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Weekend Recap after the Iowa win over Penn State, Scott Dochterman joins the show · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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Monday back to Iowa based programming here on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. Whichever of the affiliates
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you're listening to in the state or however you are listening,
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we're certainly grateful that you are as we come to you from
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Des Moines sports station one O 6.3 KXNO.
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It's Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next two hours to talk
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sports with you. Appreciate you being here.
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Here's what's coming up on our program at the bottom of the
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hour. We will start with our friend
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Scott Dockerman who covers the covers college football.
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He was at Kinnock Stadium on Saturday night, so we'll get
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Doc's thoughts on that. His latest College Football
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Playoff rankings are up at The Athletic where he writes.
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So Doc will join us coming up here at the bottom of our number
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one Bama. Bob Trent and I will put a bow
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on the weekend that was in college football.
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That starts hour number two. And then Bill Seals on Iowa
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State as they fall to Creighton on Friday night.
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But looking forward to be BYU as a Matt Campbell's team gets back
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on the gridiron coming up on Saturday, 2:30 against BYU.
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Well, I didn't see that coming until we'll get into more of
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that throughout the morning. And I thought you thought I was
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going to crush him anyways. So many, so many different
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avenues that we can take to start the show and go to Friday
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night, talk about the football or the greatest baseball game
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ever played. It was by Shohei Otani.
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We can get into the crazy days in the NFL.
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Yesterday the Broncos and the Giants was wild, or our Saturday
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in college football. And I think we should start
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right there because that moves the needle like none other.
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And Iowa is able to knock off Penn State.
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And it was so many positives to take away from that game,
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including Mark Gordowski legs. I still can't hit the broad side
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of the barn. It's got some work to do there,
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but my God, we hadn't seen him be been able to, you know, to
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use his legs in the fashion that he did.
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What an incredible performance. He starts the game one for six
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with an interception, finishes 9 at 10.
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Throws the ball twice in the second-half of the football
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game. But the story?
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Did he crack 100 yards? No, I don't think he did. 90
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something tennis 68. Even worse than I thought.
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It was a Deacon Hill type performance.
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Throwing the ball. Throwing the ball.
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However, he has those legs and even with the bum wheel, as he
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saw on the long run that ended in the Ouijan touchdown, I think
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he said after the game he has got to unhitch the plow on that
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one. But when he carried around that
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big brace with you, a little bit difficult to deal.
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What a tough guy. What the previous quarterback
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would have quit because he did quit, gave back mirror, quit on
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his team because that's the kind of person he is, Mark Gronowski
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from all indications, and hearing her parents, teammates
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talk about him. He's a leader.
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He is to come up with that kind of performance to do it with
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just pure will physicality and then two salted away with that
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play. Oh it.
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Was awesome and he and he and Lester were the only two.
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And and they had to tell Moulton before he had.
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To they told Moulton, OK, I didn't hear that because.
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You don't want him grabbing at the ball.
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Well, that's a good point, yeah. And what are the things that
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really stood out? Just that final play.
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And we'll talk more about the game.
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But that final play, it's these things you hear about Iowa
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football and it's tedious and it's monotonous.
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And it's winning. It's damn boring sometimes too,
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but. It's winning.
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But you go through practices and if you've ever just even seen
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like those 15 minute clips and you see the defense alignment or
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you watch pre game drills and they're doing the exact same,
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putting their hands up right, boom, boom, boom.
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There's over and over and over again.
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And I'm sure as a player of time, so we got to do this
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again. But you do and that play, if you
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don't have the correct fake on the play, it's a little thing.
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It is a small minute detail. But those are those small minute
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details how they can win games and how they can win games with
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68 yards passing and how they can do this year after year
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after year. It's because of those small
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details. And without that detail, maybe
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that outside backer doesn't fall for the fake.
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He gets hit and they're putting it back.
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He. Fell for the fake.
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Yes, he did and they're putting it back to him and, and who
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knows, but they did. He makes the play game over Iowa
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escapes on a weird fun night, and my voice is still feeling it
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here on Monday morning. It sounds a little bit like it.
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I bet your head was yesterday morning.
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Probably cleared by today. So Phil Parker's defense gets
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better every single week that they take the field?
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I did not see the Pro Football Focus grading numbers.
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If Keon Entre Gover wasn't the highest graded Hawkeye, then
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that thing's not worth the paper that it's printed on.
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He was unbelievable. Every single week I'm more
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impressed by this cat. And he wasn't alone.
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Wampa's best game is a hawk. Oh no, not even.
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Close, right? And we've talked about Wampa a
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few times this year playing a lot more physical.
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I mean, that's the biggest thing.
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And not just he always laid his shoulder in there, but he's
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wrapping up, he's finishing those tackles.
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And this is a guy you couple with an interception, a forced
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fumble, and those numbers are crazy.
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First interception since 2023, first forced fumble of his
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career. For a guy that's played that
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much football, I mean, that's kind of concerning.
