Latest / Into the Channel ⚽️ A Podcast Primarily About Women's Football / Predicting 2027 USWNT World Cup Roster
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- 0:05OK, welcome to Into the Channel podcast primarily about women's
- 0:10football. I'm your host, Dean of De
- 0:11Suspicious and as always, I'm joined by my Co host Mr. Grant
- 0:15Angle. What is up man?
- 0:18I'm feeling fantastic, buddy. Another international window in
- 0:21the books. Another successful international
- 0:23window in the books. And now let's do what 2 dudes
- 0:28who talk about sports and the microphones do best.
- 0:31Just start predicting things that are way off in the future.
- 0:35Yeah, and also naming some players.
- 0:37Can we let's combine both of those.
- 0:39I mean, what, what, what what better way to to spend a Friday
- 0:42Eve? Yeah, I think, I think you hit
- 0:45it a an international window with some a good amount of
- 0:49intrigue. Like they took us on a little
- 0:52bit of a roller coaster. We learned some stuff.
- 0:55I think, you know, all of these international windows kind of
- 0:58have their own like little mini narrative.
- 1:00This was a fun one, you know, OK, US, you know, kind of gets,
- 1:03gets gets beat at home. A little bit of disarray gives
- 1:07them a hazy chance to kind of like resettle.
- 1:09And, you know, it's like almost like one step back, 2 steps
- 1:12forward kind of situation, almost literally.
- 1:15And yeah, let's have. I wanted to have some fun making
- 1:18some predictions for that 2027 World Cup.
- 1:22I like it. I mean, I want to consider it
- 1:24half predictions, half what I would like to see if we're
- 1:29really going to talk about the roster.
- 1:31But I mean, are those actually one in the same?
- 1:33Because I always would like to see my predictions come true.
- 1:36So maybe I'm just talking about the same thing.
- 1:39I like it. Yeah.
- 1:40We'll speak our predictions into the existence that we want to be
- 1:43a part of, I think. Well, we can settle on that.
- 1:47All right man, Where do you want to get started?
- 1:50Let's at least get started with what happened.
- 1:53I mean, everybody's seen it by now, but USA 6 New Zealand Nil.
- 2:00That was a real ass kicking. I mean, not sure how much we
- 2:05learned. Well, let me start off with what
- 2:08we with what we learned. I I was very excited to see well
- 2:12atmospheres. She can score goals.
- 2:13I think we learned that that was that was confirmed.
- 2:16I thought this one was a big a big game for Kat Macario.
- 2:21You know, we've been talking about her Shaquille O'Neal
- 2:23level, like hold up play, her physicality.
- 2:26It was nice to see you kind of banging a couple goals, you
- 2:29know, you know, also kind of like leaning way into that, you
- 2:34know, that, that DNA or that, that, that persona within that
- 2:37that attack. I think that I think you're
- 2:40absolutely right. I cannot remember the person off
- 2:42the top of my head. I I owe them a response who
- 2:45commented on one of our recent videos that we weren't talking
- 2:48much about Macario and she and you know, she's an excellent
- 2:52player. Clearly Emma Hayes likes the way
- 2:55she plays. You know, we talked about her,
- 2:57her hold up play, but she on the ball, she is exceptionally
- 3:01skilled also and she can kind of RIP a shot out of nowhere and
- 3:04has that in her game. I mean, she she is an excellent
- 3:07player, came back from a devastating injury.
- 3:10Feels like she's kind of worked her way all the way back in.
- 3:13And who knows, maybe she might end up on one of our starting
- 3:17elevens or on the prediction we have for the 2027 World Cup.
- 3:23She just might. Little spoiler alert.
- 3:25All right, so we were going to predict all 23 spots.
- 3:28I think we should go back to front.
- 3:30You know, defence wins championships.
- 3:31So we'll start with the goalkeepers.
- 3:34I'm not sure how you want to do this format.
- 3:36I mean, I think we're expecting 3 goalkeepers and that's
- 3:38probably pretty much the standard.
- 3:40So I will just, I'll kick things off because I went on record
- 3:45couple weeks back saying that I thought Fallon, Telus, Joyce,
- 3:48PTJ had kind of carved out that you know #1 goalkeeper position.
- 3:55You know, based on how she's been playing for Manchester
- 3:57United, based on, you know, the, the performance that we saw in
- 4:00the first match up and just kind of what we've seen thus far and
- 4:03her play style. I think she's a great fit for
- 4:05Mahia. So I think I think she's
- 4:08probably a good bet to make that 27 roster.
- 4:13And I think probably the the the player that I think holds the
- 4:16number one spot goalkeeper wise. I think something very strange
- 4:20would have to happen for her to not at least make the roster.
- 4:24I think it's still really competitive for who is the
- 4:27number one goalkeeper. So I think this might well let
- 4:31me ask the question first. When you penciled in your
- 4:33starting eleven. First match USA plays at the
- 4:362027 World Cup. Is PTJ your starting goalkeeper?
- 4:41I think, yeah, I think at this point, yeah.
- 4:44All right, we have our first Divergent.
- 4:46I am going to go with Claudia Dickey.
- 4:49I think she is. I think she is slightly better
- 4:51with the ball at her feet. I think she plays a little more
- 4:53comfortably in the build up play.
- 4:56She'll be 27 years old and in 2027 PTJ will be 31.
- 5:02Not a gigantic difference there, but I'm very interested to see
- 5:05what like peak athleticism, that convergence of peak athleticism
- 5:10and peak like experience and intelligence looks like for
- 5:13Claudia Dickey, who's already arguably one of the best
- 5:16goalkeepers in the NWSL. Yeah, no argument there.
- 5:21I mean, Dicky's playing great and came up big in a couple
- 5:24spots against New Zealand as well.
- 5:28So I I love that pick. She was one of my 3 goalkeeper.
- 5:30So obviously we're we're in conjunction there.
- 5:33I think we've got the same top two.
