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NFL Week 1 TNF Showdown | Cowboys @ Eagles | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone, Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: Hoopster and my main man title. Last time we saw
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  Speaker 1: a title by the way, the Eagles were playing and
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  Speaker 1: he was collecting one hundred and thirteen K. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a worthy conversation to have. We'll talk about it in
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  Speaker 1: We back, we rocking Dak. I see you over there.
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  Speaker 1: What's up man, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Back and rocking deck? Yeah, I mean, uh had had
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  Speaker 2: to pull out the jersey. I mean we got the
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  Speaker 2: the opening game the Cowboys and Eagles not wearing this
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  Speaker 2: because I'm a Cowboys fan like you gotta. You have
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  Speaker 2: to have been with us for a little while to understand.
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  Speaker 2: But it was. It wasn't last years two seasons ago,
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  Speaker 2: where we were making a shit ton of money playing
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  Speaker 2: Dak Prescott because for some reason no one was playing them.
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  Speaker 2: The Cowboys would just continue to throw, they did not
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  Speaker 2: run the ball at all, and we played Dak every week.
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  Speaker 2: And there's definitely some life changing money in there. I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of one hundred thousand dollars wins from
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  Speaker 2: our guy Dak. So I said, all right, enoughe and off,
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  Speaker 2: he's made us too much money to not invest in
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  Speaker 2: the jersey. So I went out got the jersey. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, that's the side story obviously behind the doc jersey.
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  Speaker 2: this year and man, it feels good to have real football.
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  Speaker 2: The preseason, all that shit doesn't matter. It's real football.
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  Speaker 2: It starts today and I couldn't be more excited.
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  Speaker 1: see you. But shout out to everybody there. Got to
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? That works. We can go through and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to title. You know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: last time you saw the Eagles was very nice. The
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  Speaker 1: Worthy bomb, I will say two cents on it. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was probably one of the nicest touchdown passes
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  Speaker 1: in Super Bowl history. But the most you're out like
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It was way too late for that.
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  Speaker 1: But what a pass, what a catch? It was just perfect,
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  Speaker 1: drop it right in a bucket. Obviously it helped your scenario.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen winners chopped up around one hundred and thirteen chopped
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  Speaker 1: up milli plus for one hundred and thirteen K. But
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  Speaker 1: what's your first time of the season Grand Scheme overview
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  Speaker 1: when you're looking at this slate because I love this slate.
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  Speaker 1: You probably know why, But what's your thoughts on this
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  Speaker 1: slate coming into game number one here, Well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Just want to talk about that kind of specifically, and
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  Speaker 3: the fact you could not have got that slate anymore right.
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  Speaker 3: You were all Eagles. You literally xed out every Chief.
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  Speaker 3: Eagles will dominate. Everything you said was right. The thing is,
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  Speaker 3: in football, it's four quarters. The last quarters counts the
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  Speaker 3: same as the first quarter. Now most games, those guys
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  Speaker 3: probably would have been pulled. I truly believe if the
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  Speaker 3: or if the Eagles did not go forward on that
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  Speaker 3: fourth down it was fourth and six at midfield, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if they would have sent them back out,
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  Speaker 3: Like you need so much stuff to happen. But what
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying this is you can have the Eagles dominate
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  Speaker 3: all of that and you need it. Xavier Worthy at
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  Speaker 3: captain kind of a similar spot today. The spread was
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  Speaker 3: obviously a lot closer in that game, but it got
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  Speaker 3: out of hand quickly. If the Eagles are up twenty one,
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  Speaker 3: whatever it may be, you can still see CD pickins, etc.
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  Speaker 3: It takes one play for seventy yards. If the Cowboys
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  Speaker 3: are trailing all game and they just drop back and
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  Speaker 3: throw every time, sure the Eagles guys can get there
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  Speaker 3: and stuff, but a late CD touchdown for a second
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  Speaker 3: to get the bonus, or pickins or Jaden Blue will
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  Speaker 3: Shipley like random stuff can happen in these showdown games. Again,
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  Speaker 3: it's a lot of dupe stuff. For me, I will say,
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  Speaker 3: the contests are so big now, some slates you don't
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  Speaker 3: want to chop eighty ways. I promise you if you
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  Speaker 3: chop eighty ways today, you'll probably be pretty happy. But
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  Speaker 3: pricing is also very soft. That's the first thing that
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  Speaker 3: stands out to me. Another interesting thing is eight and
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  Speaker 3: a half point favorites is the Eagles, which is the
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  Speaker 3: biggest of Week one. It's still like three to three
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  Speaker 3: for main builds, and you will see some four two Cowboys. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: some four to two Eagles five to one Eagles. Lower
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  Speaker 3: than I expected initially, but it makes sense. We talk
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  Speaker 3: about it a lot with this Eagles team. They're so condensed.
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  Speaker 3: It's Hurts, it's Saquon, it's Devonte Smith, it's Goddard, it's
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  Speaker 3: aj Brown. Like the Dotsons, the backup running backs, they
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  Speaker 3: just don't have as many normal or like safe options
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  Speaker 3: options you feel good about as the Cowboys as other
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  Speaker 3: teams there. Since you know who the running back is
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  Speaker 3: you know, the main two guys is, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, very interesting slate.
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  Speaker 3: Even though we have big favorite in the Eagles, you
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  Speaker 3: could easily see something like a two four and get
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: different roster construction of five to one eagles.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: That's different today and.
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: Not many would expect that, I guess just looking at
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: the slate in the total right away.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Who do you got a sort of
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: grand scheme over there? I saw you chuckle over there.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: I know exactly what it is about. Our man Sheets, who,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: by the way, is doing a ton of stuff with
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: us now over on the site, we have a pools
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: for the big survivors with the tool the analysis. He's
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: done some tutorials for people that are looking to get
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: better at sabersim. I mean, there's tons of two tour
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: stuff out there, but if you're looking how people actually
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: apply their process to it, he's doing that. But he's
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: talking about old Duke twenty four to ten. That's what
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: he's talking about, and yo still gets the job done.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: You're you love collecting twenty thirty forty k. Well, everybody
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: says it's too choky, and you're like, Okay, my money's
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: too chocky, let's go. What's what's the thoughts on that one?
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I'll take I'll take green whenever I can get green. However,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: however I gotta get there, I will not I will
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: not be mad, and hopefully that continues this year, that
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: is for sure. But in regards to this game, you know,
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: I think the one thing that definitely stands out to
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: me right out of the gate at captain, there's just
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: so many names on this slate, so many big names
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: that people know and recognize. It's not like a I
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: don't know, Buffalo Bill slate where if you're you're playing
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Bills captain teams like, there's not many guys on the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Bills that can go off and be the captain you need,
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: so you just kind of default to Josh Allen on
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: this late Each side has so many guys that are
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: in play, you know, I think captain gets spread out
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But the lean for me, the lean
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: in terms of ownership, has to just be the Eagle side.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: People are going to naturally go to the Eagles at
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: captain because they're eight and a half point favorites, they're
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: projected to score around twenty nine points actual points. Well,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys are projected to score right around twenty. So
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: that's something I definitely want to look to take advantage of.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe take a look at some of these
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Cowboy captains and then maybe you know, some of the
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: guys that could potentially be like a little lower owned.
