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Hour 2 – No Call, Bad Call? · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: Shaka Laca. It's our number two out number two, and
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Speaker 1: we are ready for you here in hour number two.
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Speaker 1: You make the call. Is the NBA covering up for
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Speaker 1: a bad no call at the end of that Cleveland
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Speaker 1: Detroit game call from the officials that hurt the Pistons
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Speaker 1: and helped Cleveland out before overtime. The NBA ruled that
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Speaker 1: the officials got it right. We have some other opinions
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Speaker 1: on that. Also. How do Adam Silver's plans for flat
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Speaker 1: odds and the draft lotteries sound to you? And we
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Speaker 1: move over to the NFL. Sean McVay was apparently not
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Speaker 1: upset with the rams Ty Simpsons pick the quarterback. Instead,
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Speaker 1: he was annoyed with the gm less snead over a
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Speaker 1: different issue. So how does that land on your end?
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about all that and more as we twist
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Speaker 1: in the wind. And we also have the third degree
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Speaker 1: with our friend Bree here in our number two. Do
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Speaker 3: Be.
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Speaker 1: And we were back at it. So normally there's an
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Speaker 1: ebb and flow here this time of the year, the
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Speaker 1: NBA Playoffs going on. I was like, okay, so this's
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Speaker 1: got to be a game.
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Speaker 4: No.
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Speaker 1: But a tremendous job by lebron James and Bronnie James,
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Speaker 1: the first ever father son duo to be swept out
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Speaker 1: of the playoff. Congratulations boys, good job by you Lakers.
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Speaker 1: Another pathetic season of Laker basketball as they continue to
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Speaker 1: be incompetent. And now I'm not gonna go on a
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Speaker 1: rand here about that. I was actually planning on talking
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Speaker 1: about the hockey. Don't tell anybody. So I flipped on
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Speaker 1: the Ducks and that team from Vegas that should be
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Speaker 1: named like the slot Machines instead their name the Knights
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Speaker 1: or whatever. So I flipped that on, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: all right, you know, listen, it's rare and appropriate. I
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Speaker 1: can probably squeeze in a hockey monologue. And it was
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Speaker 1: such a dog food game in terms of competition. It
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Speaker 1: was three nothing Vegas I think by the other one
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Speaker 1: five to one or whatever. So there's nothing really to
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Speaker 1: talk about. There's no good talk radio in that. We're
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Speaker 1: happy for our guy towards the Golden Knights. Did not
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Speaker 1: suck at a time you cannot suck, so we're happy
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Speaker 1: for that. And they advanced. But our lead this hour,
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Speaker 1: since there was no basketball, our lead from the way
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Speaker 1: back machine the end. I actually watched this game on
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Speaker 1: the plane on the way back. Sometimes. I've noticed flying
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Speaker 1: more recently that they often advertise hey, free Wi Fi,
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Speaker 1: free TV on the plane, and it's about a fifty
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Speaker 1: to fifty proposition depending on what airline that crap actually works.
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Speaker 1: But this flight actually did have the TV stuff on
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Speaker 1: this We were to watch the game, and I watched
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Speaker 1: the every second the NBA game the other night, and
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Speaker 1: so the story Stilles legs today. So the NBA said
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Speaker 1: that the officials were correct in not calling a clear
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Speaker 1: and obvious foul on Jared Allen in the closing seconds
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Speaker 1: of regulation of Game five the other night the Cavaliers
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Speaker 1: and Pistons in Motown, Cleveland, they're going to win the
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Speaker 1: game again went to overtime. The reason it went to
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Speaker 1: overtime there was a no call on Jared Allen, who
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Speaker 1: made contact with sar Thompson of the Pistons. The Pistons
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Speaker 1: guard was going for a loose ball and that led
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Speaker 1: to the drama o rama in the final seconds of
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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. JB. Bickerstaff, the spawn of Bernie, ripped
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Speaker 1: the call. He said that allan obviously biased alan fouled
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Speaker 1: us are clearly, according to JB. Bickerstaff, he tripped him
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Speaker 1: when he was going for loose ball. So did you
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Speaker 1: see all the fallout on this baby? Now? So the league,
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Speaker 1: via the last two minute report, which is kind of
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Speaker 1: like the Holy Bible unless it's not. So they disagreed, shockingly,
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Speaker 1: saying that Allan Jared Allen and Asar Thompson that they
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Speaker 1: legally stepped on at the same spot while pursuing the
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Speaker 1: loose ball before either player had possession and both lose
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Speaker 1: their balance from the marginal contact. It read essentially nothing
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Speaker 1: to see here. So that is a good jumping off point.
