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- 0:00Speaker 1: 315 and 314 for a shooting at Century Theater's.
- 0:03Speaker 2: 14300 East Alameda Avenue.
- 0:05Speaker 3: They're saying somebody's shooting in the auditorium.
- 0:09Speaker 4: Just after midnight on July 20th, in a small town
- 0:12Speaker 4: in Midwest America, a masked gunman enters a theater showing
- 0:16Speaker 4: the premiere of the new Batman film.
- 0:18Speaker 5: Yeah, all of our people are saying Theater 9, where
- 0:20Speaker 5: Batman was playing.
- 0:22Speaker 6: A local radio station is reporting that some people have
- 0:24Speaker 6: been killed, but there has been no official confirmation.
- 0:29Speaker 4: The details soon become clear and the reality is horrific.
- 0:35Speaker 7: And here's what we know right now, as you mentioned,
- 0:37Speaker 7: the revised number, 12 dead, 50 injured.
- 0:40Speaker 8: The youngest victim, just three months old. The suspect is
- 0:44Speaker 8: in custody right now.
- 0:45Speaker 9: We know he's a young man, 24 years old.
- 0:48Speaker 8: Eyewitnesses describe him as armed for battle.
- 0:51Speaker 10: Armed for battle.
- 0:54Speaker 4: The accused an academically brilliant college dropout. James Holmes, aged 24,
- 1:06Speaker 4: he dyed his hair orange and when arrested tells the
- 1:09Speaker 4: police he is the Joker.
- 1:11Speaker 11: We may never understand what leads anybody to terrorize their
- 1:15Speaker 11: fellow human beings like this. Such violence, such evil is senseless.
- 1:23Speaker 4: I'm Amal Fashinou, and this is me two nights before
- 1:26Speaker 4: the Aurora shootings at the London Leicester Square premiere of
- 1:28Speaker 4: The Dark Knight Rises, where Batman Christian Bale and Catwoman
- 1:33Speaker 4: Anne Hathaway are the stars of the red carpet. Now
- 1:38Speaker 4: I've come 5,000 miles to Colorado to meet people who
- 1:41Speaker 4: were inside Century 16 when the shooting started.
- 1:46Speaker 1: God, it was like so much, bloody... It's not like
- 1:51Speaker 1: what you see in Hollywood at all.
- 1:55Speaker 4: I'll hear stories of incredible heroism.
- 1:58Speaker 3: He completely protected me by telling me what I needed
- 2:01Speaker 3: to do and pushing me under that seat further. He
- 2:04Speaker 3: knew he was saving my life.
- 2:06Speaker 4: I want to find out if young Americans think the
- 2:08Speaker 4: time has come to tackle gun control. I think guns
- 2:12Speaker 4: are great.
- 2:13Speaker 12: I want a gun.
- 2:14Speaker 10: I'm gonna go buy one right now, actually.
- 2:16Speaker 4: And I'll tell the story of how the lives of
- 2:18Speaker 4: James Holmes and one of his victims, Jessica Redfield, both 24,
- 2:23Speaker 4: collided on a night that saw the deaths of 10
- 2:25Speaker 4: Americans under the age of 30.
- 2:27Speaker 9: They're saying there's hundreds of people just running around.
- 2:31Speaker 13: Got a child victim I need to rescue at the
- 2:34Speaker 13: back door of Theater 9 now.
- 3:03Speaker 4: I've arrived in Colorado less than a week after the shootings.
- 3:09Speaker 4: Right next to the state capital of Denver is the
- 3:11Speaker 4: city of Aurora, population 325,000. Aurora's main feature is the
- 3:17Speaker 4: Century 16 Theater, and it's here that the shootings happened.
- 3:22Speaker 4: No one really expects to go to a cinema and
- 3:25Speaker 4: end up being shot, or, you know, end up having
- 3:30Speaker 4: a friend shot or a family member shot. Century 16
- 3:34Speaker 4: is still cordoned off, so relatives and friends have created
- 3:37Speaker 4: a makeshift memorial on a patch of land close by.
- 3:45Speaker 4: It's bare, raw, and the tributes are heartbreaking. I don't know,
- 3:51Speaker 4: this kind of reminds me of Princess Diana's memorial. I
- 3:55Speaker 4: was really young when that happened, but this kind of
- 3:58Speaker 4: brings back memories. It hits me just how young they
- 4:01Speaker 4: all are. 27, 24, 23, 18, even six years old.
- 4:10Speaker 4: How old are you personally, if you don't mind me asking?
- 4:12Speaker 6: 28.
- 4:13Speaker 14: 28, yeah.
- 4:14Speaker 4: Because I'm 23 and I kind of just find this
- 4:17Speaker 4: just amazing how everyone was so young as well.
- 4:19Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and that's what breaks your heart.
- 4:22Speaker 8: You've got to keep looking at it.
- 4:24Speaker 11: Haven't even lived half their life.
- 4:26Speaker 15: Yeah, and it could have been anyone.
- 4:27Speaker 4: It could have been you, yeah, like any of me.
- 4:30Speaker 4: I think people are very open here and I don't
- 4:32Speaker 4: have anything to do with this and, you know, they
- 4:34Speaker 4: welcome me and I've been here and I kind of
- 4:36Speaker 4: feel like one of them. And I think that a
- 4:39Speaker 4: lot of people knew each other, which is unfortunate as
- 4:42Speaker 4: well because I guess they knew a lot of the
- 4:44Speaker 4: people who have passed away. Did you know anyone here?
- 4:47Speaker 5: Yeah, I knew AJ.
- 4:49Speaker 4: Okay, a lot of people seem to know AJ. What
- 4:52Speaker 4: was he like as a person?
- 4:54Speaker 2: He was always happy and smiling, and if he was sad,
- 4:56Speaker 2: he'd always be the one.
- 4:57Speaker 13: To make your day.
- 4:58Speaker 4: Was he very popular? How do you feel about this?
- 5:04Speaker 5: Well, I've known him since I was six years old, so.
- 5:08Speaker 4: I'm really sorry.
- 5:11Speaker 14: I'm so sorry.
- 5:12Speaker 4: A lot of these people have lost a lot of
- 5:14Speaker 4: loved ones. I've lost people that I loved before, so
- 5:17Speaker 4: I can understand what they're going through. And to be
- 5:20Speaker 4: honest with you, This is just, it's so much more
- 5:25Speaker 4: than a tragedy that I can't even describe what it is.
- 5:28Speaker 4: It's something just totally incoherent. And this is just awful. First,
- 5:36Speaker 4: let's spin back to 1987. James Holmes is born here
- 5:40Speaker 4: in San Diego, Southern California. An exceptionally bright student, he
- 5:45Speaker 4: leaves school with top grades.
- 5:47Speaker 13: All right, our next speaker is James Holmes.
- 5:50Speaker 4: Aged 18. He's introduced to students at a summer camp.
- 5:55Speaker 11: In personal life, he enjoys playing soccer and strategy games,
- 5:58Speaker 11: and his dream is to own a Slurpee machine.
- 6:03Speaker 4: These kids have been fun to work with this summer.
- 6:05Speaker 4: But he's a serious student. His expertise is neuroscience.
- 6:10Speaker 16: My mentor, John Jacobson, who works in CNO, is a
- 6:14Speaker 16: philosophical type of guy. He's interested in how we perceive reality.
- 6:18Speaker 4: Describers academically at the top of the top. James Holmes
- 6:22Speaker 4: studies neuroscience at the University of California, Riverside. James Holmes
- 6:32Speaker 4: wouldn't have known Jessica Redfield, who was taking the first
- 6:35Speaker 4: tentative steps on her chosen career. She too was attending
- 6:39Speaker 4: a university while at the same time trying to break
- 6:41Speaker 4: into her dream career of sports journalism. She'd landed an
- 6:45Speaker 4: internship at a cable TV station and was sent out
- 6:48Speaker 4: to interview an ice hockey star.
- 6:50Speaker 17: And what about players coming in and out throughout the
- 6:53Speaker 17: entire season? You get guys that come down from the NHL.
- 6:56Speaker 17: You can have guys that are coming in from the Coyotes.
- 6:58Speaker 17: How does that change the dynamic of the team?
- 7:00Speaker 4: The interns' outtakes were posted on YouTube.
