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Come On Now! It's Litia Garr! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost as podcast. Today is me.
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Speaker 2: Ben is on a plane. He was delayed, so he
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Speaker 2: isn't able to make our interview with the beautiful, the
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Speaker 2: wonderful Latia Gar. Hello, welcome to the show.
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Speaker 3: Hi Ashley, thanks so much for having me.
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Speaker 2: Hi, Oh my gosh, thank you so much for being here.
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Speaker 2: You were one of the cast members in recent memory
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Speaker 2: that I can actually feel being like very glued to.
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Speaker 2: I loved I actually enjoyed watching Grants season in episodes
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Speaker 2: because of you, because like I really started to feel
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Speaker 2: very attached to you. I guess like top six ish, okay,
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Speaker 2: and just like thank you for being such a compelling character.
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Speaker 2: I was really rooting for you. I think that you
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Speaker 2: just seemed like you were like fun and you're beautiful,
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Speaker 2: he had depth, and I don't know, you like kind
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Speaker 2: of felt like a character that we would have seen
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Speaker 2: years ago on the franchise. Not that like that's not
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Speaker 2: the poopoo on anybody right now, but it's just like
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Speaker 2: the investment that I had in your relationship was the
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Speaker 2: investment level that I was more used to having about
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Speaker 2: a decade ago.
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Speaker 3: Oh, that's so nice of you to say.
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Speaker 4: I feel like I have looked out with the conversations
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Speaker 4: in time that I had, like serious, like compelling stuff
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Speaker 4: came up. I feel like, I mean, we really didn't
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Speaker 4: talk about it like anyone else in the house.
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Speaker 3: It was mostly just about me and him.
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Speaker 4: So I feel like it made it easier in that
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Speaker 4: way that most of our time was just about him
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Speaker 4: and I.
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Speaker 3: So that's nice of you. Thank you so much, thanks
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Speaker 3: for having me. I'm a course thanks.
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Speaker 2: So when you look back on your time on the season,
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Speaker 2: do you see it through totally different lenses? When you left?
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Speaker 2: Did you think, man, I am heartbroken and this pain
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Speaker 2: is going to last so long? Or did you have
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Speaker 2: some sort of like I always describe like the lifting
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Speaker 2: of the bachelor bubble kind of or you're all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden thinking like oh wow, like he was hot,
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Speaker 2: but I think it was just hot and I'm not
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Speaker 2: sure whether or not like I truly felt as intensely
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Speaker 2: because you're in this bubble, What do you was? What
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Speaker 2: was your thoughts?
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Speaker 4: I think I have looked at it from a few
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Speaker 4: different lenses, right, Like I think initially when I went
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Speaker 4: home and I'm like driving away in the car, I'm like,
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Speaker 4: what was that? Like, I'm so like confused, Like I
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Speaker 4: just had the rug pulled and I have no context
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Speaker 4: or anything. And I think like as I sat at home,
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Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, yeah, it was a little bit
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Speaker 4: of a bubble, and like I kind of it kind
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Speaker 4: of starts to click that like I really didn't have
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Speaker 4: that much time with him, so there really were so
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Speaker 4: many gaps that were like big, and I just missed
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Speaker 4: so many like parts of his person and there's just
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Speaker 4: like missing context for so much.
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Speaker 3: And then for sure watching it back.
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Speaker 4: And seeing like other people's conversations added even like a
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Speaker 4: different layer of perspective where I was like, Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 4: like the conversations that he's having with other people are
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Speaker 4: not aligned with the version that I that I had
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Speaker 4: in my head while I was filming. And so it's
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Speaker 4: like you continue to learn. And I think that's like
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Speaker 4: with any breakup, you know, like you continued, like it
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Speaker 4: kind of continues to make sense more and more as
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Speaker 4: you get away from it, and as like your feelings
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Speaker 4: kind of like fade away, you know.
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Speaker 2: Can you give us an example, Yeah, can you give
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Speaker 2: us an example of like a conversation that you saw
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Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, this is totally different than what
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Speaker 2: I thought that guy was about.
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Speaker 4: I mean, any of his time with Juliana was just,
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Speaker 4: like I think, a different version of him than I saw,
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Speaker 4: you know, like I think, but that's also so fair,
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Speaker 4: because you know, different people bring out different sides of you,
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Speaker 4: and so like that's not to say anything about either
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Speaker 4: one of them. It was just more like, oh, yeah, no,
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Speaker 4: our relationship was so so different than theirs, and like
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Speaker 4: I just didn't you know, there were parts of it
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Speaker 4: where I.
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Speaker 3: Just like didn't recognize. I was like, oh, okay, Like
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Speaker 3: good to know.
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Speaker 2: There was some speculation during your season that if you
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Speaker 2: were to pick you, he was in it, he was
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Speaker 2: gonna have to long haul it. Take it seriously, Heaven
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Speaker 2: forbid you take an engagement sercialces. Oh yeah, yes, yes.
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Speaker 2: But if he went the Juliana route, she may have
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Speaker 2: been a little bit more lax about how far, you know,
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Speaker 2: how fast they led to marriage and all that. Maybe
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Speaker 2: he got the vibe that he could just like date
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Speaker 2: her in real life. What's your thoughts watching it back, especially.
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I think that Juliana's timeline is different
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Speaker 4: than mine. I didn't really ever talk to her about that,
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Speaker 4: but mine wasn't news to him, Like we talked about
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Speaker 4: that during the Finance.
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Speaker 3: Date when Hannah Berner was on. He like, yeah, this
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Speaker 3: game too.
