Latest / Brandon Fogal Evolution / #219 - Clavicular, Fertility, and the State of Men
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- 0:01Clavicular, he announced, he revealed that he is infertile.
- 0:05And I guess this was back in November, but it just came, it popped onto my X feed.
- 0:09I know a lot of people were talking about it over the new year's timeframe.
- 0:13It just like was just going off everywhere and everybody was commenting on it.
- 0:16But I look back when it happened, it was on Sneeko's podcast and it was back
- 0:21in November, November 9th, that he revealed this, that he is infertile.
- 0:25And he just said it just without, without even a hesitation and
- 0:28that shows the balls i think of this guy he doesn't care this
- 0:32is the new way people don't care just say what
- 0:35you think say what you mean and in this topic this
- 0:37i mean it's not like he's infertile for life but i mean he's seen at this time
- 0:41with all the things he's taken he is a genetically modified human being that
- 0:46has been grown in a lab that he is doing things for looks maxing to make himself
- 0:51look peak male condition he is ascending and that's what he wants to do.
- 0:56He's 19 years old, 19 years old.
- 0:59I pulled this from the one we're going to look at.
- 1:01Mary Catherine Hamm retweeted it and she commented on it. I saw it because Tim Pool reposted it.
- 1:08And this is kind of the full video. It's about a minute long of him,
- 1:12this revelation. But keep in mind, this happened back in November.
- 1:16People are asking, are you going to be infertile? Do you worry about having children?
- 1:20So right now I am infertile, but I'm not able to have a kid right now.
- 1:25But if I wanted to, there's a protocol I can put in place to be immediately
- 1:29good again. Wait, why are you infertile right now?
- 1:30So it's just like a negative feedback loop when you're not needing to produce
- 1:35testosterone anymore because your body realizes, okay, we're getting it from
- 1:38an exhaustion. So you're not producing any testosterone naturally?
- 1:41None? No. I'm not taking TRT, bro. Well, how do you think it works?
- 1:45You just don't, your body realizes
- 1:47we're at a certain level we don't need anymore. So it stops reducing it.
- 1:50So how do you fix that? How do you have kids? You just take something that,
- 1:54you know, signals your brain to restart the production.
- 1:56You stop taking the testosterone, your levels start to diminish,
- 1:59you know, you agonize the receptors and then your body just starts producing it again.
- 2:04So have other people done that before? Yeah, dude. Like the chance of,
- 2:08you know being completely infertile and it's like
- 2:11one in like a hundred thousand you should free some sperm you know
- 2:14you've got to do that before you make the commitment right but next time
- 2:17like unless yeah you know yeah you could do that reset but
- 2:20dude like the odds of you know going permanently infertile
- 2:24are so egregiously low that it's not really okay not really necessary he he
- 2:29explained why he's infertile it's based on his testosterone levels he can get
- 2:32something to bump it back up so it starts going again but it's because he has
- 2:36been taking supplements pretty much since he was like sounded like 14, 15, different things.
- 2:40And he does about every drug that's out there, but he's doing it in a way to build his physique.
- 2:47He's doing surgeries on his jaw. He's doing a lot of things just so he wants
- 2:51to look like the perfect man.
- 2:53And I mean, credit where credit is due.
- 2:56I've, and I've listened to him since I talked about him the first time,
- 2:59I didn't know anything about him really besides what Nick Fuentes had said,
- 3:03a few different clips that he'd brought him up and about the, about this guy. Yeah.
- 3:07Since I've learned more about him, I give him massive credit because of what he is doing.
- 3:14He's living out what he believes to the fullest extent.
- 3:19I think he's young, so I think he's going in directions that I don't think are
- 3:23the best, you know, because he's completely focused on the physical and the
- 3:28materialistic self, what has happened in his life now.
- 3:33Now, he's not thinking about many other people besides just trying to get them
- 3:38to live the same way that he's living because he thinks that it's going to benefit them the most.