- 5:35Do you have a third goalkeeper you want to shout out?
- 5:38I do. I think it's got to be Mandy
- 5:39McGlynn. I think she's a great shot
- 5:42stopper. She sure as hell gets a lot of
- 5:43practice at Utah Royals. I don't know if that's going to
- 5:46keep going as the next couple seasons play out, but she'll be
- 5:5128 at the time of the World Cup. And you know, obviously a NWSL
- 5:56championship winner with Gotham FCA couple years back, great
- 5:59shot stopping ability. You know, I, I think as as much
- 6:04as I like Casey Murphy and Jane Campbell, it feels like it we
- 6:10might be at the end of their time with the national team.
- 6:14Yeah, I could definitely see that.
- 6:16And yeah, I think McGlynn, somebody who I had in my third
- 6:19spot, in my 4th spot, I just want to give a quick shout out,
- 6:22Jordan Silkowitz, who I think has gotten so I think under 23
- 6:26attention and and maybe could be tracking towards something.
- 6:30You just look at the stats, though, McGlynn probably has
- 6:33Jordan beat in most of the key categories except for
- 6:37appearances on the Into the Channel podcast.
- 6:39So that that sort of tips it back the other way.
- 6:41Could be a toss up. Still two years.
- 6:43We'll see what happens there, but it sounds like we're pretty
- 6:45much in lockstep with our three goalkeepers.
- 6:47Let's scoot ahead to that back line.
- 6:51How do you want to tackle this one?
- 6:52Actually? Can we drink a beer?
- 6:54Yeah. I was going to say I'm I'm
- 6:56feeling parched. Let's do this trick or treating
- 7:05is good. Nicely done.
- 7:09Cheers to you. Cheers to the football.
- 7:11I'd like to give an additional cheers if I may.
- 7:15Let's go. I would like to also cheer Angel
- 7:19City Football Club captain Sarah Gordon and Angel City Football
- 7:24Club vice captain Angelina Anderson.
- 7:27Thank you both. For everything that you're
- 7:29doing. Here, here cosign.
- 7:32Hard cosign, yeah, the tricky week for the end of the SL.
- 7:38But I think, you know, as always, I like to believe that,
- 7:42you know, good wins in the end. So I think hopefully we're we're
- 7:46trending in that direction. Let's talk about.
- 7:50It doesn't feel like it, buddy, but yeah, you know.
- 7:54We can't, we can't let that. We can't let that be be the
- 7:56vibes, though, those will not be the vibes.
- 7:58You know, we're going to keep it positive.
- 8:00We're we're building a roster here for 27.
- 8:05You know, what are we going to do?
- 8:06All right, let's go. This the defend, the defense.
- 8:12I mean, this is where things got really tricky.
- 8:14Hold on. Let me let me see whatever I
- 8:16came up with. So I, I landed on 6 defenders,
- 8:20my shortlist 789101112131415. I had 16 on my shortlist.
- 8:26These all kind of these are all players that have kind of, I
- 8:30think have all played over the last couple years. 4 Emma, he
- 8:36is, you know, defensively. So I think that this is going to
- 8:40be really tricky. I'm I'm very interested to hear
- 8:42where you landed. Do you want to just go through
- 8:44your starters left to right and then I'll go through my 4?
- 8:48Yeah, totally fair. You will not be surprised to
- 8:52learn that my starting 11 is a 4231.
- 8:55So let's get that out of the way.
- 8:57So my my 4 defenders starting from the left.
- 9:00Lily Reel, Naomi Germa, Jordan Bugg, Emily Fox.
- 9:07Wow, so you got really real starting.
- 9:09Yes, I do. Who, buddy?
- 9:13OK, what do you have? Starting in left back.
- 9:19Avery Patterson. OK, sure.
- 9:22So I got Patterson, Germa, Jordan, Bug, Emily Fox.
- 9:31OK. Yeah, excellent.
- 9:32Yeah, so those are those are my 4.
- 9:36So where so where did where did we differ?
- 9:37So Lily reel, you've got her starting.
- 9:40That's that's big time. I really love, you know, I
- 9:43almost included Lily reel didn't make my 23, but almost been my
- 9:4823, almost been my 23 kind of like as like a utility defender
- 9:53kind of midfield, you know, kind of like play in different spots
- 9:56and just cover a ton of real estate.
- 9:59So was super close, but the other two defenders that that
- 10:03made my list to get me to 6 Emily Sam's and Tara McKeown.
- 10:09Love it. Let's do AI guess.
- 10:12I mean you team me up for this. I have Emily Sam's as one of the
- 10:16three reserves. She just missed it for me.
- 10:19I was trying to figure out a way.
- 10:22I ended up naming 7 defenders. I did the seven defenders, 7
- 10:26midfielders, 6 attackers model and so players who I had who
- 10:32were not starters, I obviously I have Avery Patterson, I have
- 10:36Tara McKeon and then I have Emily Sonnet.
- 10:40OK, so you've got Sonnet and Lily Reel and I've got Emily.
- 10:44Sam's. Those are our divergences.
- 10:47I thought Sam's. So it's been it's interesting,
- 10:51you know, obviously she had such a monster season last year at
- 10:53centre back. This year spends a little bit
- 10:56more time at right back and kind of moving around that Orlando
- 10:59backline just hasn't looked the same.
- 11:01But I thought it was kind of telling that Emma Hayes had
- 11:05Emily Samms kind of logging a lot of minutes at right back
- 11:08because you know, that she could play center back so that you
- 11:11like that's an option. And now if she could really be
- 11:14effective at right back and she kind of like dinged a pass and
- 11:18you know, like a really, she had a really ugly miss very early in
- 11:20the match, but then was involved in a couple different goals.
- 11:23I'm not sure if she got credit with the assist but.
