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"Saying No Means Evil Wins" | The Latest Nonsense from Paul & Morgan and Unbuckled · Rachel Oates

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Hey everyone and welcome back to a new video.
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So if you've seen my channel of the last couple of months,
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you'll know that I've been responding to Morgan or Paula
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Morgan's new podcast with her best friend Carl.
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It is called Unbuckled and so far we have had screeching and
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nonsense body shaming, calorie counting, hate towards and
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teenager lists and discussion of husbands controlling what their
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wives were today in terms of the dodgy husband wife
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relationships. It's only getting worse and
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today we're responding to episode 3 of the podcast.
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I thought I'd kind of respond them all as we go on, but I've
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got a little bit behind with it because I've had a lot of big
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projects going on. But I am enjoying making these
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videos because it's something a lot lighter than the really big
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videos. It's something less serious.
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The responses are shorter. So it's kind of like that nice
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little like I get that little boost of, hey, I've finished a
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project. This feels really good.
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And also, it's just quite fun to do something that's a little bit
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sillier and less serious. Well, I say that some of the
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stuff we're going to be discussing in this video is a
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little more on the serious side in terms of like some of the
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harmful information they're spreading and how we're going to
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correct it, that is to be taken seriously.
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But I mean, just in general, it's Morgan you.
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With all due respect, she's not very serious.
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And it's nice to just do something that's a little less
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high stakes and high pressure, you know?
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So that's what we're going to be doing today.
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If you excuse me wearing my glasses, my eyesights got quite
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bad recently. I'm struggling to kind of read
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my script a little bit without them.
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So that's why I've been wearing them recently.
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Sorry if it's annoying. I just, I, I need to read.
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And today we are moving on to episode 3 of her podcast.
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I know, I know, I'm behind with it.
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I'm sorry. I'm going to try and catch up,
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but this is an episode which the title desperately needs some
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punctuation because I'm confused.
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It's called respect your elder's son.
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Or. Respect your elder's son or
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respect your elder's son. We we need a comma or an
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apostrophe in there to tell me what it's meant to be.
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I assume they mean respect your elders comma son.
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But you know, This is why we need punctuation kids.
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These do constantly go on about how old they feel and how mature
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they are now that their moms, despite only being like what, 27
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and 31 or something, they're not that much younger than me.
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So I'm sure they'll probably end up ranting something about their
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youth of today or some nonsense like that.
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But let's watch it and find out. I say that I've already watched
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it. I've already written the script.
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I'm so sorry. But anyway, we'll get into it.
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What is up, ladies and maybe gentlemen, welcome back to
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Unbuckled. Oops, that was your part.
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Nope, that's OK, it's a little unhinged.
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And a lot honest. And as we saw in the last video,
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pretty damn dangerous at times too.
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By the way, Morgan voice memoed me on her way and she's talking
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about what she was going to get from cookout.
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And let me just tell you, I won't say exactly, but the
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transcript did not say coke float.
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Oh no, it. Had an extra C and no EI will
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let you guys decipher. Oh stop it.
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You know Coke. FL.
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Oh my gosh. I swear they are actual
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children. I know, I know, that sounds
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contradictory. I've just been like, they're not
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that old, but also like they are adults, like they have the sense
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of humour of teenagers and it just it, it's giving me kind of
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like Arrested Development. You know?
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At this point I have to admit I've skipped over showing you a
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hell of a lot because we are actually 5 minutes into their 38
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minute podcast and literally nothing has been said other than
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call apologising for coughing in past videos and that's it.
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That is it for 5 minutes. So This is why I'm skipping over
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a lot for you guys. And there is a lot of irony in
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this next. Clip though, and that too.
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I did see a few comments that we're not very impressed with
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our audio. Totally fair.
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We're doing the best we can. One of us is doing the best we
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can. Yeah, yeah.
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Talk about people complaining about your audio while you
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loudly slurp into the microphone.
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Thanks for that. But seriously, no, I can't.
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I can't complain about audio. I I find audio the hardest start
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of everything. So, you know, I'm not going to
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shame them for this. I think where I find problem
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with Morgan here is that not that like her audio's poor or
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something like that. I don't have an issue with that.
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Like I think I said before in videos, I want, when I watch
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YouTube, I want the videos to feel a little homemade, you
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know, I want to feel like I'm just chatting with a friend.
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I don't mind if people have like messy backgrounds or imperfect
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lighting. I want to.
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I don't want to just hear what they have to say, you know, I
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don't really mind about the imperfections.
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I think what bothers me with Morgan is her lack of concern
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and care for her audience. She's more like and give a damn
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like you think, but then still expects them to watch and give
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her money. It's interesting and I still
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don't understand why she's making content at all when she
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clearly hates it and hates any interactions with an online
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audience. And she said in the past how she
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doesn't really want to be a YouTube.
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She never really wanted to be a YouTube, she'd give it up if she
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could. So it's interesting that she's
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somehow for some reason still doing it.
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I don't know. Maybe just at this point is
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because she's not qualified for any other job.
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I don't know. Well, can I just say.
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I would love it if you did. That, yeah.
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You did. I saw that.
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I loved it. Yeah.
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I don't know if any of you guys saw me be unhinged, but it's an
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interesting thing to be unhinged, you know what I'm
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saying? Because.
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OK, I think we need to take a step back and I think we need to
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explain to people what you are talking about when you say you
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went unhinged on Instagram because maybe some people don't
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follow you. Maybe they do, but maybe they
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don't understand that you, you know what I mean?
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Maybe unhinged to them is like you did some crazies.
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I do have to say thank God for Carl being the voice of reason
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here and actually understanding that they have an audience
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watching them who doesn't watch 100% of Morgan's content all the
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time. Morgan seems to think that
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anyone who watches automatically knows her and her whole back
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story and like is really invested in everything.
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And so she doesn't really take the time to ever, like, explain
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anything to her audience, and she doesn't really take the time
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to introduce anything or, like, I don't know, it feels very
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Morgan centric. Whereas Carl at least seems
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aware that, hey, we have people watching.
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Maybe maybe we should give them some information.
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Maybe we should let them in on this conversation.
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We should let them in on these references.
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You know, it's, yeah, there's a lot of problematic stuff that
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Carl says across these podcasts. But I do at least think she's a
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little more aware of them having an audience and is a little more
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willing to create content for an audience rather than just for
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themselves, You know? Does that make any sense?
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I hope so. And I said, I'm feeling a little
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unhinged, let's do an unhinged Q&A.
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So people wrote in their questions and I just gave an
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unhinged response. So whether it was about like
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sex, postpartum or I can't even remember any of the other ones
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that I did, What else? There was one weird one about
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like a guy or a girl I don't know who's asking if it was OK
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to do a podcast with SO. Oh yeah, it was a girl.
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I was. And gender.
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Yes, there was one about if we're done having kids.
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There was one about the birth control forms we believe in or
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would use. And so anyhow.
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I think maybe we have different definitions of unhinged because
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this just sounds like pretty regular content for Morgan.