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But here it is and it is showing up.
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And it's, yes, this was his best game, but he'd been ramping up
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to this kind of performance. And good to see him, you know,
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get that kind of pay off and have that kind of performance
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because it's been season long that he's been building and it
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really all came together. No, I, I'm, I'm totally with
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you. It's good to see local kids.
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You root for those kids to do well, especially the of the hype
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that he that that followed him to Iowa City when he left
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Southeast Polk Shire was great and like Montgomery's game.
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TJ Hall continues to impress me every single game.
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I think Parker's defense, it takes a step forward every
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single week. And they're having to do a
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completely different way. Yes, Phil's dialed up pressure,
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but we know historically this is not a team in comparison to the
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rest of college football that blitzes at a high level they're
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doing. They pick their spots, trends.
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They're doing it at a much higher level on passing downs,
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they're doing on running downs. There's a lot more run blitzes
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on there. You look at the overall numbers
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and you see Penn State held that team to what, 3.6 yards per rush
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and. They got they got some running
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backs. They got some guys back there
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that offensive line still got some pretty big pieces.
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This was one of those program victories.
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It's just it's about the team DNA.
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It's about the program and to find a way.
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Kirk afterwards emotional, talking about his bad decisions.
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And it was bad. It made it was really bad.
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And, you know, Penn State's not on the schedule next year.
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I had somebody say in the comments of my podcast.
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The last time he's going to face them if.
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Even if this year isn't it, you know, if it's down the line, but
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knowing or maybe this last time you see Mckinnick, you know that
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that kind of, we know how special the Penn State game is.
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It's where he wanted to play. He's he's told that's where he
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wanted to go and he wasn't good enough.
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That was the team, though, It was Penn State.
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And to be able to win it in that fashion, too, he made a mistake.
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So the 66 yarder, let's go to that as they're sitting in
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Ankeny in the basement. After they just missed the by
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by, I don't know, was it 10 yards short, 8 yards short
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something? So Stevens didn't take a full
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swing on that one either, though I, I don't think, yeah.
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You could see it better than I could.
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Cause it it was right towards where we sat.
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Yeah, we couldn't. I couldn't tell watching it if
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it was, you know, you know, he gave 100%.
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No, he did not. I mean he.
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Was 10 yards. Short.
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Yes, It do not take that into one iota.
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I don't believe I think that well.
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Then for the television audience, we all did and all
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speak for all of us because we didn't see a different.
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Angle, yeah, it was not a full swing.
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It was, hey, let's just kind of go.
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It looked like he was just kind of going through the motion,
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getting the motion of the kick. OK, so that makes it.
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That makes it a little easier to swallow then, and still wrong.
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Well, the other part is the left side of the line got blown up.
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I mean, that's what happened there.
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The that had come from somewhere, so.
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The left side, it wasn't just that a guy got a hand up, it was
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completely blown up. He was 4 yards into the
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backfield. He was well on his way.
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When he blocked that. So that's the other component
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too here at the time I didn't have a big problem with it.
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Obviously hindsight, terrible decision, but I don't think it
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was AS. It's funny you say that because
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I was anxious to see him try it because I thought they should
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have tried it last year and I was state right?
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Yes. And I think a lot of us would
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have liked to see that. So I wasn't willing to kill him.
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Like some people, and certainly some people get it where talking
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to people at halftime, there's a fired up by a.
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Fancy. Twitter.
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Oh, I can only imagine what that was like.
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But I because of those two aspects I didn't have nearly as
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big. Now what I hope is not a 66
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yarder, but like a 58 yarder. Yeah, that he won't flinch,
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right, right. When he won't, this won't pop
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into his head because he should be trying those because I think
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his kicker's leg is strong enough to make those.
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And you need to have your left sided line hold up.
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Well, that's the key. Don't don't let that guy get 4
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yards deep to block it and then the bounce of it right into that
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kids right into that kids hands and and he darts in and after
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outside of one drive, you dominate the first half and
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instead of potentially 13, seven, yeah.
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That's what we said after the game.
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The momentum was on. He They had momentum going into
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the locker room until. The crowd was outstanding.
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It was, you know. What?
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There's something about Kennekin.
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Yeah, isn't there? It really is.
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Especially when you guys do the black and gold.
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It looked phenomenal on television.
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It really did the stripe out. Yeah, it was great.
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It really was. It was good to see Kamari
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Moulton. Yeah, it does.
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He run harder than he ever has. I remember I asked you this this
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last week. He's runs.
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He's hard to get down. Yes, he's he runs violently.
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He does? Yeah.
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It reminds me of Pacheco in Kansas City.
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Yes. Who always gets his race work,
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doesn't he? Yes.
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On every single run, He's. He's not going to get hit.
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He's going to lay the head. And Moulton's got a little bit
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of that to him. Yeah, Jazz Patterson's always
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had that. Yeah, that's always his thing.
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But. Moulton did this.
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It's new to him. Yeah, I love what they're doing
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with Weejun. He should get a more involved.