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Speaker 1: Let us discuss the question you make the call. Is
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Speaker 1: the NBA covering up for a bad no call from
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Speaker 1: the officials that hurt the Pistons or were they right
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Speaker 1: to not make the call there? So I've got recall up,
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Speaker 1: brain rot and janitorial staff, and we will combine all
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Speaker 1: of these things together and we are going to be
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Speaker 1: armed and dangerous. Now we always start with number all right,
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Speaker 1: So just again hold your hand and I'll kind of
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Speaker 1: walk here. So it's a tie game at this point.
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Speaker 1: The clock's winding down. There's about less than two seconds left,
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Speaker 1: two seconds or left, and Asar Thompson is in prime
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Speaker 1: position to be the hero. He strips Spider Mitchell, who
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Speaker 1: played a lot like James Hard. James Hard actually played
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Speaker 1: okay the last couple of games, and we's due for
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Speaker 1: a couple of duds, so it's not over for the Pistons.
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Speaker 1: But the point is that the play was made by
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Speaker 1: Thompson to get the strip of Mitchell, and then the
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Speaker 1: situation sing happened. Jared Allen's right foot clearly took out
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Speaker 1: Assar Thompson's legs. There's no ifs, hands or butts about it.
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Speaker 1: Any reasonable human being would say that is a tech
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Speaker 1: book trip in real time. Now, instead of the bonus
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Speaker 1: and a trip to the line, we got situational blindness
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Speaker 1: from the Zebras. And then what happened after this was
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Speaker 1: a recall La moment. The NBA referee swallowed the whistle
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Speaker 1: so hard on this one that they're going to need
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Speaker 1: a throat lozenge and an X ray to examine what happened.
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Speaker 1: That you can't trip a guy in a tie game
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Speaker 1: and have the league pretend that it was just some
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Speaker 1: kind of weird yoga stretch. And watching Jared Allen's body language,
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Speaker 1: it looked like that wasn'n intentional, Like he knew he
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Speaker 1: could get away with it, and he did get away
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Speaker 1: with it. He did get away with it. The Cleveland player,
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Speaker 1: Jared Allen, he knew he was gonna get away. But
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Speaker 1: this is the NBA doing damage control because they hate
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Speaker 1: even though they have to do this for gayzy two
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Speaker 1: minute report, last two minutes of the game report. They
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Speaker 1: hate admitting the real obvious mistakes. They're tripping over their
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Speaker 1: own to protect the brand. Reflex kicked in the replay
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Speaker 1: showed a blatant trip. Even blind Emmett, who doesn't call
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Speaker 1: the show anymore, the old Seahawk fan. He's he's, she
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Speaker 1: could see it, blind Em. The league's official statement was
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Speaker 1: just a pathetic shrug, all right, just a shrug. Are
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Speaker 1: Jerry and Rhode Island songs. The Pistons got kicked in
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Speaker 1: the nuts by the NBA. They basically said, play on Fellas,
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Speaker 1: which is unbelievable that you could just allow in the
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Speaker 1: last two seconds, okay, where we've lost the ball, the
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Speaker 1: Pistons are about to get the ball, and the Pistons
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Speaker 1: are in the bonus, we're gonna allow Cleveland to kick,
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Speaker 1: to clearly kick the Detroit player. It's ridiculous.
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Speaker 5: Right.
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, to Ping Pong City, where is that? Well, that
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Speaker 1: would be in New York. He commissioner Adam Silver, saying
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Speaker 1: recently the NBA's goal with the draft lottery is to
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Speaker 1: create a system of flat odds. According to Adam Silver
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Speaker 1: from somewhere far away outside the Milky Way galaxy, although
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Speaker 1: it's conceivable Silver is part of the group of aliens
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Speaker 1: that live in the waters Pacific Atlantic, you name it anyway.
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Speaker 1: The quote from Adam Silver, he said, there's even something
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Speaker 1: we're calling draft relegation. He said, well, I love that.
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Speaker 1: When I hear that, I get a little excited. Relegation.
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Speaker 1: That's the one thing they really get, right our friends
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Speaker 1: in Europe that we don't have here in American sport
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Speaker 1: is relegation. So he said, there there's even something we're
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Speaker 1: calling draft relegation. The commissioner said that if you're one
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Speaker 1: of the bottom three teams in the league, you're actually
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Speaker 1: having worse odds than teams that sort of our fourth
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Speaker 1: through up until the teams that make the playoffs. He ran,
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Speaker 1: so essentially anywhere from the fourth worst team to the
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Speaker 1: team that just missed the playoffs, that that'd be about
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Speaker 1: the same. They say they're still tweaking it, they're still
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Speaker 1: futzing around with it, and all that. The question, how
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Speaker 1: do Adam Silver's plans for the flat odds? I don't
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Speaker 1: say the lottery was the other day we were away,
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Speaker 1: But how well the Adam Silver plans for flat odds
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Speaker 1: in the NBA's draft lottery sound to you, all right?
