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SEASON 2 DA CREW PODCAST_ EPISODE _143_ HOST SHANETTE W JOHNSON · DA CREW Podcast

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Speaker 1: H hey, ho hey, and welcome to another episode of
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Speaker 1: the Through podcast.
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Speaker 2: I am your visionary Queen Angel And if.
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Speaker 3: You are a diva that's looking to amplify your voice
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Speaker 3: and you're looking for a whole we have faith for you.
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Speaker 3: Come on over and join Gim Diva's up, yeahwey and
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Speaker 3: amplify your voice?
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Speaker 2: All things? And where has all the bluecs fumtable for
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Speaker 2: something long person? All things? And what the who do know?
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Speaker 4: My name is Karen Thompson. I'm the staff attorney at
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Speaker 4: the Edison's Project and I've worked here for three and
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Speaker 4: a half years. Black History Month matters to me, and
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Speaker 4: it matters to the work at the Innison's Project because
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Speaker 4: black history has made up a significant and painful part
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Speaker 4: of our criminal justice system, and given the history of
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Speaker 4: lynchings and unfair treatment of black people over the last
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Speaker 4: three centuries, we have a special need and a special
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Speaker 4: connection to injustice when it comes to race in the
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Speaker 4: United States. I particularly kind of moved and pained, even now,
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Speaker 4: one hundred years after the fact, by the case of
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Speaker 4: a man named Claude Neil, who was the last what
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Speaker 4: they called the spectacle lynching in Florida, and when people
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Speaker 4: talk about respective lynchings. It is the killing of a
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Speaker 4: black person who is usually wrongfully accused or not even
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Speaker 4: given the chance.
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Speaker 2: To have due process of law by a mob of
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Speaker 2: white people.
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Speaker 4: And in that killing, there was a unbelievable, almost unspeakable
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Speaker 4: brutality that was done to this person. And so Claude
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Speaker 4: Neil was accused of raping and murdering a white teenager
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Speaker 4: in Florida in nineteen thirty four. At level of brutality
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Speaker 4: and our silence around it is a country, and our
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Speaker 4: silence around the trauma that it cost communities.
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Speaker 5: Of color.
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Speaker 4: Inspire me to do this work every day. And although
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Speaker 4: we aren't lunching people in the color courtrooms, and although
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Speaker 4: we're not dragging people from their homes and doing the
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Speaker 4: things that I just described, there are ways that we
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Speaker 4: are allowing our system to fail people based on race.
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Speaker 4: And so part of my work here is to try
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Speaker 4: to address and remedy those wrongdoings.
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Speaker 6: Let's talk about it with your hope. Shent Johnson. Join
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Speaker 6: me every first and third Monday of the month at
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Speaker 6: eight pm Eastern standards, and let's talk about you re
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Speaker 6: easing and thank you for joining me for another episode
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Speaker 6: of Talk about it all right, a shot when I've
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Speaker 6: seen the little commercial we just played on Angela just
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Speaker 6: played for me about the or what we just watched,
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Speaker 6: or my mind I get mynd freeze for my mind
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Speaker 6: freeze sometime.
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Speaker 2: But by the Innocent Project down back a. As you
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Speaker 2: know that statistics.
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Speaker 6: Shows that the black man is the number one are
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Speaker 6: the number one men to be wrongfully unlawful convicted. They
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Speaker 6: also are the ones that serve the longest time out
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Speaker 6: of any ethnic groups. On today's show, we're going to
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Speaker 6: be talking about different topics. Fix We're going to talk
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Speaker 6: about Adynist Washington. He's currently in Texas on This is
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Speaker 6: my co host calling me. He's currently in Texas and
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Speaker 6: I received a letter from him on Friday stating about
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Speaker 6: the conditions of what he's dealing with right now. We're
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Speaker 6: going to get into that once I bring my co
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Speaker 6: hosts up.
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Speaker 2: And we are. He's going to be joining in a minute.
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Speaker 6: We have Angela it's going to be joining it wells
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Speaker 6: as well. We're going to talk about what's going on
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Speaker 6: ventanol as we know it been around, but it's in
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Speaker 6: the it's in the prison systems now and it's starting
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Speaker 6: to the men's in there are starting to get come
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Speaker 6: in contact with it. And in Texas you had a
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Speaker 6: couple of them that past this week in the prison.
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Speaker 2: So we're going to talk about that.
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Speaker 6: Also in California, I stayed yesterday about a federal correctional officer.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I forgot that he was in Terminal
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Speaker 2: Island or downtown.
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Speaker 6: Someone mailed it in meiling it into an mate, and
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Speaker 6: in the paper it stated that they was mail than
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Speaker 6: there as legal mail. Well it didn't. They didn't mail
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Speaker 6: it in as legal male. So it went to the
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Speaker 6: mail room and once the person opened the mail and
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Speaker 6: came in contact with it, he got sick. He went
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Speaker 6: to the hospital and later on he passed away. It's
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Speaker 6: so much going on in these prisons that they're not
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Speaker 6: making not the family is not aware of or you know,
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Speaker 6: they not shedding. They keeping it hush hush. So we
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Speaker 6: want to kind of bring a little light into what's
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Speaker 6: going on and text. We want to talk about Juan
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Speaker 6: Johnson case. We want to talk about mister Legate's case.
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Speaker 6: Whatever time can commit, we're gonna talk about it because
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Speaker 6: that's what we do.
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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it.
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Speaker 6: If you guys have any questions or you want to
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Speaker 6: try in, please text it and if Angela's see it,
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Speaker 6: we'll touch on it.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 6: My co host, you guys know him, Cornelle is here. Cornell,
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Speaker 6: how are you doing this evening?
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Speaker 5: Hello, ma'am, how you doing tonight? I'm doing quick to
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Speaker 5: thank you very much for happening.
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Speaker 6: You're welcome and Angela, Angela being out here in California
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Speaker 6: and tomorrow, she she even me, even me, it was
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Speaker 6: a joy to have her here over here and just to.
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Speaker 2: Watch her work. She worked NonStop. A lot of people
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Speaker 2: don't know she. I actually seen her stay up to
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Speaker 2: do her.
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Speaker 6: Homework because she's going to school to get the magazine ready,
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Speaker 6: to get the book ready to be release. The book
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Speaker 6: released on time or even before time. So she's a
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Speaker 6: very hard working woman. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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Speaker 6: This morning, she was just off cop coffee. I had
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Speaker 6: to tell her to go to sleep because she was
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Speaker 6: still going. But Angela, I am going to miss you
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Speaker 6: and thank you for allowing me to see to actually
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Speaker 6: see you at work and the hope and the behind
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Speaker 6: the scenes of doing a podcast. So with that being said,
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Speaker 6: I'm gonna let Angela introduce herself and then we're gonna
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Speaker 6: get into our topic for tonight.
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Speaker 8: Hey everyone, So for those that do not know who
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Speaker 8: I am, I'm affectionally known as the Queen of Collaboration.
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Speaker 8: I have my hands in a lot. I am the
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Speaker 8: visionary of Here, the Crew Podcast. I am the visionary
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Speaker 8: of Aspiring Authors, Magazine, every platform that I am a
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Speaker 8: part of. I just truly desire to be the change
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Speaker 8: that I want to see in this world. So I
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Speaker 8: utilize my voice, my skills, my talents, my gifts, everything
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Speaker 8: that God gives me to pour into people to hopefully educate,
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Speaker 8: empower and encourage them to stay on this journey we
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Speaker 8: call life because we all got purpose. So that that's
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Speaker 8: just the gist of me. I'm just out here just
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Speaker 8: trying to be the change that I want to see
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Speaker 8: in this world.
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Speaker 2: That's all.