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That touchdown, he doesn't get in if he doesn't get grabbed by
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that defender, probably not because I don't think he he
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didn't have the angle to get the edge there and turn it back in.
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So if that guy doesn't get him by the shoulder and kind of
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twist him back in, I don't think he goes in and I will.
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Offense inside a problem. Kurt, I know a lot of people had
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a problem with the field goal and I laid out my piece there.
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What I have a problem with and it's Tim Lester again.
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You can't throw the ball. 22 point conversions.
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What do they do? Run the ball, run the football.
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You blew the Iowa State game a year ago because of your
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ineptitude inside the five yard line. 2 opportunities, 2 point
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conversions. I think Kirk went forward too
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early, but that's another one too.
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Still, those play designs, they didn't have a shot.
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Those passing plays were they were brutal.
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But can we get a drag? Can we get a slant?
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Can we get something outside of just trying to throw it to the
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corner? I that needs to be worked on
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again and hopefully that comes up on Tuesday because Lester and
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two point conversions has not been a string.
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Now this is not just a Lester thing because we go back.
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Wasn't there a stretch where I would miss like fourteenth
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straight 2 point conversions? I remember us having that
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conversation a year or two ago. I think it was maybe after the
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Iowa State game at the time. Yeah, the numbers were
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ridiculous. But.
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It was something asinine that that the number was, but they
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have to be better there. I mean, you just, you have to
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have better plays than what they're doing.
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Just throwing fades up. Hope for the best with Iowa's
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wide receivers. Yeah, we're they're five and
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two. We're on the cusp of Minnesota
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coming to town. Who looks, they look really good
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on Friday night. There's so much more ahead for
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this team and I wasn't sure that that we would get to this point
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of the season and it would still all be there.
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But it's there. It's it's there.
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The Oregon game, it means something, you know you'd like
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to go back and you can't because that's not how you're allowed to
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play. And I'm not talking about the
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Iowa Stake. I'm going to talk about the
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Indiana game. I mean, that was there for the
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taking. And how much better would you
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even feel about your squad now? And you got to feel really good
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about your squad. You're 5 and 2A team that you're
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looking up at is still, is still on your schedule and they're
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coming to your. Place all the games aren't maybe
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as daunting as I've seen, at least it's.
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Nebraska's going to get killed, Trent.
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Nebraska's going to get killed. We'll get to.
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That Oh yes, we will. Because my God, that offensive
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line is. I'm guessing there's Valley's
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had better lines. It's bad. 9 sacks, 9 sacks, 9
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it's. Week after week after week, No.
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No, no, no, Ken, take me back to August.
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We had somebody that told us that they were going to have a
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better offensive line than Iowa. He did say that, but you know
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what he wrote about it. He he did me a culpa in his
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column yesterday. I'm going to have to read this
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one now. Me A.
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Culpa, Stephen M Simple, by the way, who will join us Thursday.
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Yeah, I'm sure he's looking. Forward to that there's he
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knows. I saw his Twitter, not his
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Twitter. But I have so many messages.
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Did you? Which was great.
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It's like, look at all the people out there listening.
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Yeah, it's good. And not just my buddies that
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were giggling about it, but just people in general absolutely
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killing SIP in. Minnesota is is is tough.
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They just absolutely destroyed Nebraska.
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Let's get Andy, then we'll move on.
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I want to talk about Otani. Oh, yeah.
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My good God. Hi, Andy.
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How are you? Hey, I'm a valley guy.
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I like that comment on the old life.
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Remember? Remember Ferris Bueller when he
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was gone 9 times for? 999, yeah.
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Yeah. That's Nebraska.
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Yeah, I treat talked about. I'm just joining, but yeah, I
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think I read a tweet. 2016 is the last time Iowa has converted
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A2 point conversion. Is that a fact?
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Holy. Mackerel.
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That's crazy. And then my thing with the field
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goal is you had a you had a chance to watch him be short by
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10 yards. I know it's all after the fact,
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but why didn't you dare say let's just drive a Hail Mary or
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punt it? I don't know.
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Yeah, I said earlier, Andy, I, I don't think that was a full
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swing from Stevens. I mean, watching it there in
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person, I don't think he gave full effort on that one and
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that's why I didn't have his. I was.
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I saw the same thing you did, Andy, and asked the same
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question, but apparently in the stadium it looked different, so
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we weren't there. Thanks, Andy.
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It. Was awesome being there.
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It was awesome being there. Great environment.
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Gohawk. Yeah, absolutely.
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It looked like it on TV, man, when you stripe out the stadium,
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that's a that's a special place. And you're and they showed it
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when the when the Penn State kicker was warmed up.
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I mean, you're right there, right?
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There, you're gonna hear it, you're gonna hear it.
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How about Mcsorley as I was re watching the game last.
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Night. Oh, I didn't see.
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What did he do? So they were talking and it was
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Gardner who I like Devin. Gardner, yeah, he's OK, yeah.
