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Eat the Rich… in Balenciaga? The Zohran Mamdani Aesthetic | Episode 5 · Sincerely American

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I can't wrap my head around these champagne socialist
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liberals that vote for policies that harm woman like us.
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Basically making money from the same capitalist system that they
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claim to hate. These people will vote like a
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Zoron or they'll vote for like a Bernie Sanders, whether it be
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like nationalizing grocery stores while this girl goes off
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to the most expensive swamp market in the Hamptons, doing
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her little hauls and showing her like $30 salad.
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When you go on your screen, you talk to your screen on ticket,
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talk to thousands and thousands of people, to me, you look
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stupid. When you're advocating against
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being tough on crime and you're advocating to defund the police,
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that to me, it just shows that they're not educated voters at
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all. But she's unboxing Dior, Prada,
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Chanel every other day. Is she donating that to the
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immigrants? And I'm like, if you really live
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by that, then stop buying these designer things.
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And I agree, donate that to charity.
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It's giving AOC at the Met Gallo.
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There is nothing more capitalist than fashion.
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Hi sincerely sisters, and welcome back to Sincerely
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American. OK, you guys, I have to be
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honest right now. I don't know why I am so sick.
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And I know you're going to be like Jamie, last episode you
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said that you were sick. We're going to be just straight
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up honest Cam Cam, we love her, but she's going on like a little
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trip. So we're filming a little closer
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together. We're doing a little bit more of
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a pre film today which is why my voice sounds like this, so
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please bear with me and I hope you guys are too turned off by
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my crackly voice. It's our one year anniversary,
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me and my husband, so we're celebrating that.
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So we had a film a little bit closer together, but I know you
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guys will love it, so let's get into it.
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Let's get into it. OK?
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I'm excited about this one. I feel like I say that every
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time. This one I've been like waiting
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to talk about. OK, let's roll the clip.
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Brianna, good morning. Look who just woke up from her
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nap. Ohh.
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Today we're going to go shopping, go to the supermarket.
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Oh my God, look at look at her little outfit today.
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So for our listening audience, it says POV, an influencer who
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doesn't show their baby but vlogs them anyways.
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And this fake mom is like putting an emoji over her like
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cat and dog and stuff throughout this video to like make fun of
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like those influencer moms who like, you know, do that with
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their baby all the time. And I just love I laugh so hard
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when I watch this. I'm like, I have to put this in
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the show. I honestly, I want to 1st
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acknowledge though, like parents who do this, I do think in the
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end, I never want to assume Mal intent with parents.
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Obviously you want what's best for your child.
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And so for somebody who doesn't have kids, I'm obviously going
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to assume that these parents have good intentions.
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But to me, honestly, Jamie, this comes off as a little
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performative because it feels like they're trying to virtue
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signal in a way. Like when I see emojis over
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these children's face, like I you can still see the child's
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like body. You can still see like the
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background of the photo, like maybe a little bit of the
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location. Sometimes you can still see
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their school uniforms, so it that can all be identifying and
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exploited. Yeah, You know, this is a hard
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one because I, you know, as someone who obviously is a mom
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and you want to do everything you can to protect your kids, I
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completely get that. I'm so sympathetic to that.
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Like, I understand better than anyone.
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But I think you're right. It does come off a little virtue
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signaling. And I get like parents that
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like, literally don't want their kids on the Internet at all.
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It's something I grapple with. Vivian just looks so cute
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sometimes I just can't help myself.
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But I do think though, like if you don't want your kids on the
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Internet, then don't have them on the Internet.
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Like I don't really get this halfway point where you're
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putting an emoji over their face.
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Like just keep your kids off the Internet completely.
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That like they'll vlog about their lives, like in way more
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detail than I would ever show, like with Vivian's life, for
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example, and then have the emoji over it the entire time.
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So it's like either, you know, have your kid on, I guess, or
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completely take them off. And just like no emoji
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whatsoever. It it does feel virtue
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signaling. It's like I'm such a great mom
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that I'm doing this and I'm going above and beyond it.
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It's just I don't know. Well from a logical standpoint I
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feel like it's counter intuitive because the action really isn't
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lining up with their goal. Their goal is to protect your
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child's privacy and your safety. Then you should just keep them
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off the Internet. Yeah, I completely agree.
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And I also don't really understand fully the argument
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about it because like I completely get that there's like
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weirdos online, right? Like there's totally creepy
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people and stuff. And for me, like with our safety
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of our family, I just keep where I live extremely private.
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You will never see me post anywhere where I live, any
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around our neighborhood. I take a bunch of cute pictures
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of Vivian all the time. But if it's anywhere close to
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where we live, like I'll do photos, like far away because I
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like don't ever want people to know our location, especially
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being involved in politics. So I do understand to an extent,
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like that safety thing. But I don't know, I just I don't
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really get the full argument because like, I don't get why,
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you know, the face makes a difference in this.
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If they put the face or not, it's it's just like I said, it's
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going back. It's giving in this house.
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We believe that Black lives matter.
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Science is real. Immigrants are humans or
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whatever that whole diatribe is. Women are taken seriously or you
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know what I'm talking about. It's giving that sign outside.
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And so I'm just kind of like, keep your kids off and then
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they'll be like, you know, a lot of these mom influencers will be
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like, I don't want to profit off my kids.
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And yeah, I get that. Like it is giving like childhood
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actor to an extent to like, you know, have like your whole
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profit and your whole company based off your kids.
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But they kind of are because they continue to do the same
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exact content, like I said, with just the emoji over the face.
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So they are profiting off of being a mom and doing like all
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these corporate deals and stuff on Instagram and putting out
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those videos. So once again, I go back to I'm
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not even judging someone that does it, but like I'm, I'm going
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back to like I don't really it's it's just given virtue signal.
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Exactly. And and you're trying to be
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private, but you're doing something public like posting.
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To me it's just not logical. Speaking of virtue signaling,
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this is very easy to head into. Our next topic I wanted to call
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out because I cannot tell you guys if you spent any time on
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TikTok like I have and you follow any influencer or you
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know, on the for you page, they're always coming up.
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There's a bunch of these like honestly, like, let's just be
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for real white girls in their 20s that are either making all
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these influencer deals are kind of living off of daddy's money.
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No judgement there. Like we've all been there.
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But and they're just preaching these far left progressive
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values. And this video in particular
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made me laugh because someone kind of called them out for
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this. So this is Hannah Chodi and she
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I see her all the time. She's preaching far left values
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all the time. And so she was responding in
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this video to a comment. And the comment says it's so
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funny that you can waste so much money and hold this sign.
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And for reference, she this it was in response to a video where
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she was holding up a sign at a protest that says that it.
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Does not say RSVP on the Statue of Liberty and.
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Then this person continued. At the same time, those glasses
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alone could feed at least 10 and we'll roll the full clip so.
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Comments like these are why Democrats can't win elections.
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I can take criticism but the amount of infighting from the
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left and this absurd standard of perfection is so harmful to the
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party. Because what do you mean we are
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on the same side And you are criticizing me for marching to
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defend democracy but because I'm wearing designer sunglasses it's
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not OK. People can be multifaceted.
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I can enjoy buying nice things but also vote for progressive
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tax policy. And then in addition to this
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clip, I wanted to also play this because this just showed up on
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my page this morning and I was like, oh, I want to add this in
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Hot people Vote. This is Hallie Kate playing her
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video and she goes Zora, Mum, Donnie, to be exact.
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This girl is a New York City influencer.
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She is always on my page. And for our listening audience,
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she is wearing a fur mink jacket.
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That can't be cheap, carrying her Balanciaga bag in it and
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she's wearing some designer jeans.
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It's. Giving AOC at the Met Gala when
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she wore that dress, saying something about the rich like
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these girls are claiming like eat the rich but yet you're
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dripped out in designer that cost thousands of dollars.
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You know, OK, so I grew up in Northern California as you guys
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know. How many times have I literally
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said that lol. I kind of could respect like the
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old school, you know, I went to Berkeley, the old school
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Berkeley liberals who would like literally climb up into a tree
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and protest climate change and like not move and literally send
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down their like feces in a bucket for people.