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Speaker 6: And you guys, I'm telling you, Charleston, when she come
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Speaker 6: over there, you're going to see her at work, Patrese,
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Speaker 6: make her go to sleep. Make sure you get some
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Speaker 6: rest when she get over there, because in California she
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Speaker 6: was up all and working and it's time for her
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Speaker 6: to get a little race. So let's get into our topic.
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Speaker 6: Adonis Uh co host, can you give them. A little
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Speaker 6: background of Adonis Washington, since you are familiar with him.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes, ma'am, yes man, mister Donalds was Washington. He
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Speaker 5: was charged with attesting murder and Santa Thomas, Texas. Okay,
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Speaker 5: the logistics and mister Donason's cases. The fact that one
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Speaker 5: day him and from Sandra was sitting in my house
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Speaker 5: and he was sitting on the couch playing with the
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Speaker 5: weapon and the victor was sitting on the floor walking television.
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Speaker 5: So while they're sitting there playing uh television, he was
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Speaker 5: playing with this footman the welkom accidentally did charged and
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Speaker 5: his proceeding and when the hits the scene, the foot
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Speaker 5: recrecheated down and hit the victim in the top of
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Speaker 5: the head. The uh uh, the stealing sheep block came
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Speaker 5: down off the seating and got into the hair and
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Speaker 5: the hair of okay, so what ha happened? Unfortunately for
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Speaker 5: mister dalas man, they tried to cover it up and
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Speaker 5: when the police came and investigate, they made a different
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Speaker 5: servie had to the fact that what really happened during
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Speaker 5: that the gate But when the distra turns off got
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Speaker 5: the case, mister attorney's office found out that uh they
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Speaker 5: had gave false testimonies cost statements. So when indeed it
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Speaker 5: turned around and turned the case untelling attention of murder
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Speaker 5: byus a method examin to say that the bullet wounds
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Speaker 5: the victim's hand with the direct contact woll. So this
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Speaker 5: will happened with the Adonisis while he was down here
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Speaker 5: at GDC he started to investigating in this case. So
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Speaker 5: what he then was confected a merk examine about the
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Speaker 5: name of mister Hackey Jason new and looking to the
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Speaker 5: back of the case. And when he did, he come
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Speaker 5: to learn that the briller had rectated off the seat,
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Speaker 5: and when the set bart came down and get the
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Speaker 5: victim in the egg. So when we made a bequest
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Speaker 5: for them to produce the foods, they only produced all
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Speaker 5: birds had pass of them. They did not produce the
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Speaker 5: bullet that had the defect. And then on the recochet.
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Speaker 5: So mister BW had turned around the quare. Well now
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Speaker 5: he pulled it out that the briller was a precchet,
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Speaker 5: that it was a pact to them. On that well,
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Speaker 5: I got back to hill when mister Donalds followed his case,
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Speaker 5: who followed his deficiencies of evidence that he did not
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Speaker 5: cause the death of the victim. I caused him the
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Speaker 5: contact room, one of the diffices of the greed with
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Speaker 5: him and said that mister Donald's was actually innocent and
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Speaker 5: that and I said, if cake did not food contact
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Speaker 5: God went woman. Well, unfortunately for mister donas his caste
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Speaker 5: for the firm by the Floor of Appeals, his page
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Speaker 5: was actually a firm for December the twenty four, which
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Speaker 5: is an impossible date because we all know all purtousers
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Speaker 5: and most major government official operations close because of twenty four.
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Speaker 5: So now here it is. He's been trying to get
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Speaker 5: some type of people to get involved in this case, man,
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Speaker 5: and unfortunately that journey because now he's in a very
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Speaker 5: serious situation right now and we haven't been able to
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Speaker 5: do thatticitation.
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Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, so that's said that. That's just sad because.
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Speaker 8: Individuals, Man, I'm just listening, and people make mistakes, and
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Speaker 8: instead of them correcting their mistake and owning up to
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Speaker 8: their mistakes, they will rather cover it up and don't
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Speaker 8: care about the hardship that they're putting on people. Because
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Speaker 8: if they would just rectify their error, rectify what they've
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Speaker 8: done wrong, they could give this man some relief and
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Speaker 8: he can come home and it could help with the
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Speaker 8: betterment of his life. Because right now, from my understanding,
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Speaker 8: a dunist didn't have any.
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Speaker 2: Type of medical issues.
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Speaker 8: I think he may have wre prescription glasses upon entering
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Speaker 8: the prison. But now this man is suffering from all
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Speaker 8: types of medical issues issues. We've been receiven letters that
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Speaker 8: is very concerning. I've written a couple of people about what.
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Speaker 2: Was written to me. You have a man that says that.
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Speaker 8: He's legally blind and he has to have other inmates
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Speaker 8: help him. How did this man become legally blind? He
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Speaker 8: tells me that he's been having blood pressures issues and
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Speaker 8: that he's suffered three strokes and have not received the
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Speaker 8: proper medical attention. So how do a inmate end up
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Speaker 8: in a medical facility along by themselves on a stretcher?
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Speaker 8: Is that a normal practice that we do within the
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Speaker 8: prison system. Do we just wield inmates and just leave
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Speaker 8: them on a stretcher?
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Speaker 2: If they're none responsible, we just leave them just no none.
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Speaker 8: Care and just pushing them. This man said he thought
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Speaker 8: he was dead. He said that did he said itself?
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Speaker 8: Let me check my bibles, because a dead man don't
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Speaker 8: have vitals, So he managed to get to a blood
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Speaker 8: pressure machine and check his blood pressure. He said his
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Speaker 8: blood pressure was two hundred and thirty three over one
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Speaker 8: hundred and eighty seven.
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Speaker 2: Stroke level.
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Speaker 8: Remind you, he said, he has been had had suffered
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Speaker 8: three strokes. Yet they leave this man unattended. So my
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Speaker 8: question is, did y'all think that this this man was
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Speaker 8: dead and y'all just pushed him off to the side
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Speaker 8: so that he could die.
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Speaker 2: Is that what y'all are doing inside?
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, Jack, he said that he heard a
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Speaker 6: correction officer standing over ring saying that she hoped that
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Speaker 6: he died.
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Speaker 2: There was a witness side several several other inmates that
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Speaker 2: also wrote statements. You know, people are.
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Speaker 8: Tied of individuals and that have the power to that
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Speaker 8: that have taken these sworn oaths, because we have to
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Speaker 8: take a sworn oath. I've been a correction officer. Ain't
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Speaker 8: nothing nobody told me. We went through the training. You
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Speaker 8: go through the training, they go step by step that
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Speaker 8: you you go over the oath. They talk about the oath,
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Speaker 8: They tell you what you can do, what you can't do.
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Speaker 8: We even do scenarios. So there's no way if these
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Speaker 8: people are going to the proper academies and going through
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Speaker 8: the training, you know these things. But then we get
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Speaker 8: in situations and then we want to alter and we
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Speaker 8: want to do what we want to do right because
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Speaker 8: we got authority. Now we have power. So now instead
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Speaker 8: of utilizing the power that we have to to to
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Speaker 8: do something. See when I was a correction officer, I
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Speaker 8: became a correction officer because I wanted to help people.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to.
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Speaker 8: Help those that had made a mistake get back out
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Speaker 8: on the street and be able to be productive citizens
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Speaker 8: because I know it can be done. And if these
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Speaker 8: officers are true, uh believe in true rehababilitation and what
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Speaker 8: they can offer.
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Speaker 2: People, don't just do it for the money, because.
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Speaker 8: Really there's no money and there's no money in correctional office.
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Speaker 8: If you have a passion for helping people, if you
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Speaker 8: don't have a passion for seeing rehabilitation and and and
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Speaker 8: trying to be that outlet. See what correctional officers fail
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Speaker 8: to realize is that you are the you. You are
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Speaker 8: that that one person that could help alter these people's
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Speaker 8: mindsets that are behind pretty wall. Because get what, you're
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Speaker 8: with them every day, you're with.