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He said he was talking to Mcsorley beforehand.
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Mcsorley said the loudest stadium he played in both in
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college and the pros was Connect Stadium.
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You know what? Now we do.
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Yeah, that you mentioned that. I do remember him saying that.
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Chase Mcsorley's played. He has.
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It's a big games. Yeah, big games.
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Oh, wow. Well, big win.
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Five and two. Off you go.
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Here comes Minnesota. Big win for the Gophers.
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And that game is going to be hideous, isn't it?
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It's going to be, you know, 10-9.
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Just just. Two.
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Yeah. Probably.
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This is you get to put two behemoths just running head
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first at each other for 60 minutes.
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What do you think men are so supported by?
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I know you were working. I had that.
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I had that on. So I didn't have.
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That was the only thing I put on.
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So I didn't get to see Louisville, didn't have the
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baseball game on. And I was Speaking of giggling.
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I was just. Oh yeah, all the way through.
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So I had it up there, but. I think he's OK, Lindsey.
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I think he's better than OK and he's a freshman.
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I think he's going to be really good.
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How did he get away? What did they say during the
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broadcast? His dad and his grandpa both
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played at Arkansas. I think that's what they said.
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And somehow he got there. Sam Pittman.
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Well, maybe that's the. Reason.
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Well, there's going to be a new staff coming in there is
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Gopher's going to have to pony up.
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I have a feeling they. Have a feeling you're right and
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I have a feeling they should and they and they probably will, but
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a big spot in Iowa is what? Where are they point spread
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wise? It's anywhere between Fanduel's.
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Got it at 7 1/2. So if you like the Hawks, open
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up your FanDuel app. There are nines out there at
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some place. 9 nines what I saw 7 1/2 and 7 1/2 at FanDuel and
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that was 11/30/45 minutes ago and there are nines on the
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board. I've seen that circus got a
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nine. Circus got a nine.
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Is FanDuel still 7 1/2? They are FanDuel 7 1/2, Yeah.
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So a wide range out there. I'd be grabbing those points.
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I think this is just Collision course 1310.
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Yeah, what are those games? 65.
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And the winner gets the second best trophy in all of sports.
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It's phenomenal. I love this week.
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It's a fun week. All right, Iowa State's going to
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get BYUI. Did not think BYU was for real.
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I'm still not convinced that they are.
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Where are we on the Big 12? Are you right?
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It's Plinko. You remember prices, right?
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Right. But the Plinko shit, nobody,
16:57
there's no control of it. Nobody knows where it's going to
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end up and that's what's going to happen in this league.
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It is Plinko every single. Week Texas Tech was head and
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shoulders I thought you thought was better than anybody else.
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Both loose. Both loose.
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I thought BYU was a fake. It was a fraud.
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It's a rivalry game. I get that point.
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This is why, like Iowa State this week.
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I mean, that's a big win for BYU.
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Now a huge win, not to go on the road after emotional victory
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like that, you're undefeated. There's a reason we see this
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happen locals aside in college football, when you see a team
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like this undefeated going on the road as a ranked team
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against an unranked team. I mean this is an automatic
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smash bot, but then this is lay the points with Iowa State,
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because historically these are the spots across college
17:40
football. Yet, yes, the home team wins and
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covers maybe convincingly because I'm still with you.
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All right, impressive. You beat your rival, But we know
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weird things happen in rivalry games, right?
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Not not every time the better team wins and and those kind of
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things. I I am left where I think Iowa
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State gets right and then we're right back to the same
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conversation because in this league, I I said this summer
18:01
multiple times, I won't be surprised if we see a four five
18:04
way tie at six and three for that second spot.
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And we're figuring out tie Breakers and going through all
18:09
kinds of maturations to kind of figure this.
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That's what this league is and it's compelling and it's fun,
18:15
but it's also one bed league because of that.
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And your mark, what are you thinking?
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Yeah, what are you thinking? Ohtani?
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Let's let's spend a minute on on Friday, Saturday night, which
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was look, we've seen guys hit three home runs.
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We've seen guys strike out ten. Yeah, we've never seen one guy
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do it in the same game. It was unbelievable, Trent
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watching the command he had on the mound and was it his second
18:39
home run the that left the left Dodger statement second or third
18:42
and. They were like 439 four. 69 No,
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he got short changed. Evidently the Geo fencing stops
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at that number because once it leaves the ballpark, it was
18:52
still going. I saw the I'm like, oh, that's
18:55
got to be short. That's 500 feet.
18:57
No one hits him that far, no. He did not get shortchanged and
19:01
then after he does that, what does he do?
19:03
I believe he came out then the next inning and struck out the
19:06
side. Just an amazing.
19:08
Performance. There's no superlatives that
19:10
work for this and it's this is the best baseball player we have
19:13
ever seen. It is.
19:14
It is. This might have been the single
19:16
bit best performance in a game we've ever look.
