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Jags Drive Time: Monday, November 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Jeffuars did you don't Jack what jag Warris did? Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that John says it actually
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to Jack's Drive Time, brought to you by Jet Home
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  Speaker 1: Loans on a Monday, following the jaguars fifth consecutive loss.
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  Speaker 1: Um just kind of put that in perspective. There are
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  Speaker 1: two other teams that are enduring five game losing streets
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  Speaker 1: right now. Do you know who they are? Giants and
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  Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yes, the Giants and the Raiders. And that
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  Speaker 1: is the point where the Jaguars are at three and
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  Speaker 1: six in this season. They're both one and something. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, they're both one if we're looking for the
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  Speaker 1: right perspective, one at eight and one and seven. But conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if we're looking for the correct
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  Speaker 1: place to put this Jaguars right now, yeah, absolutely, just
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  Speaker 1: above two teams at the very bottom of the league.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you know, when you look at it from
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  Speaker 1: that perspective, you're talking about two teams that had no
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  Speaker 1: significant aspirations. I mean, I guess maybe the Giants thought
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  Speaker 1: that they could be better than they were last year,
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  Speaker 1: which yeah, you know, which was I think there were
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  Speaker 1: three and thirteen last year. Um, But when you when
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  Speaker 1: you look at it at its entirety, yesterday was kind
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  Speaker 1: of It's kind of the season is kind of like
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  Speaker 1: the fumble, right, the fumble the end of the game,
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  Speaker 1: where there's a moment where you think, and I can
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  Speaker 1: remember as they were deliberating right, the official had his
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  Speaker 1: eyes on the screen and I remember thinking, if they
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  Speaker 1: come back and give this ball to the Colts. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's a microcosm of the Jaguar season, which is they
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  Speaker 1: gave you a look that made you think that here
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  Speaker 1: they go, desperate team making plays at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the game, and then they let it get away. But
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  Speaker 1: it was also fitting in other ways in the sense
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  Speaker 1: absolutely anyway you're talking about. And also the receiver, I
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  Speaker 1: mean dropping balls all year and fumbling in key situations,
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  Speaker 1: which second game in a row, you can make the
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  Speaker 1: argument that costs in the game, but we got killing.
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  Speaker 1: Cole was not a significant factor in this game, because
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  Speaker 1: he was a hugely significant factor in the loss in Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 1: which is one reason I'm sure we're star agreements on
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  Speaker 1: the field, because they're looking for somebody who who wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: hold the ball. Uh, they're in a situation where they
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  Speaker 1: have a chance to come back and take the lead.
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  Speaker 1: What they haven't done that all year and they didn't
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  Speaker 1: do to. I mean, you know, so it again personified
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  Speaker 1: what's been going on all year. You had the chance
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  Speaker 1: to take your first lead to the season, and of
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  Speaker 1: course you don't. So it's uh, turnovers, giveaway, takeaway has
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  Speaker 1: also played the team all year. So if that's the
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  Speaker 1: dying moment, if that's the moment where you you know
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  Speaker 1: why the candle goes out, what better way than with
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  Speaker 1: a fumble by a wide receiver and a failed comeback,
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  Speaker 1: Because that's what it's been alight. So we have our
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  Speaker 1: Exfinity this morning. The Jaguars Drive Time poll on Twitter
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  Speaker 1: brought to us on Mondays by Exfinity, who asked, who's
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  Speaker 1: your player the game? Blake Bortles um completions, two touchdowns
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  Speaker 1: and a hundred eleven points seven pastur rating. Leonards scored
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown both ways. Uh, Dante Moncreef had the eighty
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  Speaker 1: yard touchdown and maybe you find someone else's more deserving
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  Speaker 1: of the honor. You can vote on Twitter for the
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  Speaker 1: Excenity Player of the game, and of course it will
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  Speaker 1: be going all day final results on Happy Hour this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get things started with big things, all right,
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  Speaker 1: let's do this defense question mark is big thing one,
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  Speaker 1: giving up four first half touchdowns over three hundred yards
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  Speaker 1: allowed secondary, big play after big play. Malik Jackson called
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  Speaker 1: the first half dumbfounding for the defense, and coach Maron said,
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  Speaker 1: secondary has to get cleaned up, and I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: work on it. We do it during a week, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously when people make mistakes, especially at that part, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's like like missing a block. You know, someone goes
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  Speaker 1: for the wrong guy. You know you're gonna see someone
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  Speaker 1: coming straight through the quarterback. You know, the same situation.
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  Speaker 1: When you miss something in the back end, it's obviously
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  Speaker 1: something that's disappointing. It's obviously something now we need to correct.
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  Speaker 1: In the first half, John and I'm obviously on the sidelines,
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  Speaker 1: so I spent a lot of time watching the defensive
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  Speaker 1: backs and listening to the conversations, and Perry Fuel had
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  Speaker 1: Keelvin Smith over there almost the entire first half because
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  Speaker 1: they were tight ends running wide open. I know t
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  Speaker 1: Y Hilton had that one big play, but Eric Ebron
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  Speaker 1: and Jack Doyle and mo Alei Cox. I mean, those
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  Speaker 1: three tight ends seemed unconquerable. No one had been in
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  Speaker 1: six yards because the end zone kept stopping them otherwise.
