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RJ, so we got to see this show two years ago and you were not the biggest fan.
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But you had obviously seen the show before,
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being an usher, being a theater lover.
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How far back does Mamma Mia go for you?
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And when did you decide that maybe it wasn't the show for you leading
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up to this production of it?
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Shockingly, I don't think that I saw it too much before.
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I'm not even sure if it was touring when I was ushering,
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or if it was I
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Really?
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was so disinterested that I did not even sit in on it.
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But really, yeah.
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You were like, not for me.
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Yeah. Which is shocking because as we'll dive into,
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like I actually very much love the music.
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So...
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But yeah, so really like the thing that comes to mind is when we saw it
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a few years back, that was really my,
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aside from of course the films,
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which I also love, that is pretty much it in regards to exposure.
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Yeah, I say I have to say I think I'm pretty much at the same boats where
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I have seen the movie and who doesn't love Meryl Streep and ~ Amanda Seyfried.
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I love those films. But I hadn't seen a live until we went two years
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ago and I actually saw it twice that time because I saw it with you when
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we started ~ doing the writing for this.
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hadn't started the podcast yet.
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We hadn't fully developed the idea.
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You were just tagging along and I said,
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let's go to Mamma Mia. And you said,
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Okay, like you went but but like it was like I Was dragging you a little
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bit I was like go to Mamma Mia with me because somebody has to go see this show
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~ and all I can really remember from that production of it is the fact that
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we got stuck inside the theater because they wouldn't let us out because
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of the ~ Encore that was like ten minutes long and everyone was trying
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to leave because the stage was too like the
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The battles were taking too long and then there was like a break and then they
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did it. Do you remember how long it took and we were like standing in
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the aisle way trying to get out and we're like,
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what the hell's going on?
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Now that you mention it, yes, I forgot about that.
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~ But it totally makes sense because obviously they've improved that since,
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I mean, that could have just literally been that evening.
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~ But there is like a little bit,
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which I don't know why, because I don't think there's any costume changes right
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away, but I could be wrong. ~
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But interesting. I do remember
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But there is, there's like a, there was like a long pause.
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we like, yeah, we got up, we were literally like up,
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like in the aisle and then like turned around.
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We were good. Like we were already like halfway out the door,
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I feel like. Which is very
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Correct. And then they started.
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like I well, and that alone tells me that I haven't seen it before because I
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will always stay for encores even if it's not my favorite thing like
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I just know typically to stay ~
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so interesting I totally I blocked that out apparently
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Well, I think that that goes to show you that you're trying to block
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out a whole experience because when we are going into this Mamma Mia,
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I not, I'm not going to throw you under the bus too much,
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but I do think it's interesting that when we first announced it,
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you were like, I'm going to be out of town,
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which is totally valid. And then all of a you're like,
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wait, I'm not going to be out of town.
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I guess I can go, but you were never like excited to go see Mamma Mia again.
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It was one of those ones you're like,
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Yes, I'll go. We hadn't recorded a podcast.
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My family would probably like to go.
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It was like very much like every reason to find like,
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find a reason to go like you were pushing yourself to go.
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~ but you were not enthused to see this,
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which I think really sets the tone for like how we went into Mamma Mia
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and how maybe this one was the best production we've seen of this show so far.
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Yeah, I mean, I'll just call myself out.
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Like, absolutely did not want to see the show.
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Nothing in me wanted to see it based on...
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And I knew that it wasn't fair 100 % to the production because I also recall
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the reason that I was so turned off last time was the audience around us.
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I was so
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correct.
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agitated and just, like, distracted that I was like,
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I don't want to sit in an ABBA concert.
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That's not what I came here to do.
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That's not what I want to go do.
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And I was afraid that that is exactly what I would be walking into again.
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So...
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Yes, I will agree that I, last time we saw it,
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first off, I thought you said avocado concert.
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And I was like, it took me a long time to be like,
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~ he's talking about ABBA here.
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~ But yes, no, were absolutely,
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just again, it's one of those shows that has been around for 25 years.
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Everybody knows ABBA. Everybody loves ABBA.
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ABBA is for old people and for gays.
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there's like, it ~ crosses a wide span of things.