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: I think like DeVonta Smith has a chance to go
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: overlooked in captain and to some degree, I think even
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: like you know, George Pickens, there's uncertainty there and people
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: if they're like, all right, if I'm going to go
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: Cowboys passing game, it just has to be ceedee lamb.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: So I'm going to go there. In regards to the
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: game overall, I mean we're not, you know, giving sports
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: betting advice, but I think it's too wide of a spread.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, eight and a half to me, I think
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: is too much. So I think it could be a
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: closer sort of game. So I'm going to fact that
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: in a little bit when building teams. But I mean
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: the main thing is like total talked about. I mean,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: the variance in this is so damn high, Like one
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: play totally changes everything that happens in Showdown. That's why
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's such an exciting format. For so many people.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: It's like literally every single play on the slate could
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: dictate who wins and loses. I mean, a five yard
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: dump off at the end of the game could dictate,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: you know, who's at the top and how big the
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: chop is. It's just a it's a fun format to
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: play for dfs. But my takeaways for sure, our captain
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: probably gets spread out a little bit with the lean
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: to the eagle side in terms of ownership, and then
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I just think the game probably plays out a little
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: bit closer. I mean that's just a gas like I'm
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: not betting the Cowboys or anything like that, but I
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: think it could be closer than the spread actually indicates here.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think that's part of it.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: I guess, like a commonality or a thing that I'm
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: going to hear a bunch today and people always says, oh,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: like everyone gives their guy a smith or pickens or whatever.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh, but I heard some people
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: talking him up. He's gonna get steamed. It's like they
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: can't all get steamed to a number. And we just
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: know because you can go run things like you've got
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: it up there, Like it's very easy to get to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: hurt some Barkley on this slate. But one thing we
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: talk about a ton is, you know, just different conversations
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: we'll have and obviously playing the game and we're all
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: trying to win as much money as possible. To help
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the community win as much money as possible. Is little extras.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: And for me on this slate title, it's like I
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: call it a combinational ownership. Like if you put Hurts
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: up top, you know, it's like the way to get
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: it to happen, especially if you have Barkley in the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: flex is the guys like Turpin or whoever, those guys
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: ship Lee's whatever. So it's like you don't back yourself
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: into a corner that could be what you end up needing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: If that value play gets there, it makes that much
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: more likely to happen. But people aren't really thinking of
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it in that they're like, Okay, I got this, I
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: got this. That makes it all work. You're using the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: same glue. It's just being passed around the table the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: same glue stick or the thing. Like we're back to
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: school up up here, but you're just using the same
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: stuff to make it work. So that's what puts you
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: into that corner. I believe you're worthy lineup, by the way,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: and you might have mentioned it because we're in a
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: headspin here, but I think it was a two to
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: four with like twelve hundred bucks left on the table.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: So there's my man title. I'll get to have him
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: back and say this with him here. There's levels to this, right,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I was about to get into the penthouse in my
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: my show with may own score up Patrol last week.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: But it's like there was you know, going to chiefs Captains,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: was okay worthy? Was he getting steamed? Not really? Seven percent?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: I could see some of these guys tonight, like a
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Devonte a pay oh they got they're getting steamed.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: None.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: They only came in at like seven to nine percent,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: like some of these dudes. And then it was just
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: how you built it. But it was like then two four,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: that's a level. Then it's like leave twelve hundred bucks,
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: that's a level. And I think oftentimes people just think
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: of it like, well, obviously you can. Anybody, idiot can
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: leave money. There's more to the levels.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: There's more defense too, like anti correlation and showdown you
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: like you're yeah, I mean you're not doing that on
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: a main slate with twelve games or whatever it. I mean,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: I guess you can't like some saber line was my
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: projectivy plus ROI it's not really, it's very minuscule at best.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: You don't.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: It takes one play for defense, a kick return, the
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: double dip like the turping Cowboys d little stuff like that. Yeah,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of stuff can happen in a showdown.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: It's the most random thing, and that's why when a
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff's random, mma, et cetera.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: When you win, how much do you win? That's a
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: lot of what I focus on here.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: But with the contest sides, it's a lot bigger than
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: we usually see, like fifty five thousand. Sometimes we'll see
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on a Sunday seventy eight thousand, et cetera. I mean,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: we're over one hundred and fifty thousand people. I do
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: raise the dupe count, where again, i'll Hoop says it,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: he'll take any green.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: I'll take any green too.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But eighty dupes today would feel a lot better than
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: eighty dupes on a random Thursday night in week six,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: So I also think about that as well.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: A lot more casuals will be playing today.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep it moving. Our guy sheets is in
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there again, says I will throw this in. When teams
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: are eight point favorites, people play showdown lineups assuming they
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: win by eight, and a ton of builds assuming they
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: win by fifteen, but not too many assuming they win
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: by one.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that was that was kind of the point
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: that I was, you know, kind of making. I mean,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: people look at the spread and they build their teams
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like that and then to the next level like she's
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the same here. It's like, Okay, yeah, they're gonna win
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: by eight or touchdown to two touchdowns. Essentially they're not
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: ever really building teams or the overall field is not
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: building the teams like it's a close game where they
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: win by one, two or three. And that's that's a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: really good point, Like I just looking at this, you know,
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: especially in the captain flex is a little bit different
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: because I think when you get to the flex that
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that's where prices might come into play, like a little
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: bit more in the salaries of guys, but especially in
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the captain Like I just know for a fact that
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: it's going to be heavy Jalen Hurts and Sakuon Barkley
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: in that spot and that's what initial ownership is kind
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: of telling us. So there is opportunities to take advantage.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And I agree, it's your point. Two. People talk, oh
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: so and so is gonna get steamed up, like to
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: what point? Like all right, right now we're showing DeVonta
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Smith at four percent, Like what's the highest he goes?
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Often seven percent or something like that. I think that's
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: pretty fair, Like, Okay, he's still a low owned captain
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: for his upside in my eyes. So people get caught
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: up on the fractional percentage points like way too much
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: when going through this.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, another point on that djenism again shout out
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to our guy. But you know, ownership is leverage. My
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: man Shaloub was on a show of me recently talking
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: about that and he had said that was one thing
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: that James sort of just drilled in people's heads. Okay,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: if you think he gets steamed to eight percent or nine,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you still like him, Go get eighteen, go get twenty,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Like you can control what you're doing in the back end.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It's your money, it's your investment, it's your way. So
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's super important. Before I kick it back
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to the title, I want to say this season. We
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: got to get these likes rolling again, almost three hundred
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: people watching. We will announce Golden Ship at number one winner.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: When we get one hundred and fifty likes. It's half
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the people in there, and you're already at almost one hundred,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: so I'm going easy on you on the first one.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Let's get to one hundred and fifty likes and then
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: we will announce Golden Ship it number one winner title.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Do you have further thoughts now that we're talking about it?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Just at captain like you and I will typically play
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: more off the board. Who likes to play, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and stuff, and like I know Sheets is
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: making fun of them. I think who plays tournaments quite well.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Somebody said it that Millie sure wasn't duped, which is
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: hilarious because there was a super dupe behind him that day.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: That's irony of twenty five twenty five lineups the same,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: and it was ahead.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Of me all day and obviously you have been if
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: you head right behind that guy.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Mad I was there until that last Jacob's touchdown, just
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: looking at twenty five of the exact same that would
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: have been. Yeah, that's that's uh, that's life changing. When
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: people say life changing situation. That's definitely life changing. When
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: you go from I mean really twenty six in the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: MILLI is probably breaking even. I would have been broken
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: even that day versus winning over a million bucks. It is.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: It is one mad being the other guy.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he still did okay, right, well, sure, sure
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: he did okay, but went in like one point four million,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I think, or will point three some crazy.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, so anytime you get a good beat, always remember
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: there's someone on the other side and we play. We
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: play enough, we're on both sides. I know, Tambo, I
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: think this might be your year because you ran pretty
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: poor at the end and a lot of stuff last
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: show down.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Here, but little Jordan Humphreys.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: The worst was that? Was it? The one hundred dollars
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Milly they had at the end where you had you
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: were sitting in like twentieth with just so much.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Uh well he had multiple showdown.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah that that that one was the worst. One hundred
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: dollars and Melley one was the worst.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: You were in, poor little Jordan.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: No one had any time ahead of you. You had
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: four studs going and they all just fizzle out at that.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: You text to me more excited than I was, and
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, he's actually right, Like Hoop
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: was watching it even and that tells you. I was like, damn,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: he's got He's right. So now I got to start
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: sweating this and I don't think it could have went worse.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But that's why we got the sign. Nobody cares work harder,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: we keep it moving. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: That's what we know. We love NFL season. This is
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: our passion. We really thank everybody for all the support
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that always hops into support us, help us out be
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: in here smashing the light. And that's why we do
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: things like ship at games. That's why we bring up
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the contest, That's why we do it all. So three
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: lights away, But title back to you. What I was
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: trying to say is is it like the reason you
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: and I are usually aligned as a slate like this,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: because like automatic, we're just looking to say, like let's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: go the opposite. But people think it's like in a
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: malicious way or like a bad way, like just play opposite,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you'll eventually get it right. It's like no, we're looking
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: for different angles within that. Hoop crushes me week over
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: week on like if I'm like I'm just fading Jalen Hurts.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, I'm definitely not doing that. That guy's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: one of the best plays on the slate. And I'm
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: just like, I'll look for different ways. I'm gonna change
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: my strategy a little bit this year just from digging in,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you know now with saber and portfolio diversification some of
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm looking at. I think there's ways
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: that I sort of can take from my PGA brain
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: of like being underweight on Jalen Hurts today like I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: most likely will be, but just playing him in different
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: ways and still allowing that to trickle into my portfolio
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: versus just full on stands the Super Bowl. I like
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: the full stand. I'm gonna stick with that, but like
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: that is a little bit different. So what are you
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: seeing at, Captain, and then we'll keep it moving. If
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: there's position, my position stuff you want to bring into it,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: by all means, go ahead.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent with you on that. There's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: levels to get Like from what Cheeta is saying, Sheets
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: doesn't even know who the player, or he knows, but
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: he doesn't want to know who the players. The team's
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: all this the process Rio he blends them both. I
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: try and be more like a Rio. Sometimes I even
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: use more I know ball, which it costs me because
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: usually I don't know ball as much. I'm trying to
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: even go a little more to the process based because
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: the portfolio of diversification is huge. You can play a
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: chalky hurt whatever it is and get different elsewhere. And
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: I mean it's, like I said, very very powerful tool today.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: What I do know I want I want to be
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: underweight quarterbacks at captain. I want to be overweight skill
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: position players. So I'm going to play I'm the overweight
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: saque Aj Brown CD full point PPR. You just hope
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: if AJ catches ten for two or CD goes ten
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: for two, if any of that happens, I have a
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: hard time seeing hert stack those guys outscore them at
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: the captain position. It is interesting though, like I'm definitely
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: playing some Hurtz captain. He's minus one fifty to score
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: and that's on the ground.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Obviously, the tush push is always big. A lot of variants.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Do they fall at the one, is it a pass
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: interference in the end zone, or is it at the four?
