:04:49
  who
• 1:04:49
  were
• 1:04:50
  born
• 1:04:50
  in
• 1:04:50
  the
• 1:04:50
  country
• 1:04:51
  of
• 1:04:51
  the
• 1:04:51
  United
• 1:04:52
  States,
• 1:04:52
  but
• 1:04:53
  they
• 1:04:53
  weren't
• 1:04:53
  Americans.
• 1:04:55
  They
• 1:04:55
  had
• 1:04:56
  to
• 1:04:56
  actually
• 1:04:56
  as
• 1:04:56
  soon
• 1:04:57
  as
• 1:04:57
  the
• 1:04:57
  America
• 1:04:58
  became
• 1:04:58
  a
• 1:04:59
  country,
• 1:04:59
  they
• 1:05:00
  had
• 1:05:00
  to
• 1:05:00
  swear
• 1:05:00
  allegiance
• 1:05:01
  to
• 1:05:01
  that
• 1:05:02
  country
• 1:05:02
  that
• 1:05:02
  they
• 1:05:02
  were
• 1:05:02
  born
• 1:05:03
  in
• 1:05:04
  because
• 1:05:05
  at
• 1:05:05
  the
• 1:05:05
  time
• 1:05:05
  they
• 1:05:05
  were
• 1:05:06
  born
• 1:05:06
  there,
• 1:05:06
  it
• 1:05:06
  wasn't
• 1:05:07
  a
• 1:05:07
  country.
• 1:05:08
  That
• 1:05:08
  is
• 1:05:09
  so
• 1:05:09
  crazy.
• 1:05:10
  That
• 1:05:11
  is
• 1:05:11
  such
• 1:05:11
  a
• 1:05:11
  cool
• 1:05:12
  thing
• 1:05:12
  to
• 1:05:12
  learn
• 1:05:12
  about
• 1:05:13
  your
• 1:05:13
  own
• 1:05:13
  family.
• 1:05:13
  That's
• 1:05:14
  incredible.
• 1:05:14
  Yeah,
• 1:05:15
  we
• 1:05:15
  could
• 1:05:15
  have
• 1:05:15
  a
• 1:05:15
  whole
• 1:05:15
  show
• 1:05:15
  on
• 1:05:16
  that.
• 1:05:18
  Next
• 1:05:18
  time.
• 1:05:19
  Absolutely.
• 1:05:20
  You
• 1:05:21
  know
• 1:05:21
  what,
• 1:05:21
  Alyssa,
• 1:05:22
  thank
• 1:05:22
  you
• 1:05:22
  so
• 1:05:22
  much
• 1:05:23
  for
• 1:05:23
  being
• 1:05:23
  a
• 1:05:23
  guest
• 1:05:24
  on
• 1:05:24
  the
• 1:05:25
  Adventures
• 1:05:25
  in
• 1:05:25
  the
• 1:05:26
  Heart
• 1:05:26
  of
• 1:05:26
  Children's
• 1:05:26
  Book
• 1:05:27
  Authors.
• 1:05:27
  Your
• 1:05:27
  generosity
• 1:05:28
  of
• 1:05:28
  time
• 1:05:29
  and
• 1:05:29
  your
• 1:05:29
  insights,
• 1:05:30
  like
• 1:05:30
  the
• 1:05:30
  learning
• 1:05:31
  that
• 1:05:31
  went
• 1:05:31
  on
• 1:05:32
  here
• 1:05:32
  will
• 1:05:32
  definitely
• 1:05:34
  benefit
• 1:05:34
  aspiring
• 1:05:35
  children's
• 1:05:35
  book
• 1:05:35
  authors
• 1:05:36
  and
• 1:05:36
  readers.
• 1:05:37
  So
• 1:05:37
  again,
• 1:05:37
  I
• 1:05:38
  thank
• 1:05:38
  you.
• 1:05:38
  Thank
• 1:05:38
  you
• 1:05:39
  so
• 1:05:39
  much.
• 1:05:39
  Oh,
• 1:05:39
  you're
• 1:05:40
  more
• 1:05:40
  than
• 1:05:40
  welcome.