- 11:26She had at least one assist. Yeah, she had at least one and
- 11:29was the last probably USA player to touch the ball before, you
- 11:33know, 222 different goals. So at least was involved in the
- 11:37build up, not not something we saw a ton of last year for the
- 11:40pride. So I think that's Emma Hayes
- 11:42kind of figuring out, OK, if this player can log real minutes
- 11:47at right back, log real minutes at centre back, that's really
- 11:50valuable. You know, So I think that that
- 11:53kind of like led me down the path of, OK, this might be Emma.
- 11:56He's looking for a solution there.
- 12:00Emily Sana was a tough one to leave out.
- 12:02That was really hard. I was like, Oh my God.
- 12:04But I just think, you know, the physical demands of like kind of
- 12:10like what it's going to look like in 27, you know, just think
- 12:13about that Brazil team going to Brazil.
- 12:15It's we're going to require like a level of like, I think
- 12:19athleticism that just is going to make it tough for Sonnet, I
- 12:23think. I think that's fair.
- 12:25I mean, that's who I was between because Emily Sonnet is going to
- 12:28be 33 during the World Cup and I was between her and Sam's and
- 12:31Emily Sam's is going to be 28 during that World Cup.
- 12:34And as I was filling out my roster, maybe another little
- 12:37mini, mini spoiler alert is that I was kind of looking at the
- 12:40players on my team. I was like, I got to have
- 12:42somebody with like a ton of experience on this, on this 23
- 12:47and I just, you know, the way, just the way the other players
- 12:50look at Emily Sonnet on the field and off.
- 12:53I was just like, OK, I think she should probably be the tallest
- 12:57person, if you will. Yeah, no, I mean, I too Sal
- 13:01Famer for a reason. You don't know what time it is.
- 13:03As part of my reserves, I had 18 year old Trinity Armstrong
- 13:07because I think she's a beast and you know, she kind of has a
- 13:11nose for goal. And then defensively, I mean, I
- 13:14just continue to be impressed by having a player that 18 that you
- 13:18could just kind of go from a back four to back three because
- 13:20they're kind of so physically dominant, can cover so much
- 13:25ground. I think that's a player that can
- 13:28really, really grow into, I don't know, like almost like a
- 13:30player that you might have to take, you know, to Brazil in 27.
- 13:34So I had her, I had her notched as as one of my reserves.
- 13:38That's a great call. I mean, and this is the fun part
- 13:41of doing this exercise right now is that we kind of have to spin
- 13:44it forward and think about like, well, what are the next two
- 13:46seasons going to look like for these players?
- 13:48What are the next, you know, several international windows
- 13:50going to look like and Trinity Armstrong's 100% going to be in
- 13:54the mix. I'll name a couple other
- 13:56defenders here quickly. EV Gatino was on my list.
- 13:59She'll be 24. Like, how much more playing time
- 14:02is she going to get for Perry's on German over the over the next
- 14:05couple years that she can get more Champions League
- 14:06experience? Carrie Abello will be 28 during
- 14:09this World Cup. We've already seen Emma Hayes
- 14:11give her a look. We like her passing ability.
- 14:13We like the way she was in the last window.
- 14:16Maybe it was the window before Abello's ability to kind of move
- 14:19up and down the pitch that sometimes you don't see as much
- 14:23at Orlando. And he was another player who
- 14:26was right there in that mix with Sonnet and Sam's.
- 14:29And I think this kind of speaks and, you know, we'll see what
- 14:32happens. And it far be it from me to
- 14:35count this player out. Tierna Davidson will be 29 years
- 14:39old in this world in that World Cup year, and she was a dynamite
- 14:43center back pairing with Naomi Germa obviously suffers the ACL
- 14:47injury. I believe the ACL injury, I know
- 14:50I'm going to get this backwards, but I think the ACL injury this
- 14:53year was in her right knee and her ACL injury in 2022 was in
- 14:59her left knee. I might have those.
- 15:02I might have those mixed up. You know, there is a cruelty to
- 15:06sports where, you know, old school sports writers and
- 15:11sportscasters would say like, well, you shouldn't lose your
- 15:13job due to injury. And then you, you see these kind
- 15:16of situations out in like the NFL and I'm, I'm just for the
- 15:21record, Tina Davidson's a way better player than Alex Smith
- 15:23was. But Alex Smith gets hurt.
- 15:25Colin Kaepernick steps in and people are like, OK, like this
- 15:29guy, this works. This player actually really
- 15:31works. And so I'll be, I'll just be
- 15:34really interested to see how Tierna Davidson comes back from
- 15:36the ACLI. Just I didn't want to do this
- 15:39show without mentioning her because I thought she was
- 15:41fantastic in the Olympics. And you know, she's been great,
- 15:44you know, in the NWSL as well. Yeah, no doubt.
- 15:48That's a great call out. I mean, there's a bunch of
- 15:51players that I think could, could, you know, I mean, Tierna
- 15:54Davidson's a great one because the chemistry with Germa was so
- 15:58on point. I mean, I think once you put,
- 16:00once you put the Jordan bug Germa, you know, paring in my
- 16:03head, I think I couldn't, it was hard for me to get that out of
- 16:05my head. And the reality is bug looks
- 16:07great, man. Like I think I, I took this in
- 16:10my notes, take it on a little bit of a, like a like a detour
- 16:14here. But I, I kind of have this
- 16:16theory that there's two kinds of players.
- 16:18You know, there's, there's the Peyton Manning and then there's
- 16:21the Brett Favre. The Peyton Manning is like the
- 16:24headier player, you know, like the, the, the thinky computer
- 16:28machine type player. And then the Brett Favre is like
- 16:31the instinctive just, you know, throw the ball 60 yards and then
- 16:35think later, you know, like, so it's just the, the, the kind of
- 16:38inverse. And then you have players like
- 16:39Messi that are just both they're the supercomputer and then also
- 16:43instinctively they're just better at that also than
- 16:46everybody else. And I think Jordan Bugg is like
- 16:49her instincts, like, you know, Lily Johannes has some of this
- 16:51too. Like they just don't have to
- 16:53think. It's just the autopilot.