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Speaker 4: They didn't to show our conversation that night, but he
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Speaker 4: put this game together with different cards and asked about
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Speaker 4: my timeline when I wanted to have kids, and I
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Speaker 4: was like, well, once, I like meet my person like
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Speaker 4: within two years, and so if it's you, then like
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Speaker 4: two years from now is ideal. But that's like a conversation.
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Speaker 4: That's a lot of conversations that we have together, and so.
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Speaker 3: My religion and my timeline and all.
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Speaker 4: The rest of it seemed to be a big deal
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Speaker 4: for him at the end, but it wasn't new information.
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Speaker 3: He knew that week too, so I was kind of
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Speaker 3: like all right.
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Speaker 2: And to me, say I love you and said like
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Speaker 2: you're the one.
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Speaker 3: Yeah several times.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah it was that.
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Speaker 3: He said it the first time.
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Speaker 4: I think he said it on FaceTime to my mom,
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Speaker 4: and he said it like throughout the date, like the
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Speaker 4: puppy date. He said it like a bunch of times,
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Speaker 4: and I remember looking at it like like I literally
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Speaker 4: looked at Bradford, and I was like, are you, like,
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Speaker 4: is you like allowed to say stuff like that?
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Speaker 3: And you know I was. It was just.
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Speaker 4: He continued to say it the whole time, whether or
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Speaker 4: not he was supposed to. And I know that they
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Speaker 4: talked to him about it several times, but yeah, he
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Speaker 4: kept saying it.
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Speaker 2: What's crazy is like I know that multiple bachelors, my
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Speaker 2: co hosts included, have said I love you to two
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Speaker 2: people like that to me, like actually makes sense. What
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Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me is him kept keep he
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Speaker 2: kept saying to you, you're the one, like you're the one.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
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Speaker 2: He's even more intense in the bachelor process totally.
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Speaker 4: I think, like it's so hard and like this is
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Speaker 4: dating in general, right, Like you are thinking, like when
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Speaker 4: they say something to me, that means something to me,
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Speaker 4: but I don't really know what that means to you,
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Speaker 4: and like you might be someone that they're like trying
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Speaker 4: on for size and they say things like you're my wife.
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Speaker 4: You're the one that I'm like, oh my gosh, you
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Speaker 4: act like you know so in my mind you know
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Speaker 4: that I'm your wife. So I got to catch up
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Speaker 4: or I got to like, you know, cut you loose
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Speaker 4: and so. But to them they're just like no, like
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Speaker 4: that's just like how I like approach dating, Like I don't.
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Speaker 2: Know, that's messed up.
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Speaker 3: It is, it's messed up.
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Speaker 4: But I like, I'm not going to pretend to know
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Speaker 4: what goes on in the minds of boys and men.
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Speaker 4: But I think, like, you know, for whatever reason, it
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Speaker 4: made sense to him. And I think I think he
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Speaker 4: even now says that he didn't say it, which is
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Speaker 4: like fine, I don't care, like it's you know whatever,
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Speaker 4: But I think that, yeah, he said it a bunch
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Speaker 4: and like you're my wife. He said it for the
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Speaker 4: first time actually to me and to like producers when
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Speaker 4: it was on the first group date when we did
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Speaker 4: like that R and B like my open mic thing,
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Speaker 4: when we had like our conversation and I was crying
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Speaker 4: about dating and he was like, I know that you're
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Speaker 4: my wife and then he like said it, Oh yeah,
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Speaker 4: I don't know he's where's this part on his sape?
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Speaker 3: I think is what he calls it.
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Speaker 2: I know that you're my wife from like week two.
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Speaker 4: Which is like so old red flag right like that
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Speaker 4: like normal people don't say stuff like that, Yeah that's true.
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Speaker 4: When is your wife after you know, fifteen minutes, thirty
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Speaker 4: minutes of conversation, so that should have been like my
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Speaker 4: first thing. I think in my mind, I was like, well,
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Speaker 4: he knows it's being filmed, and like he's actually actively
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Speaker 4: dating other people, so like there's a litmus test kind
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Speaker 4: of built into this process of like comparing everything and
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Speaker 4: like comparing other relationships.
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Speaker 2: It sounds way more intense to say that, yeah when
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Speaker 2: there's other people involved.
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Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
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Speaker 2: If you were like dating in real life and he
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Speaker 2: said that, and then you guys got to know each
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Speaker 2: other better and it ended up not being the truth.
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Speaker 2: That would be like one thing, yeah, but for you
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Speaker 2: to just be in a competition and he crowns you
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Speaker 2: wife at that point, Wow, okay, actions matched.
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Speaker 4: I think was the was, honestly, like the most like
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Speaker 4: I don't even I don't want to say deceiving part,
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Speaker 4: but like that's that That is what I felt let
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Speaker 4: on by the most is that like, yeah, it was
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Speaker 4: the only one that had two one on one dates
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Speaker 4: and I was the you know, like he always called
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Speaker 4: my name first for roses and like like other girls
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Speaker 4: like when they were leaving, like in their exit interviews
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Speaker 4: were like well I know it's her, like, so it
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Speaker 4: like it wasn't just like, oh, it's all in my head.
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Speaker 4: I was like, no, like I mean privately and publicly
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Speaker 4: like he like his actions match his words.
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Speaker 2: Just do you think there's love bombing? Like I don't
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Speaker 2: even know what.
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Speaker 4: Hundred percent, but I think, like to say I love
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Speaker 4: you in eight weeks that's love, Like that's in my mind.