19:19
Michael Jordan made some huge shots, some huge shots in big
19:22
spots. I don't know who else would be
19:24
in that. Tiger Woods made some phenomenal
19:26
putts, right? Who else but in a team?
19:29
But Tiger sports an individual pursuit in a team sport.
19:33
What comes close? I'm sure Gretzky had seven goals
19:37
and three assists, but he didn't stop any.
19:39
Yeah, if he else had to go back to pets, Flick put out the pad,
19:42
Yeah. That's not happening.
19:44
This was unbelievable to me, watching that.
19:46
I just could. I was blown away.
19:48
And he'd been in a slump. We talked about it all last
19:51
week. They're doing this and Otani's
19:53
not hitting. Tom Brady in the 28th, 3 come
19:55
back victory. There's a good one, but he also
19:57
didn't put on the pads and go over and play free safety.
20:00
He wasn't knocking down any of those balls or making any
20:02
tackles. It was incredible to watch.
20:05
It was incredible to watch. I feel bad for the Brewers in an
20:08
in an effect because this at the this team had the best record in
20:11
baseball and they run up against that.
20:13
And you said it all season long and I thought you were wrong.
20:16
They've got that proverbial switch.
20:18
And I don't think it matters who wins tonight.
20:21
I don't think it does. I think it'd be better for Los
20:23
Angeles if it was Seattle because then they don't have to
20:26
travel, you know, to to 2123 time zones over.
20:32
Yeah, we got a Game 7 tonight. What do you think I don't like?
20:36
I don't love Bieber. Kirby was bad last time out.
20:39
I can't see that. Twice in a row.
20:40
And that, that was the first thought that I had, too.
20:44
I like Kirby too much. He's won a lot of money
20:46
throughout the year. Win the Cy Young this year,
20:48
Yeah. He he's been injury played this
20:50
season, but I believe in that guy more than Bieber.
20:54
Bieber. Gave Bieber was bad in the first
20:57
inning and then settled down in his last start.
20:59
And that was the best since. Yeah, it's been a while.
21:02
Yeah, it'd. Been a while, because those
21:03
first two starts were unbelievable.
21:05
Yeah. And then since then it's been at
21:07
best, average. Yep.
21:08
I'd usually blow that. Do you pitch to Guerrero at any
21:11
point tonight? I I think it depends on
21:14
situation but. It does.
21:15
I just think you walk. Him just walk him say you got to
21:18
beat us behind because. Let Barger beat you.
21:22
Right, my guy Alejandro. Kirk or or or Kirky or Ernie
21:26
Clement or any of these dudes. Varsho Varsho.
21:31
'S a nice player. He's good.
21:32
He's a really good. As long as you don't have
21:34
Springer behind him, yeah, 'cause he's the one guy you're
21:37
also still. That would be the one, Yeah, but
21:39
he would he he was over last night after he got knocked down
21:42
and he threw at the Jace twice again last night.
21:45
Do you see that, Chippy? I mean, they're not going to get
21:47
even tonight, one would assume, unless you're getting crushed,
21:50
right? Yeah, If you can't win the game
21:51
is well, I win the fight. That's what my dad always used
21:53
to tell me. Yeah, it was a different time
21:56
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I'm glad that, you know, as many people stop by and everybody, I
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think there were some big winners out there that was good.
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And I have to assume I haven't seen any numbers.
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I haven't saw any Intel but Urbandale Hyvee for that
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God, I hit it hard. Did you?
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Oh yeah bro, that was done. For the tailgate is obvious you
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did well, got set up after. So where did you you start?
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Did you go back to Prairie Meadows at the end of the night?
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And by then did you? Said uncle.
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I did. You did.
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You went back into Prairie. So we got.
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After the game, cars parked at Prairie.
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Let's go in there. So I walk in.
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Yeah, crap stable's full. So I go over to the the bubble
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craps, throw 100 bucks in there, lose it promptly walk back over
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to the crap stable, grab a beer. All right.
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Seemed like a good thing. It was a good idea.
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couple bucks in a slot machine turn my 60 into 70 all right
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Like 20 minutes gets to me. I promptly throw for almost an
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hour. It was the longest run I've ever
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had. I start with $200.
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Yes, I cash out with $999. It is the biggest craps win I
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have ever had in my life. The longest run by what?
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3:00-ish. It was a late night.
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How? Tough was it to get an Uber in
24:00
Altoona at that time. Not bad because I got to think
24:03
that they're hanging out there. Right.
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It was like a 15 minute wait, something like that.
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25:01
Let's get to our friend Scott. Dr. Mini covers college football
25:04
at the athletic. He was at Kennick Stadium on
25:07
Saturday night watching the Penn State Iowa game.
25:10
Doc joins us. Doc Trenton Ken, thank you for
25:12
coming on. I want to start with you, Doc,
25:15
and you tweeted about it and it is becoming more and more
25:18
apparent every single week just how bad some of these line
25:22
judges are. They get it wrong, Doc.
25:24
It's not just once a game and it's nothing to do with Iowa.
