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The Righteous Gemstones: A Deep Dive into Faith and Folly · Systematic Geekology

1:32
Have
1:33
you
1:33
ever
1:33
owned
1:34
a
1:34
gold
1:34
plated
1:35
Bible,
1:36
been
1:36
at
1:37
a
1:37
wave
1:37
pool
1:37
baptism,
1:38
or
1:39
won
1:39
the
1:39
top
1:40
Christ
1:40
following
1:40
man
1:41
award?
1:42
If
1:42
you
1:42
have,
1:43
you
1:44
might
1:44
be
1:44
one
1:45
of
1:45
the
1:45
Righteous
1:45
Gemstones.
1:46
If
1:46
not,
1:47
maybe
1:47
you're
1:47
like
1:47
us
1:47
and
1:48
just
1:48
really
1:48
enjoy
1:49
the
1:50
TV
1:50
series
1:51
from
1:51
hbo.
1:51
Max.
1:52
Righteous
1:52
Gemstones.
1:53
That's
1:53
what
1:53
we're
1:53
gonna
1:53
be
1:53
talking
1:53
about
1:53
today.
1:54
We're
1:54
gonna
1:54
have
1:54
a
1:54
lot
1:54
of
1:55
fun
1:55
with
1:55
this
1:55
one.
1:56
It's
1:56
been
1:56
a
1:57
long
1:57
time
1:57
coming.
1:58
Whenever
1:58
your
1:59
fandoms
1:59
directly
2:00
criticize
2:01
your
2:01
faith,
2:01
you're
2:01
like,
2:01
well,
2:02
that's
2:02
pretty
2:02
much
2:02
what
2:03
the
2:03
show's
2:03
about
2:04
and
2:04
that's
2:04
pretty
2:04
much
2:05
what
2:05
our
2:05
podcast
2:06
wants
2:06
to
2:06
talk
2:06
about.
2:07
So
2:07
here
2:07
we
2:07
go.
2:07
The
2:08
perfect
2:08
match.
2:09
We
2:10
might
2:10
just
2:10
rename
2:10
this
2:10
to
2:11
the
2:11
Righteous
2:11
Gemstones
2:12
Podcast.
2:12
We
2:13
want,
2:13
but
2:13
we
2:14
might
2:14
get
2:14
all
2:14
golden
2:15
mics
2:15
if
2:15
you
2:15
guys
2:15
give
2:16
enough
2:16
on
2:16
Patreon.
2:17
So
2:17
consider.
2:18
Consider
2:18
that.
2:20
And
2:20
white
2:20
wigs.
2:21
Oh,
2:21
man,
2:21
I
2:21
can't
2:22
wait
2:22
for
2:22
this
2:22
episode.
2:22
We're
2:23
gonna
2:23
have
2:23
a
2:23
lot
2:23
of
2:23
fun.
2:23
I
2:24
am
2:24
Joshua
2:25
Noel.
2:26
I
2:26
put
2:27
Labradorite
2:28
as
2:28
my.
2:28
My
2:29
ge.
2:29
That's
2:30
my
2:30
subtitle
2:30
today
2:31
because
2:31
it's
2:31
one
2:32
of
2:32
the
2:32
cheapest
2:32
ones
2:32
that
2:32
still
2:33
looks
2:33
good.
2:34
I
2:34
am
2:35
here,
2:36
of
2:36
course,
2:36
with
2:36
our
2:37
fellow
2:37
geekologist,
2:38
the
2:39
one
2:39
who
2:39
really
2:39
started
2:39
it
2:40
all.
2:40
If
2:40
you
2:41
dig
2:41
into
2:42
the
2:42
lore
2:42
of
2:42
systematic
2:43
ecology,
2:44
you
2:44
want
2:44
to
2:45
dig
2:45
a
2:45
little
2:45
deeper
2:45
as
2:45
a
2:45
keyologist,
2:46
you'll
2:46
know
2:47
more
2:47
about
2:47
Will
2:47
Rose.
2:49
Thank
2:49
you
2:49
for
2:49
joining
2:49
us,
2:50
Pastor
2:50
Will.
2:51
What
2:52
a
2:52
fun
2:52
episode
2:52
for
2:53
a
2:53
pastor
2:53
to
2:53
be.
2:54
Oh,
2:54
I
2:54
can't
2:55
wait.
2:55
I
2:55
can't
2:55
wait.
2:56
My
2:57
pastor
2:57
nonetheless.
2:58
That's
2:59
right.
2:59
And
2:59
I
2:59
claim,
3:00
even
3:00
though
3:01
my
3:02
voice
3:02
isn't
3:02
very
3:03
righteous
3:03
right
3:03
now,
3:03
I
3:04
will
3:04
say
3:05
that
3:05
I
3:05
feel
3:05
both
3:06
righteous
3:06
and
3:06
sinner,
3:07
as
3:08
Lutherans
3:08
like
3:08
to
3:08
embrace
3:09
the
3:09
both
3:09
end
3:09
of
3:10
saint
3:10
and
3:10
sinner
3:10
at
3:11
the
3:11
same
3:11
time.
3:12
I'm
3:12
both
3:12
righteous
3:13
and
3:13
sinner
3:14
at
3:15
the
3:15
same
3:15
time.
3:16
See,
3:16
I
3:16
thought
3:16
you
3:16
were
3:17
going
3:17
to
3:17
tell
3:17
us
3:17
that
3:17
you
3:17
were
3:18
shouting
3:18
in
3:18
tongues
3:19
and
3:19
lost
3:19
your
3:19
voice
3:20
as
3:20
you
3:20
threw
3:20
people
3:20
into
3:21
a
3:21
wave
3:21
pool
3:21
in
3:22
a
3:22
spectacle.
3:23
Spectacle
3:24
baptism,
3:25
you
3:25
know.
3:25
Yeah,
3:26
that
3:27
sounds
3:27
Lutheran.
3:28
That's
3:29
not
3:29
Lutheran
3:29
at
3:29
all.
3:30
We
3:31
don't
3:31
even
3:31
do
3:31
full
3:31
immersion
3:32
baptism.
3:32
Right?
3:32
As
3:33
a
3:33
surfer
3:34
who
3:34
likes
3:35
waves,
3:35
I
3:35
don't
3:35
mind
3:36
doing
3:37
a
3:37
baptism
3:37
in
3:37
a
3:37
wave
3:38
pool.
3:38
I
3:38
might
3:38
just
3:39
ignore
3:39
a
3:40
person
3:40
being
3:40
baptized
3:40
and
3:40
catch
3:41
a
3:41
wave,
3:41
but
3:41
who
3:41
knows?
3:42
That's
3:42
fine.
3:43
Also
3:44
here
3:44
with
3:44
the
3:44
one,
3:45
the
3:45
only,
3:46
Evan
3:46
Garcia.
3:47
Where's
3:48
my
3:48
payday?
3:49
How's
3:49
it
3:49
going?
3:49
Where
3:49
is
3:50
my
3:50
payday?
3:51
That's
3:51
how
3:51
I
3:51
feel
3:51
too.
3:52
Yeah,
3:53
that's
3:53
a
3:53
good
3:54
stuff.
3:54
Good
3:54
stuff.
3:55
Same
3:56
with
3:56
my
3:56
voice.
3:56
It's
3:57
not
3:57
very
3:57
righteous
3:57
today.
3:58
Sorry
3:58
about
3:58
that,
3:58
guys,
3:59
but
4:00
we'll
4:00
be
4:00
getting
4:00
into
4:01
some
4:02
righteous
4:05
foolery
4:05
here
4:05
with.
4:07
With
4:07
this
4:08
stuff.
4:08
Can't
4:08
wait
4:09
to
4:09
talk
4:09
about
4:09
it.
4:09
See,
4:10
y'
4:10
all
4:10
plan
4:10
on
4:11
being
4:11
righteous.
4:11
I
4:11
plan
4:12
on
4:12
getting
4:12
indignant.
4:13
I
4:13
was
4:13
about
4:13
to
4:13
start
4:14
quoting
4:14
a
4:15
really
4:15
cheesy
4:15
Christian
4:15
song.
4:17
I
4:17
know
4:17
what
4:17
song
4:17
you're
4:18
gonna
4:18
go.
4:18
You
4:18
should
4:18
have
4:18
kept
4:19
going.
4:19
You
4:20
should
4:20
have
4:20
kept
4:20
going.
4:23
That's
4:23
so
4:23
funny.
4:24
Yeah.
4:24
Yeah,
4:25
man.
4:26
Oh,
4:26
and
4:26
of
4:26
course,
4:27
we
4:27
are
4:27
also
4:27
here
4:27
with
4:27
the
4:28
one,
4:28
the
4:28
only
4:29
Kevin
4:29
Schaefer,
4:30
the
4:31
only
4:31
one
4:31
to
4:31
put
4:32
a
4:32
vote
4:32
in
4:32
for
4:32
Cardinal
4:33
Baby
4:33
Billy
4:34
to
4:34
become
4:34
Pope.
4:34
How's
4:35
it
4:35
going,
4:35
Kevin?
4:36
I
4:36
think
4:36
that.
4:36
Wouldn't
4:37
that
4:37
be
4:37
awesome?
4:37
I
4:38
mean,
4:38
no
4:38
diss
4:38
to
4:38
the
4:39
newly
4:39
elected
4:40
Pope,
4:40
but
4:40
also,
4:41
no.
4:41
This
4:42
was
4:42
actually.
4:42
Will
4:43
sent
4:43
me
4:43
a
4:43
reel
4:44
about
4:44
this
4:44
where
4:45
it
4:45
was
4:45
like
4:46
a
4:46
meme
4:46
about
4:47
Baby
4:47
Billy
4:47
getting
4:48
elected
4:48
Pope
4:48
and
4:49
the
4:49
whole
4:50
world
4:50
is
4:50
cheering.
4:51
The
4:52
amount
4:52
of,
4:52
like,
4:52
Baby
4:53
Billy
4:53
Instagram
4:54
reels
4:54
I'm
4:54
getting
4:54
in
4:54
my
4:55
feed
4:55
right
4:55
now
4:55
makes
4:56
me
4:56
really
4:56
happy.
4:57
Because
4:57
as
4:57
soon
4:57
as
4:58
you
4:58
like
4:58
one,
4:58
the
4:59
algorithm
4:59
sends
5:00
you
5:00
more.
5:01
And
5:01
I
5:01
love
5:01
that
5:02
that
5:02
character
5:03
is
5:03
becoming
5:03
more
5:03
and
5:04
more
5:04
popular
5:04
in
5:04
pop
5:04
culture
5:05
now.
5:05
Yeah.
5:06
Yeah,
5:06
man.
5:07
Yeah.
5:07
Speaking
5:07
of
5:07
the
5:08
reels,
5:08
we
5:08
like
5:09
that
5:09
we
5:09
keep
5:09
getting
5:10
fed
5:10
in
5:10
our
5:10
algorithms.
5:11
If
5:12
you
5:12
guys
5:12
rate
5:12
and
5:12
review
5:13
or
5:13
comment
5:14
on
5:14
our
5:15
show
5:15
for
5:16
Apple
5:16
Podcasts
5:17
or
5:17
Spotify,
5:17
it'll
5:17
put
5:17
it
5:18
in
5:18
other
5:18
people's
5:18
algorithms.
5:19
Or
5:19
even
5:20
better,
5:20
if
5:20
you
5:21
review
5:21
our
5:21
show
5:22
on
5:22
Podchaser
5:22
or
5:22
GoodPods,
5:23
that
5:23
puts
5:24
it
5:24
in,
5:24
like,
5:24
Google
5:24
Search
5:25
and
5:25
those
5:25
kind
5:25
of
5:25
other
5:25
search
5:26
algorithms.
5:26
And
5:27
I'll
5:27
help
5:27
other
5:27
people
5:27
find
5:28
our
5:28
show,
5:28
which
5:28
we'll
5:29
be
5:29
really
5:30
grateful
5:30
for,
5:30
as
5:30
we're
5:31
probably
5:31
about
5:31
to
5:31
get
5:31
a
5:33
super
5:35
borderline
5:35
sacrilege,
5:36
probably
5:37
this
5:37
episode,
5:37
because
5:38
it's
5:38
hard
5:38
to
5:38
talk
5:38
about
5:39
the
5:39
show
5:39
without
5:40
getting
5:40
here.
5:41
But
5:41
since
5:42
we
5:42
brought
5:42
up
5:42
the
5:42
Pope,
5:42
I
5:43
do
5:43
want
5:43
to
5:43
mention
5:43
my
5:43
other
5:43
podcast,
5:44
the
5:44
Whole
5:44
Church
5:44
Podcast.
5:45
I
5:46
haven't
5:46
recorded
5:46
it
5:46
yet.
5:46
By
5:47
the
5:47
time
5:47
this
5:47
releases,
5:47
it's
5:47
probably
5:48
already
5:48
out.
5:49
I
5:49
am
5:49
doing
5:49
an
5:50
episode
5:50
with
5:51
Professor
5:51
Chris
5:52
Moreland,
5:52
who
5:53
is
5:54
a
5:54
devout
5:54
Catholic
5:55
who
5:55
knows
5:55
a
5:55
lot
5:55
about
5:55
all
5:56
this
5:56
stuff,
5:56
and
5:56
we're
5:56
going
5:56
to
5:56
be
5:56
talking
5:57
to
5:57
him
5:57
some
5:57
about
5:57
the
5:57
new
5:58
Pope,
5:58
as
5:58
well
5:58
as
5:58
Pope
5:59
Francis
5:59
legacy
6:00
and
6:00
that
6:00
kind
6:00
of
6:01
stuff.
6:01
So
6:01
if
6:01
you
6:01
guys
6:01
want
6:01
to
6:01
learn
6:02
more
6:02
about
6:02
real
6:03
popes,
6:03
you
6:03
can
6:04
go
6:04
over
6:04
there.
6:04
But
6:04
if
6:04
you
6:04
want
6:04
to
6:04
hear
6:05
more
6:05
about
6:05
Baby
6:06
Billy,
6:07
stay
6:07
right
6:07
here.
6:07
Stay
6:08
right
6:08
here,
6:09
man.
6:09
What
6:10
I've
6:10
been
6:10
geeking
6:10
out
6:10
on,
6:11
though,
6:12
first,
6:12
I
6:12
gotta
6:13
say
6:13
again
6:13
to
6:13
the
6:13
Instagram
6:13
reels,
6:14
man.
6:15
Since
6:15
I
6:15
started
6:15
liking
6:16
and
6:16
be
6:16
more
6:17
open
6:17
about
6:17
Kingdom
6:17
Hearts,
6:18
like,
6:18
most
6:18
of
6:18
mine
6:18
are
6:19
Kingdom
6:19
Hearts
6:19
now.
6:21
My
6:21
favorite
6:21
the
6:21
other
6:21
day,
6:22
I
6:22
Have
6:22
a
6:22
meme.
6:22
And
6:23
it's
6:23
from
6:23
like
6:23
the
6:23
second
6:24
game.
6:25
Because
6:25
you
6:25
know
6:25
how
6:25
games
6:25
do,
6:26
like,
6:26
they
6:26
set
6:26
stuff
6:26
up
6:26
where
6:26
you
6:27
have
6:27
to
6:27
do
6:27
like
6:27
a
6:27
little
6:27
side
6:27
mission
6:28
and
6:28
we
6:28
need
6:28
to
6:29
do
6:29
side
6:29
missions
6:29
to
6:29
get
6:30
money.
6:30
And
6:30
you're
6:30
playing
6:31
as
6:31
like
6:32
middle
6:32
schoolers,
6:33
I
6:33
guess
6:34
they're
6:34
like,
6:35
wait
6:35
a
6:35
minute,
6:35
we
6:35
forgot
6:36
we're
6:36
broke.
6:37
I
6:38
think
6:38
that
6:39
single
6:39
scene
6:40
as
6:40
a
6:40
meme,
6:40
this
6:41
might
6:41
be
6:41
my
6:41
favorite
6:42
thing
6:42
because
6:43
I
6:43
just
6:43
need
6:44
to
6:44
print
6:44
it
6:44
out
6:44
and
6:44
put
6:45
it
6:45
on
6:45
my
6:45
window.
6:47
But
6:48
I'm
6:48
sure
6:48
a
6:49
geek
6:49
out
6:49
moment.
6:50
And
6:50
what
6:50
I'm
6:50
actually
6:50
geeking
6:51
out
6:51
on
6:52
continuously,
6:53
I'm
6:53
cheating
6:53
because
6:54
this
6:54
is
6:54
my
6:54
one
6:54
week
6:55
off
6:55
between
6:56
spring
6:56
semester
6:57
and
6:57
summer
6:57
semester.
6:57
So
6:57
I'm
6:58
geeking
6:58
out
6:58
on
6:58
a
6:58
lot.
7:01
My
7:01
geek
7:01
moment.
7:01
I
7:01
got
7:02
to
7:02
go
7:02
to
7:02
the
7:02
beach
7:03
and
7:03
I
7:03
was
7:03
having
7:03
fun.
7:04
And
7:04
I
7:04
always
7:04
wake
7:04
up
7:05
before
7:05
everybody
7:05
else,
7:06
for
7:06
the
7:06
most
7:07
part,
7:07
unless
7:07
I'm
7:07
with
7:07
specific
7:08
groups
7:08
of
7:08
people.
7:09
And
7:09
I'm
7:09
up
7:09
early.
7:10
We
7:10
have
7:10
a
7:10
little
7:10
balcony
7:10
that
7:11
oversees
7:11
the
7:11
beach.
7:11
I
7:11
go
7:11
out
7:12
there
7:12
with
7:12
my
7:12
Steam
7:13
deck
7:13
and
7:13
I'm
7:13
like,
7:14
I'm
7:14
gonna
7:14
play.
7:14
I've
7:15
been
7:15
going
7:15
back
7:15
through
7:15
Ratchet
7:16
Clank
7:16
Rift
7:16
Apart
7:16
to
7:17
try
7:17
to
7:17
get
7:17
100%
7:18
on
7:18
everything.
7:18
So
7:18
I
7:19
had
7:19
to
7:19
get
7:19
all
7:19
the
7:19
collectibles
7:19
and
7:20
stuff.
7:20
And
7:20
I
7:20
went
7:20
to
7:20
the
7:20
pirate
7:21
level
7:21
while
7:22
I'm
7:22
sitting
7:22
here
7:22
on
7:23
the
7:23
beach
7:24
to
7:24
find
7:24
the
7:24
golden
7:25
bolt.
7:26
And
7:26
that
7:27
whole
7:27
experience
7:27
was
7:28
great.
7:28
Just
7:28
blowing
7:29
up
7:29
robot
7:29
pirates
7:30
looking
7:30
for
7:30
a
7:30
golden
7:31
boat,
7:31
sitting
7:32
there
7:32
with
7:32
the
7:32
ocean
7:33
waves
7:33
in
7:33
the
7:33
background.
7:33
Like,
7:34
this
7:34
is.
7:36
Yeah,
7:36
yeah,
7:37
it
7:37
was
7:37
great.
7:38
But
7:38
what
7:39
I'm
7:39
continually
7:40
to
7:40
geek
7:41
out
7:41
on.
7:41
I
7:41
mentioned
7:41
a
7:42
lot
7:42
last
7:42
year
7:42
about
7:42
this
7:43
book.
7:43
I
7:43
really
7:43
liked
7:43
the
7:43
Kamagawa
7:44
Food
7:44
Detectives.
7:44
Will
7:45
was
7:45
there
7:45
when
7:45
I
7:45
found
7:45
it.
7:47
I
7:47
discovered
7:47
that
7:47
that
7:48
was
7:48
part
7:48
one
7:48
and
7:49
that
7:49
there's
7:49
two
7:49
more
7:49
parts.
7:50
So
7:51
I'm
7:51
going
7:51
to
7:51
be
7:51
finishing
7:52
up
7:52
that
7:52
series
7:52
soon
7:53
because
7:53
it's
7:54
phenomenal.
7:55
Really
7:55
great
7:55
Japanese
7:56
literature
7:56
on
7:58
people
7:58
looking
7:58
for
7:59
old
7:59
family
7:59
recipes
8:00
or
8:00
something.
8:00
And
8:00
they
8:00
can't
8:00
figure
8:01
out
8:01
exactly
8:01
how
8:01
it
8:01
happened.
8:02
And
8:02
this
8:02
detective
8:03
goes
8:03
and
8:04
finds
8:05
old
8:05
family
8:05
recipes
8:06
and
8:06
what
8:06
made
8:06
them
8:07
taste
8:07
the
8:07
way
8:07
they
8:07
did.
8:07
And
8:08
it's
8:09
especially
8:09
if
8:09
you
8:09
like
8:10
food.
8:10
Phenomenal
8:11
read.
8:12
I
8:12
want
8:12
to
8:12
get
8:12
Mark
8:12
Flower
8:13
to
8:13
talk
8:13
to
8:13
me
8:13
with
8:14
it
8:14
at
8:14
some
8:15
point.
8:15
But
8:16
that's
8:16
a
8:16
thought
8:17
for
8:17
later
8:17
times.
8:17
Will,
8:18
what
8:18
have
8:18
you
8:18
been
8:18
geeking
8:18
out
8:19
on?
8:19
Man,
8:20
I'm
8:20
the
8:20
same.
8:20
It's
8:21
summertime,
8:22
so
8:22
the
8:22
water
8:22
is
8:23
ocean.