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  Speaker 1: But the level of angst, that's probably the only way
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  Speaker 1: I can describe. But the level of angst in the
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  Speaker 1: back end of that defense yesterday was epic. Now they
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  Speaker 1: obviously figured something out. Although I asked Todd Wash last
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  Speaker 1: night as I got back on the place that did
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  Speaker 1: you do anything different schematically? Did you change matchups? Did
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  Speaker 1: you change anything? And he said, no, guys executed the
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  Speaker 1: scheme better. Yeah, when you when you watched it. And
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  Speaker 1: with apologies to Tony Boselli who here on the radio
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  Speaker 1: this morning talking about a little of this um, they
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  Speaker 1: in the first half were not executing assignments. Uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's always hard when they're in zone. On the play
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  Speaker 1: we just saw, for example, I was under the impression
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  Speaker 1: that it was Kelvin Smith R. Burry Church from listening
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  Speaker 1: to Tony Jalen Ramsey was in the wrong defense. Happened
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  Speaker 1: again on in another scheme on a play later in
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  Speaker 1: the second quarter. When you don't play the defense that's
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  Speaker 1: called and you don't play your assignments. It can look very,
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  Speaker 1: very bad when you're playing a quarterback like Andrew Luck
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  Speaker 1: and watching in the second half, it appeared that those
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  Speaker 1: things weren't happening. It was more, it appeared, anyway from
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  Speaker 1: watching it once last night once this morning, that the
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  Speaker 1: times they were beating the second half, we're far more
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  Speaker 1: times where the Colts wide receivers were beating them as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to the second quarter. Because in the second half
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  Speaker 1: he got beat a lot in the second half to
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  Speaker 1: and on some key plays they had two drops. There
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  Speaker 1: was a whole reason, not um. But when they got
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  Speaker 1: beat in the second half, it was far more getting
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  Speaker 1: beat by a player making a play against them rather
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  Speaker 1: than a mental air. I'm not sure how you coach
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  Speaker 1: mental airs. Yeah, when we were listening to the post
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  Speaker 1: game um locker room speeches that said that it was
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  Speaker 1: just a conversation that fixed all that, And at first
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  Speaker 1: that was hard to believe. But then when you hear
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  Speaker 1: someone like Todd Wash saying they changed nothing, maybe it
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  Speaker 1: was just I mean, clearly, Jalen Ramsey, he had his
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  Speaker 1: worst game obviously of the season, probably had his worst
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  Speaker 1: game maybe of his career, because he didn't play poorly
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  Speaker 1: as a rookie yesterday he played down flat outright poor football.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, and he wasn't alone, no, a lot of
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  Speaker 1: friends with but it was pretty strike game. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: was pretty striking. And his body language on the sidelines
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  Speaker 1: said he knew it. Yeah, and uh, I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: how to explain that because he's certainly physically capable of
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  Speaker 1: not playing anyway. So a tough game mentally, which happens. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear from Klais Campbell, who talked about the difference
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  Speaker 1: between the first half and the second half defensively, when
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  Speaker 1: we drug ourself in the too big of a whole
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  Speaker 1: and uh and then we play, you know, the way
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  Speaker 1: we're supposed to play. And I said half as Jaguarson,
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  Speaker 1: I know, but first we had mistakes, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: we mean there was bust of coverages. There was you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, uh miss assignments, you know, and so
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  Speaker 1: uh most we most we you know, talked about it,
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  Speaker 1: fixed it. You know, we start playing a ball now.
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  Speaker 1: I have to give credit to the culture offensive line.
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  Speaker 1: They're good, they are very good. And Quentin Nelson and
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  Speaker 1: you'll see him all over Twitter today as people break
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  Speaker 1: down plays Quentn Nelson's a tremendous guard, the rookie, the
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  Speaker 1: what six pick of the first round this last year.
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  Speaker 1: Um their offensive line, they are they are a really
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  Speaker 1: good much better than last season, and they look like
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  Speaker 1: they could quickly become one of the best in the league.
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  Speaker 1: And you can see why they're not giving up sex.
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  Speaker 1: They they also they're very good and they also scheme
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  Speaker 1: to it, meaning Andrew lux getting the ball out fast.
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  Speaker 1: Uh Now, in the first half yesterday was easy to
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  Speaker 1: get it out fast because when you see a guy
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  Speaker 1: running ten yards open, you go ahead and thrown the
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  Speaker 1: ball quick. That's how you get the ball out fast.
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  Speaker 1: But they also have clearly decided our priorities are going
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  Speaker 1: to be number one, not get Andrew like hit. Number
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  Speaker 1: two not get Andrew like hit, and number three not
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  Speaker 1: get Andrew like hit. And that's a smart party. We
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  Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback for the long term of their franchise.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they ought to be doing, and they are
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  Speaker 1: committing a long term financially and otherwise to him. So
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  Speaker 1: they needed to do that. Was that not, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: the method that the Peyton Manning Colts did too. They
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  Speaker 1: la him to get rid of the ball quickly because
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  Speaker 1: they knew he was going to have a long career. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the first thing they did when they got there in
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  Speaker 1: was well, he's not gonna get hit if the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line has to hold to keep him from getting hit
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  Speaker 1: in situation, do it. If you think you're gonna get
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  Speaker 1: hit in certain situations, go down. You know the whole
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  Speaker 1: uh your self sack that you saw him at the
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  Speaker 1: end of his career, um and you see Brady do
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  Speaker 1: it sometimes. You see the great quarterbacks do it sometimes
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  Speaker 1: because they know better for me to take an eight
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  Speaker 1: yard sack here where I know it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a sack anyway, then to expose myself to further injury,
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  Speaker 1: because further injury might mean losing four games in row
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  Speaker 1: rather than one. Going quickly back to the defensives, wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make a point that it reminded me so much
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  Speaker 1: the first half of this game, the Dallas game as
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  Speaker 1: a whole. When you looked at the end after a touchdown,
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  Speaker 1: guys are going confusion, just complete miscommunication, and especially the
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  Speaker 1: touchdown patch to mo Ali Cox that drive thirty yards
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  Speaker 1: of penalties with Malik and Miles completely unavoidable, completely change
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  Speaker 1: the game avoidable. You mean yeah, right right, malik Um
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  Speaker 1: In particular, Yeah, that drive looked like it was the
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  Speaker 1: start of a defense that was going to spend the
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  Speaker 1: rest of the game flailing around and playing, not quitting,
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  Speaker 1: but playing selfishly and being out of position. And when
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  Speaker 1: I say selfishly, I mean going after I don't mean
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  Speaker 1: that was a selfish play, right, Well, what I meant
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  Speaker 1: by selfishly is trying necessarily that. Oh, that was selfish,
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  Speaker 1: selfish in the sense of going after the big play
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  Speaker 1: when instead of going after your assignment, players in the
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  Speaker 1: NFL usually don't quit. They usually start playing for the
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  Speaker 1: big play and getting out of scheme. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: might be seeing that on that drive, But what was
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  Speaker 1: impressive is you didn't see it in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: It could have snowballed that way and it didn't. Um,
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  Speaker 1: if you're grasping at some thing, I don't say hope
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  Speaker 1: because you're not gonna make the playoffs, but if if
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  Speaker 1: you're looking for a good sign it happened defensively, that
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen, and sometimes it does. Right, fix it. Going
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  Speaker 1: back to what coach said all week is do your job,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what, stick to it. Defense also got a
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  Speaker 1: lift from the offense. Yesterday, let's roll into big thing too.