- 3:44Because it disregards the spiritual component because I don't think you can
- 3:48lose sight of that, that we are not just a physical chemical mechanism walking
- 3:54around. We have a spiritual component to us, all of us to do.
- 3:58And I think he's, but maybe that comes with maturity. I didn't think about any
- 4:03of this until I was really 20 or 21.
- 4:06So he's not even there. And I know a lot of people don't think about it until they're older in life.
- 4:10Maybe it's just going to come with age. But maybe he's doing something right because he is focusing.
- 4:15He's honing in on this because this is what his audience, the people that he's
- 4:19reaching, young men, men in general, are.
- 4:22Of what he thinks is going to help them the most and become the best version of them.
- 4:27Now, this is the podcast that I actually, I listened to the whole thing with
- 4:30him when he went on Michael Knowles.
- 4:31And maybe that is why people are becoming more and more aware of him,
- 4:35why it's just, it's showing up on everyone's X feed now, or maybe it's because
- 4:39I saw something and now I'm just coming, I'm a little bit late to the party,
- 4:43but I don't know if you've heard about Clavicular,
- 4:45if you know too much about him, but he revealed a lot about his mindset and
- 4:50the way that he thinks on the Michael Knowles show.
- 4:53And it was very eye-opening because I actually could see a window to his soul,
- 4:59how he is interpreting his lifestyle, how he's interpreting the things that
- 5:04are happening around him. Should we focus in on politics?
- 5:07Should we ignore it? Should we just
- 5:09do everything that is just about looks-maxing? Should that be our life?
- 5:14We're going to dive into this clip. It's pretty interesting.
- 5:18I just don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to just advocate for your average
- 5:22person to only concern themselves with their own. To me, that's the big cope.
- 5:28I agree with many of the observations you're making about the society,
- 5:31but the big cope, you heard this with the libs when they were trying to push
- 5:35the trans stuff and they were upset that some of us were pushing against it.
- 5:38And they said, how does this affect you?
- 5:40You're walking out, it's basically your society is Sodom and Gomorrah.
- 5:44And they say, well, how does it affect you if I decide I want to like castrate
- 5:48little kids into school and redefine marriage and slaughter babies and sacrifice
- 5:52them to Moloch? And how does that affect you? You just mind your own business.
- 5:55And I think- Obviously a good point. Obviously a good point.
- 5:57And he's going to take it from the perspective of,
- 6:01you know, if people want to just damage themselves, screw up their whole life
- 6:03by just castrating themselves or just taking things that are just going to remove
- 6:08their gender or change their gender or anything like that, you know,
- 6:11they're going to descend.
- 6:12I'm going to ascend. And that's the kind of the way he's taking it.
- 6:15Yeah maybe maybe you could go there but like,
- 6:19If people haven't had a fully formed mind and adults are telling them to do
- 6:26this and kind of push them in this direction, I think we do have a moral responsibility
- 6:31to step in and not allow that to happen.
- 6:33But yeah, I mean, if people are of a right mind, they're of a sound mind,
- 6:37and they're mature enough to make decisions that are going to drastically change
- 6:40their life forever, if it goes against the principles that, you know,
- 6:45that if there are moral guideline, guidelining principles that God has given
- 6:49us that he made it man and woman, and you're not born a man.
- 6:53And then you become a woman, you don't born a woman, you become a man.
- 6:56He's made you the way that you are for a specific reason. So it's like,
- 6:59if you, if we want to just try to become God ourselves and just,
- 7:03Oh, I want to be what I want to be.
- 7:05I don't want to, I don't want to look up. I don't want to recognize the way
- 7:09that God has made me and live that out and be fully fruitful and flourishing
- 7:14for society and this world. How about I don't mind my own business?
- 7:18How about, actually, how about my business is my community and I have a right
- 7:21to enforce standards and norms that are good and traditional and conducive to
- 7:25flourishing? And how about you mind your own business?