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Just just another day in the office, you know?
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And this next bit is where things start to get a little
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dangerous and more serious. So little warning.
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And before I play the next clip, well, I'm just going to call it
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what it is. They advocate for marital rape.
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So use your best judgement going forward.
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Don't watch this if it's going to be difficult for you.
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But yeah, let's talk about this because it is more serious.
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I answered those things, but then I made an Instagram real
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talking about how you should not withhold sex from your spouse.
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That's. Spicy in the comments.
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Girl, oh gosh. I will agree with Morgan here.
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This is absolutely unhinged. And I feel like just, you know,
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they can dress it up with like cutesy words and you know, like
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we just do it for our husband, you know, your partner.
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But no, let's call it what it is.
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They are advocating for marital rape.
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Like I said earlier, this is serious.
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I don't care if you're married or not.
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You should never have to have sex with a person with anyone
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you don't want to. It's it's that simple.
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And if you feel coerced to in any way, if you feel forced to,
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if you feel like you're doing it for any other reason than
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because you personally want to, that's right.
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Let's not beat around the Bush. Right so this girl said amazing
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how you could literally make a one hour podcast episode about
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this and people would still say, well you didn't cover this and
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this is important. Critical thinking is so lost
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nowadays I swear. And for those of you saying,
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well, you said every single time you say no, the enemy rejoices,
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I fear you did matrix level choreograph to purposely miss
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the point. If people are so impressionable
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that they take a literal stranger on the Internet words
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as their new law of thinking, and if the stranger didn't cover
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something, then it's just not applicable then applicable then
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those people need to just take a break from the Internet.
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It's common sense, I fear when there's a foundational truth
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like the fact that anyone can be withholding their right to say
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wait within their right to say no.
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She'd like typoed it there first, I think.
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Yeah, with them, they're right to say no when they're not in
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the mood. It's not necessary to have to
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reiterate it every single time it's a given.
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Y'all, She didn't have to say that.
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You're weirdos. So this is a little bit more
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complicated in nuance because part of me does agree with the
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commenter here, you know? Yeah, people will always get mad
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because you can't possibly cover everything in like 1 single
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video or one single post or anything like that.
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And there are a lot of topics which do require nuance and
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deserve to be looked at from a lot of angles.
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I think it's important to remember that sometimes when
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people talk about their own opinions on a topic, they aren't
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necessarily saying everyone else's opinion is wrong.
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They're just saying, hey, I'm aware there's other opinions,
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but here's mine, you know? And sometimes just because a
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person doesn't mention something, that doesn't mean
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they don't care about it or they disagree with it.
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Maybe it just means they kind of took it for granted that people
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were already aware of it, or they maybe thought, hey, I've
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already said this a lot of times in the past.
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I don't need to repeat it here. Or maybe it just didn't, you
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know, pop into their mind in that particular moment.
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So I am very aware that that is, that is a thing.
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However, I'm not sure this is necessarily applicable to what
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Morgan said. So we need to take a look at
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exactly what that was. So here's the Instagram post.
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Can I tell you guys something? Every single time you withhold
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sex from your spouse, the enemy rejoices.
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Every little excuse that you give as to why you're not in the
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mood or just want to skip tonight.
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Let's wait another night and three months pass by and you
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still haven't had sex with your spouse.
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The enemy is thriving. You're not.
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Your marriage isn't. Your spouse sure as heck isn't,
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and you gets to stop. I'm telling you what?
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Go have sex with your spouse. Stop making excuses.
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Just do it. I could go into all of the
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reasons as to why you should stop making excuses, but
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honestly, just have sex and you'll find out why.
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Like why you shouldn't withhold sex because it's not just a
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physical thing. It's a spiritual, mental,
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emotional thing when you have sex in a covenantal marriage
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with your spouse. And yes I said spouse because it
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goes both ways. Men and women withholding sex
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from their spouse. So anywho, get to win, Stop
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letting the enemy win. Have sex with your spouse.
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It is wild the lack of common sense we got going on in this
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universe. Of course you can say no to your
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spouse. That's not what I'm saying in
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this previous reel when your common answer is no to your
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spouse. That's withholding sex and you
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give zero reason as to why other than I'm just too tired.
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Oh, it's such a hard day. I just, I'm not in the mood,
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whatever your reasoning is. But your main reason slash, your
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main answer to your spouse wanting to be intimate with you
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is no. That is when it turns into
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sinful. That is when the enemy wins.
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That is when it is not healthy for you or your marriage or your
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spouse. And you need to address it.
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You need to sit on down and have some real raw conversations with
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your spouse as to what in the world is going on.
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And you got to make changes. So yes, you're allowed to say
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no. Nobody here is saying that you
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can't ever say no to your spouse.
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I would literally never say that.
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I say no to my spouse. I tell my husband, hey babe, not
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in the mood tonight. I'm so tired.
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But guess what? It's not my common answer.
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It's not the majority of the time.
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Let's just use our brains a little more.
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So I hate the patronising voice at the end.
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Morgan does this a lot. It's it's interesting.
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She she feels often like she really hates her audience.
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She often talks down to her audience.
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She's condescending, she acts like she hates her whole
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audience. And yet she still expects people
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to keep watching and consuming her to content, which is kind of
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impossible when she has such disdain for the people who are
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watching, you know? And it really annoys me because
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in this case, like her audience weren't concerned because they
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weren't using a common sense. Like she likes to mark.
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This wasn't just a matter of you saying, hey, I'm going to point
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out arguments 1-2 and three, but I accidentally missed out number
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four. So that before argument isn't
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really applicable here. This is because Morgan, she
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literally said every time they were her words.
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Every time you say no, the enemy wins.
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And that absolutely implies that it's never OK to say no.
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And even in her second video, she was still trying to quantify
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other people's feelings for them, which is just not OK.
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You know, she was saying things like, you can say no, but only
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if it's below X percent of the time.
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You can say no, but only if it's for reasons AB and C.
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But if it's for reasons DE and F, then you just have to suck it
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up and do it anyway. And like, you can't do that.
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You can't police other people's actions and feelings in that
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way. It's just not appropriate.
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The advice she's giving and the way she's trying to quantify
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this and like that says to other people's bodies is very
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dangerous and it is quite serious.
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I've said it before, but I'm going to keep repeating it.
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There is never a wrong reason to say no.
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There's never a set amount of, there's never a set amount of
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times you can say it before it stops being acceptable.
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You know, it's all about what is right for you and your partner.
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And if it's not right for you to say yes, then you don't have to.
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It's that simple. Now, I will say there are not
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necessarily exceptions to this, but there are nuances around the
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conversation, right? So for example, if you find
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yourself saying no more frequently than you used to,
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then maybe you need to take a look at what's affecting you and
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your sex drive. Is it something emotional?
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Is it something physical? Is there something going on with
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your hormones? Is there a problem in the
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relationship that you need to address?