- 16:56They're just swiveling and turning and look at their they
- 16:58just, their body just knows what to do, where to go.
- 17:01And then like, I think, think about a player like Emily Samms.
- 17:04I've spoken to Emily Samms a few times and like, she's clearly
- 17:06the, the Peyton Manning type. She's clearly a cruncher, a
- 17:10machine, you know, a thinker, you know, and like, you can see
- 17:12it a little bit in her play. I think, you know, kind of like
- 17:15the weight of the the US shirt a little bit heavy, but I loved in
- 17:19the New Zealand match kind of her kind of settled into that.
- 17:21But yeah, I think back to Bug, Bug is just super instinctive
- 17:25and a player that I think is going to like just coast righted
- 17:30right into that role and like really fit next to Germa.
- 17:35And then I think we're going to see the chemistry even just kind
- 17:38of kind of take off from there potentially.
- 17:40The more players you have in your 11 who can just give you
- 17:44that sense of calm, just every like, I got the ball, I'm gonna
- 17:48take a step back. I'm gonna turn and play it to
- 17:50the keeper or I'm gonna turn and play it to the wing.
- 17:53And I'm just gonna create some space.
- 17:55Like the more of those players you have, the the better you're
- 18:00going to fare. Certainly against a team like
- 18:02Spain who might try to press, who will try to press you or
- 18:06just to even like the European competition that you're going to
- 18:08play against. And sometimes even like a
- 18:10barnstorming team like like Brazil, where sometimes it's
- 18:14like, hey, we need to make sure that we calmly move the ball
- 18:17around a little bit to get them to back off and then hit one of
- 18:20our release valves. Yeah, no doubt it's going to be
- 18:26interesting to see the the tactics that get employed too.
- 18:28And I think a lot of it, I mean, that's the kind of like the, the
- 18:31mental game we have to play too is like, what do we expect, you
- 18:34know, then like what players do we expect will fit that style?
- 18:38But the shift gears talk about the midfield.
- 18:41I had 12345, I had seven players in my midfield.
- 18:44Again, only 6 defenders. Sounds like you also had seven
- 18:47in the midfield. I did.
- 18:50All right. We talked about our 4231.
- 18:52Do we want to start with the two?
- 18:53Do we know the two? I think we know.
- 18:55I mean, I don't know. We kick us off here.
- 18:58I mean, you know, I know the two I'm going with.
- 19:02I'm going with Claire Hutton and Lily Johannes.
- 19:05Let's go check, check. Same for you.
- 19:09Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I think they're the double
- 19:12pivot pairing of the future. I know you know, Johannes can
- 19:17also thrive and does thrive and kind of like that box to box
- 19:20midfielder role like as a #8. But I think if you're going to
- 19:24play a 4231, she's just a natural fit there who can still
- 19:29get forward and create, you know, havoc in the attack.
- 19:35But when she's kind of back there surveying the field, you
- 19:38just see there is a chemistry she has with Michelle Cooper of
- 19:43just, oh, there you are. I'm playing, I'm playing you
- 19:45wide open and you're running wide open.
- 19:47And she can do the same thing with Alyssa Thompson.
- 19:49So I just there's there's just no way Hutton in Johannes.
- 19:53We're we're not going to be my my starting holding midfielders.
- 19:58I have AI have a little notes column and with with my names
- 20:01and my the two notes for those two players, which were also the
- 20:05first two at my midfield sharpieed sharpie.
- 20:08Those are the notes. That's it.
- 20:10Not today for those two players. I'll give you my next two.
- 20:15I think I've got to go with Sam Coffey just because obviously
- 20:21you you mentioned Sonnet in terms of like your veteran
- 20:24leadership presence. I think for me, Sam Coffey's
- 20:27probably going to be one of the most senior players that I have
- 20:29in my 23 by that point once we get there.
- 20:32And I think she's just one of the types of players that you'll
- 20:36have to pry this jersey from her cold, dead hand.
- 20:39And it's true. I think it's just like she will
- 20:43not give up the space. I mean, she just strikes me as
- 20:46that kind of competitor. So I've got coffee, which I
- 20:50think would prepare really well with Johannes and Hutton.
- 20:52And then I think another attacking midfielder, Cory
- 20:56Bethune, has to be there. So give me Cory Bethune, buddy.
- 21:01As the world's foremost Croy Bethune stockholder, you're God
- 21:06damn right she has to be there. And she's my, she's my starting
- 21:09#10 She will be 26 years old in that World Cup year.
- 21:14I think she will be pretty close to her apex.
- 21:18And you know, teams like Spain and your reigning European two
- 21:23time European champion England are not going to be scared of
- 21:27anybody, but they shouldn't be feeling great about Apex, Croix,
- 21:31Bethune playing with a lot of other superstar players.
- 21:35I mean, that's a real problem offensively to deal with.
- 21:38I think, you know, just has the dynamism and I think that's kind
- 21:41of like what Emma Hayes is going to be looking for.
- 21:43It's like distribution that could cover a lot of ground.
- 21:46I grabbed A stat. So Corey's completing 73% of
- 21:51long passes in the end of USL, 27 out of 37.
- 21:54That's 30 plus yards. So, you know, she can spray it.
- 21:57Johannes can spray it. We saw her do that, you know, so
- 22:01I think so now we've got 4. Are you, are we locked up with
- 22:04those four? You had those same 4?
- 22:05Lily Hutton, Sam. Coffee.
- 22:07Korba Bethune. No doubt.
- 22:09Yeah, Coffee. Interesting note about coffee.
- 22:11She'll be 28 in that World Cup year and has not a she'll be
- 22:15making her World Cup debut. Did not appear in in 19 or 23.
- 22:21Oh, let's go. So that's that's that's just got
- 22:24elevated, I think to Sharpie status for sure.
- 22:27So we got our four sounds like we each have three more
- 22:30midfielders to hit. Who else do you have you?
- 22:34Want me to just RIP off the three?
