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Donald Trump comes for Gayle King + Does Kamala have a responsibility to remain political? ++ BET suspends award shows? · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Toys.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
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  Speaker 2: and everybody.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren
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  Speaker 1: came in.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is another
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  Speaker 2: episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa. This is
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  Speaker 2: your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes we do the exclusives here and all of the
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  Speaker 2: conversations that shake the room. Now in this episode of
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  Speaker 2: the Latest, getting right on into some things, because we
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  Speaker 2: got some places to go and some things to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna start off with more talk show news, talk show,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: And y'all know we cover everything here at the Latest.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not like a heavy political politic conversation er conversation
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  Speaker 2: or I don't know is that a word. Basically, I
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  Speaker 2: don't always talk about politics here, and you guys know
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  Speaker 2: that it's more like pop culture trending topics. But more
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  Speaker 2: lately Trump been coming on over to our side, so
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  Speaker 2: we've been talking about him here.
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  Speaker 1: On the Latest.
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  Speaker 2: Last episode, we talked a bit about Donald Trump, because
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  Speaker 2: not even a bit. We took the whole episode and
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  Speaker 2: we talked about Donald Trump. In his spat with Charlemagne.
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  Speaker 2: Now today I'm back again with another one. Because listen,
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  Speaker 2: Trump is never scared. Okay, Trump is always out here
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  Speaker 2: shooting his shot at all of the outraging and just
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  Speaker 2: throwing the pot. So Trump tweeted out Gil's king career, sorry,
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  Speaker 2: not tweeted. Let me get that right, because remember Trump,
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  Speaker 2: he got taken off of X then when he came back,
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  Speaker 2: he uses it. But like he really used. He really
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  Speaker 2: uses his platform, truth social the most. So Trump posting
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  Speaker 2: on truth Social. Gail King's career is over. She should
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  Speaker 2: have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
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  Speaker 2: the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strengths.
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  Speaker 2: And he posted this because he was actually reposting and
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  Speaker 2: bringing light to a New York Post article. This New
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  Speaker 2: York Post article was exclusive that the New York Post did,
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  Speaker 2: and that actually drives earlier today where they're reporting based
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  Speaker 2: on sources, that Gail King's career at CBS doing CBS
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  Speaker 2: Mornings is looking murky. And the reason why they're saying
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  Speaker 2: that this is happening, according to their source, is because
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  Speaker 2: they're reporting that the higher ups at the network want
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  Speaker 2: to move away from polarizing coverage. Basically, you know, coverage
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  Speaker 2: that is too woke according to what you know, Trump
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  Speaker 2: and the Trump followers esque will deem as woke.
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  Speaker 1: So, for instance, one of.
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  Speaker 2: The examples that they give here in the article is
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  Speaker 2: that one of the winners from RuPaul's Drag Race was
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  Speaker 2: on CBS Mornings with Gail King and the winner his
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  Speaker 2: name is Bob the Drag Queen. Now, he was publicizing
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  Speaker 2: his first novel, Harriet Tubman Live in concert, right, so
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  Speaker 2: he came on the show to do so. According to
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  Speaker 2: the New York Posts, the CBS Morning's website described the
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  Speaker 2: book as a gender bending story where the historic icon
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  Speaker 2: appears in modern day America to tell her story through
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  Speaker 2: a hip hop album. Now, this is a story that
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  Speaker 2: you know, was previously reported by the Post, but they're
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  Speaker 2: just using it to insert it into this the show.
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  Speaker 2: An example of what the network execs are trying to
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  Speaker 2: get away from. So they point out this episode of
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  Speaker 2: the show because they have a quote and here from
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  Speaker 2: another source of the New York Post does that alleges
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  Speaker 2: that the source told the New York Post that the
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  Speaker 2: audience of CBS Mornings does not want woke. They do
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  Speaker 2: not like progressive and provocative bookings. Now we fast forward
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  Speaker 2: to them pointing to Bob the drag Queen from RuPaul's
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  Speaker 2: Jagged Race, who was on the show promoting a book
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  Speaker 2: about Harriet Tubman and Harriet Tubman finding herself in modern
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  Speaker 2: day time and just telling her story through hip hop.
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  Speaker 2: So they're like, they're talking about things that we don't want.