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Speaker 4: You know, that's like a very like accelerated like dating relationship,
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Speaker 4: from meeting someone to getting engaged like you, I kind
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Speaker 4: of like had already made my piece at that going in.
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 4: Like I was just like, yeah, yeah, the show goes,
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Speaker 4: I know that they get engaged at the end, So there.
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Speaker 2: Is like romance bombing.
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Speaker 4: Yeah exactly, like there like there's a love bomby like
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Speaker 4: aspect of this whole thing built into it.
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Speaker 2: Mm hmm yeah definitely. So when do you think it's
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Speaker 2: switched to him choosing Juliana? Hey, I heard we all
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Speaker 2: heard here on this podcast. Did you hear about a
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Speaker 2: possible coin flip?
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Speaker 3: Oh I heard about the coin flip.
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Speaker 4: I didn't hear any like confirmation about that. Yeah, if
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Speaker 4: there was a coin flip, I'm grateful for however, it all.
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Speaker 2: Turned off, I know, because you would have gotten the
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Speaker 2: right side of the coin, that's for sure.
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Speaker 4: I think in my mind it's like God's plan, Like
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Speaker 4: I think I felt so like looked after and grateful
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Speaker 4: for my experience I had. I had such a good
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Speaker 4: experience really because the whole time I was like I
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Speaker 4: didn't ever stress, like every real ceremony, I was like,
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Speaker 4: oh I'm good, no worries, and like, you know.
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Speaker 3: I'm just like I'm just there for a good time.
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Speaker 4: Like hey, you know, I like, I mean, like I
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Speaker 4: made so many amazing friends and like, you know, everyone
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Speaker 4: on the crew like product, Like I still like text
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Speaker 4: and like keep in touch with them. Like I had
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Speaker 4: such a great time, and then it was really just
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Speaker 4: only a bummer at the.
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Speaker 2: End, one bad moment. Yeah I got.
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Speaker 4: Food poisoning and then I got the rug pulled. But
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Speaker 4: really I think it was you know, protection, so.
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Speaker 2: A blessing, a true blessing in disguise. Do you have
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Speaker 2: any idea though, when like it would have flipped in
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Speaker 2: his head if it weren't for a coin flip.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's probably around overnights, I would.
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Speaker 2: Guess, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if I had to guess when it would have been,
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Speaker 3: that's when.
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Speaker 2: I'm not remembering correctly. Were overnights a thing for you
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Speaker 2: with with your Mormon religion? Did you clarify that you
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Speaker 2: were not going to be sleeping with him in the
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Speaker 2: it's just sweet?
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Speaker 3: So so in my religion, we don't.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's like most Christian religions, like
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Speaker 4: we are, I don't believe in premarital sex.
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Speaker 3: For me.
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Speaker 4: An added layer of that was that there are other
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Speaker 4: people involved, and like at a minimum, you know, I
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Speaker 4: don't want to like have anything like when I know
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Speaker 4: that we're not exclusive, you know, and not just that,
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Speaker 4: but like I know the other girls that are there,
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Speaker 4: and I'm friends with them, I love them, Like that's
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Speaker 4: so And if you're for me, like that's weird.
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Speaker 3: And if you're not, I.
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Speaker 4: Don't, you know, want to be like having that kind
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Speaker 4: of a night with my friend's fiance that she's getting engcourse.
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Speaker 3: You know, like that's just weird to me.
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Speaker 4: Even though I knew, you know, it was a part
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Speaker 4: of the process and that was coming. I had just
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Speaker 4: kind of decided before I came that that was just
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Speaker 4: like just not really how I wanted to spend that time.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard that Grant is right now very vocal
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Speaker 2: about his celibacy journey.
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Speaker 3: I did. I heard that. Yeah, good for him.
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Speaker 2: Anything else to elaborate on.
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Speaker 3: No power to him. Okay, yeah, good luck he.
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Speaker 2: He is. We thought interesting. It was interesting, like I'm
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Speaker 2: all about him actually talking about that publicly. But what
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Speaker 2: was interesting to us was that, like he said that
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Speaker 2: he has some credentials for being a dating expert because
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Speaker 2: he was the Bachelor. That's why he's doing a new
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Speaker 2: dating show. What do you think about having.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would love to see his resume.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well his show will come out soon and
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Speaker 2: we'll know further about how he deems himself an expert.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the next week or so. I do
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Speaker 2: think it's like a YouTube show. I'm not one hundred
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Speaker 2: percent show.
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Speaker 3: Nice okay, good for him, Yeah, happy for him.
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Speaker 2: So we know that you Letia and Juliana do not
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Speaker 2: follow each other on Instagram? Was that? Oh? Was that
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Speaker 2: a real friendship to begin with?
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Speaker 4: So my friendship with Juliana was the same as like
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Speaker 4: my friendship with most of the girls. I think that
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Speaker 4: obviously you're closer to certain people because either you share
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Speaker 4: like a room with them, or you happen to be
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Speaker 4: on the same group dates as them, or you just
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Speaker 4: like naturally.
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Speaker 3: Are more drawn to other peoples.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that for a lot of the time,
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Speaker 4: I think she kind of like isolated herself from the
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Speaker 4: group and so she was not really I would say,
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Speaker 4: close with as many of the girls until towards the end,
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Speaker 4: like in Scotland, so like to me, like, I genuinely
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Speaker 4: like and I still do, like I care for Juliana.
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Speaker 3: I have love for her.