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But I feel like we frequently talk about some shows that just bring
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in a certain type of crowd. And this is not me being
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an elitist theatrical person,
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but maybe just a little bit, where it's just like.
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you go there and people think that they can sing the songs.
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They think it's a concert. think it's,
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it's, but this is still a show.
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This is still a show that has a story.
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This is still a show that has characters and bits and actors up there giving their
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all. And so I do think that when you look at the environment we were in last time,
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comparatively to maybe this time,
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though we could talk a little bit about that later,
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it did feel like there was maybe a different type of people that
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we were surrounded by this time.
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with maybe a few exceptions. Like it felt more like
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Yeah.
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a traditional theater experience.
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Yeah, and I think that is due to,
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you know, when we saw it last time it was the 25th anniversary,
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right? If I'm
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Yes.
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remembering that right. And so I think that drew out people who maybe
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are more so used to a concert setting.
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Whereas this was just like an add-on production.
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And so it...
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It seemed that there were more theater goers and less concert goers,
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which there's a lot of gray there because arguably they could be the same.
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yeah, ~ I don't know.
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Just the dynamic felt different even just walking in.
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I do think part of it too, boils down to maybe people got out of their systems with
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the first one. But I think that a lot of people who loved the movie went
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to see this and it's not exactly the movie.
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You still have a lot of that same beats,
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but there's a lot more songs. There's different songs.
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They're in different orders. They're sung by different people.
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Like there's just, this one is exactly what
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a theater goer would expect. And I wonder if some people,
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for the movies would go in there and be like,
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~ they're not on a boat singing the song.
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know, like there's a lot of differences in that aspect.
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And so now we get to go into with this with this newer cast,
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we get to go into the show with a more theatrical group of people
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and a more theatrical lens, which did lend itself pretty well.
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the exception of that, again, there was a few people there that were comparing
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it to the movie at intermission.
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They were even pulling up the movie and listening to it and were comparing it and.
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This does have such a different entity,
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even if the themes themselves are kind of the same.
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Yeah, and you mentioned a couple differences.
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It actually reminds me of another show we recently saw,
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Sound of Music, ~ where, yeah,
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Yes.
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you have very common songs, themes,
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but the script is different. And some of that does have to do with,
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of course, like the fact that it is live on stage and you can't be in
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the middle of an ocean on stage.
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~ And also like the...
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who is delivering certain lines changed a little bit,
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again, because you're on one set.
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And so how...
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Donna is introduced to or reintroduced into the dads
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and how like those pieces are different,
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but they still get to the same point.
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Absolutely. And speaking of those thematic themes and points,
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there's quite a bit in here, RJ.
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Which one really, this time around,
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this time stepping into the Fisher Theater to see the show,
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what theme really stood out to you the most?
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So we have like friendship, have love,
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we have identity. I think it's interesting that there's all these different pieces
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and that depending on what part of your life you're in,
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you're probably connecting with a different part of it.
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Like, can't you offer
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Yeah,
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love?
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honestly, I would say,
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well, what's interesting is like in the movies,
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I would have said like love, but for this show,
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even particularly, I would have said family,
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that the kind of tension bond between
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a mother and daughter dynamic was very real and very forward.
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Can I ask you, do you think that part of that changed seeing the show with your mom?
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Like, because your mom got to join us and she was sitting next to you.
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So you had a familial bond sitting there.
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Does that change that perspective?
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Because yeah, there is a really strong family component here.
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But I'm wondering if like that's influenced by seeing it with a mom.
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I'm sure. I'm sure. Right? Like when we think of this scene of slipping through
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my fingers and ~ especially being someone
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who transitioned, vividly remember sitting there watching this scene and thinking,
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about the fact that that is something that my mother would have envisioned
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me having or being a part of and now she won't.
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~ From a traditional lens of like the mother to daughter wedding prep
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~ scene and so I'm sure yeah and if one
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of and if any of our friends had joined us I probably would have seen
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it more through you know when we look at Rosie and Tanya and the other
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two friends like
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Yeah, think it definitely, whoever's experiencing,
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and that's the thing about theater too,
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whoever's experiencing it with you in that moment can absolutely change
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the trajectory of the things that you're focused in on.
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I am going to agree with that.
