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Chuck & Buck 11-17 Hour 4: MMQB continues with Mike Holmgren and Hugh Millen. · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Now the Monday Morning Quarterback with Mike hom Grin and
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  Speaker 1: Hugh Millin. Here's Chuck and Buck.
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  Speaker 2: Hi ask good morning, nine o'clock hour here on this
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  Speaker 2: some Monday. It is the whole crew, Ashley, Bucky, Chuck
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  Speaker 2: with you, and of course analysts. Hugh Millan, who's been
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  Speaker 2: with us since eight o'clock and now joining the conversation
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  Speaker 2: is a former Seahawk head coach Mike Holmgren is with
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  Speaker 2: us right here on the radio program.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, coach, Good morning guys, Good morning.
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  Speaker 2: Great to have you with us. We appreciate it. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it was nice Adian studio last week. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what Bucky said to you to offend you.
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  Speaker 4: I we'll come back this week.
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  Speaker 3: Well, no, it wasn't Bucky's fault.
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  Speaker 4: We'll blame him, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, great to have you with us.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're talking about a twenty one nineteen loss and
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  Speaker 2: a lot's being made, and obviously so about Sam Donald's
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  Speaker 2: for interception Day. What was your read on Sam Donald's
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  Speaker 2: performance Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's probably like everyone else's. It was you can't
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  Speaker 3: win games like that typically. Now they almost won it anyway,
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I said last week, I thought the
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  Speaker 3: play of the two quarterbacks would determine the outcome of
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  Speaker 3: the game, and I think they did. But the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of things and I could almost win
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  Speaker 3: the game. But Sam, you know, you can't throw four
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  Speaker 3: interceptions and he knows that better than anybody. And I
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  Speaker 3: don't think you're going to see it again. But that
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  Speaker 3: was the game yesterday.
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  Speaker 6: Well, let's talk about Mike the the way you coach
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  Speaker 6: a quarterback when he's kind of in the midst of
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  Speaker 6: something like that. And to the extent of it, is
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  Speaker 6: it strictly you're just saying, Hey, x's and o's, these
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  Speaker 6: are the reads. You know, the sun comes up, the
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  Speaker 6: rooster crows, you eat breakfast, like this is the sequence?
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  Speaker 6: Are you doing it? Are you doing it that way?
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  Speaker 6: Or to what extent do you ever think about maybe
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  Speaker 6: I don't say fragility, but you know the mindset where
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  Speaker 6: like whoa, how's this guy's confidence, how's the confidence the
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  Speaker 6: team has in him? Like, you know, is it kind
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  Speaker 6: of just a cowboy up? This a man's game. Uh,
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  Speaker 6: we don't think about that kind of stuff or or
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  Speaker 6: or to what extent do you pay attention to maybe
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  Speaker 6: thinking about how how is this guy's emotional state?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I think in dealing with Sam, I of course
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  Speaker 3: you you know this, and uh, you know I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was a little more emotional with the quarterbacks on
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  Speaker 3: the sideline than a lot of guys. But they knew
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  Speaker 3: where I was coming from because, uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: coached them during the week and you know, he would
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  Speaker 3: I would talk to him and I'd probably get after
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  Speaker 3: him a little bit for his decision making. You got
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  Speaker 3: to clean it up. We'll keep going. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: believe in you. You know, you never leave it, leave
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  Speaker 3: it go with a negative, you know, but he has
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  Speaker 3: to know. You know you're better than this. Come on,
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  Speaker 3: you know, make let's make decisions. I think my takeaway
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  Speaker 3: from the decisions he was making was he was trying
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  Speaker 3: to do too much. And and I think when you
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  Speaker 3: watch him play on occasion when he has interceptions or
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  Speaker 3: just throws to you, don't don't make you don't have
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  Speaker 3: to do that. Don't do that. We'll live for another day.
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  Speaker 3: And I think his interceptions yesterday, he tried to do
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  Speaker 3: too much and that, you know what, I applaud that
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  Speaker 3: in a player wanting to get it done. But then
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  Speaker 3: as a quarterback, that's where the judgment comes in. And
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  Speaker 3: not every quarterback has that great judgment, but I think
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  Speaker 3: he does. You just got to keep keep coaching that.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, just a bad day, I suppose.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, coach, how do you walk that tight rope
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  Speaker 7: over getting on him a little bit and letting him
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  Speaker 7: know that decision making is not going to cut it'll
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  Speaker 7: that puts us behind the eight ball and yet you're
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  Speaker 7: also not wanting to clip their wings to some extent
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  Speaker 7: when it comes to you know, you're still wanting them
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  Speaker 7: to try to fit it in the tight windows that
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  Speaker 7: the NFL presents.