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Speaker 4: I want to see like her successful and happy, and
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Speaker 4: I think that I don't agree with some of her
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Speaker 4: choices and some of the things that she said there
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Speaker 4: at the end, but like, I still like I don't
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Speaker 4: have any ill will towards her, and I certainly don't
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Speaker 4: like hold anything against her.
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Speaker 3: I think she's doing the best she can.
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Speaker 2: So it was never like you guys were besties, no, Okay, Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I was very close to and Dina okay, and Zoe
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Speaker 4: and Alex and Natalie, and like I think those were
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Speaker 4: like my closer closer girls throughout filming.
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Speaker 2: Did you did you reach out at all after the breakup?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Juliana and I facetimed like oh you did after yeah,
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Speaker 4: and it was like totally friendly until the end. It
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Speaker 4: was like news to me at the end that like
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Speaker 4: I was making up and I was, you know, she
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Speaker 4: took offense to things. There was an offense intended, but
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Speaker 4: that's how it was taken.
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Speaker 2: So so that was throughout the like the airing and
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Speaker 2: like before airing, before.
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Speaker 4: Airing, exchange text messages and yeah, up until honestly, like
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Speaker 4: I think maybe hometowns are overnights the week that those aired, okay,
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Speaker 4: like texting and okay and then checking in on each
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Speaker 4: other and yeah.
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Speaker 2: But then when the two of them broke up, Julana
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Speaker 2: and Grant, you didn't you didn't talk to her since then,
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Speaker 2: I haven't talked to her alrighty, so you are friends with.
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Speaker 3: That as well. Yeah, I wish her well.
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Speaker 2: Oh of course, of course, of course, yes, No, I
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Speaker 2: mean that makes total sense. If you guys stopped talking
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Speaker 2: long before their breakup, that wouldn't make any sense as
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Speaker 2: to why you would have talked afterward, unless you know
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Speaker 2: she wanted to be like, I'm jealous. I wish I
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Speaker 2: didn't have to go through that.
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Speaker 3: No, she doesn't even jealous. She's doing well, she's doing
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Speaker 3: She's doing just fine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, So our next bachelorette, Taylor Friggy Paul is
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Speaker 2: also Mormon, also lives in Utah. And uh, I remember
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Speaker 2: that there was some like spotting of you with some
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Speaker 2: of the Secret Wives ladies.
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Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
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Speaker 2: Were you filming an episode of the show.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that there was filming going on. I'm
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Speaker 4: not like a cast member or anything.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you've maybe been around the set before.
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Speaker 3: I've been around. Yeah, I've been around okay while they're filmed.
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Speaker 2: So then do you know do you know Taylor?
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Speaker 3: I know Taylor. I've met Taylor a few times. I
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Speaker 3: really like her. I'm excited to watch her. I think
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Speaker 3: she is.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I was a fan of Secret Lives of
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Speaker 4: Mormon Wives, like before I ever met any of them,
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Speaker 4: and so like, I'm just like, I you know, they're
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Speaker 4: good at their job. Like I'm entertained that. So I'm
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Speaker 4: I'm a fan of Taylor. I want to see her
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Speaker 4: win and I'm excited.
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Speaker 2: Is there any think that you think the audience should
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Speaker 2: know that Taylor should keep in mind when filming when
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Speaker 2: it comes to being more men.
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Speaker 4: One thing that I hope that maybe happened because I
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Speaker 4: was on in the season before, is I hope that
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Speaker 4: people are just a little bit more open minded that
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Speaker 4: I think there's like a lot of like cult talk,
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Speaker 4: and I will say, I want to shout out you
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Speaker 4: and Ben, and Ben especially because I think he knows
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Speaker 4: some people that are like active in my religion. And
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Speaker 4: I really appreciated how much grace and like, uh, open
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Speaker 4: mindedness and realness you guys talked about my religion and
18:39
Speaker 4: specifically me with I think a lot of people. And
18:43
Speaker 4: when I say a lot, it's like maybe there were
18:45
Speaker 4: a few people, but it takes up a lot of
18:46
Speaker 4: space in your brain, you.
18:48
Speaker 3: Know when people say it.
18:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
18:49
Speaker 4: But I think that there's like a misconception about my
18:52
Speaker 4: religion that women especially are. It's really really strict for women,
18:58
Speaker 4: and it's like very narrow own minded and conservative and traditional,
19:02
Speaker 4: and I think that by the world standards and like
19:05
Speaker 4: you know, everything else that's going on, it is conservative.
19:09
Speaker 4: But we all definitely have our own agency and free
19:13
Speaker 4: will to choose whatever we want. And like the biggest
19:18
Speaker 4: thing about our religion is that we are taught is
19:20
Speaker 4: that God loves you, and that like church and religion
19:24
Speaker 4: and his love is for everyone. And so I think
19:27
Speaker 4: that a lot of people view our choices as like, oh,
19:31
Speaker 4: that must It's like our religion is very prescriptive, and
19:33
Speaker 4: like she must be doing that because she thinks that
19:36
Speaker 4: the men in her life or the you know, like
19:39
Speaker 4: her church leaders are gonna come down on her.
19:41
Speaker 3: For this, and it's like, no, Like, I live according to.
19:46
Speaker 4: My religion standards because I actually believe that's the thing
19:50
Speaker 4: that brings the most happiness and peace to my life.
19:53
Speaker 4: And I haven't found anything else that brings that amount
19:56
Speaker 4: of joy and peace to me.
19:57
Speaker 3: So that's why it is.