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  Speaker 1: Yes offense came to play and they came to win
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  Speaker 1: four fifteen yards first down Sportals had his best game
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  Speaker 1: since September, and we saw the return of Leonard for
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  Speaker 1: Nette and we saw what his absence really meant. I say,
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  Speaker 1: the self motivation, you know what I mean, just knowing
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  Speaker 1: that we have the ability to uh just square any
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  Speaker 1: more at any point, you know, uh, just building confidence
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  Speaker 1: out with the offense. So, like I said, we have
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  Speaker 1: seven more games. So how much of an impact did
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  Speaker 1: Leonard for Nett have yesterday? In terms of it? They
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  Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns in the first half, They had the
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  Speaker 1: long eight minute and second drive in the in the
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  Speaker 1: start of the third quarter, which by the way, really
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  Speaker 1: helped the defense get back on track. Um and they
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  Speaker 1: were answering they were putting in. They they answered twenty
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  Speaker 1: nine to halftime deficit, and they came out left some
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  Speaker 1: points on there. How much was Fournett a part of that?
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  Speaker 1: Since we've been talking about him all season, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to say because the one I got some
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  Speaker 1: emails last night saying this is this is typical of
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars depending on too much. On four net he
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  Speaker 1: only average two point two yards to carry, And I
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  Speaker 1: get that, but I also get that, didn't It just
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  Speaker 1: feel like they knew what they wanted to do more
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  Speaker 1: than they usually do. And that's saying they couldn't have
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  Speaker 1: mixed things up, uh in terms of running into the line,
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  Speaker 1: you know, uh with Fornet on some series. But there's
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  Speaker 1: something about the way they called plays, the way they
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  Speaker 1: know what they want to do, and they know when
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  Speaker 1: he's in the game, and they know what they want
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  Speaker 1: to do as secondary calls as how the defense is
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  Speaker 1: going to play them. With for Net in the game,
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  Speaker 1: it helps them to call plays off of that. So
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  Speaker 1: he a hundred nine total yards. I believe it's the
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  Speaker 1: eight time in sixteen games he's been over a hundred
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  Speaker 1: total yards. You can't discount that play. We're seeing right there.
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  Speaker 1: The screen pass, the screen game, it seems to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I haven't done the research on it. First four
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  Speaker 1: games of this season, it seemed like the screen game
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  Speaker 1: was very effective in a real threat. I don't remember
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  Speaker 1: a screen pass working in October. It probably did, but
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  Speaker 1: it just feels like it didn't. It's back with him.
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  Speaker 1: He's so good at it. I don't think you can
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  Speaker 1: discount his presence on runs like this. It's hard to
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  Speaker 1: score touchdowns in the red zone. Rushing touchdowns are a
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  Speaker 1: very important stat Uh. It seemed like they couldn't do
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  Speaker 1: that without him, and it feels like they're capable of
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  Speaker 1: doing that with an answer difference. Now. The offensive line
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  Speaker 1: is probably gonna go forward the rest of the season
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  Speaker 1: without Brandon Linder. We have no update on that. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get something from Doug Morone later this afternoon, but just
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  Speaker 1: basing it on what we saw, uh, it would look
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  Speaker 1: like Tyler Shatley is gonna be the starter there. The
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  Speaker 1: Jagger's offensive line did not look like the Colts offensive
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  Speaker 1: line yesterday, and I get that. A lot of that
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  Speaker 1: is is the team stacked the box, which is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to open up other things. But that offensive line struggled
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  Speaker 1: against the Colts defensive front that I I just didn't
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  Speaker 1: think was all that talent it. This could be an
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  Speaker 1: area of focus, yea. I what scares you a little
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  Speaker 1: bit is they've already spent money on it a lot um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think Andrew Norwell is playing as badly as
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  Speaker 1: a lot of observers do. I think he's fine. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. I think he paid for great.
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  Speaker 1: But you're always gonna overpay in free agency. Uh. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure Linder is the highest paid center in
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  Speaker 1: the league even when he's healthy. I mean, I he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play to that level. We're not sure he plays
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  Speaker 1: that level. Uh. And he's not anymore. But you you
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  Speaker 1: have my point. Um, it feels like right now it
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  Speaker 1: feels like overhaul is needed. That's probably because we're not
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  Speaker 1: seeing Cama Robinson in there. You hope that he comes
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  Speaker 1: back next year and is closer to the guy that
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  Speaker 1: you thought he was developing into as a rookie. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but if your part, that was probably gonna be back,
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  Speaker 1: and a j Can is probably gonna be back, So
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  Speaker 1: there are spots there where you feel like you can improve.