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  Speaker 2: We know that, you know, they are very even when
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  Speaker 2: they do have political conversations and the guests that they
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  Speaker 2: bring on these political conversations, and the guests do not
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  Speaker 2: run away from being very vocal about how they feel
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  Speaker 2: about President Trump, agreeing or not. And I'm sure this
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  Speaker 2: source or whoever, anybody that's deeming CBS Mornings as a
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  Speaker 2: woke platform would say that a lot of the guests
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  Speaker 2: there are normally critical or President Trump. But you got
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  Speaker 2: to see the pattern that's going on here right now
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  Speaker 2: with Stephen Colbert in the Late Show. When that happened,
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  Speaker 2: CBS pointed to money finances. They talk numbers with Gail
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  Speaker 2: King here in this New York Post article, And again,
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  Speaker 2: all of this stuff from the New York Post is sourced, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not directly coming from anyone a CBS declined
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  Speaker 2: to comment to The New York Post when The New
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  Speaker 2: York Post reached out on this article, although they did
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  Speaker 2: comment on Stephen Colbert's cancelation of his show. The New
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  Speaker 2: York Post points out in this article they alleged that
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  Speaker 2: in the past three weeks, Gail King and her co
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  Speaker 2: host lost between twenty percent and thirty percent of their
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  Speaker 2: audience versus last year, and the advertiser coveted twenty five
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  Speaker 2: to fifty four year old demographic according to Nielsen and
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  Speaker 2: Nielsen for those of you guys who don't know, it's
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  Speaker 2: just a site or it's a data base that is
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be, you know, very accurate when collecting numbers
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  Speaker 2: as far as ratings and people and counts.
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  Speaker 1: So they're pointing to a study by Nielsen.
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  Speaker 2: They do not say when this study was last updated,
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  Speaker 2: but they do use it in this article, which again
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  Speaker 2: came out earlier today.
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  Speaker 1: It is August fifth, five.
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  Speaker 2: And then they go into mentioning that Gail King recently
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  Speaker 2: signed an extension for between thirteen million dollars and fifteen
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  Speaker 2: million dollars of her contract that runs through next May.
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  Speaker 2: According to this well placed source that they're pinning this
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  Speaker 2: whole report on Now. They also point out and like
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  Speaker 2: I said, y'all are seeing a pattern here. They also
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  Speaker 2: point out that that is the same month that CBS
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  Speaker 2: plans to pull the plug on the Late Night Show
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  Speaker 2: with Stephen Colbert. And then once this report comes out,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump then goes over to Truth Social amplifies it,
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  Speaker 2: and he says Gail King's career is over. She should
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  Speaker 2: have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had
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  Speaker 2: the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strength. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has also come out about Kimmel. He tweeted
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  Speaker 2: when Colbert's show was announced to have been canceled. He
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  Speaker 2: has been very vocal against I mean, look, we just
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  Speaker 2: talked about him having the conversation in the back and
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  Speaker 2: forth that he had with Charlemagne because of Charlemage's apparents
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  Speaker 2: on Fox News with Donald Trump's daughter in law Laura Trump.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta see the pattern here. I don't even have
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  Speaker 2: to say it. You see the pattern here. And I
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  Speaker 2: think at this point for me, just in watching all
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  Speaker 2: of this, I was telling a friend the other day
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  Speaker 2: when all the Charlemagne stuff happened, and I've said this
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  Speaker 2: to Charlemagne too, even prior to the Trump situation, Like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because breakfast Club, I don't know about any
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  Speaker 2: other platform. I know about Breakfast Club because I worked there,
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  Speaker 2: but because Breakfast Club has a variety of opinions, Like
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  Speaker 2: we have conversations with Laura Trump, we have conversations with
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  Speaker 2: people that might not agree with what I personally agree with,
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  Speaker 2: Like I don't agree with a lot of the things,
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  Speaker 2: the majority of the things, honestly, the whole lifestyle of
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump for the most part. But I'm never opposed
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  Speaker 2: to have a conversation with people who are across the table.
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  Speaker 2: I also feel like, and I agree with the sentiment
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  Speaker 2: of the president is the president at the time, and
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  Speaker 2: you just do whatever you can best to make sure
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  Speaker 2: that that person in that office is, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: the best face and ambassador for what it is that
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  Speaker 2: the people need, no matter where do people sit on
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  Speaker 2: whatever side of the table.
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  Speaker 1: But it's getting scared, it's getting real tricky out here.