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And I think that what's interesting is that I also was picking up
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on the family aspect, but it wasn't the one that was standing out to me.
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And I'll get to what was standing out to me in a second.
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But I found myself reflecting on exactly what you said about you and your
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mom as I was sitting there, just being like those moments.
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But also I was thinking about my own mother and the fact of like,
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Donna's fiercely loyal to her daughter and like loves her and cares about her.
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And I think that
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You know, we both come from very strong families.
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come from families who are strong family units.
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And so the idea of like the, even when you're upset with each other,
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you are still there for each other.
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Even when you don't understand why somebody makes a decision,
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you're still there for them. And it kind of goes into the conversation of love,
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you know, and I think about comparatively the love between Donna and Sophie,
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and I compare it to that of Sophie and Skye
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where like Skye and Sophie have a very naive love.
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And there's also a lot of like,
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almost stipulations to their love.
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You know, he like gets mad at her when he's like,
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you didn't need to find your dads.
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Like, why does it matter if you found your dads?
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Like, is this why you wanted the wedding?
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I thought you loved me. Where Donna didn't appreciate having that sprung on her.
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She didn't love the fact that those three men were there.
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She didn't want Bill and Harry and Sam to mess everything up.
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But she also loved and understood Sophie.
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that it was something that Sophie needed to do.
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even it was like, they're like,
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yeah, I don't appreciate your decision,
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but I'm gonna back you anyway.
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So I think that's interesting,
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because I've never compared those two loves.
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Usually I compare Donna to Bill and Harry and Sam.
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~ But this time I had a different comparison of the love between Donna
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and Sophie comparatively to Sophie and Skye.
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Well, and yeah, and even to add to that then,
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kind of like a secondary thought is the love then from
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the dads to Sophie, having not had that 20 year span with her.
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Again, a parallel to my life.
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I was adopted by my mom as a single woman and then
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my dad proposed knowing that he would basically inherit a child,
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right? ~ And like that being the choice
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and it never being, it never feeling like
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I wasn't his. ~
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And so you kind of see that with these dads,
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like where they're like, we don't even know,
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right? We could do a blood test.
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We don't even care. Like, we're just happy to even be in the conversation.
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~ and then obviously the end happens and she technically has a stepdad,
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potentially real dad. but yeah,
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it's, it's so many crossovers happening.
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You know, as somebody who was half adopted,
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I also experienced that because like,
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you know, I did have a biological dad.
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did know of him in like a very,
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abstract kind of way.
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Like I knew of him. I went to school with cousins and years down the road,
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I found out that, you know, my,
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one of my biological brothers from him was one of my best friend's sister's best
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friends. Like there was.
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there was a world that we existed within each other.
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We went to parties together that we didn't even know each other.
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~ But like my dad, he, my dad who adopted me,
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he came in when my mom had three kids and it wasn't a question.
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Like, you know, he had, he did adopt the two of us.
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One of them wanted to take on her father's name.
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He was still in the picture. And so I did,
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get that. I had that a little bit as well.
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Just like there's a deep love for somebody who like couldn't or could
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not be your child, but it doesn't matter because like,
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What is a family? It doesn't always come down to blood.
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It comes down to the connections you make.
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~ Which I think leads me to the one that really stood out to me.
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And RJ, not to get sentimental,
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I'm sorry, I'm about to do this on camera with lots of people watching us.
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By lots of people, mean, you,
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because we haven't been sucking up all this whole time.
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thank you 17 people who watch our podcast religiously.
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~
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I think that the friendship really stood out to me this time.
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And I think that when I was reflecting on it,
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you know, I'm sitting at the show with somebody who before COVID wasn't in my life.
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And now you're like, you're in my life every single day,
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sometimes every hour of the day.
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And we've built this podcast. We built this website.
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We're doing all these cool things.
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We're going and traveling places and we're going to do things.
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And so.
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For the first time, really was drawn to,
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~ I shouldn't say the first time,
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but I should say I was really drawn to the relationship of Tanya and Rosie this time
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because I almost saw us in that relationship.
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I saw us being like the, that's what we're gonna be like when we're 40
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or 50 years old and like, you know,
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like where Tanya hadn't seen Donna in 10 years and it was like nothing
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had ever happened, you know, and that they were still kicking it off and they...