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  Speaker 2: Well, why would you ask coach Homer and he would
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  Speaker 2: have no idea. It's not like you ever coached some
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  Speaker 2: gunslinger that he had sometimes like yeah this, yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you're like practically speaking Latin to him, right, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: you could do something out, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, Bucky Way. I appreciate the question, Buck, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: really do. Yeah, No, I I think in NFL films
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  Speaker 3: have caught me on occasion. You may have seen it
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  Speaker 3: on TV where I'm getting after forever. Uh, it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: there is a thin line there though, and you have
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  Speaker 3: to the quarterback has to understand you and and you
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  Speaker 3: have to develop that relationship with with your player so
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  Speaker 3: he knows that, you know, Okay, I'm gonna get ripped
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  Speaker 3: a little bit here, but I know what he's doing
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  Speaker 3: and dog gone, I'm not going to do it anymore.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I told you the story about the time
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  Speaker 3: with Hassleback and he kind of came after me after
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  Speaker 3: I rated him and I sent him down you're not
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  Speaker 3: you're out, You're in, You're out. Seneca get in. And
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  Speaker 3: then Matt came up to me about ten minutes later
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  Speaker 3: and can I talk to you? I said what, and
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  Speaker 3: he goes, I'm sorry, you know what I mean? Then
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  Speaker 3: we I put him back in the game. But I think,
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  Speaker 3: look at I think Bill Walsh. I learned a valuable
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  Speaker 3: lesson from him as well. He was on the phones
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  Speaker 3: with me. Montana's playing and he's something bad happens and
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  Speaker 3: Bill is going nuts on the phone with me, just
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  Speaker 3: absolutely nuts. Joe comes walking over and I'm going, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not playing talk to him and Bill goes, how's it
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  Speaker 3: going out there? I go, what? What did he just say?
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  Speaker 3: You know, so there isn't inline And you know this
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  Speaker 3: better than anybody, but a quarterback he gets paid a
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  Speaker 3: lot of money. He's got to be able to handle it.
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  Speaker 3: He has to be able to handle it. And I
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  Speaker 3: think if you don't do that at times, you're making
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  Speaker 3: a mistake.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I know it better than anybody because I had
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  Speaker 6: a lot of those games, so I had to figure.
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  Speaker 4: Out how to make that work.
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  Speaker 6: But you know what, say we talked about Brian Daved
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  Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago. There's a very important distinction.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: You you would get mad, and you can get mad
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  Speaker 6: at me. Fine, that's fine, because like you're treating me
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  Speaker 6: man man, I deserve it. I've made a bad mistake.
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  Speaker 6: But you never I never saw you get disgusted and
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  Speaker 6: like take your clipboard and fling it like a frisbee
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  Speaker 6: right in front of a guy in disgust.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: To me, that might seem like a subtle distinction. I
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  Speaker 6: think that's a world of distinction, you know. So I
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  Speaker 6: don't know if that was something that you cognizantly thought of.
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  Speaker 5: Probably not.
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  Speaker 6: It was just not in your nature to be, you know,
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  Speaker 6: in that way, to just you know, be in disgust
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  Speaker 6: of somebody angry, yes, disgust.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think it's important because I always
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  Speaker 3: preached mutual respect, and because I'm angry at a player
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  Speaker 3: or and didn't have to be a quarter of it
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  Speaker 3: could be in a receiver, it could be anybody. The
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  Speaker 3: the idea of showing that anger in front of the
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  Speaker 3: TV audience and and everybody in that stadium, that's that's
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  Speaker 3: a huge mistake. Then you're then you're you're really showing
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  Speaker 3: the world what you're doing with that young man, and
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  Speaker 3: you can't do that. You cannot do that, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: you know you can. You've got to hold that stuff
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  Speaker 3: in and then deal with it later on or in
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  Speaker 3: a different way. So I think when in Brian Brian
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  Speaker 3: Dables case, and he and he did that when I
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  Speaker 3: was he had I had him in Cleveland and I
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  Speaker 3: had to talk to him a couple of times about it.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the personality every head coach in this league.
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  Speaker 3: You you know that the different personalities, they treat things differently.