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Speaker 2: Them just as much as you're at your own home.
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Speaker 8: So they're just much a part in your family as
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Speaker 8: your family is, because when.
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Speaker 2: You're not with your family, you're there.
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Speaker 8: So my thing is right, If that's what I have
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Speaker 8: to be, then I wanted to feel like a family,
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Speaker 8: a family, ye, So I want to be able to
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Speaker 8: nurture these people. I want to be able to care
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Speaker 8: for these people, have empathy for these people, have compassion
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Speaker 8: for these people. And that's what a lot of these
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Speaker 8: professionals don't have.
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Speaker 2: Y'all have something to say. He wants to jump in.
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Speaker 5: Okay, that's a good point to be made, mister Smith.
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Speaker 5: And the issue with prison life, ma'am, is the fact
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Speaker 5: that they constify us as minister to society that we
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Speaker 5: have classified as we wrote off as you know, people
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Speaker 5: who commit clime and society. So they really don't feel
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Speaker 5: that we deserve any type of respect that's under humanity.
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Speaker 5: So when we come over.
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Speaker 2: That's not anything that's not having judicial system because I
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Speaker 2: know judicial systems.
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Speaker 5: Right now.
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Speaker 8: We can talk to several people. We have a young
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Speaker 8: lady that's on our prayer call. They're connected with a
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Speaker 8: judge in Florida and Quincy, Florida, that lady do not
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Speaker 8: believe in a lot of the stuff that's going on
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Speaker 8: in Texas.
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Speaker 2: She do not do that.
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Speaker 8: In her court. She believed in giving these juveniles a
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Speaker 8: second chance. She believed in and giving them an opportunity
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Speaker 8: to rehabilitate themselves before she put them in prison.
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Speaker 2: She won't.
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Speaker 8: She believed in word programs. So you get to have
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Speaker 8: people that stuff. But when you don't have people.
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Speaker 6: See you, you don't have people that basically believe in it.
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Speaker 6: If you come going a courtroom, they just like, Okay,
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Speaker 6: that comes with stereotype, you know. They all they think
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Speaker 6: all black people are the same and we're not.
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Speaker 5: So that's how I.
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Speaker 6: Basically believe some of them judges, some of the d as,
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Speaker 6: that's how they're looking at these men. They thinking that.
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Speaker 2: They already got their mind made up. Yeah they didn't
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Speaker 2: because look where they grew up at look where they
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Speaker 2: came from. There's no learn home and mama doing this
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Speaker 2: and all of that other stuff.
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Speaker 6: When that's not true, Cornell uh.
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Speaker 5: Here in prison, ma'am. Okay, city officers and nurses and administration,
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Speaker 5: they feel that they are a law well because they
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Speaker 5: work for the state of text So the way they
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Speaker 5: treat inmates. They are taught to treat inmates like they
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Speaker 5: just a minute society. So therefore they holler at us.
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Speaker 5: They don't expect us. So now, because our prison systems
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Speaker 5: are not closed up with drugs. Man, every time something
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Speaker 5: happens to an endmate, automatically they think that the ndmates
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Speaker 5: drugs or that he's done the influence or something, or
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Speaker 5: he's you know, some type of influence of drugs. So
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Speaker 5: what that man said that for the medicine of situation
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Speaker 5: over here, Man, we cannot get from the medical attention
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Speaker 5: while because they already have programmed us to be drug addic.
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Speaker 5: And for us right now we have methan, we have
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Speaker 5: methotatic means, we have facts system that is right now.
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Speaker 2: Because y'all y'all not doing that and ordering it.
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Speaker 8: I can't order it on Uber because I know somebody
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Speaker 8: ordered some Uber and it got turned a red.
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Speaker 2: So I know they're not ordering on Uber. So how
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Speaker 2: is how is it there?
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Speaker 8: It has to be coming in through the administration, has
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Speaker 8: to be coming in through the correction office, has to
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Speaker 8: be coming in through the contractors, and if they're doing
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Speaker 8: proper check in, it can't be coming in through visits.
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Speaker 2: It could because I've been on both ends.
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Speaker 8: So ain't nothing nobody telling me that.
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Speaker 2: Whether it's a will, that's a way. I'm telling you.
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Speaker 8: There are judicial systems and there are correctional facilities that
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Speaker 8: are operating the way that they are supposed to be operating.
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Speaker 8: And if one can operate the way they're supposed to,
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Speaker 8: and they all can operate.
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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, let's finding down that's true.
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Speaker 2: Man.
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Speaker 5: Let's just thinking. So as of right now now our
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Speaker 5: system is so probably bloody hand makes a diament right
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Speaker 5: now as we speak. They just came over here ten
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Speaker 5: going will another inmate out of here for satan? All
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Speaker 5: right now? So the point round is this that we
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Speaker 5: have a pricticious here in our prison system of plugs, ma'am.
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Speaker 5: And with this being said, the administration now they don't
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Speaker 5: do nothing to try to curb these problems. They don't
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Speaker 5: have no programs and fallows our drug after them and something.
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Speaker 5: I put a tracking program and they try to help
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Speaker 5: these kids get off of these clubs.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 5: Me myself, I'm in the first tective campaign and what
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Speaker 5: I did just this recently, I took the major, the
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Speaker 5: TDT Major Extra ward and with me. They told him
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Speaker 5: to watch me acts for inmates to show them what
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Speaker 5: weekn do the time to keep these kissing you us
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Speaker 5: instead of that god that I immediately ask teaching of them,
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Speaker 5: which one of y'all using drugs? They immediately they set up.
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Speaker 5: One guy said I smoke weed. I said, well, okay,
25:10
Speaker 5: what did you do?
25:11
Speaker 2: He said?
25:11
Speaker 5: When I talked they what did you can.
25:13
Speaker 2: Reach out to?
25:13
Speaker 5: I said, well, look, leok me at us. Let's push
25:15
Speaker 5: that to the sie. If you can take in your
25:18
Speaker 5: life right now stop using their clubs would do that
25:21
Speaker 5: and they said yes. I said, so what is the problem.
25:24
Speaker 5: Why is you're using lugs? They said, because we do
25:27
Speaker 5: not have any incentives to help her to stop using
25:30
Speaker 5: blood and the major immunity say, come on, man, whenever
25:33
Speaker 5: you need to go get it and come back back
25:35
Speaker 5: and do whatever you need to do. But the chaplain
25:38
Speaker 5: over here do not want to provide me the necessities
25:41
Speaker 5: of the speakers and the microphones and the things that
25:45
Speaker 5: I would need to go back there and to be
25:46
Speaker 5: able to help these kids understand the importance of using
25:50
Speaker 5: drugs and how it's killing them. So as of right now,
25:53
Speaker 5: they have to shut the program all the way down.
25:56
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's the point I want to jump in,
25:59
Speaker 2: and I don't mean to cut you off.
26:02
Speaker 7: For them as a community, as a parent, it all
26:12
Speaker 7: starts home at home.
26:16
Speaker 2: It all starts in the house.
26:18
Speaker 6: We shouldn't wait and to wait until our child or
26:23
Speaker 6: a loved one get into the prison system too, that
26:30
Speaker 6: that's doing drugs.
26:32
Speaker 2: Or what may it be.
26:33
Speaker 6: We should be the ones to get to them and
26:36
Speaker 6: talk to them before because sometimes they go to they
26:40
Speaker 6: getting these go to jail, or some of them is
26:43
Speaker 6: not coming home as you see, they're getting getting this
26:46
Speaker 6: fen and all despice, whatever it may be, they getting
26:50
Speaker 6: hold to and they not coming home.
26:56
Speaker 2: So I believe that I believe that it has to
27:01
Speaker 2: start before they reached the prison system. It has to
27:05
Speaker 2: start in the home. We have to be able to
27:08
Speaker 2: sit down and talk to our children, you know. I
27:12
Speaker 2: mean most parents sit down there and talk.