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Speaker 1: So Adam Silver's plan here for the flat odds in
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Speaker 1: the lottery, it sounds great in theory. It's one of
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Speaker 1: these things that in theory sounds really good. Unfortunately, the
10:18
Speaker 1: NBA lives in the land of unintended consequences. The analytical
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Speaker 1: crowd has optimized and monetized the draft lottery in terms
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Speaker 1: of losing like this is. They've just programmed each other,
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Speaker 1: the people that work in that business. You see this
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Speaker 1: race to the bottom, and it is a race. It
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Speaker 1: is a sprints like watching a marathon to the bottom,
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Speaker 1: and it isn't just a strategy in many ways anymore.
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Speaker 1: At this point, I am convinced that it has become
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Speaker 1: muscle memory. And I'd love for this to actually work.
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Speaker 1: I'm just a skeptic that it's actually going to work.
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Speaker 1: I'd love for the NBA to get back to a
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Speaker 1: case where you were shamed if you had the worst record,
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Speaker 1: instead of celebrated this loser mentality that has gone across
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Speaker 1: the sporting world. And I give the nerds credit. You're
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Speaker 1: very smart. They brainwashed a lot of dumb people to
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Speaker 1: believe that you should celebrate the bottom teams and the
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Speaker 1: Jazz and Wizards and Sacramento and all these teams that suck.
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Speaker 1: And the league continues to be shocked that the TV
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Speaker 1: partners and a growing number of fans have seen the
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Speaker 1: light and they're not on board with us. And we've
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Speaker 1: seen this movie before in terms of the changing of
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Speaker 1: the lottery. And they put guardrails up. Now this is
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Speaker 1: obviously not about the lottery, but the NBA put guardrails
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Speaker 1: up a couple of years back on load management and
11:38
Speaker 1: what did the drivers do. They still swerved into the ditch.
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Speaker 1: Load management hasn't died, it just got rebranded. The truth
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Speaker 1: is the mind virus of openly sucking. Whether that's star
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Speaker 1: players who are so lazy they can't play and shout
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Speaker 1: out my man, Joel Embeid. That is it's still undefeated.
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Speaker 1: That is still undefeated. And you cannot legislate competitiveness when
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Speaker 1: half the league is addicted to the short cut. And
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Speaker 1: you can fix the lottery math, I get it, I
12:13
Speaker 1: do malor math. You can fix the lottery math. You
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Speaker 1: cannot fix the brain rot that tells the star player
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Speaker 1: to rest that that is more valuable than getting reps.
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Speaker 1: And everybody, I get we all love shortcuts, right, It's
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Speaker 1: part of human It's baked into our DNA and all that,
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Speaker 1: the shortcut and whatnot. And the NBA is the only
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Speaker 1: league where losing is considered long term planning, Like Adam
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Speaker 1: Silver keeps talking about it. I go back to the
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Speaker 1: phrase I just used, But the incentive to be bad
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Speaker 1: is also baked in to the DNA. And so the
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Speaker 1: point of all this is until losing actually hurts and
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Speaker 1: you're shamed and your mock and your ridicule, which is
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Speaker 1: what it was like when I was growing up, like oh,
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Speaker 1: you're embarrassing. This is the worst the words. And I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about the way I would do it. And if
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Speaker 1: I become the commissioner, I really should become the commissioner.
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Speaker 1: With Adam Silver stune is, I would say, listen, if
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Speaker 1: you are if you're one of the worst teams in
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Speaker 1: the NBA for back to back years or any year
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Speaker 1: after that, I am going to give you a lower
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Speaker 1: share of TV revenue. You will be financially in hardship.