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If in general terms, you and your partner have just vastly
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different sex drives, then maybe you need to sit down and have a
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discuss and have a discussion about what that means for the
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both of you and how you want it to work going forward or if you
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want it to work at all. There's lots of ways you can
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address this and find really, really helpful and useful
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solutions to this. However, just listening to
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someone like Morgan sitting there and saying every time you
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say no evil wins, that is just guilting people into performing
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sex acts that they don't want to do, it is coercion.
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It leads to rape, and that is never OK.
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So the people who are critiquing Morgan in these comment sections
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and things like that, they're not just not using common sense,
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they're just very concerned for you and the people who will
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listen to you because this advice is dangerous.
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There is no critical thinking anymore.
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And so anywho, there were just so many comments and it's fine.
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Like I have to realise when I decide to be unhinged that like
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people are literally going to despise me.
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Yeah. Me being unhinged.
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I do have to say it is nice to see that she is accepting this
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now. When you spread dangerous
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information you will get criticism, but based on the
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response she put out to it, it sounds like she hasn't actually
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accepted it. She's saying she has, but she
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clearly hasn't. It's it's a lot we.
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Should use our brains a little more.
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I just, I, I don't know, I don't know how I feel about this.
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Like, I think you guys know, I've had a really awful couple
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of years on the whole. I've had some wonderful stuff
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going on. Of course I have and I've done
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some wonderful product projects. But I've also had a lot of
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really crappy stuff going on. Most recently losing my Chira
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and four months before that dealing with her having a lot of
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very serious illnesses and seizures.
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And like the doctors suspected by the end it was a brain tumour
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that was causing it all. And it was, it was very
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difficult seeing the person you love most in the world suffering
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like that and dealing with it. And so I just feel like after
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all that crap I've been through, I've come out of the other side
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realising that there are so many more important things in the
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world to get upset about than what people online think about
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you, and that it's OK to not be liked by everyone.
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And I'm starting to feel more comfortable with that than I've
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ever been. And of course, there's still
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some things that upset me. And that's not to say I don't
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care what people think about me in general.
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Of course I do like you guys watching are like your views are
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very important to me and that I want to make content that is
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entertaining and educational for you.
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I want to like the comments I get from you guys and the
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messages I get from you. I can't reply to everyone
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because I definitely still struggle socially with that sort
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of thing. But when I see messages from you
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guys saying like hey, I've been watching for years and you
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really helped me going through this.
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Or like I took the advice you gave here on writing and put it
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into this exam or you know, things like that.
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Or I want to get a letter from an 80 year old woman who was
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like when I was younger, I never heard any of this stuff.
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And it was really nice to like see someone like explaining it
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to the younger generations. And this is what's new.
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And that stuff absolutely sticks with me.
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And that is important to me because that's the way I do
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this. I don't make these videos for
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me. I make it for the people
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watching to like hopefully elevate other people's voices
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and help people out and educate them and that sort of thing.
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So this is what I mean when I say like, I'm, I'm becoming more
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and more OK with people not liking me.
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I mean, obviously it still hurts sometimes when you hear some
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things, but I'm starting to like when, when I misunderstood.
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That's, that's sometimes a bit hard to deal with.
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But in general, like I think I've spoken before about
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there's, there's a content creator who I, I really liked
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her videos at 1st and she's like, portrays herself online as
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a feminist. And I'll say, hey, she's saying
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some good stuff here. And then over time, like it's
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become very clear that she does not like me at all.
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And I was like, oh, and that really hurt a bit.
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And she's, she's criticised me in quite a few videos for not
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being like a, a true feminist because I'm against, well, in
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general, I'm against rape porn and the romanticization of rape
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in literature and media in general.
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And she thinks that makes me not a real feminist.
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And, and for a while that really, really upset me.
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But then after everything I've been through recently, I've been
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like, well, you know what? I'm, I've spent a lot of time
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thinking about those values and what matters to me and coming to
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those conclusions. And I'm comfortable with that.
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And I feel like if someone doesn't like me because of it,
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then that's absolutely OK because I don't want approval
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from someone that I essentially think is spreading dangerous
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misinformation. You know, So I feel like what I
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care about what sorry, I'm rambling here.
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I'm rambling. It's, it's midnight.
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I'm going off on one here. Thank you for listening.
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But I feel like what I care about more is that I'm being
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true to myself, that I'm trying to be the best person I can be.
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That I'm trying my best to help people.
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I'm trying my best to entertain people.
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Hopefully. I don't know if you're still
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here. Thank you.
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And I feel like there's always going to be people who don't
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like me because in their eyes, like I say, I'm the wrong kind
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of feminist or because they automatically expect the worst
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of me for whatever reason, or they misinterpreted something
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I've said, or they, you know, maybe I, I said something with
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the wrong tone or things like that.
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That happens to me, you know, as an autistic woman, I still make
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those mistakes, but I feel like as long as I'm trying to be a
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good person and help people, I can walk away from unfair
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judgments without guilt these days.
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And I think that's been very helpful for my mental health.
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You know, that said, personal rumble aside, I don't think
21:09
that's necessarily what's happening with Morgan here.
21:12
There's a difference between what I get, which is things
21:14
like, you know, how dare you not support this convicted rapist,
21:17
you bitch. Yes, I'm looking at my Jack Den
21:19
small videos or Jack Denmo as he goes online and me being like,
21:24
well, I think you're wrong for supporting him, so I'm just
21:26
going to block you and walk away.
21:28
And what's happening with Morgan, which is like people
21:30
saying to her like, hey, I'm a little concerned because that
21:32
advice you gave could put people in danger and it kind of
21:35
suggests maybe you're in danger. Are you OK?
21:37
And her just being like, I always get this.
21:40
Why are people so bothered by this?
21:42
It's like, well, you know, people are generally bothered by
21:43
rape. You know, good, good people are
21:46
generally bothered by rape. Just saying.
21:48
And I feel so I feel like there's a difference.
21:52
You know, when you get criticism, you have to assess it
21:54
and be like, well, is this worth my time and energy?
21:57
Or are we just going to fundamentally disagree?
22:00
And in which case it's maybe better to just disengage and be
22:02
like, no, we're done? Or is it a case where you're
22:05
like, oh, yeah, you know what? They have a point.
22:07
I need to listen and learn here and improve because of it.
22:10
You need to assess that. And there are differences.
22:13
And I just feel like Morgan is ignoring the important stuff and
22:16
lumping any criticism as like not worth her time when in some
22:20
cases it is. I feel like I've rambled here,
22:22
sorry. Let's watch another clip.
22:24
Yeah, well, I think the issue is that when people see content on
22:28
social media they generally like, they take it as an affront
22:33
to them if they're not doing what it is you're talking about.
22:36
You know what I mean? So it could be, it could be
22:38
anything. You see it a lot in the mom
22:40
community, right? Like someone will post, you
22:42
know, what they're doing with their kid, and then someone will
22:44
comment on that post. OK, so because I'm not doing X
22:46
with my kid, I'm a horrible mom. And it's like, no, that's no one
22:49
saying that, Patricia. It's just I'm telling you I'm
22:53
and so I think that's true for your comment section too.