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: And Saquon gets them that way I'm gonna be hoping
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: it's Saquon. I'm gonna again playing Saquon CD Brown. I
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: mean seeing Pickens at six percent, I'll probably be somewhere
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: around there, eight percent, Devonte five. Like it takes one bomb.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: He had that botom in the Super Bowl. Now it
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: wasn't enough to get there at Captain. But my thoughts
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: right now, overweight, especially Saquon Brown CD. And then I'll
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: be underweight them in the Flex because I don't either
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: want them to fully get there or not as or
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: not as much and maybe just not be optimal. So
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: I'll be overweight quarterbacks in the flex, underweight them captain,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: I'll be overweight the skill position players. And like I
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: don't love the idea of playing like I mean, Turpin
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: is gonna be popular, but these ungs down below, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: don't even love Goddard Ferguson in the Captain, Like I
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: want to play these big boy guys. I think one
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: of them go off for probably twenty five plus and
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: you'll need them up top.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things I'm thinking, I'm gonn announce
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: this in a second. You guys hit it for us.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Let's keep it rolling. When we get to two fifty.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: We'll we'll do a little bit more, but for now,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: let's just keep it rolling with those likes. But I
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: will say the setup on the Chief Captains don't love
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: it at all. Like it just even if you get
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: there with it, it's the same thing in reverse, like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you're flipping it. Like once you put a turpin up top,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it's gonna end up being with Hertz Barkle. Like if
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: you're doing that, you can do it. Just I think
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that's when you're leaving like two grand on the table
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: or something, then you just have to make a call.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Even then, you still got to get a lot of
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: things to go your way for that to be the case.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: The one thing I will say though, before I announced
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: the first winner and then go to Hoop, is that
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on this slate, it's also the first came back of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the season, So I, like Hoops said, it's not about
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: the sports betting. So I think that the Eagles could
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: still come in and pound them. I don't really care.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna build lineup succordingly, let my portfolio do the talking.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: But I definitely think it could be interesting where you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: it is a bit of ag fest and we have
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: more field goals and things like that, Like I don't
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: know about the total just yet. That's the possibility as well,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So I have some thoughts on that more. But who
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: before I go to you, let's get to it. This
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• 30:01
  Speaker 1: can still get in the games if you're already in
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: the games. There's a ton of time left. This is
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  Speaker 1: one of fifty. So if you know anything about live finals,
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  Speaker 1: Hoopster's point. Hoop any extra thoughts on that, and then
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you can hit hit your captain thoughts up as we
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: keep it moving.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to Joe, first Golden ship at winner. Excited
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to get this kicked off and he'll have a chance
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  Speaker 2: at that top prize, which you know can only go
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• 30:44
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  Speaker 2: eighty thousand at that point, so it can only go up.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: This is the bare minimum it will be. And congratulations
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: to Joe. That's awesome. Excited for him and.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Just there I will say that that's what's coming up next.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: So for those to know the biggest the I think
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  Speaker 1: the best game each week, if you could win one,
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• 31:37
  Speaker 1: structure that we've got there. I'll let you bring Sabersim
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: back up here and talk through your captains.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, I just you just know looking
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: at this and the ownership says it. I mean a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: lot of teams are going to be hurt Sparkley off top.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I mean we're showing right now about thirty five thirty
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: six percent combined to ownership between those two. I think
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that's probably pretty accurate. I could see it coming up
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: maybe a little bit I think it's probably ended up
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: being between thirty five and forty. So I think it's
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: a big talking point between those two guys. And I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: actually kind of agree on the on the Hurts thing,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: like I don't love him up top, I'm gonna play them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, the number that that title laid out minus
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: one fifty score is insane. I mean the thing about
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: running quarterbacks, if they score early on their their feet
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: once like one rushing touchdown, kind of you know they're
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: they're in the driver's seat to be the leading scorer
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: on the on the slate, it's easy for them to
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: kind of get there. So I'll play them, but I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: don't think I'm gonna go like crazy overweight as it
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: stands now. I mean, I haven't built my teams. Things
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: can change. The slave plan will kind of reflect everything.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: But you know, if deciding between those two, I'd rather
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: go heavy Barkley over Hurts. I am, And it's not
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: a bias or anything. I guess maybe it is a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: little little bit because you know, I have his jersey on,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: and these won us money. I do think he's a
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: shitty quarterback, and you know, the Cowboys will never win
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: anything substantial with him as their quarterback. But I do
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like Dak captain teams a little bit today for the
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: same reason. I just think they're gonna pass the ball
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: a ton, Like the running backs are absolute shit. We'll
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: talk about it when we get there. And there's like
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: four to five random dudes that are playing running back
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: for the Cowboys. I think they're gonna pass a ton,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: even in like neutral situations, and then if they get
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: playing from behind, I think they're just gonna pass anymore.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So like, I really think he could get there in
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: garbage time and have a big game and a lot
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: of different ways to pair him up. Obviously, you can
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: play him with with CD and the flax with Pickens,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: Ferguson or some of like the cheaper random dudes. A
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: lot of different ways to play Dak captain teams. But
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I do like him up top, And you know, after
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: talking about that, the jersey's definitely coming up. So when
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: I'm coming off, So when I'm done with this, I'm
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: making a wardrobe change because I do not want to
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: wear this any longer. But I do have interest in him.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: I think the DeVonta Smith thing is interesting him up top.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Pickens I think is low on two. I mean we're
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: showing eight, Saber has it at six. I think it's
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: probably pretty accurate. I think it could come down a
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: little bit. I mean, people are gonna want to play Hurts, Barkley, CD,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: probably AJ Brown, probably Dak like everyone else has to
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: come in pretty darn low. So I'm kind of I'm
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: in on the Pickens thing. And then the other guy
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that I have interested in is Ferguson. I think Ferguson
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: could have a big season. I'm gonna play into the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Cowboys passing a ton. If it works cool, I'll be
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: in a good spot. If it doesn't, We're onto another
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: show on Slate tomorrow. Like that's the beauty of Showdown,
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: beauty of the NFL. Like make your stands, make your plays.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: If it works out cool, you might have a chance.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't, can move on to the next slape.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: But I do like I do like Ferguson up top,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: So I am gonna lean on Dallas passing game in
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the captain spot quite a bit. That'll probably be like
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: main my main stand this week and making sure I
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: get heavy exposure to everyone part of the Dallas passing
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the attack. Hope it's a high scoring closer game, but
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: if not, like even if the Cowboys are playing from behind,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: it's a good spot to be in too. So I
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: just think there's a lot of outs with Dallas Dallas passing,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: so kind of where I'm at. And like I said,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: I'll be doing the slate plan and all my final
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: thoughts will will be updated shortly after the show with
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: like rankings and our cores and all that, so make
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: sure to head on over to the website and check
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: it all out.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll get final thoughts and the title can take
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: it for running backs because quarterbacks we kind of lumped
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: into this anyway, and we still got fan duel later
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and all that. But I just think for me it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: gonna be I'm definitely gonna underweight on Hurts and Barkley.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I think there's some spiite there too. By the way,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: with the old Tushbush trying to get banned, Like, we're
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: going to show you how this thing works one more
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: season at least, let's show you this. But that's just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: what it is. I'm going to hope that they show
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: up in the flex a little bit more. That's my
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: take on it. I think up top dak ce D Lamb.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: I think Pickens, DeVonta Smith, and then I think even like, uh,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: what's the other guy just head up here, Jake Elliott.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I like kicker builds too, like I said, like I said,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: if it's gonna be failures at the start of the season,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: I still feel like it will favor that side. But
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I think both. I mean, Hoop, you used to be
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: the game log checker that DraftKings went and mess that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: all up on us and has this crazy new look
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: when you go do it. It exists, I know, but
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's different than what it was used
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: to used to be. But I think Aubrey and Elliott
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: were like top tier fantasy points scorers last year in
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the kicking game, and if you got Dak not getting
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: there as much, I think the you know, that's one
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: quick note. But on the Mica thing, I saw some
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: people talking about, like Eagles up top, I don't know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: like he can throw a couple of picks and still
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: be involved more than you think. I think there's a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: situation where also Dak could end up being That's why
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: I like Dak up top is it could end up
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: being like a Joe Burrow situation. Title like, yeah, you
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: got everything, but what you actually need, so you end
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: up like you scored twenty five thirty. They'll you got
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to keep up with that, and can they do it?