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Speaker 1: You will get less because you're putting out a bad product,
13:20
Speaker 1: and that's what we're doing is a TV show, and
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Speaker 1: your product sucks, and so therefore we're not going to
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Speaker 1: give you as much TV money because you're unwatchable. And
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Speaker 1: so get out of here with that. Now, when that happens,
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Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. The final point
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Speaker 1: to the NFL. We go to La and another story
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Speaker 1: popped up this week trying to explain why Rams coach
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Speaker 1: Sean McVay looked like he was attending a funeral at
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Speaker 1: the Rams first round draft news comes. You might remember
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Speaker 1: that we talked about it here. The latest reporting claiming
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Speaker 1: that Sean mcvay's rather sour puss, his sour mood at
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Speaker 1: the dais there had nothing to do with Alabama quarterback
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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson. The reporting recently said that the Rams head
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Speaker 1: coach had gotten into a heated argument with GM Less
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Speaker 1: Snead over another topic right before walking out to face reporters,
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Speaker 1: and McVeigh was still carrying, you know, carrying that emotion
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Speaker 1: when the cameras came on. So the question, Sean McVay,
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Speaker 1: if you believe this was not upset with the Rams
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Speaker 1: picking Ty Simpson instead he was annoyed with his GM
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Speaker 1: over a different issue. So how does that land on
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Speaker 1: your end? So keeping it real here, the rams are
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Speaker 1: doing more clean up right now than the janitorial staff
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Speaker 1: at Solfidus. This is a scrub a dub dub situation.
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Speaker 1: You got Sean McVay, you know, through his buddies in
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Speaker 1: the idiots usefully, it's in the media. His media buddies
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Speaker 1: who are they're planting the stories say well, no, I'm
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Speaker 1: not upset with Ty Simpson. I was just annoyed with
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Speaker 1: less sneed over some mystery issue. Okay, so that makes
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Speaker 1: it better. So how does all this land? I'm glad
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Speaker 1: you asked. So this lands like a carefully crafted pr
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Speaker 1: operation hiding state secrets. If you need weeks of anonymous
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Speaker 1: leaks to scream everything's fine, everything is definitely not fine.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you're around a couple now,
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Speaker 1: I mean your buddy and his wife, and they really
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Speaker 1: go out of the way. A lot of posting on
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Speaker 1: social media about everything's wonderful. My experience is normally the
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Speaker 1: people that post everything's great on social media and relationships
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Speaker 1: are ready for divorce. That's typically how that goes. You
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Not always, but typically it's not Mayberry.
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Speaker 1: Nothing's perfect, you know, there's bumps and whatnot. So this
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Speaker 1: is a classic over correction. That's the word I use.
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Speaker 1: Over correction. Sean McVay less need are essentially doing couples
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Speaker 1: therapy through the media to convince us that they're all aligned.
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Speaker 1: And it's been weeks. I see the play that they
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Speaker 1: flushed a first rounder. Whether this works out long term
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Speaker 1: or not, the Rams flushed a first round pick, which
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Speaker 1: all of you idiots tell me is the most important
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Speaker 1: thing in the world. First round pick on a quarterback who,
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Speaker 1: if everything goes right, won't see the field for at
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Speaker 1: least a year, possibly two years. And that there's a
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Speaker 1: large sticker on that quarterback that says some assembly required.
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Speaker 1: Ty Simpson is not a bridge quarterback. He's a drawbridge.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna take forever to lower that down unless something
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Speaker 1: goes terribly wrong. Now do I hope it works out? Absolutely?
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Speaker 1: Is it risky to me? The real story that they're
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Speaker 1: bearing is that Sean mvay having to explain to his
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Speaker 1: reigning MVP, Matthew Stafford, why the Rams organization decided they
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Speaker 1: no longer are trying to help him win this season,
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Speaker 1: and they are willing to flush a first round draft
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Speaker 1: pickaway that they almost never have anyway, and that they're
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Speaker 1: more likely and this is what they're doing. They're betting
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Speaker 1: on tomorrow with that first round pick while telling I
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Speaker 1: guess what did McVeigh say to Stafford that they're all in?
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Speaker 1: So that would be a lie. And the Rams have
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Speaker 1: a good team and obviously the most popular team in
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Speaker 1: the NFL based on seven primetime games. But you flushed
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Speaker 1: instant help, whether that's another star linebacker, a possible star linebacker,
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Speaker 1: or a wide receiver or somebody that can help you
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Speaker 1: right now for somebody who's going to get hemorrhoids sitting
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Speaker 1: on the bench, and you're a super Bowl contender, and
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Speaker 1: this is like a Kickstarter project. Seriously, what are we doing?
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Speaker 1: So I'm sure there'll be more on that, because why not.
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22:41
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22:43
Speaker 1: miney mo. Let's say hello to Gunner from northern Minnesota,
22:48
Speaker 1: way past way past Lake Superior, and we say load
22:52
Speaker 1: to Gunner, Hello, Gunner, welcome.
22:56
Speaker 8: Well how's it going, Ben? I can hear you had
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Speaker 8: a great time.
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Speaker 3: It's watch.