27:14
Speaker 6: To their parents their kids like they homeboys and homegirls,
27:17
Speaker 6: you know, like their best friends. Okay, but it's a
27:21
Speaker 6: way to have a discussion with your child. Then stepping
27:26
Speaker 6: over that line, I tried when I have my children,
27:31
Speaker 6: when my children was coming up, and I.
27:33
Speaker 2: Still talk to them and stuff, and.
27:37
Speaker 6: But I tell them I'm your mother, I'm not your
27:40
Speaker 6: little I'm not your little friend. You play with your
27:42
Speaker 6: little friends, but you're not gonna play with me. And
27:44
Speaker 6: I love you so much, I'm gonna give you the truth, okay.
27:49
Speaker 6: And so as parents, we can't be scared to give
27:52
Speaker 6: our kids the truth. We don't want to see them
27:56
Speaker 6: going down that path.
27:58
Speaker 2: You know, I.
28:05
Speaker 6: Spending all these kids is dying in elementary of all.
28:13
Speaker 7: Reason.
28:14
Speaker 2: And if you all a loved one that's incarcerated, you
28:17
Speaker 2: gotta understand too.
28:18
Speaker 8: If you got a loved one that is constantly calling
28:21
Speaker 8: you and asking you for money, begging you to put
28:24
Speaker 8: money on their books, or sending cash, happing and and
28:27
Speaker 8: sending money to someone else, you gotta understand that they
28:30
Speaker 8: got a draw a problem because they're not gonna keep calling.
28:32
Speaker 2: And asking for money because they don't need money like that.
28:35
Speaker 8: They only get to go to the commissary every so often,
28:38
Speaker 8: and then they only can have a certain amount of
28:40
Speaker 8: money money on their commissary. So when when when you
28:44
Speaker 8: having these individuals that's always calling you and asking you
28:48
Speaker 8: for to put money on their book, then you gotta
28:50
Speaker 8: understand that your loved one got an issue and you
28:52
Speaker 8: might want to be questioning and and and and figuring
28:56
Speaker 8: out what's going on with your loved one and then
28:59
Speaker 8: setting some boundary, set in some rules, and.
29:01
Speaker 2: Put some stuff in play. Because if you if you
29:04
Speaker 2: spend it hour, I'm telling you, spend dollars a week,
29:10
Speaker 2: that that's an issue, that that's an issue.
29:15
Speaker 5: Go ahead, Well, cannot cannot depend on what mister missus
29:20
Speaker 5: Snett said about community. Okay, in my opinion, and I
29:27
Speaker 5: feel that you know, kids school turn up. A parent
29:30
Speaker 5: can do a lot. A parent can do a lot
29:32
Speaker 5: of shot to stop their kids from you the drugs,
29:34
Speaker 5: but you can only do so much. We have our
29:38
Speaker 5: community who are part of these kids' lives every day.
29:43
Speaker 5: And my opinion is the fact that the fools to
29:46
Speaker 5: make a manager of the policy program, a policy program,
29:50
Speaker 5: a georgy.
29:51
Speaker 2: APIs and the kids not that you tell We used to.
29:56
Speaker 5: Have what recall, a spare straight program and a spare
29:59
Speaker 5: state program to take kids and show them why they
30:02
Speaker 5: should not commit crimes, why they should not use drugs.
30:06
Speaker 5: They they don't to go programs. Okay, Now, because the
30:11
Speaker 5: epidemic of drugs that're so heck in our society today,
30:14
Speaker 5: we need to rethink our food system. We need to
30:18
Speaker 5: rethink our community system. And we need to have those
30:21
Speaker 5: people to get involved with these kids when they get
30:24
Speaker 5: out of school. They need to have a program or
30:26
Speaker 5: by them to encourage them. Why not they go use drugs?
30:30
Speaker 5: Why not they go commit crimes? And we need to
30:33
Speaker 5: be programs because and we need people like the ones
30:36
Speaker 5: who are out there supposed to be the leaders and
30:39
Speaker 5: the brothers and the systems of being skid. We need
30:42
Speaker 5: him to be speaking to them about these types of
30:45
Speaker 5: vishes to help them not use drugs because they're listening
30:50
Speaker 5: to us before they hit to jail. Because when they
30:55
Speaker 5: get to tap, the jail system is not gonna do
30:57
Speaker 5: nothing to clasp about them as a society and they
31:01
Speaker 5: would not get up that they need Why because this
31:04
Speaker 5: is the most pre billion dollars Ampibo. So that's my
31:08
Speaker 5: opinion on that.
31:09
Speaker 2: Man.
31:09
Speaker 5: We need the community with these school when your teachers
31:12
Speaker 5: would need preachers. We need to community to get involved
31:16
Speaker 5: with these kids and have these kids some programs after
31:19
Speaker 5: school during school to teach them about the importance of
31:24
Speaker 5: not even joys and stuff.
31:25
Speaker 2: Man.
31:26
Speaker 6: And you know what, as when I was growing up,
31:29
Speaker 6: we did have like some they did have like summer
31:32
Speaker 6: programs for for the youth.
31:36
Speaker 2: To like summer jobs. You know, we always had something
31:41
Speaker 2: to do, was playing sports.
31:43
Speaker 6: We was in the sports and we was doing a
31:46
Speaker 6: lot during the summer and at school. You know, we played,
31:50
Speaker 6: We was in the sports at school. And now I
31:54
Speaker 6: just I don't see that that much.
31:57
Speaker 8: And you know, I don't morning cut programs out because
32:05
Speaker 8: when we were coming up, we we did have those programs.
32:08
Speaker 8: We had the jt PA program program that that that
32:11
Speaker 8: provided youth jobs during the summertime. If you were if
32:15
Speaker 8: you pass your test scores and you were working on
32:18
Speaker 8: your on your grade level or whatever, you were able
32:22
Speaker 8: to work a job. If you didn't, you were able
32:24
Speaker 8: to go to school and they paid you to go
32:27
Speaker 8: to school to take those classes during the summertime.
32:31
Speaker 2: And and and they've got playdays. Because the government is
32:34
Speaker 2: cutting out of the funding.
32:36
Speaker 8: We used to have programs after school schools used to
32:39
Speaker 8: have after school program because I was.
32:41
Speaker 2: At all these after school programs.
32:44
Speaker 8: I used to be an elementary tutor when I was
32:47
Speaker 8: in high school. We used to go and tutor the
32:48
Speaker 8: elementary school. They have cut funding. You you had schools
32:54
Speaker 8: that were able to even apartment complexes were able to
32:58
Speaker 8: provide after school programming. A lot of people have gotten
33:03
Speaker 8: away from doing these programmings, but there's HUD. HUD sons
33:09
Speaker 8: provide funding for these HUD subsidized complexes. If they if
33:16
Speaker 8: you live in a HUG, a HUD subsidized complex, they
33:20
Speaker 8: get money to provide activities not just for the children,
33:25
Speaker 8: but provide activities for the parent as well. They're to
33:28
Speaker 8: provide living skills, job skills, all these types of things
33:34
Speaker 8: if you lived in they HUG subsidize. Don't just take
33:37
Speaker 8: my word, go do the research. I did the research.
33:40
Speaker 8: I had to learn our stuff because I was working
33:44
Speaker 8: for a nonprofit organization and we was able to get
33:47
Speaker 8: some of that HUD funded and go into one of
33:49
Speaker 8: those HUD units up there in Greenville, South Carolina. And
33:54
Speaker 8: that's what we started our very first after school program.
33:58
Speaker 8: And nothing, Nobody told me some and then I did
34:00
Speaker 8: for myself to this organization, so I know it's out there.