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's against the Eagles. I'm just saying
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that's what keeps him more involved. He can be like
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: a You want to compare him the other way and
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: make him like a Jameis Winston tonight, maybe he throws
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: a couple of picks but still comes through in the
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: clutch and drows three hundred yards in a couple touchdowns
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: and runs one in. I'm just saying those types of
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: things are how I would think of it, versus worrying
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: about the defense. But any anything can happen in a
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: game like this.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I did want to point out because I do have
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: these teams and I ran them, and this is just
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: by a projected score, so I haven't done anything, not
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: saber score, not contest since just by projected score. So
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: it's going to take the highest projected guys and you know,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: kind of figure out the best lineups. Barkley thirty one percent,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts twenty one, Ferguson ten, CD Lamb nine, so
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: that you can see you know, any sort of way
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: you shake it like it's going to want you to
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: put in Barkley and Hurts in that captain spot. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: fifty percent of my one P fifty has Hurts and
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Barkley captain teams. Yeah, projected score.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: That is the members are out there talking about it now.
• 37:57
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• 37:59
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• 38:21
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  Speaker 1: like we're kind of I don't know, we're skipping Cordonack.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: We talked about Dak even in the Captain. We talked
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: about hurts and whatever our stances are. You talked about
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: his odds. Maybe take us through this running back situation though,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: because you saw Shipley on there. You see him right now.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: He's there on the screen in front of you, a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: bunch there and then the other side is Javonte Williams. Again,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: does the game script flip? Probably not, but if it does,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: and people are talking about rain and different facts, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: do you think there's any chance you have a guy
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: like him getting there? Because I think I got a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: little interest as well. I know it's off the board
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: from what most are doing, but I do think he's
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: at least somewhat interesting in the top as well.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be overweight Chavonte Williams for sure. So they
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: got three guys Jaden Blue, Miles Sanders and Javonte Williams
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: and we're showing all the talk all summer has been
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: like Javonte Williams backfield. They didn't play any admitted preseason.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: It seems real clear they feel confident in him. And
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: the weird thing is or Javonte five to four Blue
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: five K, Sanders four K. So like the backup RB two,
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: RB three, they're not free by any means, which is
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: why a lot of people are going turpin for their value, etc.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Because he's two point eight k. That two K savings
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: plus does a lot. I'm gonna hardly have any Blue
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: and Sanders. It is a way to get different in
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: large field tournaments, for sure. When you play it, I
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: think you're playing probably they just get blown out and
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: maybe a five to one Eagles and then you go
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: that way or a four to two something. I just
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: don't see them really having much impact. And again it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: week one. I'm guessing. I don't totally could be wrong,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: but it feels very obvious to me what the Cowboys
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: want to do. Five point four k for a starting
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: running back seems too cheap his ownership. You have about
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: thirty percent in the flex. I can get over that
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: pretty easily. So I will be playing a good amount
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: of Javonte. I'm not gonna be playing much Blue. I'm
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: not gonna be playing much Sanders. Other side, Like I said,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I prefer Saque my captain and I do flex obviously
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: have plenty, but I'll probably be overweight captain underweight flex.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I will be playing a decent amount of Will Shipley
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: though he's two K. So get we know who the
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: backup running back is. No, yes, Saquon will have a
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: lot more carries than Javonte. They can mix it up
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: more in the Cowboys backfield, but they I mean, anytime
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Shipley gets the ball, he actually is good. If they're
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: up two touchdowns, it's week one, Like why not mix
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: in Shipley a little bit? We remember Saquon from last
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: year sitting out like when he could have I don't
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: know if it was like broke the record that one
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: week or whatever. He's like, like put in Shipley when
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: they're up a ton. There's a lot of outside think
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: close game, maybe they use Shipley more than expected if
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: it's a blowout, why put Saquon in week one for
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: a chance at injury. I think Shifpley is a very
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: sharp play at two K, a pivot off a turpin.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I think you can get there in a close game,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: possibly can get there in a blowout. So I like
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Shipley a lot. And yeah, I mean I'm playing Javonte
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: and Shipley. They're my favorite two flex running backs for sure.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing much Blue, I'm not playing much Sanders.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, why is aj Dillon ONEK more than Will Shipley?
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Is my question? So I don't know about that.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: One famous last words, right, and then you I'll see
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: it happening. But I think this year I'm gonna try
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: not to like cover up someone's thoughts when they're phenomenal.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't really have much else to add, Like
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that's a good breakdown for me, So I'll add one
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: quick piece and then go to Hoopster on it if
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: he has anything. If not, we can go to wide receiver.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: But the one thing people are talking about is Hunter
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: because he's classified as a running back and he just
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: signed that contract yesterday. He's also cheap. But the one,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the note. But then the other
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: thing I wanted to add is like people always are
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: wondering about sort of roster construction and that, like on
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the cowboy side, it's you probably won't get it anyway,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: but it's kind of got to pick your poison. Are
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: almost the same price, it's gonna be Javonte for most.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I mean the chat knows. They've talked about it a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: bunch of I like Daniel's comments at Javonte should see
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a least fifty we are guessing, but hope for a
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: few catches. Maybe you know, he makes a lot of
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: sense at that price. But on the other side, like
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to your Shipley point, he's so cheap you can just
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: play him with Barkley, And especially if Barkley gets there early.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't even mean it. Actually, this is another tricky thing,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't mean everyone thinks like, oh, that must
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: mean Barkley did all the work. It could be Hurts
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: who crushed it. Barkley still need it because just the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: way the slape breaks down, but then Shipley comes in,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Layton does something, or it could be a different version
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of that. So there is other ways that it can
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: happen where both those running backs get there. And we
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: love that. From JP to Shiro, Jean Paul coming through
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the stone is why I joined. We think that's a
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: big deal. We talk about it a lot. We simplified
• 42:51
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• 42:54
  Speaker 1: or a hundred different people. You got to know stuff
• 42:55
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• 42:58
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• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Right now, you get the same stuff. You're getting the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: same people on these shows that you've had for years
• 43:07
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• 43:09
  Speaker 1: You're getting all that stuff, and all we do is
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: try and continue to improve and add on.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: So hoop oh, that was a good call on Lepkey.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I want you guys to both like, he's showing zero ownership.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: He's four hundred bucks one. We've seen if it's aj
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: Brown CD, like you need all the studs and four
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: hundred he gets you two point four points. We've seen
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: crazy things like that. He's the fullback, but he's an
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: athletic fullback. He can run routes. That was a very
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: interesting point. I overlooked it a little bit, but I
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: like that show.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes you get the paycheck and then you know, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: get him in the end zone a little flash. It's
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: say remember me, and it's like a fullback, right. I
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: think he's like, honestly, what was it, like the third
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: highest paid fullback now or something in the league. So
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: when you think about it, he's not the first one
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: that I go to it's nothing against him. It's just
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in my mind. If someone said, who do you think
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: is the top three paid fullbacks in the league, I
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: would not suspect that, but I guess it happens. Who
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts at running back? Anymore to add on there?