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Speaker 8: It's not watching. They've gotten through because every time gets
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Speaker 8: all my hour linch ends up and I can't get through.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Gunner is calling us from the break room at
23:12
Speaker 1: Walmart right now. He's hard at work. And what are
23:16
Speaker 1: we having for? I don't want to turn this into
23:19
Speaker 1: food picks with Marcel because you have a different stick, Gunner,
23:23
Speaker 1: so I don't want to do that. I'm guessing you're
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Speaker 1: eating some mac and cheese. Anyone else I want money
23:29
Speaker 1: in on this. We can go around the room here.
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Speaker 7: I'm going to go with a bagel and cream cheese.
23:34
Speaker 1: Okay, bagel and cream cheese. Had a great bagel in
23:37
Speaker 1: New York the other day. It was really good. What
23:39
Speaker 1: about you, bree. Of course you want in on this, Bree.
23:42
Speaker 1: You want to play the game. What is Gunner in
23:44
Speaker 1: the break room in northern Minnesota eating right now.
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Speaker 5: A peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
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Speaker 1: That's a classic pbn J solid as long as it
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Speaker 1: cuts diagonally, not down the middle. All right, real answers, Gunner.
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Speaker 8: I'm having a hammon cheaf dandwich.
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Speaker 1: A couple of those ham and cheese. That's your go to.
24:03
Speaker 1: I feel like you eat that a lot to ham
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Speaker 1: and cheese, all.
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Speaker 7: Right, and that that was the closest with the cheese.
24:14
Speaker 1: Well you this is the same which both you what
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Speaker 1: was saying, which is I want with the mac and
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Speaker 1: cheese which does have cheese on it? So there is
24:20
Speaker 1: that you know, that element to it. Yeah, well this
24:23
Speaker 1: is the part you dazzle, Gunner. This is the opportunity.
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Speaker 1: You're on the big stage here, Gunn. You're right in
24:28
Speaker 1: the middle. It's Broadway. Here's your opportunity. You sound great
24:31
Speaker 1: so far?
24:31
Speaker 4: All right?
24:33
Speaker 8: Well, Unla putting this game and was a take down
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Speaker 8: the Spurs night revenge game.
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Speaker 1: Revenge that I don't say. If that's poppies, they don't
24:44
Speaker 1: say revenge games. Stop with that. It's a playoff series,
24:47
Speaker 1: not a revenge game.
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Speaker 8: Please, it is a revenge nas revenge on Wemby for
24:53
Speaker 8: Donut Elbow. That show is suspension, but Wemby because he's
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Speaker 8: a big star.
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Speaker 1: That is that is correct. People actually tune in to
25:04
Speaker 1: watch Wemby. That's that's usually how that That's usually how
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Speaker 1: that goes. It's typically that. So you're and so just
25:11
Speaker 1: for the record, that San Antonio is favored in that
25:15
Speaker 1: I know that game is in your backyard, way away
25:17
Speaker 1: from you because you're north northern Minnesota, but in in
25:20
Speaker 1: the Twin Cities and the Spurs are a five point
25:22
Speaker 1: favorite that game. How about that?
25:25
Speaker 8: Oh? I find was like an ten or something like that,
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Speaker 8: and now it's tuned down. Dang, that's good.
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Speaker 1: There, you're you're optimistic. Look at you. You're all excited
25:36
Speaker 1: about that.
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Speaker 8: Well, I have a good thing. I'm telling John suspending
25:39
Speaker 8: for a game. So we didn't the last game they
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Speaker 8: got men on him. I don't know how many people
25:47
Speaker 8: don't know that one thing that I got you?
25:53
Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, any other amazing, amazing conversation. Anything
25:57
Speaker 1: else you have to add here? Going? Anything else?
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Speaker 3: Any want to say?
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Speaker 8: Are you gonna be able to come up to the
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Speaker 8: Mannesota up here because I have an area all set
26:05
Speaker 8: up if you want to come up. It's turned our
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Speaker 8: house celebration. There's the music and every day.
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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna send Hollering James up there to
26:13
Speaker 1: hang out with you. How about that when you and
26:16
Speaker 1: James have a promote the Hollering James event. Gunner and
26:20
Speaker 1: Hollering James a couple of legends. How about Ferg Dog.
26:23
Speaker 1: You could have Ferg Dog, your big fan, Ferg Dog
26:25
Speaker 1: could go.
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Speaker 3: Out hang out to meet the crew.
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Speaker 1: I want you want to meet the crew?
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Speaker 3: All right?