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  Speaker 3: But as the headman, you cannot humiliate your players that way.
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  Speaker 2: That's a no, no, one more question about donald, at
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  Speaker 2: least for my part before we move on. There are
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  Speaker 2: other things certain to discuss. But you're not, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you're Mike McDonald. You're not waking up this morning with
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  Speaker 2: your confidence shaken at all in Sam darnoald, are you.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, he had a bad game, and he
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  Speaker 2: made a lot of mistakes, and that was a game
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  Speaker 2: we really wanted to win. Division rival more important than
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  Speaker 2: just your average regular season game. But Mike McDonald's not
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  Speaker 2: waking up this morning scratching his head wondering if They've
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  Speaker 2: got the right guy.
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  Speaker 3: Is he No, he is not. He is not. And
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  Speaker 3: you know you got you mentioned Brett earlier. There were
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  Speaker 3: times that I'd wake up on money and go, duh, yo, man,
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  Speaker 3: how I'm going to do this? But he's my quarterback
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  Speaker 3: and I'm believe in him, and I got it's my job.
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  Speaker 3: It's my job to make him better. I know, I
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  Speaker 3: know he's got the skill and I've seen it. Now
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  Speaker 3: let's work on the things that we can correct. No,
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  Speaker 3: and so No, you're right, Chuck, he's he's he's their quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: and so how do you deal with it? How do
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  Speaker 3: you fix it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Mike, when you look at kind of where they
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  Speaker 6: are the last six Super Bowl winners after ten games,
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  Speaker 6: one of them was at six and four, one of
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  Speaker 6: them was eight and two, and the other four of
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  Speaker 6: them were at seven and three. So the Seahawks today
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  Speaker 6: are in the same or better spot than five of
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  Speaker 6: the last six Super Bowl winners. Like they're gonna get
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  Speaker 6: their chances at the Rams, the forty nine ers, they
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  Speaker 6: got everything in front of them. And so I think
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  Speaker 6: from that standpoint, you know, you just say I would
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  Speaker 6: almost look and say this team, the Seahawks everybody's saying,
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  Speaker 6: are they like the twenty twelve or the twenty thirteen Seahawks.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe they're not.
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  Speaker 6: Quite good enough. Maybe they're a year away from being
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  Speaker 6: that dominant team that just has to be like in
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  Speaker 6: a cycling you know, the one that has to face
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  Speaker 6: the head wind. Maybe it's a little better to draft
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  Speaker 6: off it. Nobody's going to be saying Seattle's number one
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  Speaker 6: in the power rankings this week. You know, let them
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  Speaker 6: just kind of be the hunter, not the hunted. And
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  Speaker 6: they're still in a great place for this season. And
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  Speaker 6: maybe they're not just quite good enough to be, you know,
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  Speaker 6: front runners like that. That doesn't mean they're not good
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  Speaker 6: enough to win a Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you make a good point view because
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  Speaker 3: it's a long season and they've got got a lot
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  Speaker 3: of games to play, excuse me. And there they are
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  Speaker 3: in a good position. And if you look at the schedule,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can do that now. I didn't do
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  Speaker 3: it so much when I was coaching, but I kind
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  Speaker 3: of I'm chalking up some wins right now. The way
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  Speaker 3: they're playing and the way they're defense is the way
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  Speaker 3: they're playing. You know, take away the four interceptions yesterday,
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  Speaker 3: the way they've been playing on defense and offense, and
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  Speaker 3: so no, and I think there's going to be a
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  Speaker 3: handful of teams, looking how teams are playing this year
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  Speaker 3: in the league, that are in the same position that
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  Speaker 3: we'll have a shot right at the end for the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs certainly and then maybe get into the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I do I don't really at this point see any
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  Speaker 3: totally dominating teams. They're good teams. There's a handful of
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  Speaker 3: probably that are at the top. But the dominant team
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  Speaker 3: the team that you go, well, okay, they're in I
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  Speaker 3: don't see that right now. And I see the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: is getting into the playoffs, and then we'll see what
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  Speaker 3: happens here. What that's how I believe the team's gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he wats your thirty thousand foot view after a
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  Speaker 2: loss like that yesterday of this team?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I think if I was a captain, i'd
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  Speaker 6: be I'd be saying just that, like, hey, we're okay,
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  Speaker 6: we're great. We just take care of business, you know,
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  Speaker 6: a week by week we're gonna have plenty of opportunities
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  Speaker 6: to to you know, just catch the teams in front
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  Speaker 6: of us. Heck, we're number one and a week ago
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  Speaker 6: or you know, two days ago, the Seahawks were the
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  Speaker 6: number one team in the NFC. Well now they're they
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  Speaker 6: dropped a far, but you know what, and then another
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  Speaker 6: weekend you can move right back up to number one.