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: If not, we can go to wide receiver.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Although true difference I have is the Javonte Williams stuff.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just not super excited to play him. I'm going
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to have some because of the price, and like the
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: other guys here, and obviously, like it doesn't matter that
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: he's a running back, it's more relevant what his price is.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna have to compare him versus some wide
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: receivers versus some tight ends essentially, and like he's priced
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: right same price as the tight ends, and I just
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: prefer the tight ends, specifically Ferguson over him. I'll have some,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: but he's not going to be a big part of
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: what I do. I just don't know how you play
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: guys like Miles Sanders and Blue. Problem with those guys,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: even if they do find the end zone, Let's say
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: they just randomly find the end zone, like they're not
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: guaranteed to be on the winner and I just don't
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: know what sort of upset those guys have the Shipley call.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I agree. I'm with both of you guys on that.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: I think he's a phenomenal play At two K, he
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: can get there even if Barkley crushes Like Barkley could
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: absolutely crush it. He could still get there at the
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: end of this game or in maybe a two minute
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: drill at the end of the half. Like at two
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: K he can. He can get there in a variety
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: of ways, So you don't really need to be specific
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: about how you play them. Like, yes, ideally you would
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: want like probably Jalen Hurts to get a rushing touchdown
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: over sa Quon and then you have like Shiftley ready
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: to go. But can play them in a variety of
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: different ways, you know. I'm I guess like my only
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: main difference is I'm not as excited about Javonte Williams.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I'll play them out of necessity, but I think I
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: prefer others at that price point.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you got for wide receiver? Let's keep
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: it moving.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is a little bit difficult. I
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: mean when you look at it, because each team is
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: pretty condensed in terms of what they do or what
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: they're gonna do this year. It's like the wide receiver threes.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I don't envision having a big role on any either
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: of these teams. Like it's their two wide receivers and
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: then they're tight end. It is essentially wide receiver three
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: on both sides. So Ceedee Lamb, Love Pickens good with him,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: and then on the other side, AJ Brown, Devanta Smith.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I definitely prefer Ceedee Lamb and Pickens over AJ Brown
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: and Devanta kind of already talked about it. I'm just
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: in on this, this Cowboys passing attack and hope it
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: kind of works out. But like these other wide receivers
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: are pretty cheap, which brings them in play. Not excited
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: about them. It's probably like you're hoping for one play
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: sort of thing and they get it all there. But
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: like Tolbert and Turpin on the Dallas side, and then
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: you have I guess Dotson on the Philadelphia side, but
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: same situation. I prefer Turbin and Tolbert over Dotson. I
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: anticipate the Cowboys to be passing more, so I'm gonna
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: lean those guys. So overall, I guess when looking at
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: these wide receivers at every price point. I prefer the
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: Cowboys guys over the Eagles guys. In my own ship
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: will reflect that as well.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have too much to add, and then
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you title if you've got more,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but just one thing going. And now it like circles
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: me back to the Captain thoughts or even MVP on
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: fandle we see it get there. And then now with
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: adding a six spot and the one and a half
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: x at the top, it makes this work. Is just
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: thinking about these wide receivers on Philly, like Micah Parsons
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: is everyone talking about they're just gonna smash him because
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: of that, That doesn't necessarily mean they run all over
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: them like it's no if there's no Sacks coming hurts
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: his way, which they're all. You know, typically he's got
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: a pretty good old line. It's not happening that often anyway.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Just all it could have all the time in the
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: world to find guys like aj Brown, DeVante Smith getting
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: loose like that to me just makes me circle back
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: to into my mind where I think contrarian right out
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of the gates, you're thinking, okay, Lamb Pickens other stuff
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: like get different with hurt Sparkley. It's just you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: the add in the tight ends we talked about, like
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: all these other factors. It just makes me think more
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and more about those guys. And as everybody said, the
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Stone went live, Well, the Stone's kind of liking that
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: idea as well. So do you have any additional thoughts
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: at wide Receiver. I don't have too much more to
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: add You talk about some of the value stuff earlier
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just know I'm playing a lot of AJ Brown,
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: CD and Saque at captain, So I think I'm gonna
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: be like I said, I want them to get all
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: the way there or really not there as much. And
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown feels like the definition of that like he
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: can have is when he's what reading his book on
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: the sideline because he's non existent for the day, and
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: then he absolutely goes out for one hundred and two.
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be underweight CD and Brown in the flex,
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: probably an overweight Captain, and like the Pickens Smith stuff,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: I'll probably be just somewhere around the field. Like I
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: really feel strongly about the Brown, the Saque, the Absolute Studs.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: But then that naturally means I'll probably have more Smith
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: in the flex and you also can do like, if
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: you're really chalking a lot of spots, you can drop
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: Aj Brown to Devonte Smith in the large field tournaments
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: in the flex spot and run it from there. You
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: could cut down one fourth of the dupes and that
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: payout be huge. Is it crazy? If DeVante Smith outscores
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Aj Brown? It can happen plenty games. Stuff like that.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Same thing for CD to Pickens maybe a little harder
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: to see, but I mean not really, So I'll be
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: looking for little stuff like that in the large field
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: tournaments one v one pivots that like, yeah, I mean
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: I can see Smith outscoring them. I can see Pickens
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: outscoreing Lamb. It doesn't need to happen too often, but
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: when it does, you'll be rewarded pretty greatly.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a Showdown slate actually last year. I
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: think that had one of the man like, who's the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: other Cowboys receiver. It's on the tip of my tongue now,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: but anyway, I think Cooks, Yeah, and they just we
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: have his Cooks when he was on their their squad
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: and it was a Showdown game and everybody was on
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Lamb and Cooks just cooked and it was like, oh,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: I guess we didn't need that. And like it's said,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: it's one slate, it's one game. That's the way that
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it can happen. I think that'll be disappointing for some
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: that make that. Again, there's levels to it to your point,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: I just want to add on. They say, Okay, I'm
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do what title said, I'm gonna play more Pickens
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: than Lamb, but they're not playing Pickens for Lamb. There's
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a difference of picking one picking Pickens in this case
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: it goes together, but picking Pickens over Lamb and then
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: maxing out your salary versus playing Pickens where Lamb could
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: fit and leaving that money. And it just happens to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: be that Lamb is a nice pivot off of Barkley
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: and Hurts, but he doesn't get there just because of that,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: and then that's an expensive spot. But you end up
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: having a guy like Pickens that fits in there and
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: makes it happen. So you know, that's what I see.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: You know some of the sharper players do, and the
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: levels to it if you will that type of thing.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: So anything else on Wide Receiver Title if not, you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: could take us to tight end.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: I'm in agreement. With Hoop.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: I prefer the Tolberts and the Turpins over Johan Dotson.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: I think they throw the ball more at the end
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: of the day. I mean Johan Dotson's receiving prop is
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: seven and a half yards, Like, I mean, a lot
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: would have to happen. I'm absolutely gonna jinx it right now.
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: But he's thirty two hundred, like he has a real price.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Take Tolbert's thirty four, but I think he's on the
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: field a lot more. Turpin's the interesting one.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Like is it good? I mean, he's pretty chalky for cheap.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: I prefer Shipley.
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: I think I'm just gonna play it, and then when
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I play it, I want to get different in certain spots.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: He's just a big play guy, especially if they're down
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns whatever it may be, Like they're gonna want
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: to get the ball in his hands to create speed kills.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: I said that with Worthy, like he's got speed. The
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: double dip again, it rarely happens, but Cowboys defense is
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: gonna be unowned. That's a way to play a chalky
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: Turpin with Cowboys defense. He randomly springs the kickoff for
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: punt return, you get the two touchdowns. Right there, I'm
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: gonna play Turpin just because how like Grant calcn terrors
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: in that range, I don't want to play him Scoonmaker,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: like the range is so bad, so.
• 51:31
  Speaker 4: I'm almost forced to play him.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: And when I'm doing that, that's when I'm more likely
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: to again drop down from a Lamb to a Pickens
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: aj Brown to a Smith. Assuming I have like a
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Barkley Hurts captain. That's like how you eat chalk captains
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: and chalk stuff. But you got different in a little
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: way right there. So I'm in agreement with with what
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: Hoop said at at wide receiver tight end, do you
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: want me to take it in.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: A tight end?
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I'll go one second, Yeah, thank you. We're like, we've
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: done this together a few times. Back of the swinging
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: things right away, I was just going to say, I
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: know some people we'll probably have to get back to
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: things at the top of the hour, so we always
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: want to respect everyone's time. Let's get to two hundred
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and fifty likes. We're only about fifty away, and what
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: we'll do is, since we'll probably go over the top
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of the hour, there's a lot of good stuff to
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: talk about today. We're getting to the nitty gritty of it.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Now on DK we want to talk about FanDuel, but
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: we'll commit to announcing the Golden Ship at number two
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: winner at the top of the hour, assuming we can
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: get these lights and there's over almost four hundred and
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: fifty people watching. We're at two hundred likes. We're looking
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: for fifty more just to keep it rolling, and then
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: we'll announce the number two Golden Ship at winner, which
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: is also the first Games winner to play in game
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: number two share a ship, which can be huge for
• 52:37
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• 52:46
  Speaker 1: fifty percent of the prize to the prize pool. We
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  Speaker 1: could literally add one hundred thousand dollars to the prize
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: pool this Sunday when we announce the Golden Ship at
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: number two winner. So title I'll kick it to you
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: for tight end. We got eight minutes to the top
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of the hour. We'll get through it by then, but
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: just want to note that out I.