- 7:06Speaker 11: There we go.
- 7:09Speaker 15: Can we please stick?
- 7:12Speaker 6: Here at 760 WKR.
- 7:15Speaker 4: Jessica was determined that one day she would make it
- 7:17Speaker 4: to the top, and clearly, She was an instant hit
- 7:21Speaker 4: with the hockey team.
- 7:34Speaker 16: After we modify their perception of time, we completely remove
- 7:37Speaker 16: the delay, and this causes the time illusion.
- 7:40Speaker 4: James Holmes graduates with a bachelor's degree, but finding work
- 7:44Speaker 4: is difficult. He gets a part-time job at McDonald's. then
- 7:48Speaker 4: moves 1,000 miles east to Denver, Colorado to start a
- 7:52Speaker 4: PhD in neuroscience. But he struggles and quits in early June.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Out of college, out of a job, and getting deep
- 8:00Speaker 4: into prescription drugs, Holmes starts searching the internet for explosives
- 8:04Speaker 4: and ammunition. On June 25th, he fills out an application
- 8:08Speaker 4: form to join a gun club. I've tracked down the
- 8:16Speaker 4: club 30 miles east of town. The owner has agreed
- 8:19Speaker 4: to meet me, and for the first time publicly, show
- 8:23Speaker 4: me the application form that James Holmes submitted. My name's Amal.
- 8:27Speaker 12: Amal?
- 8:28Speaker 11: Glad to meet you, Amal.
- 8:30Speaker 5: This is the actual application that we received from him,
- 8:33Speaker 5: with his name, address, all the general information on it,
- 8:35Speaker 5: and his parents' address in San Diego. When I called
- 8:38Speaker 5: James Holmes, the problem was is that when I called him,
- 8:41Speaker 5: he had this rather guttural, bizarre message on his answering
- 8:46Speaker 5: machine that was indistinguishable rambling very weird at best bizarre
- 8:52Speaker 5: and so I left the message for him anyway figuring
- 8:55Speaker 5: who knows maybe somebody did it and he doesn't know
- 8:58Speaker 5: it's there and he didn't call back so I ended
- 9:01Speaker 5: up calling the next day and the next day so
- 9:03Speaker 5: by the third day my attitude was kind of like
- 9:06Speaker 5: you know this is strange and bizarre you're not calling
- 9:09Speaker 5: me back you should be you sent me an application
- 9:12Speaker 5: you know this isn't right so I just simply told
- 9:14Speaker 5: the staff look This guy's not scheduled, he's not supposed
- 9:17Speaker 5: to be here. If he shows, then please set him aside,
- 9:21Speaker 5: put him there, don't process him until I get a
- 9:23Speaker 5: chance to talk to him to find out who and
- 9:25Speaker 5: what he is.
- 9:26Speaker 4: Around the same time, just six weeks before the Batman shootings,
- 9:30Speaker 4: Jessica Redfield is in Toronto visiting a shopping mall when
- 9:33Speaker 4: panic breaks out. One person was killed and seven others
- 9:38Speaker 4: injured in a shooting in one of Canada's busiest shopping centers.
- 9:42Speaker 4: Ever the journalist, Jessica goes online to tell the world
- 9:46Speaker 4: what's happened.
- 9:47Speaker 18: I was shown how fragile life was on Saturday. I
- 9:50Speaker 18: saw terror on the bystanders' faces. I saw the victims
- 9:54Speaker 18: of a senseless crime. I saw lives change.
- 9:57Speaker 1: She said it was definitely a horrific experience. and scary.
- 10:02Speaker 4: In Aurora, I meet Harmony Johnson, who went to hockey
- 10:05Speaker 4: matches with Jessica. She believes that Jessica's escape from the
- 10:09Speaker 4: Toronto shooting had given her a fresh perspective.
- 10:12Speaker 1: She didn't let it affect her. She didn't let, like,
- 10:17Speaker 1: her experience... keep her a victim or make her afraid
- 10:23Speaker 1: of living life at all.
- 10:34Speaker 4: A hundred miles east of Denver, high in the Rocky Mountains,
- 10:37Speaker 4: I've come to the old mining town of Leadville to
- 10:40Speaker 4: check out their annual Boom Day parade. It's a chance
- 10:44Speaker 4: to find out if Aurora has changed young Americans' views
- 10:48Speaker 4: on guns. The right to bear arms is a key
- 10:52Speaker 4: part of the US Constitution. And in Leadville, that's something
- 10:56Speaker 4: they take very seriously. But I'm still surprised to find
- 11:06Speaker 4: that a street gun display is part of the family entertainment.
- 11:23Speaker 8: I'm so scared.
- 11:26Speaker 4: If I was a kid, I would be petrified. They
- 11:30Speaker 4: seem pretty relaxed compared to me. In this part of
- 11:40Speaker 4: the country, owning and using guns is an important tradition.
- 11:44Speaker 4: But do young Americans here feel the same?
- 11:47Speaker 9: Well, I personally own three guns, and I think it's
- 11:50Speaker 9: important to me to have a gun in my house
- 11:53Speaker 9: because I'm a single person. I live in Boulder, which
- 11:57Speaker 9: is a secure town, but my house has been broken
- 11:59Speaker 9: into before.
- 12:00Speaker 10: I come from a very rural community out in the woods,
- 12:04Speaker 10: so I was grown up with guns being a tool
- 12:06Speaker 10: for hunting animals and providing food for families. They're part
- 12:10Speaker 10: of American culture and have been and continue and will be.
- 12:13Speaker 19: I want a gun.
- 12:14Speaker 10: I'm going to go buy one right now, actually.
- 12:16Speaker 8: Oh, really?
- 12:17Speaker 10: Yeah, I already own an AR-15.
- 12:19Speaker 13: But I'm going to go buy another pistol.
- 12:21Speaker 8: I'm going to go buy a pistol today.
- 12:23Speaker 4: I think guns are great.
- 12:25Speaker 20: Everybody has their right to own weapons.
- 12:28Speaker 19: If they want to have guns, by all means, own them.
- 12:30Speaker 2: If we're Americans, we should be able to bear arms,
- 12:34Speaker 2: or why are you Americans?
- 12:38Speaker 4: I found just one person here who has reservations about
- 12:41Speaker 4: gun ownerships.
- 12:43Speaker 20: I do think guns are important, but I kind of
- 12:45Speaker 20: think that I would be contradictory to most people that
- 12:47Speaker 20: you would ask here. I think that they shouldn't be
- 12:50Speaker 20: in the home. I think that owning them and allowing
- 12:53Speaker 20: them to be everywhere just perpetuates more violence, and I'm
- 12:57Speaker 20: not a huge supporter of it.
- 13:01Speaker 13: Get out of our way!
- 13:03Speaker 5: We got a delivery to make to the bank, and
- 13:05Speaker 5: I'm not going to put up with no shenanigans.
- 13:08Speaker 11: Back off!
- 13:09Speaker 4: The Leadville Old West Reenactment Society stages a mock shootout
- 13:14Speaker 4: as part of the parade. And people here love it.
- 13:20Speaker 13: I'll take this from you, sir.
- 13:23Speaker 8: Well, at the end of the old crown.
- 13:29Speaker 3: I guess.
- 13:41Speaker 5: It's all good, clean fun, to the point that guns
- 13:44Speaker 5: don't kill people.
- 13:44Speaker 14: It's the people behind the guns that cause the damage.
- 13:47Speaker 20: That's it.
- 13:49Speaker 4: So had the shooting in Aurora only two weeks before
- 13:52Speaker 4: changed the views of these young people?
- 13:55Speaker 9: No, it hasn't. I think that, like I said, with
- 13:59Speaker 9: gun safety, it's a big deal. If you own a gun,
- 14:01Speaker 9: you should be responsible. There's no way that they can
- 14:04Speaker 9: regulate someone who has a problem.
- 14:06Speaker 10: There are a lot of crazy people in the world
- 14:08Speaker 10: doing a lot of crazy things, and so it's hard
- 14:10Speaker 10: to single out and say, this is the reason that
- 14:13Speaker 10: guns should be banned or outlawed or something like that.
- 14:16Speaker 4: Some think the real lesson of Aurora is that people
- 14:19Speaker 4: need more guns.