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We're still head inside jokes and they still loved and cared about each other
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so much. And so, ~ yeah.
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So that's my sentimental soap box for the day of like,
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was really drawn to that because I did see for the first time I'm almost
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in the age bracket of Donna. It's kind of sort of,
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and it kind of led to this feeling of experiencing that with,
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with you and what we're doing here.
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Yeah, I mean,
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I can understand that dynamic because...
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while we aren't rock stars. We weren't in
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yet, yet.
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a dynamo band at a young age.
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the similarity of building something,
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first of all, a lot of work,
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a lot of time, a lot of effort.
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And that naturally draws people together,
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But still kind of in the same vein because it's still the arts,
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right? Like, I mean, we're on the flip side,
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right? We're analyzing the art,
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but rather than creating it, but...
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~
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I will say, I mean, I love their friendship,
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the friendship that they portray.
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And I love that they make it both generations.
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Like
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Yes.
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I love that Donna has her friendships and then Sophie has her friendships.
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And you can kind of see the parallels,
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right? ~ Because also,
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this is the feminist in me coming out,
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like women's...
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Friendships are incredibly important ~ and most of the time they're actually
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You can you know, tell me I'm wrong.
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Mr. Therapist man, but most of the time I feel like they're more important than
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their actual spouse or like the men in their lives Assuming that's a assuming
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a lot of straightness, which I don't not my intention ~
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But in this case ~
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Just the, I've got your back no matter what.
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Even though, like you said, we haven't seen each other in 10 years,
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but we're starting off again like we never left.
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And while you and I interact,
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like you said, on a day to day,
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sometimes hour to hour, and sometimes multi-day,
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I mean, you know, depending, whatever,
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there are also those...
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that I'm reminded, and I think you have some too,
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where you don't see the people all the time.
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You haven't seen them in a long time.
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Or now you only see them for special events or what have you.
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~ I just had this happen this past summer where I hadn't seen a friend.
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She lived across what felt like the world,
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but across the nation. And we hadn't seen each other in a very long time,
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but we literally just got coffee like it was...
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just yesterday. And so those friendships are so
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interesting in regards to us remembering who we were but also now who we are.
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But that is also a very hard line to run,
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which is why I think it was so hard for Donna to see the three guys also come
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in at the same time, because now you're literally-
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I can't imagine if like five people from my past all came at me at
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Sure.
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the same time, three of which I'm like-
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exes or whatever, know, like that,
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I would die. Like, ~ I don't even know what I would do.
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~
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You're like, that's my worst nightmare.
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Not to mention like, yeah, just putting myself in Donna's shoes,
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I'm like, holy, like, obviously,
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it's kind of like the butt of the joke of the whole show.
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But I'm like, oh my God, if this happened in real life,
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I'd literally just die. Especially if it's like my daughter's wedding
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and I don't know who that, you know what I mean?
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Like, nope, couldn't do it.
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I would have gotten on a boat and sailed off that island so fast.
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Yeah, I would have been like, we need to leave right now.
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We are going to the mainland. But of course,
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again, also like so Greek.
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so Greek. I do want to say, though,
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I think that what when you think about how this is at its core,
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people would argue that this is a love story.
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I think that it truly is.
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I don't I don't remember feeling this way about the last time we saw it,
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so I don't know if my perspective has changed.
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The show itself has changed. Again,
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we've had a new cast come through and that always changes how we're interpreting
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the show. But it felt like Mamma Mia was not about Donna's
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falling back in love with potentially one of these three men.
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But it truly was about the love that you have and the friendships that carry
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you through. And I think you see in the moment where ~ chiquitita into Dancing
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Queen, and she finally tells them that it could potentially be three men.
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And they're shocked at first, but they're not angry that she never told them.
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They never once lose sight of their they immediately jump in and like,
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okay, we'll distract these men will help you.
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Like, it just is there's such a profoundness to the relationships that Donna
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has made again, and along with Sophie,
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Ali and Lisa, who are very early on in their friendship comparatively.
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But I think that the beauty of Mamma Mia really does come from
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the relationships that are friendships.
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but are also so filled with love.