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  Speaker 6: So that that's that's kind of my thought is that
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  Speaker 6: that if they get things corrected, all all all that
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  Speaker 6: happened yesterday, Mike is the Rams held up a mirror
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  Speaker 6: and showed them who they are. And there's things that
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  Speaker 6: they'll like about themselves, and there's things that they'll say,
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  Speaker 6: we need to correct that. And if they handle it
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  Speaker 6: the right way like pros and they do it that way.
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  Speaker 6: I mean I saw that defense with that those goal
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  Speaker 6: line stands. That sure look like a united freaking invigorated
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  Speaker 6: team that's ready to battle anybody in any way, on
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  Speaker 6: any you know, h on any surface, in any time
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  Speaker 6: of the day, you know, And so I think they
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  Speaker 6: have the makings. They just the quarterbacks got to stop
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  Speaker 6: throwing picks and then they're fine.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know absolutely. When you look at the numbers,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, in the game, Uh, it's startling really when
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  Speaker 3: you compare you know, first allens, in time of possession,
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. You look at that, and if you
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  Speaker 3: didn't know the score of the game, you'd say which
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  Speaker 3: were these two teams won? And ninety eight percent of
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  Speaker 3: the people would say the Seattle one. But they didn't
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  Speaker 3: because of the interceptions one. And there are a couple
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  Speaker 3: other things. You know, they settled, had to settle for
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  Speaker 3: field goals instead of touchdowns, and you know, but they
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  Speaker 3: could go away saying, look at we wont let this
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  Speaker 3: one slip away because of this next time, we won't
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  Speaker 3: let it slip away.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I mean you just kind of touched on something
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  Speaker 7: that I wanted to get your take on when it
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  Speaker 7: comes to, you know, the settling for field goals, I mean,
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  Speaker 7: down in the red zone, you know, some credit where
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  Speaker 7: credit is due when it comes to the Rams. They
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  Speaker 7: have one of the better red zone defenses in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: And so, okay, we'll tip our cap a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: But I am wondering my mind is starting to be
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  Speaker 7: changed to some degree about being a little bit more
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  Speaker 7: aggressive on fourth downs. I mean, some of the points
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  Speaker 7: that the Rams put up were on fourth down were
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  Speaker 7: because they went for it on fourth down because they
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  Speaker 7: were down and you know, tight down by the goal line.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, is there any part of you that maybe
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  Speaker 7: thought as much as you were conservative when you coach
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  Speaker 7: that with these new kickoff rules that I mean basically,
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  Speaker 7: there's times when you're getting the ball out near the
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  Speaker 7: forty yard line and you're just a first down or
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  Speaker 7: two away from having three points. And sure, if it's
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  Speaker 7: fourth and nine and you got a fifty five yard field,
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  Speaker 7: go take the three points there. But if you're down
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  Speaker 7: closer to maybe thinking go for that extra four points
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  Speaker 7: instead of just settling for three, because it does feel like,
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  Speaker 7: even though you're getting three points, you're kind of letting
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  Speaker 7: the other team off the hook.
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  Speaker 3: Nowadays, Yeah, I think those are the decisions, tough decisions
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  Speaker 3: in this day and age in the NFL because of
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  Speaker 3: the point you made, Buck you you know, Yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: started to drive on the forty without doing anything, without
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  Speaker 3: doing a thing. They start to drive on the forty.
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  Speaker 3: You get two first downs, you're gonna get three points.
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  Speaker 3: So how do you play this? How do you make
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  Speaker 3: the decisions those are? That's the difference in the game
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  Speaker 3: right now than it was maybe fifteen years ago, you know,
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  Speaker 3: And so you have to decide as a team if
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  Speaker 3: you're going to be aggressive. You know, they yesterday Detroit
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  Speaker 3: and Dan Campbell, their coach has a reputation he's really aggressive,
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  Speaker 3: really aggressive on fourth down. But it comes every game.
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  Speaker 3: You have to in your mind, and that's the tough
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  Speaker 3: part of being a head coach. You got to make
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  Speaker 3: that decision, you know, and and if it works, you're
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  Speaker 3: really smart. If it doesn't work, why did you do that?