- 14:21Speaker 12: We should have them for our protection.
- 14:23Speaker 1: If everybody in the theater had a gun on their person.
- 14:28Speaker 12: It would have never happened.
- 14:29Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 14:49Speaker 4: On July 5th, Jessica Redfield tweets that she is celebrating
- 14:53Speaker 4: her first year in Denver.
- 14:55Speaker 18: Can't believe I moved to Colorado a year ago today.
- 14:58Speaker 18: Thanks to everyone who stuck with me along the way.
- 15:01Speaker 18: It's been a fun journey so far.
- 15:03Speaker 4: And on July 16th, she has some personal good news
- 15:06Speaker 4: to share.
- 15:08Speaker 8: It's official.
- 15:09Speaker 18: I'm going to be a godmother on August 6th at
- 15:11Speaker 18: 2 p.m. Poor kid doesn't know what he's in for.
- 15:15Speaker 4: James Holmes isn't on Twitter or Facebook. Having dropped out
- 15:18Speaker 4: of his PhD course, he's looking for sex and speaking
- 15:22Speaker 4: to strangers on Adult Friend Finder. It seems he had
- 15:25Speaker 4: become obsessed with the Batman films. He dyes his hair
- 15:28Speaker 4: orange and appears to be modeling himself on one of
- 15:31Speaker 4: the series' key characters, the crazed gunman, the Joker.
- 15:38Speaker 16: Come on!
- 15:45Speaker 4: Throughout this summer, James Holmes manages to buy 6,000 rounds
- 15:49Speaker 4: of ammunition online. And with no criminal record and a
- 15:54Speaker 4: current Colorado driving license, he is able to buy four
- 15:57Speaker 4: guns at specialist stores in Aurora, including this one.
- 16:00Speaker 6: An official Batman hat!
- 16:11Speaker 4: Around the world, for many young people, premieres of The
- 16:14Speaker 4: Dark Knight Rises means Batman fever, costumes, souvenirs, and Batmobiles.
- 16:23Speaker 4: In Aurora, I find four people who'd bought tickets for
- 16:26Speaker 4: the premiere, a night filled with excitement and anticipation. Kevin Lam,
- 16:34Speaker 4: age 18, a computer software design student, goes to the
- 16:37Speaker 4: movie with his girlfriend Ariane.
- 16:39Speaker 8: I'd never been to a movie premiere before, so this
- 16:42Speaker 8: was already an amazing thing, going with my girlfriend.
- 16:46Speaker 4: Jansen Young, age 21, heads to the cinema with her boyfriend,
- 16:49Speaker 4: John Blanc, after thinking about staying in for the night.
- 16:52Speaker 3: That night, he was really tired, and we had almost
- 16:55Speaker 3: discussed not going, but then we were like, no, we
- 16:57Speaker 3: already got the tickets, let's go. And so we were tired,
- 17:01Speaker 3: but we were still excited to see the movie because
- 17:03Speaker 3: we'd been excited for it, you know.
- 17:05Speaker 4: For a while. Tony Hwang. Age 18, a college student.
- 17:10Speaker 4: With a group of friends, he arrives early to be
- 17:12Speaker 4: sure of a seat.
- 17:14Speaker 14: It was the Batman premiere and it was just so
- 17:17Speaker 14: exciting that night and I really wanted to see it.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Harmony Johnson, 23, a single mom being treated for cancer.
- 17:26Speaker 4: With two friends, she joins a crowd of 200 people.
- 17:30Speaker 1: We were excited, we were pumped up, everybody was rooting.
- 17:34Speaker 1: People had their face painted, people had their hair colored,
- 17:38Speaker 1: people were wearing Batman shirts and costumes and just having
- 17:43Speaker 1: a great time. I don't know, it was like going
- 17:48Speaker 1: to a party.
- 17:50Speaker 4: Jessica Redfield has her ticket but tweets that she's had
- 17:53Speaker 4: a hard time finding someone to go with.
- 17:55Speaker 18: Never thought I'd have to coerce a guy into seeing
- 17:57Speaker 18: the midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises with me.
- 18:01Speaker 4: Her excitement is clear as the pre-film trailers start.
- 18:04Speaker 18: Movie doesn't start for 20 minutes.
- 18:08Speaker 1: I remember my friends telling me that this was going
- 18:11Speaker 1: to be the best night ever.
- 18:15Speaker 4: James Holmes leaves his flat for the movie, but keeps
- 18:18Speaker 4: music blaring so loudly it disturbs the neighbors. He drives
- 18:24Speaker 4: to Century 16 with a car full of guns and ammunition.
- 18:30Speaker 4: The midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises is being
- 18:33Speaker 4: shown on Screen 9. But so many people have turned up,
- 18:36Speaker 4: they decide to show it on screen eight as well. Unusually,
- 18:43Speaker 4: James Holmes parks at the back of the multiplex. Inside,
- 18:46Speaker 4: he manages to get a front row seat in screen nine.
- 18:50Speaker 4: Once the film begins, Holmes quietly gets up and heads
- 18:53Speaker 4: for the rear emergency exit door. He goes to his car,
- 18:58Speaker 4: where he puts on a helmet, gas mask, bulletproof vest
- 19:02Speaker 4: and leggings, and then picks up gas canisters, his shotgun, handgun,
- 19:07Speaker 4: and a semi-automatic rifle. He returns via the emergency exit door,
- 19:13Speaker 4: which he left propped open and heads back to Theater 9.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Someone walked in the right-hand corner by the screen that
- 19:21Speaker 3: threw something up behind us. It landed in, like, the
- 19:25Speaker 3: left-back corner, and it smoked the.
- 19:27Speaker 4: Entire way up there.
- 19:28Speaker 18: And, like, I watched it, and.
- 19:30Speaker 3: Then when it went boom, immediately it was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,
- 19:34Speaker 3: that's not part of this.
- 19:35Speaker 14: At first I thought it was some kind of joke.
- 19:37Speaker 14: And then, like, the smoke canister exploded and smoke was
- 19:41Speaker 14: coming out.
- 19:42Speaker 1: I was in Theater 8 when everything was going on
- 19:45Speaker 1: in Theater 9. They were screaming from the right that
- 19:49Speaker 1: there was smoke coming over. and I looked over and
- 19:53Speaker 1: I thought they don't they don't play dry they don't
- 19:57Speaker 1: put dry ice at a movie theater but is it
- 20:00Speaker 1: part of the movie?
- 20:01Speaker 8: And then next I see flashes and I looked into
- 20:06Speaker 8: the flashes four shots in I stared in the muzzle,
- 20:12Speaker 8: just seeing the flash. I stared at it.
- 20:13Speaker 14: My friend pushed me down and told me to duck.
- 20:17Speaker 11: And I did.
- 20:18Speaker 14: And that's when I realized it wasn't fireworks or anything.
- 20:21Speaker 14: It was gunshots.
- 20:22Speaker 4: And the bullets were actually going through the walls?
- 20:24Speaker 1: Were actually going through the walls.
- 20:30Speaker 4: Jansen Young's boyfriend, John Blanc, immediately understands what's happening.
- 20:35Speaker 3: He pushed me down and said, Jansen, get down and
- 20:37Speaker 3: stay down, and pushed me down behind the seats. And
- 20:40Speaker 3: I was like, why? And he pushed me down further
- 20:44Speaker 3: onto my stomach and pushed me under the seats and said,
- 20:48Speaker 3: because there's a man in the movie theater shooting people.
- 20:50Speaker 3: And by that point, I could hear multiple gunshots that
- 20:54Speaker 3: had gone off.
- 20:55Speaker 9: Bang, bang, bang.
- 20:58Speaker 1: And the screams were unreal.
- 21:02Speaker 3: The person above me was screaming, I've been shot, I've
- 21:04Speaker 3: been shot.
- 21:05Speaker 4: And even still I was thinking, this has got to
- 21:07Speaker 4: be a joke.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Everybody's acting, everybody's in on this and they're getting shot
- 21:11Speaker 3: with something they don't think is actually bullets. This has
- 21:14Speaker 3: got to be a joke.
- 21:14Speaker 1: It was a constant, just non-stop firing.
- 21:19Speaker 4: But then the firing does stop. The gunman's semi-automatic jams.