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  Speaker 2: And as a person in the media who you know,
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  Speaker 2: y'all know me, like, I like to.
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  Speaker 1: Lean toward truth.
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  Speaker 2: If I can't figure out who the source is or
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  Speaker 2: source it myself or find it to be fact myself,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like to touch it. I'm very careful about
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  Speaker 2: certain things, but I think it's getting scared because it's like,
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  Speaker 2: if you have an opinion at all, it seems like
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  Speaker 2: that leans away from what our current administration believes should
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  Speaker 2: be the conversation it should be done.
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  Speaker 1: It gets tough out here for you.
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  Speaker 2: And I will say, you know with Gail King even
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  Speaker 2: having to tell somebody in the media space like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: be careful about you having an honest opinion about something now.
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  Speaker 2: Defamation and things of that nature are completely different because
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  Speaker 2: legally there are certain things that you just can and
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  Speaker 2: can't do when you are in this space, because your
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  Speaker 2: audience is counting on you to be transparent, to be
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  Speaker 2: as neutral as you can be, or to be able
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  Speaker 2: to define when you're not doing certain things, like when
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  Speaker 2: you're giving your opinion about something and you want it
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  Speaker 2: to be known as your opinion, your audience trusts that
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  Speaker 2: you will give your opinion in a way that they
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  Speaker 2: know it's an opinion versus something that they know or
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  Speaker 2: can take and repeat as facts.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But just being able to say how you feel
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  Speaker 1: and not agreeing being.
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  Speaker 2: Something that makes you think, yo, will I have a
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  Speaker 2: job again? It is getting so scary, and it seems
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  Speaker 2: like it's such a pattern. It's like stories break about,
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  Speaker 2: like ratings and show's not doing well, and then Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump comes and he amplifies those stories, and he has
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  Speaker 2: something to say about what you're doing, how you're doing it,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and listen, this is not new. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has always operated in the space as more
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  Speaker 2: of like a celebrity in chief, so he's paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to what's happening. He's responding to what's happening. But now
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  Speaker 2: it's starting to result in things not being there anymore,
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  Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert's show not being there anymore, joy read not
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  Speaker 2: being on MSNBC anymore. Those things get scary a bit,
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  Speaker 2: especially when you're sitting in my position. I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: not hello, I'm new here. Just begin building, Please don't
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  Speaker 2: tear down everything. I need somewhere to be at, you
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  Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was watching Kamala Harris
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  Speaker 2: she did speaking to Stephen Colbert. Kamala Harris is Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Colbert's show, The Late Show, and it's her first interview
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  Speaker 2: since losing the presidency. And now she has this new book,
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  Speaker 2: One hundred and seven Days, which talks about the time
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  Speaker 2: that she had to run for president.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a very good interview.
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  Speaker 2: It was an interview about everything from what she's been
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  Speaker 2: doing now to where her plans are moving forward. And
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  Speaker 2: the news had come out that she did not plan
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  Speaker 2: to run for governor and that, you know, she had
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  Speaker 2: this book coming out, and then she goes on Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Colbert and she says this, I.
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  Speaker 3: Believe, and I always believed that as fragile as our
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  Speaker 3: democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend
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  Speaker 3: our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that
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  Speaker 3: they're not as strong as they need to be. And
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  Speaker 3: I just don't want.
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  Speaker 1: To for now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to go back in the system. I
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  Speaker 3: want to travel the country. I want to listen to people.
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk with people, and I don't want
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  Speaker 3: it to be transactional where I'm asking for their vote. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I don't agree with Kamala at all. I understand. I
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  Speaker 2: think what she's trying to say. I think what she's
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  Speaker 2: trying to say is that and I feel like it's
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  Speaker 2: a cover up. To be honest with you, I'll get
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  Speaker 2: to that. I think what she's trying to say is
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  Speaker 2: that you don't have to be a president, a governor,
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  Speaker 2: a mayor, you know, an elected official to be able
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  Speaker 2: to go out in your community, touch people, work for change,
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  Speaker 2: do things that affect people, do things that get changed,
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  Speaker 2: do things that get people what they need.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where she wants to live now. Like she doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: She's not running away from the smoke, but she's approaching
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  Speaker 2: the smoke differently. You know, she's not tripping off and
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  Speaker 2: not being an elected official and all of the things
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  Speaker 2: that come with it. And she talked about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because when Steven Colbert opened interview, the first thing he
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  Speaker 2: asked her was, you know, have you got some sleep?