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: Think I'm gonna have little ferguson Godder Captain, but I'm
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna be probably overweighting them in the flex. Like
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: the real interesting talking point who mentioned it, Miles Sanders
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: is right in that range, Miles Sanders, It's gonna be
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: pretty close in ownership. I wouldn't be surprised if Sanders
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: is a little higher owned. Again, you play a lot
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: of lineups, you can choose that if you're playing one team, Like,
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: if you're playing a lot of lineups, you can diversify
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: and you can play all three of them. Of course,
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: if you're playing one team, you have little more of
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: a decision. But like Goddard six to four, Williams five
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: to four, Ferguson five to two, Like no one's gonna
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: play Blue, really, Pickens is still a lot more expensive
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: than that. They're just in a range a lot of
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: people will go to because they're gonna be on the
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: field a bunch. Again, I'm hoping probably I'm leaning Sanders
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: of the bunch. Ferguson I prefer over Goddard. I think
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: they throw the football more and I'll have a decent
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: amount in the flex. I probably won't have too much captain,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: but I assume who will probably be like the Grants
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: and the Schoonmakers, the Fords. If you're playing one hundred
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: and fifty teams, like I know probably all of us
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: are today, I still really don't want too much.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I'll let you guys, maybe you can talk me into
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: because one catch for grantson for twelve yards, you know
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, maybe it's enough if none of
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: these guys below do it. But we saw it more
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: a couple of years ago than we did last year.
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good that's a good point because
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: somebody did it might have been Jordan or got Jordan.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I said, it didn't seem like we needed the cheap
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: guys last year on you know, really any occasion that
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: was kind of the case. And I think it's the
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: pricing is softer nowadays. Like so in the past, like
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: you that two hundred dollars guys, sometimes you just needed
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: it to get everything else in. But like with the
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: softer overall pricing, like we didn't see a ton of
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: it last year, but like two three years ago you
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: saw it all the time. We're just a random two
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars guy that got three points was on the winner.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: So it is interesting, does it kind of come back
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: to what we saw two years ago, or does you
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: know what we saw last year kind of carryover. So
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I do think that is a good talking for him.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: For sure.
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: It's more likely on this slate than most, in my opinion,
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: because you have the say it's concentrated on the eagle
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: side if like Herta exactly. So I think it's more
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: viable on this slate than many slates. But yeah, I'm
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: curious your to take on all that Tambo.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just tricky to get to these
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: spots because the other value plays are just so solid
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: on this slate, like for example, mine is like, yeah,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Schoonmaker will fit into a few. He's also
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: similar price to a Hunter right there on DraftKings, but
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I would prefer Hunter if I'm going down there. Soch Again,
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna review my lineups before I submit them. I
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: always review my work before and after. But I would
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: say that, yeah, I'm sure somebody like him, maybe I
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: don't know, man, Like there's who else is I'm looking
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: at on my list here now, like just trying to
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: see not really much, but I will say it's more
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: on the other two that I'm so high On just
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: because they fit in that same price one as everybody
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: else and it's mostly in flex. But with Ferguson and Goddard,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about them. Like I said, like
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: you could just be chops over the middle. To Goddard,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: he can rack a bunch of that way. He's a
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: big boy. We know he can get into the end zone.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: Ferguson is typically looks awesome when you see him play
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: out there and you see what he can do for
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: that squad. So I got a lot of him and
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the flex right now early, So I think that's probably
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: where I'm at. It's definitely, to your point title trickier
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: for me to get to these other options, and you know,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: at least enough of them for it to be a
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: talking point. They would be very minimal amounts within my portfolio,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: if at all. And honestly, this is another thing. If
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: those types of plays slip in to the portfolio and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: make it, it's probably because they're making something else work,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Like it's just too chalky somewhere else, And because it's
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: such a heavy top prize, it says, okay, instead of
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: turpin down here, we're gonna hit you up with a
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: schoonmaker play, and that's wide receivers tight I'm gonna say
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: we're doing that because it doesn't not make sense for
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: your lineup. It It can still work, but you're just
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: way more unique and way different to make the rest
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: of your lineup more unique that way, And that's just
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: what I'll accept. So that's all I would have to
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: add when comes to that hoop, Do you have anything
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: else on tight end? If not, quick on the kickers
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: and d because these kickers are definitely popping for me,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Like these are two of the high I looked it up.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: They're to the highest scoring fantasy point kickers. It's game
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: one of the season. Everyone ought to assumes touch like
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: we're getting twenty touchdowns tonight or something, or we're getting none.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: But I think we could see the kickers come come
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: through still.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, And in terms of the tight end, I like
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: both Fergus and over Goddard. Though for for me again
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: just leaning on that Dallas passing attack a little bit
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: defense not you know, typically not excited to play them.
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I always think they're kind of over owned. Cow Cowboys
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: defense should be way way less owned than the Eagles,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you know, a thousand dollars difference Eagles in a much
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: better spot. You know, whatever happens with with defense for me,
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm good with I'll likely be underweight, but
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: you know, not going to force it either. And then kickers,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah good with both. What's what's the weather going to say?
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: I didn't look is it supposed to rain? If not,
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: someone's sitting the chat they're supposed to reign because you.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Know weather slash props. Guy, what do you have a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: now we can give you a minute to look.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: It up if you yeah, I mean I always I
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: always go to Kevin Roth. I mean I no meteorologists.
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: He has a yellow looks some rain looks fair really
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: likely during the game.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: So so that I think that doesn't de what's doing on.
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't pay or do anything that. I like Kickers
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: they're cheap.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: Too cheap, Yeah, definitely, I don't think so. The one thing,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: if this gets talked up like there's rain or any
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: sort of weather, people will kind of get away from
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Kickers or you know, if that turns into it. I
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: hope it turns into a talking point, you know throughout
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: the day where people are like, oh, you know it's
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: going to rain. Now, can't play the kickers because dude,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I mean it has it's very with the exact word
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: I'm looking for, but it's like the factors that actually
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: affect what a kicker. It's more like the heavy heavy winds.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: And even so even if there is heavy wins, like
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: these guys can still make thirty thirty five forty yard
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: field goals in heavy winds. So it takes a lot
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: for me to kind of get offers for weather. But
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: I do hope, I do hope people see that there's
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: gonna be rained and say, you know what I'm gonna
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: you know, play a skill position player or a defense
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: over the kickers, because I like both these guys and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I quite a bit.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, I mentioned earlier. I'd even play them up
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: in the Captain and more likely Elliott by the way,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: than Aubrey. But you know, both of them in the
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: flex are fine. We've seen double kickers been very good
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: to me thanks to my guy Hoopster actually even from
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: back in the day, different places, different faces. But I
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: will say like that was a strategy that worked quite
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: well for some time that people just say, oh, you
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: can't do that, and it's like, well, the way the
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: pricing worked out you could now there is different value
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: plays and stuff down there. But it's another thing. I
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: think it was our man aides in the chat earlier
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: had mentioned about like a balanced build tonight. If you
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: don't have the Barkleys and the Hurtzes and the lambs
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: up top, you could just go balance and end up
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: with something nice. And I think from a perspective of
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: how the builds look, I definitely think you know, it's
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: not a surprise to anybody, but I think you could
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: see almost fifty you could see forty five to fifty
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: percent of the builds tonight be four to two and
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: five to one Philly, I mean almost half the field
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: and just changing that up or doing it in a
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: different way like our title did in the final look.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs got stamped, but a two to four still
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: got there with a little bit of money on the table.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: So things like that can can happen. For sure. It's
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: top of the hour. I think we're about fifteen likes away,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: so we'll be nice on the first one. We'll give
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: it in and let you guys know. I think after
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: this I'll give it quickly to title for Kickers and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: ds if he has anything to add, But then we'll
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: go to FanDuel the Golden Ship at number two winner.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And I do want to well, I'm really quickly gonna
• 1:00:31
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• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: mini swap. I want to show this off, so it's
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: right here. This is for I think it's the best
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Golden Ship that you can win on a week to
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: week basis. It's game number two. It's called share Ship.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I'll be entering the three thirty three Wildcat this week.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: We got to change it, so that's my bad. We
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: it could be the five to fifty five million maker
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: some week. We're gonna really try and grow this pool
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: as much as possible, but it's pretty straightforward. We're gonna
• 1:00:55
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• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: under the GBB Core Report, the Golden Ship that's gonna
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: be the core of the lineup that's played. If the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: lineup wins money, ten percent of any profit goes to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: the ballot selected winner. So if we win two hundred
• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: is gonna win twenty k, and then on top of it,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred k is gonna go to the prize pool
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. So share ship is big,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good one. I will remove this
• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: The winner number two of fifty on the season and
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: it's week one. That's why we got a couple extras
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: this week. But this is a big one, complete random draw.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: This is hilarious. Congrats to Daniel Win. Daniel Win is
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: a real person, a member atship at Nation and we
• 1:01:42
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• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: into the finals, the final fifty of ship At Games
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  Speaker 1: play in it this week has a chance to win
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars this week and we'll have a chance
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: to win twenty thousand or more to end the season.