- 22:37Let's go, Let's go one at one at a time.
- 22:39All right, she'll be a crafty veteran, but at this point in
- 22:442027, she will be in a hole 22 years old when this World Cup is
- 22:50played. And her name is Olivia Moultrie.
- 22:52Let's go has to be on there. 125 shot creating actions, good for
- 22:57first in the NWSL. 5.43 shot creating actions per 90, also
- 23:02good for first. Also a goal scorer.
- 23:04Eight goals per Moultrie, good for 6th in the league.
- 23:07So it's like you figure you think about her as like a
- 23:09facilitator, creator can finish and this is a player that's in
- 23:13the top 6 and goal scoring. And then WSL definitely had
- 23:17Moultrie. She, you know, I think burst
- 23:20burst through with this most recent performance.
- 23:22But she's been having such a great season.
- 23:24And to your point, she's still so young and continues to just
- 23:28kind of add stuff to her game, get better.
- 23:30So I think she's she's a shoe in or probably tracking towards
- 23:33that. I'm going to grab the 6th spot
- 23:37and I'm going to say Jaden Shaw. Very cool to see a player kind
- 23:42of get things back on track after like a super white hot
- 23:45start for the US with national team and then sort of tumultuous
- 23:49professional career, you know, sort of 12/15/18 month period
- 23:54and now kind of found a groove a little bit back with the US with
- 23:56national team. Totally agree, she was the next
- 23:59player I have listed as well. I mean, we talked about it when
- 24:02when you put her around other smart players who can read the
- 24:08runs, the very intelligent runs that she's making, she's an
- 24:11absolute nightmare for defenses. Yeah, no doubt.
- 24:15I think, I think she's got to be there.
- 24:17Good fit for him. He is as well.
- 24:19Yep. You want to hit your seventh.
- 24:21Yes, I am going to take the aforementioned Katarina Macario.
- 24:26She will be 28 years old. She's going to play the style
- 24:30that Emma Hayes wants to play. And she is excellent at that
- 24:37style of play. And like if you if you, you
- 24:40know, if you're going up against some of these like physical
- 24:43teams, like what if, you know, what if in your group you draw
- 24:47Germany or Iceland or you know, some of some of kind of your
- 24:51more physical teams? What if you draw Italy and you
- 24:53have to get drawn into a Cardenacchio rock fight?
- 24:56I want I want Katarina Macario in that situation.
- 25:00Yeah, absolutely. I had.
- 25:01I had Macario as one of my forwards, so she was definitely
- 25:05on my short list. The midfielder that I did want
- 25:08to mention though, who made my 23, Corbin Schrader.
- 25:12So I think, you know, you look at what she did last year for
- 25:17PSG, four goals, 2 assists in 19 appearances.
- 25:21So in four appearances for Leo, and she's got those same four
- 25:25goals and two assists. Incredibly productive scoring
- 25:28bangers kind of came out of nowhere.
- 25:31I mean, I've, I've looked up, you know, Corbin Schrader,
- 25:33social media, I can't really find anything.
- 25:36It seems like she's just kind of came out of nowhere.
- 25:39But here we are. I think a good player going to
- 25:41be 24 by the time we get to 2027 and I think ultimately another
- 25:46good fit and I think defensively can do some stuff to compete
- 25:51where the midfield room I put together more offensive focused.
- 25:56I think Corbin could kind of like step in and and at least
- 25:59compete defensively. Yeah, I, I can see it.
- 26:03Look, I mean, she she's a good player.
- 26:06She has room to grow. Obviously working at Lyon and
- 26:10with Gerald as I think will help her game.
- 26:14I think sometimes she has AI think sometimes she relies on
- 26:20just like putting her head down and charging forward.
- 26:24And I am just I mean, I think anybody who listens this show, I
- 26:26am just Spanish football pilled at this point.
- 26:29Like I the the players I liked when I was young played that
- 26:32way. I'm you know, I'm a city fan.
- 26:35I watch Pep Guardiola ball like I just like that style.
- 26:38And so sometimes I think her her passing ability leaves a lot to
- 26:42be desired. And honestly, I mean, just to
- 26:44keep it a Benny year, like I think she's a distraction in in
- 26:47in a lot of cases. And, you know, I know sports
- 26:51coaches and managers kind of look at that kind of stuff or
- 26:54it's just like, are you worth it?
- 26:56And I think she's, like I said, she's a good player.
- 26:59She's a fine player for sure. I don't know, I don't know if
- 27:03she's worth the distraction to me, but I, I can absolutely
- 27:06understand it. I I understand why anybody would
- 27:08put her on the roster. Yeah, and I guess we'll see.
- 27:12I guess we'll see what happens, you know, once we get there, you
- 27:15know, I mean, definitely take that point.
- 27:17But again, a long time between now and then.
- 27:19But let's shift gears. I want to hit the forward room.
- 27:22What? You hit one of mine already.
- 27:24I think Macari. Macari had listed as a forward.
- 27:26She made my 23. Like I mentioned, those couple
- 27:30goals against New Zealand had a look in more like Shaq in the
- 27:33post, less like Dwight in the post.
- 27:35So I was happy to see that. But who else?
- 27:37Who else do you have in your forward room here?
- 27:39So my 2 wings that I have in my 4231, so I, you know, I
- 27:44mentioned Hutton and Johannes as the holding midfielders.
- 27:46Then I have obviously Bethune is at the center of that three.
- 27:50The two wings that I'm going to have, I don't think it's going
- 27:52to really be a surprise to anybody.
- 27:54Alyssa Thompson on the left, Trinity Rodman on the right.
- 27:59What's up everybody? How you going to defend those
- 28:01two? Love that.
- 28:03Yeah, two players that also made my list.