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If you want to talk about it being a love story,
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it's more of a love story between Donna and her daughter and then Donna
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and Sophie and their friends, more so than Donna falling in love with a man,
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which seems groundbreaking when you think about this show came out almost
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30 years ago. And also just because you don't always see a storyline about friends
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being there, like the love of a friendship instead.
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Yeah, mean, for sure probably felt super revolutionary when it came out
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and or I mean it was that feels about right because it was when we talk about love
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in general. ~ I mean now basically what 2000s
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~
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Mm-hmm.
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or late 90s like that totally I mean as old as us practically
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~ tracks but ~
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Yeah.
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Yeah, I've honestly never even when I watch the films like it was almost
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for me it was like a it was just like a this also happened to happen when
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we talk about like Donna's ultimately love life.
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~ Yeah, it was never I never saw it as the focal point of the show.
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And even interestingly, the focus on
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Who is the main character? Because I think in the films it felt like Sophie was.
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I mean,
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Correct. ~ absolutely.
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more so than the theatrical production,
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but in the stage show...
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It's a little bit more, but I mean,
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Donna is the front runner, I think.
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~ But Sophie kind of dominates
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the first quarter of the show,
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I think. And so then she fades and then it fades into Donna's experience.
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with like one or maybe two songs with Sophie.
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But that's not, it's interesting,
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because I think the stage show reframed that for me.
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That's not how I, even though Meryl is a goddess,
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Amanda,
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Seifried.
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to dominate the film for some reason.
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Granted, I haven't watched it in a minute,
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so I could.
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Well, think that, yeah, because one of the last times we watched it was when
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we went to Florida. We were eating pizza and watching Mamma Mia.
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~ But no, so I'm pulling from that memory right now.
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I'm almost positive that they framed Sophie as the protagonist of the story.
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But truthfully, she's the catalyst for Donna's story.
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Like it truly is the story of Donna.
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And part of me wonders if this does go into the fact that we just
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had such a fantastic Donna this time around.
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Shout out to Jessica Crouch.
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I cannot, I have not stopped thinking about her performance
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as Donna since we saw the show.
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And I can't help but think that maybe that's why Donna felt so refreshing
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and or why she felt like she was actually the protagonist of the story instead
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of just a secondary character to Sophie.
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I can't figure it out that what's going on.
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It's always been that way. We just did not have as good of a Donna last time.
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Or if just.
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Crouch is so good at what she's doing in this role that it just makes Donna shine
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more and you really get to see why she is kind of the hero to her own story.
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Yeah, I mean, she is the definition
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of why casting matters.
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I... I... You know, it's not
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too often that I dislike an actor or actress.
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~ And dislike even might be a strong word.
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Prefer or not prefer. But for some reason,
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well...
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There were a handful of reasons that I won't even break down,
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but the difference between the last tour and this one,
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it matters when you show up and you bring the energy.
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And I think Jessica just brought it on a level that
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I'm not even sure we've seen in another production recently,
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like to the same degree. And it-
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what's crazy, and I know that their job is acting.
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However, even through the encore...
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There was so much joy and just through that
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joy energy that I think that is actually what made one of
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the things that made this production stand out way further than the previous one.
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~ Because of course, like you said,
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like we are basically reliving her story.
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And if you don't have someone in that role who is bringing that,
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this show can crawl. And I think that
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Yeah.
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is what happens. Unfortunately,
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it could have just been an off night.
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I'm not even going to say who we saw,
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but night and day,
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night and day difference. And that just made the rest of the cast also.
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Like on fire. Like everyone was so good.
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But when you have a lead that's leading the way that Jessica seemed
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to be, it's infectious. Like on and off stage.
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And that was the other thing. Like obviously we see actors on their socials
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and what have you. And it just seems like not only is
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she a wonderful actress, but she's a great human.
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And that is making this touring experience.
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great for everyone.
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And something that I do want to point out is that they did have a switch
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up because they recently went to Broadway.
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A lot of people have their Broadway debut and then they moved on
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and they started back up. Jessica recently took over this role as a whole bunch
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of other people did. But even the people that were in the show previously.
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know, Harry was in the show previously.
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Rob Marnell, Sam Carmichael's actor,
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Victor Wallace, has been in show for quite some time.
