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01/22/26 - Hour 3 · The Huddle

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Speaker 1: You can comment on the YouTube stream.
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Speaker 5: Many are we appreciate everybody streaming us on x, Facebook
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Speaker 5: and YouTube. We're reacting to the Freddy Peralta trade to
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Speaker 5: the Mets. It's the Brewers being the Brewers. And again
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Speaker 5: some people are saying this is like, this is the
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Speaker 5: Brewers being the Brewers. They're gonna take one year of
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Speaker 5: Freddy per Alta and turn it into like years of
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Speaker 5: successful play from two top one hundred prospects. Well, that
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Speaker 5: remains to be seen, but that is their blueprint.
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Speaker 1: That is the plan.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and by ten years, you know, you flip one
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Speaker 4: of them for another five years of somebody else that.
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Speaker 5: In the aggregate is Larry Ruiz for William Contreras, a
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Speaker 5: spin off of the Josh Hader trade.
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Speaker 1: The gift that keeps saying the brewers.
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Speaker 4: Matt Arnold had to have been an absolute demon at
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Speaker 4: the lunch table, right, I mean how he would somehow
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Speaker 4: be able to trade carrots and celery sticks that his
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Speaker 4: mom packed for gogirt and gushers. Yeah, and all of
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Speaker 4: a sudden he's sitting here with gogurt gushers and like
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Speaker 4: our doc and.
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Speaker 1: He's like, whoa, and.
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Speaker 6: Wait till Friday, boys, I'm bringing in the big guns.
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Speaker 6: And he had his biggest his biggest piece of trade piece.
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Speaker 6: It was dunk a ruse flaming hots.
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Speaker 4: My mom came in, Oh, guys, I got apricots. What
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Speaker 4: on you guys don't even worry about Anna love it.
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Speaker 3: And the thing is he had the whole lunch table
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Speaker 3: seeing it.
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Speaker 6: And that kids, I'd do anything for that cupcake for it,
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Speaker 6: you know, That's how he did it.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting stuff eight seven seven, seven, nine four one three.
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Speaker 5: And we're asking like a corrolary to this is. I
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Speaker 5: think people were prepared for this. Still people disappointed. Freddy
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Speaker 5: was very popular, very successful, very underpaid if Freddy Peralta,
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Speaker 5: it's part of the thing.
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Speaker 1: How timing is everything.
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Speaker 5: Freddy Pearlta signed this deal and the Brewers got an
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Speaker 5: incredible bargain. One of the best financial moves to the
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Speaker 5: Brewers have ever made is that long term deal. They
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Speaker 5: get Freddy Parolta where they were getting basically a cy
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Speaker 5: young candidate for eight million dollars. Like he signed it early.
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Speaker 5: He signed a multi year deal. It's you know, he's
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Speaker 5: entering the last year deal. If the Mets want to
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Speaker 5: extend him and tear that up and give him one
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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million and keep him, we'll see. But
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Speaker 5: he's kind of auditioning for him and every other team,
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Speaker 5: so he might leave New York go pitch where he wants.
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Speaker 5: He's going to be a free agent after this year.
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Speaker 5: Brewers make the move right and so, but fans were
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Speaker 5: prepared for it. They've seen the Brewers trade Burns Williams
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Speaker 5: a hater, They've seen this and now he joins that
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Speaker 5: you know that long list of guys lists. But the
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Speaker 5: question is are we prepared for Jiani's trade? And like
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Speaker 5: we kind of like every time you rest easy and think,
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Speaker 5: all right, Yannis said Sam Ammick stay in.
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Speaker 1: He's like he's not going anywhere. We've talked about it.
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Speaker 5: My official position is Giannist might get traded, but it
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Speaker 5: will happen in the summer because it's gonna be about
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Speaker 5: an eight team bank shot with these picks and this
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Speaker 5: expiring and this pick and this that and futures, and
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Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to do in the season. But
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Speaker 5: then a night like last night happens. Buck's uncompetitive against
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Speaker 5: in their rivalry game against Oklahoma, say is adorable? Yeah,
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Speaker 5: And then Gianni's comments afterwards because the last five games,
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Speaker 5: the rest of the Bucks players have seemed to have
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Speaker 5: forgotten that Yiannis is on the team.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and God bless you know, God bless the Ryan
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Speaker 4: Rollins of the world. And Kyle Kusman taking a couple
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Speaker 4: of threes to start the game last night in the
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Speaker 4: festivities at five Serve. And Giannis is I think doing
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Speaker 4: the good soldier deal. However making it I don't know
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Speaker 4: necessarily a parent, but I do believe Drew there is
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Speaker 4: some of this where it's like I'm just gonna let
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Speaker 4: this all happen, and whatever happens, I'll just let it be.
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Speaker 4: Where he goes has nineteen points and fourteen boards seven times. Like,
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Speaker 4: that's not a terrible stat line, but when you're shooting
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Speaker 4: eleven times eleven shots in your two time MVP, that
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Speaker 4: should be a half. That should be a quarter when
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Speaker 4: you start a quarter last week with fourteen of the
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Speaker 4: team's first nineteen points against Atlanta.
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Speaker 6: And I'll say this, I always believe things can get better,
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Speaker 6: and I was excited about the aming thing when it
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Speaker 6: came out. But Giannis is clearly not happy he has
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Speaker 6: And the thing about Giannis is he's always happy, right
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Speaker 6: It's like traditionally, you know, Giannis has always been a
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Speaker 6: guy that's always in a good mood, always happy. Now
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Speaker 6: the teams have been good guys he likes. He's just
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Speaker 6: clearly not happy right now. I know some people on
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Speaker 6: the internet have said pouting. I don't know if that's
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Speaker 6: the right term, but he just he hates losing and
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Speaker 6: he's so unhappy right now.
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Speaker 3: You can see it, and it's just Eric's hard to
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Speaker 3: see that.
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Speaker 1: Eric names tweet.
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Speaker 5: The last six games have featured the five games this
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Speaker 5: season in which Giannis has taken his fewest shots, and
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Speaker 5: then Giannis was asked about that, and Eric's this quote man.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and Eric just asked him the question of trying
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Speaker 4: to be the guy that maybe is a little bit
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Speaker 4: more boisterous, maybe is a little bit louder, tries to
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Speaker 4: showcase that he needs the ball and needs the rock.
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Speaker 1: Do you think that's what this team needs?