22:56
Just people aren't I don't know, I feel like they've I don't
23:00
know. It's crazy.
23:01
I just I if you don't like something, if you don't agree
23:03
with something. I truly cannot imagine being the
23:06
kind of person that is actually in someone else's comment
23:09
section arguing. Again, I do think Carl is mostly
23:13
talking sense here, and I mostly agree with her except in this
23:17
very particular circumstance. Because I think it's completely
23:20
normal to disagree with and call out someone saying you can't
23:24
ever say no to your spouse without evil winning.
23:26
I'm going to keep saying it. I think in a general sense she
23:30
has a point. In regards to this very specific
23:33
example, no. No, it's like.
23:35
I cannot imagine that because who has time for that?
23:39
Like to his mom but like also who has the mental capacity?
23:44
I know to. Do that like.
23:46
Hey, why don't you ask Morgan? She is always watching and
23:48
reading critical content about herself and making responses and
23:52
arguing with people. Like, literally all of the time.
23:56
It's no, it's not. And I would argue that it's just
23:59
not healthy. Like there's nothing healthy
24:01
about pouring yourself into a random stranger on the Internet.
24:06
Like just don't. Don't think so.
24:08
Absolutely. So maybe you should listen to
24:11
this Morgan. But I'm just like, it's so funny
24:14
because these people say these things so confidently and I'm
24:16
just like, none of these comments bother me because I
24:20
know the truth. And I'm like so confident in my
24:23
marriage and in my sex life with my husband and whatever else.
24:29
That's just like, they can say these goofy things and it just
24:32
does not bother me. Yeah, Yeah, you do.
24:34
You do sound really unbothered. And I'm freaking on my period
24:37
and I've about had it with the big freaking idiots.
24:40
Online. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, No,
24:43
Lauren, calm me down. But no, literally, if you're
24:54
getting your information from Reddit, baby, just shut it.
25:01
So anyhow, just here to tell you, you guys are a bunch of
25:05
idiots and I don't feel sorry for saying that.
25:08
I literally don't. So for the people who are going
25:11
to message me and be like, this isn't very Christ like, no, no,
25:16
there's no tell me. Can I just say it?
25:19
All I forgot the amount of people that do not like you and
25:24
Paul and I when I say that I just thought we were going to
25:28
drop like a fun podcast and like it was just going to be like so
25:31
unserious. Like that's genuinely what I
25:34
believed. And then to see some of the
25:37
comments, a whole response video.
25:40
That's insane. I told me that I was like
25:42
someone made a response video. The only reason I found it was
25:46
because I found out about it was because someone commented on our
25:49
video that like they found our video through that and you know,
25:52
whatever. Honestly, I think I would cry if
25:54
any of my friends said this to me.
25:55
Like I'd forgotten how much people hate that.
25:57
Oh no no, that's that's heartbreaking isn't it?
26:02
But seriously, how does Morgan not expect this by now?
26:05
She's been saying harmful stuff for long enough that she'd have
26:08
to know people will talk about her when she continues to do
26:11
that. She's got criticism for saying
26:13
these exact things before and now she keeps saying them and
26:17
she's shocked she still keeps getting criticism.
26:19
I as someone who does make these response videos to her and her
26:25
content, and I've spoken about Paul and Morgan a lot of the
26:27
last few years. I do it because I don't like
26:30
hearing harmful statements and misinformation going
26:33
unchallenged in general. And also sometimes gets a bit of
26:35
fun. But I mean, like if Morgan
26:38
suddenly changed up her content and was making, I don't know,
26:40
lemonade review, She likes lemonade.
26:42
I like lemonade. That's great.
26:43
If she was doing something completely harmless like that or
26:46
she was making craft videos or something, like I saw the other
26:48
week, she like painted some cute.
26:50
I say the other week, it's a couple of months back now, she
26:51
painted some cute picture or something like that's cute,
26:54
that's nice. If she started doing that,
26:56
there's nothing wrong with that and I don't think anyone would
26:58
criticise her. That would be nice, fun,
27:01
harmless content and no one would have a problem with it.
27:03
But it's when she keeps like, you know, advocating for marital
27:06
rape that people have issue with that.
27:07
And they're going to keep pointing it out.
27:09
But when you're making a podcast like this where you're making
27:12
content which body shames others, you could trigger other
27:15
people's eating disorders. You're calling people stupid and
27:18
crazy. You're telling them they can't
27:19
say no to their partners. You're shaming them for having a
27:22
different world view than you. That is dangerous stuff.
27:24
And of course it's going to be challenged this and again, I
27:28
can't bring her up, but it's such a relevant example.
27:31
This reminds me so much of Gabby Hannah when she was always like,
27:33
oh, the drama channels can't stop talking about me.
27:36
The drama channels won't leave me alone.
27:37
It's like, well, of course they won't.
27:39
When you're doing harmful stuff like going through like AI
27:42
psychosis and religious psychosis online potentially in
27:47
people's opinions and you're like shaming people for their
27:51
bodies and what they wear and not being modest enough.
27:54
And you're saying that people aren't Christian it and you're
27:56
like spreading transphobia and all this like nonsense stuff.
27:59
Like, of course people are going to call that out.
28:01
When she was just like doing stuff like teaching a dance
28:04
class or whatever, people were like, that was really cool, good
28:06
for her. And no one was really talking
28:08
about it. No one was criticising it.
28:10
Even I was like, hey, she's moved on, She's learned, she's
28:13
grown. This is amazing.
28:14
Like I, I forgive her for everything.
28:17
This is great. And then she came back calling
28:19
me like a stupid bitch again in interviews and I was like, if
28:23
you can't stop posting hateful content, of course people aren't
28:26
going to stop criticising it. If you switched it up and you're
28:29
doing regular harmless stuff, people wouldn't care.
28:32
If Morgan made a series of reviewing lemonades, no one
28:35
would care. I wouldn't be here talking about
28:36
it. What would I say?
28:38
Nothing. It would be fine, like I told
28:40
Garrett. I was like, I have to have some
28:42
serious boundaries around this because a, it's like, I
28:46
actually, there were a couple comments that heavily disagreed
28:48
with what we're talking about, but the way that they were
28:50
saying it, I was like, OK, I can actually, I can appreciate the
28:52
fact that like you took the time to tell me what you think and I,
28:56
I do like, I appreciate that. You know what credit?
28:58
Where it's due. I actually appreciate this and I
29:01
think it's a really mature response and I love that.
29:03
Wait, I didn't see. I I don't read the comments on
29:07
anything, basically. That's one way.
29:09
That's one boundary of mine. Yeah.
29:11
But I did scroll through some of the comments once after you told
29:14
me, like I waited like a week. And then I looked through the
29:17
comments on our first podcast episode and I saw someone that
29:20
was like, oh. What do you know?
29:23
A person, Oh my God, who has pronouns, Carl, who wants to be
29:28
called Carl, and you respect that.