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Let's take listen to her answer. It's
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  Speaker 1: nice to see you again. It's great to be First
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  Speaker 1: of all, you look rested. Yeah, I'm happy for you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you you doing wa Oh, I'm fine. I'll get
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  Speaker 1: fenty arrest in June. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So they hear her say that, right, She's had some
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  Speaker 2: time to reflect and I guess really put into you know,
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  Speaker 2: and really prioritize what's important for her at this point
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  Speaker 2: in her life, whether that's being with family, getting to
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  Speaker 2: spend time with her husband, her nieces, who she talks
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  Speaker 2: so much about and just not being in the eye
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  Speaker 2: of all of the scrutiny. Like I'm thinking about Gail King,
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Joy read right, and I mean, Stephen
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  Speaker 2: Colbert is unfortunate that his show is going off air,
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  Speaker 2: especially because it doesn't make any sense and it feels
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  Speaker 2: like censoring. But I'm thinking about these black women in
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  Speaker 2: this space because I can identify with them. Of course
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  Speaker 2: I can, because I'm a black woman in a media space.
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  Speaker 2: I can identify with them a lot differently. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the first things I thought about was, man like,
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  Speaker 2: you have to deal with people caring about what you wear,
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  Speaker 2: how you wear, what's your hair look like, what's your
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  Speaker 2: makeup look like?
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  Speaker 1: Are you overdressed? Are you underdressed?
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  Speaker 2: The body type, what language you use, what language you
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  Speaker 2: don't use, are you smiling? Who are you standing next to?
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  Speaker 2: Who's this man that you're seting next to? Are you
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  Speaker 2: dating him? Are you like? There's so many things that
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  Speaker 2: just women in general have to deal with it, especially
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  Speaker 2: when you're in a spotlight. And then Black women who
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  Speaker 2: aren't afraid to speak out when they feel a way
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  Speaker 2: about something, when they don't agree with something, who aren't
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  Speaker 2: afraid to stand next to presidential candidates and now on
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  Speaker 2: top of all the things that society and just people
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  Speaker 2: in general, and I feel like, you know, talking about
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  Speaker 2: being WHOA. I don't want to sound who either, because
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  Speaker 2: that's not my thing. I just like to I just
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  Speaker 2: like to say how I feel, and how I feel
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  Speaker 2: right now is like Yo, it's so much other things
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  Speaker 2: that you deal with on a day to day trying
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  Speaker 2: to figure out life, career and all the things. And
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  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm of course a lot younger
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  Speaker 2: than Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris has had an amazing career.
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  Speaker 2: She you know, is living her life. She's not complaining
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  Speaker 2: about things. That's not what this that clip was. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about all of the microaggressions and just
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  Speaker 2: the different silent battles that she's had to face and
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  Speaker 2: will honestly continue to have to face for the rest
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  Speaker 2: of her life. Because she's Kamala Harris, who was once
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  Speaker 2: vice president and she's a black woman vice president and
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  Speaker 2: she ran for the presidency and she did not win it,
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  Speaker 2: and she would have been the first black woman president
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  Speaker 2: and just all these things right that she's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to answer and speak to and never be able
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  Speaker 2: to get around for the rest of her life. That
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  Speaker 2: she then has to couple with everything that, like she
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  Speaker 2: was just once you come out the wound and you
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  Speaker 2: walk a baby, your first flick of the hair as
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  Speaker 2: a black woman, you got to learn how to deal
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  Speaker 2: with issue and society and the people. So then you
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  Speaker 2: bring all this extra spotlight and you know, politics is
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  Speaker 2: such a everything to be in and I just can't imagine.
