Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Diana Schwartzstein, Managing Director of Administration and Strategy Innovation at Mass General Brigham
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- 0:00- Prepare to dive into the forefront
- 0:02of healthcare innovation at our 14th annual meeting coming
- 0:05up on April 8th
- 0:06through 11th at the Hyatt Regency in Chicago, with thousands
- 0:10of industry leaders converging over four dynamic days
- 0:13of discussions on crucial topics from health IT
- 0:17to executive leadership.
- 0:18It's where the future of healthcare takes shape.
- 0:21We can't wait to connect with you in person
- 0:24and engage in these important conversations.
- 0:27- Welcome everyone
- 0:28to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:30I'm Mariah Mohamed, writer
- 0:31and moderator with Becker's Healthcare,
- 0:33and I'm absolutely thrilled to have with me today.
- 0:35Diana sch Hornstein from the Innovation Office at
- 0:38a Mass General Brigham.
- 0:39Diana, it's very nice to have you on the podcast today.
- 0:42To get us started, would you mind please introducing
- 0:44yourself and telling us a bit about your background?
- 0:47- Hello everyone. I'm Diana Schwartzstein,
- 0:49and I'm excited to be here today to discuss, uh, my journey
- 0:53and passion for, uh, driving growth
- 0:56and fostering talent within the healthcare field.
- 0:59I began my journey, my career, getting my master's in, um,
- 1:03health communication.
- 1:05This is really when I realized my passion for, uh,
- 1:08driving change and making a significant
- 1:10impact in healthcare.
- 1:12Um, throughout my career, I've led various, um, programs,
- 1:16uh, organizational, financial and strategic,
- 1:20but recently I've been focusing on building talent inclusion
- 1:24and growth programs for innovators,
- 1:27but also those contributing to innovation.
- 1:30Um, I believe if we prioritize nurturing talent
- 1:34and fostering growth, um, we have the ability to create a,
- 1:38a healthcare community where,
- 1:40where everyone can truly thrive.
- 1:42Thank you for having me.
- 1:43Um, I'm excited to share more, um, and,
- 1:46and to be with you today.
- 1:48- Yeah, of course. Thank you so much for giving us
- 1:50that background, and like I said, I'm very excited
- 1:52to have you on the podcast today.
- 1:54Um, to get us started
- 1:55and dive into the topics, uh, a a quick overview for you,
- 2:00what are the biggest issues you're following in
- 2:02healthcare in this year?
- 2:05- Yeah, so my passion is really driving innovation forward
- 2:08and being part of National Brigham,
- 2:11a national leader in medical research, education,
- 2:14and patient care, it offers a tremendous platform
- 2:17to catalyze change.
- 2:19So I'm closely tracking emerging technologies like AI
- 2:23and how they're reshaping healthcare delivery.
- 2:25I'm also following how organizations are
- 2:28empowering their people, specifically innovators,
- 2:32to get more technologies to patients.
- 2:34Also looking at how are organizations navigating these
- 2:37complicated cost challenges
- 2:39and what are they doing to access patient care.
- 2:42Um, so those are the the top things
- 2:43that I'm, I'm currently tracking.
- 2:47- Got it. Got it. Thank you so much for giving us that.
- 2:49And what inspired the creation of the Innovator Development
- 2:53and Growth Division at MGB?
- 2:56Um, and what goals does it aim
- 2:57to achieve within the organization?
- 3:00- Yes, so at Mass General Brigham,
- 3:03we have a sizable community,
- 3:05yet only a small number are
- 3:07actively contributing as innovators.
- 3:09This highlights a critical need
- 3:11to maximize the commercial potential of our research
- 3:14by empowering more innovation, more innovators,
- 3:16and getting more breakthrough technologies to patients.
- 3:20Recognizing this need, we research the barriers
- 3:22to innovation for our community, both through surveys
- 3:26that inspired a Harvard Business School case study
- 3:28that's actually now taught in the classroom to MBAs
- 3:31and through executive education
- 3:32and from published research by Mark Ucci,
- 3:35who's an MGH radiologist
- 3:37and the founder of the Mesh platform,
- 3:39which is an innovation training
- 3:41and cross institutional networking hub
- 3:44with over 3000 researchers, clinicians
- 3:46and others, um, involved.
- 3:48And it continues to grow, um, really driven
- 3:51by a shared vision.
- 3:53Mark and I decided to unite our efforts
- 3:56to do something more strategic
- 3:58and to enable transformational impact
- 4:01on the operational lead.
- 4:03And Mark is the clinical lead.
- 4:04We also have a project lead, a new gupte, um,
- 4:07but with the full support
- 4:08of our systems chief innovation Officer, Chris Coburn,
- 4:12this newly launched unit, um, as you mentioned,
- 4:15the Innovator Development
- 4:16and Growth Division, IDGD, it provides
- 4:20a comprehensive innovation training and development hub.
- 4:24We aim to enable more innovators,
- 4:26support existing innovators,
- 4:28and ultimately drive more action innovation.
- 4:32But we're also trying to really create and change culture.
- 4:35Um, you know, a culture
- 4:36where innovation is not only supported, but it's encouraged.
- 4:40Um, so that that's what we're working on right now.
- 4:44- Yeah. Thank you so much for giving us that insight
- 4:46and, you know, being Women's History Month,
- 4:50I think the next question that I should ask, uh, in, in
- 4:53what ways does IDGD foster inclusivity within the
- 4:58innovator community, particularly in empowering
- 5:01underutilized talents such as women, um,
- 5:04and what could other health systems
- 5:06learn from this, do you think?
- 5:08- Yeah, I'm so excited you're asking about this
- 5:10because it's an area we've spent so much time.