8:24
Water
8:24
has
8:24
gotten
8:25
warmer.
8:25
I
8:25
no
8:25
longer
8:25
have
8:26
to
8:26
wear
8:26
a
8:26
wetsuit.
8:26
So
8:26
I've
8:27
been
8:27
doing
8:27
a
8:27
lot
8:27
of
8:27
surfing.
8:28
Hopefully
8:29
by
8:29
the
8:29
time
8:29
time
8:30
you
8:30
listen
8:31
to
8:31
this
8:31
episode,
8:32
I
8:32
am
8:33
either
8:33
flying
8:33
or
8:33
In
8:34
Hawaii
8:34
or
8:34
back
8:34
from
8:35
Hawaii,
8:36
taking
8:36
our
8:36
family
8:36
vacation.
8:37
Taking
8:37
my
8:37
mom,
8:38
maybe
8:38
catch
8:38
a
8:38
wave.
8:39
So
8:39
I'm
8:39
geeking
8:40
out
8:40
on
8:40
surfing
8:41
World
8:41
Surf
8:42
League.
8:42
The.
8:42
The
8:42
pro
8:43
surf
8:43
league
8:43
is.
8:44
Is
8:44
in
8:44
full
8:44
swing.
8:45
Been
8:45
watching
8:46
that.
8:46
Getting
8:46
hyped.
8:47
So.
8:47
So,
8:47
yeah,
8:48
everything.
8:48
Ocean
8:49
beach,
8:49
summer
8:50
surfing.
8:51
That's
8:51
where
8:51
I
8:51
am
8:52
right
8:52
now.
8:52
Sweet.
8:53
Sweet.
8:53
You
8:53
plan
8:54
on
8:54
playing
8:54
any
8:54
ratcheting
8:54
clank,
8:55
getting
8:55
gold
8:55
bolts
8:56
or
8:56
anything?
8:57
No,
8:57
not
8:58
at
8:58
all.
8:59
My
8:59
favorite.
9:00
Guys,
9:00
I
9:01
hate
9:01
to
9:01
keep
9:01
doing
9:01
this,
9:01
but
9:02
I
9:02
was
9:03
going
9:03
through
9:03
the
9:03
level
9:03
and
9:04
I
9:04
didn't
9:04
notice
9:04
that
9:04
they
9:05
have
9:05
a
9:05
theme
9:05
park
9:06
there.
9:06
Ratchet
9:07
and
9:07
Clink
9:07
is
9:07
just
9:07
all
9:08
satire.
9:08
That's
9:08
all
9:08
it
9:08
is.
9:08
And
9:09
they
9:09
just
9:09
decided
9:09
to
9:10
basically
9:11
make
9:11
a
9:11
mock
9:12
version
9:12
of
9:12
the
9:12
Pirates
9:12
of
9:12
the
9:13
Caribbean
9:13
ride
9:13
in
9:13
Disney
9:13
World
9:14
in
9:14
the
9:14
middle
9:14
of
9:14
this
9:14
video
9:14
game
9:15
for
9:15
absolutely
9:16
no
9:16
reason.
9:17
And
9:17
you
9:17
go
9:17
by,
9:18
and
9:19
there's
9:19
the
9:19
little
9:20
robots
9:20
behind
9:21
the
9:21
prison
9:21
gate
9:22
trying
9:22
to
9:22
get
9:22
a
9:22
robot
9:23
dog
9:23
to
9:23
give
9:23
me
9:24
the
9:24
key.
9:24
And
9:24
I'm
9:24
like,
9:25
this
9:25
is
9:25
great.
9:26
This
9:26
game
9:27
understands
9:28
my
9:28
soul.
9:30
When.
9:31
When
9:31
there
9:31
are
9:31
things
9:32
that
9:32
makes
9:32
Joshua
9:33
giggle,
9:35
it's
9:35
contagious.
9:35
I
9:36
giggle
9:36
too.
9:36
I
9:36
have
9:37
no
9:37
idea
9:37
most
9:38
of
9:38
the
9:38
time
9:38
what
9:38
he's
9:38
talking
9:39
about,
9:40
but
9:40
if
9:40
it
9:41
makes
9:41
him
9:41
happy
9:41
and
9:41
brings
9:42
him
9:42
joy
9:42
and
9:42
he
9:42
giggles,
9:44
I
9:44
giggle
9:44
too.
9:44
I
9:45
almost
9:45
did
9:45
the
9:45
screen
9:46
share
9:46
thing
9:46
where
9:46
I
9:46
could
9:47
do,
9:47
like,
9:47
the
9:47
whole
9:47
video
9:47
of
9:47
my
9:48
last
9:48
five
9:48
minute
9:48
playing
9:49
just
9:49
so
9:49
I
9:49
could
9:49
send
9:50
it
9:50
to
9:50
you
9:51
guys
9:51
on
9:51
Discord.
9:51
And
9:52
I
9:52
might.
9:52
I
9:52
might
9:52
go
9:52
do
9:52
it
9:52
again.
9:53
I
9:53
might
9:54
go
9:54
replay
9:54
that
9:54
just
9:54
so
9:54
I
9:55
can
9:55
send
9:55
it.
9:56
Kevin,
9:56
man,
9:56
what
9:56
you
9:57
been
9:57
geeking
9:57
out
9:57
on?
9:58
So
9:59
I'm
9:59
rewatching
9:59
all
10:00
of
10:00
the
10:00
Mission
10:00
Impossible
10:01
movies
10:01
in
10:01
light
10:02
of
10:02
the
10:02
Final
10:03
Reckoning
10:03
coming
10:03
out
10:03
this
10:04
weekend,
10:04
which
10:05
I'm
10:05
very
10:05
excited
10:05
for.
10:05
I
10:06
mean,
10:06
it's.
10:06
It's
10:06
one
10:07
of
10:07
the
10:07
most,
10:07
like,
10:07
ridiculously
10:08
plotted
10:09
franchises
10:10
out
10:10
there.
10:11
I
10:11
just
10:12
go
10:12
for,
10:13
okay,
10:13
what
10:13
crazy
10:14
stunt
10:14
is
10:14
Tom
10:15
Cruise
10:15
gonna
10:15
do
10:15
in
10:15
this
10:15
one?
10:16
And
10:16
that's
10:17
not
10:17
to
10:17
say
10:17
there
10:17
isn't
10:18
solid
10:18
writing
10:19
in
10:19
some
10:20
of
10:20
them,
10:20
not
10:20
all
10:20
of
10:20
them,
10:21
but
10:21
there
10:21
are
10:21
some
10:21
really
10:22
good
10:22
character
10:22
moments.
10:22
And
10:24
it's.
10:24
I
10:24
mean,
10:24
Fallout
10:25
is
10:25
still
10:25
my
10:25
favorite,
10:26
and
10:26
I
10:26
think
10:26
it's
10:27
pretty
10:27
universally
10:27
loved
10:28
as,
10:28
like,
10:28
the
10:28
number
10:29
one
10:29
for
10:30
most
10:30
people.
10:31
But.
10:32
But
10:32
yeah,
10:32
it
10:32
has,
10:33
you
10:33
know,
10:33
some
10:33
highs
10:34
and
10:34
some
10:34
lows,
10:35
but
10:35
it
10:35
is
10:35
a
10:36
consistently
10:36
enjoyable,
10:37
over
10:38
the
10:38
top
10:38
action
10:39
movie
10:39
franchise,
10:39
and
10:40
I'm
10:40
very
10:40
much
10:41
looking
10:41
forward
10:41
to
10:41
seeing
10:41
the
10:42
final
10:42
one
10:42
on
10:42
screen.
10:43
And
10:43
also,
10:43
Josh,
10:44
I
10:44
know
10:44
I
10:44
mentioned
10:44
this
10:45
in
10:45
a
10:45
previous
10:45
episode,
10:46
but
10:46
I
10:46
was
10:46
wondering
10:46
if
10:47
you
10:47
knew
10:47
about
10:47
it
10:47
yet.
10:47
But
10:47
there's
10:48
a
10:48
How
10:48
I
10:48
Met
10:48
yout
10:48
Mother
10:49
rewatch
10:49
podcast
10:50
that
10:50
I'm
10:50
Listening
10:51
to
10:51
every
10:51
week
10:52
hosted
10:53
by
10:53
Josh
10:53
Radner
10:54
and
10:54
then
10:54
Craig
10:55
Thomas,
10:55
the
10:55
co
10:55
creator.
10:56
So
10:57
I
10:57
highly
10:57
recommend.
10:58
Because
10:58
I
10:58
know
10:58
you're
10:59
a
10:59
huge
10:59
fan
10:59
of
10:59
the
10:59
show
10:59
as
11:00
well.
11:00
Yeah,
11:00
yeah.
11:01
I
11:01
saw
11:01
that.
11:01
I
11:02
was
11:02
struggling
11:02
with
11:02
whether
11:03
or
11:03
not
11:03
I
11:03
want
11:03
to,
11:04
because
11:04
I.
11:05
I
11:05
love
11:05
Scrubs
11:06
and
11:06
I
11:06
loved
11:06
the
11:07
rewatch
11:07
for
11:07
a
11:07
while,
11:07
but
11:07
then
11:08
there
11:08
were
11:08
some
11:08
stuff
11:08
they
11:08
revealed
11:09
about
11:09
some
11:09
episodes
11:09
that
11:09
kind
11:10
of
11:10
ruined
11:10
the
11:10
episodes
11:10
for
11:11
me
11:11
that
11:11
I'm
11:11
like,
11:12
I
11:12
don't
11:12
know,
11:12
Do
11:13
I
11:13
want
11:13
to
11:13
just
11:13
let
11:13
it
11:13
stand
11:13
on?
11:14
Which
11:14
is
11:14
also
11:14
how
11:14
I
11:15
feel
11:15
about
11:15
the
11:15
show.
11:15
We're
11:15
going
11:15
to
11:15
talk
11:16
about
11:16
today,
11:16
where
11:16
I'm
11:16
like,
11:16
do
11:16
I
11:17
want
11:17
to
11:17
watch
11:17
young
11:17
gemstones,
11:18
or
11:18
do
11:19
I
11:19
think
11:19
that
11:19
this
11:19
show's
11:20
perfect
11:20
as
11:20
is
11:20
and
11:21
I
11:21
don't
11:21
want
11:21
to
11:21
risk
11:21
anything
11:22
spoiling
11:22
it.
11:22
I
11:23
don't
11:23
know.
11:23
That's
11:23
fair.
11:24
I
11:24
don't
11:24
know.
11:25
But
11:25
I'm
11:25
tempted
11:26
and
11:26
I
11:26
probably
11:26
will
11:26
end
11:27
up
11:27
watching
11:27
that,
11:27
listening
11:28
to
11:28
that.
11:28
I
11:28
just
11:29
love
11:29
how
11:29
I
11:29
make
11:29
mother
11:30
too
11:30
much.
11:30
That's
11:30
the
11:30
thing.
11:31
It's
11:31
just
11:31
really
11:31
good.
11:32
It's
11:32
more
11:32
a
11:32
celebration
11:33
than,
11:33
like,
11:34
of
11:34
the
11:34
show
11:34
and,
11:34
like,
11:35
analyzing,
11:35
like,
11:36
why
11:36
people
11:36
love
11:37
it
11:37
so
11:37
much
11:37
and
11:38
a
11:38
reflective
11:38
look.
11:39
Yeah.
11:39
Which
11:39
also,
11:41
I
11:41
don't
11:41
want
11:41
to
11:41
get
11:41
stuck
11:42
on
11:42
this.
11:42
But
11:42
also
11:43
I
11:43
might
11:43
do
11:43
it
11:44
for
11:44
the
11:44
other
11:44
reason
11:44
of
11:45
how
11:45
your
11:46
mother
11:46
gets
11:46
harder
11:46
to
11:47
watch
11:47
the
11:47
more
11:47
culture
11:48
progresses.
11:49
And
11:49
you
11:49
realize
11:49
how
11:50
some
11:50
of
11:50
those
11:50
stuff
11:51
just
11:51
was
11:51
not
11:51
okay.
11:52
Yeah.
11:52
And
11:52
it's
11:52
like,
11:53
I
11:53
still
11:53
want
11:53
to
11:53
enjoy
11:53
the
11:54
show,
11:54
so
11:54
maybe
11:54
someone
11:55
just
11:56
doing
11:56
a
11:56
little
11:56
bit
11:56
of
11:57
apologetics
11:58
would
11:58
help
11:59
me.
11:59
And
11:59
they
11:59
do
11:59
address
11:59
that.
12:00
They're
12:00
like,
12:00
we
12:01
know
12:01
some
12:01
stuff
12:02
has
12:02
not
12:02
aged
12:02
well.
12:02
And,
12:03
I
12:03
mean,
12:04
it's
12:04
a
12:04
different
12:04
time
12:05
and.
12:05
Yeah.
12:05
And
12:06
a
12:06
different
12:06
state
12:06
of
12:06
tv,
12:07
too.
12:07
Yeah.
12:07
Which
12:08
that's
12:08
true
12:08
of
12:08
most
12:08
things,
12:09
except
12:09
for
12:09
specifically
12:10
Green
12:10
Day's
12:11
American
12:11
Idiot.
12:12
That
12:12
just
12:12
gets
12:12
better
12:13
every
12:13
year
12:13
somehow.
12:14
It
12:14
gets
12:14
better
12:15
every
12:15
single
12:15
year.
12:16
Evan,
12:17
where
12:17
we
12:17
at,
12:17
man?
12:19
Good,
12:19
man.
12:19
I'm
12:19
still.
12:20
I'm
12:20
still
12:20
writing
12:20
the
12:21
high
12:21
off
12:21
of
12:21
Andor
12:22
season
12:22
two.
12:23
I'm
12:23
still
12:23
seasoned,
12:24
I'm
12:25
still
12:25
chatting
12:25
about
12:25
it
12:26
online
12:26
and
12:26
still
12:26
with
12:27
friends.
12:28
It's
12:29
pretty
12:29
busy
12:29
because
12:30
we're
12:30
down
12:30
to
12:31
the
12:31
last
12:32
a
12:32
week
12:32
or
12:32
so
12:32
of
12:33
school
12:33
for
12:33
the
12:33
kids,
12:34
so
12:35
trying
12:35
to
12:35
wrap
12:36
that
12:36
up.
12:36
And
12:41
my
12:41
podcasts
12:42
are
12:42
still
12:43
going
12:43
strong.
12:43
There's.
12:45
I
12:45
keep
12:45
getting
12:46
that
12:47
apologist
12:48
slash
12:48
Bible
12:49
scholar
12:50
Wesley
12:50
Huff
12:51
in
12:51
my
12:51
feed.
12:52
And
12:52
because
12:53
he's
12:53
making.
12:54
He's
12:54
making
12:54
waves,
12:55
and
12:55
I'm
12:55
like,
12:57
why
12:57
am
12:57
I
12:57
seeing
12:58
this?
12:58
And
12:58
then
12:59
all
12:59
of
12:59
a
13:00
sudden,
13:01
I
13:01
see
13:01
my
13:01
friend
13:02
from
13:02
when
13:02
I
13:02
was
13:03
in
13:04
high
13:04
school
13:05
commenting
13:05
on
13:05
something.
13:06
I'm
13:06
like,
13:06
oh,
13:06
wow.
13:07
So
13:07
I
13:08
kind
13:08
of
13:09
reconnected
13:09
with
13:10
a
13:10
friend
13:10
through
13:10
that,
13:11
so
13:11
that
13:11
was
13:11
kind
13:11
of
13:11
cool.
13:12
Oh,
13:12
nice.
13:13
Yeah,
13:13
ironically,
13:14
that's,
13:14
that's
13:14
actually
13:15
how
13:15
we,
13:15
we
13:15
met
13:16
Evan.
13:16
It's
13:16
because
13:16
he
13:16
commented
13:17
on
13:17
some
13:17
of
13:17
those
13:17
other
13:18
podcasts.
13:18
I
13:18
was
13:18
like,
13:18
wait
13:18
a
13:18
minute,
13:19
we're
13:19
in
13:20
relationship
13:20
with
13:20
like
13:21
some
13:21
of
13:21
these.
13:21
And
13:21
let'
13:22
to
13:22
Evan.
13:22
And
13:22
I'm
13:22
like,
13:22
actually,
13:23
I
13:23
really
13:23
like
13:23
this
13:23
guy.
13:23
And
13:24
here
13:24
we
13:24
are,
13:25
now
13:25
we're
13:25
friends.
13:25
That's
13:25
how
13:26
it
13:26
works.
13:26
I
13:26
love
13:26
it.
13:26
Thank
13:27
you.
13:27
Podcast
13:27
world
13:27
is
13:28
wild.
13:29
Speaking
13:30
of
13:30
the
13:30
podcast
13:30
world
13:30
and
13:31
Bible
13:31
scholars,
13:32
another
13:32
show
13:32
that's
13:33
going
13:33
to
13:33
be
13:33
maybe
13:34
a
13:34
limited
13:34
run,
13:35
maybe
13:35
a
13:35
seasonal
13:36
run.
13:36
We'll
13:36
see
13:36
on
13:37
our
13:37
network,
13:37
the
13:38
Amazon
13:38
Podcast
13:39
Network.
13:39
Christian,
13:40
Ashley
13:40
and
13:40
myself
13:41
are
13:41
going
13:41
to
13:41
be
13:41
going
13:41
through
13:41
a
13:42
book
13:42
about
13:43
a
13:44
divine
13:44
genocide.
13:46
Yeah,
13:48
it's
13:48
a
13:48
four
13:49
view
13:49
book.
13:49
I
13:49
don't
13:50
remember
13:50
the
13:50
title
13:50
at
13:50
the
13:50
top
13:51
of
13:51
my
13:51
head
13:51
right
13:51
now,
13:51
but
13:51
you
13:52
can
13:52
be
13:52
looking
13:52
for
13:52
it.
13:53
The
13:53
title
13:54
of
13:54
our
13:54
podcast
13:54
on
13:55
it
13:55
is
13:55
going
13:55
to
13:55
be
13:56
Turning
13:57
the
13:57
Page
13:57
on
13:58
Divine
13:59
Violence
14:00
or
14:00
Divine
14:00
Genocide.
14:01
I
14:01
haven't
14:01
decided
14:01
which
14:01
of
14:02
those
14:02
two
14:02
yet,
14:03
but
14:03
we
14:03
do
14:03
have
14:03
some
14:03
biblical
14:04
scholars
14:04
and
14:04
stuff
14:05
lined
14:05
up
14:05
to
14:05
help
14:05
us
14:06
do
14:06
our
14:06
review
14:07
of
14:07
this
14:07
book.
14:07
We're
14:07
going
14:07
to
14:07
be
14:08
going
14:08
through
14:08
chapter
14:08
at
14:08
a
14:08
time
14:09
and
14:09
it's
14:09
going
14:09
to
14:09
be
14:09
a
14:09
lot
14:10
of
14:10
fun,
14:11
so
14:11
be
14:11
on
14:11
the
14:11
lookout
14:12
for
14:12
that.
14:13
I
14:13
will.
14:14
Yeah,
14:14
I
14:15
think
14:15
it'll
14:15
be
14:15
a
14:15
good
14:15
time.
14:16
Maybe
14:16
will
14:16
jump
14:17
on
14:17
afterwards
14:17
to
14:17
be
14:17
like,
14:18
and
14:18
here's
14:18
why
14:19
this
14:19
guy
14:20
in
14:20
my
14:20
congregation,
14:20
Joshua
14:21
Noel,
14:21
is
14:21
a
14:21
heretic.
14:22
Now
14:23
we'll
14:23
see
14:24
who
14:24
knows,
14:25
who
14:25
knows
14:25
what
14:25
you'll
14:25
say.
14:26
It's
14:26
a
14:26
long
14:26
table
14:27
with
14:27
many
14:27
voices.
14:28
But
14:28
you
14:29
know,
14:29
you
14:30
have
14:30
been
14:30
known
14:30
to
14:31
be
14:31
the
14:31
one
14:32
with
14:32
the
14:32
bad
14:32
opinion.
14:32
So
14:33
we'll
14:33
see,
14:33
we'll
14:33
see
14:33
what
14:33
happens
14:34
if
14:34
that
14:34
tracks.
14:34
Yeah.
14:35
What's
14:36
fun?
14:37
From
14:37
what
14:37
I
14:38
can
14:38
tell,
14:38
and
14:38
I
14:38
haven't
14:39
got
14:39
too
14:39
much
14:39
into
14:39
the
14:39
book
14:39
now
14:40
Tremper
14:40
Longman
14:40
the
14:41
Third
14:41
is
14:41
on
14:41
there
14:41
and
14:41
he's
14:42
a
14:42
friend
14:42
of
14:42
mine
14:42
as
14:43
well
14:43
as
14:43
Pete
14:43
Enz.
14:43
For
14:44
those
14:44
who
14:44
know
14:44
Pete
14:44
N.
14:46
He
14:47
is
14:47
pretty
14:47
conservative
14:48
in
14:48
my
14:48
book,
14:48
but
14:48
I
14:49
think
14:49
he's
14:49
supposed
14:49
to
14:49
be
14:49
the
14:49
progressive
14:50
view
14:50
of
14:51
the
14:51
foreign
14:51
there.