34:04
Speaker 8: But because a lot of us don't know, and a
34:07
Speaker 8: lot of us live in these sub subsidized complexes and
34:12
Speaker 8: and don't even know that these resources are available. Why
34:15
Speaker 8: because they don't tell you and and and they operate
34:19
Speaker 8: on this. If you don't know, you won't know. So
34:22
Speaker 8: if you're not being active in your community, you gotta
34:26
Speaker 8: go to your your your county council meetings. You got
34:28
Speaker 8: to go to these town how meetings. You got to
34:31
Speaker 8: know what's going on in your city when these people
34:34
Speaker 8: are coming in and bringing these new businesses.
34:36
Speaker 2: You need to know what new businesses are coming in
34:38
Speaker 2: and how they're gonna community. You need to know how
34:42
Speaker 2: all that You've got to be.
34:44
Speaker 4: We don't.
34:46
Speaker 2: So we don't know.
34:49
Speaker 6: Well, I'm gonna give corn he trying to jump in,
34:52
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Cornell.
34:53
Speaker 5: Okay, right now for our community, anybody who's will to
35:01
Speaker 5: listen to what we're saying tonight. Tonight, it's very important
35:04
Speaker 5: topic because of our communities. And with that being said,
35:08
Speaker 5: now we should push any discussions about our community around
35:12
Speaker 5: the United States. For the government to make sure that
35:15
Speaker 5: they implement these types of programs. Good kids in schools,
35:19
Speaker 5: to implement these types of programs for the kids to
35:22
Speaker 5: learn about the press of blood, not the rigular crimes,
35:25
Speaker 5: and be able to have these kids to understand why
35:28
Speaker 5: it's important to learn about who they are and what
35:31
Speaker 5: they have paper will have doing as opposed to getting
35:33
Speaker 5: in crime, during crime and come to prison because they
35:37
Speaker 5: don't have no lot of turn now. And if we
35:39
Speaker 5: don't give them that opportunity around, they'll never learn that.
35:42
Speaker 5: That's what my opinion is.
35:44
Speaker 6: That that's so true. And you know what, another thing,
35:48
Speaker 6: I'm gonna call back, Okay, I'll be oneting for you.
35:52
Speaker 2: Another thing I don't get. I won't play the lottery,
35:58
Speaker 2: but I do play it sometimes and I do ice practice. Sometimes.
36:02
Speaker 2: They say the money is supposed to be going to
36:05
Speaker 2: the schools. I don't see it. I don't see.
36:12
Speaker 8: Well, it's not that it's going to It funds. Most
36:16
Speaker 8: of what it funds is the pale Grant, the grants
36:21
Speaker 8: that the kids get every year. I know in in
36:25
Speaker 8: in South Carolina and Georgia, it funds the Palil grants,
36:29
Speaker 8: so our kids are eligible.
36:31
Speaker 2: For for the Palil grant.
36:33
Speaker 6: Now.
36:33
Speaker 2: I don't know how much more they give to the schools,
36:38
Speaker 2: but you know they.
36:41
Speaker 8: More of the money go you can you can say
36:43
Speaker 8: more of the money goes to private sectors than to
36:46
Speaker 8: the public schools, as which they should go. But yeah,
36:50
Speaker 8: it's supposedly it's helping to fund the the the lottery
36:56
Speaker 8: scholarships and the lottery grants that they have the because
37:00
Speaker 8: they do have them as options.
37:02
Speaker 2: I do know that. That is one of the.
37:08
Speaker 6: Reason why I said I don't see it because when
37:11
Speaker 6: I was in school, when we was in elementary and stuff,
37:15
Speaker 6: not once did our teachers have to send home a
37:19
Speaker 6: letter and say that your child needs this. You know,
37:24
Speaker 6: all the teachers is coming out of their pockets putting things,
37:28
Speaker 6: crayons and piscols and stuff in their classroom.
37:32
Speaker 2: We got to school, all of that was there. It's
37:37
Speaker 2: not there. It's not my grandsons. When they cut funding.
37:49
Speaker 8: When they start cutting funding and start doing all that
37:52
Speaker 8: and putting all these stipulations on stuff, then they started
37:55
Speaker 8: taking out and they said they but they gonna put
37:57
Speaker 8: the burden on the parents.
37:58
Speaker 2: They're gonna put a lot of the burden on the
38:00
Speaker 2: parents when prices start going up.
38:02
Speaker 8: When prices start going up and they not increasing your salary,
38:06
Speaker 8: then guess what they're gonna put the They gonna put
38:08
Speaker 8: the butt back on the parents. So then it falls
38:11
Speaker 8: on us because guess what price is increasing all around us?
38:15
Speaker 8: Rent going up, everything in the stove is going up,
38:19
Speaker 8: but they're not going up on our wages. And that's
38:22
Speaker 8: what's happening, and and and and these people have figured
38:26
Speaker 8: that out, and they say they don't want to be
38:27
Speaker 8: responsible for this stuff, so then hey, they could they
38:30
Speaker 8: take it out the budget. Now the teachers got to
38:33
Speaker 8: be responsible for that. The teachers can't be responsible for
38:35
Speaker 8: then they put the burden on the parents.
38:38
Speaker 2: That's what they do.
38:39
Speaker 6: And they already know if they're not gonna provide these resources,
38:45
Speaker 6: if they're not gonna provide them, then they're not gonna
38:47
Speaker 6: have them.
38:47
Speaker 8: They know that, they know that, and they already know
38:51
Speaker 8: which schools are gonna suffer. The Title five school, the
38:54
Speaker 8: tidle four school, the low income school, And who attend
38:58
Speaker 8: most of those schools are kids Tie to five schools
39:02
Speaker 8: are usually our kids. And that's just what they do
39:09
Speaker 8: all the programming. You look at a lot of these places.
39:12
Speaker 8: They don't want the different funds. We have schools that
39:17
Speaker 8: actually turn down the free lunch. So if your child
39:20
Speaker 8: go to that school, if you can't afford to pay
39:26
Speaker 8: for lunch and your child don't eat, if you're not
39:31
Speaker 8: gonna fix some lunch.
39:34
Speaker 2: But that is what's happened. And our kids shouldn't have
39:37
Speaker 2: to worry about.
39:38
Speaker 8: That because they already doomed because of these babies don't
39:42
Speaker 8: know how to read and write. By the time they
39:44
Speaker 8: in third grade, they done. They are done because they
39:48
Speaker 8: they're not teaching them. No, they're not teaching them past
39:50
Speaker 8: the third grade. So while we out here trying to
39:54
Speaker 8: figure out all this other stuff, these people just keep
39:56
Speaker 8: passing our kids along. And then you got a twelfth
39:59
Speaker 8: grade to get ready to walk and can't even sign
40:01
Speaker 8: his name, don't even know how to write a check,
40:04
Speaker 8: don't even know half of the stuff.
40:06
Speaker 2: That they don't even they don't even know. They don't
40:10
Speaker 2: they're not writing curses they be. They just know it's
40:15
Speaker 2: just not a print.
40:16
Speaker 5: That's all they do is print.
40:19
Speaker 2: Ahead for that.
40:21
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm here in the prison system, man, and I've
40:24
Speaker 5: been that for a long time.
40:25
Speaker 2: Man.
40:25
Speaker 5: And uh, I have paid closer attention to a lot
40:28
Speaker 5: of these individuals that the prison systems.
40:31
Speaker 7: For the most part.
40:32
Speaker 5: Man, these kids in this generation are very very smart, man. Yes,
40:36
Speaker 5: Like these kids write farms, these books got these kids
40:40
Speaker 5: got drawing with uhuh expertise. These kids can draw you
40:44
Speaker 5: looking at yourself in a mirror. Man, Let's see looking
40:48
Speaker 5: at yourself in a mirror. If they can draw you
40:51
Speaker 5: identically looking at yourself in the miryrand that's talent.