• 1:01:59
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• 1:02:01
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• 1:02:03
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• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: Amazing way to start on what is the completely random draw.
• 1:02:09
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• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I know the chat's shouting it out and if you're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: there and you're in discord and post in with the members,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: we want this to be a community thing. I can
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: promise you this, that's the lineup that everybody's gonna be
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: watching on Sunday in the Wildcat when we're posting it
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: for the chat, you know, for everybody to see it.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: To our man Hebrew reels out there, says, all I
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: do is win, win, win, no matter what. Let's get
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: it baby, So you got to send it to win it.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: We got ship at Nation, we got Daniel win. This
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: is gonna be a good time this season going through
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: a ship of games title. Congrats to Daniel. I'll kick
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: it over to you man. Anything else to round it
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: out on kickers and d's and then we're gonna round
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: up the show with our FanDuel takes.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, if Cowboys defense is really going to come
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: in nine to ten percent, I think it's probably one
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: of the worst plays on the board when you play
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: them like just really like I'm I'm Chalky, Chalky, Chalky everywhere,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: and then I just hope they spring a play. And
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: I'm most likely to play Turpin and most of my
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: Cowboys' defense lineups, but I do like Eagles and both
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: kickers a lot. And part of that is it's so
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: easy to go from a Godder, Javonte or Ferguson and
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: just drop them down to one of them. You're not
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: giving up much projection, you're forcing leaving salary. You can
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: easily see.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: Any of that happening. So I'll probably be overweight to
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: all three of them.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, hoop any final thoughts on this stuff, man?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I mean for me, I already talked about kickers and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: d's like even you know, Elliott and the captain, things
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: like that defense as you can play obviously flex and
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: whatever you want to do. But anything else from you
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: hoop on that? If not, I think it's important we
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: talk about FanDuel. I think one thing that I also
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: saw overlooked, it was actually brought up multiple times in
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: the discord today, is it's actually not that they just
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: added one and a half X to really solve things.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: They added they went full DraftKings on us and added
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: the ex position as well, which makes it just even better.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I would have taken just the one and a half
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: X last year. I was like, please just give me that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: For them to go all in on it this way,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: I'm excited. There's a huge there's I mean, there's tons
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: of huge cons this week on FanDuel, but to specifically,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: there's a huge like fifteen dollars to kick the season off, right,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited for that as well.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very excited. I mean, you know, a little bit
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: too late. I mean we've been calling for this for
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: a while, but I guess better late than never is
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: what they say, So we kind of have to have
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: to go with that, and it will be exciting for
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: this season. Obviously. You can see here I have.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: It up on Saber the prices here, So the normal
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: prices for these guys, you know, Barkley's fourteen to four,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: Hurts twelve to two, Ceedee Lamb twelve, k Aj Brown
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: eleven to two.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: The one thing that definitely stands out around FanDuel is
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: this pricing difference between Barkley and Hurts, where Barkley is
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: twenty two hundred dollars more, and then you come over
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: and look at the projection, Well, Hurts is projected by
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: three more points and quarterbacks. You know, the scoring over
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel definitely favors quarterbacks a little bit. So the
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: initial thought for me is definitely, yes, these two are
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: going to be highly owned in that MVP spot. But
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: Jalen hurts even more so when when you go to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: the captain it is what is it, thirty thirty three
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars difference between the two. So that's the first
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: thing that kind of stands out to me when when
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: looking at FanDuel, wide receivers are always a little lower
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: on without the full PPR. So guys like c Ede
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: lamb aj Brown, DeVonta Smith pickens the tight ends we
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: probably aren't going to be you know, played barely at
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: all in the captain but in the MVP spot. But
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: all those guys, all the pass catchers always come in
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: with a little less ownership because of that, because of
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: that reason, because of the difference in the scoring over there.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I'm glad FanDuel finally got it right,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: and like I said, it makes it a little more
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: exciting to kind of play over there.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Title how much I know, not numbers, because I mean
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: the most humble guy high, I don't need you to
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: give any numbers, But how much were you playing on
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: fandel versus like how much you're playing now percentage wise?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Are you uping at any were you already enter out,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: Like what sort of your take on this being added
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: over on Fandel Showdown.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 4: I literally played zero in tournaments.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: I'm not rich enough, like DraftKings has plenty of a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: contest for me to get as much money down and
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: I'm not close to Max and that.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I'm still going back and forth on like I'm playing
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: a lot on DK right now.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: DK treats me pretty well too, I don't know yet. Today,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely gonna be playing. It's huge prizes. I'm gonna
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: see how it goes throughout the year. Mainslate though, I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: play a bunch of I mean, nothing changed there, but
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: I play a bunch on FanDuel there. I try and diversify.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know, it'll be interesting throughout the year.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: I'll be playing today though, contests are good.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I figured out. I think it's good
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: for that perspective. I mean, who called out a couple
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: of things. And I'll say this too, like my just
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: final take on at or thoughts, it's not really about
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the plays or the options. We always talk about, you know,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: I say, it's not who you play, it's how you
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: play them. We say, we teach you how to play,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: not who to play. At Ship a nation. That's kind
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: of the goals to make you as much of a
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: good DFS player. Do you think I would been using
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: this chess example lately, but a chess master thinks, moved ahead.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: We're trying to do the same help you get better
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: at the game of DFS and not so focused on
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: this wide receiver matchup and all this stuff. But one
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: thing I will say about fan duel is like last year,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the reason not only did I hate it for the chops,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: but everything that was set up to go, like going
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: into the slate was warranted. Like if you have hurt
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: some barkley on a slate over there, it's it made
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: sense if there was sixty percent of the ownership of
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: them in MVP, and it was almost like, yes, you
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: can play against that, And I know that was still
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: the best way to play against it, but it's like
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: you weren't surprised when it got there. At least in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: this scenario, adding the one and a half x is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: not as big as just adding the extra spot. Now
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: there's just way more combinations of what can be required,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: and I will say it's interesting. My first thoughts were like, Okay,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I know that hurts and Barkley are a bigger price difference,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: but they're still going to be probably what fifty percent
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: of the MVP. Again probably rightfully so, like I still
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: see how it works out in the way their pricing
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: can be softer. I get that, But originally I thought
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: that Lamb at twelve K, just two hundred dollars less
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: than Hurts would be like way lower owned. He may
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: still be half the ownership of a guy like Jalen
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: Hurts because you're getting a quarterback of the favorite at home,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: but he still could be like sixteen seventeen percent up there,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: because who do you go to after those two? Most
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: people just go to fit the next expensive guy and
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: flip the build. If you went more balanced like our
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: guy Nads was talking about earlier on something like FanDuel today,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I think there could be a ton of value to
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: that because there is ways that those guys can get there,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: and it can be a little bit different than just
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: assuming it's one of those three. When really based on
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: the new strategy and the new style of game, there's
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: a much higher potential that that's not the case. That
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: seems obvious to others. Great, but for many just starting
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: out wanting to be good at the game. That's how
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: you have to be thinking about these things. There is
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of other options, and to be honest, Dak
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: is ten eight and is likely going to come in
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: lower owned than CD LAMB and he's still a quarterback
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: on FanDuel that can still make it happen. So I
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: like Dak over there as well. Who puts your thoughts
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: on that? Anything you want to add.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, you know, same sort of mindset despite the pricing.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 2: You know, differences like I like Dak lot captain or
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: quarterbacks having advantage with with FanDuel scoring without the PPR stuff,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: and you know, he if we get the proper game script,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: I think he could be the highest scoring player on
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the slate. And the fact I'm FANDUE, he's not coming
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: in at this big massive ownership in the MVP like
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: I'm in, even more so where like the scoring benefits
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: him more so than probably any other player on the slate.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: So I'm in. I'm in on Dak for sure. I'm vandal.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like it, title, any anything you want to add,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: therem anything else you got final thoughts before we get
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: out here.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say FanDuel ownership is tougher to predict.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: They don't allow the CSP downloads like DraftKings, so it's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: harder to reverse engineer. People spend a lot more focus
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: on DraftKings than fanduels. So you hit it from the top,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: like the inputs, like what you put in to sabersim that's.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: What you get out.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: Like you just shouldn't be blindly running anything. I mean
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: you can, I guess it's better than what some people do,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 3: but what you put in projections and you also you
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: want to get different than a lot of people are
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: using sabers nowadays and rightfully, so you don't just want
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: the same exact inputs of everyone else. So I don't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: know how many using ship and nation projections, and they're
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: how many are plugging in the ownership projection, But just say, hey,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with this, Like I think maybe CD
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  Speaker 3: will be lower owned than we have right now, DAK
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  Speaker 3: might be a little higher because dak's projected higher and
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  Speaker 3: twelve little stuff like that. You change the inputs and
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  Speaker 3: then that changes the output and everyone else is just
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  Speaker 3: blindly running it, not doing anything. You just got levels
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  Speaker 3: above right there because you thought about it. Use something
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  Speaker 3: a little different than the rest. And at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day, projections in football it's not baseball, We're
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  Speaker 3: it's sharper. It's easier to predict than baseball because zero
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  Speaker 3: for for any single day. But it's a lot more
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  Speaker 3: variance than basketball twenty four seconds shot clock up and down.