14:52
So
14:52
I'm
14:52
like,
14:53
oh
14:53
geez,
14:53
I
14:53
might
14:54
have
14:54
an
14:54
interesting
14:54
time
14:54
getting
14:55
through
14:55
this.
14:55
We'll
14:56
see,
14:56
we'll
14:57
see.
14:58
I
14:58
know
14:58
that
14:59
view.
14:59
1
14:59
I
15:00
strongly
15:00
disagree
15:01
with.
15:01
And
15:01
if
15:01
that's
15:01
a
15:02
good
15:02
lore
15:02
for
15:02
you
15:02
guys,
15:03
be
15:03
looking
15:03
for
15:03
that
15:03
podcast
15:04
Turning
15:04
the
15:04
page
15:04
on
15:05
we'll
15:05
say
15:05
divine
15:06
violence
15:06
for
15:06
now
15:07
and
15:07
if
15:07
I
15:07
change
15:07
the
15:07
name,
15:08
you'll
15:08
know.
15:10
But
15:11
with
15:11
that,
15:12
I
15:12
do
15:12
want
15:12
to
15:12
say
15:12
if
15:13
you
15:13
want
15:13
to
15:13
help
15:13
us
15:13
get
15:13
those
15:13
golden
15:14
mics
15:14
we
15:14
talked
15:14
about
15:14
again?
15:15
You
15:15
can
15:15
support
15:15
our
15:15
show,
15:16
be
15:16
one
15:16
of
15:16
the
15:16
sponsors
15:16
on
15:17
Apple
15:17
Podcast,
15:17
Captivate
15:18
or
15:18
Patreon.
15:19
Today,
15:19
we're
15:19
going
15:19
to
15:19
shout
15:20
out
15:20
Jonathan
15:20
Augustin.
15:21
Thank
15:21
you,
15:21
Jonathan.
15:22
We
15:22
might
15:22
even
15:22
give
15:22
you
15:23
your
15:23
own
15:23
golden
15:23
mic
15:24
once
15:24
we
15:24
get
15:24
to
15:24
that.
15:24
That
15:24
like
15:25
1
15:25
million
15:25
a
15:25
dollar
15:26
a
15:26
month
15:27
patron
15:27
goal,
15:28
you
15:28
know.
15:29
And
15:30
remember,
15:30
guys,
15:30
if
15:30
you
15:30
want
15:31
your
15:31
own
15:31
shout
15:31
out,
15:31
like,
15:31
Jonathan,
15:32
you
15:33
too
15:33
can
15:33
support
15:33
our
15:33
show
15:33
for
15:33
$3
15:34
a
15:34
month
15:34
on
15:34
one
15:34
of
15:34
those
15:34
three
15:35
platforms.
15:35
Apple
15:36
Podcast,
15:36
Captivate
15:36
or
15:37
Patreon.
15:38
$3
15:38
a
15:38
month
15:38
is
15:39
less
15:39
than
15:39
I
15:39
spend
15:40
on
15:40
energy
15:40
drinks.
15:41
And
15:41
I
15:41
believe
15:41
in
15:42
you
15:42
guys.
15:42
If
15:43
half
15:43
of
15:43
our
15:43
listeners
15:44
do
15:44
it,
15:44
as
15:44
Will
15:44
says,
15:45
we'll
15:45
be
15:45
rich.
15:45
I
15:46
think
15:46
that's
15:46
what
15:46
he
15:46
said.
15:47
Just
15:47
like
15:47
the
15:47
righteous
15:48
gemstones.
15:48
We're
15:48
jumping
15:49
into
15:49
the
15:49
episode
15:49
now.
15:51
I
15:52
want
15:52
to
15:52
know
15:52
before
15:52
we
15:52
get
15:52
to
15:52
the
15:53
do
15:53
the
15:53
show,
15:54
the
15:54
good
15:55
stuff,
15:56
this
15:56
show,
15:57
for
15:58
those
15:58
who
15:58
I'm
15:59
gonna
15:59
give,
15:59
like,
15:59
a
15:59
brief
15:59
premise
16:00
and
16:00
we'll
16:00
do
16:00
a
16:00
full
16:00
premise
16:01
earlier,
16:01
later.
16:02
It's
16:02
like
16:02
televangelist
16:03
rich
16:04
pastors,
16:05
like,
16:05
if
16:05
you
16:05
follow,
16:06
like,
16:06
the
16:06
Instagram
16:06
account,
16:07
like,
16:08
what's
16:08
it.
16:08
The
16:09
pastors
16:09
with
16:09
cool
16:09
shoes,
16:10
whatever
16:10
it's
16:10
called,
16:10
y'
16:10
all
16:11
know.
16:11
Y'
16:11
all
16:11
know
16:11
what
16:11
I'm
16:11
talking
16:11
about.
16:11
Sneakers.
16:13
Preachers
16:13
and
16:13
sneakers.
16:14
Preachers.
16:14
Sneakers.
16:14
Yeah,
16:15
yeah.
16:16
These.
16:16
These
16:16
are
16:16
the
16:16
kind
16:17
of
16:17
people
16:17
who
16:17
would
16:17
probably
16:17
be
16:17
on
16:18
that
16:18
Instagram,
16:19
you
16:19
know,
16:20
they're
16:20
rich
16:21
people.
16:21
They're
16:21
kind
16:21
of
16:21
assholes.
16:22
This
16:22
is
16:23
gonna
16:23
be
16:23
an
16:23
explicit
16:23
episode.
16:24
Joshua
16:25
put
16:25
that
16:25
in
16:25
the
16:25
notes.
16:27
But,
16:28
like,
16:29
that's
16:29
who
16:29
we're
16:29
dealing
16:29
with.
16:30
They.
16:30
They
16:31
kind
16:31
of,
16:31
for
16:31
me,
16:31
they
16:32
version,
16:32
like,
16:32
megapastor
16:33
televangelist
16:34
and
16:34
then,
16:34
like,
16:34
the
16:35
absurd
16:35
Pentecostals
16:36
and
16:36
someone
16:36
who
16:36
grew
16:36
up
16:37
Pentecostal.
16:37
I'm
16:37
like,
16:38
I
16:38
see
16:38
some
16:38
of
16:38
it,
16:38
and
16:38
some
16:39
of
16:39
it,
16:39
I'm
16:39
like,
16:40
no,
16:40
you
16:40
guys
16:40
are.
16:41
That's.
16:41
That's
16:41
not
16:41
really
16:41
what
16:42
it's
16:42
like.
16:42
Y'
16:42
all
16:42
missed
16:42
that
16:43
a
16:43
little
16:43
bit.
16:43
And
16:43
then
16:43
some
16:43
of
16:43
the
16:44
stuff,
16:44
I'm
16:44
like,
16:45
no,
16:45
unfortunately,
16:46
that's.
16:46
That's
16:46
pretty
16:46
spot
16:47
on.
16:48
We
16:48
also
16:49
do
16:49
have
16:49
to
16:49
do
16:49
a
16:49
disclaimer.
16:50
One
16:50
of
16:50
our
16:50
other
16:51
hosts,
16:51
Elizabeth
16:52
Clyde,
16:52
is
16:52
married
16:53
to
16:53
Taylor
16:54
Clyde,
16:54
who
16:54
is
16:54
a
16:54
worship
16:55
leader
16:55
for
16:56
Faith
16:57
Assemblies
16:57
of
16:57
God
16:58
in
16:58
Somerville
16:59
area
16:59
that
16:59
is
16:59
technically
17:00
a
17:00
megachurch.
17:02
I
17:02
like
17:02
them,
17:02
I
17:03
support
17:03
them,
17:03
even
17:03
though
17:03
theologically
17:04
I
17:04
very
17:04
much
17:05
disagree
17:05
with
17:05
them.
17:05
I
17:06
don't
17:06
think
17:06
they're
17:06
the
17:06
kind
17:06
of
17:07
people
17:07
this
17:07
show's
17:07
talking
17:07
about
17:08
from
17:08
my
17:09
experiences
17:09
there.
17:10
But
17:10
I
17:10
do
17:10
want
17:10
you
17:10
guys
17:11
to
17:11
know
17:11
that
17:11
we
17:11
do
17:11
have
17:11
a
17:12
connection
17:12
to
17:12
a
17:12
megachurch.
17:14
Before
17:14
we
17:14
talk
17:14
about
17:15
anything
17:15
else,
17:15
because
17:15
I
17:15
don't
17:15
want
17:16
to
17:16
be
17:16
hypocrites.
17:18
So
17:18
with
17:18
all
17:18
that
17:18
said,
17:19
I
17:19
think
17:19
we
17:19
should
17:19
get
17:19
into,
17:20
before
17:20
we
17:20
get
17:20
to
17:21
the
17:21
show,
17:21
our
17:21
own
17:21
experiences.
17:23
Especially
17:24
I
17:24
hate
17:24
to
17:24
say
17:25
this
17:25
now,
17:25
guys,
17:26
remember,
17:26
I
17:27
grew
17:27
up
17:27
a
17:27
lot
17:27
of
17:28
my
17:28
early
17:28
church
17:29
years
17:29
was
17:30
in
17:30
Florida
17:30
at
17:30
a
17:30
Pentecostal
17:31
church
17:31
in
17:31
Assemblies
17:32
of
17:32
God.
17:32
So
17:33
when
17:33
I
17:33
say
17:33
this,
17:33
I
17:33
don't
17:34
mean
17:34
no
17:34
disrespect,
17:35
but
17:35
Evan,
17:36
as
17:36
someone
17:36
who
17:36
lives
17:37
in
17:37
Florida,
17:37
I
17:37
feel
17:37
like
17:37
you
17:38
probably
17:38
got
17:38
some
17:38
wild
17:38
stories.
17:39
Yeah.
17:40
What's
17:41
some
17:41
of
17:41
the
17:41
wildest
17:41
stuff
17:41
you've
17:42
seen
17:42
in
17:42
church?
17:44
I
17:44
grew
17:44
up
17:45
for
17:46
my
17:46
formative
17:46
years
17:47
was
17:48
very
17:48
Pentecostal.
17:49
I
17:50
remember
17:51
the
17:51
whole
17:52
scene.
17:52
And
17:53
then
17:53
just
17:53
one
17:53
Sunday,
17:54
what
17:54
if.
17:54
We
17:54
went
17:54
to
17:54
the
17:54
same
17:55
church?
17:56
I
17:56
was
17:56
wondering
17:57
that.
17:59
And
17:59
then
17:59
just
18:00
one
18:01
day
18:01
in
18:01
the
18:02
90s,
18:03
we
18:03
went
18:04
to
18:05
a
18:05
Baptist
18:05
church
18:06
without
18:06
any
18:07
warning.
18:07
I
18:07
was
18:07
like,
18:07
wait,
18:08
what
18:08
is
18:08
this
18:08
place?
18:08
This
18:09
is
18:09
so
18:09
boring.
18:09
But
18:10
it's
18:10
kind
18:10
of
18:10
cool.
18:12
So
18:12
I
18:12
grew
18:13
up
18:13
in
18:13
the
18:14
Baptist
18:17
in
18:17
the
18:18
Southern
18:18
Baptist
18:19
churches
18:20
in
18:20
South
18:20
Florida
18:21
in
18:21
that
18:22
whole
18:22
scene.
18:23
And.
18:24
And
18:24
when
18:25
it
18:25
merged
18:25
into
18:26
the
18:26
non
18:27
denominational
18:30
flavor,
18:31
I
18:31
stuck
18:32
with
18:32
it.
18:33
We
18:33
were
18:33
still
18:34
there.
18:34
And
18:34
in
18:35
my
18:36
20s,
18:37
pretty
18:37
much
18:37
all
18:38
of
18:38
my
18:38
20s
18:38
was
18:39
used
18:39
up
18:41
being
18:42
taken
18:42
advantage
18:42
of
18:43
because
18:43
I
18:44
have
18:44
a
18:44
bunch
18:45
of
18:45
spare
18:45
time
18:46
and
18:46
I'm
18:46
kind
18:47
of
18:47
an
18:47
adult
18:47
and
18:47
I
18:48
have
18:48
some
18:48
skills.
18:49
So
18:50
I
18:50
gave
18:50
my
18:50
skills
18:51
to
18:51
the
18:51
church
18:51
for
18:53
a
18:53
long
18:53
time.
18:54
And
18:55
so
18:56
I
18:56
have
18:56
a
18:56
lot
18:56
of
18:57
crazy
18:57
stories
18:59
about.
19:00
I
19:01
don't
19:01
want
19:01
to
19:01
get
19:01
off.
19:01
But
19:02
what
19:02
was
19:02
the
19:02
question?
19:04
Just
19:05
some
19:05
of
19:05
your
19:05
craziest
19:05
stories.
19:06
Yeah.
19:07
Like
19:08
tigers
19:09
on
19:09
stage.
19:10
There's
19:10
a
19:10
whole.
19:12
Wait,
19:12
what
19:13
tiger?
19:13
Yeah.
19:14
Praise
19:15
God.
19:15
Okay.
19:15
That's
19:16
all.
19:16
I
19:17
don't
19:17
need
19:17
any
19:17
context.
19:19
The
19:20
huge.
19:21
He.
19:23
Because.
19:23
Because
19:24
I
19:24
would
19:24
serve
19:25
and
19:25
the
19:26
pastor
19:26
was
19:27
very
19:27
much
19:27
into
19:28
Walt
19:28
Disney
19:28
at
19:28
the
19:28
time
19:29
and
19:29
he
19:29
heard
19:29
that,
19:29
that
19:30
one
19:30
story
19:30
about
19:30
Walt
19:31
Disney
19:31
bringing
19:31
in
19:32
the
19:33
elephant
19:34
to
19:34
the,
19:35
to
19:36
the
19:36
meeting
19:37
for
19:37
something.
19:37
So
19:37
he
19:37
thought
19:38
he
19:38
would
19:38
bring
19:38
the
19:38
tiger.
19:39
I'm
19:39
like,
19:39
bro,
19:39
you're
19:40
not
19:40
Walt
19:40
Disney.
19:40
Sure,
19:41
same
19:41
thing.
19:42
There's
19:43
24
19:44
hour
19:45
dominoes,
19:46
a
19:46
terminant
19:47
on
19:47
stage.
19:50
I
19:50
saw
19:50
Batman
19:52
fall
19:52
from
19:52
the
19:53
roof
19:53
like
19:53
20ft
19:54
up.
19:54
I
19:55
didn't
19:55
know
19:55
you
19:55
saw
19:55
me
19:55
do
19:55
that.
19:56
Yeah,
19:56
yeah,
19:57
now
19:57
I
19:58
know
19:58
who
19:58
that
19:58
was.
19:59
But
20:00
yeah,
20:01
there's
20:01
a
20:02
whole
20:02
scene.
20:03
And
20:03
the
20:04
righteous
20:04
gemstones
20:05
is
20:05
a
20:06
exaggeration
20:07
of
20:07
it,
20:08
but
20:08
it's
20:08
not
20:08
too
20:09
far
20:09
off.
20:09
It's
20:10
not
20:10
too
20:10
far
20:10
off.
20:11
There's.
20:11
Yeah,
20:12
yeah.
20:12
Excuse
20:12
the
20:12
wall.
20:13
Yeah.
20:13
I
20:13
never
20:13
had
20:13
any.
20:13
Any
20:14
tigers.
20:14
Never
20:15
any
20:15
tigers.
20:16
I
20:17
kind
20:17
of
20:17
want
20:17
to
20:17
go
20:17
last
20:17
because
20:19
I
20:19
was
20:20
pursuing
20:20
ordination
20:21
in
20:21
A
20:21
Pentecostal
20:22
church
20:22
for
20:22
a
20:22
while.
20:22
So
20:23
I
20:23
actually
20:23
have
20:23
some
20:23
stories
20:23
of
20:24
myself
20:24
that
20:25
I
20:25
want
20:25
to
20:25
tell
20:25
on
20:25
and
20:26
maybe
20:26
add
20:26
a
20:26
little
20:26
bit
20:27
of
20:27
nuance
20:27
to
20:27
this
20:27
before
20:27
we
20:28
get
20:28
into
20:28
it.
20:29
So
20:30
I'm
20:30
going
20:30
to
20:30
go
20:30
last,
20:30
if
20:30
that's
20:31
okay
20:31
with
20:31
Kevin
20:31
and
20:31
Will.
20:33
Will,
20:33
as
20:33
a
20:34
pastor,
20:34
I
20:34
kind
20:34
of.
20:34
I'm
20:34
excited
20:35
to
20:35
hear
20:35
some
20:35
of
20:35
yours.
20:35
Although
20:35
you
20:36
grew
20:36
up
20:36
Lutheran,
20:37
so
20:37
I
20:37
don't
20:37
know
20:37
how
20:38
crazy.
20:38
Did
20:39
y'
20:39
all
20:39
ever
20:39
bring,
20:39
like,
20:39
a
20:40
shark
20:41
on
20:41
stage
20:41
or
20:41
anything?
20:43
No.
20:44
Like,
20:44
the
20:44
craziest
20:45
thing
20:45
that
20:45
would
20:45
happen
20:45
in
20:46
Lutheran
20:46
church
20:46
growing
20:46
up
20:47
is
20:47
like,
20:47
someone
20:47
would
20:47
clap
20:48
after
20:48
a
20:48
sermon
20:49
and
20:49
everyone
20:49
would
20:49
look
20:49
at
20:49
that
20:49
person
20:50
and
20:50
be
20:50
like,
20:50
what
20:51
are
20:51
you
20:51
doing?
20:51
Why
20:52
are
20:52
you
20:52
clapping?
20:54
So,
20:54
yeah,
20:55
the
20:55
controversy
20:56
and
20:56
scandal
20:56
of
20:56
clapping
20:57
after
20:57
a
20:58
music
21:00
presentation
21:00
or
21:00
offertory
21:01
by
21:01
the
21:01
choir
21:02
that
21:03
was
21:04
debated
21:04
within
21:05
my
21:05
church.
21:06
The
21:06
chosen
21:07
frozen
21:07
of
21:08
the
21:08
Lutherans.
21:09
No,
21:09
I
21:09
didn't
21:09
grow
21:10
up
21:10
mega
21:10
church
21:11
or
21:11
kind
21:11
of
21:11
Pentecostal
21:12
or
21:12
charismatic.
21:13
It
21:13
was
21:14
Lutheran
21:14
through
21:14
and
21:14
through.
21:14
But
21:15
my
21:15
first
21:15
call
21:16
was
21:16
in
21:17
Florida,
21:17
South
21:17
Florida,
21:18
and
21:19
our
21:20
Lutheran
21:20
church
21:20
there.
21:21
I
21:22
was,
21:22
you
21:22
know,
21:22
fresh
21:23
out
21:23
of
21:23
seminary.
21:23
The
21:24
people
21:24
who
21:24
have
21:24
been
21:24
there,
21:24
been
21:24
a
21:25
long
21:25
time
21:25
built
21:25
up
21:25
that
21:25
church,
21:26
God
21:26
bless
21:26
them.
21:27
But
21:27
they
21:28
were
21:28
surrounded
21:28
by
21:28
a
21:29
lot
21:29
of
21:29
kind
21:29
of
21:30
mega
21:31
churches
21:31
and.
21:32
And
21:33
kind
21:33
of
21:33
South
21:34
Florida
21:35
amusement
21:35
park,
21:37
Disney
21:38
fied
21:39
Americana
21:40
around
21:40
them.
21:40
So
21:41
it
21:41
was
21:41
like,
21:41
how
21:41
are
21:41
we
21:41
going
21:41
to
21:41
get
21:42
attention?
21:42
How
21:42
are
21:42
we
21:42
going
21:42
to
21:42
be
21:43
like
21:43
the
21:43
church
21:43
down
21:43
the
21:43
road?
21:44
So
21:44
I
21:44
feel
21:44
like
21:45
that
21:45
church.
21:47
And
21:47
I
21:47
was
21:47
taking
21:47
notes,
21:48
I
21:48
was
21:48
looking
21:49
at
21:49
a
21:49
distance,
21:49
and
21:50
as
21:50
a
21:50
youth
21:50
pastor
21:51
there,
21:51
how
21:51
do
21:52
you
21:52
compete
21:52
with
21:52
the
21:52
church
21:53
down
21:53
the
21:53
road?
21:53
How
21:53
do
21:53
you
21:53
get
21:54
attention?
21:54
How
21:54
do
21:54
you
21:56
compete?
21:56
Yeah,
21:57
how
21:57
do
21:57
you
21:57
compete?
21:58
And
21:58
so
21:59
that
21:59
church
22:01
did
22:01
some
22:01
things
22:01
where
22:02
they
22:02
were.
22:02
And
22:03
for
22:03
me,
22:03
fresh
22:04
out
22:04
of
22:04
seminary,
22:05
idealistic
22:05
young
22:06
pastor,
22:06
I
22:06
was
22:06
like,
22:07
what
22:07
are
22:07
we
22:08
doing?
22:09
But
22:09
I
22:09
did
22:09
see
22:10
there,
22:10
I
22:10
guess
22:10
it
22:10
wasn't
22:11
crazy,
22:11
but
22:12
at
22:12
one
22:12
point,
22:13
because
22:13
at
22:13
South
22:13
Florida,
22:14
you
22:14
don't
22:15
experience
22:15
winter
22:16
or
22:16
the
22:16
seasons
22:17
during
22:17
a
22:17
holiday
22:18
season.