40:54
Speaker 2: Man.
40:55
Speaker 5: So for the most part, a lot of these kids
40:58
Speaker 5: a lot of talent in the and theseus your kids
41:01
Speaker 5: can come from society. So I know if these kids
41:04
Speaker 5: have the type of talent because believe I'm not the
41:08
Speaker 5: books of the poem books that business tends to be writing.
41:12
Speaker 5: I'll be showing them to these kids. And I'll be
41:14
Speaker 5: turning to these kids to beat to do stuff like
41:16
Speaker 5: this because I asked them, sid, what do you do
41:18
Speaker 5: you write book? When you write yourself? And when they
41:21
Speaker 5: told me they do this, I knew right then and
41:23
Speaker 5: there were very small I showed them the books and
41:27
Speaker 5: so they're asking me how to get involved. That type
41:29
Speaker 5: of a point to you is this, we can teach
41:32
Speaker 5: these kids how to do that if we get involved
41:35
Speaker 5: in their lives and keep them away from drugs. Man,
41:39
Speaker 5: it's the community has to play me a part.
41:41
Speaker 2: Of these these kids.
41:43
Speaker 5: The churches don't just have church on time, have church
41:47
Speaker 5: every day in the community with the kids.
41:52
Speaker 2: That's just the way it.
41:53
Speaker 5: Has to be, man, because right now we have a
41:55
Speaker 5: very very bent considers problem. We throw them up further
41:58
Speaker 5: systems in the other side. Anybody listening to this, we
42:04
Speaker 5: hope for the kid that you relisten very carefully and
42:07
Speaker 5: get it involved into your coming to teach and stop
42:09
Speaker 5: the little kids and the older kids and those that
42:12
Speaker 5: you do to stop you the doug and the big
42:15
Speaker 5: to do better what they like. So with that being said, ma'am,
42:19
Speaker 5: I would like to, you know, get involved with the
42:23
Speaker 5: discussions about mister James. Look, okayver y'all have a chance.
42:27
Speaker 6: Okay, let's go ahead and shift gears, because let's talk
42:32
Speaker 6: about the look.
42:34
Speaker 2: Everyone know we had at mister legate On I believe.
42:38
Speaker 6: Was it three times Cornell, Yes, ma'am And we just
42:44
Speaker 6: been just just going over his case and trying to
42:49
Speaker 6: figure this out, and we believe we don't figure it out.
42:54
Speaker 2: Go ahead for him, Okay, thank you very much, ma'am.
43:00
Speaker 5: Had the officer got ready and know it has to
43:02
Speaker 5: said that mister jamesler gates here, mister Edgar said, which
43:05
Speaker 5: is a business offer called the Dingo Teams. And according
43:08
Speaker 5: to the fact of the circumstances of leading to that,
43:11
Speaker 5: mister dans La Kate had what to the boss. You
43:14
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying that mister ed and Eddie Garty
43:16
Speaker 5: had on and while he was sitting there, he was
43:19
Speaker 5: very intoxicated. While he was waiting for an individuals there,
43:22
Speaker 5: mister h Guard called mister Legate to the office. The
43:26
Speaker 5: miner said, there wasn't too many people in the prop
43:30
Speaker 5: me the guard sent up and maybe want to when
43:32
Speaker 5: the business. So when mister Legate went to the office
43:35
Speaker 5: of mister Eddiegard said with his suitcase, hmm. When he
43:40
Speaker 5: went to shake mister Gates, guards their saying and had
43:43
Speaker 5: him a business guard. Somebody came behind mister Legate to shoot,
43:47
Speaker 5: mister Guard said, and when that happened, mister Guard the
43:51
Speaker 5: jumped up, put the table over mister the Gate ran
43:54
Speaker 5: out of the building. And when he did that, the
43:57
Speaker 5: person that was shooting at mister Garston shout him five primes,
44:01
Speaker 5: shot at him five primes and ran out the gates
44:04
Speaker 5: off the door and missed gaun here chased him out.
44:08
Speaker 5: But the windings to the thing if they saw mister
44:10
Speaker 5: lay run out of the front door down the street
44:13
Speaker 5: with no suitcase and they saw a man everybody it
44:17
Speaker 5: chased come miss Gaudis who happened to collapse us. So
44:22
Speaker 5: we're trying to figure out how would be locked impossible
44:26
Speaker 5: that listen to the kid who ran down the street.
44:28
Speaker 5: You don't know, have no Gunpillo run the building. It's over.
44:30
Speaker 5: We're gonna have no gunfither and rather do all their
44:32
Speaker 5: fu We ended up here to choose the cause of
44:35
Speaker 5: the depth because God said, now the luggage, the suitcase
44:41
Speaker 5: that was found in the office, the paper were in
44:43
Speaker 5: up on the floor, and mister got his office and
44:48
Speaker 5: the suitcase and the murder will end up behind the
44:51
Speaker 5: buildings next to the daven aparts. So my question is
44:56
Speaker 5: how to hit the suitcase and the mother weren't get
44:58
Speaker 5: down the o to break with mister leaven This is
45:03
Speaker 5: the game. Has been a few of the positive desert
45:05
Speaker 5: man for some type of hicks. But mister could not
45:10
Speaker 5: mean the clock carry.
45:11
Speaker 2: Un hit man.
45:13
Speaker 5: He was intoxicated on this day. And because he was
45:16
Speaker 5: intoxicated on this day, somebody is seriously accuse this man
45:21
Speaker 5: saw them just up mister Eddy guards there. The bartender
45:25
Speaker 5: is the person that I'm caixes to meet Roy because
45:29
Speaker 5: if the suitcase is left in the office, who had
45:33
Speaker 5: access to that suitcase? The bar tender? If the bartenders
45:37
Speaker 5: saying she only saw mister lecgab went out of the office.
45:40
Speaker 5: Why she didn't say that about the second individual on earth.
45:44
Speaker 5: There's a back door. So if there's a back door,
45:48
Speaker 5: then it's the post hey to the back door. Why
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Speaker 5: they did not go back out of the back door,
45:53
Speaker 5: that's our question exactly what the so what's that being said,
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Speaker 5: ma'am mister James. The data is the man who has
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Speaker 5: been compigured for a political crime of aenough for time
46:05
Speaker 5: is the fact that a congressman, mister Booster Marte the
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Speaker 5: operation of mister Eddie Gartill, and not only that, mister
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Speaker 5: Eddie guard said is a big businessman who was in
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Speaker 5: the princess of time to buy the Senate in front
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Speaker 5: of your life, which is now the Senate telling your
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Speaker 5: express news. And with that being here, he had his
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Speaker 5: hands and other process. But they used somebody to say
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Speaker 5: that listen to the gate was given a weapon from
46:35
Speaker 5: a guy named mister her that day is mister Floyd
46:39
Speaker 5: her Man that said he gave mister Legator whistling and
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Speaker 5: that and he overheard missus Waulan tell listen they gave
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Speaker 5: him that he needed to mister Morland as opponent of
46:48
Speaker 5: mister Eddie Gardi, who was supposed to be hading Deliffer
46:54
Speaker 5: and giving out free drinks to people that called mister
46:57
Speaker 5: Eddiegard said to lose work. But the ads said that
47:00
Speaker 5: he was gonna file home and entire operations and get
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Speaker 5: some more people. So now that made him a target.
47:07
Speaker 5: So before he hit the meeting, he ended up there.
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Speaker 5: Mister Lea has been accused of this firm, and we
47:13
Speaker 5: have come from to find out that this man did
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Speaker 5: not commits his firm. So my question is why the
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Speaker 5: attorney offer detectives, allow for the evidence to go and
47:24
Speaker 5: listen lister James Legates and allow him to be the
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Speaker 5: biggest farm. Get That's my question.