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  Speaker 3: You know? So that's a little bit of the crap
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  Speaker 3: shoot in today's game.
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  Speaker 2: How big of a factor was it that that punt
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  Speaker 2: jumped out at the one yard line? Are we talking
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  Speaker 2: about a Seahawk win If you don't have to start
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  Speaker 2: your play calling by getting your back up off of
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  Speaker 2: the end zone.
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  Speaker 3: I think they had a great chance to win if
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  Speaker 3: that didn't happen. In fact, I can't remember the last
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  Speaker 3: time I saw it pun like that. Yeah, that the
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  Speaker 3: way it bounced, the way it got, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: way they downed it. It was beautiful and help the
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  Speaker 3: Rams win the game, you know. But there are a
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: lot of parts in this game. It was so close.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: The game was so close. I can and later on
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: and maybe the next segment or one last thing. I
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: have a little thing about the officials. I don't want
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: to fire you up right now, but I have a
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: little thing about the officials later on, are you yeah?
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Well, well hoping Mike, all right, yeah.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Juck, you're in charge. We don't have to go there.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I'll keep it to myself if you want to work
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I kind of want to know now,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: but all right, we'll keep a cliffhanger here for the
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: rest of the hour.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: We obviously got a lot of other ground to cover.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: I want to talk about Mike McDonald's defense against Matt
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Stafford with coach here this morning, and who knows what
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: else that we'll dabble into with the Mike Holmrin and
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Hugh millon Monday morning. Quarterback rolls on on Chuck and
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, we're disappointed, but it's very clear to me that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: we have a great.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: Team and.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: We're gonna learn to win games like that, and we're
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: gonna learn from you know, weeks like this and all that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: I mean again, we're really we're young.
• 18:22
  Speaker 7: You know, you got you know, you got a young.
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: Head coach or whatever like that, and learning how to
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: how to prepare our teams from week to week. You know,
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: So we're all learning, we're all learning, we're all growing.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: I actually think it's like a competitive advantage for us
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: as we start to grows.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: We are willing to grow and involved.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: We're doing to go job, Mike, give it up, Mike.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I'm with you, Mike, great job, coach, your job, Cook,
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: keep it up. Hang in there, Buck, you're my boy, book, uh,
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Chuck Buck Ashley with you, of course.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So we've got our experts on hand here on a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Monday morning. We've got Mike Homer, We've got Hugh Millen
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: with us as we act to a twenty one to
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: nineteen loss to the Los Angeles Rams. But along those
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: lines of believing in Mike McDonald coach, man, I just
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: thought I saw Matt Stafford look confused this season for
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: the first time in any game, and I think Mike
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: McDonald deserves a lot of credit for that. They had
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: one yard in the second quarter of the Rams. He
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: had one hundred and thirty passing yards for the games,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: and he didn't make the same mistakes that Sam Donald
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: made in giving the ball up, which credit to him.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: But I thought I saw a defensive coach that the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Seahawks had just sort of outthinking Matt Stafford yesterday.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: What did you see?
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I saw, Chuck. I mean, because Matt
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: Stafford's really a good player. I mean, he's played a
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: long time. You can't fool him too much. But the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: defense give them credit, and as a result, you give
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: your head coach. Was the defensive guy credit that he
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: made life mis and the Rams have a good offensive team,
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: And no, that's exactly what happened. So if you want
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to take something away from the game in a very
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: positive way, that's one of the things. Because if he
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: can do that to Matt Stafford, their defense can do
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: that to most quarterbacks in the league. And then you
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: have to eliminate you have to eliminate the mistakes you made.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Sorry, Mike, were you more impressed by how they defended
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Stafford on his own side line of scrimmage, meaning how
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: they they rushed him, how they blitzed him, stunded him,
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: or did you find yourself more impressed with the coverags
• 20:40
  Speaker 6: on the Seahawks side the line of scrimmage?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Well? I think both things. I think that the defense
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: you play the Seahawks, you're going to the quarterback is
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: going to have pressure. So you have to be able
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: to know, even against a great offense line, you're going
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: to be able that they have shown the ability through
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: different ways to get to the quarterback. So then you
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: have to have the quarterback prepared to throw the ball
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: correctly and to maybe drop it off get him out
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of his you know, his spot there. But you saw
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: what you saw yesterday. What I saw was that he's
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: a really good passer, but there were two or three,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: maybe four or five throws where he just missed the throw.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: He was short, it was wide. You know, it wasn't
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: a good throw. And he's a good quarterback. So how
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: does that happen. It's a combination of the pass rush
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: and their secondary is good, and they're doing all this
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: without love you know who, and which I think when
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: I think he's one of their best players. So give
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: them credit. They did a great job that way, really
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: good enough to win that football game.