- 7:28But the problem is, you see what you just did there is you spiked your cortisol
- 7:31thinking about transgenders.
- 7:33Will that max anything on me? No, that's a... I think that is the point.
- 7:37We should bring the temperature down.
- 7:39And he's like, he is, it reminds me of like a James Dean.
- 7:43That guy back in the day that was really just very popular and just, I think he died young.
- 7:50And just he had that aura about him.
- 7:53You know, and clavicular at this young age, he has that aura that he's cool.
- 7:59He doesn't, he's not, he's not going to be easily set off. He's going to say
- 8:04things very thoughtfully, and
- 8:07he's not going to allow, I guess this is a thing, your cortisol to spike.
- 8:11People have that, you know, I'd only heard that from my wife,
- 8:14you know, because she brings up like, you know, if I startle her or something
- 8:16like that, you spike my cortisol. I guess that is a real thing.
- 8:21I mean, to me, it was always just fantasy, but I guess it is.
- 8:24We are, we have chemicals in us. We are a machine.
- 8:27Our body is a fully functioning machine that has these, the periodic table just
- 8:31running, coursing through our veins, you know?
- 8:33So I get it that things can spike, go up, go up and down, and we should try to prevent that.
- 8:38And I could take a few pointers from him.
- 8:41He's beyond his age in a lot of ways, the ways that he's thinking through these,
- 8:46But in some of them, as everyone, I think he has some blindsides. He has some spots.
- 8:50He's not focusing on them because at this point in time, it's not it's it's
- 8:56not the platform he's built.
- 8:58And it's not the audience that he has. It's not the the target group of men that want to hear this.
- 9:04It's not the it's not the most fun thing, you know, when you hear about spiritualism
- 9:09and about morality and, you know, doing the right thing.
- 9:12But then again, I go back and forth because it seems like more and more the
- 9:16younger guys in our nation are becoming more socially conservative.
- 9:21They care about morality. They care about what's right.
- 9:24But they've just been fed a lot of crap. They look at things and they don't
- 9:29trust anything because the authority that has just thrown things down their
- 9:33throat and put them in this terrible situation.
- 9:35Because to me, to be honest, just to sit back and just think about younger people
- 9:39and the younger men, especially, they're grown up in this womanized culture
- 9:44that we've built, that women are the pinnacle of everything.
- 9:49Our society has put women over men.
- 9:52And guys, when I think if we have a really smart attitude of how God has ordered
- 9:59things, he created men first and he created woman out of man. There is a hierarchy.
- 10:05It's not to say one is more valuable than the other, But when we turn things
- 10:09upside down and we make, I just think of churches or anything in society,
- 10:13we make it all womanized.
- 10:15We make it all about, it's not grasping at what is at the heart of men.
- 10:21And we want to hunt. We want to gather. We want to fight.
- 10:26There's a time for war. There's a time for peace. We want to have a say.
- 10:30We want to have the main say, the final say.
- 10:33And it's like, I think that we're being fed that, no, women can have the final
- 10:36say. You know, you guys just do your own thing.
- 10:39And I think that's the culture that these younger guys are growing up in and
- 10:42they're fed up with it. They're revolting against it.
- 10:46And I, and I, I'm seeing, I know we can, you can take it too far,
- 10:49but sometimes it needs to be said.
- 10:52It needs to be said that men need to be men and women need to be women, you know?
- 10:58And there's, there's things that guys can do that girls can't,
- 11:01vice versa, you know? That's a very catabolic hormone.
- 11:03So if you're advocating for people to, you know, go around and,
- 11:07you know, concern themselves with these issues or go to, you know,
- 11:11like school, like board conferences and like, you know, be outspoken about this,
- 11:16that's just largely going to be unproductive.
- 11:19And, you know, it might seem like a doomer mentality or like,
- 11:23you know, you're just going to let society go to.