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Speaker 6: Uh. I wanted to say this because I've been I've
47:38
Speaker 6: been doing a lot of reading on mister Legates. Everything
47:42
Speaker 6: is public records. You can google his name and everything,
47:44
Speaker 6: the bing king and everything that Cornell did stated. All
47:48
Speaker 6: of that is in black and white and in the
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Speaker 6: newspapers and stuff, and it tells you the senator's name
47:57
Speaker 6: Usta Monte Cruise, and it was a couple of more
48:02
Speaker 6: big kidders that was in this. And then you have
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Speaker 6: people that was close to mister Garcia that says that.
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Speaker 2: The Gate was not.
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Speaker 6: The hitman, but they not get You know, people ain't
48:17
Speaker 6: gonna say anything, but they just gonna let him take it.
48:21
Speaker 6: So they actually know who did it. So they just
48:24
Speaker 6: using mister Legate as a scapegoat. And also things is
48:28
Speaker 6: coming up in the in the newspaper saying that at
48:34
Speaker 6: the why mister leg Gate was in the bar, that
48:38
Speaker 6: he was on the phone, that he was on the
48:40
Speaker 6: cordless phone.
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Speaker 2: So okay, who is he talking to? Why he was
48:46
Speaker 2: in there on the phone.
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Speaker 6: Did the police go back and run to get the
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Speaker 6: order of the telephone records when mister Garcia was on
48:55
Speaker 6: his phone.
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Speaker 2: Who was he talking to?
48:57
Speaker 6: Did the police go and requests the telephone records to
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Speaker 6: see who he was talking to?
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Speaker 2: Ain't nothing, ain't none of that evidence.
49:07
Speaker 6: Ain't none of that brought to like we mister Legate
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Speaker 6: never once when he was on here, said that he
49:14
Speaker 6: was sitting in there.
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Speaker 4: On a.
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Speaker 2: On a on a phone.
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Speaker 6: Other women said that when they seen mister Legate run
49:22
Speaker 6: run out of out of the office, that he was terrified.
49:27
Speaker 6: He had this look on his face. It's all in
49:30
Speaker 6: black and white. Now, if you're a hit man, are
49:33
Speaker 6: you gonna take your car, work your car in front
49:37
Speaker 6: of the establishment, Where you gonna do this here at
49:40
Speaker 6: Are you gonna be sitting there bragging, talking about what
49:44
Speaker 6: you're gonna do and all of this stuff, or and
49:48
Speaker 6: then once it's done, are you gonna run past your car?
49:53
Speaker 2: That's you know, that's that not It doesn't add up.
49:58
Speaker 6: And then also when they checked mister Legate's bank account, he.
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Speaker 2: Only had a couple of one hundred dollars in his
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Speaker 2: bank account.
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Speaker 6: And everybody that's close to mister Garcia, if you go
50:12
Speaker 6: watch the documentary, don't just take our words.
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Speaker 2: Go watch the documentary. Go look at the.
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Speaker 6: The clip, the the what the news media had posted
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Speaker 6: back then. Then guess what call go for now?
50:32
Speaker 2: We didn't tell you this. We was reading an article and.
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Speaker 6: It was someone It was a camera across the sleet
50:43
Speaker 6: street at the gas station that caught the whole thing
50:48
Speaker 6: on tape. They had it on tape. Tell me, why
50:52
Speaker 6: didn't the police department go get the tape?
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Speaker 5: Okay, they did.
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Speaker 4: I sent you.
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Speaker 5: I sent you that.
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Speaker 2: I spent it to you. I don't know if you
51:01
Speaker 2: got it yet, but it's in that article that I
51:04
Speaker 2: sent you.
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Speaker 6: They didn't even get to take that right there, wouldn't
51:09
Speaker 6: got to take they would have seen.
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Speaker 2: The whole thing, but they needed James Gate.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so what you have justified, man, is we called
51:20
Speaker 5: that some time of naked investigations. Okay, they want state
51:24
Speaker 5: here the assistant listening to eddiegar which is a big
51:27
Speaker 5: old team who has just handled some of anything, and
51:32
Speaker 5: Satan and Tonio and mental Legate was being identified as
51:35
Speaker 5: the person who called the death of this individual. We
51:39
Speaker 5: in fact know that he did not need to hit man.
51:42
Speaker 5: The point now is that if we have a camera
51:46
Speaker 5: review across the street that has captured the whole entire scene.
51:52
Speaker 5: Now the media, all the persons who are joined the
51:55
Speaker 5: documentary should have made a request that inporation exact and
51:59
Speaker 5: all the o that mister James Legee is an innocent
52:03
Speaker 5: me and that somebody was seen coming out of that office.
52:08
Speaker 5: Gotta sister Legatum was arrested it and after anything taking place, ma'am.
52:15
Speaker 5: And to the suitcase down the street with a weapon
52:20
Speaker 5: that is being classified, I had a dumb murder weapon.
52:24
Speaker 5: So that's gonna add up to be number one. While
52:26
Speaker 5: because Walter murderer leaves the murdey weapon where it can
52:30
Speaker 5: be taken around the corner and placed next to the suitcase, exact,
52:34
Speaker 5: can't do that, that's gonna add up number one because
52:38
Speaker 5: the murderer would run out of that building with the
52:41
Speaker 5: murder weapon, with the gloves on that hand and with
52:44
Speaker 5: the suitcase. If I do that on the throw the
52:46
Speaker 5: gloves on the ground, the suitcase on the ground, and
52:49
Speaker 5: the gun on the ground. So when they find anything,
52:52
Speaker 5: they're gonna find it right there on the ground. Nobody
52:55
Speaker 5: has mentioned anything about a pair of gloves.
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Speaker 8: So mine to.
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Speaker 5: Mister Dames Bligate tested as the negative forty five minutes
53:06
Speaker 5: after the crime negative for girl Polon reverdent were go
53:09
Speaker 5: on his hand and his brother. The working was five
53:13
Speaker 5: five times, which would mean that there's a large amount
53:16
Speaker 5: of Jim power residue begin the pict Who fo that
53:20
Speaker 5: WI is because there's none O. Mister James Blagate to
53:25
Speaker 5: Dames locate as an inert man and has been wronged
53:28
Speaker 5: to conviction for a crime but murder that he did
53:30
Speaker 5: not commit. So how do we take mister James legate case?
53:34
Speaker 5: Did you buy the Digital's office? Well, if you're listening
53:39
Speaker 5: to this fine cast night Man and anyone that's out
53:41
Speaker 5: there listening to it, will actually you to serve for
53:45
Speaker 5: a significati petition to EXCU for the review of the
53:49
Speaker 5: case of mister James blagation Justice afligate to reopen his
53:54
Speaker 5: case up for further investigation, and that all of the
53:57
Speaker 5: evidence in the state that can put put a pencil
54:00
Speaker 5: before that. That's what that's what the situation.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, because we got eight minutes and we're gonna
54:11
Speaker 6: wrap it up. Los Angeles undropped off the spring. But
54:16
Speaker 6: you know, you guys, uh, I just wish that you
54:19
Speaker 6: would go look at the evidence that the that they
54:28
Speaker 6: tried to use against mister Legate. There's no evidence there.
54:33
Speaker 6: You know, just by us reading and doing our research
54:37
Speaker 6: and stuff, we see things. What the officers were the
54:42
Speaker 6: police they had their investigators missed.
54:46
Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 6: Number one of the biggest thing that I when I
54:51
Speaker 6: read that, I was shocked that it was a video
54:56
Speaker 6: from across the street. The lady said it was a
54:59
Speaker 6: c video in a video called everything. And the investigators
55:05
Speaker 6: did not did not request a copy of that tape
55:12
Speaker 6: or because mister James Legate had a print a copy
55:19
Speaker 6: of his ID.
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Speaker 2: That it was on the ground left in mister Garcia's office.