19:59
Speaker 4: The core tenant that I live my life by, not
20:02
Speaker 4: because I'm scared of men or because I think that
20:07
Speaker 4: I'm scared of what people will think. Like I do
20:09
Speaker 4: things according to what I think will bring me the
20:11
Speaker 4: most happiness. So I think I hope that.
20:14
Speaker 2: That shows I hope much take.
20:18
Speaker 3: That into account. I think Taylor.
20:19
Speaker 4: I honestly really commend Taylor for everything that she has
20:24
Speaker 4: like said about her relationship, because you know, none of
20:28
Speaker 4: us are without like our regrets or mistakes, and I
20:31
Speaker 4: think that she views forgiveness and be atonement in the
20:37
Speaker 4: same way that I do. And it's just that it's
20:39
Speaker 4: for everyone, and that's why it exists. It's because we're
20:42
Speaker 4: not perfect and God wants us to be happy. So
20:46
Speaker 4: I think that's how I hope that people view our
20:50
Speaker 4: religion and us as women that are members of our religion.
20:54
Speaker 4: Is just that we're doing the best we can and
20:56
Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that we need to be perfect. We're
20:59
Speaker 4: just you know, figuring it out just like everybody else.
21:04
Speaker 2: I think she's going to demonstrate a lot of what
21:05
Speaker 2: you just said, just based on me watching season one
21:09
Speaker 2: of Housewife of you know, Mormon Wives. She's going to
21:12
Speaker 2: do a good job doing that. Is it frustrating to
21:15
Speaker 2: you guys that Mormons and Polygamis get lumped together and correctly?
21:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I think, like it's just I think there
21:24
Speaker 4: are misconceptions about any religion, you know, Like I think, yeah,
21:29
Speaker 4: has like a whole thing that they probably wish wasn't
21:31
Speaker 4: a part of their Like we all kind of have.
21:34
Speaker 3: Like no one is perfect. Again, that's why.
21:37
Speaker 4: You know, we believe in forgiveness and we subscribe to,
21:40
Speaker 4: you know, the idea that you can do better and
21:42
Speaker 4: learn and do better next time. But I think I
21:46
Speaker 4: like Polygny doesn't resonate with me. I don't understand that part.
21:49
Speaker 3: I'm with you, I don't know.
21:51
Speaker 4: I don't get that part, But I know the parts
21:55
Speaker 4: that really resonate with me, and those are the things
21:59
Speaker 4: that I love my life by.
22:01
Speaker 3: Poligamy's not one of them, though. That's that's for certain.
22:04
Speaker 4: I'm not And especially after the Bachelor experience, I don't
22:07
Speaker 4: think I'm I don't think.
22:10
Speaker 3: I don't think I've cut out for it.
22:12
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, do they ever approach you to be
22:14
Speaker 2: the bachelorette? I know that they kind of said that
22:16
Speaker 2: there wasn't going to be a bachelorette after your season,
22:19
Speaker 2: but lo and behold, it is actually what we got.
22:22
Speaker 4: I mean, I think saying like it's the same thing
22:24
Speaker 4: every season, you know, like they kind of just put
22:27
Speaker 4: feelers out and you go out for it and you
22:30
Speaker 4: talk to you know, Rob and whoever. And but then
22:34
Speaker 4: they fired all the producers. So I was like, oh, yeah,
22:37
Speaker 4: doing the showing.
22:38
Speaker 2: A bad time to be in contention to be the lead. Well,
22:42
Speaker 2: you would be a fabulous lead, and we do hope
22:44
Speaker 2: that you're on something in the future because you'd be
22:47
Speaker 2: so so good you're just You're good at holding your
22:52
Speaker 2: own and you're a good personality for this. You bring
22:55
Speaker 2: a lot of goodness to the franchise, So I hope
22:59
Speaker 2: that you're around. But before we move on to talk
23:02
Speaker 2: more about present day, I do just want to talk
23:06
Speaker 2: about your epic departure from the show. I mean maybe
23:11
Speaker 2: maybe the most memorable departure I could think of, since
23:17
Speaker 2: like a Switcheroo type season really big, right, yes, because
23:24
Speaker 2: we were floored that it wasn't you it was and
23:29
Speaker 2: you just are such like you just delivered the perfect
23:35
Speaker 2: amount of bitchiness that the situation called for. The way
23:39
Speaker 2: that you're just like called the come on now hilarious?
23:43
Speaker 2: Did you cringe a little watching it back?
23:46
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you.
23:48
Speaker 4: I love watching it back, like literally, like I was
23:52
Speaker 4: not actually I was not well, like when I tell
23:55
Speaker 4: you they gave me so much medicine because I had
23:59
Speaker 4: food poisoning, like I was not.
24:01
Speaker 3: They gave me so much medicine.
24:03
Speaker 4: To make sure that I was like I didn't have anything,
24:06
Speaker 4: Like I was okay, walk down and like and stand
24:10
Speaker 4: there for that I blacked out, Like I really don't
24:13
Speaker 4: like I like watching it because it's like I get
24:16
Speaker 4: to be like a viewer and just be like because
24:18
Speaker 4: I don't remember a ton and like I I don't
24:21
Speaker 4: say that a lot in my normal life. I was
24:25
Speaker 4: just like I think I was so exhausted and so
24:28
Speaker 4: just like I think it was like most of what
24:31
Speaker 4: you saw there was me just being like that's okay,
24:35
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't have to be me, but like be
24:38
Speaker 4: so for real right.
24:39
Speaker 2: Now, like exactly.