22:18
They
22:18
did
22:18
have
22:19
a
22:19
fake
22:20
snow
22:20
machine
22:21
blow.
22:21
What
22:21
it
22:22
looked
22:22
like
22:22
snow
22:23
in
22:23
the
22:23
sanctuary
22:24
while
22:25
worship
22:25
was
22:25
going
22:25
on.
22:26
And
22:26
I'm
22:26
like,
22:27
okay.
22:27
These
22:28
kind
22:28
of
22:28
special
22:28
effects
22:29
in
22:29
church
22:29
is
22:30
something
22:30
that
22:30
I
22:30
grew
22:30
up
22:30
with
22:31
and
22:31
really
22:32
took
22:32
me
22:32
back.
22:33
But
22:33
yeah,
22:34
that
22:34
whole
22:34
model
22:34
of
22:37
marketing
22:38
Jesus
22:39
for
22:39
the
22:40
benefit
22:40
of
22:40
people's
22:40
souls
22:42
was
22:42
something
22:43
that
22:44
was
22:44
a
22:44
little
22:44
new
22:44
to
22:44
me
22:45
when
22:45
I
22:45
was.
22:45
When
22:45
I
22:46
was
22:46
down
22:46
in
22:46
Florida.
22:47
Yeah,
22:47
yeah.
22:48
And
22:48
Kevin,
22:49
what
22:49
about
22:49
you,
22:49
man?
22:50
So
22:51
I
22:51
grew
22:51
up
22:51
Southern
22:51
Baptist,
22:52
so
22:52
I
22:53
have
22:53
plenty
22:53
of
22:53
all
22:54
kinds
22:54
of
22:54
just,
22:54
you
22:55
know,
22:55
obviously
22:56
fire,
22:56
brimstone
22:57
messages,
22:57
all
22:57
that,
22:58
but
22:58
not
22:58
a
22:58
mega
22:59
church.
22:59
At
22:59
the
22:59
time,
22:59
I
23:00
Do
23:00
have
23:00
experience
23:00
with
23:01
mega
23:01
church.
23:01
Unfortunately,
23:01
I
23:02
was
23:02
never
23:02
like,
23:02
a
23:02
member
23:02
of
23:02
one,
23:03
but,
23:03
like,
23:03
kind
23:03
of
23:04
like
23:04
drifted
23:04
around
23:04
like
23:05
churches.
23:05
I
23:05
was
23:06
like,
23:06
sort
23:06
of
23:06
like
23:07
going
23:07
to
23:07
one
23:07
for
23:07
a
23:07
while,
23:08
but
23:08
in
23:08
the
23:08
church
23:09
I
23:09
grew
23:09
up
23:09
in,
23:09
you
23:10
know,
23:10
it
23:10
was
23:10
just.
23:10
Yeah,
23:11
it
23:11
was
23:11
very
23:11
rigid,
23:12
conservative
23:12
culture.
23:13
And
23:14
one
23:14
of
23:14
the
23:14
things
23:14
I
23:15
just
23:15
thought
23:15
of
23:15
that
23:15
I
23:15
laugh
23:16
at
23:16
is,
23:17
you
23:17
know,
23:17
so,
23:17
like,
23:17
around
23:18
Halloween,
23:18
you
23:19
couldn't
23:19
say
23:19
that
23:19
it
23:19
was
23:20
Halloween.
23:20
They
23:20
had
23:20
to,
23:20
like,
23:21
make
23:21
up
23:21
alternative
23:22
names
23:22
for,
23:23
like,
23:24
the
23:24
celebrations
23:25
around
23:25
that
23:25
time.
23:25
I
23:25
think
23:26
they
23:26
call
23:26
them,
23:26
like,
23:26
fall
23:27
festival
23:27
or
23:27
whatever.
23:28
And,
23:29
like,
23:29
what?
23:29
I.
23:30
I
23:30
just
23:30
remember
23:30
one
23:31
year,
23:31
like,
23:31
you
23:32
know,
23:32
you
23:32
couldn't
23:32
wear
23:33
any
23:33
Harry
23:33
Potter
23:33
costumes
23:34
or
23:34
anything
23:34
like
23:34
that,
23:35
but
23:35
I.
23:36
But.
23:36
Right,
23:36
Exactly.
23:37
But
23:37
I
23:37
just
23:38
remember
23:38
when
23:38
I
23:39
was
23:39
like,
23:39
like,
23:39
oh,
23:39
I.
23:39
I
23:40
dressed
23:40
up
23:40
as
23:40
Terminator
23:41
one
23:41
year
23:41
and
23:41
no
23:41
one
23:42
said
23:42
anything.
23:43
So,
23:43
like,
23:43
I.
23:44
I
23:44
was
23:44
like.
23:44
I
23:46
think,
23:46
exactly.
23:46
I
23:47
was
23:47
like,
23:47
in
23:47
high
23:47
school
23:47
there
23:47
and
23:48
I
23:48
was
23:48
like,
23:48
and
23:48
I
23:49
won't
23:49
say
23:49
anything
23:49
there,
23:49
but
23:49
if
23:50
I
23:50
had
23:50
brought
23:50
a
23:50
wand,
23:50
that
23:51
would
23:51
have
23:51
been
23:51
the
23:51
end
23:51
of
23:51
the
23:51
world.
23:52
But,
23:53
yeah,
23:53
so
23:53
I
23:53
had
23:53
that.
23:54
I'd
23:55
say,
23:55
I
23:55
mean,
23:55
yeah,
23:55
we
23:55
didn't
23:56
have
23:56
any,
23:56
like,
23:57
lavish
23:57
productions
23:58
and
23:58
stuff,
23:58
but
23:59
I
23:59
was
23:59
in
24:00
some
24:00
very
24:00
cringy
24:00
church
24:01
plays.
24:02
I'm
24:02
sure
24:02
we
24:03
could
24:03
all
24:03
relate
24:03
to
24:03
that.
24:04
Where.
24:05
Oh,
24:06
gosh,
24:06
the.
24:07
Just
24:07
the
24:07
dialogue
24:08
you
24:08
have
24:08
to
24:08
read
24:08
at
24:08
those.
24:09
And
24:10
I
24:10
mean,
24:10
I
24:10
mean,
24:10
because
24:10
I
24:11
still
24:11
did
24:11
them
24:11
because
24:11
I
24:12
was
24:12
a
24:12
theater
24:12
kid
24:12
growing
24:13
up,
24:13
so,
24:13
like,
24:14
I
24:14
would
24:14
do
24:14
the
24:14
church
24:15
ones
24:15
and
24:15
then
24:15
I
24:15
would
24:16
do,
24:16
like,
24:16
actual
24:17
plays
24:17
at
24:17
school.
24:18
But,
24:18
yeah,
24:19
just
24:19
doing
24:19
some
24:19
of
24:20
those
24:20
were
24:21
quite
24:21
hilarious.
24:23
And
24:23
then,
24:23
yeah,
24:24
and
24:24
then
24:24
my
24:24
megachurch
24:25
experience
24:25
is
24:26
just
24:26
like
24:26
when
24:26
we
24:27
left
24:27
that
24:27
church
24:27
when
24:28
I
24:28
graduated
24:28
high
24:28
school
24:29
due
24:29
to
24:29
a
24:30
very
24:30
long
24:30
story
24:30
there.
24:31
But
24:31
I,
24:32
like,
24:32
I
24:32
had
24:32
gone
24:32
to
24:33
a
24:33
megachurch
24:33
for
24:33
a
24:34
while
24:34
in
24:34
my
24:34
twenties
24:34
when
24:34
I
24:34
was.
24:35
But
24:35
I
24:35
was
24:35
never
24:35
really
24:36
connected
24:36
there.
24:37
And
24:37
then
24:37
my
24:38
nail
24:38
in
24:38
the
24:38
coffin
24:38
with
24:39
that
24:39
was
24:39
when
24:39
a
24:40
public
24:40
scandal
24:41
leaked
24:41
about
24:41
it.
24:41
So.
24:42
And
24:42
then
24:43
I
24:43
wound
24:43
up
24:43
at
24:44
a
24:44
very
24:44
progressive
24:44
church
24:45
now
24:45
that
24:45
I
24:45
love
24:46
and
24:46
all
24:46
the
24:46
people
24:46
there.
24:47
So
24:47
it's
24:47
been
24:47
a
24:48
full
24:48
cycle
24:48
for
24:48
me.
24:49
Yeah.
24:49
Yeah.
24:50
Awesome.
24:50
Will
24:50
has
24:51
one
24:51
more
24:51
thing.
24:52
Yeah.
24:52
I
24:52
will
24:52
say
24:53
that
24:53
as
24:53
Lutherans
24:54
don't
24:55
really
24:55
exemplify
24:56
mega
24:56
church
24:57
model
24:57
of
24:58
church
24:58
and
24:58
worship.
24:59
Every
25:00
three
25:00
years,
25:02
the
25:02
Evangelical
25:03
Lutheran
25:03
Church
25:04
of
25:04
America
25:04
does
25:05
a
25:05
national
25:05
youth
25:05
gathering.
25:06
And
25:06
so
25:07
all
25:07
the
25:07
youth
25:07
in
25:07
America
25:08
gather
25:08
in,
25:08
like,
25:09
a
25:09
big
25:09
dome
25:10
to
25:10
do
25:10
church
25:10
together
25:11
and
25:11
workshops
25:12
and
25:12
hear
25:12
speakers.
25:13
And
25:13
so
25:13
that's
25:13
kind
25:14
of
25:14
Lutherans,
25:15
elca,
25:15
Lutherans
25:16
doing
25:16
mega
25:16
church
25:17
model.
25:17
And
25:17
so
25:17
there
25:17
are,
25:18
like,
25:18
worship
25:18
praise
25:19
ban,
25:20
big
25:20
banners
25:21
and
25:21
movie
25:22
Screens
25:22
and
25:22
things
25:23
like
25:23
that.
25:23
And
25:24
I.
25:24
I
25:24
don't
25:25
know
25:25
if
25:26
there's
25:26
not
25:27
too
25:27
many
25:27
cringy
25:27
things,
25:27
but
25:28
it's
25:28
not
25:28
what
25:28
we
25:28
usually
25:29
do
25:29
on
25:29
a
25:29
Sunday
25:29
morning.
25:30
That's
25:30
kind
25:30
of
25:30
our
25:31
way.
25:31
We
25:31
do.
25:31
Mega
25:32
church
25:32
is
25:32
gathering
25:33
this
25:33
one
25:34
as
25:34
national
25:34
youth
25:34
gathering.
25:35
But
25:35
I
25:35
will
25:35
say
25:35
there
25:36
was
25:36
one
25:36
time
25:36
during,
25:36
like,
25:37
Holy
25:37
Communion,
25:37
in
25:38
a
25:38
dome
25:38
full
25:39
of,
25:39
like,
25:39
20,000
25:39
kids
25:40
and
25:40
youth
25:40
and
25:41
adults,
25:42
somebody
25:43
ended
25:43
up
25:43
like,
25:43
R
25:44
B
25:44
rapping
25:45
the
25:45
communion
25:46
liturgy
25:47
of
25:47
the
25:47
Lord
25:47
be
25:48
with
25:48
you.
25:48
Yeah.
25:49
And
25:49
also
25:49
with
25:49
you.
25:50
And
25:51
I
25:51
just
25:51
kind
25:51
of
25:52
looked
25:52
to
25:52
my
25:53
neighbor
25:53
like,
25:53
what
25:53
are
25:54
we
25:54
doing?
25:54
And
25:55
I
25:55
was
25:55
like,
25:55
you
25:56
know,
25:56
the
25:56
youth
25:56
liked
25:56
it.
25:56
So
25:57
I
25:57
wasn't
25:57
trying
25:57
to
25:57
be
25:57
too
25:57
judgy,
25:58
but.
25:58
But,
25:58
yeah,
25:59
the
25:59
whole
25:59
hip
25:59
hop,
25:59
rap,
26:00
the
26:00
community
26:01
liturgy
26:01
was
26:02
pretty
26:03
fun.
26:04
I
26:04
mean,
26:04
the
26:04
first
26:04
time
26:05
I
26:05
ever
26:05
heard
26:06
the
26:06
Apostles
26:06
Creed
26:07
was
26:07
in
26:07
rap
26:07
form.
26:08
So
26:09
there
26:09
you
26:09
go.
26:09
We
26:10
don't
26:10
do
26:10
creeds
26:10
as
26:11
Pentecostals
26:12
or
26:12
Baptists,
26:13
really.
26:14
And.
26:14
And
26:14
I
26:15
love
26:15
that
26:15
Kevin
26:15
wasn't
26:15
allowed
26:16
to
26:16
be
26:16
a
26:16
wizard,
26:16
but
26:16
he
26:16
was.
26:17
He
26:17
was
26:17
allowed
26:17
to
26:17
be
26:17
like
26:18
an
26:18
AI
26:18
killer
26:18
robot.
26:19
I
26:19
love
26:19
that
26:20
they
26:20
didn't
26:21
turn
26:21
an
26:21
eye
26:21
there.
26:22
Yeah.
26:23
I
26:23
mean,
26:23
that's
26:24
probably
26:24
just
26:26
foretelling
26:27
of
26:27
our.
26:27
Of
26:27
our
26:27
own
26:28
times
26:28
where,
26:30
you
26:30
know,
26:30
conservative
26:31
churches
26:31
love
26:31
AI
26:31
now,
26:32
but
26:32
still
26:32
hate
26:32
magic.
26:33
You
26:34
know,
26:34
you
26:34
can
26:34
have
26:35
an
26:35
AI
26:35
program
26:35
that
26:35
might,
26:36
you
26:36
know,
26:37
take
26:37
over
26:37
the
26:37
world
26:37
or
26:40
feign
26:40
spirituality
26:41
in
26:41
what
26:41
I
26:41
would
26:41
say
26:42
is
26:42
probably
26:42
a
26:42
sacrilege
26:43
kind
26:43
of
26:43
way.
26:43
But
26:43
if
26:43
you
26:44
have
26:44
a
26:44
rock
26:44
that
26:45
you
26:45
believe
26:45
has
26:45
some
26:46
spiritual
26:46
significance,
26:48
even
26:48
if
26:49
you
26:49
grew
26:49
up
26:49
Greek
26:50
Orthodox,
26:50
you
26:50
know,
26:51
the
26:51
mystic
26:51
Christians.
26:52
Yeah.
26:52
You're
26:53
obviously
26:53
Satan.
26:55
Yeah.
26:55
But
26:57
my
26:57
experience,
26:58
we'd
26:58
be
26:58
here
26:58
all
26:59
day
26:59
if
26:59
I
26:59
went
26:59
through
26:59
everything.
27:00
I'm
27:00
gonna
27:00
try
27:00
and
27:01
give
27:01
some
27:01
of
27:01
my
27:01
high
27:01
and
27:01
low
27:02
lights.
27:03
I
27:03
grew
27:03
up
27:03
in
27:03
the
27:03
kind
27:03
of
27:04
family
27:04
where
27:05
we
27:05
push
27:05
the
27:06
afterlife
27:06
so
27:06
much
27:07
that,
27:07
like,
27:07
this
27:07
life
27:07
doesn't
27:08
matter.
27:09
So
27:09
for
27:09
a
27:10
majority
27:10
of
27:10
my
27:10
life,
27:11
everything
27:11
was
27:11
about
27:12
God,
27:13
heaven.
27:13
And
27:13
I
27:14
so
27:14
fully
27:15
believed
27:15
things.
27:15
Like,
27:15
I
27:15
would
27:16
see
27:16
someone,
27:16
like,
27:17
just,
27:19
you
27:19
know,
27:20
we'll
27:20
say,
27:21
I'm
27:21
trying
27:21
to
27:22
think
27:22
of
27:22
somebody
27:23
TJ's
27:23
fun
27:24
to
27:24
pick
27:24
on
27:24
because
27:24
he
27:24
doesn't
27:24
care
27:25
and
27:25
won't
27:25
listen
27:25
to
27:25
the
27:25
podc.
27:26
Tj,
27:27
total
27:27
lie.
27:28
And
27:28
I
27:28
never
27:29
heard
27:29
him
27:29
forgive.
27:29
Like,
27:29
I
27:30
would
27:30
just
27:30
hound
27:30
him
27:31
because
27:31
I
27:31
was
27:31
so
27:32
constantly
27:32
afraid
27:33
that
27:33
people
27:33
I
27:33
cared
27:33
for
27:33
were
27:33
going
27:34
to
27:34
end
27:34
up
27:34
in
27:34
hell,
27:35
like.
27:35
Like
27:35
a
27:35
genuine
27:36
belief.
27:36
So,
27:37
like,
27:37
it
27:37
wasn't
27:38
like
27:38
I
27:38
was
27:38
just
27:38
trying
27:39
to
27:39
be
27:39
an
27:39
asshole.
27:40
But
27:40
that
27:40
does
27:40
make
27:40
those
27:41
beliefs
27:41
often
27:42
turn
27:42
you
27:42
into
27:42
an
27:43
asshole,
27:43
you
27:44
know,
27:44
so
27:45
that's
27:45
just
27:45
where
27:46
I
27:46
was
27:48
so
27:48
just
27:48
going
27:49
through
27:49
some
27:49
highlights
27:50
throughout,
27:50
you
27:50
know,
27:50
how
27:51
I
27:51
grew
27:51
up.
27:52
I
27:52
remember
27:52
there
27:52
was
27:53
a
27:53
time
27:53
in
27:53
Florida
27:54
with
27:54
this
27:54
simply
27:54
to
27:54
God.
27:55
We
27:55
had
27:55
like
27:55
a
27:55
big
27:55
state
27:56
conference
27:56
we
27:56
went
27:57
to.
27:57
The
27:58
first
27:58
time
27:58
I
27:58
spoke
27:58
in
27:58
tongues
27:59
was
27:59
there
27:59
because
27:59
I
27:59
wanted
28:00
to
28:00
be
28:00
like
28:00
my
28:00
dad,
28:02
which
28:02
I
28:03
do
28:03
believe
28:03
in
28:03
speaking
28:03
in
28:03
tongues.
28:04
But
28:04
I
28:04
also
28:04
think
28:04
that
28:04
that's
28:05
probably
28:05
why
28:05
it
28:05
happened
28:05
that
28:05
time,
28:06
because
28:06
I
28:06
just
28:06
wanted
28:06
to
28:06
be
28:07
like
28:07
my
28:07
dad
28:07
who
28:07
spoke
28:07
in
28:07
tongues.
28:07
Every
28:08
sort
28:08
of
28:08
feeling.
29:02
I
29:02
remember
29:04
that
29:04
a
29:04
lot
29:04
of
29:04
the
29:04
guys
29:04
stuck
29:05
into
29:05
the
29:05
girls
29:05
dressing
29:06
room
29:06
and
29:06
then
29:06
some
29:06
of
29:06
the
29:06
girls
29:07
got
29:07
in
29:07
the
29:07
guys
29:07
dressing
29:07
room
29:08
and
29:09
the
29:09
girls
29:09
were
29:09
apprehended
29:09
and
29:10
the
29:10
guys
29:10
really
29:10
weren't
29:11
because,
29:11
you
29:11
know,
29:11
girls
29:11
shouldn't
29:12
be
29:12
temptress
29:12
or
29:13
something.
29:13
And
29:13
we're
29:13
like
29:14
10
29:14
years
29:14
old.
29:15
We
29:16
weren't
29:16
even
29:16
doing
29:16
it
29:16
for
29:17
that
29:17
kind
29:17
of
29:17
reason.
29:17
We
29:17
were
29:17
doing
29:18
it
29:18
because
29:18
like
29:18
someone
29:18
told
29:18
us
29:18
there's
29:19
a
29:19
difference
29:19
between
29:19
guy
29:19
and
29:19
girl
29:20
and
29:20
I
29:20
want
29:20
to
29:20
know
29:20
what
29:20
it
29:20
was.
29:21
That's
29:22
literally
29:22
all
29:22
it
29:22
was.
29:25
But
29:25
you
29:25
know,
29:25
I
29:25
remember
29:26
that
29:26
kind
29:26
of
29:26
thing.
29:26
I
29:27
remember
29:27
going
29:27
up
29:27
in
29:27
like
29:28
those
29:28
big
29:28
kind
29:28
of
29:28
services.
29:29
I
29:30
do
29:30
remember
29:30
one
29:30
time
29:31
seeing
29:31
someone
29:31
take
29:32
a
29:32
bunch
29:32
of
29:32
like
29:32
TVs
29:33
and
29:33
video
29:33
games
29:33
on
29:34
stage
29:34
with
29:34
a
29:34
baseball
29:35
bat
29:35
and
29:35
just
29:35
smashing
29:36
them
29:36
all.
29:37
And
29:37
like
29:38
the
29:38
point
29:38
of
29:38
the
29:38
message
29:38
was
29:38
supposed
29:39
to
29:39
be,
29:39
here's
29:39
the
29:39
thing
29:40
though,
29:40
like
29:40
it
29:40
was
29:40
someone
29:40
I
29:40
know
29:40
and
29:41
I
29:41
care
29:41
about
29:42
and
29:42
their
29:42
point
29:42
of
29:42
their
29:42
message
29:43
is
29:43
they
29:43
were
29:43
trying
29:43
to
29:43
teach
29:43
us
29:43
that
29:44
like
29:44
every
29:44
second
29:45
counts
29:46
and
29:46
you
29:46
don't
29:46
need
29:46
to
29:47
be
29:47
wasting
29:47
on
29:47
this
29:47
stuff.
