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Huddle Up Podcast: Wednesday, May 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,
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  Speaker 1: and John Osher. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome into the Huddle Up Podcast. Today is Wednesday, May twelve.
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  Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Bucky Brooks in NFL Media Analyst, John Ozier,
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com Senior writer. Tebow time, question mark. It's
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  Speaker 1: been polarizing the last couple of days. We'll get to that.
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  Speaker 1: A rookie mini caan't preview changes in the scouting in
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  Speaker 1: personnel department and the schedule at least tonight at eight o'clock. Muckey,
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  Speaker 1: Here we are and we're looking forward to the schedule
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  Speaker 1: release this week. But all the Tim Tebow stuff happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: tebow Manua has taken over, and I just wonder if
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  Speaker 1: this will be look this a flash and playing story
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  Speaker 1: where it's it's temporary. It's because Tebow has been out
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  Speaker 1: for so long, he didn makes his way back to
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  Speaker 1: the league and then after we go a few weeks,
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  Speaker 1: it died down. Or if this is going to be
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  Speaker 1: what it was back in the day, because if it was,
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  Speaker 1: what if his life it was back in the day
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  Speaker 1: where it was the craze and it felt like the
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  Speaker 1: cult following behind them. Then it can be a little annoying,
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  Speaker 1: and I won't say a distraction more of a nuisance
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  Speaker 1: than an annoyance. So hopefully it's not that. Hopefully it's
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  Speaker 1: one of those things where he comes, he makes the
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  Speaker 1: position change, he goes and competes on the field, and
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  Speaker 1: then we see how it turns up. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's gonna be nearly as polarizing because he won't
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  Speaker 1: be playing quarterback. And to me, so much of the
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  Speaker 1: polarizing part was the debate over whether or not he
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  Speaker 1: was good. Remember when he won in Denver in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there was this debate and you
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  Speaker 1: had this argument is he good? Is he not good?
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  Speaker 1: There were people who thought he was a terrible quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: But then you had this success that seemed almost, you know, strange,
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  Speaker 1: where you had the debate and you had to convince
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  Speaker 1: people that he probably was an NFL quarterback. If you
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  Speaker 1: knew people in the NFL who were saying why he
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  Speaker 1: probably wasn't gonna make it, you had to explain that,
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  Speaker 1: and and then there was the accompanying argument. And then
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  Speaker 1: there was the people who would not believe. I think
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  Speaker 1: if he's a tight end, he'll probably be a reserve
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  Speaker 1: tight end. And I just don't know how much legs
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  Speaker 1: a story on the reserve tight end. It will feel
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  Speaker 1: to me sort of like it was in baseball Bucky.
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  Speaker 1: He was a story in baseball when he hit a
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  Speaker 1: home run and then it would disappear off ESPN for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. I'm not minimizing the kid. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure all of this is a story for somebody.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it will be national distracting level story
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  Speaker 1: if he is a contributing tight end. I mean, do
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  Speaker 1: you think do you think I'm gonna have a little
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  Speaker 1: section where I have tebow Mania, where each and every
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  Speaker 1: week we chronicle what Tebow does. Sounds like you just
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  Speaker 1: had the idea. We're you know, it's on the list,
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  Speaker 1: so we're gonna make it, make it happen. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think so. I mean, I I just don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not discount the possibility of it because it
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  Speaker 1: is a phenomenon. But you know, I guess this would
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  Speaker 1: worry me, or I didn't say worry, that's not the
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  Speaker 1: right word, but it would it would interest me more
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  Speaker 1: if he was playing quarterback. But I understand why it's
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  Speaker 1: a story for people nationally, and understand why casual observers
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  Speaker 1: get excited about and get upset about it. But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know that this is much more of a story
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  Speaker 1: than a fourth or fifth guy on the depth chart
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  Speaker 1: trying to make the team. In terms of a football angle, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know where this hurts. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where there's any harm to letting him try. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's a big deal on that front. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that big the deal either. I
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  Speaker 1: think people have made it a bigger story than it
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  Speaker 1: actually is. I think in the locker room that people
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  Speaker 1: come in and get opportunities in various ways. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: basketball players come in who's never played football to get
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity. We've seen track stars come and get workouts
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  Speaker 1: or a glorify stent on training camp rosses and those things.
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  Speaker 1: I think the only reason is big is because Jim,
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  Speaker 1: you bought such a polarizing name, and with it comes
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  Speaker 1: all of the either love or outrage when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to him. I will say this, though, I do wonder
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  Speaker 1: because if you bring him in and let's just say
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  Speaker 1: he carves out a role as a reserve, which is
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  Speaker 1: going to be hard because thirty three, thirty four years old.