26:29
Speaker 1: Well, you know it's these things are expensive, but we'll
26:32
Speaker 1: see you never know. Not gonna happen anytime soon, but
26:34
Speaker 1: you never I thank you, Gunner. I gotta go the
26:36
Speaker 1: great Gunner there. You know what Gunner is? Cock eyed
26:39
Speaker 1: optimist is what he is? All right? Where on Lorraina's
26:44
Speaker 1: big board, where is going to Northern Minnesota? Lorena? On
26:47
Speaker 1: your big board of things you'd like to see in
26:49
Speaker 1: your life? Right below the Canadian board.
26:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, you have a meet and Green in Hawaii first.
26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be the thing. We'd have to hang out
26:59
Speaker 1: with you. You know who Dorco. You know that would
27:01
Speaker 1: be that'd be a little tough dorko comedian. There used
27:06
Speaker 1: to be a guy that called me up from Hawaii.
27:08
Speaker 1: He hadn't called in a couple of years, and he's
27:11
Speaker 1: a big Raider fan, and he was always sloshed, always
27:15
Speaker 1: completely slashed there and I don't I'm not sure what happened.
27:18
Speaker 1: Then I can imagine what might have happened to him,
27:21
Speaker 1: but he hadn't called in a while. So I've been
27:24
Speaker 1: to I thought I was in northern Minnesota. I was
27:26
Speaker 1: into luth when I went on a little tour of
27:29
Speaker 1: Lake Superior. But there's like a whole another It's kind
27:31
Speaker 1: of like California, Like when you drive to Sacramento in
27:34
Speaker 1: California and think, well, I'm at the end of California. No,
27:36
Speaker 1: it's another couple of hours drive up to get to
27:39
Speaker 1: the Oregon border. But in Minnesota, like you get to
27:44
Speaker 1: I was in Lake Superior, and it's like way up
27:46
Speaker 1: there to get to Manitoba. Like there's a whole bunch
27:50
Speaker 1: of real estate. You got to work your way through.
27:52
Speaker 1: Good hunting if you're into hunting, like really good hunting.
27:55
Speaker 1: Let's go to Joel in Seattle, what's going on, Joel?
27:58
Speaker 3: Welcome, they uh opening nights against the Patriots. We're gonna
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Speaker 3: unveil the World Championship right across from there where they sit.
28:10
Speaker 3: They're going to see it right in front of them.
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Speaker 1: Well, you say that it's possible that they just maybe
28:16
Speaker 1: they'll put blinders up and stay in the locker room.
28:19
Speaker 1: You know, how about that. It's conceivable they might not
28:22
Speaker 1: even watch. That's usually what happens. They sit back and
28:25
Speaker 1: maybe they'll have Diana Russini give him a pep talk
28:27
Speaker 1: before they go out there and take the field.
28:29
Speaker 3: You know, that's what we're looking forward to. Yeah, so,
28:33
Speaker 3: how was Beijing?
28:36
Speaker 1: Beijing? I don't know. It was fine, it was wonderful.
28:39
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was there. I might have flown
28:40
Speaker 1: over Beijing on the way back or something like that.
28:43
Speaker 1: I meant to took the long way. Yeah, okay, thank you.
28:49
Speaker 1: That's it right there, Joel. Amazing. Unless it wasn't. Well,
28:54
Speaker 1: this is an interesting story. So we go to Major
28:57
Speaker 1: League Baseball. Is it true that an all star level
29:04
Speaker 1: baseball player who got one of the largest contracts in
29:08
Speaker 1: recent times in baseball has now been linked to illegal
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Speaker 1: cock fighting? Illegal cock fighting I just did say hello,
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Speaker 1: dateline Puerto Rico, which is not a U. Why did
29:26
Speaker 1: we stop at fifty states? Why don't we have more
29:28
Speaker 1: than that? I don't get it. We should have more
29:30
Speaker 1: states anyway, Puerto Rico, which is a US territory and
29:35
Speaker 1: also the home in the off season. Anyway of Edwin Diaz,
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Speaker 1: the guy from the Dodger and my aching loose bodies
29:44
Speaker 1: in my elbow. So Edwin Diaz called out, according to
29:48
Speaker 1: some reports here from the USA Today, which is apparently
29:53
Speaker 1: still in business, that's rather shocking. And they claim they've got,
29:57
Speaker 1: you know, photos, and they've searched out he was on
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Speaker 1: social media. They obtained photographs that show Edwin Diz pictured
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Speaker 1: in his Dodger uniform advertising cock fighting tournaments in not one,
30:13
Speaker 1: not one, but two two separate Facebook posts. Now this
30:19
Speaker 1: goes all the way back to February. So you're saying, well, well,
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Speaker 1: who cares may now who cares well? The leading newspaper
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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico? Who knew there was a leading newspaper
30:28
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, so hey, they published a story. This
30:31
Speaker 1: actually goes back a little ways as well, with a
30:34
Speaker 1: photo showing the now Dodger closer was hurt standing in
30:40
Speaker 1: a pit of the cock fighting arena. And the story
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Speaker 1: also alleged I guess he quoted Diez as saying, quote,
30:50
Speaker 1: it's a pastime I've followed since I was a child.