29:48
You
29:48
should
29:48
be
29:48
spending
29:48
it
29:48
on
29:48
something
29:49
more
29:49
valuable.
29:49
And
29:49
I'm
29:49
like,
29:50
I.
29:50
As
29:50
an
29:50
adult,
29:51
looking
29:51
back,
29:51
I'm
29:51
like,
29:51
I
29:51
kind
29:52
of
29:52
agree
29:52
with
29:52
what
29:52
you're
29:52
trying
29:53
to
29:53
say.
29:54
But
29:54
also,
29:54
man,
29:55
that
29:55
was
29:55
a
29:55
lot
29:55
of
29:55
wasted
29:56
money
29:56
and
29:56
resources
29:57
and
29:57
we
29:57
could
29:57
have
29:57
done
29:57
good
29:58
stuff
29:58
with
29:58
that
29:58
probably.
30:00
But
30:00
you
30:00
know,
30:00
wanted
30:01
to
30:01
make
30:01
a
30:01
point,
30:01
wanted
30:01
to
30:01
do
30:02
a
30:02
whole
30:02
show.
30:03
Even
30:04
myself,
30:05
I
30:05
remember
30:05
in
30:05
middle
30:06
school
30:06
because,
30:06
you
30:06
know,
30:06
I
30:06
grew
30:06
up
30:07
in
30:07
this
30:07
kind
30:07
of
30:07
environment,
30:07
kind
30:08
of
30:08
learning.
30:08
Like
30:09
if
30:09
you
30:09
say
30:10
you
30:10
felt
30:10
something
30:10
from
30:10
the
30:10
spirit,
30:11
most
30:11
people
30:11
just
30:11
kind
30:11
of
30:11
go
30:12
along.
30:12
So
30:12
I
30:12
remember
30:12
telling
30:13
a
30:13
few
30:13
girl
30:13
that
30:13
I
30:13
felt
30:14
like
30:14
God
30:14
wants
30:14
us
30:14
together.
30:15
You
30:15
know,
30:17
it
30:18
wasn't
30:18
like
30:18
necessarily
30:19
like
30:19
I
30:19
was
30:19
being
30:19
evil.
30:20
It
30:20
was
30:20
just
30:20
like
30:20
this
30:20
was
30:21
the
30:21
world
30:21
we
30:21
lived
30:22
in
30:22
and
30:23
that's
30:23
how
30:23
you
30:23
spoke,
30:24
you
30:24
know,
30:25
which
30:25
I
30:26
look
30:26
back
30:26
on
30:26
and
30:26
I'm
30:26
like,
30:26
that
30:27
was
30:27
evil,
30:27
but
30:28
I
30:28
wasn't
30:28
trying
30:28
to
30:28
be
30:28
evil.
30:29
I
30:29
don't
30:29
know
30:29
if
30:29
that
30:29
makes
30:29
sense.
30:31
And
30:31
then
30:31
I
30:32
remember
30:32
when
30:32
I
30:32
was
30:32
trying
30:32
to
30:32
pursue
30:33
ordination
30:33
myself
30:34
because
30:34
again,
30:35
feared
30:35
of
30:35
Everyone
30:36
going
30:36
to
30:36
hell
30:36
one
30:36
day.
30:38
I
30:38
remember
30:39
picking
30:39
up
30:39
Andy
30:40
Stanley
30:40
books,
30:40
different
30:40
stuff
30:41
like
30:41
that.
30:41
And
30:41
them
30:41
teaching.
30:42
It
30:42
wasn't
30:43
just
30:43
like,
30:43
you're
30:43
competing
30:43
with
30:44
the
30:44
other
30:44
churches.
30:44
If
30:45
you
30:45
do
30:45
something
30:46
visual
30:46
on
30:46
church,
30:47
people
30:47
are
30:47
more
30:47
likely
30:47
to
30:48
remember
30:48
the
30:48
message,
30:48
which
30:49
I
30:49
remember
30:50
the
30:50
message
30:50
of
30:50
a
30:50
guy
30:51
smashing
30:51
TVs.
30:52
It's
30:52
not
30:52
wrong.
30:53
So
30:54
I
30:54
remember
30:54
a
30:54
few
30:54
times
30:54
I
30:55
preached.
30:55
I
30:55
actually
30:56
wore
30:56
a
30:56
pair
30:56
of
30:56
Nikes
30:57
once.
30:57
And
30:57
I
30:58
remember
30:58
the
30:58
name
30:58
of
30:58
the
30:58
message
30:59
was
30:59
just
30:59
do
30:59
it.
30:59
I
31:00
don't
31:00
remember
31:00
what
31:00
I
31:00
was
31:00
preaching
31:00
on,
31:01
but
31:01
I
31:01
do
31:01
remember
31:01
that
31:02
being
31:02
a
31:02
thing
31:03
and
31:03
me
31:03
kind
31:03
of
31:03
doing
31:04
some
31:04
of
31:04
this
31:04
stuff,
31:05
genuinely
31:06
believing,
31:06
like,
31:06
if
31:07
you
31:07
do
31:07
some
31:07
of
31:07
this
31:07
is
31:07
going
31:07
to
31:07
make
31:07
the
31:08
message
31:08
land
31:08
better,
31:09
that
31:10
kind
31:10
of
31:10
stuff.
31:10
But
31:10
also
31:11
in
31:11
that
31:11
same
31:11
environment,
31:12
I
31:13
remember
31:14
praying
31:14
for
31:14
an
31:15
animal
31:15
with
31:15
a
31:15
broken
31:15
limb
31:16
and
31:16
seeing
31:16
it
31:16
kind
31:16
of
31:16
set
31:17
right
31:17
before
31:18
us
31:18
while
31:18
we're
31:18
praying.
31:19
I
31:19
remember
31:20
myself
31:20
when
31:20
I
31:21
had
31:21
my
31:21
accident
31:21
where
31:21
I,
31:22
like,
31:22
died
31:22
temporarily,
31:24
kind
31:24
of
31:24
having
31:24
a
31:25
vision
31:25
of
31:25
like,
31:26
my
31:26
friend
31:26
going
31:26
through
31:26
a
31:27
divorce
31:27
and
31:27
having
31:28
this
31:28
feeling
31:28
of
31:28
like,
31:28
hey,
31:29
if
31:29
you
31:29
go
31:29
now,
31:29
he's
31:30
going
31:30
to
31:30
take
31:30
over
31:30
your
31:30
ministry
31:30
while
31:31
he's
31:31
going
31:31
through
31:31
this.
31:32
And
31:32
I
31:32
came
31:32
back
31:33
and
31:33
a
31:33
month
31:33
later
31:33
he
31:33
got
31:33
a
31:34
divorce.
31:34
And
31:34
it's
31:34
just
31:34
kind
31:35
of
31:35
like,
31:37
I
31:37
don't
31:37
want
31:37
to
31:37
both
31:38
ends
31:38
it.
31:38
There's
31:38
a
31:38
lot
31:38
of
31:39
evil.
31:39
But
31:39
I
31:39
just
31:39
want
31:39
to
31:40
say,
31:40
like,
31:40
as
31:40
someone
31:40
who's
31:41
gone
31:41
through
31:41
it,
31:41
I
31:41
actually
31:42
do
31:42
understand
31:42
where
31:42
a
31:43
lot
31:43
of
31:43
stuff
31:43
is
31:43
going
31:43
through.
31:43
I'm
31:43
as
31:43
someone
31:44
who
31:44
lives
31:44
in
31:44
Charlotte,
31:44
I'm
31:45
right
31:45
here
31:45
where
31:45
Elevation
31:46
is.
31:46
I
31:47
know
31:47
the
31:47
evils
31:48
of
31:48
Stephen
31:48
Furtick
31:48
and
31:49
how
31:49
much
31:49
he
31:49
wants
31:49
to
31:49
put
31:49
on
31:49
a
31:50
show
31:50
and
31:50
compete
31:50
with
31:50
all
31:50
the
31:50
other
31:50
churches
31:51
and
31:51
how
31:51
hard
31:51
that
31:51
makes
31:52
it
31:52
for
31:52
other
31:52
churches
31:52
who
31:52
are
31:52
doing
31:53
genuine
31:53
ministry.
31:53
But
31:53
I
31:54
also
31:54
know
31:55
Love
31:55
Week
31:55
does
31:56
so
31:56
much
31:56
good
31:56
in
31:56
our
31:57
community.
31:57
I
31:57
also
31:57
know
31:58
a
31:58
lot
31:58
of
31:58
these
31:58
small
31:58
communities
31:59
that
31:59
are
31:59
meeting
32:00
together,
32:00
entre
32:01
elevation,
32:02
are
32:02
really
32:02
forming
32:03
some
32:03
strong
32:03
relationships.
32:04
And
32:04
I'm
32:04
like,
32:05
yeah,
32:05
so
32:05
I
32:06
don't
32:06
want
32:06
to
32:06
both
32:06
ends
32:06
it.
32:06
But
32:07
I
32:07
also
32:07
feel
32:07
like
32:07
we'd
32:08
be
32:08
remiss
32:08
if
32:08
we
32:09
just
32:09
dismissed
32:09
it
32:09
all
32:09
as
32:10
this
32:10
is
32:10
bad,
32:10
you
31:20
know,
32:12
100%.
32:12
I
32:13
completely
32:13
agree
32:13
with
32:13
you
32:14
because
32:15
I'm
32:15
in
32:15
that
32:15
space
32:16
too,
32:16
where
32:18
my
32:18
experience
32:19
was
32:19
so
32:20
extreme
32:22
and
32:23
my
32:23
thoughts
32:23
were
32:23
like
32:24
that
32:24
too.
32:25
But
32:25
then
32:26
when
32:27
you
32:27
heal
32:28
from
32:28
that
32:28
yourself,
32:29
you
32:29
can
32:29
look
32:29
back
32:29
on
32:30
that
32:31
and
32:31
see
32:31
the
32:31
good
32:31
in
32:32
it.
32:34
And
32:35
that's
32:36
my
32:36
test
32:36
with
32:37
it
32:38
all
32:38
now.
32:38
It's
32:38
like,
32:39
sure,
32:41
the
32:41
sermons
32:42
might
32:42
be
32:43
just
32:44
to
32:44
get
32:44
people
32:44
through
32:44
the
32:45
door,
32:45
but
32:45
they
32:46
are
32:46
providing
32:47
a
32:47
service,
32:48
they
32:48
are
32:48
doing
32:49
good
32:50
and
32:51
they
32:51
are
32:51
doing
32:51
Good
32:51
to
32:52
the
32:53
community
32:54
and
32:54
everything.
32:55
So
32:55
I
32:56
feel,
32:56
yeah,
32:58
you
32:58
know,
32:58
sermon
32:59
illustrations
32:59
and
32:59
trying
33:00
to
33:00
make
33:00
relevant
33:01
God's
33:01
word
33:01
for
33:01
a
33:01
present
33:02
day
33:02
context.
33:02
I
33:03
think
33:04
finding
33:04
ways
33:05
to
33:05
have
33:05
people
33:05
connect
33:05
or
33:06
have
33:06
people
33:06
remember
33:06
your
33:06
message.
33:07
There's
33:07
nothing
33:07
wrong
33:08
with
33:08
powerful
33:09
sermon
33:09
illustrations
33:10
or
33:10
props
33:11
and
33:11
those
33:11
kinds
33:12
of
33:12
things,
33:12
I
33:12
think.
33:12
But
33:13
there's
33:13
a
33:13
time
33:13
when
33:13
you
33:13
can
33:14
take
33:14
it
33:14
too
33:14
far
33:15
and
33:15
it
33:15
can
33:15
get
33:15
cringy
33:16
and
33:16
you're
33:17
doing
33:17
it
33:17
for
33:17
attention
33:17
or
33:18
doing
33:18
it
33:18
for
33:18
the
33:18
wrong
33:18
reasons.
33:19
And
33:19
so
33:21
I
33:21
think
33:22
that's
33:22
what
33:22
kind
33:22
of
33:23
people
33:23
do.
33:24
The
33:24
human
33:24
condition,
33:25
our
33:25
fallen
33:26
condition,
33:27
being
33:27
imperfect
33:28
and
33:28
sinners,
33:29
you
33:30
know,
33:30
what's
33:30
our
33:30
motivation?
33:31
What's
33:31
behind
33:32
all
33:32
this?
33:32
So
33:32
I
33:32
think,
33:33
you
33:33
know,
33:33
I've
33:33
used
33:33
sermon
33:34
illustrations
33:34
for
33:35
children's
33:35
messages
33:35
and
33:36
you
33:36
know,
33:36
we
33:36
just
33:37
came
33:37
off
33:37
of
33:37
May
33:37
4th
33:38
and
33:38
I
33:38
use
33:38
Star
33:38
wars
33:38
as
33:39
kind
33:39
of
33:39
a
33:39
prop
33:40
to
33:40
illustrate
33:41
a
33:41
depth
33:42
of
33:42
spirituality
33:42
that
33:42
we're
33:43
finding
33:43
in
33:43
our
33:43
fandom.
33:44
And
33:44
my
33:44
wife
33:45
warned
33:45
me.
33:45
She
33:45
was
33:45
like,
33:46
hey,
33:46
don't
33:46
take
33:46
it
33:46
too
33:46
far.
33:47
Don't
33:47
make
33:47
it
33:47
cringy.
33:48
Don't
33:48
become
33:49
like
33:49
a
33:49
mega
33:49
church.
33:49
This,
33:50
you
33:50
know,
33:51
doing
33:51
all
33:51
these
33:52
things,
33:52
use
33:52
it
33:52
in
33:52
a
33:53
way
33:53
that's
33:53
still
33:53
reverence
33:54
and
33:54
points
33:55
to
33:55
Jesus,
33:55
not
33:56
get
33:56
drawn
33:57
attention
33:57
to
33:57
yourself
33:58
or
33:58
other
33:58
things.
33:59
And
33:59
I
33:59
think
33:59
with
34:00
righteous
34:00
gemstones,
34:02
you
34:02
know,
34:02
Danny
34:02
McBride
34:02
has
34:03
said
34:03
in
34:03
interviews,
34:03
I've
34:04
heard
34:04
him
34:04
on
34:04
podcasts
34:05
and
34:05
things
34:05
talk
34:05
about
34:05
like,
34:06
they
34:06
really
34:06
don't
34:07
want
34:07
to
34:09
parody
34:09
Jesus
34:10
or
34:10
pick
34:11
on
34:11
Jesus
34:11
or
34:11
say
34:11
that
34:11
religion
34:12
is
34:12
bad
34:12
or
34:12
Christianity
34:13
is
34:13
bad.
34:13
But
34:14
sometimes
34:14
the
34:14
people
34:14
that
34:15
follow
34:15
these
34:16
religions
34:16
that
34:16
follow
34:17
Jesus
34:18
are
34:18
the
34:18
absurdity
34:19
behind
34:19
it.
34:19
That's
34:20
what
34:20
they're
34:20
parodying.
34:21
The
34:21
personalities
34:22
and
34:22
the
34:22
people
34:22
that
34:23
follow
34:23
Jesus
34:23
that
34:23
take
34:24
it
34:24
too
34:24
far.
34:24
That's
34:25
who
34:25
they're
34:25
really
34:26
trying
34:26
to
34:26
shine
34:26
a
34:27
light
34:27
on
34:27
and
34:27
hope
34:27
a
34:27
mirror
34:28
to
34:28
of
34:28
the
34:28
absurdity
34:29
of
34:29
some
34:29
of
34:29
these
34:29
mega
34:30
churches
34:30
and
34:30
what
34:30
they're
34:30
up
34:31
to.
34:31
And
34:31
so
34:31
I
34:32
think
34:32
with
34:32
the,
34:32
with
34:32
the
34:32
show
34:33
itself,
34:33
there
34:33
is
34:33
a
34:33
depth
34:34
of
34:34
family
34:34
and
34:34
relationships
34:35
and
34:35
love
34:35
and
34:36
what
34:36
they're
34:36
truly
34:36
hungering
34:37
for
34:37
and
34:37
what
34:38
they're
34:38
longing
34:38
for.
34:38
And
34:39
you'll
34:39
never
34:40
find,
34:40
even
34:41
though,
34:41
yes,
34:42
it's
34:42
rated
34:42
R,
34:42
is
34:43
gratuitous
34:44
cussing
34:45
and
34:45
sex
34:45
and
34:46
full
34:46
frontal
34:46
nudity.
34:46
And
34:47
this
34:47
show
34:47
is
34:47
not
34:48
for
34:48
everyone
34:48
and
34:48
not
34:48
for
34:49
all
34:49
Christians,
34:49
but,
34:50
or
34:51
any
34:51
people
34:51
of
34:51
faith.
34:52
All
34:52
people.
34:52
But
34:52
I
34:53
think
34:53
if
34:53
you
34:53
go
34:53
into
34:54
it
34:54
knowing
34:54
that
34:54
it's
34:54
rated
34:55
R,
34:55
knowing
34:55
that
34:56
is
34:56
going
34:57
to
34:57
take
34:57
things
34:58
really
34:58
far
34:59
and
34:59
cross
34:59
lines
34:59
in
35:00
certain
35:00
ways.
35:00
But
35:00
if
35:00
you
35:01
look
35:01
behind
35:01
of
35:02
what's
35:02
going
35:02
on
35:03
in
35:03
the
35:03
comedy,
35:04
that
35:04
will
35:04
illustrate
35:06
real
35:06
world
35:06
problems
35:07
and
35:07
what
35:07
people
35:09
commodify
35:10
Jesus
35:11
or
35:11
the
35:11
church
35:12
or
35:12
religion
35:12
for.
35:14
I
35:14
think
35:14
that's
35:15
where
35:15
you
35:15
can
35:15
see
35:16
the
35:16
critique
35:17
and
35:17
the
35:17
commentary
35:18
on
35:18
present
35:18
day,
35:19
mainly
35:19
America
35:20
and
35:20
how
35:20
we
35:21
had
35:21
the
35:21
biggest.
35:21
The
35:22
biggest,
35:22
the
35:22
biggest,
35:23
the
35:23
loudest,
35:24
the
35:24
most
35:24
popular,
35:24
the
35:25
most
35:25
attended,
35:25
the
35:25
most
35:25
people,
35:26
the
35:26
most
35:26
money.
35:27
They're
35:27
the
35:27
most
35:27
successful.
35:28
The
35:28
prosperity
35:29
gospel
35:29
in
35:29
its
35:30
full,
35:30
like,
35:32
without
35:32
any.
35:33
Any
35:34
hidden,
35:34
like,
35:35
agendas.
35:35
But
35:35
it's
35:36
full
35:36
frontal.
35:36
Full
35:36
frontal
35:37
prosperity
35:37
gospel.
35:38
That's
35:38
what
35:38
this
35:38
is.
35:39
Full
35:39
frontal
35:39
prosperity
35:40
gospel.
35:40
That
35:41
I
35:41
think
35:41
that's
35:41
what
35:41
they're
35:42
trying
35:42
to
35:42
say.
35:42
Whether
35:43
you
35:43
agree
35:43
with
35:43
his
35:44
humor
35:44
or
35:44
not,
35:45
I
35:45
think,
35:45
I
35:46
think
35:46
that's
35:46
what's
35:46
going
35:46
on
35:46
in
35:47
the
35:47
show.
35:47
And
35:47
I
35:47
think
35:47
in
35:48
our
35:48
churches
35:48
that
35:49
two
35:49
truths
35:49
can
35:49
be.
35:50
Can
35:50
hang
35:50
out
35:50
in
35:50
the
35:50
same
35:50
room
35:51
together.
35:51
Two
35:51
things
35:52
can
35:52
be
35:52
right.
35:52
Two
35:52
things
35:53
can
35:53
kind
35:53
of
35:54
hang
35:54
out
35:54
together
35:54
and
35:55
have
35:55
a
35:55
dialogue.
35:55
And
35:56
I
35:56
think,
35:56
I
35:57
think
35:57
that
35:57
can
35:57
go
35:59
what
35:59
we
35:59
grew
35:59
up
36:00
with
36:00
in
36:00
these
36:00
religious
36:01
circles.
36:01
Yeah,
36:02
yeah,
36:02
yeah.
36:04
Two
36:04
more
36:04
quick
36:04
things
36:04
before
36:05
we
36:05
get
36:05
into
36:05
it,
36:05
because
36:06
I
36:06
do
36:06
want
36:06
to
36:06
mention.
36:07
And
36:07
part
36:07
of
36:07
it's
36:07
because
36:07
I
36:08
want
36:08
to
36:08
recommend
36:08
something
36:08
for
36:08
people.
36:11
One
36:11
is
36:14
I'm
36:15
trying
36:15
to
36:15
think
36:15
of
36:15
how
36:15
to
36:16
do
36:16
this.
36:17
I'm
36:18
just
36:18
going
36:18
to
36:18
lean
36:18
into
36:18
one
36:18
and
36:18
maybe
36:19
forget
36:19
the
36:19
other.
36:22
I'm
36:22
going
36:22
to
36:22
be
36:23
explicit
36:24
with
36:24
this
36:24
because
36:25
I
36:25
think
36:25
it's
36:26
correct
36:26
to
36:26
be.