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  Speaker 3: So using different projections, I think is a pretty sharp thing.
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  Speaker 3: If you know most people are you using something else.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you're not giving up too much. Where
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  Speaker 3: it's NBA having the best projections means a lot more
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  Speaker 3: than it does in a sport like this, And then
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  Speaker 3: this means even more than like MLB.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who knows about that? So I hope that
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  Speaker 4: made sense.
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  Speaker 1: It does, and I'm gonna add on, I'm gonna bring
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  Speaker 1: a guy Joe back up. Love to see the first
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  Speaker 1: Golden shipped winner ever of Shiita games getting in the
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  Speaker 1: chat here. But to your point, this is a that's
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  Speaker 1: another thing you can the benefit of having Shibat nation.
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  Speaker 1: Everything already tightened up for you, Like we're already all
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: over FanDuel, We're gonna be making tweaks to the end
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  Speaker 1: of it. Those are gonna be better ownership projections than
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  Speaker 1: the majority of just people starting from scratch or having
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  Speaker 1: nothing at all. And to Title's point, you're allowed to
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  Speaker 1: change them. So you can go in and say, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, I heard what the boys said. I just
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  Speaker 1: have this feeling my got says that this guy is
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: going to be more than this guy. You can flip
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: those two numbers. Now you're taking great numbers, making them
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  Speaker 1: excellent in your eyes and your gut and everything you
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: want to run with, and then letting the tool take over.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: That's why people say I don't want to change too much,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: because I want to let the tool do it for me.
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  Speaker 1: You can do. It's your money, it's your estimate that
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  Speaker 1: you're putting in. Go make it the way you think
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  Speaker 1: is the most accurate. That if you don't make your
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: own projections, not many do, even pros to this day.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: It's you need good ones to start off with. And
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: that's not just player point projections, because in football and
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: some of these other sports like golf, we're talking medians
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  Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna need ceilings in these big tournaments.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: But if you're starting, you need somewhere to start from
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  Speaker 1: and then use these to work to your advantage. Use
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  Speaker 1: the stone to pick up on tendencies. And to find
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: yourself through a single entry build. I know a lot
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: of people just play one lineup. Well, the best way
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: to use the stone is to say, if I start
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: here and I'm feeling this, what makes sense with it?
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: Daniels in the chat says, you're not making rules, don't
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: even play. I think you know you can make rules,
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: or you can have something like sabersim it helps you
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: do it. But I think having an idea and if
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: you're going single antry, that's gonna help you come up
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: with those thoughts. But yeah, congrats to Joe. Joe Masley,
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  Speaker 1: the winner of our founding Family Big Guy Loyalty Golden
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  Speaker 1: Ship at Ticket number one is in the finals for
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  Speaker 1: week seventeen. Spoiler alert, Joe, you can't join anybody. You
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  Speaker 1: won't win any more Golden Ship. It's it's one per
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: person on that side of things. If you get into
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  Speaker 1: the one ninety nine ballots, you could win again and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: get into the next game the next week to try
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: and win in again. But you've got a Golden Ship
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  Speaker 1: with my friend. You got the oh moment where you're
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: looking at that ticket as you open up the chocolate
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: bar and he says, honored to be the first Golden
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Ship of Winner. We have an amazing team over here, man.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: All of our team is phenomenal, you know, coming up
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: with this and executing on it. So I appreciate you.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Appreciate all of our team in our community.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: Hoop.
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  Speaker 1: Any final thoughts before we get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for tuning in looking forward to to this season.
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  Speaker 2: I always say it even you know, I understand content
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  Speaker 2: is not for everybody, and you know people have budgets
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: and whatnot. If you if you cannot support us that way,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: just come and watch these shows, man, come all most
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: our shows are free. Sunday morning will be free. We
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: appreciate the support in the YouTube community. We do have
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: deals though, obviously, where people can get into the most
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: affordable rate in the industry, best value in the industry.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: You know, you break it down, it's like a dollar
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  Speaker 2: a day or something. So we do accommodate to all
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: different you know, price points in terms of you know,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: what people are looking for. But either way, I keep
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: showing up here for all our showdown shows, mainslate shows.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: We get shows all throughout the week. Appreciate any, any
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: and every bit of support that we get here.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mondays and Thursdays. We'll solidify a time. This first
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: one we started at two pm Eastern, but Sunday is
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: going to be ten am Eastern, so we'll be back
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Sundays with more Golden Ship and ticket winners to start
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: off the season. Week one a bit more crazy than usual,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: but just a heads up, that's what you're going to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: want to know. Another quick note is the Starter plans.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: This is the last day for this because as many
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: no Sabersim offers Starter on their site. This is the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: way that we have it. Paired with all of our content,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you now get portfolio diversification that alone costs one hundred
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: dollars as an add on on some sites on our site.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: Right now, this is the last day for this before
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: the prices go up. The annual goes to twelve ninety nine,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: the monthly goes to one thirty nine. Because if you
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: take ninety seven at sabersim and then our price at
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: seventy nine, it's one eighty. The deal at one thirty
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  Speaker 1: nine is still a phenomenal savings. But right now, if
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: you do the one twenty nine all access, you get
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: a couple different things. And I'm gonna finish the show
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: With this, you get in Ship of Games. You get
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: ninety seven dollars for your first month, so it's the
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: same price as trying out Saber. You're just trying it
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: out to get a look at everything we offer and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: then getting into ship at Games and then the biggest thing.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Shout out again to Sabersim our partners. They have created
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: the ability for you to get in the winner circle.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: So you just need one of these two beautiful logos.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: I like the one on the left. I think it's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: a little bit more popular, but you know, the right
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: still looks very good on both sites. On dark mode
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: and light Mode. You get in, you become a member.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: You just need an active ship at Nation or Sabersim membership.
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  Speaker 1: The ninety seven first month is the best deal. You
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: load up a logo and as long as you win
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  Speaker 1: one thousand bucks or more your first thousand dollars, score
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: your one hundred, it doesn't matter what it is. As
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: long as you get in on this and post it
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: on X. The prizes are there right up to and
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: including the same Rolex Watch promotion I've always had for
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: the million dollar win. You get a month for free,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: a swag box, a T shirt, and a hoodie. You
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: win three months of whatever program it is you're on.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Not many sites are giving that away. Right down to
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: one thousand dollars, you can win multiple times, and if
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: you wonder if that's possible, well it is. We've had
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: four one million dollar winners, two of them in NFL,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: two in golf. The NFL. One's funny because Dalton on
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: the left here, you can go watch his story. He
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: was almost the three of us, the same crew you're
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: looking at now, told his story. And then later on
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: that season when Mark f one at one forty am
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: in the morning in our discord, literally minutes behind him,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: was the only other person up at that time. I
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: think D DREI, who said amazing, congrats Mark Afy was
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: right there to congratulate another million maker winner. We've had
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred plus ten thousand dollars winners. You can see
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: in the bunch here. We've had a thousand plus one
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars winners, and there's our man title. We're all
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: trying to outdo him. Tonight. That was that one hundred
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and thirteen K score. Shout out to our guy Shalub
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: two fifty hoop and I have had some one to fifties.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: Our man Hebrews in the chat Ricardo M. Manning nine
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: forty boy. I think he got a Golden Shipper ticket
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: this morning. So tons of good people throughout this year
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: that are supporting us and helping out. But the winners
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: are possible to be found, but anybody guaranteeing them for you,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: That's not how this works. We want to teach you
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: how to play, not who to play. Really appreciate you, guys,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for watching. For the first episode
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: of the season. That's gonna do it for this one,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: for who for title, for myself to tag and tambo
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  Speaker 1: led shipping