- 21:24Speaker 14: And then all of a sudden it was quiet. And
- 21:28Speaker 14: we just knew that we had to run during that
- 21:31Speaker 14: time because... It seemed like he was reloading.
- 21:34Speaker 8: I jumped over with a friend. I told him, guys,
- 21:36Speaker 8: we got to go.
- 21:37Speaker 1: Run, run.
- 21:39Speaker 4: The gunman, it turns out, is no professional. His confusion
- 21:43Speaker 4: and delay over changing weapons means many people escaped. but
- 21:47Speaker 4: they have witnessed unimaginable horror.
- 21:49Speaker 3: And I could just feel blood running down from the
- 21:54Speaker 3: seat above me.
- 21:55Speaker 16: My friend.
- 22:09Speaker 8: Last thing I heard her say, I got shot. And
- 22:12Speaker 8: I remember rolling down around on her blood.
- 22:15Speaker 3: There was a man running like over the seat ceiling.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Jesse's been shot. Jesse's been shot. And he stepped on
- 22:20Speaker 3: my head on the way out and like pushed my
- 22:24Speaker 3: face more into this blood that kept running down. And
- 22:26Speaker 3: it was running all over my back.
- 22:28Speaker 1: I could hear someone breathing.
- 22:38Speaker 3: On my left side, like labored breaths. And that's when
- 22:43Speaker 3: I think I knew that John had been shot.
- 22:45Speaker 1: People were just dragging and crawling and running and screaming.
- 22:52Speaker 1: It was the most horrific thing I'd ever seen.
- 23:02Speaker 4: There was like so much blood.
- 23:06Speaker 1: It's not like what you see in Hollywood at all.
- 23:11Speaker 3: I kind of slid out from under the seats and
- 23:14Speaker 3: John was unresponsive. I was like shaking him and saying, John,
- 23:17Speaker 3: come on, we got to go.
- 23:18Speaker 4: But where is the gunman? Afraid he's still at large,
- 23:21Speaker 4: Johnson Young hides behind a rubbish bin.
- 23:24Speaker 3: I heard the police scream freeze to someone. And even then,
- 23:29Speaker 3: I didn't feel safe.
- 23:30Speaker 1: I heard people screaming in the back that they got
- 23:33Speaker 1: him back there.
- 23:33Speaker 4: Yes, we've got rifles, gas masks.
- 23:35Speaker 9: He's detained right now.
- 23:37Speaker 2: I've got an open.
- 23:38Speaker 11: Door going into the theater.
- 23:40Speaker 1: It was unreal.
- 23:42Speaker 4: The people that.
- 23:45Speaker 1: Young people my age. There was kids there my son's age.
- 23:57Speaker 1: teenagers and they were shot and they were covered in
- 24:00Speaker 1: blood and you don't you don't see that in the
- 24:06Speaker 1: movies and we were in the movies i.
- 24:11Speaker 4: Need a march core behind the theater.
- 24:13Speaker 12: Table side the suspect in a gas mask okay hold
- 24:17Speaker 12: that position hold.
- 24:18Speaker 4: Your suspect Surrendering without a fight, police discover a young
- 24:23Speaker 4: man with dyed orange hair staring blankly, declaring, I am
- 24:26Speaker 4: the Joker. Across town, the University of Colorado Hospital goes
- 24:31Speaker 4: into its disaster plan. Physician Dr. Camilla Sasson is on
- 24:35Speaker 4: duty and tells me how the hospital dealt with the
- 24:38Speaker 4: incoming casualties.
- 24:39Speaker 19: So we saw 23 patients total, and they came in
- 24:43Speaker 19: mostly through police cars. And I would say our first 9,
- 24:45Speaker 19: 10 patients that we saw were very critically injured. So
- 24:48Speaker 19: we had gunshot.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Wounds to the head, to the chest, to the belly.
- 24:53Speaker 19: I've been doing this for about 10 years, and there
- 24:55Speaker 19: were some of the most horrific wounds I've ever seen.
- 24:56Speaker 19: And it takes a lot to do that to an
- 24:59Speaker 19: emergency room doctor. So as you can see right here,
- 25:01Speaker 19: this is actually the ambulance bay where all of our
- 25:03Speaker 19: patients were coming in. So it was just police car
- 25:06Speaker 19: after police car that was coming in that night. And
- 25:09Speaker 19: we would literally take, bring a stretcher out right up
- 25:12Speaker 19: to here, move it out to the little ambulance bay
- 25:15Speaker 19: right here, and then take the body out of the
- 25:16Speaker 19: back of the police officer's car, put it on the stretcher.
- 25:20Speaker 19: Myself and Dr. Block would assess the patients right here.
- 25:23Speaker 19: Just two of you? Just two of us would actually
- 25:25Speaker 19: assess them coming in. We'd look at, see how critically
- 25:28Speaker 19: injured they were. And then they would literally go to
- 25:30Speaker 19: the left here, which is our resuscitation bay, or to
- 25:32Speaker 19: this little sort of mash unit that we had created
- 25:34Speaker 19: where all of our very critically ill, but maybe didn't
- 25:37Speaker 19: need to be put on a ventilator, patients would stay.
- 25:39Speaker 19: As an ER doc, I think I'm just sick and
- 25:41Speaker 19: tired of taking care of gunshot wound victims. It's just
- 25:43Speaker 19: really hard to have to take care of patients time
- 25:45Speaker 19: and time again when we know that they weren't doing
- 25:48Speaker 19: anything wrong. The fact that we're able to keep 22
- 25:50Speaker 19: of these victims alive, to me, is really a miracle.
- 25:55Speaker 4: Back in the cinema, it's selfless heroism that saves lives.
- 25:59Speaker 4: Four men die because they put their bodies between the
- 26:02Speaker 4: gunmen and their girlfriends. One of them is Jonathan Blunk,
- 26:07Speaker 4: He completely.
- 26:08Speaker 3: Protected me by telling me what I needed to do
- 26:10Speaker 3: and pushing me under that seat further.
- 26:12Speaker 18: He knew he was saving my life.
- 26:14Speaker 14: AJ loved to make people smile. No matter what mood
- 26:18Speaker 14: they were in, he would always find a way to
- 26:20Speaker 14: do it. He was a really amazing guy.
- 26:23Speaker 4: Jessica Redfield, age 24, the intern who dreamed of being
- 26:27Speaker 4: a national sports broadcaster, dies instantly from gunshot wounds.
- 26:33Speaker 17: And what about players coming in and out throughout the
- 26:35Speaker 17: entire season? You get guys that come down from the NHL.
- 26:37Speaker 4: You can have guys that are coming in from the Coyotes.
- 26:41Speaker 4: How does that change the dynamic.
- 26:51Speaker 3: Of the team?
- 26:55Speaker 4: At the University of Denver, there's a memorial to one
- 26:57Speaker 4: of their students, Alex Tevez, another of Holmes' victims. I'm
- 27:07Speaker 4: here to meet one of Alex's former tutors, Max Wachtel.
- 27:11Speaker 21: So it's the Neo personality inventory.
- 27:16Speaker 4: He's a leading forensic psychologist who assesses mental health in
- 27:19Speaker 4: cases of serious crime.
- 27:20Speaker 14: Nice to meet you.
- 27:22Speaker 15: Hi, nice to meet you too.
- 27:24Speaker 4: I want to find out what turns a bright college
- 27:26Speaker 4: boy like Holmes into a mass murderer.
- 27:29Speaker 21: A lot of times they tend to have some sort
- 27:32Speaker 21: of an undiagnosed mental illness. Usually it is something like
- 27:37Speaker 21: depression or bipolar disorder. It doesn't tend to be a
- 27:42Speaker 21: psychotic disorder like schizophrenia.
- 27:45Speaker 4: And why is it that they're often young men?
- 27:48Speaker 21: I think as a society in the U.S., males are
- 27:52Speaker 21: trained to be unemotional and to deal with any sort
- 27:57Speaker 21: of problems on their own without talking about it. That
- 28:01Speaker 21: ends up a lot of times leading to anger, frustration, rage,
- 28:08Speaker 21: thoughts of vengeance.
- 28:10Speaker 4: And is there anything different or special in James Holmes'
- 28:13Speaker 4: profile that would make him likely to be a killer
- 28:16Speaker 4: one day?