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And like these people were like the live off the land type
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people. Like we're not using electricity
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type of vibe. I, I kind of can respect like
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the granola hippie type, these champagne socialists and
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limousine liberals. I can't take you seriously.
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And Hannah, you deserve to be called out for this.
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You're literally wearing a couple $1000 sunglasses while
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protesting your stupid immigrants thing.
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And you know what? I can't stand Cameron.
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These people will vote like a Zoe run or they'll vote for like
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a Bernie Sanders or these democratic socialists right
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where they want to tax all these people.
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And I'm like, if you really live by that, then stop buying these
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designer things. And I agree, donate that to
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charity and you should live off the land.
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You should live very bare bones and give all of your money that
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you make away to other people. But instead they vote for the
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rest of us. And this is the thing.
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If this is a virtue signal to vote for everybody else to be
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taxed and not your own money, for example, that is virtue
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signaling and that's actually not real charity work there and
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you shouldn't feel good about that.
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It's just. Confusing to me because I think
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they want to look rich while like claiming and preaching that
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like being rich is bad. It's it's just it does not make
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sense to me. These brands are basically
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making money from the same capitalist system that they
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claim to hate there. Is nothing more capitalist than
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fashion so if you're going into the fashion industry, and that's
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what I love about all these clothing brands in Vogue
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magazine, fashion is just like opulence.
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It's over the top, no one needs it's designer stuff At the end
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of the day, if you're really living that like socialist
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lifestyle, this is all luxury items for the most part, even
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having 50 different outfits, you technically really don't need.
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Us as capitalists, we love fashion and we can fully admit
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we love buying ourself. We love contributing to the
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economy. We love that we have the freedom
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to be able to express ourselves. That's what's amazing about a
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free market system and capitalism.
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So I don't we're not hypocrites because we love doing that, but
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these socialists are complete hypocrites.
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And I will say this as well, that Hallie Kate girl, she comes
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up on my feet all the time. She has fun videos.
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I'm I'm not trying to like tear her down, but she's unboxing
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Dior Prada Chanel every other day.
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Is she donating that to the immigrants?
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No, she's enjoying the perks of the system that you say is
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unfair. And by the way, she also this
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was another see, I'm I'm all up to date you guys on New York
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City influencers like I I low key love the content I.
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Do love them? Yeah.
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I I. Love the content, but we just
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got to be honest about this whole thing.
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She went viral, I think it was like a year and a half ago for
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being punched in the face by some psychopath in New York
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City. And now she's wanting Zoron, who
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wants to let basically people out of jail because Zoron
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Mundani's like, defund the police.
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He was all for that. He's for, you know, sending the
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social workers instead of the policeman to go, you know, aid
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in a bad crime. And so, honey, you've lived
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through the chaos of New York City and you're continuing to
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vote. I just don't get being a young
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woman. I think you can speak to this,
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Cameron. Like, when I'm in a city, I am
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nervous all the time because there are weirdos all the time.
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And when you're a cute young woman who's not, you know, big
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and masculine, you do have a target on your back to be
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harassed and, you know, maybe even assaulted.
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And so I can't wrap my head around these champagne socialist
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liberals that vote for policies that harm woman like us.
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Well, I would say majority of New York City like actually
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doesn't want to defund the police if anything, because
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they've seen the crime over the past couple years, they've seen
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the subway attacks, they've seen, you know, people getting
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shot in broad daylight and they're not for that.
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So when you go on your screen, you talk to your screen on
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TikTok to thousands and thousands of people, to me, you
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look stupid when you're advocating against being tough
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on crime and you're advocating to defund the police.
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That, to me, it just shows that they're not educated voters at
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all. No, they're just doing this to,
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you know, be applauded by a a lot of these other liberal girls
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who follow because, you know, a lot of young women are obviously
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liberal leaning. But I will say, if you go
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through the comments, you guys, people were not a big fan,
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especially Hallie Kates. People are really calling out,
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you know, Zoron for the crazy policies that he's putting
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forward, whether it be like nationalizing grocery stores
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while this girl goes off to the most expensive swamp market in
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the Hamptons doing her little hauls and showing her like $30
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salad that she gets from there. Meanwhile, she's like,
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nationalize the grocery stores that in New York City.
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Girl, please save us. We know you like your luxury
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fashion. We know you like your swamp
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market salads and stop ruining it for the rest of us.
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I just can't do it. Where?
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Has that been successful? Like look at Venezuela, look at
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all these places who have done none of these things have
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succeeded. So again, uneducated.
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OK, we're switching gears entirely.
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I just wanted a little bit of a laugh here.
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I was playing this clip and I feel like our audience can
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relate to this so hard. So I was like, I just have to
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throw this in this episode. OK, so here it is for a
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listening audience. It says.
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I just remembered that the sheets and duvet cover are in
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the dryer and almost rather book a hotel room for the night than
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deal with that. Same.
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And I would say to you girls like, you know, just get a
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separate duvet cover like that you can put on while your duvet
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is in the wash and in the dryer. But I haven't even done that so.
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Why? I haven't even thought of that.
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That's actually really smart. I swear to God, washing my bed
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sheets is like the complete vein of my existence.
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And not to get gross, I get spray tans all the time so they
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need to be washed on a regular basis.
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But my daughter, God bless her, she sleeps in my bed and so she
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takes her nap in the middle of the day.
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So I cannot explain to you how difficult it is to wash and get
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everything dried and put it on. And the amount of times I've
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been like sitting, like on the couch, it's 11:00 PM and I'm
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like, OK, it's time to get to bed.
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And then it hits me. I haven't put my duvet cover on
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and it's sitting in the dryer and I'm like, can someone kill
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me? Seriously.
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No. Why is it always at night when
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the realization hits? Yeah, after, like, it'll be like
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a Friday night after like, a glass of wine and you're like,
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just like, OK, I'm going to go to bed.
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And then you go in and like none of your sheets are on.
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And yet. Yeah.
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And you're like, you're spinning in that duvet cover, fluffing it
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and everything. Or sleep.
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On the couch or sleep in a guest room if you have one.
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I normally end up doing that. Have you ever been like, have
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you ever been like so desperate that you like go into bed
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without your sheets? I've done that one time with
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some. Blankets.
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It's like a blanket night where you file on those blankets I.
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Will say it's always worth it like once you climb into bed
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like nothing is better than like getting into bed with like a
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fresh sheets on and everything and it's all warm and cozy.
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But also can we talk about this too?
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How hard is it to dry all your crap together when it's in
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there? Like I swear it takes like 50
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cycles for me to dry my like duvet sheets and pillow covers
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and everything. Same.
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Even when I take the lint out of that little lint box, it still
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takes me at least three cycles in order to dry all of that
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stuff, and then I have to end up separating it each time for it
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to fully dry We. Need an invention to make that
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better. Like truly I agree.
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Now this was another for our last section in Gappy Hour.
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This was another funny one that I just wanted to throw in there
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as well. It says selfie putting the
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stranger in front of me's bins away at TSA.
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And then he put in the caption. I can't help that I'm an Angel.
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You guys like clean up your bins at TSAII.
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Just hate that. Like I feel like people are so
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lazy in this day and age as we just talked about being lazy.
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But so yeah. Very mindful, very demure of
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him, I will agree. But society they've gotten it's
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gotten so lazy in general. I mean, I see this with
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obviously, like the travelers in the airports, customers, service
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agents, taking a million years to get to you after you listen
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to the automated voice, whoever you're calling, even like people
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when you go into like, a Zara or wherever, like everything's
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disorganized. You can't find anything.
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And also with the tipping culture to where people are
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ringing up your order and turning the screen around and
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they expect you to give like, this massive tip for just
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plugging in your order. I do not understand this in
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society now. Yeah.
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The tipping culture is out of control.
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But I also will say this, I'm kind of I've come down where I
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feel like customer service is really bad everywhere you go,
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But at the same time, I will stand up for like a minimum wage
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employees. Like I feel like also the
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general populace is so lazy. Like the fact that you just
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leave out your bins or like I hate when you go grocery
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shopping. People just like leave their
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grocery cart out in the middle of the parking lot.