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  Speaker 1: You want how much juice he has athletically in his legs.
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  Speaker 1: He can be your emergency quarterback if in doubt, because
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  Speaker 1: you've seen some teams carry only two quarterbacks. And if
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  Speaker 1: you get in a pinch, he can at least take
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  Speaker 1: the snap. You know, he can take a snaphand the
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  Speaker 1: ball off, whatever we want to ask him to throw.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe there's some value to him being I guess
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  Speaker 1: the modern day craft Jensen, albeit a little later in
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  Speaker 1: his in his career that we thought it would be. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you just wonder on that. I feel that. I just
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna be spending so much time trying to
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  Speaker 1: learn how to play tight end. Yeah, in a pinch,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know that it's gonna affect their roster.
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  Speaker 1: Thought on that, I kind of get that, But I
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  Speaker 1: want to ask the X player among us and JP,
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  Speaker 1: that's not you, and it wasn't me. My theory, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: is that I've gotten questions about how to play in
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  Speaker 1: the locker room, and to me, the NFL locker room
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  Speaker 1: NFL players are a very harsh, realistic bunch in this sense,
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  Speaker 1: If Tebow can play, he'll be accepted if he If
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  Speaker 1: he can't, then he won't. And it's not so much.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty gray area that I don't see
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  Speaker 1: that being a concern. Now, if he comes in, which
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen, it becomes the cleared
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  Speaker 1: you can't play, and they keep them on the team,
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  Speaker 1: then it will be a problem. But that's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: But how do you think it'll it'll go in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room on that front, buck from somebody who's been
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  Speaker 1: in that environment, I don't think it would be that
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  Speaker 1: big of a distraction. I think people will will treat
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  Speaker 1: him like you treat some of the guys that come
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  Speaker 1: in astree free agents that you just don't know. You
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  Speaker 1: have to wait and see and see what it looks
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  Speaker 1: like when he plays. I think that's the great thing
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  Speaker 1: about football. I mean, the ultimate deciding fact how he
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  Speaker 1: performs on the field. And if he comes in surprising
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  Speaker 1: and does all that, you can have guys that root
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  Speaker 1: for him. You know. The funny thing is, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: but his last game was was what I mean? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lifetime ago. Like when you think about players saying,
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  Speaker 1: on average three or four years, that's two cycles, they
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  Speaker 1: don't even really remember Tim Tebow. So you have young
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  Speaker 1: guys like, Okay, I need to go and watch if
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  Speaker 1: being Classic or something to see who he is. But
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  Speaker 1: he's not. He's not going to be that in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room, and so he's just gonna be another guy
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  Speaker 1: in there. And then look, by all accounts, he's a
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  Speaker 1: good guy. There'll be some relationships that he developed, but ultimately,
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  Speaker 1: if he's on the team, he will have to be
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  Speaker 1: on the team because he can contribute in some way.
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  Speaker 1: It only gets rocky in the or sideways in the
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  Speaker 1: locker room if he's on the roster and everyone in
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  Speaker 1: the building knows that he can't play, that's when it
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  Speaker 1: become a yeah. To your point, Bucky, I think he's
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  Speaker 1: more of a name for the public and the fans
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  Speaker 1: because of what you said, than he is the NFL players.
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  Speaker 1: You're exactly right. A lot of these guys they obviously
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  Speaker 1: know who Tim Tebow is, but I don't think they
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  Speaker 1: know the details of the story and the polarization stuff
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  Speaker 1: the way that uh the fans. Well, I saw a
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  Speaker 1: tweet the other day. I mean, Trevor Lawrence was what
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  Speaker 1: eight years old when Tim won the Heisman. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's a long time ago. Think about that, right, Another
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  Speaker 1: one could be on the same team together. This is
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  Speaker 1: that five star treatment as always. This weekend it's rookie
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  Speaker 1: mini camp. We'll get a look at it Saturday. It
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  Speaker 1: sounds like John you know, we're not gonna see a
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  Speaker 1: lot of Trevor Lawrence. It feels like, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: off to the side, he's working his way back at
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  Speaker 1: with that surgery on the non throwing shoulder earlier in
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  Speaker 1: the off season. What else you want to see, Johnna?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious about, you know, the burst of
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  Speaker 1: E t N. You won't see any hitting, There's no
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  Speaker 1: pads or any of that stuff. How big is little?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I mean, that's let's see that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 1: And then I want to see Urban on a practice
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  Speaker 1: field with Jaguars football players with the whistle around his
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  Speaker 1: neck doing that thing because we haven't seen that yet.