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Speaker 4: Now that you're sitting at eighteen and twenty five and
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Speaker 4: we got the audio cued up here right now where
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Speaker 4: Giannis is trying to figure out well, yeah, but it's
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Speaker 4: not exactly who I am, who I want to be,
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Speaker 4: or frankly kind of who I have ever been to
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Speaker 4: be somebody that's just going to demand the rock, demand
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Speaker 4: a bunch of touches, uh, and demand more opportunities. And
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Speaker 4: Yannas said it last night after the question existential, So
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Speaker 4: coach is telling me I got to demand the ball
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Speaker 4: more the one or coach demand you give the rock
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Speaker 4: to the best player on the team. All due respect, Doc,
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Speaker 4: it shouldn't take a doctorate degree to know that Ryan
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Speaker 4: Rollins shouldn't be out shooting Giannis on any given night,
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Speaker 4: or God blessed le Kuzma and I saw the Sweet Dance.
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Speaker 3: We got to watch it the Jennifer Hudson Show.
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Speaker 4: That was great as my man was sauntering to zero
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Speaker 4: five from downtown last night, like, I appreciate that we
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Speaker 4: all want to have our opportunity, and and we all
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Speaker 4: do love Bobby Portis, and I think he's you know,
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Speaker 4: not absolving to blame here, but we all you just
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Speaker 4: bake in. Bobby's gonna take twelve shots. It's actually fifteen
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Speaker 4: at home part of it. Yeah, but how on earth
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Speaker 4: are we not finding more ways to be able to
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Speaker 4: get him the ball? If our coaches are going to
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Speaker 4: tell him that he needs to demand it more, excuse me,
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Speaker 4: demand that he gets the rock to start the offense
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Speaker 4: a lot more, which was drew the way I thought
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Speaker 4: they were gonna play. He says, they had so much
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Speaker 4: success with it at the back end of last year.
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Speaker 5: We all thought that, like this was gonna run the
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Speaker 5: offense through Giannis this year. Let him make take a
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Speaker 5: run at be an MVP, get him all the shots,
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Speaker 5: give him all the touches, and just try to get
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Speaker 5: try to run the team that way.
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Speaker 1: It hasn't materialize, at least not lately.
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Speaker 3: I hadn't heard the word heliocentric enough.
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Speaker 1: Liv No, we haven't. We haven't.
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Speaker 4: And as much as like you can absolutely still put
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Speaker 4: some blame on Giannis if we're turning the ball over whatever,
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Speaker 4: He's also ignite getting the ball out of and off
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Speaker 4: the rim. On the other end defensively, to be just
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Speaker 4: expecting him to have to roll coast to coast is
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Speaker 4: one thing. But work into the offense again to get
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Speaker 4: him more touches and more looks. And whether or not
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Speaker 4: it happens now, I thought it would have happened two
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Speaker 4: weeks ago when they lost two games by a combined
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Speaker 4: fifty plus points. But for a team that is so
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Speaker 4: openly moved off of coaches left and right during this
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Speaker 4: run of trying to do everything you can to win
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Speaker 4: with thirty four on the roster, this one's a little
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Speaker 4: surprising to me because it's pretty clear and obvious. I
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Speaker 4: think drew to everybody that's listening to him after the
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Speaker 4: game or watching the forty eight minutes that there is
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Speaker 4: a clear and ob disconnect there. And I'm surprised that
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Speaker 4: for a team that moved off a coach that had
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Speaker 4: thirty one wins in his first forty some games, yep,
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Speaker 4: is just not opening the eyes of this are not
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Speaker 4: going to try to do something to ignite this group
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Speaker 4: that's sitting right now, seven games under five hundred in January.
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Speaker 5: So Jannis played thirty one minutes last night, he took
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Speaker 5: eleven shots, he made eight eight for eleven. SGA, their MVP,
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Speaker 5: played thirty three minutes. He took nineteen shots sixteen sixteen
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Speaker 5: of nineteen.
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Speaker 1: So Yanna should be doubling his difference.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like yeah, sixteen of nineteen for forty in thirty
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Speaker 5: three minutes for SGA.
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Speaker 1: Who's you know, the reigning MVP.
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Speaker 4: And if there was a night that Yiannis was that
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Speaker 4: efficient in that few shots attempts?
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Speaker 1: What that What that told me is, oh sweet, my
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Speaker 1: man went to the line all night. Sure no six.
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Speaker 4: So again, that's to that's where I'm not gonna say
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Speaker 4: that he might not be somewhat to blame here. And
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Speaker 4: truth be told, Oklahoma City throws a lot of teams
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Speaker 4: out of their offensive game plan to expect that he's
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Speaker 4: gonna get a bunch of interior touches and a lot
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Speaker 4: of open opportunities.
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Speaker 1: It's gonna be.
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Speaker 4: Difficult, but you got to manufacture that stuff, man, and
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Speaker 4: and for a team that you know, three weeks ago
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Speaker 4: when or two weeks ago, when the AMIG report that
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Speaker 4: you mentioned in the interview that he has after I
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Speaker 4: believe that's the Lakers game or the Clippers game out
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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: Well, they had just.
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Speaker 4: Won three of four and we're rolling during a West
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Speaker 4: Coast road trip where you already had, as a Bucks fan,
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Speaker 4: previously identified as schedule losing skid. But we just had
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Speaker 4: We just had the coach say it might have been
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Speaker 4: a schedule loss with tired legs and the best best
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Speaker 4: player on the team saying.
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Speaker 1: Well, that just can't be an excuse.
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Speaker 4: So I am struggling where the cop if we now
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Speaker 4: finally have the ink dry on the new president there.
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Speaker 4: But for a team that has done everything to try
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Speaker 4: and win, this one seems pretty obvious that there is
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Speaker 4: a massive disconnect with the head coach and the basketball.
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Speaker 1: Team and within the team right now.
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Speaker 6: I mean, he talked about his teams maybe, oh, maybe
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Speaker 6: they think it's their turn.
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Speaker 3: I'm not really understanding why. I wonder if they somewhat.
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Speaker 6: I mean, Giannest missed a lot of time this year,
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Speaker 6: and this was not a group he was used to
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Speaker 6: playing with, so did they develop a chemistry when he
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Speaker 6: was out? I mean, you know, the guys he had
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Speaker 6: played with, you think about the toy and Princes of
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Speaker 6: the World last year aren't playing. I wonder if that's
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Speaker 6: a problem too, and and and if so, is he
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Speaker 6: one hundred percent invested emotionally right now? He clearly seems
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Speaker 6: to be upset about it. I don't know the term
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Speaker 6: pouting has been used. I'm not really sure, but something
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Speaker 6: seems to have to change right soon.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you you would have.
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Speaker 6: To think if they're going to turn this thing around
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Speaker 6: at some point or else, it's going to be months
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Speaker 6: of misery.