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And like I'm not claiming that I'm like some holier or now
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person people like I have my flaws.
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But I will say this anywhere I go, I always think to myself, I
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never want to be like an inconvenience to like a minimum
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wage employee. Like whether that mean you don't
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like throwing your trash away or when you're in a dressing room,
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like making sure you hang up all your stuff, especially if you
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don't buy something and you're that annoying person that tried
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on 50 million things and like hang yourself like us.
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Yeah, but like hang your stuff back up.
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So like it's not annoying for the employee.
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And I just the TSA thing to it like crams all up.
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I always put my bin away as well.
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Like I just think that's like a culture that you should uphold.
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And I do think this like speaks to just like, I don't know,
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there's just no courtesy culture in our country anymore.
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It's like everybody out for themselves, living for
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themselves. And I do get like probably a lot
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of these minimum wage employees are burnt out from just cleaning
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up after people's SHIT all the time.
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You can't buy class or one piece of advice to everybody listening
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and just be more considerate of others, yeah.
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And I will say this is what gets to me about like a lot of these
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liberal leftists, like they think that they're just good
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people for like doing their virtue signaling and putting up
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like, I believe in all of these things and stuff.
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Actually, I think how to improve society is just clean up after
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yourself, to be honest. Like I think that goes 1,000,000
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more miles than your stupid protests that you guys all line
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up for and carry your signs. Then post it on your Instagram
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so you look so great in front of everyone.
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Instead, do the quiet things behind the scenes that actually
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make people's lives easier. And I cannot tell you like throw
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away your trash. I hate people that litter.
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There's like crap everywhere all over our cities nowadays.
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Nowadays, like just do the basic things that improve people's
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lives and I just think that goes 1,000,000 more miles.
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And but that's the thing with these liberals, they like to
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have the camera on them and they like to virtue signal for the
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social credit. They don't like to do any of the
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behind the scenes work. All right, you guys, we're going
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to switch gears into our next segment.
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I have no words. This one I really don't have any
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words for. This is Shay Mitchell and I hate
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to see this, you guys, because truly I want to support her.
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I loved Pretty Little Liars as a child, like not even as a child,
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as a teenager. I love that show so much and I
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love her like suitcase brand and everything.
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So I want to be supportive of her.
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But this clip came up on call her Daddy.
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And this is actually from a while ago, but you know how like
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clips will be recycled on your TikTok.
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So I just saw this and I'm like, Oh, we have to throw this in
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here. So let's play that for.
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Me, I like the term partner. He is my partner.
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He's my partner in a lot of things.
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He helps me so much with my business.
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Obviously we're partners in raising our girls together.
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He's my partner in life that we're living right now, and I
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like it. How?
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Does he feel about the term partner I.
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Don't know if he loves it. I don't know if he loves it.
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You know, sometimes he'll be on calls and he's like in my wife.
19:48
And I'm like, what? You know, And I'm always like,
19:53
I'm not because I'm like, like, I want it like I'm like.
19:59
Why do you think that is? Why I don't like the word.
20:02
Why? Yeah.
20:02
I don't know. I just like I'm not and he's not
20:05
my heart. Like, I don't know.
20:07
Your pardon. I love like, I think like
20:09
girlfriend is cute and like I we met when I was 19 and I love
20:12
that. Like we weren't girlfriend and
20:14
boyfriend at that point, but I love the I love, I love that.
20:19
Like I'm like his, I'm like his girlfriend.
20:21
Yeah, I just, to me, I don't know why she even got married in
20:24
the 1st place. Like if you're saying you don't
20:26
like the label wife quote, UN quote, then like and still
20:29
choosing marriage, you're wanting the benefits of
20:31
tradition, like having a ceremony, saying vows to that
20:34
person, you know, having that level of commitment without
20:37
accepting the role and the title that comes with that one.
20:41
I think this is like incredibly disrespectful to her husband.
20:44
I mean, it's her husband and she is her wife and like, she even,
20:48
you know, kind of mentioned that her husband doesn't like this.
20:50
And here she is, like sharing this on, you know, one of the
20:52
biggest podcasts in the entire world.
20:54
So 1 Disrespectful 2. I think you touched something
20:57
important there, Cameron. I think a lot of these like
21:01
liberal and leftist, they don't want to be hypocritical because
21:04
they want to stick to the Super Uber feminist progressive
21:07
ideology. But at the same time, like you
21:09
said, they do like to reap the benefits of tradition because
21:13
that is where at the end of the day, our human spirit belongs
21:17
and people naturally go towards marriage, even though this
21:21
feminist ideology is crammed down our throats.
21:23
They do want that relationship and that partnership with one
21:25
another, but they're uncomfortable by those titles
21:28
because they we know that it is like marriage and being a wife
21:31
and being a husband is conservative coded.
21:34
So you can see that they're uncomfortable with this.
21:35
And like I've even seen some rhetoric on TikTok too, where
21:38
people are talking about that they feel uncomfortable wearing
21:40
white at a wedding because white is supposed to be like you're a
21:42
virgin and you're pure, right? And you know, even their father
21:46
walking them down the aisle. And this even goes into the
21:48
debate about taking your husband's last name, for
21:50
example. So a lot of these women do
21:52
struggle with these more traditional gender norms in
21:55
their progressive society that they live in.
21:58
And I think they go back and forth in their mind and I'm
22:01
like, girls just embrace tradition and just know
22:03
everything's beautiful and more amazing on our side.
22:07
And I'm glad that I don't have to do like these mental
22:09
gymnastics on a regular basis just to live a happy life well.
22:12
And if you watch the actual clip itself too, like you know you
22:16
have a bad take when Alex Cooper is even pressing you on it.
22:19
Like you can see in her face she does disagree with that.
22:22
But rejecting reality while she's trying to participate in
22:26
it, it's just a very low IQ take in my opinion.
22:29
And and she's emasculating her husband, like you said in front
22:32
of millions, thousands and thousands of people who watch
22:35
that podcast. I always.
22:36
Say this like, imagine if the roles were reversed, but let's
22:38
imagine if the roles were reversed and her husband was
22:41
going on a podcast being like, I don't really feel comfortable
22:43
calling my wife a wife. I call her a partner or I kind
22:45
of even how she talked about like a girlfriend's cute.
22:48
I like that better. And like if he like downgrades
22:51
her to that role, like that is down grading and it's
22:53
disrespectful. Whenever I hear someone call
22:56
like their significant other, their partner, it's low key
23:00
giving gay Yeah. I think that you're a gay couple
23:03
when you do that. We for.
23:04
Sure, Brianna put up this meme where it's like, OK for a
23:07
listening audience. It's like this little Chihuahua
23:09
making a face. And it shows like the LGBTQ
23:11
flag. And it's like when someone
23:12
refers to their significant other as a partner, Like it is
23:16
kind of giving that. Yeah, I agree.
23:18
I mean, when you get married, obviously I want to be
23:21
somebody's wife as much as like that man wants to be your
23:24
husband. You should be embracing that
23:26
and. You guys, marriage is rooted in
23:28
biblical values. It's rooted in, you know,
23:31
religion, tradition, in Christianity and stuff.
23:34
So to an extent, as much as I promote marriage, but if you
23:38
don't believe in any of that, then why are you getting
23:40
married? Agreed.
23:41
What's the point Mic drop if? You're going to be a liberal
23:44
feminist and actually live by what you're saying instead of
23:46
pulling this halfway in halfway out stuff and say just do
23:51
better. OK you guys, we're transitioning
23:53
it to our next topic. Let's bring up our non-toxic
23:57
advice and as always, you guys write in the best questions.
24:04
We love hearing from you. If you haven't written in a
24:07
question or you want to write in another one, go to
24:10
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24:13
Ask a question and you guys can put your name and where you
24:15
live. But if you're scared to do that,
24:17
you don't have to. You can always lie.
24:19
So here we are today with Liberty from Utah.