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: I talk you know, Mike, I think we can all
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: remember that deep in route, that dagger that the DeVante
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Adams he tried to reach back behind him and he
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: dropped it, and the telecast really showed, you know, DeVante
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: Adams was really disappointed in himself.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Guys.
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: I tell you, when you when you watch the inzin
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: copy of that coach's tape, if you look at how
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford Mike is standing, how he threw that. He
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: threw that ball thirty one yards in the air, and
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: he was just standing and with Leonard Williams just absolutely
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: cave in his chest in He just kind of flicked
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: it without any rotation in his body, without his shoulder
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: coming through. It was just like an arm like he
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: was tossing a I don't know, skipping rocks at a
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: lake or something. And and yet the ball just jumped
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: thirty yards down the field, almost perfectly accurate. It would
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: it would have been better to be a little bit
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: in front, but but that guy's arm talent is just insane.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Oh no, he's he's really special and he's been special
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: a long time. You know, the stat always comes up
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: his all time records one fifteen wins, one fifteen losses,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and he a, what's that is not very good? But
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: you know, think of the teams he's been with and
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. But here's another thing about
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: the secondary. You mentioned their secondary, our secondary, Demante Adams.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I think he caught one ball yesterday, yep, I think,
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: and that was the touchdown. And he's really he's really
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: a special player, has been for a long time. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: if that happens in a game, you know, you know
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: they're doing some great things in the secondary.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Well, I mean we've given a lot of flowers to
• 23:31
  Speaker 7: the team that ended up losing, and understandably so I
• 23:33
  Speaker 7: don't think the sky is falling after the way they played.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: I would want to ask coach the idea of I mean,
• 23:40
  Speaker 7: Kyrien Williams.
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: They didn't really slow him down.
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, he only carried the ball twelve times, but
• 23:45
  Speaker 7: he averaged seven point six yards of carry. Even some
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: of that skewed because of that one big long run
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: that he had, but he was fairly effective. Was there
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: things you didn't like about the stopping of the run game?
• 23:56
  Speaker 7: Because you know, at the end of the of the
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: game the press conference, Ernest Jones said, hey, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 7: this ain't all on the quarterback as much as a
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: lot of it is. A lion's share of it's on
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: those four interceptions. But he said, you know, we could
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: have made some more defensive plays. We could have made
• 24:10
  Speaker 7: some and that would be one of the only areas
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: I could think that maybe defensively they weren't really on
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: top of it.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, I applauded his comments about that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: I read what he said in the paper today too,
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and that shows yes to your point, Buck,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I think they could have done a better job. I
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: was surprised, honestly the Rams didn't do that more. That
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: guy's a good running back, and to try and do
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: that more maybe take some of the pressure off Stafford.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think that I think that's that's part
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: of the defense there that they're going to have to
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: against the team they chooses to run the ball and
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: run the ball well, that they're going to have to solidify.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: But you know, in the second quarter, as an example,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I think Chuck you alluded to it a little bit.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: They had the Rams had one yard and the Seahawks
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: had one hundred and twenty seven in the second old quarter,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: you know, so it was a different The Rams didn't
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: they didn't have the number of plays, They couldn't really
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: get going on offense the way they typically want to.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, there's there's very little, very little to
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: poke holes in the Seahawks defense, I think. But if
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: you're going to be sticky, that's one area that maybe
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: they can show up just a little bit.