36:27
There's
36:28
a
36:28
church
36:28
in
36:28
Greenville,
36:29
South
36:29
Carolina,
36:30
Legacy
36:31
that
36:32
I've
36:32
seen
36:32
do
36:32
a
36:32
lot
36:33
of
36:33
harm
36:33
and
36:33
it's
36:33
affected
36:34
a
36:34
lot
36:34
of
36:34
people
36:35
personally.
36:35
To
36:36
me,
36:36
I've
36:36
seen
36:36
where
36:37
people,
36:37
they
36:37
made
36:38
up
36:38
stuff,
36:39
accusing
36:39
people
36:39
so
36:40
they
36:40
could
36:40
kick
36:40
him
36:40
out
36:40
because
36:41
basically
36:41
someone
36:41
disagreed
36:42
with
36:42
the
36:42
head
36:42
pastor
36:42
and
36:42
his
36:43
ego
36:43
was
36:43
just
36:43
too
36:43
big
36:43
for
36:44
that.
36:44
A
36:45
lot
36:45
of
36:45
the
36:45
stuff
36:45
they
36:45
teach
36:45
is
36:46
pretty
36:46
close
36:46
to
36:46
prosperity
36:47
Gospel,
36:47
even
36:47
though
36:48
it's
36:48
not
36:48
quite
36:48
there.
36:49
But
36:50
because
36:50
their
36:50
church
36:50
keeps
36:51
growing,
36:51
the
36:51
denomination
36:52
I
36:52
grew
36:52
up
36:52
in
36:53
keeps
36:53
supporting
36:54
them
36:54
anyway.
36:55
And
36:55
that's
36:55
part
36:56
of
36:56
why
36:56
I
36:56
didn't
36:56
want
36:56
to
36:56
be
36:56
associated
36:57
with
36:57
it
36:57
anymore
36:57
because
36:58
I
36:58
can
36:58
deal
36:58
with
36:59
some
36:59
theological
36:59
disagreements.
37:00
But
37:00
supporting
37:01
something
37:01
like
37:01
that,
37:01
I'm
37:01
like
37:01
that
37:02
to
37:02
me.
37:03
That
37:03
church,
37:03
to
37:03
me,
37:04
I
37:04
would
37:04
say,
37:04
is
37:04
just
37:04
evil
37:05
because
37:06
I
37:06
feel
37:06
like
37:06
you
37:06
got
37:06
to
37:06
call
37:06
stuff
37:07
what
37:07
it
37:07
is.
37:08
Maybe
37:08
I
37:09
am
37:09
biased
37:09
because
37:09
some
37:09
of
37:09
my
37:09
close
37:10
friends
37:10
were
37:10
kicked
37:10
out
37:10
for
37:11
reasons
37:11
that
37:11
had
37:11
to
37:11
do
37:11
with
37:11
this
37:12
pastor's
37:12
ego.
37:13
Including
37:14
a
37:15
friend
37:15
of
37:15
mine
37:15
who
37:16
a
37:16
lot
37:16
of
37:16
people
37:16
might
37:16
know,
37:17
Shamma
37:17
Morema.
37:18
He's
37:18
talked
37:19
with
37:19
me
37:19
on
37:19
a
37:19
podcast
37:20
about
37:20
this
37:20
before
37:21
he
37:21
started
37:21
a
37:21
podcast,
37:22
Church
37:22
Stories.
37:22
He's
37:23
done
37:23
some
37:23
stuff
37:23
with
37:23
veggietales
37:24
and
37:24
Fish
37:24
Fisher.
37:25
Now
37:25
the
37:25
veggietales
37:26
REM
37:27
Chick
37:27
Fil
37:27
a
37:27
Song.
37:27
He
37:28
does
37:28
a
37:28
lot
37:28
of
37:28
stuff
37:28
like
37:28
that.
37:29
And
37:30
he
37:30
branched
37:30
off.
37:30
Originally
37:31
he
37:31
was
37:31
a
37:31
youth
37:31
pastor
37:31
at
37:32
Legacy
37:33
back
37:33
when
37:33
they
37:33
were
37:34
called
37:34
College
37:34
Park.
37:35
So
37:36
I've
37:36
seen
37:36
a
37:36
lot
37:36
of
37:36
this
37:36
damage
37:37
and
37:37
what
37:37
it
37:37
can
37:37
do
37:37
and
37:39
how
37:39
hard
37:39
it
37:39
is
37:39
for
37:39
some
37:40
people
37:40
to
37:40
heal
37:40
from
37:40
it.
37:41
So
37:41
that's
37:41
just
37:41
one
37:42
thing
37:42
I'm
37:42
holding
37:43
on
37:43
to
37:44
with
37:44
all
37:45
of
37:45
this,
37:45
is
37:45
just
37:45
kind
37:45
of
37:45
remembering
37:46
that
37:47
stuff
37:47
happens,
37:48
you
37:48
know,
37:48
like
37:49
that
37:49
makes
37:49
sense.
37:49
I
37:50
think
37:50
you
37:50
mentioned
37:50
that
37:50
Joshua
37:51
with.
37:51
With.
37:51
With
37:51
ego.
37:52
And
37:52
again,
37:53
tied
37:53
a
37:53
little
37:54
bit
37:54
to,
37:54
you
37:54
know,
37:54
we'll
37:54
get
37:55
more
37:55
into
37:55
Righteous
37:55
Gemstones,
37:56
but
37:56
I
37:56
think
37:56
you
37:57
see
37:57
where.
37:57
What
37:58
is
37:59
the
37:59
family
37:59
wants
38:00
or
38:00
draws
38:00
them
38:01
together
38:01
or
38:01
what.
38:01
What's
38:02
the
38:02
purpose,
38:02
you
38:02
think
38:03
Amy
38:03
Lee
38:03
and
38:04
the
38:04
genuineness
38:04
of
38:05
her
38:05
wanting
38:05
to
38:05
do
38:06
good
38:06
ministry.
38:07
But.
38:07
But
38:07
when
38:07
ego
38:08
and
38:08
money
38:09
and
38:09
power
38:09
and
38:10
influence
38:11
come
38:12
into
38:12
play,
38:12
humans
38:13
are
38:13
going
38:13
to
38:13
human,
38:14
and
38:14
I
38:14
think
38:14
that's
38:15
what's
38:15
going
38:15
on.
38:15
And
38:15
when
38:16
we
38:16
see
38:16
churches
38:17
around
38:17
us,
38:18
whether
38:18
they're
38:18
small,
38:19
medium,
38:19
or
38:20
mega,
38:21
the
38:22
leaders
38:23
who
38:23
are
38:23
in
38:23
positions
38:24
of
38:24
leadership,
38:25
when
38:25
their
38:26
ego
38:26
gets
38:26
in
38:26
the
38:26
way
38:26
and
38:27
becomes
38:27
about
38:27
them,
38:29
that's
38:29
when
38:29
it
38:30
goes
38:30
off
38:30
rails.
38:30
That's
38:31
when
38:31
it
38:31
becomes
38:31
harmful.
38:32
That's
38:32
when
38:32
it
38:32
becomes
38:32
less
38:33
about
38:33
Jesus
38:33
and
38:33
about
38:34
who
38:34
they
38:34
are
38:34
and
38:34
their
38:35
identity
38:35
and
38:35
their
38:35
ego.
38:36
And
38:36
I've
38:36
seen
38:36
that
38:36
come
38:36
into
38:37
play
38:37
many,
38:37
many
38:38
times.
38:38
And
38:38
I
38:38
have
38:39
a
38:39
great
38:39
family
38:40
and
38:40
friends
38:40
and
38:40
wife
38:41
who
38:41
hopefully
38:42
will
38:42
not
38:42
let
38:42
me
38:43
become
38:43
that
38:43
way,
38:44
even
38:44
though
38:44
I'm
38:44
tempted
38:44
all
38:45
the
38:45
time.
38:45
Yeah.
38:45
Yeah.
38:46
And
38:47
yeah.
38:47
And
38:47
it's
38:48
not
38:48
just
38:48
Pentecostal
38:48
churches.
38:49
Other
38:49
churches
38:49
have
38:50
this
38:50
stuff
38:50
too.
38:50
Again,
38:51
Pentecostal.
38:51
Pentecostals
38:52
do
38:52
a
38:52
lot
38:52
of
38:52
good.
38:52
A
38:53
lot
38:53
of
38:53
the
38:53
best
38:53
stuff
38:53
that's
38:53
happened
38:54
to
38:54
me
38:54
in
38:54
my
38:54
life
38:54
are
38:54
because
38:55
time
38:55
spent
38:56
in
38:56
prayer.
38:56
And
38:56
those
38:56
organizations
38:57
or
38:57
people
38:57
who
38:57
spoke
38:57
to
38:58
me,
38:58
particularly
38:58
smaller
38:59
ones,
38:59
like
38:59
up
38:59
where
38:59
my
39:00
granny
39:00
lived
39:00
in,
39:00
like,
39:00
the
39:00
hills
39:01
of
39:01
Virginia,
39:02
you
39:02
know,
39:02
some
39:02
of
39:02
those
39:02
Pentecostal
39:03
churches
39:03
are
39:03
some
39:04
of
39:04
the
39:04
best
39:04
people
39:04
I
39:05
know
39:05
go
39:05
to
39:05
those.
39:06
So
39:06
no
39:06
diss
39:07
on
39:07
them,
39:08
but
39:08
we
39:08
are
39:09
going
39:09
to
39:09
diss
39:09
churches
39:09
like
39:10
the
39:10
ones
39:10
ran
39:11
by
39:11
the
39:11
gemstones.
39:11
Kevin,
39:13
could
39:13
you
39:13
tell
39:13
us
39:13
a
39:13
little
39:14
bit
39:14
what
39:14
is
39:14
the
39:14
premise
39:14
of
39:15
the
39:15
Righteous
39:15
Gemstone
39:16
show?
39:16
And
39:17
then
39:17
let's
39:17
just
39:18
each
39:18
say
39:18
what
39:18
drew
39:19
us
39:19
into
39:19
the
39:19
show
39:20
as
39:20
Christians.
39:20
Maybe
39:20
people
39:21
are
39:21
surprised
39:21
that
39:21
we
39:21
were
39:21
like,
39:21
we
39:22
want
39:22
to
39:22
watch
39:22
this
39:22
thing
39:22
where
39:23
we're
39:23
talking
39:23
about
39:24
how
39:24
crappy
39:24
the
39:24
church
39:24
is.
39:26
Yeah.
39:26
So
39:26
the
39:26
Righteous
39:27
Gemstones
39:27
follows
39:28
the
39:28
gemstone
39:29
family,
39:30
which
39:30
the
39:30
patriarch
39:31
played
39:31
by
39:31
John
39:32
Goodman
39:32
is
39:32
Eli
39:33
Gemstone.
39:34
He
39:34
is
39:34
a
39:35
really
39:36
famous
39:37
megachurch
39:37
pastor
39:38
in
39:38
South
39:38
Carolina
39:39
that
39:40
has
39:40
been
39:42
built
39:42
kind
39:42
of
39:42
this
39:42
mega
39:43
Church
39:43
empire
39:44
over
39:44
the
39:44
course
39:44
of
39:45
decades.
39:46
He's
39:46
a
39:46
widower.
39:47
His
39:47
wife
39:48
Amy
39:49
Lou
39:49
died
39:49
back
39:50
in
39:51
when
39:51
the
39:51
kids,
39:51
I
39:52
forget
39:52
which
39:52
year
39:53
in
39:53
the
39:53
show,
39:54
but
39:54
when
39:54
the.
39:55
His
39:55
three
39:55
kids
39:56
were
39:56
a
39:56
little
39:56
bit
39:56
younger,
39:57
she
39:58
was
39:58
sick,
39:58
but
39:58
she
39:59
was
39:59
instrumental
40:00
to
40:00
his
40:00
life
40:00
and
40:01
to
40:01
the
40:01
family's
40:02
role.
40:02
And
40:02
then
40:03
he
40:03
has
40:03
three
40:04
adult
40:04
children,
40:05
Jesse
40:06
played
40:06
by
40:06
Danny
40:06
McBride,
40:07
Judy
40:08
played
40:08
by
40:08
Edie
40:08
Patterson,
40:09
and
40:09
Kelvin
40:10
played
40:10
by
40:11
Adam
40:11
Devine.
40:12
And
40:12
each
40:12
of
40:13
them
40:13
have
40:13
their
40:13
own
40:14
immaturities
40:14
and
40:15
their
40:15
own
40:16
wrestling
40:17
conflicts
40:18
internally.
40:19
And,
40:19
but
40:20
the
40:21
knowing
40:22
that
40:22
at
40:22
the
40:22
beginning
40:22
of
40:22
the
40:23
show
40:23
that
40:23
Eli
40:23
is
40:24
getting
40:24
older
40:24
and
40:25
probably
40:25
approaching
40:26
retirement
40:26
at
40:27
some
40:27
point,
40:27
the
40:27
question
40:28
on
40:28
his
40:28
mind
40:29
is,
40:29
you
40:29
know,
40:30
who
40:30
will
40:30
inherit
40:31
his
40:31
megachurch
40:32
empire.
40:33
Much
40:33
in
40:33
the
40:33
same
40:33
way
40:34
that
40:34
you
40:34
have
40:34
like
40:35
HBO
40:35
succession.
40:36
It's
40:36
a
40:37
very
40:37
different
40:37
tone
40:37
here,
40:37
but,
40:38
but
40:38
there
40:39
are,
40:39
you
40:39
know,
40:39
parallels,
40:40
parallels
40:40
to
40:40
that
40:40
show.
40:41
So
40:41
Eli
40:42
is
40:42
the
40:42
head
40:42
patriarch
40:43
of
40:44
this
40:44
mega
40:44
church
40:45
family
40:45
empire
40:46
that
40:47
he
40:47
built
40:47
with
40:47
his
40:48
late
40:48
wife
40:49
Amy
40:50
Lou,
40:50
who
40:50
was
40:51
instrumental
40:51
to
40:52
Eli
40:52
and
40:52
to
40:52
the
40:53
whole
40:53
family.
40:53
And
40:53
they
40:54
have
40:54
three
40:54
now
40:55
adult
40:55
children
40:55
or
40:56
Eli
40:56
has
40:56
them
40:56
now,
40:57
Jesse
40:58
played
40:58
by
40:58
Danny
40:58
McBride,
40:59
Judy
41:00
played
41:00
by
41:00
Edie
41:00
Patterson,
41:01
and
41:01
Kelvin
41:02
played
41:02
by
41:03
Adam
41:03
Devine.
41:03
And
41:04
each
41:04
of
41:04
them
41:04
have
41:05
their
41:05
own
41:05
immature.
41:06
And
41:07
you
41:07
know,
41:07
the
41:07
question
41:08
that
41:08
is
41:09
present
41:09
at
41:09
the
41:09
beginning
41:10
of
41:10
the
41:10
show
41:10
is
41:11
who
41:11
will
41:11
inherit
41:12
the
41:12
empire
41:13
when
41:14
Eli
41:14
retires?
41:16
Because
41:16
it
41:16
kind
41:16
of
41:16
sets
41:17
that
41:17
up
41:17
from
41:17
the
41:17
beginning.
41:18
But
41:19
each
41:19
of
41:19
them
41:19
kind
41:20
of
41:20
have
41:20
their
41:20
own,
41:20
you
41:21
know,
41:21
not
41:21
to
41:21
immaturities,
41:22
but
41:22
also
41:22
scandals.
41:23
And
41:23
in
41:23
the
41:23
pilot
41:24
episode
41:25
there's
41:25
a
41:25
big
41:25
scandal
41:26
involving
41:26
Jesse
41:28
regarding
41:29
a
41:29
sex
41:29
tape
41:29
that
41:30
a
41:30
rival
41:31
is
41:31
threatening
41:32
him
41:32
with.
41:32
And
41:32
so,
41:33
so
41:33
that
41:33
could
41:34
potentially
41:35
bring
41:36
down
41:36
the
41:36
entire
41:37
empire.
41:39
And
41:39
so
41:39
it's
41:40
the,
41:40
you
41:40
know,
41:40
that's
41:40
one
41:41
of
41:41
the
41:41
central
41:41
conflicts
41:42
introduced
41:42
at
41:42
the
41:42
beginning.
41:43
But
41:43
also
41:43
another
41:44
key
41:44
aspect
41:45
of
41:45
the
41:45
show
41:45
is
41:45
that
41:46
it
41:47
plays
41:47
with
41:47
different
41:48
kind
41:48
of
41:48
antagonists
41:49
each
41:49
season
41:50
and
41:51
different
41:51
stories
41:52
that
41:53
all,
41:53
that
41:53
all
41:54
challenge
41:54
the
41:55
notion
41:55
of,
41:56
you
41:56
know,
41:56
how
41:56
can
41:57
the
41:57
gemstones
41:58
live
41:58
on
41:58
and
41:59
will
41:59
their
41:59
legacy
41:59
survive.
42:00
But
42:01
it
42:01
introduces
42:02
kind
42:02
of
42:02
new
42:02
villains,
42:02
new
42:03
conflicts
42:03
each
42:03
season.
42:04
And
42:04
then
42:04
also
42:05
a
42:05
key
42:05
player
42:06
that
42:06
we've
42:07
mentioned
42:07
already
42:08
is
42:08
Uncle
42:09
Baby
42:09
Billy,
42:09
who
42:10
is
42:10
Eli's
42:10
brother
42:11
in
42:11
law.
42:11
He
42:11
was
42:12
Amy
42:13
Lou's
42:13
brother
42:13
played
42:14
by
42:14
Walton
42:14
Goggins.
42:15
And
42:15
he
42:16
also
42:16
has
42:16
a
42:17
key
42:17
role
42:17
playing
42:18
in
42:18
the
42:19
evolution
42:20
of
42:20
the
42:20
gemstone
42:21
church.
42:22
And
42:22
you
42:22
get
42:23
to
42:23
see
42:23
a
42:23
lot
42:23
of
42:24
great,
42:24
you
42:24
know,
42:24
not
42:25
just
42:25
comic
42:25
relief
42:26
with
42:26
them
42:26
but,
42:26
but
42:26
some
42:27
really
42:27
interesting
42:27
arcs
42:28
there
42:28
too.
42:28
So
42:29
that's
42:29
kind
42:29
of
42:29
an
42:29
overview.
42:31
And
42:31
as
42:32
far
42:32
as
42:32
what
42:32
got
42:32
me
42:33
into
42:33
the
42:33
show,
42:34
I
42:35
had
42:35
known
42:35
about
42:35
it
42:35
for
42:36
a
42:36
while.
42:36
I
42:36
wish
42:36
I
42:36
had
42:37
jumped
42:37
on
42:37
it
42:37
sooner.
42:37
I
42:38
only
42:38
started
42:38
watching
42:39
late
42:40
last
42:40
year,
42:40
and
42:41
I
42:41
got
42:41
hooked
42:42
right
42:42
away
42:42
and
42:42
binged
42:43
the
42:43
first
42:43
few
42:43
seasons,
42:44
and
42:44
then
42:44
I
42:44
was
42:44
able
42:45
to
42:45
watch
42:45
the
42:45
final
42:45
season
42:46
live
42:46
as
42:47
it
42:47
aired.
42:48
But,
42:48
yeah,
42:48
I
42:48
had
42:49
heard
42:49
about
42:49
it.
42:49
It
42:49
sounded
42:50
funny.
42:51
And
42:51
I
42:51
had
42:52
known
42:52
Danny
42:52
McBride
42:53
through
42:53
some
42:53
movies.
42:53
Movies.
42:53
And
42:54
then,
42:54
you
42:54
know,
42:55
he
42:55
had
42:55
co
42:55
written
42:56
the
42:56
last
42:57
Halloween
42:58
movie
42:59
saga
43:00
with
43:00
David
43:01
Gordon
43:01
Green,
43:01
who
43:01
was
43:01
another
43:02
collaborator
43:02
on
43:02
this
43:02
show.
43:03
But
43:03
I
43:03
hadn't,
43:04
like,
43:04
delved
43:04
into
43:04
his
43:05
TV
43:05
yet.
43:05
And
43:06
I
43:06
was
43:06
amazed
43:07
from
43:07
the
43:07
beginning
43:08
of
43:08
like,
43:08
oh,
43:09
my
43:09
gosh,
43:09
he's
43:09
such
43:09
a
43:10
good
43:10
writer.
43:10
He's
43:10
such
43:11
a
43:11
good
43:11
filmmaker.
43:12
I
43:12
was
43:12
just
43:13
really
43:13
enamored
43:13
with
43:14
the
43:14
storylines
43:15
here
43:15
and
43:16
the
43:16
Coen
43:16
brothers
43:16
influence
43:17
and
43:18
the
43:18
merging
43:18
of
43:19
comedy,
43:19
horror
43:20
and
43:20
drama
43:20
and
43:21
satire.
43:21
And
43:21
like
43:22
you
43:22
said,
43:22
Josh,
43:22
it's.
43:23
It's
43:23
a.
43:23
Not
43:24
a,
43:24
you
43:24
know,
43:25
takedown
43:26
of
43:27
Christianity
43:28
or
43:28
religion,
43:29
but,
43:30
you
43:30
know,
43:32
you
43:32
know,
43:33
satirizes
43:34
the
43:34
church's
43:35
obsession
43:35
with
43:35
money
43:36
and
43:36
power,
43:36
which
43:36
I
43:36
think
43:37
is
43:37
very
43:37
relevant,
43:37
but
43:38
it
43:38
makes
43:38
sure
43:38
just
43:38
to
43:38
humanize
43:39
the
43:39
characters.