29:32
Morgan, sorry. But none of us believe you don't
29:34
read the comments. Morgan is constantly responding
29:37
to comments, to Reddit posts, to everything.
29:39
She'll be like, oh, I saw this thing on Reddit and then make
29:42
like 7 Instagram videos about it like story, story, story, story
29:45
real story, story real like. And it's always like, well, I
29:48
never read the comments except this one time and then this one
29:51
time that she reads all the comments she does.
29:53
And I just think maybe Morgan needs to get off the Internet
29:57
for a little while. To be honest, I, I used to have
29:59
a real problem with it too. And I had a therapist who with
30:04
me, she basically called it digital self harm where she was
30:07
like, well, I realised I was doing a thing where like I would
30:10
scroll through my comments or I would look on Reddit or
30:12
something like that. And I wouldn't stop until I
30:14
found something like with people complaining about me or being
30:17
nasty about me or like saying awful things.
30:19
And then I get really upset about it.
30:21
I went to my therapist. I was like, why?
30:23
Why can I not stop doing this? Like I know I'm going to find
30:26
something horrible. Why can't I stop looking for it?
30:28
And, and it was actually really helpful talking through that
30:31
because she said it's like another form of self harm for
30:33
me. So sorry to bring this up and
30:36
this might be difficult for some people to hear, so please feel
30:38
free to skip ahead. But I, I used to have like a
30:42
problem with actual self harm, like really, really bad.
30:46
And she said that for me, kind of like looking up hip comments
30:50
online and not stopping until I found them was just another way
30:53
of doing that, of like kind of hurting myself and then needing
30:56
healing afterwards essentially. And when I realised that, I was
31:00
like, oh, this is something that I need to stop and work on
31:02
because it's not healthy. It's not helping me.
31:05
And yeah, I do a lot of work in therapy to overcome that.
31:08
And it's been really helpful. Now I don't look up that stuff
31:10
if I can help it. And I definitely don't go
31:13
searching my name anywhere. That's can't deal with that
31:16
anymore and comments are still a little bit hard because
31:18
sometimes you still find them and it if you're having like a
31:21
bad day, even like a a mundane thing can really set you off.
31:25
But I'm trying to try to manage that still.
31:27
It's hard. I don't know, sorry, I'm going
31:29
off topic here. Keep talking about myself.
31:30
I'm so sorry. Anyway, then they move on to
31:33
their hot take for the week, which is like a thing they do In
31:36
each of these episodes. Carl talks about crunchy
31:39
influencers telling people to buy a bunch of expensive stuff.
31:42
And for once, I agree with her. I think she makes a really good
31:44
point here. I think as a society we do
31:47
consume way too much stuff and there is already so much content
31:49
online about like hey, buy this, buy this, buy this.
31:53
It's just it's not great for the environment.
31:54
So I don't actually disagree with her here and I think it's
31:57
good that she brought this up. The whole crunchy lifestyle
32:00
isn't for me. But I do absolutely support the
32:02
critique of overconsumption. And this is something I've
32:05
spoken about a little bit on like some Instagram videos and
32:07
over on my second channel. But I've been on like a real low
32:10
buy for the last 18 months, trying to reduce what I'm buying
32:13
and how much of it. Like if I get books, I do try
32:15
and get them second hand and I don't try and get them as often
32:17
as I used to. Clothes I generally try to buy
32:20
second hand and there's been a couple of exceptions, like a
32:23
really nice dress here and there.
32:24
I'm going to Barcelona this weekend for my friends hen party
32:29
and so I bought a couple of nice dresses for that.
32:30
On the whole, I'm definitely trying to reduce what I'm buying
32:33
and reduce over consumption. And and yeah, it's been it's
32:37
been really nice, actually really good.
32:39
Anyway, sorry off top again. I keep talking about myself.
32:41
I'm so sorry. Tell me to show up in the
32:43
comments if you need to. But there is some irony though,
32:46
because listen to this and it would feel.
32:49
Less disingenuous if they, yeah, weren't making money off of it.
32:52
But because I know you're making money off of it, I'm like, no, I
32:56
don't really want to buy like which I have nothing.
32:59
Against affiliate links to you. I have some affiliate stuff like
33:03
whatever, but yeah, if it's like you can't live a truly clean
33:09
life without these products, use my code to get $100 off your
33:13
5000. Dollars.
33:15
This is hilarious. To me, considering just two
33:17
podcast episodes ago Morgan was going on and on about her $1200
33:22
flour mill that she got gifted by a brand and how everyone
33:25
needs to get one just like her, I found that so funny.
33:29
Anyway, this is Carl's actual hot take if there is a person.
33:33
In your life, that is like actively disrespecting your
33:38
spouse. They're out the door.
33:40
They are out of the door. OK, you know what?
33:42
I. Do think there are some nuanced
33:44
discussions that could be really interesting to have here.
33:47
I think there are certain things that obviously you shouldn't
33:50
tolerate people saying about people you love, right?
33:53
Like, I've heard people make racist comments about my
33:56
partners in the past and things like that.
33:57
And I've immediately been like, whoa, yeah, let's not do that.
34:00
And then, you know, been, like, I'm done with this conversation,
34:04
done with you. Like, you obviously want to,
34:06
like, jump in there and say things like that.
34:08
However, I think there's nuance to this when we're talking about
34:11
fundies in particular and certain other groups, because I
34:15
think there are things that they might label as disrespectful
34:18
that maybe aren't. So for example, if a friend of
34:21
yours is concerned and pointing out that your partner is
34:24
behaving in a way which is abusive, I know for a fact some
34:27
fundies like Morgan would say that that this is that person
34:32
being disrespectful to their partner.
34:34
And then they would blame the person who was saying that stuff
34:36
and be mad at that friend. But honestly I'd say this is
34:39
probably just them being a good friend and looking out for you.
34:41
But let's wait and see where she goes with this, because I think
34:44
this is a topic with many possible angles to discuss
34:47
context. Is context is my my husband and
34:51
I, well, my husband had a couple of friends.
34:54
They're older. They're not like old, but they
34:56
were older and he's been in relationship with them for a
35:01
really, really long time before. I entered.
35:04
The picture and after I entered the picture, they were nice to
35:08
me, but they weren't like super, super friendly.
35:11
And it's just become clearer through like different life
35:15
stages we've entered, whether it's marriage or giving birth,
35:19
that that is just kind of like heightened.
35:21
And there will be just things that are said that are just kind
35:26
of like underhanded, like at me. And my husband, who is thinks
35:30
like the best of everyone at any given time will say things to
35:35
me. It's like, I don't think that
35:37
that was right or that didn't sit well with me.
35:38
So I know it's not just like a meeting.
35:40
Yes. OK, so this is where I have a.
35:42
Little bit more of a problem because I think this might be a
35:44
topic where it's just an excuse for Carl to moan about some
35:48
people in her real life that she doesn't like rather than have an
35:50
actual nuance discussion. Which is a shame, but.