24:41
Speaker 4: Just literally level with me here, and like I was
24:44
Speaker 4: just looking for traction, like just be a real person
24:47
Speaker 4: and just like admit that, like you're going back on
24:50
Speaker 4: what you said this whole time, that's totally fine, but
24:53
Speaker 4: just like I like I want you to like just
24:58
Speaker 4: say it, and he just like wouldn't and so I
25:03
Speaker 4: was just like really like yeah, oh.
25:08
Speaker 2: I would have were handled it the exact same way.
25:11
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why I love it so much, Just like dude,
25:15
Speaker 2: are you wait kidding me? Are you kidding me? Because
25:18
Speaker 2: you never see that with people. You see them that
25:20
Speaker 2: get like mad and sad but mostly quiet, and you're
25:23
Speaker 2: so vocal, And I loved it so much.
25:26
Speaker 4: When that conversation was so long, Ashley, like I like
25:30
Speaker 4: we were sat there for probably forty five minutes, like
25:33
Speaker 4: Paullie and ever like is like rushing us through. They're
25:36
Speaker 4: like Grant, like you have to get in the car
25:39
Speaker 4: like you had like okay, you guys gotta start walking now,
25:42
Speaker 4: like you have to walk away. And he's like no,
25:44
Speaker 4: like he was like getting mad. He was like no
25:47
Speaker 4: a minute, like I have too much to say, and
25:50
Speaker 4: like I think ultimately I think he just like didn't
25:54
Speaker 4: want me to like be mad at him, Like he
25:56
Speaker 4: just like didn't want it to like end on bad terms.
25:59
Speaker 3: And I was just like, well, you should have thought
26:01
Speaker 3: about that.
26:02
Speaker 4: The entire time when you were saying all this stuff
26:04
Speaker 4: like I'm sorry, there's just like not a world where
26:07
Speaker 4: this ends well for you, like with and I like
26:11
Speaker 4: I was just like after every yeah said, after all
26:14
Speaker 4: of like the warnings and like how cautious I feel
26:17
Speaker 4: like I've been for both of us, and you just
26:20
Speaker 4: like barreled.
26:20
Speaker 3: Past them every time.
26:22
Speaker 4: There's not like this was gonna be bad, Like It's
26:26
Speaker 4: not like and I didn't want it to be mean either,
26:29
Speaker 4: Like I I hope it didn't come across in that way.
26:32
Speaker 2: It wasn't mean though because of what he did, it
26:35
Speaker 2: was deserving.
26:36
Speaker 3: I was just like accountable, like yeah, just be accountable.
26:41
Speaker 3: It can be done, but he just wouldn't do it.
26:43
Speaker 2: So I was like, well, so basically he was trying
26:46
Speaker 2: to keep you there for forty five five minutes, but
26:48
Speaker 2: not at all admitting that like he said things that
26:52
Speaker 2: he should have never said.
26:54
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he would be like, well do you think,
26:57
Speaker 4: like do you think I've been misleading? And I was
26:59
Speaker 4: like I literally I looked over to like the audio
27:04
Speaker 4: people on the camera people, and I was like, shall
27:06
Speaker 4: we run the tapes?
27:07
Speaker 3: Like I don't have like I don't have.
27:09
Speaker 4: The energy, and we don't have the time to like
27:11
Speaker 4: really like express to you by.
27:15
Speaker 3: Of course, like of course you've been misleading.
27:17
Speaker 4: And I don't know how much of that is like
27:19
Speaker 4: part of being the lead and how much of that
27:21
Speaker 4: is because you thought it was me or you just
27:24
Speaker 4: wanted me to like you or whatever it was. But
27:28
Speaker 4: I was just like duh, like yeah, this is this
27:34
Speaker 4: is not pleasant to your misfortune.
27:37
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have the forty five minutes
27:40
Speaker 2: aired because.
27:41
Speaker 3: Oh I was just have them aired.
27:43
Speaker 4: I would love to watch because I blacked out, Like
27:46
Speaker 4: all I know is that like my like when I
27:48
Speaker 4: got in the car and I was like, you know,
27:51
Speaker 4: trying to like make sense of it.
27:53
Speaker 3: She's like, I don't think.
27:53
Speaker 4: They've ever let anyone have that much time for like
27:57
Speaker 4: the breakup before, Like I think typically it's like a
28:00
Speaker 4: I have to ten minutes, like they like to like
28:01
Speaker 4: rush it through so that it can be like happy couple,
28:04
Speaker 4: you know. But they let me have the time, and
28:08
Speaker 4: he insisted on the time.
28:10
Speaker 2: I would have thought, and it seemed like on TV
28:12
Speaker 2: that he just wanted to get you out of there.
28:15
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I wanted to get out, Like I
28:17
Speaker 4: was like, I'm uncomfortable, like you think I want to
28:19
Speaker 4: be in this trust right now, Like I was like
28:22
Speaker 4: I want to lay down, I want to take a nap,
28:24
Speaker 4: I want to go home, like I'm ready to get
28:26
Speaker 4: out of here.
28:38
Speaker 2: So after a moment like that, I'm assuming that you
28:42
Speaker 2: just probably weren't very surprised when he and Juliana broke
28:46
Speaker 2: up so shortly after the finale.
28:50
Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean I wasn't happy to see it,
28:53
Speaker 3: like I think when we were.
28:56
Speaker 4: Wanted it, because you know, like they were like each
29:00
Speaker 4: other's match and all the rest of it. So I
29:02
Speaker 4: was like sad to see it, not work out because
29:06
Speaker 4: I was like, he for sure wanted it, So I
29:10
Speaker 4: was like, well, I want him to be happy, but yeah,
29:12
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, like, I don't know who he is,
29:14
Speaker 4: Like I I thought that I did while it aired,
29:17
Speaker 4: and then that we've seen, like, you know, a different
29:20
Speaker 4: persona online and so I think I wanted, you know,
29:24
Speaker 4: to see him be happy and figure it out, and
29:27
Speaker 4: he didn't.