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  Speaker 1: Tight end doesn't help this situation either, Um. Austin Spari
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  Speaker 1: and Jenkins being out hurts in many ways that we
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  Speaker 1: discussed her in training camp. Brian, Yes, he's a he's
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  Speaker 1: a good run blocker. The absence of him in the
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  Speaker 1: passing game also hurts the running game because there's not
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  Speaker 1: that thread of balance. You know, here is where in
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  Speaker 1: hindsight is always twenty. Here's where you'd like to have
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  Speaker 1: more cities Lewis because you don't have another effective blocking
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  Speaker 1: tight end on your roster even remotely. No, that's not
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  Speaker 1: James O'Shaughnessy's game. David Grinage is a big body, but
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  Speaker 1: not a dominant blocker. Uh for you know, three and
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  Speaker 1: a half four million bucks and I get at the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars are in that window with their cap, but having
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  Speaker 1: him on the roster would make a huge difference. And right,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not having Austin Spuring, Jenkins or Marcedes Lewis
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  Speaker 1: really limits the way that they can play well. And
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  Speaker 1: for that helped him. And again he gave them that
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  Speaker 1: identity and they knew what they wanted to do, and
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  Speaker 1: there's no question they were better offense with him. But
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  Speaker 1: it feels like the point of this conversation right now
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  Speaker 1: is even with him, they're not the dominating running team
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  Speaker 1: you expected. Now. Some of that, to be fair, is
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  Speaker 1: first game back. There is a a repetition and a
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  Speaker 1: a continuity thing that comes with a running back. Probably
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  Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be as good first game back as it
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  Speaker 1: will be as you go forward. Did you think that
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  Speaker 1: he ran tentatively because there were not every run, but
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  Speaker 1: there were a couple of runs where it looked like
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  Speaker 1: there was a downhill lane for him and he stutter stepped,
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  Speaker 1: didn't take the lane, didn't take it for whatever reason. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and part of that again his time. He's been out
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  Speaker 1: for a long time, my impression. And he he talked
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  Speaker 1: to the media yesterday and that was great. He's never
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  Speaker 1: going to be very forthcoming with me. It's just not
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  Speaker 1: his way. I'm not saying that as a knock on Leonard.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not going to be his way, and that's okay. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he likes to give away how he's
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  Speaker 1: really feeling. My guess is throughout this six or seven
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: game period where he's been dealing with the hamstring, there's
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: been a lot of advice coming his way of how
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: to run when you get back. It looked to me
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: like he was trying to run intelligently, which is perhaps
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: not completely open up that hamstring. Don't go into fifth
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: or six gear if you don't have to. It's not
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: always easy to do that, and and decide exactly when
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: you want to open it up, exactly when you don't. Um.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: He touched the twenty nine times. I thought he gave
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: from the press box anyway, great effort from the sidelines
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: as well. My guess is if there were plays like that,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and I saw a couple of like that too, maybe
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: trying to run intelligently and not absolutely blow it out
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: his first game back, which I kind of get. We
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: saw play on the sideline that defines what you're talking
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: about where he went out of bounds in the Jaguar sideline,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: which you know, it's it's which he didn't do as
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: a rookie. He put his shoulder down and drove into him.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: That is a veteran rove to get out of bounds
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: and preserve the hit. And it is that preserving the hamstring,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: is that preserving the body? Uh, Preserving the body is
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: an issue for the kid because he's going to run
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like that, you want to preserve it a little bit. Um.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I thought, you know, for as much skepticism as he's
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: faced for the the first eight weeks, it was the
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: kind of effort you needed from him. Yesterday. I thought
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: it was fine. Yeah, And I don't think we're ever
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: going to truly know how that hamstring feels, because, like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you said, the way he addressed the media, it was fine,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: hamstring Stine, Everything's fine. Yeah, he's not. I mean, some
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: guys don't mind talking about injuries. Uh. And I don't
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: get the idea that he's ever going to be that
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: forthcoming on that time, A short sentence guy. He's going
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to tell you what he needs to to answer the question.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: And that because why would he be from his perspective
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: to give away, well, my hamstrings bothered me, that helps
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: the other team. Why should he do that. I think
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: it'd be interesting to watch him on the practice field
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: this week and see if he goes full or if
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: he's limited. That'll be a telling sign as to, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: where they feel it's at. Although twenty nine touches yesterday,
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: he didn't know in the locker room after the game
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: when he was was presented with that you touched the
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: ball times, he was wasn't that many, you know? So
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I don't he wasn't focusing necessarily on how much he
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: was touching the ball. But I do agree he was
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: thinking as opposed to running instinctively yesterday, and so I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: think he wanted to get through the game healthy. To
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: his credit though on on the screen pass that we
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: just showed that took it down to the four yard line.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Um I didn't see any hesitation. Now, so there are
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: moments and for a young player, it's still learning how
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: to play that way. Um Again, I didn't get any
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: impression that he was trying to uh avoid anything at
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the cost of the team. I thought he was trying
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: to figure out in certain situations how to play smart.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Again I didn't. I didn't see him as being completely indecisive,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: because there were moments where he put his shoulders down
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and drove the pile forward. It was just here and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: there he appeared to run less decisively than the Leonard
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: for Nette that we had seen in his rookie season.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: All right, big thing three, alright, big thing three is
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: what is next? Seven games left? Everyone after the loss thought,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: what happens if this team shuts out long creep, shut
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: that down altogether. Check out. You don't know the game, period,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: So if you want to check out, check out, I mean,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: do you want to go to watch the buzz and
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: do what we were doing? His account coming to play
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: and that's what we're gonna do. Well, that's what we're
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: at right now. Which seven games left to play? The
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: questions in the locker room become How do you keep
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the locker room engaged? How do you keep everyone together? Um?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: To his credit, he anticipated the question, and he's not
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a big talker either, but his point was real simple,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: and that is is that if you don't come to
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: play and help your team and play for your teammates,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: then you don't deserve to be here. So unfortunately, what's
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: next is more of the same. We're gonna be watching
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: their effort, watching the way they play the game, um,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: as much as we're watching the result of the play. Yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell a lot about the character of
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: this locker room and each single guy. That's what Bordle
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Suddens press conference that we both heard. Yeah. Unfortunately, when
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you hear the head coach after a game in November
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: talking about pride and professionalism, um, that's what he has
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to say, I have no problem with saying it, but
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you know, but you know, yeah, and that's Uh. When
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I heard that, I got kind of sad. I mean,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I knew I was going to hear it. It didn't
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: really I wanted to hear it and didn't at the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: same time. But that's where we're at six, all right,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: that'll do it for the a block. Don't you think
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I would say so? I would say so? So what
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you would do? Now? Break? We need a break. We'll
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: take a break. When we come back. Some of the
• 22:08
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• 22:11
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  Speaker 1: have to believe. I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen,
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• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm telling you right now, when
• 24:42
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• 24:44
  Speaker 1: they're gonna want to play us. Nobody's looking forward to
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: playing us, you know. Uh so uh, desperation, you know, uh,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: whatever may be. You know, we luck you and we
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  Speaker 1: stay focused. Were playing the way we played in that
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: second half, we could beat anybody in sleep. A year ago,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars came out of the Bible that and they
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: got hot, uh and they beat the the Bengals and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the Chargers here um and the rest of the division
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: was not Tennessee a little bit. Uh. This year, Houston
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: surging with six straight wins, Titans have gotten their footing
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: after three straight losses in one back to back weeks.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Including an impressive win yesterday over the the Patriots. And
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: now you've got Indianapolis. It's one four in a row,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and so you've got teams on winning streaks and the
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Jaguars on a losing streak. Oh and three in the
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: division with three more games, two on the road. Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: you guys remember in September when the Patriots was a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: good day. That was awesome, so long ago. Alright, let's
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: take a look at the highlights and comment on some
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: specifics from the game yesterday. Yes, we have lots of highlights.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: Let's start with an example of what was going wrong
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars defense the first half of the game.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: They all started the very first drive of the game
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: for the Jaguars start trying to stop the run on
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: second to twelve, person opens in there, touchstad police and
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: there you go. I mean that was the first big
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: break in the jag secondary big play there yards Absolutely
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: that was like whoa what did you see right there?