43:40
Yeah,
43:40
yeah,
43:41
yeah,
43:41
yeah,
43:43
yeah.
43:43
For
43:44
myself,
43:46
yeah.
43:46
I
43:47
think
43:47
you're
43:47
good
43:47
with,
43:47
like.
43:47
Like,
43:48
as
43:48
far
43:48
as,
43:48
like,
43:48
the
43:48
premise
43:49
and
43:49
stuff
43:49
goes.
43:50
I
43:50
really
43:50
got
43:51
into
43:51
it.
43:52
I
43:52
was
43:53
bored
43:53
one
43:53
day
43:53
and
43:53
the
43:53
wife
43:54
was
43:54
at
43:54
home
43:54
and
43:54
I
43:54
was
43:55
on
43:55
hbo
43:55
and
43:56
I
43:57
knew
43:57
nothing
43:58
about
43:58
it.
43:58
My
43:58
brain
43:59
was
43:59
like,
43:59
oh,
43:59
this
43:59
is
44:00
going
44:00
to
44:00
be
44:00
the
44:01
absolute
44:01
worst
44:01
preachers
44:02
ever.
44:02
And
44:02
every
44:02
now
44:03
and
44:03
then,
44:03
I
44:03
like
44:03
listening
44:03
to
44:03
stuff
44:04
that
44:04
makes
44:04
me
44:04
mad
44:05
so
44:05
that
44:05
I
44:05
remember
44:05
why
44:06
I
44:07
don't
44:07
want
44:07
to
44:07
be
44:07
like
44:07
other
44:07
people.
44:08
And
44:08
then
44:08
I
44:09
was
44:09
like,
44:09
oh,
44:09
this
44:09
isn't
44:10
televangelist.
44:11
And
44:11
then
44:11
it
44:11
was
44:11
televangelist.
44:12
It
44:12
was
44:12
just
44:12
a
44:12
show
44:12
about
44:12
televangelist.
44:13
And
44:14
it
44:14
was
44:14
comedy.
44:14
And
44:14
I
44:14
was
44:15
like,
44:15
wow,
44:15
this
44:15
is
44:16
not
44:17
the
44:17
kind
44:17
of
44:17
comedy
44:17
I
44:17
usually
44:18
go
44:18
for.
44:19
For
44:19
me,
44:19
it
44:19
feels
44:20
kind
44:20
of
44:20
like
44:21
Will
44:21
Ferrell
44:22
kind
44:22
of
44:22
style
44:23
comedy,
44:23
which
44:23
I
44:23
watch
44:23
almost
44:24
nothing
44:24
with
44:24
him
44:24
in
44:24
it
44:25
on
44:25
as
44:25
much
44:26
as
44:26
I
44:26
can
44:26
help
44:26
it.
44:27
I
44:27
just
44:27
don't
44:27
like
44:27
Will
44:28
Ferrell
44:28
very
44:28
much.
44:29
But
44:31
I
44:31
don't
44:32
know,
44:32
I
44:32
guess
44:32
this
44:32
one.
44:32
Bad
44:33
opinions.
44:33
Yeah,
44:33
yeah,
44:33
Josh
44:34
with
44:34
bad
44:34
opinions.
44:34
But
44:35
this
44:35
one,
44:36
I
44:36
guess
44:36
just
44:36
because
44:36
it
44:36
was
44:36
more
44:36
relevant
44:37
to.
44:37
To
44:37
my
44:37
own
44:38
life,
44:39
which
44:39
is
44:39
funnier
44:40
because
44:40
I'm
44:40
like,
44:40
I.
44:41
I
44:41
get
44:41
it.
44:41
I
44:41
understand
44:41
why
44:42
we're
44:42
making
44:42
fun
44:42
of
44:42
this.
44:44
Yeah.
44:45
Anyway,
44:45
Will,
44:45
what
44:45
about
44:46
you?
44:46
What
44:46
drew
44:46
you
44:46
in?
44:48
Yeah,
44:48
I'm
44:48
a
44:48
big
44:48
Danny
44:49
McBride
44:49
fan.
44:50
I
44:50
like
44:50
him
44:50
on
44:50
Eastbound
44:51
and
44:51
Down.
44:52
Danny
44:52
McBride
44:52
is
44:53
Jesse,
44:53
and
44:53
he's
44:54
kind
44:54
of
44:54
the
44:54
founder
44:54
and
44:54
writer
44:55
of
44:55
the
44:55
show.
44:56
And
44:57
so
44:57
he
44:57
did
44:57
Eastbound
44:58
and
44:58
Down,
44:58
which
44:58
was
44:58
filmed
44:58
down
44:58
in
44:59
Wilmington.
44:59
Fun
44:59
fact.
45:00
He
45:00
lived
45:00
across
45:00
the
45:00
street
45:00
from
45:01
my
45:01
parents
45:01
at
45:01
Wrightsville
45:02
beach
45:02
one
45:02
whole
45:02
summer
45:03
when
45:03
he
45:03
was
45:03
filming
45:04
a
45:04
season
45:04
of
45:04
Eastbound
45:05
Town.
45:05
When
45:06
I
45:06
gave
45:06
him
45:06
a
45:06
head
45:06
nod
45:07
in
45:07
the
45:07
driveway
45:07
one
45:07
day
45:08
when
45:08
I
45:08
was
45:08
walking
45:08
out
45:08
surfing,
45:09
I
45:09
was
45:09
like,
45:09
oh,
45:09
Danny
45:09
McBride,
45:10
what's
45:10
up?
45:11
I
45:11
ignored
45:12
him,
45:12
didn't
45:12
ask
45:12
for
45:12
his
45:13
autograph.
45:13
And
45:14
then
45:14
he
45:14
did
45:14
Vice
45:14
Principals.
45:15
And
45:15
when
45:15
I
45:15
saw
45:15
this
45:15
come
45:15
up
45:16
on
45:16
HBO
45:16
and
45:17
I
45:17
heard
45:17
another
45:17
podcast
45:17
from
45:18
Luther,
45:18
friends
45:19
who
45:19
have
45:19
a
45:19
appreciation
45:20
podcast,
45:21
they
45:21
were
45:21
talking
45:21
about,
45:21
you
45:21
know,
45:22
they
45:22
talk
45:22
about
45:22
what
45:22
they're
45:22
geeking
45:23
out
45:23
on
45:23
a
45:23
little
45:24
before
45:24
they
45:24
get
45:24
into
45:24
the
45:25
text.
45:25
Talked
45:25
about
45:25
righteous
45:26
gemstones
45:26
and
45:26
some
45:26
of
45:27
the
45:27
funny
45:27
moments,
45:27
and
45:27
I
45:27
was
45:27
like,
45:28
ah,
45:28
I
45:28
gotta
45:29
watch
45:29
this,
45:29
and
45:30
dove
45:30
right
45:30
in
45:31
and.
45:31
And
45:31
yeah,
45:32
there
45:32
are
45:32
moments
45:32
when
45:32
it
45:33
is
45:33
kind
45:33
of
45:33
convicting
45:33
and
45:34
you're
45:34
like,
45:34
oh,
45:34
man,
45:34
it's
45:35
cringey.
45:35
I
45:35
hope
45:35
people
45:35
don't
45:36
say,
45:36
you
45:36
know,
45:36
when
45:37
I
45:37
was
45:37
watching
45:37
this
45:37
with
45:37
my
45:38
daughter,
45:38
I
45:38
was
45:38
like,
45:38
I
45:39
just
45:39
want
45:39
to
45:39
remind
45:39
you,
45:39
this
45:39
is
45:40
not
45:40
our
45:40
brand.
45:40
Right.
45:40
And
45:41
she
45:41
goes,
45:41
yeah,
45:41
Dad,
45:41
I
45:42
know.
45:42
And
45:42
I'm
45:42
like,
45:42
okay.
45:43
You
45:43
know,
45:43
so
45:43
I
45:43
get
45:43
a
45:44
little
45:44
protective
45:45
of
45:45
my
45:45
religion
45:45
when
45:46
it
45:46
comes
45:46
to
45:46
that.
45:46
Not
45:46
all
45:46
preachers
45:47
are
45:47
like
45:47
this,
45:47
but.
45:47
But
45:48
I
45:48
get
45:48
the.
45:49
The
45:49
Saturday
45:49
Night
45:49
Live
45:50
skit
45:50
parody,
45:51
what
45:51
they're
45:51
trying
45:52
to
45:52
illustrate
45:52
with
45:53
what's
45:53
going
45:53
on.
45:54
So
45:54
I
45:54
was
45:54
on
45:54
board,
45:55
and
45:55
it
45:55
was
45:55
appointment
45:55
television
45:56
every.
45:56
Every
45:56
Sunday
45:57
night.
45:57
Yeah.
45:58
Because
45:58
I
45:59
know
45:59
you
45:59
have
45:59
to
45:59
leave
45:59
early
45:59
in
46:00
case
46:00
you
46:00
don't
46:00
get
46:00
the
46:00
chance.
46:01
I
46:02
need
46:02
to
46:02
know
46:02
favorite
46:02
character,
46:03
favorite
46:03
scene,
46:04
favorite
46:05
joke,
46:05
favorite
46:05
song,
46:06
because
46:06
you
46:06
have
46:06
a
46:06
lot
46:06
of
46:07
good
46:07
songs
46:07
that
46:07
you
46:07
like
46:07
from
46:07
this.
46:07
Oh,
46:08
my
46:08
gosh.
46:10
All
46:10
right.
46:11
So
46:11
it's
46:11
hard
46:12
for
46:12
me
46:12
not
46:12
to
46:12
pick
46:13
Uncle
46:13
Baby
46:13
Billy
46:14
because
46:14
he
46:14
just
46:14
so
46:14
much.
46:15
He
46:15
lives
46:15
rent
46:15
free
46:15
in
46:15
my
46:15
head.
46:16
I
46:16
quote
46:16
him
46:16
all
46:16
day
46:16
long
46:17
in
46:17
my
46:17
head.
46:17
I
46:17
love
46:17
his
46:18
reels,
46:18
but.
46:19
But.
46:19
But
46:19
kind
46:20
of
46:20
a
46:20
under
46:20
the
46:20
radar,
46:21
kind
46:21
of
46:22
sneaky.
46:22
Great
46:23
character
46:23
for
46:23
me
46:24
on
46:24
the
46:24
show
46:24
is.
46:24
Is
46:25
BJ
46:25
Judy's
46:26
partner.
46:26
And
46:27
he
46:27
is
46:28
so
46:29
funny
46:30
the
46:30
way
46:30
he
46:30
kind
46:30
of
46:30
genuinely
46:31
ask
46:31
questions
46:32
and
46:32
seems
46:32
kind
46:32
of
46:32
innocent,
46:33
and
46:33
he's
46:33
with
46:33
this
46:33
kind
46:34
of
46:34
obnoxious
46:34
person.
46:35
All
46:36
of
46:36
them
46:36
are
46:36
great
46:36
and
46:36
make
46:36
me
46:37
laugh
46:37
and
46:37
have
46:37
great
46:37
moments.
46:38
But
46:38
I
46:38
would
46:38
say
46:39
him
46:39
and.
46:40
And
46:40
that
46:40
season,
46:41
season
46:41
two,
46:41
when
46:41
he
46:42
gets
46:42
baptized
46:43
and
46:43
the
46:44
buildup
46:44
to
46:44
that
46:44
and
46:44
like,
46:45
the
46:45
family
46:45
skepticism
46:46
of
46:46
him
46:46
and
46:46
him
46:47
trying
46:47
to
46:47
be
46:47
like
46:47
a
46:47
part
46:48
of
46:48
the
46:48
family,
46:48
but
46:48
he's
46:48
really
46:48
an
46:49
outsider.
46:49
And
46:50
the.
46:50
And
46:50
the
46:50
fact
46:51
that
46:51
his
46:51
family's
46:52
from
46:52
Asheville,
46:52
North
46:53
Carolina,
46:53
and
46:53
so
46:54
the
46:54
rest
46:54
of
46:54
the
46:54
family's
46:54
skeptical
46:55
towards
46:55
them
46:55
because
46:55
he
46:56
must
46:56
be
46:56
atheists
46:57
or
46:57
Heathens,
46:57
because
46:58
they're
46:58
from
46:58
Asheville,
46:59
North
46:59
Carolina,
46:59
makes
47:00
me
47:00
laugh
47:00
really,
47:00
really
47:01
hard.
47:02
And
47:02
then
47:03
even
47:03
the
47:03
final
47:04
season
47:04
with
47:04
him
47:04
getting
47:04
like
47:05
a
47:05
helper
47:05
monkey
47:05
and
47:06
being
47:06
in
47:06
a
47:06
wheelchair
47:07
because
47:08
he
47:08
fell,
47:09
pole
47:09
dancing
47:10
and
47:10
then
47:11
going
47:11
into
47:11
depression
47:12
because
47:12
the
47:12
family's
47:12
not
47:12
paying
47:13
him
47:13
any
47:13
attention,
47:13
but
47:13
then
47:14
how
47:14
he
47:14
rebounds
47:15
and
47:15
there's
47:15
a
47:16
little
47:16
redemption
47:16
art
47:16
for
47:16
him.
47:17
I.
47:17
I
47:17
just.
47:17
I
47:18
just
47:18
love
47:18
him
47:18
a
47:18
lot,
47:18
so.
47:19
And
47:19
the
47:20
actor.
47:20
The
47:20
actor,
47:21
Tim
47:22
Baltz.
47:22
Is
47:23
that
47:23
how
47:23
you
47:23
say
47:23
Baltz?
47:24
Maybe,
47:24
yeah.
47:25
Liked
47:26
one
47:26
of
47:26
my
47:26
comments
47:26
on
47:27
his
47:27
page.
47:27
He
47:27
posted
47:27
something.
47:27
I
47:28
was
47:28
early
47:28
in
47:28
his.
47:28
In
47:28
his
47:29
chat,
47:29
and.
47:30
And
47:30
he.
47:30
He
47:31
gave
47:31
me
47:31
a
47:31
thumbs
47:32
up
47:32
and
47:32
a
47:32
heart.
47:32
So.
47:33
Yeah.
47:33
Thanks,
47:33
Tim.
47:33
Thanks.
47:34
Favorite
47:34
song,
47:36
Anything
47:37
that
47:38
baby
47:38
Billy
47:39
does,
47:39
that
47:39
whole
47:39
team
47:40
just.
47:40
And
47:40
him
47:40
singing
47:41
that
47:41
song.
47:42
And
47:43
the
47:43
fact
47:43
that
47:43
he
47:44
didn't
47:44
like
47:44
the
47:44
actor
47:44
who's
47:45
playing
47:45
young
47:45
Jesus,
47:46
so
47:46
he's.
47:46
He's
47:46
gonna
47:46
do
47:47
it
47:47
himself.
47:47
And
47:48
he's
47:48
old
47:48
and
47:48
he
47:48
has
47:48
receding
47:49
hairline
47:49
and
47:49
glasses
47:50
and
47:50
still
47:50
plays
47:51
Jesus
47:51
with,
47:51
like,
47:52
these
47:52
big
47:52
gaudy
47:53
rings
47:53
on
47:53
his
47:54
fingers.
47:55
And.
47:55
And
47:56
it's.
47:56
It's
47:57
fantastic.
47:57
It's
47:57
comedy
47:58
called.
47:58
And
47:58
now
47:58
this.
47:59
This
47:59
type
47:59
of
47:59
humor.
48:00
Will
48:00
Ferrell.
48:01
This
48:01
humor
48:01
is
48:02
right
48:02
up
48:02
my
48:02
alley,
48:03
is
48:03
everything
48:03
that
48:03
makes
48:03
me
48:04
laugh.
48:04
So
48:04
there
48:05
you
48:05
go.
48:05
Yeah,
48:05
yeah,
48:05
yeah,
48:06
yeah.
48:06
All
48:06
right.
48:07
Oh,
48:08
man.
48:09
Kevin.
48:10
Kevin.
48:11
Evan.
48:11
What.
48:11
What
48:12
brought
48:12
you
48:12
to
48:12
this
48:13
particular
48:13
series?
48:13
Yeah.
48:16
This
48:16
was
48:19
a
48:20
recommendation
48:20
from
48:21
a
48:21
co
48:21
worker
48:22
of
48:22
mine.
48:22
He
48:23
knew
48:23
that
48:23
I
48:23
was
48:24
a
48:25
church
48:25
guy,
48:25
I
48:26
was
48:26
religious,
48:30
and
48:31
we
48:31
had
48:31
similar
48:32
tastes
48:32
in
48:33
movies
48:33
and
48:33
shows,
48:34
and
48:35
he
48:35
brought
48:35
me
48:36
into
48:37
vice
48:38
principals,
48:39
and
48:39
I
48:39
love
48:39
that
48:40
show.
48:40
And
48:40
he
48:40
goes,
48:41
well,
48:41
they're
48:41
making
48:42
a
48:42
show
48:42
about
48:42
churches.
48:43
And
48:44
I'm
48:44
like,
48:44
really?
48:44
So
48:45
I
48:45
got
48:45
gotten
48:45
into
48:46
it,
48:46
and
48:46
I
48:46
thank
48:47
him
48:47
for.
48:48
For
48:48
doing
48:48
that
48:49
because
48:49
it's
48:49
perfect.
48:50
Like,
48:52
Danny
48:52
McBride
48:53
did
48:53
great,
48:54
and
48:54
his.
48:55
His
48:55
humor
48:56
is
48:56
like.
48:56
Like
48:57
Will
48:57
Ferrell's
48:57
pretty
48:58
much.
48:58
Yeah,
48:59
yeah.
48:59
So.
49:00
But
49:00
yeah,
49:01
I
49:01
thank
49:01
my
49:02
coworker
49:02
for.
49:03
For
49:04
bringing
49:04
me
49:04
onto
49:05
this
49:05
show.
49:05
Yeah,
49:05
yeah,
49:05
yeah.
49:06
I'm
49:06
trying
49:06
to.
49:06
Trying
49:07
to
49:07
get
49:07
my
49:07
wife
49:07
to
49:07
watch,
49:07
because
49:07
as
49:07
much
49:08
as
49:08
she
49:08
doesn't
49:08
care
49:08
about,
49:09
like,
49:09
I
49:09
don't
49:09
think
49:09
she
49:10
would
49:10
care
49:10
about
49:10
the
49:10
particular
49:11
world
49:11
it's
49:12
about,
49:12
but
49:12
it's
49:13
definitely
49:13
her
49:13
kind
49:13
of
49:13
sense
49:14
of
49:14
humor,
49:14
too.
49:16
Yeah,
49:16
yeah,
49:16
yeah.
49:17
Will
49:17
said
49:17
he
49:18
had
49:18
one
49:18
more
49:19
thing
49:19
he
49:20
wanted
49:20
to
49:20
say
49:20
too.
49:20
Right?
49:22
Yeah,
49:22
yeah,
49:22
yeah.
49:23
So
49:23
the
49:24
final
49:24
season,
49:25
I
49:25
loved
49:25
how
49:25
they.
49:26
I
49:26
really
49:26
thought
49:27
that
49:27
they
49:27
could
49:28
have
49:28
wrapped
49:28
up
49:28
with
49:28
season
49:28
three.
49:29
It
49:29
was
49:29
a
49:29
perfect
49:29
ending
49:30
and
49:30
kind
49:31
of
49:31
the
49:31
ghost
49:31
of
49:31
Amy
49:32
Lee,
49:32
like,
49:32
looking
49:32
at
49:33
them
49:33
and
49:33
kind
49:33
of
49:33
being
49:33
proud
49:34
of
49:34
her
49:34
family
49:34
that's
49:35
kind
49:35
of
49:35
come
49:35
together
49:35
through
49:35
adversity
49:36
but
49:37
they
49:37
were
49:37
having
49:37
too
49:37
much
49:37
fun.
49:38
So
49:38
I
49:38
think
49:38
they
49:38
wanted
49:39
to
49:39
do
49:39
one
49:39
final
49:40
season.
49:42
There
49:42
were
49:42
other
49:42
seasons
49:43
and
49:43
scenarios
49:43
I
49:43
liked
49:44
a
49:44
little
49:44
better,
49:44
but.
49:44
But
49:44
I
49:45
thought
49:45
it
49:45
still
49:45
had
49:45
just
49:46
some
49:46
fant
49:46
fantastic
49:47
moments.
49:47
And
49:48
when
49:48
Calvin
49:49
started
49:49
his
49:49
church
49:50
Prism,
49:50
which
49:51
was
49:51
a
49:51
more
49:51
progressive
49:52
example
49:53
of
49:54
a
49:54
megachurch
49:55
and
49:56
kind
49:56
of
49:56
the
49:57
spectrum
49:57
of
49:57
diversity
49:58
and
49:58
human
49:59
sexuality,
50:00
I
50:00
couldn't
50:00
help
50:00
but
50:00
think
50:01
like,
50:01
oh,
50:01
dude,
50:02
that's
50:02
the
50:02
algae
50:02
beer
50:03
camp.