24:23
We love your name Liberty. After hearing your take on you
24:28
are single until married, I'm wondering what your thoughts are
24:31
on hanging out with other men while in a relationship.
24:36
I'm currently in a relationship but I'm wondering what your take
24:39
is on hanging out and getting to know other men.
24:41
Would it be wrong for me to hang out while I'm in this
24:43
relationship? Here's my thing, I just do not
24:46
understand these modern day labels of boyfriend and
24:48
girlfriend because in the eyes of God like you have not said
24:51
vows to that person. You guys aren't under in a
24:54
covenant together whatsoever. You do not owe him that
24:58
commitment. I know a boyfriend would
25:00
probably disagree when I say this, but you should be able to
25:04
hang out with other men. Now, I do think that you should
25:06
hang out in a more appropriate setting, but I wouldn't let that
25:10
hold you back because you're not in that level of a commitment
25:15
with a boyfriend I. Think if you're in a
25:17
relationship with the love of your life and you know,
25:19
obviously people typically don't just get married right away,
25:21
right There is that courting phase, that boyfriend girlfriend
25:24
phase, and then the engagement phase.
25:25
It sounds like you're in this boyfriend girlfriend phase.
25:28
If this is the love of your life, then you wouldn't even be
25:31
asking this question. If I'm being honest with you,
25:33
I'm going to say that because I know this like when I met Drake,
25:36
like I never thought about another guy again.
25:38
And I think that like speaks to that, you know, that's the love
25:41
of your life. So I'm going to be honest with
25:43
you, Liberty. The fact that you're even asking
25:45
this question does make me think that this is not the guy for
25:47
you. And that's OK, Hun.
25:49
That's why you're not married yet.
25:50
So I think that this is a testament to, you know, if you
25:55
know this is the person for you, you're going to be only eyes on
25:59
them, right? But I will say this, a lot of
26:01
people think about guy friends in relationships and stuff.
26:04
And I think a guy friend is OK. And it's OK to like be talking
26:08
to people at work or whatever and keeping your options open
26:10
until like we always say, you have that ring on your finger
26:13
and the second that ring is on your finger, the door is closed.
26:16
There's no talking to other guys and filling out different
26:19
situations. And I do think also this is a
26:23
hot take when you are married, I don't think you should be having
26:25
one-on-one things of guy friends at all.
26:28
It's not to say like you can't have a guy friend, but that
26:30
needs to be like through your husband as well.
26:32
Just like similarly to your husband having like a
26:35
girlfriend, like a friend who's a girl, like that should be
26:38
hanging out all together. Like, I do think it's weird when
26:40
people are married and like go and, you know, hang out with the
26:42
opposite sex. I just I'm not even saying
26:44
you're cheating or anything, but I just don't think that's like
26:47
actually very respectful to your partner.
26:48
I think it needs to be a group thing.
26:50
Boundaries in a marriage are more black and white.
26:52
Like you said, you shouldn't have guy friends.
26:54
You should be fully committed to that person.
26:56
You should not even be entertaining other options as
26:58
that is like very highly disrespectful and you're
27:00
breaking your covenant. But when you're in a boyfriend,
27:03
girlfriend relationship, I will not lie, there is some Gray area
27:06
to move around in and you should explore your options.
27:09
You should be pursuing the person who is ready to lock it
27:12
down and see you as somebody who is a serious component of their
27:15
future, wants you to be the mother of their children.
27:18
So until you have that, I would say explore your options.
27:21
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
27:23
Obviously we're not advocating for you to be super sketchy like
27:27
going to somebody else's his house late at night, but if you
27:30
meet them in a work setting or a more appropriate environment, we
27:32
say go for it. I.
27:33
Mean we met our husbands that way, so we did.
27:37
What is it? Don't let your boyfriend stop
27:39
you. From Finding Your Husband.
27:40
Exactly. I would say that Liberty, you
27:43
can keep your options open until you got a ring on your finger.
27:46
No cheating you guys, but if you find someone that you connect
27:48
with more, I think it's totally fine until you got that ring on
27:52
your finger and then it's done. OK girls, moving on to our next
27:57
question. Totally different topic Kennedy
27:59
from Michigan is asking. I'm not good at doing my hair
28:02
and need some advice. What is your hair routine and
28:05
what products and hot tools do you guys use to style it?
28:08
I love this question just because I remember at 20 years
28:11
old, I was not doing my hair correctly.
28:13
I also had blonde blindness where I wasn't getting the type
28:18
of blonde that was going to compliment my skin color.
28:20
And thank goodness actually for TikTok and social media and like
28:24
seeing the color analysis and like all these different trends
28:27
of that. But I will say you have to have
28:30
situational awareness of what is best for your hair.
28:33
What climate do you live in? Are you bleaching it?
28:35
Are you putting color on it? And so for me, I will say like I
28:38
love the K-18 leave in conditioner.
28:41
I love a heat protectant because Jamie and I do this show, we
28:44
have new sets throughout the week and so we're putting a lot
28:47
of hot tools on our hair. So having a good heat
28:50
protectant, I use the one from Karastasa.
28:53
That 1 is really great. I also use an oil to make sure
28:56
that my hair is like staying that it's not getting frizzy.
28:58
I mean, on camera and pureology, I love Pureology shampoo and
29:02
conditioner. I use, I don't know which one it
29:04
is, but I use the purple bottle. I believe that's for hydration.
29:08
And lastly, I will note I do use a detoxifying shampoo because if
29:13
you shampoo your hair and you don't feel that like squeaky
29:17
cleanness on your scalp, then you're not getting rid of that
29:20
build up in those oils that you have from, you know, your
29:23
Hairspray or anything else that is in your scalp.
29:26
So having that detoxifying shampoo is going to change the
29:30
game, I promise. But I also just style my hair
29:33
with a Dyson. I know that's expensive.
29:34
They actually have dupes on the market like Shark and things
29:37
like that. But I do love my Dyson.
29:39
If you get the opportunity to invest in something, it's very
29:41
high value and it's worth it. Yeah.
29:43
You know, I've had gone through so much with my hair.
29:45
I have I'm actually even to this day, like not super good at
29:48
doing my hair, but I think I've gotten better.
29:50
Here's my full hair care routine.
29:52
So one, I love this brand. It's called Monday.
29:55
They have great shampoo and conditioner and also dry
29:57
shampoo. Dry shampoo is like your biggest
30:00
best friend and it's really cheap, to be honest.
30:02
And I was using super expensive products for my hair and
30:05
honestly, I didn't like the results as much as this.
30:07
And so when I'm in the shower, I double wash my hair a lot of
30:11
times because I do let my hair go a few days, you know, when
30:14
I'm on camera and stuff and they'll have a few days where
30:15
I'm just being a mom at home, I'll let my hair like kind of
30:17
go. I think like wash your hair as
30:19
little as you can and style your hair as little as you can too
30:22
would be my biggest recommendation so you don't get
30:24
a lot of damage. When I was working with my nine
30:26
to five job, I got so much damage in my hair because one, I
30:29
wasn't using the right products and two, I was just using so
30:31
much heat on it. But anyway, that double wash
30:33
really like cleanses, like make sure you're getting that foam in
30:36
your scalp. Really get in there and make
30:37
sure you wash out all of your shampoo.
30:39
I know that sounds like a very simple thing, but you'd be
30:41
surprised by how many people like leave residue in their hair
30:44
like by not fully getting their shampoo out.
30:46
Then I have had the Dyson. So this is where I'm going to go
30:49
a little bit different than Cameron.
30:51
I own the Dyson. I do, I use only one of the
30:55
tools from it. I use that round brush thing.
30:57
But to be honest, to get most of my hair dry, I will put up like
31:01
the crown of my hair into a thing and just blow dry for a
31:03
regular hair dryer and kind of blow it down as straight as I
31:06
can and run a brush through it to kind of get that straight
31:09
thing. And then I'll go and buy Dyson
31:11
with that, the round brush attachment.
31:13
But you don't even need the Dyson that there's a lot of
31:15
round brush attachments that you can get for a cheaper price.