- 28:17Speaker 21: You know, honestly, no. Everything that we know about him
- 28:19Speaker 21: so far is that he was kind of a normal kid,
- 28:21Speaker 21: maybe a little bit quirky. I think he was smart.
- 28:24Speaker 21: He may have had a little bit of trouble relating
- 28:25Speaker 21: to other people because of that. But nothing out of
- 28:30Speaker 21: the ordinary. It seems like the kind of picture you
- 28:38Speaker 21: would see taken from a webcam.
- 28:40Speaker 4: Max also gives me his take on the few pictures
- 28:43Speaker 4: we have of James Holmes.
- 28:45Speaker 21: In retrospect, you see the cocky expression, the red hair.
- 28:49Speaker 21: It seems like a fairly normal kind of picture, though,
- 28:51Speaker 21: that you would see on Facebook or Twitter, I think.
- 28:55Speaker 21: This picture, he's got that raised eyebrow. He's got the
- 28:58Speaker 21: smirk on his face and that very intense stare. I
- 29:01Speaker 21: have to wonder what's going through his mind there. This
- 29:05Speaker 21: was a picture from an adult website he had joined
- 29:08Speaker 21: that he photoshopped this woman licking him. And it's certainly
- 29:13Speaker 21: a fairly disturbing image. He's got that intense look on
- 29:17Speaker 21: his face again. In court, the crazy hair, the jail scrubs.
- 29:24Speaker 21: just kind of blankly staring. His demeanor in court would
- 29:28Speaker 21: be referred to as having flat affect or flat emotion,
- 29:32Speaker 21: meaning just nothing there.
- 29:33Speaker 8: Emotionless.
- 29:34Speaker 11: Emotionless.
- 29:35Speaker 21: You do see this presentation in some people who have
- 29:39Speaker 21: mental illness. I think a lot of people are concerned
- 29:42Speaker 21: that he's faking this, and that's certainly possible.
- 29:47Speaker 4: In custody, Holmes apparently confesses to a scheme that bears
- 29:51Speaker 4: the hallmarks of his comic villain hero, the Joker. He's
- 29:55Speaker 4: booby-trapped his apartment with 10 gallons of petrol and 30 grenades,
- 29:59Speaker 4: Police also find a Batman mask. It's much easier to
- 30:14Speaker 4: buy guns in the US than it is back home.
- 30:17Speaker 4: But I want to find out just how easy. Jake
- 30:26Speaker 4: Myers runs Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo, not a place
- 30:30Speaker 4: used by Holmes.
- 30:32Speaker 7: Hi, how's it going?
- 30:33Speaker 3: Good, thank you.
- 30:34Speaker 15: Nice to meet you. My name's Amal.
- 30:35Speaker 8: I'm Jake.
- 30:36Speaker 12: How's it going?
- 30:37Speaker 4: If Barack Obama is looking for votes, he won't find
- 30:40Speaker 4: them here.
- 30:41Speaker 12: This one here holds 15 rounds of ammunition. A lot
- 30:43Speaker 12: of people like this for carry and conceal purposes because
- 30:47Speaker 12: it's really lightweight. It's made of basically plastic.
- 30:49Speaker 4: Aurora has had an effect here, but not quite what
- 30:52Speaker 4: I was expecting. Jake told me that in the days
- 30:55Speaker 4: after the shooting, sales had tripled.
- 30:57Speaker 12: The first couple days, I did see a real big
- 31:00Speaker 12: influx in gun sales, but what I mostly saw was
- 31:02Speaker 12: people wanting to take classes and learn how to use
- 31:05Speaker 12: a firearm or protect themselves. The day after the shooting, actually,
- 31:09Speaker 12: we had about 20 people lined up outside waiting to
- 31:12Speaker 12: take classes.
- 31:13Speaker 4: So if I wanted to buy a gun, how easy
- 31:16Speaker 4: would it be? Jake, today I've brought my passport, and
- 31:19Speaker 4: I kind of wanted to know if I could just
- 31:20Speaker 4: come here and buy a gun.
- 31:21Speaker 12: You wouldn't be able to use just your passport. You'd
- 31:23Speaker 12: have to have some sort of state identification card, either
- 31:27Speaker 12: ID or driver's license.
- 31:28Speaker 4: So if I was American and I had a driver's license,
- 31:31Speaker 4: I could just come into the store?
- 31:33Speaker 12: Yeah, you'd have to have a driver's license or identification
- 31:36Speaker 12: card from this state.
- 31:37Speaker 18: Okay.
- 31:38Speaker 12: And it's basically, in this state, we do what's called
- 31:41Speaker 12: an insta-check.
- 31:42Speaker 1: Okay.
- 31:43Speaker 12: It takes anywhere between about five minutes to an hour
- 31:45Speaker 12: to do a background check.
- 31:46Speaker 8: Okay, okay.
- 31:47Speaker 12: They do a federal background check on you to make
- 31:49Speaker 12: sure you have no felonies, you're not running from the
- 31:54Speaker 12: military or something like that. And then they send me
- 31:57Speaker 12: back either an approval or a denial. And if you
- 32:00Speaker 12: get approved, you walk out of the store that day
- 32:01Speaker 12: with a firearm.
- 32:07Speaker 4: But I find that not everyone in this state loves guns.
- 32:13Speaker 4: In April 1999, a school just 20 miles from Aurora
- 32:17Speaker 4: would become forever linked with gun crime. Its name? Columbine.
- 32:27Speaker 4: Twelve students and one teacher were killed when two high
- 32:30Speaker 4: school seniors carried out a carefully planned attack. It was
- 32:35Speaker 4: captured on the school's CCTV.
- 32:38Speaker 5: Jefferson County 9-1-1.
- 32:40Speaker 4: Yes, I am a teacher at Columbine High School.
- 32:42Speaker 9: There is a student here with a gun.
- 32:44Speaker 20: The school is in a panic, and I.
- 32:47Speaker 12: Am in the library.
- 32:48Speaker 15: The student's down under the table, kid!
- 32:51Speaker 18: Kid's under the table!
- 32:54Speaker 3: Who is the.
- 32:55Speaker 1: Student, ma'am?
- 32:56Speaker 12: I do not know who the student is.
- 32:57Speaker 15: Okay.
- 32:58Speaker 11: I saw a student outside.
- 32:59Speaker 4: I was in a hurry.
- 33:01Speaker 1: I was in a hurry.
- 33:09Speaker 4: I want to hear from young people who had picked
- 33:11Speaker 4: up their lives after such a terrible experience.
- 33:14Speaker 16: Hi, Lindsay.
- 33:15Speaker 9: Hi, Mom.
- 33:16Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Lindsay Benj survived the Columbine massacre, but two of her
- 33:21Speaker 4: close friends, Daniel Mouser and Rachel Scott, weren't so lucky.
- 33:25Speaker 2: The worst was finding out, you know, that you had
- 33:29Speaker 2: the friends who passed away, for me personally, Dan and Rachel, specifically.
- 33:35Speaker 9: And then.
- 33:36Speaker 2: kind of going through that, you know, there's that whole
- 33:38Speaker 2: denial phase where it just doesn't make sense and you
- 33:41Speaker 2: can't wrap your mind around it and then you're just
- 33:43Speaker 2: angry and frustrated and you're going through all the stages
- 33:50Speaker 2: of grief but you don't know how to handle it
- 33:53Speaker 2: and I think at that age you shouldn't know how
- 33:55Speaker 2: to handle it.
- 33:56Speaker 4: What do you think about what's just happened a week
- 33:58Speaker 4: ago in Aurora? I mean, it seems to me pretty similar.
- 34:04Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's... surreal. It's almost unfathomable that it
- 34:10Speaker 2: keeps happening. It's like somebody keeps hitting the rewind button
- 34:14Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're seeing shots of memorials
- 34:16Speaker 2: and shots of family members trying to find, you know,
- 34:20Speaker 2: their loved ones and it's just, it's absolutely devastating.
- 34:27Speaker 3: Why do you think it is?
- 34:28Speaker 1: Why here?
- 34:29Speaker 20: Why again?
- 34:30Speaker 2: I think because it can. Everybody wants to pinpoint one
- 34:34Speaker 2: specific reason why. And there's never just one single reason.