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Speaker 5: And yeah, it's well, you you're past the halfway point,
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Speaker 5: but not to the All Star break yet, right, and
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Speaker 5: so the All Star break is kind of like a natural,
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Speaker 5: right where are we?
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Speaker 3: Trade deadlines coming up?
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Speaker 1: February fifth, like two and a half weeks.
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Speaker 5: So, you know, the rumor in the league is that
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Speaker 5: the Bucks not even don't even want to listen to
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Speaker 5: offers for you, honest, and they're looking at ways to
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Speaker 5: bring in guys. You know, we heard the Jahn Morant rumors.
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Speaker 5: You've heard a lot of the zach Lavine stuff. You heard,
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Speaker 5: like there's a lot of names out there, but guys
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Speaker 5: that the Bucks might try to take a swing and
12:17
Speaker 5: ad but it doesn't matter. That's why my thing is like,
12:21
Speaker 5: if you want to fire Doc Rivers, great, but who's
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Speaker 5: the guy? Because I don't think sliding Darvin Hamover is
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Speaker 5: going to inject a lot of life into the operation. No,
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Speaker 5: you have the guy that will you want? Is he
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Speaker 5: unemployed currently? Is the guy that you've interviewed before? You know, Bootenhlezer?
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Speaker 6: And are you just looking for a fresh start, maybe
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Speaker 6: Griff a short term bounce to get you through this
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Speaker 6: year before you figure it out?
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Speaker 3: And then that's the thing. Is that the case?
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Speaker 5: But man, that that doesn't seem to be like productive? No,
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Speaker 5: what is the overall mission? Where are you as a franchise? Well,
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Speaker 5: and that's the tough part. This is where I would
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Speaker 5: be being as counter or I'm going to mess up
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Speaker 5: the wording here, but I'm gonna talk about both sides
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Speaker 5: of my mouth.
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Speaker 1: Where I did ask Packers fans when you.
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Speaker 4: Said that you wanted to move off of btt Lafleur
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Speaker 4: be like, well, who would you go get?
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Speaker 1: I really don't know who you go get?
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Speaker 4: But I do agree with you Drew that the short
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Speaker 4: term fix of sliding darvinham Over doesn't cure the problem.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't fix the situation.
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Speaker 4: But I also don't know that the new voice is
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Speaker 4: gonna be that it's best served to go long term
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Speaker 4: in the middle of the year, right, Like that's what
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Speaker 4: they went with when Doc was hired, and I applauded
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Speaker 4: it because he was like the only guy that was
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Speaker 4: available at the time.
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Speaker 1: And well, you gotta go do something.
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Speaker 4: You gotta make some kind of move, you gotta try
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Speaker 4: something different. We gotta pay big time to get him
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Speaker 4: out of retirement. I don't know that that guy is
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Speaker 4: sitting out there that is super attractive at the moment.
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Speaker 6: Is it?
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Speaker 1: Taylor Jenkins?
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Speaker 5: He got fired by the Grizzlies, got him into the
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Speaker 5: playoffs they were winning, and.
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Speaker 1: Worked with the honest before.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, in a little bit of a toxic situation with
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Speaker 5: John and all that he had to navigate.
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Speaker 1: There are a fewer headache with the Bucks.
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Speaker 3: And are you at hail Mary's status?
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Speaker 6: Like, like, we felt better a couple of weeks ago,
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Speaker 6: but things clearly are good. Are you at the point
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Speaker 6: we had to start throwing hail mary's to try and
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Speaker 6: save this thing and save Youannes?
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Speaker 4: Well, they've been throwing hail mary's on second down for
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Speaker 4: a while.
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Speaker 5: What did Doc say when he slid in, I wouldn't
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Speaker 5: wish this on anybody, a mid season replacement, right?
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Speaker 6: Why?
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Speaker 3: He said, why are you doing this? I don't know
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Speaker 3: why they're doing.
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Speaker 1: On TV and playing golf, but well, you're probably right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's a pretty good job. I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to say you can get.
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Speaker 1: Forty million on doing right. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: But but for from Bucks fans perspective, I wish he
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Speaker 4: would have taken Drew's advice for him. I totally would
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Speaker 4: have done the exact same thing, and I would have
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Speaker 4: made more cash. But I wonder if and and you
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Speaker 4: mentioned the hail Mary and than Taylor Jenkins thing. I
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Speaker 4: think Jaw's bigger issues in Memphis have been with the
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Speaker 4: new coach. I think him and Taylor Jenkins got along
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Speaker 4: decently well. And that also you want to talk about
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Speaker 4: the rumor mill going into the trade deadline? Is like,
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Speaker 4: are the Bucks going to take the biggest swing possible
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Speaker 4: and go and try to find a way for Ja
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Speaker 4: Morant to team up with Giannis?
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Speaker 1: Are they gonna do whatever?
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Speaker 4: And I again, I don't know how many of those fit,
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Speaker 4: but I wonder how much of this is We're trying
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Speaker 4: to do anything in everything to make sure that on
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Speaker 4: October fifth, he says, yeah, I will sign it, and
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Speaker 4: it just becomes increasingly more obvious and Aeron and Caroline
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Speaker 4: is gonna love this.
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Speaker 1: You've been saying it for a long time.
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Speaker 4: I do think it's probably gonna be best served once
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Speaker 4: you get into the offseason that you have to open
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Speaker 4: it up and move him and try to get something
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Speaker 4: back and recoup something.
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Speaker 5: When we were going through this last year, I did
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Speaker 5: say when the Dame thing, when Dame injury happened, I'm like,
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Speaker 5: all right, now's the time. I don't want it to
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Speaker 5: happen because I want you, honest to stay forever. And
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Speaker 5: it's selfishly we got to have him here. We love
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Speaker 5: having them in the market. But the time to trade.
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Speaker 4: Would have been then well, and if you want it,
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Speaker 4: and I'll admit that it could very much be a
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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers in twenty twenty one deal, unlike twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 4: where you could have sold probably height of the power
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Speaker 4: at twenty one and gotten how many first picks from Denver,
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Speaker 4: gotten how much UH back in return, and ultimately you
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Speaker 4: decided not to You waited the next year and moved
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Speaker 4: up two spots in the first round. I also wanted
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Speaker 4: to stay in the Rogers business there, so I guess
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Speaker 4: I'm doubling down on that side of the approach. But uh,
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Speaker 4: the coaching question, and I do wonder if they get
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Speaker 4: that SoundBite on the Cleveland Plane dealer, do we have
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Speaker 1: So, Jimmy knows what actually happened.