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know, well, we're talking about Kyen Williams,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: the Rams leading running back. In the first quarter, he
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: had six attempts for seventy six yards, so he's he's
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: at twelve point seven average. And we talked about how
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: Ernest Jones had been out of gaps and Kobe Bryant
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: had mistackles on two of those long runs. But how
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: about this, No, he had They had no carries in
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: the second quarter, like Mike what you're saying about the
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: time of possession, and then for the third and fourth
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: quarter he had six carries and he had fifteen yards.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: So they just you know, this is a constant theme
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: with Mike McDonald that you'll see him give up a
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: long drive to start the game and then they just
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: button it up. Yep, and no more indicated than yesterday.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Mike Homngri and Hugh Millan with us here on Monday morning.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Quarterback. Yeah, no doubt about it. I do want to
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: ask both of you this question. Gray's abel went down
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: late in this game. He's been terrific in his rookie season.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think I would give the loss away if I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: found out today that Gray's Abel was okay and ready
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to go the rest of the year. But it might
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: not be the case. So I'll start with you, Coach,
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: and then go to you, Hugh, just the how big
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of a loss that could potentially be for a team
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: that finally spent a first round pick on an offensive
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: lineman and that guy was just performing so well, Yeah,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: he really was.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: And and if I don't know if you guys have
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: heard anything or we know anything about the injury, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: if it keeps him out for any length of time,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that's a big hit because that he is. You get
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: an offensive lineman, and their offensive line is stuck together
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: all season so far. You start losing some people like
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: their center, like like Zabel, you know, then all of
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: a sudden it changes you. You know, it's not the
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: next it's the next guy up. You want to say that,
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: but it changes. And so I'm hopeful, hoping for the
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: best for this young man. Have you guys heard anything
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: about it yet?
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Just what Greg told us earlier that it doesn't look good,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: but they didn't. They didn't speculate afterwards. It just was
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I don't know if there was a real positive feeling
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: afterwards that he's fine.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Well if if they that'll be a big hit. Well,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: and Mike has shown the team has shown real resilience
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: in handling injury situations. But it's still a big hit
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: when you lose a lignment like that.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, And I think it's compounded that you had
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: this situation. You know, Sundel and Zabel had played together
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: as we all know, at North Dakota State, and so
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: they had this kind of you know, telepathy with each
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: other and they're both high IQ guys. Now with the center,
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: we don't know when Sundell's coming back, but Alua, Timmy,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: and then the other part of it is Christian Haynes.
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: He's been a right guard almost exclusively as a Sea
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Hawk when when he was at Yukon he was right
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: guard for four years. So now Mike, he's going to
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: left guard. His reps at left guard, it's probably you know,
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: for every fifty reps he has as a right guard
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: in his career, he's got no more than one, probably
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: more like one hundred to one, so that that can
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: be a challenge too, going over that left side.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question, and you know it kills me
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: when the well he's the right guard. Left guard is
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: a guard. No, you get used to playing on the
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: right side with your hand a certain way and footwork
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: a certain way. You have to move over the left side.
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: You can do it. You know, he's a big, strong
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: offensive lineman. But it is different and there are challenges
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: and it's just not automatic.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, coming up on the other side, we
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: got one last thing for a coach, and you heard
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: him earlier. I think he pretty much said he was
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: going to rip the heart out of NFL officials.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: So yeah, talk about a cliffhanger.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: We're going to get the actual result next sports something
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: like that, something similar to that.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I might be embellishing a little bit here, coach, but anyway,
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: we're going to get to that next on KJAR.
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: All right, final.
• 29:53
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• 30:13
  Speaker 2: for one last thing, Bucky, what do you got for coach?
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Coach?
• 30:16
  Speaker 7: Alan prest Are you with Aj Barner? A big game yesterday,
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: the biggest game of his career as a professional. I
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: mean it comes in a loss, but at the same
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: time finding his way open. He seems to be more
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: and more comfortable, and it's always a nice thing to
• 30:29
  Speaker 7: have as an outlet. There is a nice tight end
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: that you feel comfortable that they're going to catch it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know they came into this season,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I think with a group of tight ends and someone
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: had they felt had to emerge, and he has done
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: that and I personally think that is a huge part
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: of your passing game. I've always said that sometimes you
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: don't sometimes you get a blocking tight end. But this guy,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: I think can do it all. And let's take away
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: the touch push for a second. But I think is
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: a tight end that he's the real deal and he's
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: going to be good for a long time.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: Here what he got for coach?