- 34:39Speaker 2: You know, guns are far too accessible in the States.
- 34:45Speaker 2: And unfortunately, it's become such a polarizing subject that anytime
- 34:51Speaker 2: somebody wants to have a reasonable, rational conversation about gun control...
- 34:56Speaker 2: It's like people stick their fingers in their ears and
- 34:58Speaker 2: they don't want to hear it.
- 35:03Speaker 4: I've come to see the memorial near the school. It's
- 35:09Speaker 4: now a tragic symbol of how little America has moved
- 35:12Speaker 4: on the guns issue in the last decade. I don't
- 35:16Speaker 4: really know if America's learning a lesson or not in
- 35:20Speaker 4: regards to guns. If you see this and then you
- 35:24Speaker 4: see Aurora and you see all the suffering and how
- 35:27Speaker 4: everyone is distraught, it's just not right. It's just not fair.
- 35:32Speaker 4: And I don't really know to what extent America will
- 35:35Speaker 4: ever change or is going to change. I really don't know.
- 35:43Speaker 4: Daniel Mouser's father, Tom, has spent the last decade campaigning
- 35:47Speaker 4: for tighter gun laws in memory of his son. He's
- 35:52Speaker 4: been shocked by the level of opposition and abuse he's faced.
- 35:58Speaker 7: I ask people to think how they would feel if
- 36:01Speaker 7: it happened to their child. You have to imagine that. Otherwise,
- 36:06Speaker 7: you won't really see what the impact of guns is.
- 36:10Speaker 7: In terms of being part of our culture, I think
- 36:12Speaker 7: there is a sense of, you know, that sense of
- 36:15Speaker 7: having a right to bear arms. But it can't be
- 36:20Speaker 7: an absolute right. There have to be restrictions. We have
- 36:24Speaker 7: to keep guns away from people who shouldn't have guns.
- 36:27Speaker 7: We shouldn't be giving this kind of firepower to people
- 36:30Speaker 7: who are mentally disturbed.
- 36:32Speaker 4: How difficult has it been to campaign?
- 36:34Speaker 7: It is very difficult. We're fighting a lobby, the gun lobby,
- 36:38Speaker 7: that is so powerful. It's one of the top two lobbies,
- 36:42Speaker 7: strongest lobbies, in Washington, D.C.
- 36:45Speaker 4: What kind of responses have you had from the more
- 36:47Speaker 4: extreme gun campaigners?
- 36:50Speaker 7: It's been difficult at times. You find yourself in America
- 36:53Speaker 7: when you are a gun control advocate, you find out quickly,
- 36:57Speaker 7: especially a very public one like me, that you'll face
- 37:00Speaker 7: some pretty strong and nasty opposition. I've had people write
- 37:03Speaker 7: to me and say, you're campaigning against guns on the
- 37:07Speaker 7: grave and the corpse of your son. That's the kind
- 37:11Speaker 7: of thing they say. I mean, it's despicable stuff, but
- 37:17Speaker 7: you know, I can't let that get to me. I
- 37:20Speaker 7: can't let them intimidate me. I have to keep doing
- 37:23Speaker 7: what I'm doing.
- 37:39Speaker 4: I find it confusing that despite so many gun deaths
- 37:42Speaker 4: in America, More than 31,000 in 2009 alone, guns seem
- 37:47Speaker 4: more popular than ever. So I've come back to Lead
- 37:50Speaker 4: Valley Gun Club, the place James Holmes tried to join,
- 37:54Speaker 4: to speak to the owner, a man who trains people
- 37:56Speaker 4: how to fire guns properly.
- 37:59Speaker 5: This is just a representation of some of the firearms
- 38:01Speaker 5: that are available in the United States.
- 38:03Speaker 4: This is the closest I've ever been to guns and firearms,
- 38:06Speaker 4: but there's more to come. Glenn believes the only way
- 38:10Speaker 4: I can really start to understand guns is to fire one. A.
- 38:14Speaker 5: 22 Western style of the original Western revolvers, but this
- 38:17Speaker 5: is a. 22, one of the firearms you will be firing.
- 38:20Speaker 5: This is a. 38 caliber revolver, which is a double-action revolver,
- 38:24Speaker 5: which is mainly the firearm that was used by most
- 38:26Speaker 5: police officers and people in law enforcement all the way
- 38:29Speaker 5: up until probably the mid to late 80s.
- 38:33Speaker 4: So if you just put that in and then fired,
- 38:35Speaker 4: it would literally.
- 38:37Speaker 16: If it.
- 38:37Speaker 5: Had ammo in it, yes, you'd put it in and
- 38:39Speaker 5: be able to pull the trigger. Mm-hmm. Any firearm, no
- 38:42Speaker 5: matter how small it is, has the capability. And then
- 38:45Speaker 5: the last one here, this is a 9mm pistol that's available.
- 38:52Speaker 5: This is the other firearm you'll be firing today that's
- 38:55Speaker 5: made by Smith & Wesson. There's basically three safety rules
- 39:00Speaker 5: that you follow at all times. The first one is
- 39:02Speaker 5: always keep a gun pointed in a safe direction.
- 39:04Speaker 8: You never.
- 39:05Speaker 5: Never allow the muzzle to point to anything that you
- 39:07Speaker 5: do not want destroyed. Number two rule is always keep
- 39:10Speaker 5: the finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire.
- 39:13Speaker 5: And then always keep the gun unloaded until ready for
- 39:15Speaker 5: use is the third main safety rule.
- 39:17Speaker 14: Well, I think I'm ready.
- 39:18Speaker 8: All right.
- 39:20Speaker 11: It'll be a lot of fun.
- 39:21Speaker 5: You'll find out after you fire it. It's a lot
- 39:23Speaker 5: of fun.
- 39:25Speaker 4: This club is for responsible gun owners and used by
- 39:28Speaker 4: many young, experienced shooters.
- 39:30Speaker 22: Usually we go up to the mountains where there's a
- 39:32Speaker 22: national forest where you're able to shoot as long as
- 39:35Speaker 22: you're away from the road with a proper backstop behind you.
- 39:39Speaker 22: It's just a pure competition sport for me. It's just
- 39:42Speaker 22: like with any other sport, basketball, football, it's just something
- 39:44Speaker 22: you want to get good at. So this gun right
- 39:47Speaker 22: here is mine. This is a Sig Sawyer 516. It's
- 39:50Speaker 22: a AR-15, which is the civilian version of the M16.
- 39:54Speaker 22: Since this is my rifle, I know it very well.
- 39:57Speaker 22: In light of those tragedies, I mean, I have many
- 39:59Speaker 22: friends my age, so the younger generation, as far as
- 40:02Speaker 22: how they feel about it, they definitely want to protect
- 40:04Speaker 22: themselves more. So if they're in that situation late at
- 40:07Speaker 22: night at a movie theater or something like that happens,
- 40:10Speaker 22: where usually their defense is off, they'd like to be
- 40:12Speaker 22: able to protect themselves. And a lot of people my
- 40:15Speaker 22: age have gone to get... concealed carry permits so they
- 40:19Speaker 22: can carry handguns or become more familiar with weapons so
- 40:22Speaker 22: they just feel confident with them.
- 40:24Speaker 8: Go ahead, just stay up on top. Go ahead.
- 40:28Speaker 4: Confidence is one thing I don't feel as I prepare
- 40:30Speaker 4: to fire a gun for the first time. But I
- 40:33Speaker 4: am confident I am in safe hands.
- 40:37Speaker 5: We're going to start with the 22. Full arm length out.
- 40:42Speaker 11: Push it all the way out.
- 40:43Speaker 5: See your sights now? Align that sight.
- 40:46Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 40:47Speaker 5: So it's on the thing.
- 40:48Speaker 8: Okay.
- 40:48Speaker 5: Now cock your hand.
- 40:49Speaker 10: Use this thumb.
- 40:49Speaker 5: Cock that hammer. Keep your finger back. Add pressure to
- 40:54Speaker 5: the trigger and it'll go off. Don't squeeze it. Just
- 40:56Speaker 5: start adding pressure. Let the gun surprise you. Steady, even pressure.
- 41:02Speaker 8: Okay.
- 41:02Speaker 9: Wow.
- 41:04Speaker 13: All right. Okay.
- 41:08Speaker 14: It's so heavy.