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  Speaker 1: You Yeah, you're right at JP with Trevor Lawrence probably
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  Speaker 1: being on the side, I'll probably walk over to the
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  Speaker 1: side and see Trevor Lawrence exactly what I'll do, and
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  Speaker 1: and if he's combing his hair, I'll comment on how
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  Speaker 1: beautiful his hair is. Yeah, it's uh kidding aside, that's
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  Speaker 1: still a draw to see this guy in a uniform.
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  Speaker 1: We were talking about it on drivetime, which I know
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  Speaker 1: Bucky saw it on Tuesday morning. There's still something to
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  Speaker 1: seeing him and realizing that it's real. I think it'll
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  Speaker 1: be cool and if they have media availabilities and if
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  Speaker 1: he speaks, that'll still be the story. To a football standpoint,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how much I'm gonna get out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to see t n run I guess
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  Speaker 1: you know. I guess I want to see Walker little
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  Speaker 1: move a little bit. I know I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: seeing to fail a move a little bit, although I
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  Speaker 1: don't know how much you're gonna see in a spring
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  Speaker 1: practice type situation with no pad, so I'm still gonna
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be pretty enamorous Trevor this weekend. JP will
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  Speaker 1: be honest with I mean It's funny because obviously you
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  Speaker 1: want to see the guys go. I think for me
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  Speaker 1: like Trevor's on the side, so we don't get a
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  Speaker 1: chance to see him through it, but kind of would
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  Speaker 1: like to see what urban urban Maya practice looks like
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  Speaker 1: at the NFL level. Does he have changes to highly
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  Speaker 1: conduct practice even though it's Rickie's in US a smaller crew,
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  Speaker 1: as he learns the NFL game and the environment, how
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  Speaker 1: much does he change? How similar does it look to
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  Speaker 1: the way his practice is were in Florida and Ohio State?
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  Speaker 1: Is the ten tho there? How fast and how hard
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  Speaker 1: are they going? And he begins to kind of put
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  Speaker 1: his down because remember this is kind of like an
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  Speaker 1: orientation for him too. It's his first time being on
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  Speaker 1: the field with NFL players, and so he will learn
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  Speaker 1: and I think you'll see some tweaks from the time
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  Speaker 1: that they run on in practice this weekend to the
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  Speaker 1: time that all the vets and everyone comes back and
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  Speaker 1: they start doing O t as in Betteran mini camps.
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  Speaker 1: there's been some recent changes in the front office, Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: combined sixties six years of Jaguars experience is no longer
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  Speaker 1: with the organization. Mark Ellen's College Goutting Director out, Paul Rell,
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  Speaker 1: the assistant College gutting Director, Andy Dangler, assistant director of
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  Speaker 1: player Personnel, and Chris Triggers, director of pro Personnel, all gone.
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  Speaker 1: They survived some changes throughout their time here, Bucky, So
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  Speaker 1: why now it feels like this is a time where
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  Speaker 1: there is a lot of change in scouting and personnel departments.
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  Speaker 1: Why now, you know it's a complete reboot on the organization.
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  Speaker 1: We've seen that from top to bottom. We've seen a
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  Speaker 1: lot of new faces and prominent roles that are now
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  Speaker 1: a part of the mix since coach Meyer's kind of
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  Speaker 1: taken over. And so when you have a new head coach,
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  Speaker 1: you has i would say, most of the power, it's
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  Speaker 1: not all the power in the football part of the equation.
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  Speaker 1: And then you have a new general manager and trem Barky.
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  Speaker 1: Typically what you do is you want guys who are
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  Speaker 1: familiar with your philosophies and the way that you go
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  Speaker 1: about doing business, and those guys have done a really
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  Speaker 1: good job. They've been around for a long time. But
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  Speaker 1: sometimes you just kind of want a fresh perspective as
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  Speaker 1: you're moving forward, and it may be through no farther
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  Speaker 1: of their own. Sometimes you just want your own quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote guys in those roles as you move forward. And
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  Speaker 1: I think we saw that and some of the writing
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  Speaker 1: was on the wall when we saw some of those
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  Speaker 1: guys come in right after Trent Balky got the official
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  Speaker 1: title as a general manager, and you oh, he and
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  Speaker 1: Coach Meyer will put together the front off of the
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  Speaker 1: way they see fit. So look, I'm disappointed with some
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  Speaker 1: of the guys because you know him, but I'm not
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  Speaker 1: surprised because that's kind of the way business is done
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  Speaker 1: in national football. I think it's significant to JP that
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  Speaker 1: that the four who were let going. I'm with Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I I know all four of them. I've
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  Speaker 1: known all four of them for at least ten years.