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Speaker 4: That's what it comes down for me when talking about
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Speaker 4: Dad started at eight forty two local time, almost ten
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Speaker 4: o'clock Eastern Standard time, late night, no shot.
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Speaker 1: My man stayed up here late night.
16:41
Speaker 6: And my thing is, and people have been talking about
16:43
Speaker 6: it for how many weeks now after every loss, isn't
16:45
Speaker 6: it now the time you fired Doc.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't really know was making the decision, And.
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Speaker 6: As part of the problem, I don't John Horst didn't
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Speaker 6: want him in the first place, so if he didn't,
16:53
Speaker 6: doesn't have the choice not to fire him. I'm not
16:56
Speaker 6: sure if it's his choice at all. So until I
16:57
Speaker 6: know it was making the decision on the coach, if
16:59
Speaker 6: it's him, Jimmy or ownership, you know whatever, Jimmy and
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Speaker 6: the rest of the ownership. It's hard for me to
17:04
Speaker 6: know what could happen and when it will happen, because
17:07
Speaker 6: if they decide they like Doc in the first place,
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Speaker 6: and they still like Doc, and I'm not sure anything's
17:11
Speaker 6: gonna happen.
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Speaker 4: You know, you can find ourselves with the Jimmy HASLM
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Speaker 4: Terry Pagoula press conference.
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Speaker 1: Is what you're saying.
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Speaker 4: Oh boy, you guys don't even know. Can I interrupt here?
17:21
Speaker 4: Can I interrupt here? Doc Rivers wanted Ryan Rounds, wanted
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Speaker 4: him to be started. He wanted Kevin Bord Junior to
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Speaker 4: be start starting way earlier than this.
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Speaker 6: Well, Pegoula said, he walked into the locker room and
17:31
Speaker 6: saw guys upset, and that's why I made the move.
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Speaker 3: I'd like to see that from last night, look at
17:35
Speaker 3: the locker room.
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Speaker 4: And then poor Coleman just turned out the whipping boy
17:39
Speaker 4: of all whipping boys yesterday. Hey, nobody wanted him. No,
17:43
Speaker 4: you wanted him, You wanted him, You wanted him.
17:46
Speaker 3: It's your fault.
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Speaker 5: His new Bucks president and Wisconsin native Josh Glessing on
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Speaker 5: the clock to to do what policy did not do.
17:53
Speaker 5: And shake things up. Does he have that power a
17:55
Speaker 5: little bit of different situation.
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Speaker 1: It's a fair question.
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Speaker 3: I don't even know what makes that decision there. Problem
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Speaker 3: is that's a good question.
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Speaker 5: Parolta trade as well as your memory of a trade
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Speaker 5: that gutted you as a child, as a young sports fan.
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Speaker 1: Maybe you know the Ray Allen one rat Farv whatever
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Speaker 1: it was.
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Speaker 5: If there was a trade that gutted you, and we're
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Speaker 5: also kicking around the idea of prepare ourselves in Caseyanis
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Speaker 5: gets traded, because that's.
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Speaker 1: Now become the norm.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the sound last night was was tougher from
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Speaker 4: the from the Bucks locker, and that one's gonna hurt
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Speaker 4: a lot of people. I do appreciate you that even
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Speaker 4: more folks have, like Mike Witt had lined in with
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Speaker 4: me on the thought that you know, the trades that
19:42
Speaker 4: gut you as a Packers fan are more the ones
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Speaker 4: that don't happen. The trade that almost happened that really
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Speaker 4: gutted me was not getting Marshawn Lynch from Buffalo. They
19:50
Speaker 4: were willing to trade us beast Mode and they wanted
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Speaker 4: a J Hawk and Ted Thompson said no.
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Speaker 1: Now that was a hot rumor for a while. Hot rumor. Now.
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Speaker 4: I also liked it a lot more when the rumor
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Speaker 4: was a third pick because there was a certain individual
20:02
Speaker 4: on this show that loved Ajhawk.
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Speaker 1: And when that.
20:05
Speaker 4: Rumor got got swirling around, that was a tough one
20:09
Speaker 4: because did I like the idea of bringing in a
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Speaker 4: physical running back that was driving around a golf cart
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Speaker 4: in college?
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Speaker 1: Thousand percent? I liked the Marshawn Lynch deal.
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Speaker 4: Did I appreciate that it also came at the expense
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Speaker 4: of maybe my favorite player.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
20:23
Speaker 4: So that was a tough rumor mill for your boy
20:26
Speaker 4: when I was in that peak fandom area of like twelve, thirteen, fourteen.
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Speaker 3: Hey, it is.
20:30
Speaker 5: Seven twenty seven in the am. Do you know where
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Speaker 5: your packers' defensive coordinator is? Is it Jonathan Gannon who's
20:36
Speaker 5: interviewing today and tomorrow? Why does he have two days
20:38
Speaker 5: set up? That's a great someone out of the building
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Speaker 5: that they can't talk to him and he has to
20:43
Speaker 5: stick around.
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Speaker 3: I think it's flight schedules. I mean, not a lot
20:46
Speaker 3: of flights come into Green Bay at the connection.
20:48
Speaker 5: By the way, anybody who's thinking about flying in the
20:50
Speaker 5: next couple of days, Oh.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be screwed.
20:52
Speaker 6: That might be part of it too. It might be
20:54
Speaker 6: a deal with like, look, we know the weather's going
20:55
Speaker 6: to be rough, you might as well just stay two days.
20:58
Speaker 6: I think that was it.
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Speaker 5: I think how much any of these okay, is this
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Speaker 5: pecking order? Like if we're interviewing for the job. If
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Speaker 5: we're going to interview ten people for the defensive core
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Speaker 5: in their job, and two or three of them are
21:08
Speaker 5: in person and seven are on zoom, who's got the advantage,
21:11
Speaker 5: the guy who's in the room, the people on zoom. Yeah,
21:13
Speaker 5: generally that why am I zoom? Like can't get there?
21:18
Speaker 5: Or and do the Packers, if they get to send somebody,
21:21
Speaker 5: and do they fly them in commercial or do they
21:23
Speaker 5: send the jet.
21:24
Speaker 4: I think we're sending the jet. I think I think
21:26
Speaker 4: we're at that spot right, we're sending a dollar higher.
21:29
Speaker 4: I mean you would think that.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think guys are flying
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Speaker 3: in commercial for interviews.
21:35
Speaker 1: This is the National Football League. We flying coach.
21:39
Speaker 5: That's where the Packers don't really have an owner, but
21:41
Speaker 5: I'm sure they have like a.