55:26
Speaker 6: All they had to do was go pull the tape
55:30
Speaker 6: and they would have they would have seen what happened.
55:32
Speaker 6: We don't know if the tape is still available. It
55:36
Speaker 6: been over twenty some years. Of course it may not
55:38
Speaker 6: be probably been taped over. You know, they probably didn't
55:42
Speaker 6: deserve the tape for a time like this, And now
55:46
Speaker 6: we have an innocent man that did twenty five years
55:51
Speaker 6: plus for something that he didn't do.
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Speaker 2: In your time.
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Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna just keep pep. I'm telling you guys,
56:01
Speaker 6: please go watch the documentary. Listen to what the investigators
56:05
Speaker 6: are saying in the documentary. It's a lot of people
56:10
Speaker 6: that believe that James Legate is the innocent man sitting
56:16
Speaker 6: in prison, just like my husband Anne Johnson, fifteen years
56:24
Speaker 6: innocent of what they accused him to do, did what
56:29
Speaker 6: he did, and they won't even give him an evidence herence.
56:34
Speaker 6: But they gave another guy that killed three people and
56:39
Speaker 6: they had evidence against him. They got how he got
56:44
Speaker 6: back in court court this year. He killed three people.
56:49
Speaker 6: They gave him three life sentences. They said he had
56:54
Speaker 6: jury misconduct. That's how they got him back in court.
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Speaker 2: He took a deal.
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Speaker 6: The DA came to him because they didn't want to
57:06
Speaker 6: go back through the courts to have another trial. They
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Speaker 6: offered him a deal for forty two years for three people,
57:17
Speaker 6: and he they had all the evidence, but he got
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Speaker 6: forty two forty two years and they gave him seven years.
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Speaker 2: Time, Sir, he got a date. But all the other
57:35
Speaker 2: men's in Denver, in Colorado are still fighting. That's not fair.
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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, Well, can I say something on mister Walling's
57:44
Speaker 5: sa maw yes, okay, right now, I'm pill okay, just
57:48
Speaker 5: like mister Wace and what not. Just recently, God follow
57:52
Speaker 5: multiple tradition loaders, and the traditional loaders based upon lack
57:57
Speaker 5: of subject matter of their addiction of the indictment and
58:00
Speaker 5: a lack of setic matter of addiction means that the
58:03
Speaker 5: conviction isvorced. Now this most has reopened the hole entire
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Speaker 5: paste right now. So with mister Vaughan, mister mister mster
58:11
Speaker 5: Vaughn Johnson man, I would love to encourage him to
58:15
Speaker 5: be able to think about putting emotions a petition notice
58:19
Speaker 5: to the Service Act immediately needs based upon lack of
58:22
Speaker 5: stic matter juudiction based on the evidence that was presented
58:26
Speaker 5: to the grand jury to indut him. And I would
58:29
Speaker 5: love to be able to send him a copy I
58:32
Speaker 5: said to it to see how it is designed and
58:35
Speaker 5: how it reopens the case because in the emotional acting
58:39
Speaker 5: for an evidential are hearing man, and this potion is
58:43
Speaker 5: directed to the Dust, not the Court of Upfields, not
58:46
Speaker 5: the quart of Colma Fielding, but to the Dust who
58:49
Speaker 5: has the pour over indictment to address and evidence the
58:53
Speaker 5: area given to allow mister farn to be able to
58:57
Speaker 5: develop a record on the evidence that was pre editor
59:00
Speaker 5: to the Grand Jersey, because as you know, we know
59:05
Speaker 5: that there's no underlying.
59:06
Speaker 2: Offer to support capital exact exactly.
59:10
Speaker 5: So with that being said, mister Flawn have enough information
59:14
Speaker 5: right there to go back to emotion the judicitional notice.
59:18
Speaker 5: But immediately a lot of stuffect manage, and this is
59:23
Speaker 5: to the court and the genery will have to have
59:26
Speaker 5: res agnost because if he tries to not, we can
59:30
Speaker 5: appeal that decision and reopen the whole case for that decision.
59:35
Speaker 5: So that's my take on that, ma'am, and I want
59:37
Speaker 5: to be in communication with you about that further after
59:41
Speaker 5: the show man.
59:42
Speaker 6: Okay, and so we got three minutes, so let's go
59:45
Speaker 6: ahead and do our closing remarks.
59:47
Speaker 2: Go ahead, uh co hosts Okay.
59:50
Speaker 5: Based upon the issues that we raised about mister Dinas
59:53
Speaker 5: brost case. Okay, we hope to pray that somebody would
59:58
Speaker 5: try to make some pipe of an while to rest
1:00:02
Speaker 5: Washington's help and what case to be going on and
1:00:05
Speaker 5: the judicial system where the state being denied on an
1:00:08
Speaker 5: impossible date. He's so much twenty fourths in the box
1:00:12
Speaker 5: the day was reading the all court houses in the
1:00:14
Speaker 5: United States are closed, but in this particular case they
1:00:18
Speaker 5: entered the decisions of firm and his competitions so fast
1:00:22
Speaker 5: number one with his stakes as far as the drug
1:00:24
Speaker 5: epidemic and our systems of corrections in our society, we
1:00:28
Speaker 5: are acting for petitions to be made to our governors,
1:00:31
Speaker 5: to our city officials to becot programs to help kids
1:00:35
Speaker 5: understand the importance of that these and drugs in the day,
1:00:41
Speaker 5: I would love off for the community of someone to
1:00:43
Speaker 5: come together and for message Adgate here to reopen the
1:00:49
Speaker 5: case of because he's a council man who has their
1:00:53
Speaker 5: politically competed for a crime he did not commit.
1:00:56
Speaker 2: Thank you man, you're welcome.
1:01:00
Speaker 6: Well that's another another episode down written down in the books.
1:01:06
Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much for joining in with me
1:01:10
Speaker 6: again on this evening. We will be back on I
1:01:14
Speaker 6: believe Friday, we have a bonus show, and we do
1:01:17
Speaker 6: have a guest that's going to be joining me and
1:01:21
Speaker 6: Cornell on this Friday.
1:01:25
Speaker 2: I hope you guys enjoy your.
1:01:27
Speaker 6: Labor day, that you guys is resting, because tomorrow, you know,
1:01:30
Speaker 6: we got to hit it back out there in the workforce.
1:01:33
Speaker 6: You guys, remember to use your voice when it even
1:01:43
Speaker 6: though it seems shaky, you have a right to use
1:01:47
Speaker 6: your voice and make it powerful. Drink your water and
1:01:51
Speaker 6: stay y'all.
1:01:52
Speaker 2: Lane. If you don't have nothing good to say, love
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Speaker 2: you and I'll see you again. Link wild get to
1:01:59
Speaker 2: the murder. Except he was in the building and he ran.
1:02:03
Speaker 2: He didn't have gunpotter residue on his hands, No fingerprints
1:02:06
Speaker 2: were found. There is no motive.
1:02:13
Speaker 9: When we had the detective on the stand, Detective Albright,
1:02:16
Speaker 9: I asked him about forensics, specifically, was there blood on
1:02:20
Speaker 9: James Legate's clothes and he said no, there was not.
1:02:23
Speaker 9: I then asked him about gunpotter residue and he said
1:02:26
Speaker 9: there was no gunpowder residue. James Legate tested within hours clean,
1:02:32
Speaker 9: nothing on his hands, nothing on his clothes. I asked
1:02:36
Speaker 9: him about fingerprints. He said there was no fingerprints. I said,
1:02:39
Speaker 9: so in general, there's no forensic connecting my client to
1:02:42
Speaker 9: this case.
1:02:43
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
1:02:44
Speaker 4: He said, that's correct.
1:02:48
Speaker 6: Well, I think it was the evidence that was found
1:02:51
Speaker 6: at the scene pointed us immediately to