31:18
And I'll go in and kind of go upwards with it to get, you
31:22
know, one that frizz out, but two, that volume at the crown of
31:25
my head, then let it all fall down.
31:28
And then what I do, I go section by section with a bio ionic
31:31
curling iron and I do it in the 1.25 inch.
31:34
You guys, that curling iron is amazing.
31:36
And I go through my whole hair and then I usually separately
31:39
like roll my bangs, like my kind of like bangs parts here.
31:42
I roll it in a hair roller and I keep it up and then I take that
31:46
out and so it kind of has like a swoop effect and like I said,
31:48
and then a lot of Hairspray, hair oil and all of that, yeah.
31:52
I will say too, if you're somebody who has damaged hair or
31:55
you live in like a drier climate and you need the hydration, one
31:58
thing I will say is when you're washing your hair, also make
32:01
sure to rub the shampoo in your hands and activate all of the
32:05
ingredients in order to get that built up residue out of your
32:09
scalp. What has changed the game for me
32:11
because I do put like color in my hair.
32:14
I do bleach it some. I've been doing mostly low
32:17
lights, but obviously that's that's not really relevant.
32:19
Get a satin pillow pillowcase because that won't take all of
32:22
the natural oils out of your hair where it's like dirty on
32:25
your pillowcase. And make sure to wash your
32:27
pillowcases every week. A lot of people don't do that.
32:30
It's a small thing to do, but I promise it does change the game.
32:33
Yeah, I totally agree. And that is actually a big thing
32:36
grand up in California. It's a very dry climate and so
32:39
moving out East and having to learn to deal with humidity has
32:42
been a lot. And I will say dry shampoo is
32:43
really helpful in that and Hairspray to get down that
32:46
frizzies as well. So it's all about learning for
32:49
your climate and everything. And the hard part about hair is
32:52
that different hair routines work for different people and
32:54
stuff. But that is our hair routine
32:56
there, you guys. And now shifting gears back into
32:59
a more serious topic for our last question comes from Sarah
33:03
from Germany. We love our foreign fans out
33:06
there and here. She asked about faith so she
33:10
said. I'd love to hear your thoughts
33:12
on faith journeys, what yours looks like, and if you have any
33:16
advice for someone to reaffirm their relationship with Christ.
33:19
I was raised Roman Catholic but overtime drifted away from the
33:22
church and honestly fell out of love with it.
33:24
Lately I felt a strong pull to return to Christ and the desire
33:28
is there, but I'm struggling to understand how to begin that
33:31
journey again. What would that look like in
33:34
practice to you? I.
33:35
Think this is so beautiful because it just shows knows that
33:37
God really has planted that seed in your heart and now you just
33:41
have to water it and it's going to continue to grow and so I
33:44
think this was a really big step for you to ask this question.
33:47
We me and Jamie really appreciate this.
33:49
I would say one get to know God a little bit more.
33:52
Open up your Bible, that is going to be the most helpful
33:55
tool to you to fully develop that relationship with Christ
33:59
and get to know him more. And in turn, you will get to
34:01
know yourself more. And so one thing for me, like
34:04
when I was going through my faith journey and still continue
34:07
to, so I have wrestled with God in moments where I'm not fully
34:10
understanding what to do in a situation.
34:12
Why has this happened to me? You maybe even start to blame
34:15
God. Sometimes people go through that
34:18
and understanding that you have the best tool right in front of
34:21
you. If you have a Bible opening that
34:22
up, getting to know him more because everybody has ups and
34:25
downs in their faith journey. That is completely OK.
34:28
We would never shame you for that.
34:30
That is a completely normal thing to do and ask God to open
34:33
your heart up, give you the heart posture in order to accept
34:36
this information that He has given you through the Word.
34:39
So I was a cradle Catholic and I think that there is kind of this
34:43
like stereotype of a lot of cradle Catholics.
34:44
It's funny when people like convert into Catholicism, I feel
34:47
like some people might have like imposter syndrome, like they're
34:49
not real Catholics. And I always tell them I'm like,
34:52
you guys are a lot of times better Catholics than us cradle
34:54
ones. Like because a lot of us
34:56
Catholics, we grew up going to Catholic school like I did.
34:59
And you know, I went to an all girls Catholic school that was
35:02
ran by nuns and I had to go to Mass like 4 times a week.
35:05
And so obviously, I kind of, you know, in that era, rebelled a
35:09
little bit against it and definitely removed myself where
35:11
I was like I wasn't appreciating.
35:12
That's one of my biggest regrets from my teenage years.
35:14
If we have anyone in high school that's going to a Catholic
35:17
school is embrace that. That is such a beautiful time in
35:19
your life. And I'll be honest, I didn't
35:21
embrace it in that moment. I almost resented by how much I
35:24
had to go to church. You know, I wore my uniform
35:26
every day. There were nuns teaching us.
35:28
And so I was, it was a very strict environment.
35:29
So I did kind of want to rebel from that.
35:31
And it didn't take until I went to UC Berkeley where it was such
35:34
a godless place, to be honest, you guys, where I realize how,
35:37
how important and how lucky I was to have, you know, Jesus in
35:41
my life and to have that upbringing in the Catholic
35:44
Church. I was very thankful for it.
35:45
And then additionally, when I married my husband Drake, he
35:48
grew up, obviously his father is a huge pastor down in Georgia.
35:52
And so he grew up with this non denominational background.
35:54
And that really made me appreciate my faith once again
35:56
in a totally different way. And even though I did grow up
35:59
with this Catholic background, I will say to anyone who is trying
36:02
to rediscover faith that I think you need to find what church
36:05
works best for you. Maybe it is Catholicism or maybe
36:08
it's more of a non denominational approach.
36:10
And I think both are beautiful in their own ways.
36:12
And I celebrate that. And I think, like I said,
36:14
there's, there's benefits to both and whatever feels like it
36:17
sticks to you most and wherever you feel like you find the Lord
36:20
most to do that. So I would start with, you know,
36:22
going back to church. Obviously, I love what you said
36:24
about the Bible and I think implementing biblical values
36:28
into your entire life, like how I feel like I own my Christian
36:32
faith is whenever I'm approaching difficult parts in
36:35
life, I do go back to the Bible and find like, what would Jesus
36:37
want me to do and what what has the Bible set out for us?
36:41
Whether that be marriage, motherhood, your career, any,
36:44
any step in your life. What's so beautiful about the
36:46
Bible is that has eternal truths that can help you through any
36:49
trial and tribulation and decision you make.
36:51
And lastly, I'll say with this, I think having a connection with
36:55
the Lord means getting on your hands and knees at the end of
36:57
your bed and getting in prayer. You should be doing that
37:00
everyday, but especially in difficult times or big moments
37:03
in your life and bringing Jesus and God into your daily life.
37:08
I cannot tell you how much that will improve your connection.
37:11
And like, I have conversations with God and like, I go back to
37:14
things that I've said before and that's been something that's
37:16
really connected me with my faith more and more because like
37:19
I said, just growing up, you take that for granted sometimes.
37:21
So I've really tried to reown my faith in that way and and
37:24
especially now becoming a mom and being married.
37:27
See. I relate to that too, because I
37:28
grew up going to a private Christian School in the state of
37:32
Kentucky. And a lot of I saw God as judge
37:35
through those moments. And I was somebody, you know,
37:37
like Sarah, who has, you know, kind of taken a step back from
37:41
faith in those moments. But then I started to rediscover
37:44
that God is also love. And one of the most beautiful
37:46
things about our friendship, Jamie, is, you know, when we
37:49
were in New York, we actually went on our hands and knees at
37:53
the edge of the bed and we prayed together.
37:55
And that only not only brought us closer to God and gave us
37:57
clarity in those moments, but that brought us closer together
38:00
in our friendship, too. So it is truly beautiful and
38:03
like Jamie noted, everybody's going to find different things
38:06
that they like. I grew up Christian, non
38:08
denominational, but I've also go to Mass because I appreciate the
38:12
tradition. My family is Catholic.
38:14
And so you have to find out what works best for you.