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, very intelvin or you know what's going on?
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Vociferous in their questioning of each other, and the first
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: half was just a disaster for the Jaguars secondary. Miscommunication
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: on all fronts. Eric Eburn three touchdowns. Well, you don't
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: run that wide open unless there's a major breakdown and coverage.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: And it was such a major breakdown that you know
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the person responsible wasn't even in the screen that was
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So here's the interesting point is is it okay you
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: get those you have those breaks, But the problem is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: generally when you get it, you go back to the sidelines,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: you look at what happened, say all right, we'll fix that.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: But on the very next drive, you know there's guys
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: running open the whole half they were they didn't fix
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the problem, right, right, Yeah, And it's it's a situation
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: where as soon as you say that the first thing,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: people say it, well it's coaching. Well no, well but
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: that's that's the immediately and they ran the same scheme
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: in the second half. Right at some point you say
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: go do this, right and if you don't do this,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: that's on the player. Yeah, all right, let's take your
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: sponse from the Jaguars on fronts Moncrief and man and
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: man coverage, the longest touchdown of his career to sting
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: for coming off the field on a third and three.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Bortles won't protected taking a shot off the scene. He's
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: got my grief bing a tackle, My grief, it's a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: fun race and he will store there's a big play
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: we haven't seen in the first half. Um. You know,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: if you go back and watch the throw when Blake,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: he's hit big plays this season. He throws effortlessly, you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just just tossing it out
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: there and letting the guy so confident. And I think
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: there's something when you asked me earlier about what for
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: net brains, there is an element of that, um for
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: that's important. Just having one more piece that you feel
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: like you can rely on. Uh, you know, if if
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you had that, if you had Corey Grant, you know,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: just all these things that you feel like you spent
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: months sort of game planning for one more piece back
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: as as a security. UM, I think it helped everything
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in that sense. And I know your question was more
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: how did he specifically helped? But I think he helped
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: in that way. When you've got one more player you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: feel like you can rely on. Boy, what a huge help.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: I got a lot of emails about, um, the Jaguars
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: offense being built wrong. I've got those for like the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: last two months. Well, yesterday was not a good example
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: against that, this was a case of you kind of
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: got again the feeling of oh, this is what they
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: thought it might be, meaning Blake not playing spectacular, but
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: playing well with some balance. I think what we saw
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: yesterday add Corey Grant, markis Lee, Sofarian Jenkins, Camera Robinson
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: into that there are glimpses where you see why they
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: approached it the way they did. And it wasn't that
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: they were just a bunch of idiots though, and you
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: know the plan if you go and watch the way
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the Rams play. Everything works through the running game. It's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: just that Todd Gurley is having an epic season and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: is not right. But there's been this storyline for six
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: weeks of how in the world could you possibly do
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: this in this day and age. Well, four and fifteen
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: yards yesterday right without some of those key points, and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they've had over five yards this season. It's not a dynamic,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: unbelievable offense, but it is an off fens that when
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: the parts are there, can function, and you know it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: It has showed that at times. Well look when they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: went down seven nothing, I thought, Okay, let's see what
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: they've got, and what you got was the big explosive play.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: When was the last time you saw the big explosive play?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: But I thought I thought the game was over. Well
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: it clearly wasn't. But to your point, the big explosive
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you had the explosive play, and then you got they
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: just had some more options. Again, you had the option
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: of the screen game, which again I think we all
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: overlooked that. But they've played how many games without Corey
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Grant and without Leonard for Nett either him on the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: field after Kansas City it was it was three. But yeah, uh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: when you had both of those guys, you had an
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: incredibly dynamic screen game that was a huge part of
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the plan. Until yesterday, it feels like you hadn't seen
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it in months. Right, entirely different plan. Now, all right,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: let's go to the second quarter. Jags down seven. At
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: this point they don't score on this try. You feel
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the game slipping away, and this is where you see
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: the positives of having seven back on the field to
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: keep this on the ground. There's certainly at four down
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Territory Town here Nick in the end zone, massive touchdown
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: for checks and Ville. Yeah, not a lot to say
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: except that it felt like the Jaguars we're going to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: do what they did against Philly, which was in the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: second half against Philly. Answer, right, keep themselves in position,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: and that's what they did here with Lenman Leonard getting
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: into the end zone. Yeah, and he scores in the
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: red zone and uh that sounds but that's what you
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: but you were confident when they got in the red
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: zone and he ran on the field, he said, okay, touchdown.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: If you remember, I think um when he was drafted,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I think that's something Tom Coughlin said to are you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: ready to score? Ready find the end zone? Right, So
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: there is an element of that. Scored twice yesterday. This
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: is what his twelfth regular season touchdown in sixteen games answered.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Really question, that's what he gives you. I mean, was
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: it just me that I had total confidence that that
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: was gonna be a touchdown? So first down he left
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and got stopped shy the goal line. We just showed that.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Second down, he got stuffed at the one yard line.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: I was confident. Doug was going for it on fourth