35:54
Before we go any. Further, I will say it's OK to
35:58
not actively like everyone all the time.
36:01
I think it's OK to, for example, not like some of your partner's
36:04
friends and for them to not like you.
36:06
By which I mean like, I'm not saying like if you dislike each
36:09
other that and that could be a bit of a problem.
36:11
But I mean, you don't need to be besties with everyone.
36:14
You don't need to be like, Oh my God, this.
36:16
I want to hang out with them all the time.
36:18
You don't need that. It's OK if you wish to have
36:20
separate friends. It really is.
36:22
I think it's just part of being an adult to be able to say like,
36:25
hey, you know what, you guys seem nice enough, but like,
36:27
maybe we don't just gel in this way.
36:29
And like, you guys do your thing.
36:31
I'll do my thing with my friends.
36:33
We'll be polite when we see each other.
36:34
But we don't, we don't need to be besties.
36:36
And I think that's completely fine.
36:37
You don't need to force something that isn't there.
36:40
Obviously there's a difference if like people are actively
36:42
disliking you and being mean or nasty, that's obviously
36:45
different. But yeah, so I mean, I just
36:47
think there's there's new ones to all this, isn't there?
36:50
I do see, like, some red flags in Carl's story.
36:53
So, like, her and her husband noticing these friends making
36:55
underhand comments. Yeah.
36:57
If that's completely accurate, then I don't think that's OK at
36:59
all. And I think she's right to be
37:00
upset by that. That is definitely something
37:03
your husband should speak to his friends about.
37:05
Or like, you should bring up with them and be like, hey, I'm
37:07
not OK with this. You're making me uncomfortable.
37:09
And however, I don't really think it's something that
37:12
necessarily needs discussing in a public forum like this in such
37:16
a way when it when it's still like fresh and new as well.
37:19
I mean, like, what if their friends see this and this is
37:21
their first time hearing about this and they're like, oh God,
37:23
she's just like, you know, brought this up to thousands of
37:26
people and not us. Like I feel like that's not
37:28
necessarily something you can recover and come back from.
37:30
Whereas if you said to them like, Hey, these comments make
37:33
me a little uncomfortable. Can we talk about it, please?
37:35
Or can you maybe stop that? I think there would be a way
37:37
because maybe they play awkward songs.
37:39
We didn't realise. We're so sorry.
37:40
Let's change and make this better.
37:42
And there's there's a way you can come back from that and
37:44
build a relationship. But this putting in online to
37:46
thousands of people, maybe not, I don't know.
37:49
I just I feel like Carl has some good points and some not so good
37:52
points, but it's impossible to say if I agree with her in this
37:55
very particular specific circumstance, because I wasn't
37:59
there. I don't know the details.
38:00
None of us do. No, because when they're.
38:01
Disrespecting. There's the spouse.
38:04
They're disrespecting them like you guys are 1.
38:07
So no goodbye, yeah. Yeah, I think the Morgan always
38:12
has to take. Things too far though, doesn't
38:13
she? Of course she does And and she
38:16
always has to take it to a weird place, doesn't she?
38:18
So like 1 I didn't need to hear her squeaking in this, I just
38:21
didn't 2 Why do you have to make this about you?
38:24
I said why do you have to make this about you?
38:26
I say I have to talk about myself for half this video.
38:28
But like if you were in a couple, you're still
38:31
individuals, you know, you're not one, you're still 2 separate
38:36
people. And if someone insulted my
38:37
partner, I'd be sad and angry about how they were treated and
38:41
how my partner was feeling about it and how it might hurt them.
38:44
But it has nothing to do with me and my feelings.
38:47
I don't get hurt because my partner's hurt.
38:49
All my focus is on how they feel and making them feel better, not
38:53
on myself. You know, if someone insults
38:55
them or hurts them, my focus is on them.
38:58
They're the important one is not about me.
39:00
So in that case, it's just kind of bizarre to me that this is
39:02
immediately where Morgan jumps like, oh, if someone did this to
39:05
them, then I'm hurt too. It's just feels a little
39:08
selfish, I'll be honest. And but you, it's interesting
39:12
because with stuff like this, you can tell she's never been
39:14
independent in her life. She doesn't know how to be alone
39:18
and she doesn't know how to be happy alone, you know?
39:21
Morgan then wants to share her juicy story about her experience
39:24
with something like this. And again, it just feels like
39:27
I'm watching kids or teenagers gossip and it's a little bit
39:30
uncomfortable. And I keep thinking, what if the
39:32
people she's talking about are watching now?
39:34
And I just feel a bit bad for them, you know?
39:36
I am going to cut out some of the more gossipy and mean girl
39:38
bits of this and just try and show you the main content of the
39:41
story, like the main meat of it, you know?
39:43
Well, I feel like. Is there anything?
39:45
Oh, I got a story to tell. You.
39:47
But at first I yes, I have a juicy story.
39:51
Well, OK. Speaking of cutting.
39:54
People out of your life who disrespect your spouse?
39:57
No. There was this years ago, there
40:00
was this guy. There was this guy who Paul had
40:04
connected with. So Paul and this guy connect and
40:09
this guy is like very artsy, very creative.
40:12
He has somewhat of a following online and it's just known for
40:17
like being like a worship leader guy.
40:21
Not totally sure where he was plugged in at church at that
40:24
point in time when I don't honestly I don't even know how
40:27
Paul met him. But they connect and he comes
40:31
over to our house and he like I guess somehow knew that I was a
40:34
worship leader. And he like starts talking to me
40:37
about wanting to do some worship stuff.
40:39
And basically, like, almost immediately, I got a weird vibe
40:43
from him of like, it feels like you used your connection with
40:48
Paul to like, just get to me. And then like every interaction
40:52
after that, he was like super just disrespectful to Paul.
40:56
Like talked down to him. Would like tell Paul to shut up,
41:00
like in a joking way, and Paul's there.
41:03
I did. Go through a phase where I also
41:05
used to say shut up to Paul. And I remember was it?
41:10
I think you brought it up to me. Maybe you were like, maybe you
41:13
don't, you know? And at the time I thought, that
41:17
is so silly. And then I got married to a man
41:21
and he was like, yeah, I mean, it's fine.
41:24
It's not the end of the world. But like, I don't necessarily
41:27
appreciate it. So being told to shut.
41:29
Up. Yeah, totally.
41:31
You know, normally I wouldn't. Say this about just anyone after
41:34
hearing this story, but knowing what we know about Paul, I'm
41:37
pretty sure he is the problem here.
41:40
Just just an inkling I have. This guy is like a worship
41:45
leader or whatever, right? I reckon he probably knows a
41:48
decent amount of what he's talking about in regards to the
41:51
Bible and just general Christian stuff if you will.
41:55
We know from Paul's last nine years or whatever of content.
41:58
910 years, I don't know. And that he often does talk out
42:03
of his bum, to put it politely. He often misquotes the Bible.
42:07
He doesn't necessarily know specific passages that he's
42:09
referring to. He does interpret things in not
42:13
necessarily the most accurate way.