- 41:09Speaker 11: I like shaking.
- 41:10Speaker 5: Go ahead.
- 41:12Speaker 8: Steady.
- 41:13Speaker 5: That's it.
- 41:15Speaker 8: All right.
- 41:15Speaker 11: Range is hot.
- 41:17Speaker 22: The Second Amendment in the Constitution is for a civilian's
- 41:21Speaker 22: right to spare arms. And as far as that, we've
- 41:25Speaker 22: had guns since our nation's birth, since the American Revolution.
- 41:29Speaker 22: We're trained in them since then. So civilians definitely, as
- 41:34Speaker 22: part of the Constitution, have a right to do that.
- 41:37Speaker 4: Next for me, the more powerful 9mm Smith & Wesson semi-automatic.
- 41:42Speaker 5: Now you're going to have a long, hard squeeze on
- 41:44Speaker 5: this one the first time around.
- 41:45Speaker 3: Do I press hard?
- 41:46Speaker 5: Well, just start pressing. You'll feel it. Just keep adding pressure.
- 41:50Speaker 5: It'll start to pull the trigger in a minute. Don't
- 41:53Speaker 5: rush it.
- 41:53Speaker 8: Just keep pulling.
- 41:54Speaker 5: You almost had it.
- 41:56Speaker 12: Oh, my God.
- 41:57Speaker 5: It's a hard pull on this one the first time around.
- 42:00Speaker 8: Pull real hard.
- 42:03Speaker 3: Whoa.
- 42:04Speaker 12: Okay.
- 42:05Speaker 16: Whoa.
- 42:06Speaker 5: Now, figure out the trigger guard.
- 42:08Speaker 14: All right.
- 42:10Speaker 7: Whoa.
- 42:10Speaker 1: All right.
- 42:12Speaker 14: Whoa.
- 42:15Speaker 8: That's it. That's better, you hit a bullseye on that one.
- 42:20Speaker 5: No, that's where it's supposed to go.
- 42:23Speaker 8: That's better.
- 42:25Speaker 4: I guess it gives me a sense of power because
- 42:27Speaker 4: I know what it can do. It's a different experience,
- 42:30Speaker 4: may I say.
- 42:31Speaker 5: See where the holes are?
- 42:41Speaker 15: All of them in the center.
- 42:43Speaker 5: See the difference in size. These are the ones I fired.
- 42:45Speaker 5: That's the 9mm you shot.
- 42:47Speaker 3: Tiny.
- 42:47Speaker 5: There's the. 22 and quite a bit of difference in
- 42:50Speaker 5: size between the two of them.
- 42:52Speaker 20: I can fit my pinky finger in there.
- 42:55Speaker 4: People have talked about tightening gun laws. What's your view
- 42:59Speaker 4: on this?
- 43:01Speaker 5: My view on that is pretty simple. We had a
- 43:03Speaker 5: shooting here a while back, and the kids that did
- 43:06Speaker 5: it broke 22 gun laws in order to be able
- 43:09Speaker 5: to get the firearms to do it. So 23 is
- 43:12Speaker 5: going to stop them?
- 43:15Speaker 4: I think this has changed my view slightly, although I
- 43:17Speaker 4: still firmly believe that there should be more gun laws
- 43:21Speaker 4: enforced to prevent things like Columbine and like what's happened
- 43:25Speaker 4: in Aurora. But I do understand where they're coming from,
- 43:28Speaker 4: that this is part of their culture. Guns are part
- 43:30Speaker 4: of American society. And I think that a lot of
- 43:34Speaker 4: Americans feel safer having a gun, being able to protect themselves.
- 43:38Speaker 5: It's not the gun laws or the guns that caused
- 43:40Speaker 5: the problem to begin with. It's the nut behind it
- 43:42Speaker 5: that uses it. Police can't be every place. They never are.
- 43:46Speaker 5: They were at that theater prior to the shooting and
- 43:49Speaker 5: left because there was no problems.
- 44:01Speaker 4: Two days after the shootings, President Obama visits the hospital
- 44:05Speaker 4: where some of the victims are being treated. He's photographed
- 44:10Speaker 4: with eyewitness Stephanie Davis. She's saved the life of her friend,
- 44:14Speaker 4: Ali Young, who'd been hit in the neck by Holmes.
- 44:20Speaker 4: With the presidential elections only a few months away, I
- 44:23Speaker 4: wonder how big a role the gun debate is playing
- 44:26Speaker 4: on the campaign trail.
- 44:29Speaker 3: Answer?
- 44:30Speaker 4: Next to none. I've been having a look at several
- 44:33Speaker 4: newspapers and I've looked online as well. All the politicians
- 44:38Speaker 4: seem to have other things to speak about. We have
- 44:41Speaker 4: Mitt Romney speaking about Israel. There's a lot about Obama
- 44:45Speaker 4: here trying to intensify a campaign, heading into the final stretch.
- 44:49Speaker 4: None of them really mention gun control or guns, which
- 44:53Speaker 4: I find really surprising, especially at this time and after
- 44:57Speaker 4: what's just happened in Aurora. But I still think politicians
- 45:02Speaker 4: should be talking about guns.
- 45:03Speaker 2: The emergency services called after a gunman started shooting at
- 45:07Speaker 2: the congregation.
- 45:08Speaker 4: A week into my trip, there's news of another massacre.
- 45:12Speaker 4: Over 700 miles away in Milwaukee, once again, I am
- 45:17Speaker 4: forced to question my views. I've just been watching BBC
- 45:20Speaker 4: World News where seven people have been killed in Wisconsin
- 45:23Speaker 4: in a Sikh temple. I've been here for seven days
- 45:26Speaker 4: now in Aurora, and this is the second massacre killing
- 45:29Speaker 4: that's been going on. Clearly there must be something wrong
- 45:34Speaker 4: in the U.S. in regards to gun control. And I'm
- 45:38Speaker 4: pretty surprised that no one's really speaking about it. So
- 45:42Speaker 4: why is it that gun control seems to be the
- 45:44Speaker 4: one issue politicians won't touch?
- 45:47Speaker 21: That would be political suicide. In the U.S., in an
- 45:53Speaker 21: election year, when you're running for president.
- 45:56Speaker 1: You don't.
- 45:56Speaker 21: Say anything bad about guns. If Mitt Romney suggested some
- 46:00Speaker 21: sort of gun control, he would no longer be the
- 46:03Speaker 21: Republican nominee. I mean, the people would freak out and
- 46:06Speaker 21: he would be gone. President Obama I don't think would
- 46:09Speaker 21: get as much political fallout from it directly, but a
- 46:12Speaker 21: lot of Obama's political supporters in more conservative states, more
- 46:16Speaker 21: conservative districts, there's absolutely no way that they would get
- 46:19Speaker 21: reelected if he were to say something about that.
- 46:25Speaker 4: So maybe we just have to press the politicians. A
- 46:29Speaker 4: few days later, it looks like I might get a chance.
- 46:33Speaker 4: With tight security, President Obama makes a second visit to Denver.
- 46:40Speaker 4: I decided this was one party I couldn't miss. Like
- 46:45Speaker 4: all American political rallies these days, the audience is made
- 46:48Speaker 4: up of hand-picked supporters.
- 46:50Speaker 11: As many of you know, I was in Aurora to
- 46:52Speaker 11: meet those who lost loved ones during that terrible shooting. Unfortunately,
- 46:56Speaker 11: since that time, we've had another tragedy in Oak Creek, Wisconsin,
- 47:02Speaker 11: where six members of our community were killed as they
- 47:06Speaker 11: entered into a house of worship. And so I think
- 47:10Speaker 11: we can all acknowledge we've got to put an end
- 47:13Speaker 11: to this kind of senseless violence.
- 47:16Speaker 4: A worthwhile aim, but he doesn't say anything about guns.
- 47:21Speaker 4: It's almost as though guns didn't play any part in
- 47:23Speaker 4: the Aurora killings. This is a pretty staged managed affair.
- 47:40Speaker 4: And try as I might, I don't get a chance
- 47:42Speaker 4: to question the top man. Yeah, unfortunately, we won't be
- 47:46Speaker 4: able to get a word with him, but I would
- 47:47Speaker 4: have loved to ask him what he thinks about guns
- 47:50Speaker 4: and gun control and if anything's going to change or
- 47:52Speaker 4: if anything's going.