21:43
Speaker 1: I mean, hell, I just saw it. I saw it.
21:45
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffen fly in private to and from Atlanta to
21:48
Speaker 4: try to get a sophomore left tackle.
21:50
Speaker 3: We can't fly Al Harris up here from Midway private.
21:53
Speaker 6: Well, that's totally different deal. Billy colleges and recruiting, they
21:57
Speaker 6: lease jets for recruiting. They at least now I think
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Speaker 6: interview coordinator position.
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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong.
22:02
Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: It'd be nice if they could. I don't think they
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Speaker 6: own a plane, the Packers, so they would leasse in it and.
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Speaker 5: Done a few I did a few job interviews where
22:09
Speaker 5: they flew me and put me in a hotel and
22:11
Speaker 5: stuff to get me in a person. Interviewed a couple
22:13
Speaker 5: of those in my career, and yeah, I mean I
22:17
Speaker 5: would think that that's how it goes at first class.
22:19
Speaker 5: Maybe not star trackings. Maybe I'll find the first class ticket,
22:22
Speaker 5: but not private. I would say, is with them, But
22:24
Speaker 5: you never know. Hell, there are some guys probably pay
22:26
Speaker 5: their own way to interview for the job. Well that's fair, Yeah,
22:29
Speaker 5: that's fair. Is John m canna going to be the
22:31
Speaker 5: sexy higher he doesn't seem as dynamic? Is Rahie Morris?
22:34
Speaker 5: The guy is Jim Leonard who can't talk to the
22:36
Speaker 5: Packers till what Monday?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the one yesterday that that surface that
22:40
Speaker 4: the Packers had interviewed Al Harris for the job defensive
22:43
Speaker 4: court DB's coach in Chicago gets the look in Green Bay.
22:47
Speaker 4: He also had more interviews with Dallas as well, where
22:51
Speaker 4: he had previously been, and a lot of people jumping
22:54
Speaker 4: on the the love of having a former player in here,
22:57
Speaker 4: in somebody that would have a little bit of fresh blood.
22:59
Speaker 4: He also out a DB's room that had the league
23:02
Speaker 4: leading twenty something picks a year ago. But the Jim
23:06
Speaker 4: Leonard one is fascinating because I think he's got And
23:10
Speaker 4: Zach asks us right away, do you think Jim Leonard
23:12
Speaker 4: has a real shot of getting hired. I think he would,
23:15
Speaker 4: and I think there's a reason why he was up
23:18
Speaker 4: for potentially the job when they hired Jeff Haffley. Feels
23:21
Speaker 4: like he's got a pretty proven track record of being
23:23
Speaker 4: long term successful player and turning Wisconsin defenses into a
23:26
Speaker 4: perennial top ten group. Also, more importantly, I think to
23:29
Speaker 4: the folks in Green Bay, he's also now been doing
23:31
Speaker 4: it at the NFL level, right, and doing it with
23:35
Speaker 4: some very good.
23:35
Speaker 1: Players in Denver, right.
23:37
Speaker 4: Pats Or Dan Second is one of the best, if
23:39
Speaker 4: not the best corner in football, but he makes Riley
23:41
Speaker 4: Moss over there on the other side pretty dang good.
23:44
Speaker 4: And the Packers have run into their secondary last couple
23:47
Speaker 4: of years. So I think that's that's a very fascinating name,
23:51
Speaker 4: the Gannon one. And this is where last night my
23:56
Speaker 4: top flight dream scenario got dashed because Minnesota Vikings locked
24:02
Speaker 4: up Brian Flores to a DC job. Now he can
24:04
Speaker 4: still go get the Pittsburgh head coaching job. He's still
24:06
Speaker 4: up for a couple of head coaching gigs, and the
24:09
Speaker 4: contract isn't prohibitive of him going obviously upward and getting
24:13
Speaker 4: a head job.
24:14
Speaker 1: He can still go for an elevation.
24:16
Speaker 4: But if the Packers would have been able to swipe
24:18
Speaker 4: in there and steal Brian Flores, I would have been
24:21
Speaker 4: over the moon. The old school schematics of well does
24:25
Speaker 4: this guy run a three four? Does this guy run
24:26
Speaker 4: a four to three? I don't even know that that's
24:29
Speaker 4: ultimately gonna be a question for any of these guys,
24:31
Speaker 4: because so many of them have worked in multiple different fronts,
24:35
Speaker 4: and we see the NFL is so multiple in and
24:38
Speaker 4: of itself. You have to be malleable depending on what
24:40
Speaker 4: your rosters. So like Gannon was a lot more of
24:43
Speaker 4: a three to four guy. They've been three four to
24:45
Speaker 4: three over the majority of the last couple of years.
24:48
Speaker 4: He came from a pro predominantly four man front down
24:52
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, but hasn't called defensive plays in a while.
24:56
Speaker 4: They're gonna people are grabbing the clips of Jonathan Gannon
24:59
Speaker 4: in front of a room on hard knocks yep, not
25:02
Speaker 4: specifically dynamic, and it would it's a stark contrast from
25:07
Speaker 4: what you've heard from the sound bites of Jeff Hafley
25:10
Speaker 4: that Jonathan, Yeah.
25:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but but that doesn't always mean results. So
25:14
Speaker 3: that's the thing. But you're right, Billy, I mean, that's.
25:16
Speaker 6: The that's a there's no doubt Jeff Hafley made you
25:18
Speaker 6: feel a certain type of way that maybe Gannon maybe
25:21
Speaker 6: it's a little different, you know, in that regard.
25:23
Speaker 3: So that's a really good point.
25:24
Speaker 6: By the way, guys, there wasn't net jets at landed
25:26
Speaker 6: in Green Bay from Scottsdale yesterday, so maybe that's.
25:29
Speaker 3: The one that was the least one. So maybe, Billy,
25:31
Speaker 3: you're right. I don't know. I guess that's very possible
25:34
Speaker 3: that could have been him.
25:34
Speaker 1: We know more a lot more about aviation than I.
25:36
Speaker 6: Well, that's the least private. I mean, that could be
25:38
Speaker 6: that's the only one I saw. So if he flew
25:40
Speaker 6: in yesterday, maybe he's flying today. Who knows. Two day window,
25:44
Speaker 6: right question. Yeah, well, you probably want to be in
25:46
Speaker 6: a hotel the night before.
25:48
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I.
25:50
Speaker 4: Don't think you want to be a riving day of
25:51
Speaker 4: the interview. You want to be in there. You want
25:53
Speaker 4: to be able to shower at the lodge colder today,
25:56
Speaker 4: walk across the street, maybe stop it crolls. Maybe they
25:59
Speaker 4: Bay Motel for a nice breakfast start. Maybe I think
26:01
Speaker 4: that would be my favorite. Second.