- 28:07Got to got to have them there. I'm just going to like include
- 28:10the the full triple espresso compliment into my 23 just out
- 28:15of respect, you know, I think, you know, we're we're projecting
- 28:19forward age wise, but we're also I'm well, I'm also projecting
- 28:22like full health recovery, you know, like just basically back
- 28:25to full back to full strength and then whatever normal time
- 28:29age we would expect there. So I had the full trip triple
- 28:34espresso compliment. I also had Alyssa Thompson and
- 28:39then to round things out, I had both Ms. Years and Michelle
- 28:44Cooper as kind of like my backup wings.
- 28:47And I think there was just something about, and I'm not
- 28:50saying that this is going to happen, you know, but I did make
- 28:53the case when we're watching triple espresso, it's like, all
- 28:55right, well, this is very cool. We should appreciate this.
- 28:58We shouldn't just assume that this is going to be our our
- 29:00attack for the next 10. You know, like we'd love to do
- 29:03that as kind of like pundits and like, what do we see the very
- 29:05next tournament? I don't like any of them or like
- 29:07for whatever reason, it was over three at that point.
- 29:10So we'll, we'll we'll assume that they're back.
- 29:13But there there was something about Sears on the left, Cooper
- 29:18on the right, Hutton and Lily in the middle and Macario in the in
- 29:23the 9 where those five physical players just had death * vibes.
- 29:30And I'm like, if you're a, if you're a defense, if you're
- 29:33Brazil, you might have a Tarsiani or a Hafaya or, you
- 29:37know, like, but it's hard to defend with those five profiles
- 29:42just coming at you, the ball being able to be distributed in
- 29:46intelligent ways, runs coming up the backside.
- 29:50And even when you're in position, we saw this with
- 29:52Michelle Cooper, even when you're in position to defend
- 29:55her, she'll just, you know, like, dispose of you because,
- 30:00you know, it's like, it's just that's just how he rolls.
- 30:02So there was something so Death starry about watching those five
- 30:06players just out physical, you know, you know, hapless New
- 30:09Zealand. Yeah, and the the thing about
- 30:13Macario is, yeah, she'll out physical you.
- 30:15She'll outrun you. She she hits the ball into the
- 30:19middle of the danger area off the end line so brilliantly.
- 30:24Like, I mean, she she waits till the sometime she waits till the
- 30:27last possible second to serve the ball into the middle in a
- 30:31spot where the goalkeeper is just in a rough spot.
- 30:35Like, am I going to dive out for it?
- 30:36Am I going to try to catch? Do I have to hold and, and try
- 30:39to brace for the shot? I mean, Cooper's an absolute
- 30:42genius. Yeah, exactly.
- 30:44Yeah. And and so Cooper's an absolute
- 30:45genius. Well, I had her on my on my
- 30:49sharpie list in our last episode.
- 30:53So she's she's on the roster and you've already alluded to it.
- 30:56Speaking of mentioning triple espresso.
- 30:59But so Sophie Wilson is the top. She is the one in my 434231.
- 31:04She has to be multiple time NWSLMVP, one of the most
- 31:09brilliant goal scorers you could imagine, a professional goal
- 31:12scorer of the highest order, Golden Boot winner in the league
- 31:14as well. So, I mean, I did not have
- 31:19Mallory Swanson and I on my roster on my 23, but I do want
- 31:23to say she is obviously a fabulous player.
- 31:26As I looked at it though, my 6, my 6 forwards were Wilson
- 31:34Thompson, Rodman, Cooper Sears. I'm right there with you on
- 31:38that. And Ally Centenor, she'll be,
- 31:41she'll be 23 years old should be getting more reps for, for
- 31:45Kansas City current. And I just kind of was left
- 31:48thinking, will a 29 year old Mallory Swanson be quite as good
- 31:56as a 24 year old Michelle Cooper, 26 year old Amos Sears
- 32:00or a 23 year old Ally Sentinor? I think it's a toss up, but I I
- 32:04want to be clear, it's not impossible that Mallory Swanson
- 32:08is better than any of those three players in two years
- 32:10because she's a supernova in her own right.
- 32:13Yeah, and I somebody also mentioned to the, I think they
- 32:18mentioned, well, they mentioned Swanson as well in their comment
- 32:20section last week about us kind of overlooking Swanson.
- 32:23It just didn't come up with the conversation.
- 32:26But I think if Swanson's back to full health, I think her goal
- 32:30scoring, considering what we've seen from this US attack, I
- 32:34don't think you could overlook that.
- 32:37Like, I think, you know, you just you just need it, it it we
- 32:42just might need a mouse wanted game, you know, and I think like
- 32:45she'll still be within the age that I think she'll be able to
- 32:50more more than capable of of producing that even against top
- 32:53competition, right, If she's back to, you know, full
- 32:55strength. All right, pretty solid list.
- 32:59I love that we I think we synced up on 20 of the 23.
- 33:03So Alyssa Thompson, Trinity Rodman, Sophie Wilson, Kat
- 33:06Macario, Emma Sears, Michelle Cooper, forwards or attackers,
- 33:11Lil Johannes, Claire Hutton, Sam Coffey, Craig Bethune, Olivia
- 33:14Moultrie, Jaden Shaw In our midfield, Naomi Germa, Tara
- 33:18McKeon, Emily Fox, Avery Patterson, Jordan Bug as our
- 33:21defenders. And we also synced up on our
- 33:23goalkeepers, PTJ Fountelis, Joyce, Mandy McGlynn, Claudia
- 33:27Dickey. And then where we had a little
- 33:30bit of divergent attacking wise, I had Mel Swanson, you put
- 33:34forward Ally Sentnor. In the midfield, I had Corbin
- 33:38Schrader. And then in defense, I had Emily
- 33:41Sam's and you had Lily Reel and ITC Hall of Famer Emily Sonnet.
- 33:47I feel pretty good about, I mean, I love the, I love the
- 33:50overlap and I think we got the right room and I love that we
- 33:53also had three, you know, 3 divergences.
- 33:58And we also agreed that we'd have three, you know, Subs or
- 34:01reserves. So it could be that the 26 we
- 34:04have are the actual 26. I wouldn't be surprised.