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  Speaker 1: I'm twenty um, so I certainly wished them well. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's significant that all four were front office guys
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  Speaker 1: and therefore a higher hand in the endgame decision, making
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  Speaker 1: significant the area scouts the guys who are on the
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  Speaker 1: front lines and doing the research. Talking to people at
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  Speaker 1: the colleges did not change. I think people can get
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  Speaker 1: confused by that sometimes, Well, why wouldn't they just get
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  Speaker 1: rid of all the scouts If they're moving into a
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  Speaker 1: new direction, why not make this incredible change? And Bucky,
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  Speaker 1: you've done this before, so tell me the difference. Area
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  Speaker 1: scouts are often information gatherers, and the relationships that they
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  Speaker 1: have at the college are very important. That someway. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you know it's different. The hierarchy is one where
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  Speaker 1: at the top of the trew chain you have the
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  Speaker 1: decision makers, and decision makers don't necessarily need to be
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  Speaker 1: your best scouts. They need to be able to take
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  Speaker 1: in all the information, kind of switch it around and
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  Speaker 1: make a really good decision based on what is in
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  Speaker 1: the best senses of the organization. Your road scouts, your
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  Speaker 1: area scouts, they're kind of the life blood of the
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  Speaker 1: scouting program. Now, some teams operate differently, where the scouts
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  Speaker 1: are your information gatherers, they get the background and they
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  Speaker 1: do all the legwork in their regard. But some teams
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  Speaker 1: employed what I call real scouts, guy that can see it,
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  Speaker 1: guy that can evaluate gods that can give you a true,
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  Speaker 1: honest opinion on how a gall projects to the league. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they do the other stuff, but they evaluate it. And
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  Speaker 1: depending upon how you want to comprise your front office,
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  Speaker 1: you may have more of those guys, because when you
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  Speaker 1: get into the think tank part of the pre jaft process,
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  Speaker 1: you want guys who can give you a real opinion
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  Speaker 1: on whether a guy can play and how he fits
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  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars and so I think Norm baky Uh
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  Speaker 1: pretty well and knowing how he's done business. They want
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  Speaker 1: football guys in those things. They want guys that can
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  Speaker 1: really evaluate, guys to have opinions, and guys that won't
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  Speaker 1: shrink when the room maybe against their opinion. Guys that
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  Speaker 1: stand up and say no, I believe in this player.
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  Speaker 1: I believe this player can play. I'm always fascinating the
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  Speaker 1: guys that you just talked about. The guys who don't
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  Speaker 1: shrink are really important because it's easy to shrink in
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  Speaker 1: that situation. If you've got it, you've got a GM
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  Speaker 1: who's the boss. He says, well, I don't like this guy.
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  Speaker 1: You know. The guy who will stand up and speak
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  Speaker 1: his mind is rare but incredibly important. If that GM
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  Speaker 1: will listen to him, Yeah, it's really important. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: be strong, you gotta have conviction. I think the number
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  Speaker 1: one thing when you talk to young scouts and you're
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  Speaker 1: teaching young scouts, you're saying half conviction, be able to
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  Speaker 1: stand on the table for your guy. Don't worry about
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  Speaker 1: the way the room is leaning, or if it feels
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  Speaker 1: a certain way. Just hey, let's make sure that what
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  Speaker 1: you see, what you wrote in your report, you believe
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  Speaker 1: and then defended. And then there's a time when you
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  Speaker 1: need to back off on it when it comes decision
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  Speaker 1: making time. But when you're presenting the player, go all in.
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  Speaker 1: Do it with conviction. I think, as a young guys
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  Speaker 1: say said with your chest be bold and uh the
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  Speaker 1: way that you do it, because look, when you don't
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  Speaker 1: build a great team with mediocre evaluators and scouts, you
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  Speaker 1: have to have guys that are willing to swing for
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  Speaker 1: the fences and say, hey, I believe this guy is
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  Speaker 1: going to be a really great player. And here's why
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  Speaker 1: I want to see Bucky in a meeting. JP. Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard the phrase pound the table, said stand on
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  Speaker 1: the table. He's up there, he's standing on the table.