30:54
Speaker 1: It's legal in Puerto Rico. Thank god, otherwise I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be here. That's a translation. Now it turns out fun
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Speaker 1: fact here that I believe thanks to when was this
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen? Cockfighting is not legal in Puerto Rico. There's
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Speaker 1: a federal ban on cockfighting that went into effect in
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Speaker 1: all fifty states and US territories, which Puerto Rico is
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Speaker 1: part of. This happened in twenty nineteen. But wait, there's more.
31:24
Speaker 1: The maximum penalty for participating in a cockfight is five
31:30
Speaker 1: years in jail and a fine of you know whatever.
31:34
Speaker 1: And then also if you're just a spectator, which they're
31:37
Speaker 1: claiming Diez, I don't know that. It just claims that
31:40
Speaker 1: he was promoting it. So does that mean he's more
31:42
Speaker 1: than just a spectator? One year in jail and a
31:45
Speaker 1: fine just for attending a cockfight? So also a couple
31:52
Speaker 1: of these, I guess, random dudes who are in Puerto Rico.
31:57
Speaker 1: One's a horse jockey. I guess the other one is
31:59
Speaker 1: two one of them very well known horse jockey and
32:06
Speaker 1: took part I believe in the Kentucky Derby and their
32:10
Speaker 1: name has been tied to this as well. So I'm
32:14
Speaker 1: gonna go that this turns out to be nothing because
32:18
Speaker 1: is that a high priority for the federal It's kind
32:20
Speaker 1: of like like, isn't weed technically illegal under the federal government?
32:25
Speaker 1: Are they really enforcing the weed laws? You know what
32:27
Speaker 1: I'm saying?
32:28
Speaker 5: Like, Hey, Ben, yes, I have the theme song for
32:32
Speaker 5: the cock fighting you do?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
32:34
Speaker 7: Can I play it?
32:35
Speaker 1: Yeah? Go ahead? Okay, Oh there you go.
32:41
Speaker 4: Now enter the ring.
32:43
Speaker 1: Well, I gotta be careful. I could I could do
32:45
Speaker 1: some play by play here, but it sounds you guys
32:47
Speaker 1: would take it out of context and I get in
32:48
Speaker 1: trouble and so I could, you know, say, now coming
32:52
Speaker 1: in the biggest and the baddest of them all, you know. Yeah.
32:59
Speaker 1: There was a Fox Sports Radio update anchor years ago
33:02
Speaker 1: who no longer works at the company, that went on
33:05
Speaker 1: vacation to Mexico and obviously not Puerto Rico, but to
33:10
Speaker 1: Mexico and came back and she had pamphlets from her
33:15
Speaker 1: hotel or hotel you know how those. Uh, I guess
33:18
Speaker 1: they still have them even on the internet. You know.
33:20
Speaker 1: You go to on a vacation somewhere and they have
33:22
Speaker 1: the lobby of the hotel, they have all those flyers,
33:24
Speaker 1: you know, go do all the touristy things. And in
33:27
Speaker 1: Mexico they had at the hotel interview pamphlets. Yeah, the pamphlets. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's at the pamp So they had pamphlets to go
33:33
Speaker 1: watch a cockfight, and they had I guess they were
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Speaker 1: on TV. I don't know. Obviously that was a long
33:38
Speaker 1: time ago.
33:39
Speaker 7: There was big cocks. If that's what they're advertising.
33:42
Speaker 1: Well, uh, somebody Michael Vick got in trouble for dog fighting.
33:46
Speaker 1: If he had done cock fighting, would that have been better?
33:50
Speaker 7: No? No, like the cam maybe because people don't like
33:54
Speaker 7: cocks as much as they like dogs.
33:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like the cockfighting. Thing that I don't get is
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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, like we eat chickens, right like you.
34:05
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like I understand it's violent and
34:07
Speaker 1: there's blood everywhere and.
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Speaker 5: All that, and it's all bad any kind of fighting.
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Speaker 1: It's just that I don't need dogs though, but I
34:14
Speaker 1: don't the cock fighting. I feel like there's a gray
34:16
Speaker 1: area with the you know, well I don't need dog.