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: down no matter what. He was going to keep pounding.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: He got in on third down. All right, let's go
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: all the way to the third quarter. You're down to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: sixteen at this point. Logan Cook on the field sets
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: up the fake longest streak in the league. Fine, grab
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: the do they're gonna throw the football? This is a
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Shotti se and he will not get it when he's
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: close here. But from the challenge right around the fifth
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: catch and except and it's first in golf and Jacksonville
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Pack in business. So John going for the fake, talked
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: about a desperate team. Desperate teams go forward and fourth
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: down with fake field goals. And by the way, O'Shaughnessy
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was right at the line, I mean it was just
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: even with that, That's how close it was. Remember was
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: challenged by Frank Reich. I think you saw it there too.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Um what for that brings you? Yeah? The the easy
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: touchdown on play action on first and goal at the one. Anyways,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: first and goal, I don't think that's as easy. If
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: it's Grand Wild play, not to knock on Brandon Wild,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: but if it's if it's a different running back, that
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: fake sells much more for net gets out there. So
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: it's that sort of thing that stats wise, it doesn't
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: wow you that he was back, but feel wise it
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: was there with t J Yelden in there. Nothing against
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: t J. But the style is completely different. You don't
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: think there's a possibility that he's going to get in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: running behind center right right, that's just not his game.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars couldn't run power with t J. Yeldon, so
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: they could cover it differently. But as you just mentioned
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: with him in the game fake, just the idea that
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Leonard is coming up the middle makes the Colts change
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the way that they aligned themselves. That's a different back
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: in your facing second and they're spread out. They're spread
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: out instead of bunched up. Now red zone gets hard.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: It looked easy with for net. All right, let's go
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: all the way to the start of the fourth quarter.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: You have yourself a ball game right now. Three Jaguars
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: defense has to hold them and Telvin Smith comes up
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: big first play the fourth Well, so lou Can Company
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: could pass is punk it up and it's that's the
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: hands are Molly cuts and Smith is there for the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: MESSI play for Jacksonville. Incredible the start of the fourth quarter,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: you felt like, all right, let's go, here you go.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: My tweet was there's your break because it was not
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: a play that the Jaguars won in any sense until
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the very last minute when the ball was dry. You
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: know the Colts won that play until it dropped, But hey,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: the NFL is about opportunities making plays, and Telvin made
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: the play when he had the chance to, so credit him.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It was a massive momentum ship because you remember that
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Colts drive began because of the missed field goal by
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: um A Lambeau, and so then they got the ball back.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You're thinking, oh, because remember they got at the fort
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: two yard line. You're thinking, here's where Andrew a lot
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: of six point leads and you're thinking two scores coming up,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and here's where Andrew luck make. So there's a great
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: play and the athleticism of Talvin to see that ball,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: track it in the air and then pull it down. Um,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: that's the kind of play that we got used to
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: watching Telvin make last year, and that's the first one
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we've seen from him this year. We always talk about,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a league of play, it's lead big
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: plays where games swing on four or five plays. And
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the point I was making there was that it looked
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: like a play that was all pro Colts. All of
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: a sudden, the opportunities there and you make it. Jaguars
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: haven't made enough of those this year. Uh, That's how
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you usually win games when you know things you're going
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: your way. Unfortunately, things aren't going to Jaguars away, which
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: is why the end went that way. But at that point,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Starry the fourth quarters thinking go win this game, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: they got the ball back with a chance to win
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the game, and you felt like when Rashad Green pulled
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the ball in, all right, you've got overtime. It's sitting
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: there now with what a minute and a half left
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: in the ball game, with no times out left, right,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: go what are you gonna do? And then of course
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the phone. They're in perfect situation because they could have
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: drained clock down to and not left luck at anything
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: right to work with. It was. It was there for
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the taken and uh, I mean there's been a little
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: bit of a debate, and I got a lot of
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: emails last night saying it wasn't a fumble. I thought
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it was a fumble. Yeah, at the time, I couldn't
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: see it. It looked to me watching the board like
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: he had made a football move ground caused the fumble.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Of course, I couldn't see what the ball moving until
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I saw it on the replay. Here's something that that was.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: It's been brought up and that is they got the
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: play off. How can they blow it dead after they
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: get it off? So I go back to two thousand two.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars were in Cleveland in the fourth quarter. Uh
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: it appeared that Quincy Morgan had a first down, so
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the Browns line up to start a play. Jackson remembers,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: this is the bottle game with the bottles rained out
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of the sky that day, and the official in the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: broadcast in the officials booth hit the buzzer before the
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: ball was snapped. At that point, it's an official review
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: no matter what happens on the field. The mechanics of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: getting the buzzer from the booth to the sideline right
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: tells the story. It may be behind the snap, but
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: the minute they hit that buzzer, that plays dead. And
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: yesterday apparently they did that. There's no way to know.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: But the guy with the review monitor went out onto
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the field and put his arms around the line judge
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: who he couldn't see to say, hey, it's there. So
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: if people are wondering, well, how could they do that?