- 47:53Speaker 11: To be done.
- 47:53Speaker 15: I mean, he did mention Aurora and Wisconsin, but, you know,
- 47:58Speaker 15: he never mentioned what's going to happen with the guns.
- 48:10Speaker 4: The politicians may not want to talk about guns, But
- 48:13Speaker 4: the authorities have responded, and this is how.
- 48:16Speaker 13: If you were ever to find yourself in the middle
- 48:18Speaker 13: of an active shooter event, your survival may depend on
- 48:22Speaker 13: whether or not you have a plan.
- 48:24Speaker 4: This safety video from the City of Houston Mayor's Office
- 48:27Speaker 4: advises the public on how to deal with an armed intruder.
- 48:31Speaker 13: There are three things you could do that make a difference.
- 48:35Speaker 15: Run.
- 48:36Speaker 3: Hide.
- 48:38Speaker 11: Fight.
- 48:39Speaker 4: In Texas, they clearly think a gunman on the loose
- 48:42Speaker 4: is a possibility worth planning for.
- 48:44Speaker 13: Encourage others to leave with you, but don't let them
- 48:47Speaker 13: slow you down with indecision.
- 48:50Speaker 4: They're clearly stating that, you know, the right to bear
- 48:53Speaker 4: arms is something that they're going to keep in the
- 48:55Speaker 4: United States. Therefore, we should do other things in order
- 49:00Speaker 4: to stay protected. But guns are going to be there anyway,
- 49:03Speaker 4: so we better do something in order to save your life,
- 49:06Speaker 4: which is either run, hide or fight. Earlier this week,
- 49:19Speaker 4: there's more confirmed. that getting caught up in a shooting
- 49:22Speaker 4: is a real possibility. Three people are shot dead on
- 49:26Speaker 4: a university campus 100 miles north of Houston.
- 49:40Speaker 11: People versus James Holmes, 12CR1522, appearances please.
- 49:46Speaker 4: Whilst I'm in Denver, James Holmes makes his second appearance
- 49:49Speaker 4: in court. If he's found guilty, what should happen to him?
- 49:55Speaker 4: Some people have called for capital punishment. Colorado is one
- 50:09Speaker 4: of the US states where the death penalty is still legal, actually,
- 50:12Speaker 4: although the last person who was sentenced was 15 years ago.
- 50:19Speaker 4: I'm heading out of Denver, 100 miles northeast of the city,
- 50:23Speaker 4: to see the place where many of the state's serious
- 50:26Speaker 4: offenders are held. This is Sterling Correctional Facility, Colorado's biggest
- 50:35Speaker 4: high security prison. It's a sobering sight. There's three men
- 50:42Speaker 4: in that maximum security prison on death row. Could James
- 50:49Speaker 4: Holmes be joining them? If convicted, could he be sentenced
- 50:53Speaker 4: to death? It's a chilling thought. If James Holmes does
- 51:00Speaker 4: get sentenced, he might be facing the lethal injection. And
- 51:06Speaker 4: is that something that survivors of the dreadful night in
- 51:09Speaker 4: Aurora believe should happen?
- 51:12Speaker 9: Nope.
- 51:14Speaker 3: Not that I'm against the death penalty, but let's not
- 51:17Speaker 3: make life easy for this man. He hasn't made life
- 51:19Speaker 3: easy for very many people. Honestly, I would put him
- 51:23Speaker 3: in general population in jail and say fend for yourself,
- 51:26Speaker 3: figure it out.
- 51:28Speaker 8: I heard a lot of people say that they'd prefer
- 51:30Speaker 8: it if he suffered in jail, rot in a hole
- 51:33Speaker 8: in a cell. My personal perspective is... To be honest,
- 51:41Speaker 8: I don't know what to do.
- 51:42Speaker 14: It really all comes down to how much damage he's
- 51:47Speaker 14: caused and how much punishment he should get. But for me,
- 51:56Speaker 14: I think he should definitely get the death penalty.
- 52:02Speaker 1: I don't know. I have a couple of little things
- 52:07Speaker 1: going on in my head. Part of me wonders if
- 52:11Speaker 1: he wanted to.
- 52:11Speaker 5: Be dead, he'd.
- 52:14Speaker 1: Have shot himself. So part of me says I want
- 52:17Speaker 1: him to fry. just because I know that's not what
- 52:20Speaker 1: he wants. But the other part of me hopes and
- 52:27Speaker 1: prays that God fill his heart with a bunch of
- 52:30Speaker 1: guilt and that he has to wake up in a
- 52:33Speaker 1: 4x4 cell every day and deal with himself and live
- 52:35Speaker 1: with it. I think the death penalty is an easy
- 52:38Speaker 1: way out. It's like going to sleep before surgery.
- 52:40Speaker 4: It's peaceful.
- 52:41Speaker 1: He doesn't deserve a peaceful death.
- 52:44Speaker 4: And that's how I feel.
- 52:46Speaker 1: My friends didn't get one.
- 52:49Speaker 4: Why should he? In the days after the shootings, the
- 53:00Speaker 4: people of Aurora come together to offer prayers for the
- 53:03Speaker 4: 12 lives that have been lost.
- 53:06Speaker 6: Tonight we come together to pray and to be with
- 53:09Speaker 6: one another. Some of us are survivors, family members, or
- 53:16Speaker 6: friends of those who suffered through this senseless and evil
- 53:21Speaker 6: act of violence.
- 53:27Speaker 4: It's the first step toward rebuilding a community that has
- 53:30Speaker 4: been shattered by that terrible night. But it will be
- 53:33Speaker 4: a long road.
- 53:34Speaker 3: I'm going to do this and I'm going to get
- 53:42Speaker 3: through this. But it's going to be hard forever. I'm
- 53:46Speaker 3: going to be reminded of this.
- 53:49Speaker 14: I'm slowly getting better by the days, but I know
- 53:52Speaker 14: it will come back and haunt me for the rest
- 53:55Speaker 14: of my life.
- 53:59Speaker 4: Others are still coming to terms, not just with the
- 54:02Speaker 4: horror of what they saw, but also with the feelings
- 54:05Speaker 4: of guilt that they survived and some of their friends didn't.
- 54:10Speaker 1: I feel a little bit bad for not helping people
- 54:13Speaker 1: in there, but.
- 54:15Speaker 4: I was scared. I was scared. I've been in Colorado
- 54:51Speaker 4: for two weeks, but my journey is now coming to
- 54:54Speaker 4: an end. Before I leave for London, I want to
- 54:59Speaker 4: take one last look at the memorial and pay my
- 55:02Speaker 4: last respects to the 12 people who died. It's also
- 55:11Speaker 4: a chance to reflect on what my journey has taught me. Well,
- 55:18Speaker 4: guns are something that, you know, Americans and people in
- 55:22Speaker 4: Colorado believe are part of their right, and they have
- 55:26Speaker 4: the right to bear arms. So it's something that they're
- 55:28Speaker 4: not going to let go so easily. It's something ingrained
- 55:31Speaker 4: in their culture. I don't think politicians are willing to
- 55:37Speaker 4: even start with this conversation. You know, it's something that
- 55:40Speaker 4: they've completely blanked. But attitudes for me have to change
- 55:45Speaker 4: in the people. I've realized here, I mean, it's almost
- 55:51Speaker 4: something like America equals guns, and in order to take
- 55:54Speaker 4: that away, it's no longer America, they feel, so it's
- 55:58Speaker 4: gonna be very, very hard. I don't think it will change.
- 56:03Speaker 4: My big fear is that Aurora will change nothing, that
- 56:07Speaker 4: in a year's time, I'll be back, maybe in another
- 56:10Speaker 4: state or another city, reporting on another massacre.
- 56:34Speaker 11: The people we lost in Aurora loved, and they were loved.
- 56:40Speaker 11: They were mothers and fathers. They were husbands and wives,
- 56:45Speaker 11: sisters and brothers. sons and daughters, friends and neighbors. They
- 56:52Speaker 11: had hopes for the future, and they had dreams that
- 56:56Speaker 11: were not yet fulfilled. Life is very fragile. Our time
- 57:01Speaker 11: here is limited, and it is precious.