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  Speaker 2: So I understand where she's coming from, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: agree with her. I don't feel like I do feel
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  Speaker 2: like everybody has a place in change, but I do
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  Speaker 2: feel like there are certain people who get the privilege
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  Speaker 2: or the honor to have, you know, elected official status,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think that those people should ever back
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  Speaker 2: away from trying. And it sounds to me like, and listen,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'm reading in between the lines here, y'all. Let
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  Speaker 2: me know what y'all took from it. Get in the comments,
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  Speaker 2: get outside, in the tweets, in the streets, let me know,
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  Speaker 2: be outside, we outside, we outside.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, every other page, I'm loring the roads everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: How you guys felt, it sounded to me like as
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  Speaker 2: well rested as she said that she was, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: as much as she's probably been able to, you know,
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  Speaker 2: prioritize and just think about what's important and what she
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  Speaker 2: don't want to deal with no more in her life. Man,
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  Speaker 2: I know that feeling in her life. I think that
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  Speaker 2: there's a responsibility that you can't ever escape as a
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  Speaker 2: black person. And I think that she sounds tired still,
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  Speaker 2: Like she's tired. She sounds fed up, but she's making
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  Speaker 2: it look good. She's making it sound good. And we
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  Speaker 2: as black women do that all the time. Man, We
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  Speaker 2: do that all the time, and we're so good at
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  Speaker 2: it because for so so long, and you know, different generations,
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  Speaker 2: like you're literally taught that, like you're taught to turn
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  Speaker 2: the house into a home, you're taught to nurture, you're
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  Speaker 2: taught to do so much that pours into other people
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  Speaker 2: and other things.
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  Speaker 1: And when I just told y'all, like man.
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  Speaker 2: I felt that, like she's probably just tired of the bullshit. Like,
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  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest with y'all, I get it. But
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  Speaker 2: I think we need her in the position, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that I don't understand where her purpose goes from here.
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  Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with you, I think.
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  Speaker 2: That no matter how tired she might feel right now,
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  Speaker 2: no matter what happened in that office, no matter you know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure she's tided of being asked about why she
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  Speaker 2: didn't tell the truth about President Biden and all the things.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: No matter how much that is getting on your nerves.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Your purpose is your purpose, and I just don't see
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: her getting away from public service. I can't, and I
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: honestly think we need people like Kamala Harris in public service,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: but we need people like Kamala Harris in a way
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: where Kamala Harris is able to be the person that
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: we watching these interviews.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Who yo.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: When Kamala Harris hat down with Oprah during her presidential campaign,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, if she could be like this everywhere
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: she went, we good, especially in the White House. Like
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: we good because this is what we wanted from her
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: in the White House when we voted for Biden. I
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: voted for Biden because Kamala Harris was the VP on
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: the ticket and I thought that she'd be able to
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: keep things in check. I don't feel like she was
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: empowered the way that she should have been. And I mean,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: people say, well, she's just vice president, but we all
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: know what the We know what it was given, we
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: know why we went so hard for Biden in that election,
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: and I really don't think she was empowered the way
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: that she should have. I felt like she was put
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: in the shadow of everything Biden nomics when she went
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: to run, and I feel like by her not being
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: able to come out and just really speak how she
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: wants to speak and do what she wants to do
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: and tell the truth and have to be loyal to
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, which again I'm not blaming her for it,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: because as a black woman, I understand that, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: sometimes even going against the even when you want to
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: go up against the fire and stick it out, continue
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to be in presidential offices and all these things and
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: all the things of the nature, you don't have the
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: resources you're supposed to have to do so to be
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: able to actually do it where it's effective and it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: not just a freaking fight and mental tirade of like
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: you're breaking yourself down every single day. So I understand
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: her and I get where she's coming from, but I
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: don't agree that she can be as impactful now.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: She can have impact, don't get me wrong, And I'm not.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Taking away from what she'll do, because look, I'm not
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: out here public serving every single day, so people that are,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's not even my place to kind
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: of like you're no critique or talk about as much.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: But and just you know, for take of this conversation,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: I think we need hers, Like she talked about having
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: people in certain places when it comes to this whole
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: government thing, this whole politic thing, I think we need
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: her inside of the system that she says she don't
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: want to be a part of. For a little minute,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: we need her there for sure. And lastly, up in
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: the latest, I was reading a article on my way
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: over to film the show today because Scott Mills from
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: BEET sat down with Billboard and I'm pulling up the
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: article right now. When we talk about resources, people always
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: have a conversation around BT and what BT does with
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: what they do well, what they don't do well, what
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: we need, what we should see, all of the things.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: So Scott Mills has been doing some interviews. BT is
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: celebrating forty five years of the network and being one
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: of the leading black media platforms. So Scott Mills, the
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: CEO at BET, you know, sat down with Billboard to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: talk about a pledge to continue to always be a
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: leading media platform for black people and four Black Things
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: and Black content. Now, during this interview, the journalist acts,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Scott Mills, can you confirm the chatter that two of
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the annual shows and BT Awards franchise, the Soul Trained
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Awards, So Salt Train Awards and it's separately,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: the BT Hip Hop Awards are no longer going to
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: be presented.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So they're done? Are they done or not?