38:16
At the end of the day, there's. So many beautiful ways to
38:19
practice, and the most important thing is to have Jesus in your
38:21
heart and to be reading your Bible and to have that
38:23
connection with him, I think will improve your life in
38:26
dramatic ways. I just love this and I love that
38:29
we were in prayer together. That's been a really important
38:31
part of Cameron and his friendship, I think connection
38:34
over that. All right, you guys.
38:35
So usually we do Hot or Not for this section, but especially
38:38
because we're filming a little bit closer together.
38:40
We wanted to kind of keep things fresh.
38:41
And I think it's always fun to like, throw in something
38:42
different. So instead of Hot or Not, today
38:45
we're doing a quiz on how well we know each other.
38:49
Oh, OK, how this is going to go, Cameron.
38:55
I'm going to throw out some topics and some questions, I
38:58
guess, and we're going to answer for each other and say if we're
39:01
right. OK, ready, let's go.
39:05
OK. First question that we're
39:07
answering for each other to be clear, where were you born and
39:09
what day? OK, you were born in San
39:12
Francisco and you were born January 16th, 1998.
39:17
Correct. OK, Cameron, you were born in
39:20
Canton, OH on July 2nd, Almost a July 4th baby. 2000, Yeah.
39:27
Oh my gosh, she's a 2. Thousands.
39:28
Girl, I hate that I'm 1998 because I'm like at the end I
39:32
feel like when I'm 50 years old I'll be like I was born in the
39:35
20th century. No, I always joke in.
39:38
That at 50? Like what?
39:39
This is such a dark joke, but I always tell my husband I'm like,
39:42
if I get something like dementia where I just don't remember
39:45
things, it's 2000s. It's very easy to remember cuz
39:48
I'm like, what year is it? OK, That's how old I am.
39:50
Yeah. Good point.
39:51
I guess. So for the first half though of
39:53
the year, you're not the same age.
39:54
That's true. Well, it's OK.
39:57
You're almost there. OK, Favorite food?
39:59
I feel like we have so many favorite foods.
40:01
I. Know I feel like your favorite
40:03
food though is is Mexican because you got that authentic
40:06
like Mexican cuisine being in like California they have like
40:08
some of the best Mexican food I. Love some Mexican food, you
40:11
guys. And I like cooking Mexican food
40:13
too, Correct? OK, Cameron, I feel like you're
40:16
a real Italian girl. Like you love a good pasta.
40:18
Like I feel like if you're like ordering something or you're
40:20
making something, it's pasta, which I love too, Cameron.
40:23
And I like, love the same food. I know my funny thing about
40:26
Cameron is that I'm like so particular when I go to a
40:29
restaurant on like exactly what I want and like a lot of times
40:32
Carroll be like I'll get the same.
40:33
Yeah, I. Don't really care.
40:34
I actually let people like especially one of the first
40:37
things that my husband said was like, I love that you let me
40:40
take the lead on our first date and like order our food because
40:42
he loves ordering off the menu and like reading it and seeing
40:45
what dishes complement each other.
40:47
And so I'm just not picky. Like my sister is actually the
40:50
picky one. I was trying sushi and eating
40:53
like snails and everything, like my parents really tried to still
40:57
that in me at a young age to like have a better palate.
40:59
I will say, wait, you've. Had escargot.
41:01
Yes, Escargot. Look at me, the French Canadian.
41:05
I would not have escargot. Really.
41:07
I'm proud of you for that. That's really good.
41:08
Yeah. Or like sea urchin, like if you
41:10
go to like a sushi restaurant, they have sea urchin.
41:12
Like try the try the unique things like yeah, like squid,
41:15
sea urchin, things like that. I'm.
41:17
Not like picky, but I'm probably not as adventurous as you.
41:20
OK, TV show you're obsessed with you're.
41:23
Obsessed with Vampire Diaries? I do.
41:25
Also she's a Catherine. Like let's be honest, look at
41:27
her hair. I love Vampire Diaries.
41:29
I do love that show. I would say that, and I'd really
41:32
love Breaking Bad. Oh.
41:33
OK, I've never watched that show.
41:35
It's so funny before I got married, I feel like a lot of
41:37
girls can like understand this. I like love like my like ROM com
41:42
type TV, teen TV shows like The CW shows.
41:45
And then Drake is like, I'm not watching that.
41:47
So he like you watch. Gossip Girl.
41:49
No, maybe he would. He has sisters.
41:51
He wouldn't admit to that. But he's like, I, Jimmy, I'm not
41:54
watching that. And he would introduce me to,
41:56
like, Breaking Bad, Ozark, I love Better Call Saul.
41:58
And at first, like, I was like, really didn't want to watch
42:00
those shows. And I will say, Drake, credit to
42:03
you, I love them. I'm obsessed with Breaking Bad.
42:05
Really. Yeah.
42:06
Oh, I'll have to try it. OK, Cameron's favorite show this
42:09
low key. I love the show too because
42:12
there's so much lore with this. Like this will come in later
42:14
episodes too. We love, but specifically you
42:17
the most, that Menendez Brothers show that came out last fall.
42:22
Like literally we're obsessed with the soundtrack from that
42:25
show. You just love that show.
42:27
I love the show, I love the soundtrack.
42:29
I wish I was living during that period too.
42:32
And not to like Dox myself. I will say close proximity, part
42:37
time. I live close to that house that
42:40
that happened then Cameron. And I, when we were in LA, we
42:42
did a tour, like went and drove by the house just to like see
42:46
what it looked like. Like other people go on to like
42:48
the Hollywood sign or the Walk of Fame with the stars or, you
42:52
know, like Santa Monica Pier. We were like, let's go to the
42:54
Menendez brothers house. That is Jamie and Kim, Yeah.
42:58
Rush Money talks, money talk. Blame it on the rain that was
43:04
falling. Falling.
43:06
We have this. OK, let's actually tell this
43:08
story. We have this soundtrack on
43:10
Spotify. We created this playlist called
43:12
Nothing But Vibes. And let me tell you, this is
43:15
actually may sound a little creepy, but every single time we
43:18
get an Uber to come film this for you guys, we normally get
43:22
the same Uber driver and one time we like played this
43:25
playlist through his car Bluetooth.
43:27
And so every single time he picks us up now, he starts
43:30
playing the song. He literally.
43:32
Has a playlist saved and like the first time this happened, I
43:34
got in the car and I was about Cameron and I like didn't even
43:36
realize to be honest, which is like bad on me like I should be
43:39
more like cognizant. But I got in the Uber and he all
43:41
of a sudden pulled up our nothings but vibes.
43:44
Cameron. This is Cameron and Jamie Kor.
43:46
We have a shared playlist and starts playing the hey now, Hey
43:50
now that song. Don't don't ask me this thing
43:53
ever so but he's already playing that.
43:56
And I was and I was like, Oh my gosh.
43:57
And he's like, yeah, I drove you before I saved your playlist.
44:00
I really liked it. His name's.
44:01
Muhammad, Yeah. I love him.
44:03
Love. Muhammad, but.
44:04
Anyway, he picks this up all the time and he plays the same
44:06
playlist. I love that from that show.
44:08
Yeah. OK.
44:09
Favorite piece in your closet? Your.
44:12
Favorite piece? I would say the tennis necklace
44:15
that Drake got. You love that you wear those
44:18
Prada platform heels a lot. The SAT or are they sat Yeah,
44:22
the satin Prada heels. And I'm trying to think of what
44:26
else you wear. Maybe your Bottega bag or your
44:29
Jean Gucci bag. I.
44:31
Do love that Jean Gucci bag. I wear that a lot and like or.
44:34
The mew mew flats too. She wears these pink.
44:36
Mew mew flats are so cute. You've actually gotten a lot of
44:39
compliments on those. Not just from women too.
44:41
Like, we were out to eat at the Beverly Hills Hotel one day and
44:44
there were some men asking her if she was a ballerina because
44:46
they're so cute. One thing about me, I cannot
44:48
dance at all. So I'm like, I am far from a
44:50
ballerina, but I love it. My aunt like called me.