42:16
He is just often incorrect. And yet he talks and talks and
42:20
talks like he has this authority and is correct.
42:23
I know it's I know that it's infuriating to listen to him
42:27
when he's like this. So I can't say I blame this guy,
42:31
this worship leader, or call for telling Paul to shut up.
42:35
Just just saying you would just like.
42:37
Belittle Paul and talk to him in such like a lame way.
42:40
And I immediately recognised it and was like immediately telling
42:45
Paul like, yeah, I don't have great feelings about this guy.
42:49
Like I don't really want to want anything to do with him.
42:52
And one day me and Paul and a group of friends and this guy
42:57
all went out to dinner and we're sitting there and I don't
43:01
remember exactly what happened, but Paul, he is like 10 years
43:08
older than this guy too, maybe 12, I don't even know.
43:10
So this was a younger dude, yes. But this younger dude really
43:15
like felt like he was super wise.
43:20
You know, he's one of those guys.
43:21
He just felt he was so spirit. Really embarrassing to be that
43:24
person. It really is.
43:27
I've been that person. Before so I do think I can say
43:29
that, you know, it's like so. Embarrassing is the worst.
43:34
Yeah. So he thought he was just super
43:36
spiritually mature and deep and whatever.
43:38
So anyhow, we're sitting there at dinner and we're sitting
43:42
across from him and he is, like talking to Paul.
43:45
And he, like, said something just like so rude.
43:48
I don't even totally remember what it was.
43:51
He was just like the way he spoke to Paul.
43:53
And so he says all this. I don't even know what to Paul
43:58
and I just like set my pizza down and I just look at him and
44:02
go, little boy, you need to stop talking right now.
44:09
Hit him with the little. Boy he was.
44:12
A short guy too. I really hit him where it hurt.
44:17
Double So what I'm hearing here. Is that you thought someone was
44:19
mean? So instead of being a mature
44:21
adult and saying hey that's a bit disrespectful can you please
44:24
stop? You decided to resort to
44:26
childish bullying and name calling and insults about his
44:29
appearance. I'm sorry if I'm not on your
44:31
side with this. I think there's maybe a time and
44:34
a place for being petty back but I don't know.
44:38
This just feels immature for me. I mean I don't know, maybe I'd
44:42
have done the same as a back in my early 20s when I was also
44:48
more immature and didn't really have much emotional
44:51
intelligence. But now I don't know.
44:54
Maybe again I'm just too old but I just.
44:55
I don't find this funny or helpful and I'm not sure.
44:59
It's like a ha ha ha, I'm going to laugh about this thing.
45:02
I don't know. I don't know.
45:04
But I was like. You're so disrespectful to my
45:07
husband and I am sick of it. You're not going to talk to him
45:10
this way anymore. We're done.
45:11
We're done with this and my sweet, kind, loving husband has
45:14
allowed you to talk to him that way and I'm over it.
45:17
I will not listen to you talk trash to him.
45:19
I will not listen to you disrespect him again.
45:22
You need to respect your elder son.
45:25
It was everyone. There were like 10 people at the
45:27
table and they were like, they all paused and were looking at
45:31
me and looking at him. And he's just like sitting there
45:34
like. And finally, one of the other
45:38
guys at the table goes OK, like, I think we're good.
45:41
I think we can move on from this conversation.
45:43
I was like, no, no, no, I'm not done.
45:45
Yeah, you know what? Generally sticking up for your
45:47
partner, telling someone they're being disrespectful, asking them
45:50
to stop, fine. But the rest and saying things
45:53
like respect your eldest son is just a lot to me and the story
45:58
is exhausting to listen to. Like I say, I think I'm too old
46:01
for this nonsense. Don't be disrespecting.
46:03
My spouse, I will come after you.
46:06
Yeah, yeah. I think that that's, Oh no, I
46:09
will. Happily disrespect Paul all day
46:12
Until he learns to be a decent human being and stops being
46:15
racist, transphobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and learns to
46:19
actually treat people with kindness, I'm not going to go
46:21
out of my way to treat him with more than a basic level of human
46:24
decency. I don't wish him harm,
46:27
obviously, unlike he does to other people, but I'm also more
46:31
than happy to say that I do not like him and I do not have any
46:34
respect for his views, his opinions, or his actions of the
46:37
last few years. Simple as that.
46:39
You know, it's fine with Morgan. Like if she wants to come for
46:41
me, she can do, but do what you want.
46:44
It's funny. And Paul and Morgan have
46:46
responded to like other people and critics in the past, but
46:49
they never have done with me. The most I've got is they're
46:51
like, there's this girl who makes videos.
46:55
I can't believe it. And then they just leave at
46:58
that, which is always like, it makes me laugh because I'm like
47:00
1, not a girl. I'm a grown woman.
47:02
I'm an adult. Let's let's acknowledge that.
47:06
And two, they never actually refute anything I critique them
47:09
for. They're just like, Oh my God, I
47:10
can't believe she's talking about us.
47:13
So, yeah, it's kind of boring. Anyway, Carl, trust me.
47:20
Reasonable here and say that Morgan was just setting a strong
47:23
boundary. And I do think that if that's
47:26
what she was doing, I'd commend it.
47:28
You know, I I will absolutely always advocate for people
47:31
setting boundaries. Not tolerate, not tolerating
47:35
people treating them or their loved ones badly, but I think
47:38
you can do that without resorting to name calling and
47:41
insulting someone's appearance and then laughing about it
47:43
publicly afterwards, years afterwards as well.
47:46
You know, I yeah, I don't agree with that.
47:49
You need to be. Like in public, in front of
47:52
other people, you need to be humble.
47:54
That's again. There's.
47:56
Setting boundaries and then there's this.
47:59
I don't agree with trying to humble people and rubbish like
48:02
that. Like it just comes across as
48:04
mean and like you'll think and like you think you're better
48:07
than these people. And I'm I'm not OK with that.
48:10
And advocate for yourself, but not by being condescending to
48:14
others. I don't think that's too much to
48:16
ask for anyway. Then we go back to Carl's story
48:18
of why she feels disrespected by her husband's friends.
48:20
It just confuses me a bit. Someone.
48:23
There was a comment that was made about the fact that Elijah
48:28
and my baby, he said Mama 1st and he just says Mama, Mama,
48:31
Mama. And this person, when we were
48:34
telling this person that they were like, how hard did you have
48:39
to work to get him to say that? Basically insinuating that like,
48:42
I like, you know, really, really cared that he said everything.
48:47
Garrett cut it. And he was like, because I've
48:49
told Garrett, I'm like, I've kind of reached my limit.
48:50
Like I'm this close. I'm this close.
48:54
OK, OK. Maybe maybe this is just because
48:57
I'm not a mum to a human being, but I don't understand or see
49:01
the disrespect. But I don't understand or see
49:05
the disrespect here. They're just asking how long it
49:07
took your kid to learn something I don't like.