25:27
It's both teams. It's both ways.
25:30
But my God, something needs to be done.
25:32
It's happening more and more and more.
25:35
It is. It's terrible.
25:36
And I, I noticed it in just about every game, whether you're
25:40
watching it on television or in person, where I think it's even
25:43
worse because you could actually see where they are positioned.
25:46
And I, I don't, I, I would need a official to correct me on what
25:52
they are supposed to do during the, the game.
25:54
But most of them seem still stationed at the line of
25:58
scrimmage and don't start to move until the ball is the like
26:02
running back, for instance, has moved past them.
26:05
And a lot of times they are off by a yard because their angle is
26:09
not, is not, you know, it straight up and down.
26:13
And I think that's really something that needs to be
26:15
addressed, whether it's the their mechanics of the game or,
26:19
you know, or it needs to be corrected up above.
26:21
Cause the NFL actually does have that kind of the some of that
26:24
corrections, some of those corrections from their center.
26:28
And the Big 10 has a center in Chicago and I've been there in
26:32
Rosemont. And whether they need to say,
26:34
hey, that's up half a yard or that's up a full yard, it used
26:38
to happen because you know, when you're dealing with a game that
26:42
inches matter, you've kind of be able to be there right when it's
26:46
to make it as perfect as possible.
26:50
Doc, this was a performance from Iowa, very Iowa like victory
26:54
under 100 yards passing. Mark Gronowski playing with the
26:59
physical ailment, with the knee injury, having that big brace on
27:02
there had a couple of incredibly long runs, the game clincher and
27:04
the one that set up a touchdown by Ouija.
27:06
And just tell us a little bit about this guy.
27:09
You were at the forefront before he was even in the portal.
27:12
You talked about Iowa needed Mark Gronowski, what you saw
27:14
about him and as you got to hear him and get to know him a little
27:17
bit more, just let your take away on the Iowa quarterback.
27:22
He's a gamer, he's tough, he's hard nosed and he makes plays
27:27
and he's a winning football player.
27:29
And you sought at South Dakota State for all of those years.
27:32
They won national titles and you know, I think you see maybe
27:36
perhaps as limitations at this level.
27:38
We thought, you know, the first quarter of the first game, I
27:41
think all of us were like, Oh my, what happened here?
27:44
But and then it against Iowa State, he wasn't real good
27:47
either. And and through the passing
27:49
game. And I think part of that might
27:50
be Iowa S limitation at tight end, because I think he's a
27:53
tight end type of quarterback that could use somebody more and
27:57
more, you know, in the in between the the hashes and Iowa
28:01
doesn't have one at all. And I think that's a problem for
28:04
the Hawkeyes. But but in particular with him,
28:07
he uses his legs. He just makes plays that win
28:10
games. And to me that's, you know, and
28:13
I think most of us probably agree that Iowa wins the the
28:17
Indiana game if he's healthy. And it's not because of his arm
28:20
and it's because of how he engineers victory.
28:23
And that's and if if Iowa would have had a quarterback like him
28:28
in a couple of those Big 10 W seasons, you know, maybe even in
28:31
22 as well, you know, Iowa might have been able to squeeze off,
28:36
you know, one of those maybe a win in the in the Big 10
28:39
championship. It's, it's hard to say, you
28:40
know, the 23, you know, if they had him instead of Deacon Hill,
28:44
I think his team actually has a puncher's chance against
28:47
Michigan, even though that Michigan won the national title.
28:49
So I I like the makeup of him. I think the toughness is there.
28:53
And when he's out there, everybody believes in him and he
28:55
believes in himself. And I think that's there's
28:57
something to be said for that. Doc, I'm watching at least.
29:00
I believe Keon Entringer turned into an NFL football player.
29:04
He's been in his best the two biggest games they played in the
29:06
Big 10. I thought he was terrific
29:08
against Indiana, couple of missed tackles notwithstanding.
29:11
I don't think he missed a tackle the other the other night.
29:13
I thought he was all over the field.
29:15
Wamka was terrific in the football game, but entering her,
29:17
every time I watch this guy, he looks more and more like a guy
29:21
who's going to play at the next level.
29:22
To me, he's really turning it on at this point in his junior
29:26
year. It reminds me a lot of Dane
29:29
Belton. Yeah, I had 10 tackles yesterday
29:33
for the Giant. So if you know, that's an NFL
29:36
player there, I would say, you know, Dane was very, very quiet
29:39
where Cohen is very outspoken and, you know, more of a leader
29:44
type. And, and, you know, I, I think
29:47
he's getting there for sure. You know, he he I'm sure he
29:50
wanted that playback where he lined up offsides on gold and
29:53
one and, you know, and it ultimately cost him, you know,
29:56
because he wasn't an interest player in that play.
29:59
So that's that's really a killer.
30:01
But I'll tell you what I thought Xavier Wampa played by far his
30:04
best game. He was everywhere.