26:04
Speaker 5: Maybe that's when he meets the higher ups and does
26:06
Speaker 5: the deal. And maybe that's the equivalent of the previst
26:09
Speaker 5: radio announce are going to dinner with Don and Charlie.
26:11
Speaker 6: That's the final Yeah, final, final, boss, right.
26:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta have you know, final final.
26:17
Speaker 3: Is So is that Wayne Wayne driving up to meet
26:21
Speaker 3: the you know why?
26:22
Speaker 1: I think rock?
26:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's probably thinking it's probably and I
26:27
Speaker 4: don't I don't think Wayne would take any offense to it.
26:30
Speaker 4: But I do believe you gotta get you gotta get blessed.
26:33
Speaker 4: But and maybe it's maybe Larroy is cooking the meal too.
26:37
Speaker 4: That exactly cheffleroy.
26:40
Speaker 6: You know we talk about we talk about this with
26:42
Speaker 6: with offenses and quarterbacks. Does Mikey get to say, like
26:46
Speaker 6: do you get blessed by Micah for a job like
26:48
Speaker 6: he's the most important player in your defense?
26:51
Speaker 3: Is there a factor in there?
26:52
Speaker 5: Consult there's someone who's across pass with him before or
26:55
Speaker 5: you know, oh well do you want to hire.
26:58
Speaker 1: Just bounce that one. I don't think it's gonna work.
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Speaker 4: I do believe well Al Harris I think was in
27:02
Speaker 4: Dallas while he was so that one, that one there
27:05
Speaker 4: is a connection to. And again I don't know that
27:09
Speaker 4: Al Harris would be a phenomenal defensive coordinator. I do
27:11
Speaker 4: know that I would love it for the simple vibes,
27:14
Speaker 4: right like you want to talk about the vibes of
27:16
Speaker 4: a former Packer great being on the sidelines for the
27:19
Speaker 4: Packers who's also been earning every elevation he's gotten because
27:24
Speaker 4: you look at what the production in Dallas was. He
27:26
Speaker 4: was the DB's coach for Trevon Diggs when he had
27:29
Speaker 4: an eleven interception year, dron Blant had what five pick
27:32
Speaker 4: sixes and he was in the defensive Player of the
27:35
Speaker 4: Year category. I believe he was there through that time
27:37
Speaker 4: as well. And then this year simply about the ball.
27:40
Speaker 4: The number one issue with the Packers defense. This year,
27:43
Speaker 4: Drew was intercepting the football and that has kind of
27:47
Speaker 4: followed Al Harris in his entire tenure.
27:50
Speaker 5: That was a regression to the mean because they had
27:52
Speaker 5: all those Xavier McKinney comes on seven games with a
27:57
Speaker 5: pick and then last year he had seven or eight
28:00
Speaker 5: picks in this year they didn't have as a team
28:02
Speaker 5: seven or eight picks.
28:03
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like the cycle, you know. But here's
28:06
Speaker 1: the thing.
28:07
Speaker 5: As much as we loved Halfley and what he did
28:09
Speaker 5: and how great he was at the podium and everything,
28:12
Speaker 5: he didn't he didn't exude that kind of dog like that.
28:16
Speaker 5: You're looking for a Kevin Green like. That's because when
28:18
Speaker 5: you have the high tech whiz kid on the offensive side,
28:22
Speaker 5: once you want the other, you want the other extreme,
28:24
Speaker 5: you want the dog. You want the guy likes as dumb,
28:27
Speaker 5: as much fun as we made of it. We don't
28:29
Speaker 5: want to be hypocrites, so you don't bite your kneecaps.
28:32
Speaker 5: It's kind of what you want out of a Packers
28:34
Speaker 5: defensive coiner that they haven't really had. Like Tom Capers
28:38
Speaker 5: was a guy with like low blood pressure, you know.
28:40
Speaker 5: Joe Berry was I guess, kind of fiery on the field.
28:43
Speaker 1: Joe Barry. You watch fiery on the field, tents on
28:45
Speaker 1: the field.
28:46
Speaker 4: But Jeff Haffley, the only thing fiery was that one
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Speaker 4: vein that went right through the forehead.
28:51
Speaker 1: Saw that he was.
28:53
Speaker 5: More I don't know, more cerebral new age, but people
28:57
Speaker 5: want that now. Is Jim Leonard when you see him,
29:00
Speaker 5: when you talk to him, when you watch him carry himself,
29:02
Speaker 5: is he that dug No? But you know from his
29:04
Speaker 5: background and you know he is, so he kind of
29:06
Speaker 5: embodies that. He doesn't exude it per se, Right, But
29:10
Speaker 5: who is that? Who? Who are the dogs? Who are
29:12
Speaker 5: the guys that like Floraes conversation? I think Al Harris
29:16
Speaker 5: has that. Yes, I don't know DeMarcus Comington, haven't really talked.
29:19
Speaker 3: To him Field. That's the other question.
29:23
Speaker 5: Well, and that's the other thing is but that in
29:25
Speaker 5: terms of vibes and optics, that's kind of what I
29:28
Speaker 5: think people want and they need. You want to know
29:30
Speaker 5: that you're playing with that edge. You want that you
29:33
Speaker 5: know that that whole you know, hit him within the
29:36
Speaker 5: echo of the whistle type defense.
29:38
Speaker 4: And somebody be able to let you hear it a
29:40
Speaker 4: little bit, and somebody that's been around. And I also
29:42
Speaker 4: think that there's something to somebody that has clearly earned
29:45
Speaker 4: uh the elevation and the and the next step of
29:47
Speaker 4: the opportunity. You get a very very hungry Al Harris
29:51
Speaker 4: if that ends up being the higher and and conversely
29:53
Speaker 4: somebody just getting fired as a head coach and the
29:55
Speaker 4: last time he was at DC calling plays on the
29:58
Speaker 4: defensive side. Gannon was in a super so I'm not
30:01
Speaker 4: saying that he's not qualified from that standpoint, But to
30:03
Speaker 4: your statement, Drew, I do think that that attitude is
30:08
Speaker 4: something that people are kind of craving and from another name.
30:12
Speaker 4: That's why Brian Flores is always top of mind.
30:14
Speaker 1: But when you see.
30:15
Speaker 3: When you see that jacket open on the sideline, you know.