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: How could they get the playoff? We found out sixteen
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: years ago that once the buzzers pushed as long as
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: it's pushed before the ball is snapped. I didn't have
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: even had it not played out that way, I didn't
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: have a huge fundamental problem with it because it felt
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you wish it'd go on the Jaguars way,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: but it felt like the right call was made, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at the review, it feel like the right
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: team got the ball in turn. You know, if objectively speaking,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: hold the ball, hold the football. Drive time viewers, let's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you be the judge. A minute thirty five left in
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the game, Shan Green, is it a fumble or not?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe not? You don't get from the gun over the middle,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: delivers and then the football comes loose. Got the review
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: of the play, the game over, and with it, the
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Jaguars playoff hopes seemingly extinguished with seven Gays games to play. Yeah,
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we really didn't have the angle on that on that replay,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: but on the slow when you came from the angle
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: that was from the line of scrimmage, it looked to
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: me like the ball began to move just before his
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: knee touchdown and before and the moment. So when you
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: watch it again you see twenty three reach in there.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, just he's thinking the guys caught the ball,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: but he just throws it in there anyway, and that
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: was enough to pull it out. So game over. Uh
• 39:46
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by Jet Home Loans. On a Monday,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Jaguars three and six and in last place in the
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: a f C South this morning. Seven games remain a
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: big one on Sunday in terms of the opponent. The
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Steelers come in. But before we get there, let's go
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: to the zone. Heard this a couple of times, I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: wrap it up that minute you're done with then like
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: the highlight of your week's high But it's on my
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: rain turns I hear all the time. All right, let's
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: go to Hawthorne for the first O zone question. The
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: fumble in the fourth seems to summarize this season, expecting
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: something very big, getting completely let down. Where do we
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: go from here, though, Well, we've touched on the symbolic
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: nature of the fumble, and uh it certainly was pride, professionalism.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You know, it's it's uh, it's such a yeah thing
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: to be talking about in mid November. Yeah, you'd always
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: start talking about the draft and free agency now, but
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: you got seven weeks and uh, over these next seven weeks,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: we will see a couple of guys I'm not even
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: sure who they'll be, Uh, step up, start looking like
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: they're gonna belong here. You're gonna see the last games
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: for some of these guys in Jay War's uniforms. That's
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: where you're at now. You know it's not mathematically over.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Miracles happen, but right now you can't think that way.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: So where you go from here? You line up, put
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: your big point, put your big boy pants on, and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: play do your job. All right, let's go to all
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the way from Brazil. At three and six, we can ask,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: does this team have the fight to finish at five
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: hundred seems impossible? Well, it's a fair question. I mean,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: it's uh, there'd be five and two going in. Yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I doubt it. Yeah, I don't. I think they have
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the fight, don't get me wrong. I wonder whether they
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: have the players to get there, right, Yeah, I mean
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: it's you saw the last couple of weeks where they are.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It's it's not a lack of fight. It's not that
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: they're not going out and trying. Games like the last
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks are what happens when you're playing hard,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: you have a chance, you're still fighting for it. It's
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and you're just not good enough to finish it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: They've had chances in the last couple of games. They
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: could have beaten the Eagles, they could have beaten the Colts,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: excuse me, and they didn't. I would anticipate at the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: last seven games that they'll lose three or four games
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like that and probably get a few three and four
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: something like that. Um, I wish I could confidently say
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: five and two. I would look a little damn if
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I said that. That's hard though. It's hard to be confident,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: right well, right, I mean, so now you're down another
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: starting offensive lineman. I mean, we haven't heard anything again
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: on Brandon Linder, but the look of it is is
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: that you'll miss him with seven games left to play.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Look like they were doing stability work and the kind
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of brace that he was wearing last evening in the
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, you know when you see that,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: it's probably not a good sign. So you're probably down
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to starting offensive line. You're down, uh three of your
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: top seven right with Josh Well so though you know
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you may get him back, you're down to tight end,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: you're down Corey Grant. On the offensive side of the ball. Uh,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think fight is the issue. Um, maybe on
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: the defensive side where there was some squabbling going on
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and guys weren't playing their assignments yesterday, maybe maybe you
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: could say there the fight might be gone. Although that's
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: a proud group. And yeah, yeah, I mean if you're
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: looking at an area where you could really turn the
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: microscope and say, okay, let's see what you got, it's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the defensive side of the ball. Yeah.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And again, coming into this season, we never never thought
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: that was going to be the issue. And that's gonna
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: be tough because the the instinct when you're fighting is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to go after the big play. Uh, make something happen.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: And it takes tremendous discipline to play just your assignment
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: and to play a team football. At this point, that's
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the issue is doing that? All right, let's go to
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Columbus Eric Kay. We often blame the offense to why
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: the defense is struggling. On Sunday, the offense made the
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: defense look good in the second half with long drives.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Our defense is not good. How did it go bad
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: so fast? They all are completely lost? This isn't rocket science.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: It's rocket science. That hard. I mean, that's always you know,
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: I would think it's very hard. Yeah, it's it's a
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: sign me up for that because that's always it's not
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: rocket science. Well yeah, okay, Um, you ever see the
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: movie Mystery Alaska? I have it. It's not rocket surgery. Okay,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you know, brain surgery rocket science? Okay? Um? How to
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: go this bad? You know, it's a it's a it's
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a difficult game when everything is not going your way,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: when everyon's down the same page. It just feels like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: too often this year, especially defensively, you thought that the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: continuity in the defensive backfield was going to be a
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: major strength this year and a major area of improvement,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: and in fact, too many big plays back. There too
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: many breakdowns in the back seven. Uh, that has made
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: it look bad at times. So the secondary in particular. Right,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: last year, you had two Pro Bowl corners at all
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: pro corner and you thought you had the best cornerback
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: tandon or at least you could claim you had the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: best quarterback tandem in football. Well, I mean Jalen still
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: makes plays that know, whether you know the play that
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: he made in London against again the Eagles. I mean
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys that can do that. Maybe
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: maybe there's two other guys that can do that in
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: the league. But he hasn't played at all pro level
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: this year. And on the other side, a J boy
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: was not even though he's injured now, was not playing
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: like a J boy did last year. Um, Barry Church's
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: had a really rough day yesterday. Yeah, he has not
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: played very well. Um Telvin has not made the plays