- 34:07There were two of my reserves who did not get named, and so
- 34:12I'd like to name them right now. And it it would be a a sham if I
- 34:17did this entire episode without naming her because I really
- 34:20tried to find a way to get her on.
- 34:22Roosevelt's going to be 32 when this tournament is played.
- 34:24She's going to be 32 in the year this tournament is played.
- 34:27And she's a legend. I've often said that she's one
- 34:30of my favorite players when I really kind of started to
- 34:34ratchet up my interest in the sport.
- 34:36And, and you know, obviously I'm an old man.
- 34:39I was, I was 14 years old in 99 during kind of like The Big
- 34:44Bang. But in 2019, you know, when I
- 34:49was like, OK, I'm going to start watching the league.
- 34:52Rose Lavelle had moments in that 2019 World Cup where I was just
- 34:55like, is she the best player on the field?
- 34:57And like, for like long stretches And, you know, I, I've
- 35:01just been a fan of her game ever since.
- 35:02So it was hard to leave Lavelle off, but I figured I would put
- 35:05her as a reserve and then my other reserve to get a forward
- 35:08in there. Yasmine Ryan.
- 35:10She'll be 28. She plays that Emma Hayes style.
- 35:13She's she's tough, she has great skill.
- 35:17And I figured if I was going to have three, my three were
- 35:19Lavelle, Sam's and Ryan. Love it.
- 35:23I also had Roosevelt is one of my reserves.
- 35:28I mentioned Trudy Armstrong has another one of my reserves, the
- 35:31third one that I had Maddie Dalene.
- 35:36Let's go, let's go. She was only on the.
- 35:39Periphery that's. Awesome.
- 35:42Needs a little look. I think the speed is there.
- 35:45I think you know, the the she has that kind of like, you know,
- 35:51the speed, but can also kind of change direction, but like
- 35:55change the angle basically of the run and keep the speed.
- 35:58You know, some people are just like straight line.
- 36:00She could go and then kind of like, you know, turn a go route
- 36:03into a post route and kind of like not miss a step, you know,
- 36:07and has great ball skills, great finishing skills.
- 36:12I think a player that can kind of grow into, you know, I, I
- 36:15wanted to find the attacker that I thought, you know, could
- 36:19evolve. And I think just from what we've
- 36:21seen, you know, the growth in her game just for Seattle, just
- 36:24since since doing this show, I think kind of puts her on a
- 36:27really interesting trajectory to be one of those types of players
- 36:31that, you know, can can put put forward midfield minutes, can
- 36:34dart in from the midfield, can play on the wing and like just,
- 36:38I don't know, be be an interesting wild card.
- 36:39I think if she goes up a level or two, she's she's right there
- 36:43in that mix for me. I absolutely love it.
- 36:45She's got time at wingback too. I mean, playing for Laura
- 36:48Harvey, you know, one thing that she absolutely has to have in
- 36:52her arsenal is being a willing defender.
- 36:54So I think that bodes well for for her future.
- 36:57What a great, what a great shout by you.
- 37:00I will say on on the periphery, obviously not one of my 3
- 37:04reserves, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention Sam Meza,
- 37:08who will be 25 in the year this tournament has played.
- 37:11I mean, she's Laura Harvey has told me on multiple occasions
- 37:15she's been the best player on the team for a very surprising
- 37:19Seattle Rain FC this season. It's just that defensive
- 37:23midfield room or you know, the midfielder room in general is
- 37:27just so packed. I just didn't, I don't know.
- 37:30I mean, we'll, we'll see what Meza grows into.
- 37:32Like she certainly has a great starting point this year, but I
- 37:36that that midfield room is stacked.
- 37:37And so with that I do. I also want to mention another
- 37:40ITC favorite, Hal Hirschfeld. She's going to be 26.
- 37:44I know she's, you know, been a little banged up this year, but
- 37:48great size, great attitude, another smart player who plays
- 37:52with a composure that you like. I gave her a long look as well.
- 37:58Yeah, absolutely. And I think it really does speak
- 38:00to who's also available at that time because weirdly, if coffee
- 38:05is not available, it's like, I don't like, it's like by my
- 38:08name, Mealy goes to Hershfeld. It's like we need somebody in
- 38:11there that could like really muck it up.
- 38:13Hershfeld definitely on my short list.
- 38:17Couple other midfielders, Lindsay Heaps.
- 38:19It's just tough for me to leave her off.
- 38:21You know, also it's like, I don't know, tough to kind of
- 38:24like, you know, you just think that you're going to be in a
- 38:27tournament, things are going to get dicey.
- 38:30You know, you're going to want players like with that
- 38:31experience. It will be tough when it comes
- 38:34to that point if Heaps is not on the list to have left her off
- 38:37for short. Jalen Howell made my short list
- 38:40and Taylor Flynn as well. You know, like, yeah, great.
- 38:44Think about a player that could be Taylor Flynn just has like
- 38:47all, you know, limbs and, you know, like stretchy distance
- 38:51just could like just she's got that that Legion of Boom kind of
- 38:54vibe to to her defensively in the midfield.
- 38:56There might be a match where we just need that player to stand
- 39:00in the middle of the park and just disrupt everything, you
- 39:03know? And I think like it.
- 39:04It just goes to show how much talent there is and how tough
- 39:07it's going to be to crack this 23.
- 39:08And then it also shows how fucking good players like Claire
- 39:13Hutton and Lily Honest must be for them to just be like, OK,
- 39:17all you other players, y'all are outside like, we're just here,
- 39:20we're in Sharpie, we're we're tracking.
- 39:23And it doesn't matter that neither of us can legally drink
- 39:25alcohol in this country. It's an absolute great call.
- 39:29Flint put up a great year. I love the Jalen Howell call out
- 39:34as well. Yeah, I mean Flint.
- 39:38If Flint does have another season like she did this year,
- 39:42next year I think he would be. And I and I not accusing Emma
- 39:47Hayes of this because I think she would do it.