30:18
Speaker 4: What man is about that business, and he is and
30:21
Speaker 4: he's fiery on the sidelines. People love Bob Sala crouching
30:25
Speaker 4: down getting into a defensive position on the sidelines. I
30:28
Speaker 4: think Jim Schwartz is a fascinating spot name. If he
30:31
Speaker 4: doesn't get that Cleveland job, he should be in the
30:34
Speaker 4: conversation for this DC job where somebody that has previous
30:38
Speaker 4: head coaching experience. I think that's important to Lafleur because
30:43
Speaker 4: if you're gonna be a play calling offensive head coach,
30:47
Speaker 4: offensive play caller, you kind of want to be able
30:49
Speaker 4: to set it and forget it on the defensive side.
30:51
Speaker 4: I think that's that was what was very very impactful
30:55
Speaker 4: in the Jeff Hafley hire and something that Lafleur took
30:59
Speaker 4: a lot of confidence knowing that he had been a
31:01
Speaker 4: head coach. He's the head coach of the defense. I
31:03
Speaker 4: don't have to worry about that. I can set it
31:04
Speaker 4: and forget it. Somebody that's been a head coach, maybe
31:07
Speaker 4: you feel more confident that way and been a good one.
31:10
Speaker 4: But Jim Schwartz has been he'd been to a playoffs,
31:13
Speaker 4: been to the playoffs as a head coach. He's been
31:15
Speaker 4: a defensive coordinator for a long time and also now
31:18
Speaker 4: has worked with superstar Edge Rusher. Gotten the absolute best
31:23
Speaker 4: out of an attacking defense with a Miles Garrett.
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Speaker 1: Pair him with Micah Parsons, I'd be very, very fascinated.
31:28
Speaker 1: That would be pretty intending that I'm gonna get excited about. Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: but really, there we go again.
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Speaker 5: He's at the top of their staff. Now they can
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Speaker 5: argue about it.
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Speaker 6: It might be the last five people on Earth if
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Speaker 6: there's a nuclear apocalypse.
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Speaker 3: And then when he's sitting around saying it was Freddy
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Speaker 3: an ace or.
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Speaker 1: Not classic Classic?
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Speaker 5: You're listening to the huddle Fox Sports Radio Wisconsin. We've
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Speaker 5: been huddling up all morning Drew, Billy and Arman on
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Speaker 5: the day after Brewers trade Freddy Pearolt have been talking
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Speaker 5: about that, talking about Giannis, talking about Packers defensive coordinator
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Speaker 5: interviews that are ongoing.
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Speaker 1: Billy's favorite guy and probably mine too, came off the board.
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Speaker 1: That would have been awesome.
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Speaker 4: And also just because the Vikings have stolen so many
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Speaker 4: players from the Green Bay Packers, just the other dc whs,
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Speaker 4: you know, the second most important person in the organization,
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Speaker 4: right behind Kevin O'Connell, the guy that was able to
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Speaker 4: cover up the fact that JJ McCarthy legitimately couldn't complete
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Speaker 4: you know, simple out routes, and the fact that maybe
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Speaker 4: Max Brosmer is better than the first round pick. The
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Speaker 4: guy that was covering up all of those to win
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Speaker 4: games at the end of the year would have liked
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Speaker 4: that one.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: I do also still and I still got hope. Raheem
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Speaker 4: Morris is still out there. It seems like he's gonna
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Speaker 4: get one of these last openings.
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Speaker 1: It does.
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Speaker 4: But if he's Likelyannon, yeah, I'm way more likely than Gannon.
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Speaker 4: And I think for Morris, the Packers would probably be
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Speaker 4: third in line, which is I think he's gonna be
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Speaker 4: very very in demand head job wherever that would be
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Speaker 4: probably going back to la If Chris Shula gets a job,
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Speaker 4: who's there DC right now? Uh? And and that would
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Speaker 4: open up the DC spot where he was before he
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Speaker 4: got the Atlanta job and they ended up winning a title.
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Speaker 4: Going back and coaching with McVeigh, I think would probably
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Speaker 4: be maybe a little more intriguing with that young defense,
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Speaker 4: But then the Packers would be right there at the top.
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Speaker 5: The Buccaneers had Zach Robinson an interview for the OC
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Speaker 5: job and then didn't leave him, let him leave the building.
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Speaker 5: Is that what the Packers like when you saw that
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Speaker 5: he's that Johnathan Gannon's in town Thursday and Friday?
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Speaker 1: Well was he getting the gig? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I felt like that that means the corner there. Can
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Speaker 4: they talk the press conference?
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Speaker 5: Can they do it without having a conversation with Jim
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Speaker 5: Leonard Or is that is that door closed because he
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Speaker 5: almost got hired a few years ago, he thought he
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Speaker 5: was going to get the Badger job.
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Speaker 1: I still think I think that might be closed.
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Speaker 4: I just I struggled to see, Uh, Matt Lafleur going
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Speaker 4: back to somebody that turned him down for a coaching
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Speaker 4: that had your shot type of deal, like had your.
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Speaker 5: Chance, but it was since it that was like quite
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Speaker 5: the extenuating circumstance where what would you rather be our
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Speaker 5: DC or a coach of the university that you bled
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Speaker 5: for and like I've been working with.
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Speaker 4: I mean, why do you live twenty five thirty minutes
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Speaker 4: away or whatever it was?
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Speaker 6: Yea, maybe an overture only takes a couple hours too.
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Speaker 6: I mean maybe they did reach out, said is there
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Speaker 6: any interest?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 6: Agent says no, only move on. I'm not really sure.
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Speaker 6: I mean it's possible they've already reached out. I think
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Speaker 6: there'd be interest on the Jim Leonard side, Al Harris
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Speaker 6: interviewing in Washington today.
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Speaker 4: Washington, I think he's getting an interview in Dallas or
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Speaker 4: already interviewed in Dallas, so he's he's in there. So
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Speaker 4: he's been there and he was their assistant head coach
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Speaker 4: I believe, the last year of McCarthy. So there's a
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Speaker 4: lot of a lot of reason to think he might
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Speaker 4: head back there. I would just love it because it
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Speaker 4: would be an idea, an ideal way of letting Bears
36:07
Speaker 4: fans know, you can enjoy your one victory, you can
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Speaker 4: enjoy your two wins in this one season. Now we're
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Speaker 4: going to go and take the superpower away, and it
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Speaker 4: might be our team that grabs league leading twenty some
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Speaker 4: interceptions in twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and do coordinators generate turnovers?