30:06
He's very he's always been a physical defender, but he was
30:08
around the ball. He was doing everything.
30:12
I mean, I I was very impressed with him.
30:14
That was the kind of player that everybody thought they were
30:15
going to get back when he committed and you know, and and
30:19
he was instrumental to me. And that victory is almost as
30:22
much as Mark Gronowski. So if their safeties are playing
30:26
like this, you know, and I think Zach Lummer is probably the best
30:30
defender, if not him, it's Aaron Graves.
30:33
And I, I think that, you know, they're, they're coming around
30:35
at the right time on defense and especially at the safety
30:38
position. They're having to do it a
30:40
different way this year. They're having to do it blitzing
30:42
a whole lot more and not just on, you know, passing
30:45
situations. Phil's always like that
30:46
cornerback blitz. That's always something that
30:47
he's had in his back pocket. But they're bringing pressure
30:50
from all over the place. Are you surprised to see just
30:53
the defensive DNA changing this much kind of on the fly this
30:57
season? Because yeah, they'll bring some
30:59
blitzes, But we know percentage wise it's some of the lowest in
31:01
college football that Phil Parker, this late in his career
31:04
is also changing up the way that they're doing things.
31:08
It is a it is a change. I mean, I think you're seeing
31:10
change across the board how they, you know, have attacked on
31:13
offense, but but you're right on defense, there are blitzing with
31:16
much more regularity than I've noticed over the years.
31:19
And and, you know, and and I think part of it is, you know,
31:23
he does it not just by feel, but also by design, which, you know,
31:28
maybe he's looking at the defensive line is not getting to
31:31
the quarterback as as much as it maybe needs to.
31:34
And so he figures he was he would force the quarterback to
31:38
speed up his game. And when you're playing, you
31:41
know, first time starter on the road the other day, that made
31:44
perfect sense, you know, forced him to make a a read a decision.
31:48
And if he can get there, great. And Penn State's receiving corps
31:52
is much worse. I thought it would be good this
31:55
year. It's not good.
31:56
And I think that was part of it too.
31:58
But but but I think the also the choices were against Fernando
32:01
Mendoza was don't let this guy pick you apart because he does
32:04
have receivers and he is very accurate that you're going to
32:06
have to just, you know, take your shot.
32:09
So I find it really interesting. I don't know what he'll do
32:12
though, this week against Drake Lindsay, who is really played
32:18
well. I think this year is a first
32:20
time starter red shirt freshman and he's got a lot of abilities
32:24
and and I I'd assume that they're probably going to
32:26
continue to blitz more because they do have some decent
32:29
receivers. And and this way, if they blitz,
32:32
then they'll catch the Darius Taylor mostly to the line with
32:37
regularity because he's actually a very, very good running back
32:39
as well. Doc, I want to Fast forward to,
32:43
well, get to your get to your column on your playoff
32:45
projections of as far as how you have it after this last week is
32:51
the Miami. And I'm just assuming here
32:54
obviously, 'cause I think Georgia Tech is really good.
32:56
And, and yes, I watched with my own two eyes Miami go down in
33:00
flames, which was kind of shocking.
33:02
Might that be if Georgia Tech beats Miami in that game?
33:05
Might the ACC be a one bid league again?
33:10
If they play each other, I you know, I think that that's very
33:13
possible. I mean, 2 Lost Miami then gets
33:17
cast in and compared with teams in the SEC, teams in the Big 10
33:23
that may have two losses. And then you're looking at at
33:27
strength of schedules and and those types of things down.
33:30
Miami still fairly strong there and based on who it's beaten.
33:34
But when you look at the, you know, Florida's not going to
33:37
have a winning record probably at the end of the year.
33:39
And, you know, Florida State is just completely bottomed out.
33:44
You know, Notre Dame is a good win for them and that'll
33:46
probably help me get them in that position.
33:49
But yeah, but if they're if they're 11 and 2, they probably
33:53
still get in. But if they're tended to and
33:56
don't make the ACC championship, which is very possible, that's
34:00
something that they probably won't, you know, like Virginia I
34:04
think has to probably win out because it lost to NC State and
34:07
non conference conference game. So, so, but I think the ACC is
34:12
is like 1 1/2, whereas you look at the the Big 12, if Texas Tech
34:18
would have made it all the way to the championship and lost,
34:20
then maybe it had a chance. Now in 11 and 2, Texas Tech may
34:25
not get in. It's it's going to be a cruel
34:27
business for those we. It is the Notre Dame punch their
34:30
ticket, assuming they went out. They've put themselves in a
34:34
really good position to do that. You know, I, I, I don't know if
34:37
their, their schedule that people are going to look at it
34:40
and judge it as pretty light. And I, I think that's fair.
34:44
But beating USCI mean, I don't know USC, if they turn out to be
34:48
8 and four and that's their best win, how do they get judged
34:51
against? You know, there's the runner up
34:53
from the Big 12, the 4th or 15 for me to the Big 10 or the OR
34:57
the SEC. That's, that's going to be
34:59
interesting conversation because you know what they did versus
35:02
what Illinois did to, you know, if Illinois say 10 and two and
35:07
they're, they're 10 and two, how does that measure up?