44:53
She goes, Jamie, you've worn those Prada heels too much.
44:55
I was like, honestly, valid respect.
45:00
OK, Karen, your favorite thing in your closet, I feel like 1.
45:03
You love your Dior saddlebag. I love that too.
45:06
I'm jealous of you for that. The best thing quickly about
45:08
Cameron and I is that we share all of our clothes with each
45:10
other and we're the same shoe size.
45:11
We're both size 7, believe it or not, with same.
45:14
Jean size, same shoe size, same top size.
45:16
Like, yeah, we actually have everything, Yeah.
45:19
So I almost feel like her closet's mine.
45:21
But you love your deer saddlebag.
45:23
I feel like you also love the van cleave bracelet that Pat got
45:26
for you, which is so sweet. I feel like that's another of
45:28
your. I love this.
45:30
And I do think you love your Chanel ballet flats too, that
45:32
you're wearing that I love as well.
45:34
Actually, this is the most you love those Givenchy boots.
45:37
You bought them in both sizes. She got like the half calf and
45:40
the full calf. That is commitment.
45:41
That means that you love so much.
45:42
I love them so much. I think they're so stylish and I
45:46
love staple pieces like that too.
45:48
And it just I cuz I look, I feel like I look best in black
45:51
because my blonde hair is the biggest accessory.
45:54
So I feel like just having a boot that's a staple piece and
45:57
just like a mini black dress is a Cameron staple.
46:01
Love that. I love that we're getting all
46:03
these right. I know.
46:05
I Yeah. Cuz we just talk non-stop.
46:07
You guys like really? Like if you think we talk a lot
46:09
on this, you should hear us in real Life, OK, Celebrity crush.
46:13
Yours is Jacob the Lordy love him and you love.
46:16
Will you watch football with your husband, Josh Allen?
46:18
Love Josh Allen you guys I love my husband will laugh.
46:21
I look, he was like mad when he got married to Hailee Steinfeld
46:24
drinks like why do you even care?
46:26
One of the reasons, one of the. Funniest things Josh Allen ever
46:29
said. He was in an interview and he
46:31
was like, this guy was saying something about sobriety and he
46:33
was like, oh, I was sober for 12 years and then I turned 13.
46:37
I. Would love that.
46:38
OK, Cameron's going back to the Menendez saying while Menendez,
46:41
whoever plays that, I think his name is like Nicholas Chavez.
46:44
Whoever plays that on, we need to roll that clip, really.
46:47
Looks like my husband, yeah. This edit is amazing.
46:52
Hey. Mafia, after what we've been
46:53
through, I'd like to see you try.
47:06
Cameron Cameron and I think sent that edit to each other like 50
47:09
times low key last year. It still comes up sometimes, but
47:11
that is. My Roman Empire that edit.
47:14
That edit is your Roman Empire OK?
47:16
Favorite fast food? Yours.
47:17
Is in and out. Chick-fil-A.
47:19
Yes. Southern girl.
47:21
Yeah. We're embracing our heritage
47:23
with that. Yeah.
47:26
Oh, this is a good one. OK.
47:28
Something you would change about yourself.
47:29
What do you think I want to change about me?
47:31
I. Feel like you wish you were
47:32
cleaner and more organized you guys.
47:35
I'm a messy girl like you remember when Alex Earl like
47:37
showed her apartment? I low key like you're like.
47:39
Finally I have some representation.
47:42
Represent messy girls like honestly I am low key a messy
47:45
girl I hate to admit that about myself.
47:47
I would change that. I wish I was just Cameron's like
47:49
so clean like Cameron will just like come over to my apartment
47:52
help me clean like I love it. I do clean you guys cuz I have a
47:54
daughter and I'm like married so I have I clean I am that but
47:58
like that does not come naturally to me I'm naturally
48:00
messy. I feel like yours.
48:02
See, This is why we, like, work so well.
48:03
We're all because you're so clean.
48:05
I feel like yours is like you wish you had a bigger social
48:07
battery. Yeah, like Cameron is Cameron
48:10
like, loves, like, hang out with, like her people.
48:12
But like, you're not like a small talker.
48:14
No, I want the deep, substantive, philosophical
48:18
conversations with you. But I get burnt out very, very
48:22
quickly in large settings. Like if I'm in a one-on-one
48:25
setting, I'm fine. And I actually don't.
48:27
There are certain people I don't need social batteries for, like
48:29
Jamie. But if I'm in a bigger crowd and
48:33
I do have to participate in that small talk, I do get burnt out,
48:36
I will say that. Okay, randomest lore.
48:39
Jane, you lived in France. I would say that's your most
48:42
random lore. She lived in France.
48:44
She was AD 1 lacrosse player, too.
48:46
Those are both like random eras in my life.
48:48
I love my Paris era. I studied abroad there and I but
48:52
for reference, like I'm French Canadian and like I grew up
48:54
taking French my entire life. I have a horrific California
48:57
accent. So everybody immediately knew
48:59
when I started trying to speak French there that I was not from
49:01
there. And then also like I am so that
49:03
Emily and Paris were like I came out with my beret like thinking
49:06
like I was like I'm in my homeland and like I was rejected
49:10
across the board. You guys like everyone's like
49:11
this girl from America, but it's OK.
49:14
You're random. A slur.
49:16
Do not kill me. Why you're going to kill me?
49:19
Say it we can I. Feel like you're like dating
49:22
roster. I am not going to say who, but
49:25
Cameron once dated like a really popular country music artist
49:29
that you guys would all know. And I'm I'm just going to stop
49:32
there. OK.
49:34
And then also, I feel like another random lore about you
49:36
that I like, loved was like right before you got married,
49:39
like the Bachelor, you know, like the Bachelor franchise
49:42
tried to get Cameron so hardcore on to their show.
49:44
Yeah, they were like triple texting me and they were like,
49:47
are you still open to having an interview and everything that?
49:50
Would have been good. That would have been good.
49:51
You would have gotten the villain at it though.
49:52
I. Really would have I I 100% agree
49:55
with that because I'm kind of like that Maria girl in a sense
49:58
where I'm just not for everyone and that's OK.
50:00
Yeah. I love that about you though.
50:02
OK last one, biggest pet peeve. What is so?
50:06
Hard. You have a couple, I would say 1
50:10
I. Do have a lot of pet peeves
50:12
like. Being mindful, tending to your
50:13
love language, I would say and like situationally where in that
50:18
regard to like little pet peeves like cracking your knuckles.
50:22
I feel like that like annoys you or your neck or like when men
50:26
like when they're getting ready in the morning, they're like
50:28
Hucka loogie. Sorry, my husband does this.
50:30
I love you Pat, but you do this too while they're brushing their
50:33
teeth. Why do they do that it?
50:34
Literally is the most disgusting sound ever.
50:36
Like I literally hate that and I hate when anyone like cracks
50:40
their bones or their neck. I'm like that is just not
50:43
needed. Like I don't know why people do
50:45
that. And by the way, I think there's
50:46
like scientific evidence that that is not good for you.
50:48
Yeah. It's it's not actually just like
50:50
'cause inflammation or something.
50:52
OK, your biggest pet peeve is, and I love this about you,
50:56
actually, Cameron, you are a loyal girl till you die.
50:59
And you hate like a person who's like friends to everyone.
51:02
Like you don't. That's what a friendship you
51:04
want. You want a girl that's like ride
51:05
or die for you. You'd rather have four quarters
51:07
and 100 pennies. So you hate like that's your
51:09
biggest pet peeve, like someone who's trying to please everyone.
51:12
And it's someone who's, like always Switzerland, which, by
51:15
the way, I agree with you. Yeah, A.
51:16
Friend of all is a friend to none.
51:18
Yeah, I forgot. Well, you guys just got to know
51:20
us a little bit better there. That's why I thought it was fun.