- 5:13Um, our approach stems from our research on the barriers
- 5:17to innovation, which we've used to tailor our programs
- 5:20to reach a broader audience, especially those
- 5:23that are currently underrepresented.
- 5:25The HBS case study led by HBS Professor Katie Kaufman
- 5:30shares efforts to understand why certain groups participate
- 5:34less and how to effectively engage them.
- 5:36This case, uh, features our CEO and Dr.
- 5:40Anne Lansky, who is a transformational leader
- 5:42and champion of this work.
- 5:45Um, and the case study findings align closely
- 5:47with Mark's findings as well.
- 5:50Um, so let give you some tactical examples of
- 5:52how we go about this and,
- 5:54and hopefully others can learn from it.
- 5:57First, our annual Rising Innovator program,
- 6:00it includes 50 individuals from across the system.
- 6:03We intentionally ensure that at least half
- 6:06of the cohort are women with an aim
- 6:08to directly impact the future
- 6:10composition of the innovator community.
- 6:12Additionally, we customize content
- 6:14to address specific barriers we've identified.
- 6:17So for example, we found that women tend to view themselves
- 6:21as less as innovators.
- 6:23Um, so we design build into our program content
- 6:26around empowering participants to see themselves
- 6:28as innovators and also encouraging them to take more risks.
- 6:32Finally, we offer programs a variety of programs tailored
- 6:36to meet unique needs, preferences, and learning styles.
- 6:38We've got it all covered. We offer in-person programs,
- 6:41on demand programs, peer to peer, our diverse range of, um,
- 6:46different formats ensures
- 6:48that everyone can find the right fit
- 6:49for their journey towards, uh, innovation and
- 6:52and and towards growth.
- 6:54So those are some ways we've been going about this.
- 6:59- Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 7:01And you know, I imagine with all the wonderful things
- 7:03that you've discussed so far, um, you know, data has
- 7:07to come into play at some point in time.
- 7:09So what role does data play in identifying
- 7:11opportunities and progress?
- 7:14- Yes. Um, data is key.
- 7:17Uh, data plays a a very key role in our approach
- 7:21and we're deeply rooted in data decision making.
- 7:24So, um, as I mentioned, we conduct research
- 7:27to identify barriers, um,
- 7:29and then use those insights to design effective.
- 7:32So, so that's one way.
- 7:34We also use data to identify high potential populations and,
- 7:38and to reach those who may have been overlooked.
- 7:41Um, and we're also committed to tracking individuals who go
- 7:45through our programs in our databases, and,
- 7:48and by monitoring their progress over time,
- 7:51we can measure the impact of our success and
- 7:53or course correct as needed.
- 7:55So, uh, data really is key, both sort of at the,
- 7:59the research stage, the, um, looking for your populations
- 8:03and then making sure you're actively monitoring them
- 8:06and supporting them, um, through their journeys.
- 8:09- Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
- 8:11Thank you so much for sharing that.
- 8:12And, uh, do you,
- 8:14can you share any early successes in notable achievements
- 8:18that have stemmed from initiatives led by the IDGD?
- 8:22- Thanks for asking that.
- 8:24I think one, um, you know, good place to start is
- 8:28we have 50 people that go
- 8:30through our rising innovator program each year.
- 8:34And what we're seeing is that the people that go
- 8:37through our program are recommending their
- 8:39peers to go through their program.
- 8:40And we're creating a community of like-minded people
- 8:44who are encouraging each other to pursue innovation.
- 8:49And that's a direct, um, impact of the programs
- 8:52that we're designing is that we're creating this community
- 8:55where not only are they thinking about themselves
- 8:57as innovators, but thinking about their peers and colleagues
- 9:00and, um, bringing them in to join us as we move forward.
- 9:05- Wonderful, wonderful.
- 9:07And, um, the last question I wanted to ask you is
- 9:09how does the IDGD collaborate with external partners
- 9:13to achieve its mission?
- 9:16- Yes. So we have placed, um, significant
- 9:19emphasis on leveraging partnerships
- 9:22to achieve our objectives, both through industry
- 9:25but also academia, especially being in Boston.
- 9:28Um, I'll give you a a few examples.
- 9:30The first one is we collaborate closely with Babson College
- 9:34to deliver two of our, our programs
- 9:37by combining academic faculty with our innovation experts.
- 9:41We create a highly tailored learning experience,
- 9:44and it's been, uh, very unique and,
- 9:46and so far has played out really well.
- 9:49Um, we established a strategic advisory council,
- 9:51which includes industry leaders who actively shape
- 9:54and advise our initiatives.
- 9:56Getting outside perspective, um, on how
- 10:00to go about these programs and learn from their experience
- 10:03and expertise has been, has been invaluable.
- 10:06And, um, finally we are committed to collaborating
- 10:09with organizations and healthcare systems
- 10:12that share our vision and objectives.
- 10:14Um, we probably, I would say at least once a week, um,
- 10:19meet, have, uh, dedicated meetings on these exchanges,
- 10:23sharing insights, successes,
- 10:25and addressing common challenges.
- 10:27Um, this ongoing exchange of knowledge
- 10:31and experiences enables us to learn from one another
- 10:34and form collaborations
- 10:36that propel us towards our collective goals.
- 10:39So, um, those are our few examples.
- 10:43- Yeah. Thank you so much for those final thoughts.
- 10:45This has definitely been an amazing
- 10:47and informative discussion.
- 10:49So again, I wanna thank you so much
- 10:50for coming on Kers Healthcare.
- 10:52We really do appreciate it.
- 10:53Um, and I look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 10:56- Thank you so much for having me.
- 10:57I really appreciate it too.