29:28
Speaker 2: So maybe his new social media content is that he
29:34
Speaker 2: seems very very much interested in finding the one now
29:39
Speaker 2: and I think that that a lot of people doubted
29:42
Speaker 2: that desire about a year ago. And I don't really
29:46
Speaker 2: know if I have a question about that, but just
29:49
Speaker 2: a statement.
29:51
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't really see his stuff very often.
29:56
Speaker 3: I did see.
29:56
Speaker 4: The celibacy thing and cheering them on in that regard,
30:01
Speaker 4: but I really don't know anything else.
30:04
Speaker 2: Alrighty, Well, have you dated at all since?
30:08
Speaker 3: Yeah? I've dated a little bit here and there.
30:11
Speaker 2: What's a date look like these days? It's been a
30:13
Speaker 2: long time for me, Like, is it still sucks so bad?
30:17
Speaker 3: It sucks so bad, Ashley.
30:21
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry.
30:24
Speaker 3: No, it's they're fine. They're fun.
30:27
Speaker 4: There are good guys out there, and I think, like
30:30
Speaker 4: I have definitely been on dates with good guys and
30:34
Speaker 4: been on a date with a few duds. That's just
30:36
Speaker 4: you know, the luck of the draw. That's how it goes.
30:40
Speaker 4: But nothing to be jealous.
30:42
Speaker 2: So okay, so no one out there of note right now?
30:46
Speaker 4: There's a few of note I think, Oh okay, there
30:49
Speaker 4: are until you know, you gotta keep hope. You know,
30:53
Speaker 4: you gotta stay possible.
30:55
Speaker 2: Okay, good, okay, great, all right, so there's some guys
30:58
Speaker 2: that you're still talking to. Oh yeah, okay, great. Have
31:03
Speaker 2: you been interested or ever DMed with anybody from Brachelination?
31:07
Speaker 3: I don't think so.
31:09
Speaker 4: I think like friendly exchanges, but I haven't like been
31:13
Speaker 4: on dates with anyone or like nothing romantic from anyone.
31:18
Speaker 2: We thought you hung out with Alex, who is now
31:21
Speaker 2: with Andrew. I just want to say that they're engaged
31:23
Speaker 2: because they're so cute and I want them to be engaged.
31:25
Speaker 3: I love them so much.
31:28
Speaker 4: I love like, I truly like Alex is like my
31:31
Speaker 4: little sister like I. We are so different, but we
31:36
Speaker 4: are like bonded. I like, I don't know why, we
31:39
Speaker 4: like text all the time, FaceTime every day, Like I
31:42
Speaker 4: just I love Alex.
31:44
Speaker 3: And when they came into town. I was like, like,
31:47
Speaker 3: I really hope I like Andrew and I totally did.
31:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, he's wonderful. They're just the most cute
31:53
Speaker 2: thing in the entire world. She was one of the
31:56
Speaker 2: people that I felt like very similarly towards you, like
31:59
Speaker 2: like I felt about you, but I felt mostly with
32:03
Speaker 2: that with Alex when she was on Paradise, Like I
32:06
Speaker 2: loved watching Alex on Paradise.
32:08
Speaker 4: Yes, no, I feel like she really got to shine
32:10
Speaker 4: on Paradise. I loved watching her on that. I love
32:13
Speaker 4: watching them and Bailey and Risa and Zoe and Aliciat
32:18
Speaker 4: like all, Like I just we got so lucky with
32:21
Speaker 4: the girls on our season, Like I really like, we
32:25
Speaker 4: got so so lucky. There's we got so many good ones.
32:28
Speaker 2: Would there have been anybody from Vaccination that you would
32:30
Speaker 2: have put on your list if you had gone to Paradise?
32:33
Speaker 3: I don't think.
32:34
Speaker 4: So That's why I didn't go, because I was just
32:36
Speaker 4: kind of okay, like who am I going? Like that
32:40
Speaker 4: was like the conversations that I was having is I
32:41
Speaker 4: was like, not to be mean, but like, I like,
32:45
Speaker 4: there's not anyone that I'm like, ooh, like I really hope,
32:48
Speaker 4: you know, what I mean.
32:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well so you're open to it for the future. Sure, yeah, okay, cool,
32:56
Speaker 2: Just wasn't a good time?
32:58
Speaker 3: All right?
32:58
Speaker 2: Good? Well, I hope that this cass is full of
33:01
Speaker 2: cute guys that you would like to date.
33:03
Speaker 3: In Paradise the other day. No, they look great.
33:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, some of them are from Utah.
33:08
Speaker 3: I know. I saw there's actually a few.
33:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense. I'm glad that they did that.
33:13
Speaker 2: But then you could probably just meet those guys whenever
33:16
Speaker 2: they go home.
33:17
Speaker 3: No, I think I have actually a few.
33:20
Speaker 2: Oh really just before they went to go film.
33:23
Speaker 4: No. No, like just from living in Utah for like
33:26
Speaker 4: forever and ever and ever.
33:28
Speaker 3: It's just small. It's a small Wow, Ashley, you should come.
33:31
Speaker 3: You have to come out one time.