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: I would like to ask you, Mike. Of course we're
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: getting new information every week, but give us an update
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: about how you feel about the running backs for the Seahawks.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And if you're coaching this team, would you be using
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: using them the way you're what you're seeing or would
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: you be using them differently?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: And if so, how so.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: I would I'd be using Walker more. And that's that's
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: my takeaway from it. I think he's really good and
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: he you know, he's We've talked about this before on
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: the air. I think he's really good and he is good,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: and but they've chosen I maybe it's a health thing,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: maybe it's I don't know what what the rationale is.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I would ask Mike that if I saw him, you know,
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: but he Walker yesterday, you saw it on occasion, that
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: he can bust things right away. He can change the
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: game for you right away. And that's taking nothing away
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: from Charbonnay. I think he's good, but he's the second guy,
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: you know, and so I played the first guy more
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and you.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Know, Mike.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: Just to put that into context, I looked up your
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: your two thousand year Super Bowl year with us with
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: the Seahawks. Yeah, obviously, Sean Alexander three hundred and seventy
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: carries mo Morris, the number two guy, had seventy so
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: he had nineteen percent. Morris had nineteen percent of the
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: carries that Sean had, whereas Charbonney has seventy seven percent
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: of K nine. Now, I'm you know, say, well, there
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: are different players.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's a that's a big difference.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think, you know, Hugh, I think it's
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: you look at every team now is playing going with
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: two backs most teams, so that there's a difference there.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm still kind of curious as to why. You know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: I think it's maybe I don't know, I don't have
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: an answer for that, but I play Walker Moore.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I hope Sean Alexander still sends you Christmas cookies every
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: year for how many balls do you give it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: He's got to take care of his family, you know,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: he's got he's got twenty seven kids. Where you know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Something, all right, well, what is this bone you've got
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: to pick this week with NFL officials and keep in
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: mind Hughes in the room.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I know, I think they're great. I love
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: those guys. They never make mistakes. You know, I don't
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: know you misunderstood what I said. I think and explain
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: explain this to me. They have this new thing where
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: they check they they put that line for first downs.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: They did it yesterday, you know, from the from the
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: technical stuff. But if the guy, if if the official
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: places the ball wrong and they say, oh no, we'll
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: check it with this line, what does that have to
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: do with the he placed it wrong, he missed it. Yeah,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I don't get that. Explain you would you explain that
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: to me?
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: Listen?
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: It all everything, all the answer to all your official
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: questions comes back to if they're full time officials and
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: they're doing virtual reality all day, their eyes are going
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: to be faster. It's like, like I honestly, I I
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: don't even understand. I think anybody who disagrees with that
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: statements should be institutionalized. It's it's so axiomatic that I like,
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  Speaker 6: I share your exasperation, but I'm I'm perhaps more exasperated
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  Speaker 6: because I feel like there's at least a solution that
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: should be tried.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Chuck, I'm sorry I brought that up,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: but you know I wanted to hear what you I
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: didn't know what you thought about this.
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  Speaker 6: All these years. Yeah, tired of beating I ran about it.
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  Speaker 6: So Yeah, I needed another fresh ran. Yeah, you stop
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: beating around the bush. Finally tell us what you really feel. Hey,
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to lose the last minute. I don't want
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: to end on a somber note. This is happening way
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  Speaker 6: too frequently.
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  Speaker 2: But Hugh, I'm sure you got some great member memories
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  Speaker 2: of Kenny Easley as a Seahawk fan here in town,
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  Speaker 2: and we lost him over the weekend, and so I
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: didn't know if you wanted to share a thing or
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: two a memory about Kenny Easily before we came.
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  Speaker 6: I think he played in an era, Mike, you remember, Uh,
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  Speaker 6: you know, it was just different then because they didn't
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  Speaker 6: protect receivers, so it was kind of the the way
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  Speaker 6: was like, hey, you're value to be a headhunter, and
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  Speaker 6: if it's helmet to helmet contact and the guy gets
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: knocked out, so be it. It was just a different style.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 6: And and so he was a great athlete with a
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  Speaker 6: headhunter mentality and uh, you know, just solid. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: put it this way. Ronnie lott Mike, you know, he
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: said the one guy that he modeled his game after
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  Speaker 6: was Kenny Easily And that should tell you everything, you know,
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  Speaker 6: because Ronnie Lott is is generally regarded as the greatest
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: safety you ever played.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, the game has changed, and
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  Speaker 3: he was very physical and so valuable to the Seahawks
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  Speaker 3: in those days. So anytime I reach something like that
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  Speaker 3: from a young man younger than me, certainly that has
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  Speaker 3: passed on, you know, there's a certain sadness. But he'll
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  Speaker 3: be remembered as one of the great ones all time.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, gentlemen. You're both two of the great ones.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate it and we will talk to you again soon.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks chun.
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  Speaker 5: All right, Okay, Monday.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Morning Quarterback comes to a close here on another Monday. Unfortunately,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: we had a loss to talk about, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of great analysis there from Greg from coach and from Hugh.
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