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  Speaker 1: Is chest out? He would win that battle against me, right,
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  Speaker 1: we would all buy in what has to say. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's it, and I think you
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  Speaker 1: have to know, man, you gotta have you gotta have
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  Speaker 1: some courage because when you think about the personalities that
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  Speaker 1: a decision makers, you think about coach Meyer and you
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  Speaker 1: think about Balky, those guys are not going to blink
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  Speaker 1: and their big personalities. And if you go up there
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  Speaker 1: meekly saying well you know, um, maybe they don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear that, Like, they're gonna steal you down and
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  Speaker 1: be like yea next all the way. So you have
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  Speaker 1: to build yourself up enough that when you make that
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  Speaker 1: presentation that you can sway them and you can captivate
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  Speaker 1: their attention because if not, you're wasting their talk. And
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  Speaker 1: then you gotta be right down the line too. That
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: also helps you gotta be able to chalk up. And
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: so here's what's funny, Ricky Minicamp coming up. This is
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  Speaker 1: when you're the most anxious as a scout, right because
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: the guy that you put the big ray on, the
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  Speaker 1: guy that you stood up on the table and say, hey,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: my little corner is gonna come in here, he's gonna
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: light it up and then you get there and you
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  Speaker 1: have to see the one on one rips and privably
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. JP and John you see there like,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: come on, we can play. Play. You don't want to
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  Speaker 1: make a play, but you can feel validated, because the
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  Speaker 1: worst thing is when that guy goes along stretch without
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: making a play, or if he looks like he's out
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: of place. That's the problem. When I was in Indie, UM,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Bill Paulian, who was the president at the time, said
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the one thing you don't want is to walk off
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  Speaker 1: that field and see a couple of guys that you
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: know can't make it. He says, so nice it happens.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: There are guys that first day that looks like they
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: don't belong, and it's relatively rare, but it does happen.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: You can show that you don't belong that first day.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Usually can't make the team that day, but that's a
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: nervous day for the guys who banged the table, no doubt.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: That's John Oser and Bucky brooks Son. J F. Shadrick
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  Speaker 1: is the Huddle Up Podcast. We get our final thoughts
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  Speaker 1: today on the schedule of Lease due tonight at eight
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  Speaker 1: o'clock on NFL Network. You'll probably see some leaking on
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Twitter throughout the day. But you know, I'm curious what
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you guys hope for for the Jaguars. I'm I'm all
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: about this prime time game business. There hasn't been enough,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: and well it's probably a good reason why the team
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't been that good and who would want to watch
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: that after eight pm on a national television basis Over
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: the last few years. The last Monday night game the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Jaguars had was The last Sunday night football game the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Jags had was two thousand eight. It's been a long
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: time they've had that divisional prime time game. You know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: it's been on early in the season before those even
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: go on Fox in the past. So I'm gonna think
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: there are three prime time games when this thing is announced.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing a Thursday night divisional game, probably the
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Jets Monday night game, and maybe another like West Coast
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: gave either the Rams or the Seahawks on a Monday night.
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  Speaker 1: That would be mine. I know that's a long Monday
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: night trip to come back from, but you know, hey,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I gotta earn it. That's my thought. Bucky, what do
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: what do you want out of the schedule for the Jags.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I just want to them to have
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to get on prime time, to show the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: football world they look it's a new time, Coach Meyer,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, everyone getting it done. That's what I want
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to see, all right. First of all, guys, you know
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: what I want. I want seventeen one o'clock home games
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: because then I can drive home and be in bed
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: by nine o'clock. So that's priority A. But JP, I
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: don't know that we're gonna I get there. Everybody's excited
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: about it, but I don't know that this is the
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: year that we're going to see a bunch of primetime games.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: They were still one in fifteen. They are still a
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: smaller market that is not performed in a long time.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So I think you'll see the Thursday night game for sure.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping for the fans sake for a primetime home
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: game on Monday night. I don't think there's any way
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: in the world they get a Sunday night game. I
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: think that you definitely have to earn your way to that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: But I think two is when you're gonna start seeing
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: the big jump. And I just wonder about this year.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping, but uh, you know, the realist in me
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: says perhaps not. And John Tuesday reports by The Athletic
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: that London is in play again and the Jags would
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: host one of two games that totten to Motspur Stadium
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in North London. We'll see the details of that tonight,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: it sounds like, and I guess that's going to be
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: until it's not. I mean, we'll see what the plans
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: are what you never know what the COVID and all
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: that stuff going on. My impression is that obviously the
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Jaguars want to be there in terms of day one
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: A prisons in London. Shot Con has made that clear
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that will be the case until he
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: says it's not. So I know some fans don't love it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I know other fans don't mind it. The UK fans
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: who we've got to know a little bit JP obviously
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: most of them like it. To me, I think it's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just something that it is going to be a fact
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of life until they say it's not. And I'm assuming
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: that Urban Meyers on board with it, because if it's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: going on now then he has to be on board
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  Speaker 1: with it. So cheers to you, I guess I'll have
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: a point for the Jags. I guess, I guess we
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: all will. Maybe at that point. That'll do it for
• 21:22
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• 21:26
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• 21:29
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