49:10
Again, maybe this is the autism in me speaking.
49:13
I don't see how that's a dig. Maybe I'm picking it too
49:15
literally. I don't know.
49:17
Like when I have my Chira and she obviously she was a dog, but
49:21
she was my daughter, you know, and she would do tricks and
49:23
stuff. And some people would be, oh,
49:25
you know, she'd be really well behaved on like walks and she'd
49:27
always stop at the crossings and stuff like that.
49:29
And whenever I had issues with like my voice and my throat and
49:33
not being able to speak properly, we learned to
49:35
communicate with hand signals and stuff.
49:36
She was fantastic at that. Really, really good girl, which
49:39
also got helpful as she got shoulder and start to lose her
49:41
hearing because she couldn't always hear me.
49:43
But we could always like do the hand signals and stuff.
49:45
And we used to have a thing where like I would tap her lead
49:47
in a certain way to get her attention and do the hand
49:49
signal. Anyway, she was a beautiful,
49:51
very, very smart, incredibly clever girl.
49:54
She was wonderful. And it's so nice I can talk
49:56
about her now without just immediately bursting into tears.
49:59
And but anyway, when she were doing these things, sometimes
50:01
she would ask, oh, how long did it take her to learn that?
50:03
How did you train her to do this?
50:05
And sometimes, you know, I'd help my friends and neighbours
50:07
with training their dogs and stuff like that and they'd be
50:09
like, oh, wow, like how'd you do that?
50:10
How long did it take? In my, my experience, that's
50:15
just them being genuinely curious and interested, right?
50:19
And trying to, like, learn about you and your little 1, isn't it?
50:25
I don't, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.
50:28
And yeah, again, maybe I'm, maybe I'm taking this too
50:31
literally. I just, I don't see how that
50:33
comment is worth this whole podcast run so publicly to
50:37
thousands of people. I don't know.
50:38
Maybe there's more to this that she's not repeating.
50:41
I don't know. Again, we weren't there.
50:43
We can't say. But Carl then goes on a several
50:46
minute long run about how a person ran their trolley into
50:48
hers at Whole Foods and she had to unpack it all with her
50:51
therapist. Is this not just one of the most
50:54
like tone deaf middle class 1st world problems that you've heard
50:59
in a while? It is for me, so let's just
51:02
ignore it and move on. Call the NC episode by
51:05
complaining about how they have a low rating on Spotify and how
51:07
it must be the haters. Another thing I noticed.
51:10
About the haters, Oh no. On Spotify, no they didn't.
51:14
They like there must be. People giving it like one star
51:16
reviews because it's got like a 2.9 and there are only like 90
51:20
people that have like room to 9. People.
51:24
So like that, that does mean that like anyways, it's just
51:28
really funny, like when people got another way word.
51:30
It really is. Why?
51:31
But it's funny, you know? Spotify actually has a rule
51:33
where you have to actually, actually listen to the podcast
51:36
for a substantial amount of time before you're allowed to review
51:39
it. So clearly this isn't just
51:40
people like clicking on it and being like, oh, I'm going to
51:42
give it a low rating for the fun of it.
51:44
Like it's actually people who've consumed the content and formed
51:47
an opinion. No, I don't know.
51:49
I don't know if you want to give it a one.
51:51
Star baby girl. Go ahead for it, Honey Boo Boo.
51:55
Living in your granny's basement.
51:57
And again. This is the final thing we're
51:58
going to talk about, but we've been over this.
52:01
Most of the people who criticise Morgan are just regular adults
52:03
with decent lives who make decent points and comments like
52:07
this just make you seem like a bit of a mean girl.
52:11
But yeah, I did look up their podcast on Spotify and at the
52:13
time of writing the script, which was also a little while
52:15
ago now, they were down to a two star rate in with 65 reviews.
52:20
So that's fun for them. You know, I'm going to look it
52:22
up now because it's been a while since I wrote this script.
52:25
I'm oh God, so sorry. I've been juggling so many
52:27
projects at the minute and so many different videos and big
52:29
videos too. So it's taken me a while to
52:31
actually get around to filming, especially because I'm having to
52:34
film at night while I'm staying with my parents because I've, so
52:36
I've been, as I've said to a few of you in a few videos, trying
52:42
to buy, Well, I said a house at first, I'm actually trying to
52:44
buy a flat. And so that means I'm saving up
52:48
the very last bit of my deposit and not having like £1000 in.
52:51
Well, it's close to 1100 by the time I left.
52:54
Not having that in rent to pay every month is really, really
52:58
helping. So my parents have been absolute
53:00
angels there. So I'm just saving up the very
53:02
last bit of my deposit now and I'm looking at flats.
53:05
And then, yeah, it's going, it's going quite well.
53:08
It's very exciting and I'm very nervous about it.
53:10
But I found some really nice places in Leeds City centre that
53:13
I'd really like. And it's like close to the train
53:15
station really good. I, I am struggling a bit though.
53:17
I found one flat that I loved and it was perfect.
53:20
It was 2 bedrooms and I was like, oh, the balcony is
53:22
gorgeous and this is great. Let me just like look at where
53:25
it is because I was, I was ready to be like, let's get a booking
53:28
in like, sorry, let's book a viewing to see this because it
53:30
was so good. And then I looked it up and I
53:32
realised it was in the building that my ex lives.
53:34
And I was like, oh, maybe not, Yeah, I'd rather not Come on
53:40
Spotify, advise your search not working.
53:42
Here we go. Sorry, I keep going off on
53:44
tangents. I I haven't seen people in like
53:46
a week at this point. So I'm just using this as an
53:49
excuse to chat. I'm sorry.
53:50
I mean, I've seen people with this, my parents and like the
53:53
people working on the tills in Tesco.
53:54
So OK, we now have 73 ratings and it's still on 2.0 stars.
54:00
So that's a shame. I you know, they're still doing
54:04
the kind of like weird click bait titles are like, you know,
54:10
they always complain about, like they complain about people on
54:13
Instagram and stuff like not being modest enough and blah,
54:15
blah, blah. And they're not so funny because
54:17
like, you know, I had an issue before about like one of their
54:20
titles people, the last one, their titles being high rise
54:22
panty girls in a low rise jeans world.
54:25
And how like maybe don't be like we're so modest and godly when
54:28
you're calling yourselves panty girls, you know, suddenly
54:31
getting worse than After Dark and bikini karaoke.
54:35
Like they know what they're doing.
54:37
They know what they're trying to do.
54:38
It's a little hypocritical. Anyway, if you'd like me to keep
54:42
reviewing these, I will do. I've not seen any of the three
54:44
episodes or written anything about them, so if you want to
54:47
carry on with this I will. Like I say, it's just like quite
54:49
nice to do something fun and snarky.
54:51
And even though some of the topics are quite serious, like
54:53
the marital rape, in general, these are easier, faster videos
54:59
to film. And yeah, it's just nice to have
55:02
something like that's a little shorter and more digestible.
55:04
So if you would like to see more, please let me know down in
55:06
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