- 39:49I think it it would be borderline irresponsible to it
- 39:52not least get her in the next international window that season
- 39:56if she plays like this again, because she was fantastic for
- 39:58racing Louisville. I want to make one more quick
- 40:00call out. This one's on the periphery.
- 40:02I know she suffered A devastating ACL injury this
- 40:05year, but I I saw her play in person.
- 40:09Kaya Hanks, left wing Portland thorns.
- 40:13I think she will be, she will be 23 years old when this
- 40:17tournament is played, or at least in the year.
- 40:19This tournament will be played in 2024 for the Wake Forest
- 40:24Demon Demon Deacons. She was first team All American.
- 40:29She was all ACC and she was the top three finalists for the
- 40:32Hermann Trophy, which is essentially in women's football,
- 40:35the Heisman Trophy. And Buddy, she plays with a lot
- 40:39of sauce and that that I know that forward room is going to be
- 40:44absolutely stacked. But when I was thinking about
- 40:46what could players grow into she, I mean, she has a lot of
- 40:51style and speed and smarts. And so I just want to make sure
- 40:55I gave her a shout. Yeah, no doubt.
- 40:58I I, I got to see Kaya Hanks too when Portland came to Bay and
- 41:02same thing. I was just like, OK, that's
- 41:04that's a that's got some impressive skills.
- 41:09A couple other attackers I want to mention.
- 41:10I mentioned Darlene Riley, Tiernan, Raylin Turner.
- 41:15I think Emery Adamus could could have an outside shot of of being
- 41:18interesting mid first. Who's the Seattle guy on this
- 41:21show? What are you doing?
- 41:22Why are you? Why are you stealing?
- 41:25He's got a nuzzle in here. You know, I mean, Libby Andola,
- 41:28she might be, you know, back to full form.
- 41:30We'll see about that. A couple I did a couple of
- 41:32Chicago names. Ali Schlagel.
- 41:35Jamiese Joseph is only 23 years old and like had a real big step
- 41:39up into this season, scoring goals, assists, a player that
- 41:45you know, another, another player that you know, I think is
- 41:47going to again, you mentioned with Taylor Flynn, if, if he
- 41:51stays on the track, he's going to have to get onto Mahay's
- 41:55radar and we'll have to get a look and we'll have to get a
- 41:58couple minutes and see what she's capable of.
- 42:00You know, because she's she's at that age where you you expect
- 42:02some, some improvement. But All in all, big, big pool of
- 42:07of really good players to choose from.
- 42:09There's a bunch too. I'm looking at my list of 48
- 42:11that I didn't mention. I won't kind of knock there
- 42:13anymore, but I think we did. I think we did a pretty good job
- 42:16here, man. Anything else you want to hit
- 42:18before we got here? I think that's it.
- 42:20I mean, obviously everybody chime in, let us know who are we
- 42:23foolish for leaving out, who is the U-17 player that we need to
- 42:27be thinking about? Who's the U21 player that we
- 42:30might need to think about that we didn't mention?
- 42:33Is there an obvious mention? Should should you yell at us for
- 42:36not, you know, talking about Lindsay Heaps until the end?
- 42:39You know, granted, she will be 33 in the year of that
- 42:42tournament. Although, you know, just based
- 42:45on the comments I've seen in our past videos, I don't know if
- 42:49there will be a lot of Lindsay Heaps defenders.
- 42:52But you are you are right about her, her pedigree, her
- 42:55experience and her accomplishments.
- 42:57I mean, you know, check the jewelry like she's done all
- 43:00right for herself. So yeah, please let us know in
- 43:03the comments. Who, who did we forget?
- 43:05Who do you have? Who's your starting 11?
- 43:07Who's your starting? Who's your 23?
- 43:09You know, put us on game here. Yeah, no doubt.
- 43:13Don't come at us too hard. We're just a couple UU 46
- 43:17podcasters trying to trying to make it happen out here.
- 43:20Quick episode calendar. If you missed these Jordan
- 43:24Sukowitzer, you go back and check that out.
- 43:26That was a banger you we have women's Champions League match
- 43:29day 2 recap, another banger and we covered decision day match
- 43:33week 26 in the NWSL where we talked about all the different
- 43:35machinations that are just a couple days from unraveling
- 43:39here, which leads us right. I mean really nicely into next
- 43:43week where we'll we'll be back into the NWSL to talk about
- 43:46those playoff matchups. Those will all be decided.
- 43:49We'll also have an end of season award show.
- 43:51I think this is a good primer on like kind of wrapping my head
- 43:54around all these NWSL stand out players that that that might
- 43:56kind of crack our awards, you know, episode.
- 44:00So I'm excited about that. More champsy coverage coming
- 44:02your way as well next week. All right, man, Now I definitely
- 44:05think we did it. Is there anything else you want
- 44:07to hit before we get out of here for real?
- 44:08For real. For real, For real.
- 44:10I do want to say I'm kind of questioning having Mcglinn over
- 44:14Silkowitz on the roster because I I kind of do want to start.
- 44:18I mean, obviously we're going to assess how she plays next year,
- 44:22but I do think, you know, if if next year starts the way I think
- 44:27it will based on the way she talks about her preparation and
- 44:30her her offseason activities, we might have to start the silky
- 44:34for USWNT campaign and I will gladly get that started with
- 44:38you. I.
- 44:39Mean I'm, I'm all, I'm all for that.
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- 45:32doesn't matter. My guys already Sharpie.
- 45:34Didn't you already know what time it is?
- 45:35I appreciate you bro. Likewise, buddy and and thank
- 45:39you for allowing me on the U46 team with you, especially
- 45:44because I am so significantly U46II.
- 45:48Appreciate you still allowing me on the team with you so I'm.
- 45:53Not going to try, I won't take that personal.
- 45:56I didn't know. I mean, I still forget that you
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- 46:02Like I like I say, though, you know, we we've just turned 20 a
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