- 11:25It's like on an individual level, it's just, it's not going to be productive.
- 11:29But on a political right well look
- 11:32it's been productive in as much as him michael knowles he's
- 11:35got a show he's doing his podcast he and he
- 11:38has a voice that a lot of people out there and this is being
- 11:40it's almost the idealism versus realism clavicular is is saying that it's just
- 11:45let's be realistic about this let's be realistic the average guy out there shouldn't
- 11:50be concerning himself with things that are not going to really benefit him in
- 11:55the long run if he's going to allow his cortisol to get spiked up over things that don't matter.
- 12:00And he's going to just put his, his neck out on the line where it can cost him
- 12:04money, cost him to grow, to ascend as the man that he should be.
- 12:10You know, the, what's the point of it? Michael Knowles is going to fight back
- 12:13because he has a podcast.
- 12:15He's saying things. He wants to affect the culture that we have based on ideas,
- 12:20based on societal norms, conserving societal norms that matter and that are
- 12:25good, fighting for the good.
- 12:27And I think we've made it so guys, men, young men want to check out because there's no point.
- 12:33It's just pushing a rock up a hill to nothing change.
- 12:38Over and over. And at the end of the day, you're worse off.
- 12:42If you try to fight for the good, you almost become worse off.
- 12:47At least the trans thing. There's so many other problems. At least the trans
- 12:50things, though. We've kind of won on that.
- 12:52Well, the way that I see trannies is like, that's one more person to mog once
- 12:56they brutally butcher them.
- 12:57Themselves transitioning, you know, but is it, you know, I see that natural
- 13:03selection at its finest. He says, if a trans person wants to do that,
- 13:07they want to just ruin themselves, destroy themselves, go for it.
- 13:11You know, maybe not allow a younger person and influence a younger person to
- 13:15do the same thing until they have a fully formed mind.
- 13:18But if somebody wants to destroy themselves and he's saying,
- 13:20yeah, go for it. And he brings up the term mogging.
- 13:24And I had to like really genuinely look this up what is this mogging and it
- 13:29comes from amog which means alpha.
- 13:32Alpha male of the group. That's where it kind of started. Internet slang for
- 13:36one person significantly outclassing or outperforming another,
- 13:39usually in terms of physical attractiveness, but also in style,
- 13:43status, or skill, making the other person seem inferior.
- 13:46It comes from the looks maxing trend on TikTok and originated from gym culture
- 13:51as a way to describe someone overshadowing others, sometimes playfully,
- 13:55other times more pointedly.
- 13:56I get what he's doing and And I think I'm probably about 50-50.
- 14:00I think maybe about 60-40.
- 14:01I like 60%. I like what he's doing. But the 40%, I think he's missing out on
- 14:05things. And I think that's going to come with age maturity.
- 14:08You know, he's beyond his years in some things. But I think he's missing a lot
- 14:13of things that I think it's just going to come with growing and becoming a more
- 14:17of a mature male that he's going to maybe pick up on it.
- 14:21But Clavicular is still, I still want to learn more about this guy.
- 14:24I think overall he could be a force for good, but I think he needs to really
- 14:30expand his mindset in certain things and not just, you got to bring in the spiritual component.
- 14:36You are, everybody is made in the image of God.
- 14:39You got to bring in that in because if you're just ignoring that.
- 14:42You're not going to go as far as this ultimate man that you are saying you want
- 14:48to be and you want to influence others to become if you're disregarding that.
- 14:51So I, that's my, that's the only thing I would say really about it.
- 14:54I hope he does bring that more as a component into his overall message,
- 14:58but certainly an interesting person.
- 15:02So we'll leave it at that. I hope you all have a great new year.
- 15:06I hope this year, uh, 2026 is amazing and, um, major blessings and good things
- 15:10happen for you in your life.
- 15:12So follow me on X and Instagram at Brandon Fogle. Have a great day.