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Speaker 4: Not necessarily, but they sure seem to. The interceptions sure
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Speaker 4: seem to travel with Al Harris right where Al Harris
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Speaker 4: has gone. His teams have always been near the top
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Speaker 4: of the league in intercepting. And a lot of it
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Speaker 4: is just your what your your pillars and most important
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Speaker 4: things to you are when your your top of mind priorities,
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Speaker 4: When the ball is always going to be the most important,
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Speaker 4: are you able to make that the most important aspect
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Speaker 4: of your defense.
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Speaker 1: I think that.
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Speaker 4: There's defenses that are generally speaking, more aggressive and more
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Speaker 4: you know, geared towards getting after the quarterback. I think
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Speaker 4: you've seen a lot of his are very much geared
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Speaker 4: towards getting the football, and sometimes that can be with
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Speaker 4: the second game.
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Speaker 6: Well, Zavian McKinney said, this year the process didn't change,
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Speaker 6: so they were getting the Packers got a lot of takeaways.
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Speaker 3: Two years ago, didn't get him.
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Speaker 1: Last year.
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Speaker 6: It was the same coach, mostly the same players. The
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Speaker 6: process didn't change. Sometimes you get him, sometimes you don't.
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Speaker 6: The Packers definitely had opportunities to squeeze them. That's one
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Speaker 6: thing we'll remember from this year. I think guys that
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Speaker 6: they have the opportunity to keep a lot of more takeaways,
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Speaker 6: keep a lot of takeaways that couldn't secure the ball.
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Speaker 4: So again, if that means that that's a higher priority
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Speaker 4: during practice and during the lead up during the weekend
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Speaker 4: in training camp, do you squeeze more of those?
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Speaker 6: Right? Like?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, hear you would think yeah.
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Speaker 4: So like I think that being the top priority for
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Speaker 4: his defenses could be the case.
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Speaker 1: I do, though, think somebody with.
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Speaker 4: Head coaching experience has a significant leg up because of
37:53
Speaker 4: the fact that as an offensive play call, you want
37:55
Speaker 4: to kind of set it and forget it. And the
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Speaker 4: Gannon two day deal is either his agent being very
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Speaker 4: wizardly to say, hey, if anybody else is interested, you
38:05
Speaker 4: better go get him now because he's gonna be in
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Speaker 4: Green Bay Twhite for two days, Bay Motel and Krolls
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Speaker 4: for dinner. That's gonna be a tough deals. Not going
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Speaker 4: to Red Lobster.
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Speaker 1: He's not gonna want to leave there.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he might need that cheddar Baby famous famous get
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Speaker 5: locked on the trip with the Reggie.
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Speaker 6: Hey, Listen, sometimes the deals are made under the most
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Speaker 6: auspicious of circumstances, including cheddar Bay Biscuits, never know biskets.
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Speaker 1: Do you think Mike gets the Pittsburgh job. I don't
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Speaker 1: know which way that's gonna go.
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Speaker 5: I gotta believe there's a poll there because he you know,
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Speaker 5: if they have somebody on their radar, that's still a
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Speaker 5: plumb job. But McCarthy, what's he got like five years
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Speaker 5: six years left?
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Speaker 3: Maybe? Probably?
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Speaker 6: Probably?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that Flores stoles up for that to.
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Speaker 1: Mean Floras is a guy that could be there as
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Speaker 1: long as Tomlin perhaps for sure.
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Speaker 4: And Chris Shula would be in the same uh same
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Speaker 4: way as the younger in their top three too.
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Speaker 5: That could be a thing because they that they're the
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Speaker 5: hallmark of continuity. And then but McCarthy and Rogers, if
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Speaker 5: Rogers comes back, or does do they have to contact
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Speaker 5: Rogers to.
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Speaker 3: See what he says?
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Speaker 5: Do they have to that's a great question, or if
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Speaker 5: you're going to interview interview for that job, don't you
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Speaker 5: want to know? As Aaron plan, I think he would
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Speaker 5: have probably have or they have a couple of months
39:18
Speaker 5: to figure out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, But I think it would also be Drew similar
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Speaker 4: to when the Packers were hiring Matt Lafleur in twenty nineteen,
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Speaker 4: the goal was for him to be the coach of
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Speaker 4: the next quarterback. Yes, right, like he was going to
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Speaker 4: coach the next quarterback, and whenever they ended up drafting
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Speaker 4: the next quarterback, he's going to get the opportunity to
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Speaker 4: develop that guy. That's where I think McCarthy has more
39:38
Speaker 4: of an advantage other than you would think whether or
39:42
Speaker 4: not they go and sign Malik Willis for big money
39:44
Speaker 4: or they try to draft one of these dudes and develop.
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Speaker 1: He's got a track record.
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Speaker 4: Sure, Aaron Rodgers, sure working with Dak, But I mean
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Speaker 4: Aaron Brooks was pretty good when he was his quarterback coach,
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Speaker 4: like you have other guys.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 4: We're able to succeed with him either calling plays, are
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Speaker 4: developing Matt Flynn's game in they so I think that
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Speaker 4: working at that position with far Less is pretty intriguing
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Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh because they never had that.
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Speaker 1: I do agree with that. That's there's still some plumb
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Speaker 1: jobs out there, man.
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Speaker 4: And if anybody who's gonna coach the Pittsburgh Steelers, it
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Speaker 4: should be Mike McCarthy. To cap off maybe the three
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Speaker 4: most pillar franchises in the Touchstone franchise.
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Speaker 6: Why I thought when he was getting the Giants job too,
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Speaker 6: but I mean this guy. Yeah, the Packers, Cowboys and
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Speaker 6: Steelers you kidding?
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, all three of them ones that are
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Speaker 4: actually in the conversation for Pittsburgh native.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: Put a bow on it.
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Speaker 5: That's why I almost think it's not gonna happen, because
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Speaker 5: it'd be too sweet, too ideal.
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Speaker 1: Too perfect.
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Speaker 5: And then he and Aaron like one last time, but
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Speaker 5: you know, bygones are bygones losing the championship game one
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Speaker 5: last time?
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Speaker 1: Who said that? Who said that? Oh my wow?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we covered a lot of ground today, thanks to
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Speaker 5: the brush for giving us the warm the hot stove
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Speaker 5: to warm ourselves around Tomorrow, Oh my god, we're gonna
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Speaker 5: be here and it's gonna be epically cold, flinging all
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Speaker 5: kinds of hot. That's yes. Indeed, thanks to Scott Dolphin
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Speaker 5: who's streaming us as they're eating their their bagel this
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Speaker 5: morning and grabbing a.
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Speaker 4: Coffee, hitting your biscuits and gravy, huddle up and enjoy
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Speaker 5: We'll be huddling again tomorrow at five am, as a
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