35:09
It'll be it'll be interesting to see how that that plays out. 10
35:12
and 2, Notre Dame against ten and two Iowa.
35:16
There's one spot left. I'll just say everybody else
35:18
kind of separates themselves from the pack.
35:20
We got a group of five team in there or ACC or Big 12.
35:22
There's one spot left. Who gets the nod, the Irish or
35:26
the Hawkeyes? Oh, it'd have to be Iowa.
35:29
I don't think it'd be close. I mean, you look at I mean they
35:33
both would have beaten USC. Iowa would have done it on.
35:36
I would have beaten or in at home, you know, Iowa, you know,
35:41
they the close losses that that Notre Dame has had will be
35:47
negated by Iowa's close losses. I mean, to Indiana and in Iowa
35:52
State, so, yeah, I mean, Iowa's resume at that point would be
35:55
much stronger than Notre Dame's, but but Iowa has to get there.
35:58
I'm not so sure that that's what I would be betting on right now
36:01
at Circus Sports. Last thing, Doc, help me out
36:05
with this whole private equity talk is, is this going to happen
36:07
when it comes to the Big 10? I don't know.
36:11
And I, I, I would say no would be my first response because
36:16
Michigan is very forceful again, and USC is probably even more
36:19
so. They're just not as vocal.
36:21
But I talked to some Michigan people last week and there,
36:24
there's really no way they're going to approve this right now.
36:26
And, and part of it came for them was that, you know, they
36:31
were kind of in the middle, mushy middle there until Penn
36:35
State fired James Franklin. And then, then, then it kind of
36:37
came down to, well, we don't want to, we don't really need
36:41
the money. We've been fiscally responsible.
36:43
Other schools have not been. And now we've got to, we're
36:46
going to use this so they can pay James Franklin's buyout.
36:50
No, we're, we're not, we're not going there right now.
36:53
So I, I would say that it gets very much stalled at the moment.
36:57
And I would trend towards doubtful that, that maybe what
37:01
their, what their idea is, and this makes sense is, you know,
37:04
schools get lower interest rates by going to their local banks.
37:07
Why don't they just do that instead of instead of going
37:09
through this private equity thing to tie everybody down for
37:12
20 years when you don't know what the landscape of college
37:15
sports are going to be in 10? We got 10 seconds and what I do
37:18
want to ask you this since you cover college football and
37:20
obviously the Big 10, this UCLA story that's took a wrote
37:24
another positive chapter this week.
37:25
Now the water gets deeper this weekend, but quite a story if
37:29
with what the UCLA is putting together, at least at this part
37:32
of the year. A lot of fun, you know, I mean,
37:35
who knows if they do anything in Indiana, but I think so far they
37:39
have been a tremendous revival in the span of a of a season.
37:43
Thanks. What do you got coming up this
37:44
week at The Athletic, Scott? I'm really digging into some
37:48
Wisconsin stuff right now. I mean, you got to go there and
37:52
and I've been around Iowa women's basketball story.
37:55
So I think that's it's it's there's a lot of good going on
37:59
for the women's basketball team. So I'm going to try to shoehorn
38:01
one of those in this week. We'll watch for it at The
38:04
Athletic. Scott Dockerman joins us.
38:06
Appreciate it, Scott. We'll talk to you next Monday if
38:08
your schedule allows. Thank you very much.
38:10
All right. Thank you.
38:11
Appreciate it. Good to talk to you, Scott
38:12
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up at will, call you can't win them and say, well, Bill
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Dankelwich told me that I could pick them up for him.
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Bill can't make it. Well, sorry, Bills, names on the
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tickets. Who's Bill?
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Use that name all the time. Long story, and it gets me every
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time. Yeah, Ernie Rosnagle and Bill
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Dankelwich. Boy, oh boy.
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Hey, craziest NFL game was what was it the Chiefs and the and
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the and the Raiders? I mean one team at 31st Downs
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one team at 3:00. Don't see that very often.
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Don't see that? Very often, I mean, the Giants
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and the Broncos was all. World, that was, yeah.
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And when he missed the extra point, the Giants kid.
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I saw an opening. You knew it was over.
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I didn't know it was over. I mean, but that's the Bronco
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fandom in me. But there was that.
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About, I don't know, 555? I felt like no chance.
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My survivor shot is improving immensely.
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Packers are going to go down. The Broncos are going to go
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down. Who did you settle on?
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I didn't take the bears. Took the Patriots.
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Didn't take the Patriots. I'm saving them tonight.
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Late night. Oh, Seattle, the sweat is going
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to be only 51 of us. I'll have a big leg up in the
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competition, but we got to get home against that Texas defense.
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I thought you were already home free Hour 2 is next.
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Bama kicks it off. It's Des Moines Sports station
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