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And he says it's less about them being no longer
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: and more about our team having to reimagine them for
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: this changing media landscape that we find ourselves in. I
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: think that we're going to see more people taking franchises
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and saying this might have started on linear television, but
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: now I'm gonna move it to another space. Do I
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: move it to streaming or do I make it another platform?
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: So for BT linear, we have suspended the Soul Train
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Awards. Show beet is announcing that they
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: have suspended the BT Hip Hop Awards and the BT
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Soul trend of the wards. Y'all list is insane because
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: suspend it is suspended, like doesn't mean indefinite. But I
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: do think that there is something to having to take
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it off of TV, to have to figure out what
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: to do with it, versus it being such a vehicle
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: and be built up enough where it stays on linear
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: until you make that transition just because you wanted to
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: move forward strong to match where we are right now,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: which is what Scott Mills is saying. To me, this
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: sounds like a roundabout answer to say it's not doing
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: well on linear TV and we need to figure out
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: something else for it, because they are coveted shows and
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: something across digital is a lot easier to execute as
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: far as like you know, keeping something on linear, you
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: need certain numbers, you need advertising dollars, you need money,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: You still want to need coins to produce an award
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: show on digital, don't get me wrong, But to have
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it across linear TV, especially where it's taking up a
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: slot where advertisers might want to put something else or
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: might be asking for something that is reaching more people,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: are a larger, stronger demographic, that is a big like
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: this is a big statement that Scott Mills is making now.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I will say I feel like what BT has done
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: with the NAACP Image Awards over the years, even like
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: last year, the show has gotten. Production is amazing, the
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: quality and that goes into the dollars that are being
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: put behind it.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I love to see the celebrities showing up for the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: show as well.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Like the NAACP Image Awards have had some pretty big
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: shows these last couple of years now. The second question
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the journalists followed up with was they asked about the
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five BT Awards viewership dropped almost fifty percent
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in the key demographic, which is eighteen to forty nine
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: demo from last year's show. Are there concerns about the
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: longevity of that long standing show, so, he said?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Scott Mills said, as yourship was down.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: However, the cable ecosystem is smaller today, and that's what
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: I'm saying by when he talking about taking Assault Train
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Awards off of linear TV. That's why to me it's like, Okay,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: this is saying something because it is very hard to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: get something on linear TV today. And it's not because
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: people aren't watching. I mean, yes, less people are watching
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: live TV, people are watching things on streaming, people are
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: bulk watching things. You know, you have the Netflixes, Amazon Primes.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: BT Plus was created, that's one of their vehicles because
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: people are streaming, but there are still pockets of television
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: where you do gather people and you get numbers. But
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: it's not as easy anymore because it's smaller. There's less
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: people watching, so you're fighting hard.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: You're fighting very.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Very hard for that viewership, especially to maintain it year
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: to year to year to year. So he says, yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. You know, the ecosystem
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: is way smaller today. But he says, you know, he
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: gave a shout out to Connie Orlando, who is the EVP,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: the Executive vice president of Specials, Music Programming and Music Strategy,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and her creative team who delivered an amazing twenty fifth
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: anniversary show for BT.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: They did the one on sixth and Park Anniversary.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: During the show, I was in LA for the BT
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Awards and it felt so good to hear that BT
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: is struggling in the space of award shows at all.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: It's kind of disheartening because being at the BT Awards
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: this year, it felt like the old days, like big
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: stars were there, people dressed up, it was classy, it
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: was an event. It felt like a a night of
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: regal and of like black excellence. So it made you
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, we're back, like the R Awards shows,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: like you know, we didn't. Fully it's not like it
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: shut the whole world down, but for real, for real,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: it did.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Like everybody was talking about the BT Awards.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Everybody was talking about how it looked, how it felt,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: all the things. So he's saying, look, that show just
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: went down and it went amazing, So I want to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: give her credit for that. But because this was one
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: of the best BT Awards, he says that he's ever seen.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: So he's saying, the ecosystem has changed, and that is
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: probably one of the issues. But at the same time,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: let's not just lean on that they did move the
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: night of the show. Now, I'm gonna tell you guys something,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: every year since I can remember, the BT Awards has
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: been on Sunday Night, which was it was a very
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: big deal that they moved it.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: But this was a huge year for the BT.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: Awards, Like there was Kevin Hart hosted that, you had