34:18
Speaker 1: Do you eat dog? No?
34:20
Speaker 5: No, But I'm just saying, like in the delicacy somewhere.
34:23
Speaker 1: There was when I was in high school, there was
34:25
Speaker 1: a restaurant in town that they The rumor was in
34:27
Speaker 1: high school that they were serving dog. You know that
34:29
Speaker 1: was they got shut down by the health department, and
34:31
Speaker 1: I don't think it was ever true. But I never
34:33
Speaker 1: went there.
34:33
Speaker 7: That was Orange County though, right, yeah.
34:35
Speaker 1: It was ill, but I never went because I was like, oh,
34:38
Speaker 1: they might serve you know dog, and I love dogs.
34:41
Speaker 3: Yeah.
34:42
Speaker 1: Anyway, I bet you they been to Porto Rico. I'd
34:46
Speaker 1: have been to port I bet you there's cock fighting
34:48
Speaker 1: all over Puerto Rico. It's just part of been part
34:50
Speaker 1: of the car. How are you just gonna get rid
34:51
Speaker 1: of that? It's been there forever whatever, twenty nineteen, it's
34:54
Speaker 1: I guess that's been seven years. I can't believe it
34:56
Speaker 1: been seven years, But that's seven years ago. That's not
34:58
Speaker 1: that long in the big picture anyway. That's the Edwin
35:01
Speaker 1: Diez story for you. So put that in your pipe.
35:04
Speaker 1: We'll see if anything happens there. The Dodger closer where
35:07
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have really been great at signing relief pitchers
35:10
Speaker 1: who suck or have other issues. Anyway, time now, time
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Speaker 1: now for the we have Mallard of the third degree.
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Speaker 1: Here's the insta trivium. So Jung Hooley had the first
35:22
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35:25
Speaker 1: How is that possible? It seems play each other gazillion
35:28
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37:46
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with since pizza was invented?
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Speaker 1: All right? The interesting answer, it's actually since Larry Herndon
38:58
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Speaker 5: Last weekend, Steve Kerr agreed to a new two year
39:15
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39:18
Speaker 5: Steve had all but decided to retire, but the Warriors
39:21
Speaker 5: win over the Clippers change his mind. Ben, do you
39:23
Speaker 5: think the Warriors can get back to championship contention?
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Speaker 3: Here?
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Speaker 7: You're still there?
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Speaker 1: No, he's just ridiculous. The Warriors are going to be
39:31
Speaker 1: back to the Donald Foyle Warriors. What are we doing here?
39:34
Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't understand this at all. Steve
39:37
Speaker 1: Kerr like, what are you doing? He he did D
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Speaker 1: to have him on I did Weekend Show. Steve Kerr like,
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Speaker 1: what are the team's gonna stink? Kurrs not get anybody.
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Speaker 1: They're gonna get rid of Draymond Green. They should get
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Speaker 1: rid of Draymond Green. No, they're not any work. What
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Speaker 1: else is he gonna say?
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Speaker 3: Though?
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Speaker 1: Right next?
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Speaker 5: A feature on NFL dot com dropped on Wednesday naming
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Speaker 5: the most vulnerable division champs heading into next season. List
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Speaker 5: to the Steelers at number one. It seems pretty obvious,
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Speaker 5: since we don't even know who their quarterback is going
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Speaker 5: to be. Ben, Who would you have as the second
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Speaker 5: most vulnerable division?
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Speaker 1: This is obvious. Also, the Seattle Seahawks that that was
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Speaker 1: a fluke run. They got the championship hangover in Seattle.
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Speaker 1: So for Sam Darnold, please the Patriots, they played a
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Speaker 1: bunch of cupcakes. You go down the board. The Broncos,
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Speaker 1: I can say that because Coop's not here. I don't
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Speaker 1: trust them. The Eagles are vulnerable, Caroline Jacksonville. But I'd
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Speaker 1: see Seattle and the Patriots at the top.
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Speaker 5: Next, All right, Giants side receiver Molik Neighbors underwent a
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Speaker 5: second surgery for a clean up procedure and his knee
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Speaker 5: in New York is hopeful he'll be available for Week one.
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Speaker 7: Ben, is this a red flag for you?
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Speaker 1: Well, it's not ideal because you got Harbaugh coming in.
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Speaker 1: You want to get off to the good start, get
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Speaker 1: rid of the bad mojo that's been with the Giants.
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Speaker 1: This is a setback, but it's stamp. We'll find it's
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Speaker 1: one wide receiver is not going to change it. You passed,
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Speaker 1: you passed, breaking me a back past