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: like he made yesterday most of this season. Well. Right,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: And to further that, the pass rush has not been
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: what it was. I still maintain given the opportunities of
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the pass rush is just a hint below what it
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: was last year. I don't I don't think the pass
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: rush is a disaster, although the numbers say differently, but
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: the linebackers overall this season not filling their gaps as
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: well as they need to it. It's hurt at times
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: in the run game. Um, they played with the lead
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: and last year a lot and they're very good defense
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: when they're putting the hammer down. They have not been
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: nearly as good this year when playing an even situation.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Having said that, especially the energy level from the sideline
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: was the defense came to play in the second half. Yes,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: they were helped by an offense that had eight and
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a half minute drive to start things out, But they
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: went out there and they shut down the Colts, right.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I get it that there were some guys open and
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: luck didn't you know they dropped the ball. But for
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the most drops happen all the time. They shut them down.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: They shut them up. They only had sixty yards of
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: offense in the in the second half, and thirty five
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: came on one play with four minutes left. Right, So
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: they did come and there was energy and they responded
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: to what the offense gave them, but it was too little,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: too late the first half. Where were they right? So um,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: and again the story from yesterday is they did not
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: play good assignment football. That's that. Okay, time for a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: couple of headlines for you from around the National Football
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: League from yesterday. How about this one, so dirt cutter
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: when he was here in two thousand and seven, the
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Jaguars set all their franchise records for yards and points
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: and all of that great offensive mind and the Colts
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: offense ranked number one in yards twenty eight points a game,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: in the top five there yesterday. He takes over play
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: calling responsibilities and the Bucks become the first team, according
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: to ESPN two record more than five hundred yards of
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: offense and score three points. Are less, right, I mean
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: it's really hard to may have done that against the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Rams once back in the day, but they scored more
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: than three, didn't they you're talking about in ninety six? Yeah,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: they scored. Yeah, and Mark through Mark through five interceptions.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: That and the since you make the analogy, the Bucks
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: at four turnovers yesterday too. Yeah, there you go, and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that's what killed the Jags in UH ninety six in St. Louis. Right,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Moving right along, speaking of the Rams, the Mexico game
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, how about this, right, first of all, talk
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: about hitting it nine in one versus nine in one.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: The Chiefs average thirty five point one points per game.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: The Rams average thirty three point five points per game.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: The over under according to the Las Vegas and now
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the gambling is all of a sudden becoming a thing legalized.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: We'll be talking more about these kinds of things in
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: the years to come. In the NFL, UM sixty four points.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: It's the highest over under than anyone can remember since
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: two thousand nine when it was sixty two points for
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: the Rams in a game game Um who played that
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: yere against the forty niners. But it's the highest since nineteen.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could see. We just saw the Rams
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: against the Saint it's another high scoring team and that
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: was what seven something like that. Basically, it has the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: potential to be an epic shootout at stadium as Teca,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: which is what a hundred thousand to nine and one
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: teams They really really nailed it. And finally we wrap
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: up with special teams. Remember a couple of weeks ago
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: when Mason Crosby missed four field goals in an extra point, Well,
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: the next week he came back. He rebounded thanks to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: the support of Mike McCarthy and the team and was
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the Special Teams Player the Week. How about this one.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: This is Cody Parkey, a nine million dollar kicker that
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: was signed by the Bears this year. He hit the
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: uprights four times yesterday. Can you imagine that? Yis? How
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: often does that happen in a game? Let alone four
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: times for one kicker hitting the upper You can do
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that if you tried. I wouldn't think so. I wouldn't
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: think so. They want, which is probably why. But Matt Neggie,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: when asked about that in the in the post game,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: said there's no chance we're cutting him. Of course, you
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: also have the fact that you know they gave the
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: guy nine million and he's got that guarantee on their cap.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: But I just you just dump thound. He could hit
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the uprights twice, would seem impossible. For four times? Just yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: you may never see that again. All right, there's your
• 52:25
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• 52:27
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  Speaker 1: for net with two touchdowns yesterday, slightly edging Blake Bortles.
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  Speaker 1: I would be voting for Boardles in this one completion yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: he did have an impact. Yeah, he hadn't picked it
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  Speaker 1: to talk about why the draft class isn't this isn't that.
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  Speaker 1: He and Ronnie Harrison look like they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: good players. I'm not sure about Tavin Bryan right now. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't get a pass to the whole he will
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  Speaker 1: he won't he My thing is out the window. But
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  Speaker 1: I did get a great email just now. Okay, let's
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  Speaker 1: hear it. Hi, ron Stead has an opening for a
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  Speaker 1: labor a laborer in their Moscow location. We thought you
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  Speaker 1: to me, right Who do you think you're taking? Are you?
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  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you thinking that there's a player that
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  Speaker 1: you should apply for you? You better get out of
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  Speaker 1: I must I have no idea. I have amazing what
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  Speaker 1: had Clay's Campbell. I did, yes. I said he will
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  Speaker 1: push this team. He absolutely did. In the locker room
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  Speaker 1: after the game, you saw him pushing his teammates. Yet again,
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  Speaker 1: I said he won't have a huge game. I don't
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  Speaker 1: say he had a huge game, but he did have
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  Speaker 1: a very productive game. Five tackles and they made plays
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  Speaker 1: when it mattered. Said he might be one of the
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  Speaker 1: sole reasons this team gets back on track. Well, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get back on track. So mine goes out the
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  Speaker 1: wind as well. But he played well. So I had
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  Speaker 1: Leonard and I said he'd have a hundred yards and
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown. I probably should have been more specifics than
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  Speaker 1: a hundred yards rushing, which is what I meant. He
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  Speaker 1: had a hundred and six yards from scrimmage. He had
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  Speaker 1: just over fifth I think fifty three rushing, fifty three receivings.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you the hundred because with this offense right now,
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  Speaker 1: hundred receiving hundred two touchdowns. It's here's the thing. I
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  Speaker 1: said he might stand in the locker room and smile
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  Speaker 1: after the game and talk to the media. Well he
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  Speaker 1: stood in the locker room talk to the media. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't smile, Uh no, because they didn't win, But he
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  Speaker 1: did score two touchdowns and he did talk, and for
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  Speaker 1: that we are appreciative because he did not talk during
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  Speaker 1: a week last week, and we wondered whether he would so.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of talking, you've done a fine jump to talking today. Moscow, Moscow.
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  Speaker 1: If he's not here Wednesday, that's where he is. Get away.
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  Speaker 1: Keep your head on the swivel for Ashlyn Sullivan and
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  Speaker 1: John Ozier. For Joe Fortunato and Max Hawkman. Signing off
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  Speaker 1: on a Monday edition of Drive Time. Thanks for the
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  Speaker 1: Talk to you soon.