51:22
We'll go back to Hard or Not next time, but I thought it was
51:25
a fun game. OK, You guys headed into our
51:28
last segment of the day, which is propaganda that we're not
51:31
falling for. I think my propaganda I'm not
51:37
falling for is when somebody clutches their pearls like they
51:40
get like these are things that some adults should be able to
51:44
handle. I hate the self-righteous act of
51:46
like they can't take. I want honest in real
51:49
conversation and if I slip out a curse word or say something a
51:53
little taboo, maybe it's in a personal setting.
51:55
I would never do this like out in public.
51:58
I want that honest and real conversation with you to get to
52:00
know you better have that connection.
52:01
And if you're clutching your pearls, this is a huge thing in
52:04
the South. I'm like, OK, I can't relate to
52:07
you. I can't be honest and deep with
52:08
you at all. I would agree with that.
52:11
Like someone who I'm not a big cusser, as you can see, but like
52:14
someone who can't like is like like if you say, Oh my God,
52:18
it's. Like signaling moral
52:20
superiority? Yeah.
52:22
I'm like OK, get with it like the.
52:24
Holier than the owl complex and I.
52:25
Know we talk a lot about like Alex Cooper and how she's so
52:28
vulgar and disgusting on her show.
52:29
So like yes, like I'm not saying to do that, but I also can't
52:33
stand like Puritan type people. Like sometimes you just want to
52:36
talk SH IT with people and we don't want to get like a
52:39
reaction. Spare me the dramatics please.
52:43
Please. OK.
52:44
Mine that I'm not falling for is pajamas on planes clock.
52:49
It let me. Let me paint a distinction here.
52:52
If you have a really cute Aviator Nation set, that is
52:56
different than pajamas. I'm talking about the grown men
52:59
who get onto planes without their hair brushed and they're
53:02
literally wearing like Lilo and Stitch pajamas.
53:05
Like I'm like, how has society fallen like this?
53:08
Like it's just so gross. Like if you're going out in
53:11
public, women wear a little bit of makeup, put yourself
53:14
together, nice even wear some yoga pants and a cute set or
53:17
something. Just anything other than pajama
53:20
pants and men brush your hair look put together.
53:24
I love that my husband personally travels always
53:26
wearing a suit on his plane because he travels a lot for
53:28
work and stuff. I think that's just a much
53:30
better look. I'm so sick of like just our
53:32
standards are in the toilet. I was traveling like a week ago
53:35
and I was just looking around and I'm like, I feel like this
53:38
speaks a lot to our country at the moment that everyone's in
53:41
sweatpants. Not like a cute sweat like I'm
53:42
talking like sweatpants shirt, no makeup on.
53:46
Like their acne is out. Like I'm just like, let's do
53:50
better people like flying used to be a luxury where they used
53:53
to serve like these amazing things and like it was, like I
53:57
said, a luxury experience. And now it's a bunch of people
54:00
crammed into a plane wearing pajamas, stinking and opening up
54:04
their gross as food that smells horrific for the rest of the
54:08
plane. It's really just not a lovely
54:10
experience. I'm not following that for that
54:11
propaganda. I'm going to get ready and look
54:13
nice for a plane. Well, and.
54:14
There's a way to be comfy and also be stylish too, and I think
54:18
people have forgotten that as well.
54:19
You don't need to be in your cookie monster, you know,
54:23
pajamas or your skin set what you could like easily put
54:27
yourself together in something reasonably comfy as well.
54:30
I. Completely agree.
54:31
It's not. We're not asking you to like
54:33
jump through hoops here, just 5 minutes even just to improve
54:38
your appearance before you go out in public and represent our
54:40
country better people. OK?
54:42
What are you falling for, Cam? I propaganda that I am falling
54:46
for is making your bet. I had a coach instill this in me
54:50
as a young girl. It has changed the game for me.
54:52
I always felt like I've been more productive and I want to
54:55
read you girls a statistic too because he said this to me at
54:58
practice. It was a researcher, Randall
55:00
Bell. He said people who make their
55:02
bed each morning are 206% more more likely to become
55:07
millionaires because it's showing that you have
55:08
self-discipline, that you're organized, you're on top of
55:11
things and it's making you more productive.
55:13
You're starting your day off strong.
55:15
So ladies, make your bed and. Even like being a stay at home
55:18
mom, sometimes you are in sweatpants I will say, and like
55:21
you're just being a mom and doing those little things and
55:23
cleaning up makes you feel a lot more productive throughout the
55:26
day. So I'm in full agreement that,
55:29
OK, the propaganda that I am falling for is quality over
55:33
quantity. And look, I am very proud to be
55:36
an American. I'm like one of the most proud
55:38
Americans in the world. But I will say I think Americans
55:40
kind of get this wrong. I feel like Americans a lot of
55:43
times are quantity over quality. What I mean by that is like, you
55:47
know, Cameron and I were talking about like our designer stuff.
55:50
Neither of us are millionaires here, but I rather invest in one
55:54
piece that I love then buy like 50 like Sheen outfits that are
55:58
just like bad quality and cheap and like you wear one time.
56:03
I think like the way that Europeans go about like their
56:06
wardrobe where they invest in these really nice, like and they
56:08
have like a capsule wardrobe and it's like really great pieces.
56:11
It's such a better way to go about your life.
56:14
And it's even like with food, I rather eat like, you know, not
56:17
have like 50 million stacks from Costco and stuff and just have
56:19
like, like actually better cleaner ingredients that cost
56:22
more and put more money into that.
56:24
And so that is my thing. I'm going to call of Americans.
56:27
We are just over consumers. And as much as I love capitalism
56:30
in the free market, I do think like being more intentional with
56:33
spending and instead investing in those quality pieces that you
56:36
can keep for the rest of your life, even furniture in your
56:39
house. I feel like Americans a lot of
56:41
times do buy, like a lot of cheap to be honest.
56:44
Yeah, like the IKEA furniture and stuff like that.
56:46
Now I understand if you need like shelves in your closet,
56:48
that's a little different. But honestly, going back to
56:51
this, I used to stay in long term Airbnbs because I wanted to
56:55
save up and and invest in really nice furniture pieces.
56:59
And I will say I'm very, very blessed now to have like
57:02
restoration hardware and Pottery Barn, but I had to save up for
57:06
that luxury. But I was able to have those
57:08
short term sacrifices for long term gains where now I can
57:12
actually like have that furniture forever and take care
57:15
of those pieces. But I agree, like the team, you
57:18
the sheet, like I'm not saying that you can't shop on those
57:21
sites, but I would much rather wait to get an outfit and save
57:25
up for a more quality piece that I know I will wear again and
57:28
again over time than just getting that instant
57:31
gratification and spending your money on something that's
57:34
cheaper. But you're going to have to
57:35
replace it. And you're probably going to end
57:37
up spending just as much trying to replace that product over
57:40
time. And.
57:41
This isn't like some out of touch, like rich opinion.
57:44
I will say the Americans have a lot more disposable income than
57:47
Europeans do. But like I said, instead of
57:50
spending all your money on a million other things, save up
57:53
for one and really wear that and invest in that and you can keep
57:56
it forever. And it's much higher quality.
57:58
It looks better. And that's not to say, like,
58:00
there's definitely some things that I do a dupe with.
58:02
Like, for example, I have my nice Manolo shoes on that are
58:06
expensive, but I'm wearing like a Mango sweater that I don't
58:08
think is very expensive, like maybe like $40, though Mango
58:12
has. Yeah.
58:12
But Mango does have high quality.
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So I think mixing and matching as well.
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But in general, I just, I think like the overconsumption is like
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bad for society and I think, you know, investing in quality
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pieces will last you a lifetime and is so worth it and.
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That applies for everything. I want to live my life with good
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friends, wearing a good outfit, with good wine.
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These are things that I cherish and saving up for that.
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Making sure that you're investing your time and the
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right people, sitting at the right tables with the cutest
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outfit that you can possibly have.
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It's worth the wait in my opinion, Karen.
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We should put that on your grave.
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I want to spend my life with good clothes, good or good
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people, good clothes and good wine.
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Yeah, honestly, let's wrap it up there.
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I love that quote. Thank you Sincerely sisters,
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Wednesday. Bye.
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My loves. We'll see you every Wednesday.