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~
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the two friends, Rosie and Tanya,
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Carly, I'm so sorry, love, if I say this wrong,
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Scarlove and then Jalen Steele,
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they've both been the show before,
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but there was just such an energy with all of these characters that,
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audience, I'm gonna be very, I'm not throwing you under the bus,
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again, sorry, but RJ is not always a laugh out loud person when it comes to shows.
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He's not always like a super like ha ha ha kind of guy.
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And when I tell you that this man was actually like belly laughing at quite
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a few parts, I think that it really sticks,
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talks to the energy that they brought to the show and everybody.
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mean, also shout out to Juliette Ojada who played Sophie.
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Phenomenal. They are all so good in this time.
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And I was just like, this is not the same show that we saw two years ago.
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This is not the same show. You cannot convince me it was the same show.
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And it has to all boil down to.
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these actors who are embodying these roles.
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Yeah, there was just, you know,
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I'm not sure this is right word,
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but like a youthfulness ~ to this cast that...
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Sometime, you know touring casts they have it is hard.
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Like if you don't know like touring is hard work you're doing like nine shows
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a week eight nine shows a week and You're you're floating hotel at a hotel.
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There's really like no consistency anything could change at any time
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and It is grueling
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And even though they love what they do,
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like you can get tired. Like we all have day jobs,
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right? And we all get tired of them.
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And that is where I think, and I'm not sure what tour stop we were
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for the last production, but that might be playing a role because like you said,
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this is, you know, fresh off Broadway.
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They basically, some of them are from the previous cast,
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but reinvigorated with lots of new individuals.
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And it makes a difference if your stop number like
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versus stop number 45.
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Like there is a difference there because at that point
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Correct.
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they've done this show like 500 times and
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so there's again like it's still new it's still exciting and
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you can just you can tell.
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I am gonna throw this in here as well,
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that ~ Jessica Crouch actually posted on her story about our review.
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And this is not me humble bragging,
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but I think it's interesting what she said about the character.
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I don't know, did you see this,
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RJ? Did you see what she posted to her story?
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I did not,
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this is news to me.
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So she posted our picture of what you said about,
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know, RJ's words were, undeniable centerpiece of this production is Donna.
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From the moment Jessica Crouch steps onto stage,
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there's an ease and authority that anchors the entire show.
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She embodies Donna not as a stereotype of independence,
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but as a fully realized woman,
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strong, flawed, guarded, and deeply human.
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And so she wrote and said, I don't often read or give reviews any mind,
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but this popping up does make,
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does feel nice because Donna is
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such an incredibly complex woman.
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I like to call her a seven course dinner that I get to feast on every day.
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And when I read that, I said, not only does she understand Donna,
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but she actually loves Donna. And sometimes I do think I've talked
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to actors before and they said,
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this is a paycheck. This is a job,
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which by all means it is, it absolutely is a job.
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It absolutely is a paycheck. And I don't want to undermine that.
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Whatever reason you have to do it,
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that's fine. But she actually
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is talking about this character like she loves Donna.
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And I think that does show, like you said about the energy about doing this,
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and great, we are fresh into this new run,
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so that does explain some of it.
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But like there's just such a beauty to that,
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I just, it feels good to see an actor just love who they're playing.
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Yeah, and the want to, and she has expressed this,
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the want to share that with people.
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And I think it matters also right now because of the way the world is currently.
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It's really hard to escape the craziness that is our current existence.
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so...
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It is one of, it is a joyful,
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light, yes there's some drama,
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comedy, ~ it makes you forget.
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And I think that's what this cast did quite well,
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is kind of take us out of the day that we're having and immerse us in this story,
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which is the point of theater,
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but sometimes, you know.
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Theater can be heavy, it can have undertones that are heavier,
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and this one still does in regards to those themes,
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but there was still a level of joy at the end of the day.
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~ the energy you bring is the energy that you're gonna give.
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And if you're intentional, especially as an actor saying,
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I want to bring people joy.
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you're manifesting that. You're putting it out into the world as such,
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and I think that's awesome.
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And with that, we are running out of time,
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but stay tuned for part two of our Mamma Mia discussion.
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But we want to know what messages from Mamma Mia stand out to you.
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Let us know in the comments or share with us on social media.
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Thanks again for joining us here in our box seats.
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Until next curtain call.