33:32
Speaker 2: I've been to Salt like once, and I've been to
33:36
Speaker 2: which the other place an hour away, the bougie place
33:39
Speaker 2: Parks Yeah, yeah, park City. Both are so nice. Yep,
33:43
Speaker 2: I love it. Yeah, so nice. The air is like
33:46
Speaker 2: crisp there. It just like tastes like fresh.
33:49
Speaker 3: Is It's like it's cold and it's sharp. No. Yeah,
33:52
Speaker 3: but it's it's a small, small place.
33:55
Speaker 2: Do you have any thoughts of these guys that you see.
34:00
Speaker 3: There's a lot of cuties. Yeah. No, I'm excited for her.
34:03
Speaker 4: I think, like I'm excited for her to kind of
34:06
Speaker 4: like dip her toe in a fresh pool of different people,
34:09
Speaker 4: kind of like outside of Utah, and I think.
34:14
Speaker 3: It'll be good. Like I'm I'm so excited to watch.
34:18
Speaker 2: So you're saying that you like feel like some of
34:20
Speaker 2: those faces are familiar on the list, And my producer
34:23
Speaker 2: and I were just speculating the other day that she
34:27
Speaker 2: is going to have met some of these guys in
34:29
Speaker 2: the past because of the small town vibes either.
34:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think for sure.
34:34
Speaker 4: I think there's no way with how many people are
34:36
Speaker 4: from Utah in that cast that her path that their
34:39
Speaker 4: paths haven't crossed before filming.
34:41
Speaker 3: I could be wrong. I don't know.
34:43
Speaker 4: And like that's on casting to see, you know, how
34:46
Speaker 4: many mutuals they have and stuff like that.
34:47
Speaker 3: So we'll see how good at digging they.
34:49
Speaker 4: Did, because I think they like everybody to be pretty separate,
34:52
Speaker 4: you know, like that it's like a pretty fresh thing.
34:55
Speaker 3: So I'll be I'll be interested to see if she
34:59
Speaker 3: knows any of them.
35:00
Speaker 2: So you had a really cool ad over the summer
35:05
Speaker 2: where your teas that you were getting married, but you
35:08
Speaker 2: were actually walking down the frozen food aisle. Loved it.
35:11
Speaker 2: It was perfectly teased. It really did make oh quite
35:16
Speaker 2: many headlines. What are you working on these days? What
35:20
Speaker 2: does life look like today?
35:22
Speaker 4: Well?
35:22
Speaker 3: I got banks, that's new.
35:24
Speaker 2: Cool curtain banks.
35:25
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I got a house. I love that.
35:28
Speaker 2: Oh wow, so great.
35:30
Speaker 4: Yeah, my life is pretty much the same as when
35:33
Speaker 4: I loft, which I love. Like I have a good life,
35:35
Speaker 4: but it's not I don't have a ton of new.
35:38
Speaker 2: What are you doing for work? Is it mostly influencing.
35:42
Speaker 3: Influencing right now?
35:43
Speaker 4: Yep, I'm winding down on venture capital and just staying
35:49
Speaker 4: open minded to see.
35:51
Speaker 2: All right, well, good for you. Any plans for Halloween
35:54
Speaker 2: before we let you go.
35:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my friends is hosting a night and
36:00
Speaker 4: we're being Disney princesses.
36:01
Speaker 3: So we're dressing up on so cute.
36:04
Speaker 2: Who are you going to be?
36:06
Speaker 3: Jasmine?
36:07
Speaker 2: Yay, the best one there is. Yeah, I have been
36:13
Speaker 2: Jasmine for I can't even tell you how many halloweens.
36:17
Speaker 3: No, you're literally you are Jasmine.
36:20
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that you are too, So somehow we
36:23
Speaker 2: can both be really good Jasmins.
36:26
Speaker 4: The Brunette like Olive Complexion, girl Small, She's from.
36:32
Speaker 2: Okay, well Lytia. It has been such a pleasure talking
36:35
Speaker 2: to you, and I can't wait to hopefully see you
36:39
Speaker 2: on our TVs at some other point because you're You're
36:43
Speaker 2: great and wow. I regardless of how you find it,
36:46
Speaker 2: I just want you to find love because you are
36:49
Speaker 2: some wifey material.
36:51
Speaker 3: Thank you.
36:52
Speaker 4: I just want to say to you and Ben for
36:54
Speaker 4: having me on, but also because your podcast was one
36:58
Speaker 4: of the few podcasts that was a safe space for
37:00
Speaker 4: me to listen to in terms of recaph, so I
37:03
Speaker 4: just want to say, like, as like someone that was
37:06
Speaker 4: on the show, it's I love your takes. I'm sad,
37:10
Speaker 4: I love I listened to like I still listen to it,
37:13
Speaker 4: and I love you guys, and I'm so grateful for
37:15
Speaker 4: you guys.
37:16
Speaker 2: Latia, thank you. That's so sweet. The fact that you
37:20
Speaker 2: even listened to a podcast while it was airing is scary.
37:24
Speaker 4: It no, it was scary, but I like, consistently every
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Speaker 4: week it was a safe space and I loved hearing
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Speaker 4: your guys' opinions because you were always so kind and
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Speaker 4: like gave me so much grace and everyone so much grace.
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Speaker 4: So I just like, it's not easy in the reality
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Speaker 4: TV space to look at people as people, and you
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Speaker 4: both do such a good job.
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Speaker 2: So thank you so much, thank you so much. Ah
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Speaker 2: all right, well guys, until next time, I've been Ashley
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Speaker 2: and that has been Latia gar Bye.
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Speaker 3: Yeah,