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Drew Ski and Kay Sanat doing live streaming from it.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: There was just a lot that went down during the
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: BT Awards this year. But he is saying that in
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six are going to move back to Sunday,
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: which I think makes sense because the BT Awards are
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: so all surrounded by the BT experience and people. It's
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: kind of like almost like Essence Festival. You know, Essence
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: Festival happens around four for July. It's like the Famer
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: of Reunion, you know, every year around what time your
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: family reunion's happening.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: With the BT Awards, it's the same thing with the timing.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: But also to one of the only reasons why I
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be mad about because again, we're talking about resources.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: We went from Gil.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: King, who is few of many black faces on you know,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: morning daytime television cable network TV. We're talking about Kamala Harris,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: who is one of one in her space, and just
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: resources in a fight that it is. And then we
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: get to BT in that conversation, which is crazy because
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: you know CBS and that whole big merger just happened,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: and you.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Talk about resources.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: Scott Mills is I'm sure behind the scenes having to
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: have conversations about what does what does a Trump administration
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: CBS paramount merger, you know, look like because of all
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the sky Dance stuff. He said in this interview that
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: he's not really worried about it, and he you know,
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: he's not gonna speak to that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But man, if I'm him, you have to look at
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: what's happening.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And if so, if you are looking at what's happening,
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: you're basically looking at the fact that, like all the edgy,
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: hard conversations for us by US.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Trump ain't gonna go for that for too long whatsoever.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: So what I was gonna just say is is like
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: when you're thinking about resources, if resources are thinning out
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: in certain spaces, I say, le's laser in and focused.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: So instead of maybe you know, and this is just
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: this is just me thinking as a viewer and as
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: a concept producer.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, maybe we take the Whole Train.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Awards too digital and we make it something that is
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: a smaller vehicle, but we lean it in the Hip
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Hop Awards, but we leaning even heavier to the BET
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Awards and make that the thing right like that is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the big one, that is the one that's on TV,
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: you know, and everything else is a smaller vehicle, and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: they all get like one hand shows the other, so
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: they all lead into each other. Maybe they do it
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that way. There just needs to be a connectivity of sorts.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I always say a bunch of things I know and
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, right, But things are just different, y'all.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: The media landscape right now is just different.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: My grandmother always says to me the world is gonna
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: come to an end soon, that Jesus is on his
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: way back. When anytime anything happens, like she go to
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: the grocery store and they don't got her water. My
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: grandmother buys deer Park. They don't got her deer Park water. Baby,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the ends of times is coming. I went to the
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: grocery store. It ain't got my waters no more. You
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: need to start saving your money. Y'all know how y'all
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: grandma talk, Especially if your grandmother is a black woman.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: You know, y'all know how they talk.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: My grandmother has been telling me to prepare for the
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: end of times for the last ten years. I am
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: finally at the age and I don't know if it's
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: just because of everything that is happening, or if I
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: really do feel like this.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a mixture of the two.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I'm finally at the age when she calls me and say, baby,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: it's the end of times.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: I say, you know what.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You're right what you told me to do again instead
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: of just being like mo, mom, what are you talking about?
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's like the things that I'm watching happening right now.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I never it's like something out of a sitcom or movie.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I never thought that I would see, honestly, like from
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: our president and a lot of the things that are
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: happening with the administration. You know, people lose jobs every day, unfortunately,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: but man, my friends in entertainment right now, BET did
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: major layoffs. I have friends in every creative industry from
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: music to fashion that like are just losing jobs left
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: My old job, like where I used.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: To work TMZ, they did huge firings as well, and
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I never thought that was happening. Shows were getting canceled
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: left and right when I was in that news room.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: And one thing Harvey was always good about was ensuring
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: us that we would still be working because of the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: vehicle and how it goes. And I mean, it's just
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it's crazy to see it. It's crazy to see, it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: crazy to think about it. And again that's why I'm
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: like yo, I understand common of being like yo, I
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: don't want no parts of this take me on vacation,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: read my book. I'll show up in the communities with
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: my chuck tailors on and my laugh and my he
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: he hah giggle. But baby, life is too short and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: it's coming to an end anyway. Let's live our best lives.
• 28:39
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  Speaker 3: Roza.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: I am Laura l Rosa. Thank you guys for tuning
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