50:03
They're
50:03
parodying
50:04
not
50:04
only
50:04
mega
50:04
churches
50:05
and
50:06
fundamentalism
50:07
and
50:07
scandals
50:08
behind
50:08
those
50:09
things,
50:09
but
50:09
they're
50:09
also
50:09
parroting
50:10
a
50:11
progressive
50:11
church
50:12
and
50:13
some
50:13
of
50:13
the
50:13
things
50:13
that
50:13
were
50:13
going
50:13
on
50:14
there.
50:14
I
50:14
was
50:14
like,
50:14
dude,
50:14
that
50:15
is
50:15
some
50:15
of
50:16
the
50:16
progressive
50:16
Lutheran
50:17
circles.
50:17
That
50:17
is
50:17
some
50:18
of
50:18
theology
50:19
beer
50:19
camp.
50:19
So
50:19
nobody's
50:20
safe.
50:20
Kind
50:20
of
50:20
like
50:20
South
50:21
Park.
50:21
They
50:21
pick
50:21
on
50:21
everybody.
50:22
Nobody
50:22
is
50:22
safe
50:23
from
50:23
their
50:23
parody
50:23
and
50:24
coming
50:24
at
50:24
you.
50:24
So
50:25
kudos
50:26
to
50:26
the
50:26
writers
50:26
who
50:26
understand
50:27
that
50:27
there's
50:28
a
50:28
breadth
50:28
and
50:28
depth
50:28
to
50:29
all
50:29
Christianity,
50:29
not
50:29
just
50:30
one
50:30
archetype
50:31
of
50:31
mega
50:32
churches.
50:32
Yeah,
50:32
yeah,
50:33
yeah.
50:34
I
50:34
want
50:34
to
50:34
say
50:34
on
50:34
that
50:34
before
50:35
we
50:35
move
50:35
along
50:35
with
50:35
the
50:35
outline
50:36
a
50:36
little
50:36
bit,
50:37
because
50:37
it
50:38
is
50:38
something
50:39
that
50:39
interests
50:40
me
50:41
that
50:41
this
50:41
series
50:42
comments
50:42
on
50:44
in
50:44
season
50:44
four.
50:44
You
50:45
see
50:45
it
50:45
with
50:45
Prism
50:46
and
50:46
kind
50:46
of
50:46
the
50:48
more
50:48
LGBTQ
50:49
friendly
50:49
churches.
50:51
Season
50:51
two,
50:51
I
50:51
think
50:52
it
50:52
is
50:52
maybe
50:52
season
50:52
three.
50:53
I
50:53
think
50:53
it
50:53
was
50:53
season
50:53
two,
50:55
Judy,
50:55
with
50:55
women
50:56
in
50:56
ministry
50:56
and
50:57
women
50:57
getting
50:57
more
50:58
of
50:58
a
50:58
voice
50:58
was
50:58
kind
50:58
of
50:58
brought
50:59
up.
51:00
Here's
51:01
what
51:01
I
51:01
thought
51:01
was
51:01
interesting
51:02
about
51:02
the
51:02
commentary
51:02
that
51:03
still
51:03
bothers
51:03
me
51:03
and
51:04
it's
51:04
actually
51:04
what
51:04
kept
51:05
me
51:05
from
51:05
becoming
51:06
more
51:06
progressive
51:06
for
51:06
a
51:06
really
51:07
long
51:07
time.
51:08
You
51:09
do
51:09
have
51:09
a
51:09
lot
51:09
of
51:09
churches
51:10
that
51:10
seem
51:10
like
51:10
they're
51:10
just
51:10
doing
51:11
it
51:11
because
51:11
they
51:11
want
51:11
more
51:11
people
51:11
in
51:12
or
51:12
want
51:12
to
51:12
be
51:12
better
51:12
accepted
51:13
by
51:13
the
51:13
culture.
51:13
And
51:14
I
51:14
think
51:14
that's
51:14
what
51:15
this
51:15
is
51:15
parroting,
51:16
where
51:16
it's
51:16
like,
51:16
oh,
51:17
well,
51:17
if
51:17
we
51:17
have
51:17
more
51:17
women,
51:17
more
51:18
people
51:18
will
51:18
come
51:18
to
51:18
our
51:18
church,
51:19
or
51:19
if
51:19
we
51:20
do
51:20
this
51:20
thing
51:20
that
51:20
the
51:21
culture
51:21
doing
51:21
and
51:21
start
51:21
affirming
51:22
people
51:22
as
51:22
that
51:23
and
51:23
people
51:24
like
51:24
me
51:25
want
51:25
more
51:26
reasoning.
51:27
And
51:27
that's
51:28
kind
51:28
of
51:28
like
51:28
part
51:28
of
51:28
my.
51:29
I
51:29
did
51:30
that
51:30
thing
51:30
where
51:30
I
51:30
over
51:30
corrected
51:31
when
51:31
I
51:31
started
51:31
leaving
51:32
Pentecostalism,
51:32
where
51:32
I
51:33
became
51:33
all
51:33
intellectual.
51:34
Then
51:34
I
51:34
read,
51:34
I
51:35
think
51:35
it
51:35
was
51:35
Francis
51:35
Cheney
51:35
that
51:36
was
51:36
like
51:36
forgotten
51:36
God.
51:36
And
51:36
I'm
51:37
like,
51:37
oh,
51:37
wait
51:37
a
51:37
minute,
51:38
we
51:38
are
51:38
still
51:39
saying
51:39
that
51:39
we
51:39
believe
51:39
that
51:40
the
51:40
living
51:40
God
51:41
that
51:41
created
51:41
the
51:41
universe
51:42
has
51:42
something
51:42
to
51:43
do
51:43
with
51:43
me
51:43
personally.
51:44
It's
51:44
kind
51:44
of
51:44
absurd
51:45
to
51:45
think
51:45
that
51:45
some
51:45
spiritual
51:46
things
51:46
can't
51:46
happen.
51:48
I
51:48
need
51:49
that
51:49
kind
51:49
of
51:49
basis
51:50
where
51:50
it's
51:50
not
51:50
just,
51:51
oh,
51:51
hey,
51:52
this
51:52
is
51:52
what
51:53
the
51:53
world's
51:53
doing
51:53
and
51:53
this
51:53
Seems
51:54
right
51:54
or
51:54
this
51:54
feels
51:55
right.
51:55
Doesn't
51:55
it
51:55
just
51:56
seem
51:56
wrong
51:56
to
51:56
say
51:56
we
51:57
don't
51:57
want
51:57
to
51:57
let
51:57
people
51:58
love
51:58
each
51:58
other,
51:59
but
51:59
you
51:59
get
52:00
some
52:00
strong
52:00
intellectual
52:01
arguments
52:01
from
52:01
like
52:01
Pete
52:02
Inns
52:02
or
52:02
different
52:02
people
52:02
like
52:02
that.
52:03
And
52:03
I'm
52:03
like,
52:03
okay,
52:04
that's
52:04
the
52:04
kind
52:05
of
52:05
stuff
52:05
I
52:05
want.
52:06
One
52:06
of
52:07
the
52:07
people
52:07
I
52:07
respect
52:07
the
52:07
most
52:08
who
52:08
is
52:08
still
52:08
conservative,
52:09
Trumper
52:09
Longman
52:10
iii.
52:11
He
52:11
writes
52:11
a
52:11
book
52:11
like
52:11
about
52:11
Old
52:12
Testament
52:12
controversies
52:13
and
52:13
he
52:13
verbatim
52:14
says,
52:14
I
52:14
want
52:15
to
52:15
support
52:16
same
52:16
sex
52:16
marriage,
52:17
but
52:17
from
52:18
what
52:18
I
52:18
see
52:18
in
52:18
the
52:18
text
52:19
and
52:19
what
52:19
I
52:20
believe
52:20
about
52:20
the
52:20
Bible,
52:20
I
52:21
can't
52:21
make
52:21
this
52:21
make
52:22
sense.
52:22
And
52:23
that's
52:23
where
52:23
I'm
52:23
like,
52:23
I
52:23
disagree
52:24
with
52:24
you,
52:24
but
52:25
he's
52:25
being
52:25
intellectually
52:26
honest.
52:27
And
52:27
that's
52:27
what
52:28
bothers
52:28
me
52:28
about
52:29
a
52:29
lot
52:29
of
52:29
this
52:29
kind
52:29
of
52:30
stuff.
52:30
And
52:30
what
52:30
makes
52:30
the
52:31
show
52:31
really
52:31
complicated
52:33
is
52:33
like
52:33
there's
52:33
some
52:33
points
52:34
where
52:34
they're
52:34
just
52:34
not
52:34
intellectually
52:35
honest
52:35
at
52:35
all.
52:35
They're
52:36
just
52:36
doing
52:36
what
52:36
brings
52:36
more
52:36
people
52:37
in.
52:37
But
52:37
then
52:37
there's
52:37
moments
52:37
where
52:38
you
52:38
see
52:38
their
52:38
personal
52:38
lives
52:39
and
52:39
it
52:40
really
52:40
does
52:40
seem
52:40
like
52:40
they
52:40
have
52:40
to
52:41
believe
52:41
something
52:41
about
52:42
this.
52:43
But
52:44
also
52:44
they're
52:44
able
52:44
to
52:44
change
52:45
their
52:45
beliefs
52:45
in
52:45
order
52:45
to
52:45
make
52:46
more
52:46
money.
52:46
And
52:46
I'm
52:46
like,
52:46
where,
52:47
huh?
52:48
Do
52:48
you
52:48
believe
52:48
it
52:49
or
52:49
do
52:49
you
52:49
not
52:49
believe
52:49
it?
52:49
And
52:49
I
52:50
never
52:50
quite
52:50
figured
52:50
that
52:50
out.
52:52
I
52:53
hear
52:54
you
52:54
100%.
52:54
What
52:55
I
52:55
like
52:55
about
52:55
this
52:55
show
52:56
is
52:56
that
52:56
you
52:56
have
52:56
Jesse's
52:58
kids
52:59
who
52:59
really
53:00
try
53:01
to
53:01
hold
53:01
him
53:02
accountable
53:03
to
53:03
what
53:03
they
53:03
believe.
53:03
They
53:04
see
53:04
the
53:04
ridiculousness
53:05
of
53:05
it.
53:05
So
53:05
you
53:05
have,
53:06
um,
53:06
yeah,
53:07
you
53:07
have
53:08
what
53:08
is.
53:08
Cause
53:08
you
53:08
have
53:09
Gideon
53:09
who
53:09
wants
53:10
to
53:10
be
53:10
an
53:10
actor,
53:10
but
53:10
you
53:11
know,
53:11
he
53:11
genuinely
53:11
wants
53:11
to
53:12
follow
53:12
his,
53:12
his
53:13
granddad
53:13
and
53:13
maybe
53:14
there's
53:14
something
53:14
there
53:14
that
53:15
he
53:15
wants
53:15
to
53:15
become
53:15
like
53:15
a
53:15
legitimate
53:16
pastor.
53:16
His
53:17
dad's
53:17
looking,
53:17
he's
53:18
like,
53:18
hey
53:18
man,
53:18
you're
53:18
a
53:18
horrible
53:18
preacher
53:19
there
53:19
in
53:19
that
53:19
final
53:19
season.
53:20
You
53:20
know,
53:20
you
53:20
gotta
53:21
liven
53:21
this
53:21
up
53:21
a
53:22
little
53:22
bit.
53:22
But
53:22
he's.
53:22
He.
53:23
But
53:23
he
53:23
really
53:23
wants
53:24
to
53:24
be
53:25
like
53:25
a
53:25
genuine
53:25
thing.
53:26
But
53:26
then
53:26
you
53:26
have
53:26
like
53:27
his
53:28
son
53:28
Pontius.
53:28
He
53:29
named
53:29
his
53:29
kid
53:29
Pontius
53:31
is.
53:32
And
53:32
he's
53:32
like
53:32
the
53:33
rebellious
53:33
kid
53:34
who
53:34
really
53:34
looks
53:35
at
53:35
him
53:35
like
53:35
you
53:35
guys
53:35
are
53:36
all
53:36
like
53:36
hypocrites
53:36
and
53:36
wrong
53:37
and
53:37
I
53:37
can't
53:37
stand
53:37
you.
53:38
That
53:38
tension
53:39
of
53:39
the
53:39
children
53:40
looking
53:40
up
53:40
to
53:41
them.
53:41
So
53:41
you
53:41
not
53:41
only
53:41
have
53:41
the
53:42
children,
53:43
Kelvin,
53:44
Jesse
53:45
and
53:45
Judy
53:45
looking
53:45
at
53:46
their
53:46
dad
53:47
and
53:47
critiquing
53:48
him,
53:48
they
53:48
have
53:48
their
53:48
own
53:49
children
53:49
looking
53:50
at
53:50
their
53:50
parents
53:51
and
53:51
going,
53:52
hey,
53:52
what
53:52
are
53:52
you
53:52
doing
53:52
this?
53:53
Why
53:53
are
53:53
you
53:53
doing
53:53
this
53:53
for?
53:53
We
53:54
love
53:54
the
53:54
money,
53:54
we
53:54
love
53:55
the
53:55
attention,
53:55
we
53:55
love
53:55
the
53:55
lifestyle,
53:57
but
53:58
what's
53:58
really
53:58
going
53:58
here
53:59
with
53:59
kind
53:59
of
53:59
the
53:59
authentic
54:00
aspect
54:01
of
54:01
your
54:02
faith
54:02
or
54:02
religion
54:02
here
54:03
and
54:03
call
54:03
them
54:03
hypocrites.
54:04
I
54:04
love
54:04
that
54:04
aspect
54:05
of
54:05
it.
54:05
I
54:05
think
54:05
you're
54:05
right
54:06
that
54:06
being
54:06
honest
54:07
and
54:07
authentic
54:07
about
54:07
it,
54:08
it's
54:09
just
54:09
fantastic.
54:09
Wr.
54:10
Yeah.
54:11
What
54:11
I
54:11
was
54:11
talking
54:11
about
54:11
also
54:12
gets
54:12
to
54:13
something
54:13
Kevin
54:14
mentioned
54:14
that
54:14
he
54:14
loved
54:14
about
54:14
the
54:15
last
54:15
season
54:15
on
54:15
one
54:16
of
54:16
our
54:16
what's
54:16
News
54:16
episodes
54:17
with
54:17
that
54:17
first
54:18
episode.
54:19
And
54:19
that's
54:20
kind
54:20
of
54:20
what's
54:20
interesting
54:21
is
54:21
you
54:21
see
54:21
like
54:21
generation
54:21
for
54:22
generation.
54:22
It
54:22
seems
54:23
like
54:23
the
54:23
gemstone
54:24
started
54:24
off
54:24
as
54:24
like
54:25
this
54:25
guy
54:26
stealing
54:27
someone
54:27
else's
54:27
identity,
54:28
just
54:28
using
54:28
ministry
54:29
to
54:29
make
54:29
money.
54:30
And
54:30
it
54:30
kind
54:30
of
54:31
feels
54:31
like
54:31
they
54:31
keep
54:31
doing
54:32
that
54:32
generation
54:32
to
54:32
generation,
54:33
but
54:33
they're
54:33
also
54:33
maybe
54:34
gaslighting
54:35
themselves
54:35
into
54:35
actually
54:35
believing
54:36
it
54:36
at
54:36
the
54:36
same
54:36
time.
54:38
And
54:38
it's
54:38
so
54:38
like
54:39
what,
54:39
do
54:40
you
54:40
believe
54:40
it?
54:40
Do
54:40
you
54:40
not
54:40
believe
54:41
it?
54:41
I
54:41
don't
54:41
think
54:41
they
54:41
know.
54:42
I
54:42
really
54:42
don't
54:42
think
54:43
they
54:43
even
54:43
know
54:43
if
54:43
they
54:43
really
54:44
believe
54:44
this
54:44
or
54:44
not,
54:45
which
54:45
is
54:46
fair.
54:46
You
54:46
know,
54:46
a
54:46
lot
54:46
of
54:46
times
54:46
in
54:47
my
54:47
own
54:47
Christianity,
54:47
you
54:47
know,
54:48
I
54:48
don't
54:48
do
54:48
it
54:48
for
54:48
money.
54:48
I
54:49
don't
54:49
make
54:49
no
54:49
money.
54:49
I
54:50
still
54:50
am
54:50
like,
54:50
do
54:50
I
54:50
actually
54:51
believe
54:51
this?
54:51
I.
54:52
I'm
54:53
not
54:53
sure.
54:53
Sometimes,
54:53
you
54:54
know.
54:55
Yeah.
55:40
Again,
55:40
I
55:41
think
55:41
that's
55:41
what
55:41
separates
55:42
the
55:42
show
55:42
from
55:42
making
55:42
it,
55:43
you
55:43
know,
55:43
turning
55:44
the
55:44
characters
55:44
into
55:44
characters.
55:45
They
55:45
really
55:46
explore
55:46
the
55:47
depth
55:03
there.
55:47
So
55:47
yeah,
55:48
like
55:48
Bradley
55:48
Cooper's
55:49
character
55:49
is
55:49
a
55:49
great
55:49
example
55:50
as
55:51
the
55:52
original
55:52
patriarch
55:54
Elijah
55:54
Gemstone
55:55
in
55:55
the
55:55
Civil
55:56
War
55:56
era.
55:56
Yeah,
55:57
he's
55:57
just
55:57
doing
55:57
it
55:57
for
55:57
money.
55:58
He,
55:58
you
55:58
know,
55:58
steals
55:59
already
55:59
corrupt
56:00
creatures
56:00
identity
56:02
and
56:02
you
56:02
know,
56:02
has
56:02
no
56:02
idea
56:03
what
56:03
he's
56:03
doing.
56:03
But
56:04
then
56:04
he
56:05
starts
56:05
to
56:06
really
56:06
explore,
56:07
you
56:08
know,
56:08
the
56:08
end,
56:09
feels
56:09
a
56:10
spiritual
56:10
connection
56:11
there
56:12
and
56:12
has
56:12
that
56:12
prayer
56:13
moment
56:14
with
56:14
the
56:15
soldiers
56:16
who
56:16
are
56:16
about
56:16
to
56:16
be
56:16
executed.
56:17
And
56:17
you
56:18
know,
56:18
it
56:18
has
56:18
this
56:19
really
56:19
fascinating
56:19
character
56:20
dynamic.
56:20
And
56:20
yeah,
56:21
I.
56:21
Joshua,
56:22
I
56:22
think
56:22
that's
56:22
absolutely
56:23
true
56:23
is
56:24
it
56:24
points
56:25
to
56:25
something
56:26
of
56:26
even
56:26
the
56:27
most
56:27
devout
56:28
people
56:28
of
56:28
faith
56:29
are
56:29
still
56:29
going
56:30
to
56:30
have
56:30
doubts
56:30
and
56:30
are
56:31
still
56:31
going
56:31
to
56:31
have
56:31
internal
56:32
struggles
56:32
that.
56:33
I
56:33
really
56:33
like
56:33
how
56:34
the
56:34
show
56:34
explores
56:34
that.
56:35
Yeah,
56:35
no,
56:35
it's
56:35
interesting
56:36
stuff.
56:37
All
56:37
right,
56:37
Will's
56:38
already
56:38
done
56:38
this
56:38
bit
56:39
so
56:39
I'm
56:39
going
56:39
to
56:39
throw
56:39
it
56:39
to
56:39
Evan
56:40
first
56:42
who
56:42
if
56:42
you
56:42
had
56:43
to
56:43
pick
56:43
one
56:43
character.
56:44
Because
56:44
the
56:44
thing
56:44
about
56:44
the
56:45
show
56:45
is
56:45
to
56:45
me
56:45
it's
56:46
less
56:46
about
56:46
the
56:46
overall
56:46
story
56:47
and
56:47
more
56:47
about
56:47
each
56:48
individual
56:48
character.
56:49
Like
56:49
it
56:49
does
56:49
a
56:49
really
56:50
good
56:50
job
56:50
at
56:50
character
56:50
building.
56:51
Evan,
56:52
if
56:52
you
56:52
had
56:52
to
56:52
pick
56:52
one
56:52
character
56:53
that
56:53
you
56:53
were
56:53
like
56:54
their
56:54
character
56:55
arc
56:55
was
56:55
the
56:55
best
56:55
character
56:56
arc,
56:56
who
56:57
would
56:57
you
56:57
go
56:57
with?
56:58
The
56:59
best
56:59
character
57:00
arc
57:01
as
57:01
opposed
57:01
to
57:01
my
57:02
favorite
57:02
character
57:02
arc?
57:03
Because
57:03
those
57:03
are
57:03
two
57:04
things.
57:04
Whatever
57:05
feels
57:05
best
57:05
in
57:06
your
57:06
heart.
57:06
Let
57:07
the
57:07
spirit
57:07
guide
57:07
you.
57:07
I
57:07
don't
57:08
know.
57:09
Yeah.
57:10
A
57:10
part
57:10
of
57:10
me,
57:11
like,
57:11
there
57:12
were
57:12
so
57:12
many
57:12
times
57:13
where
57:13
I
57:13
related
57:14
to.
57:15
To
57:16
John
57:16
Goodman,
57:17
to.
57:17
Oh,
57:17
what's
57:17
his
57:18
name?
57:18
Shoot.
57:19
Eli.
57:20
Eli.
57:22
Where
57:22
the
57:22
fact
57:23
of,
57:23
like,
57:24
his
57:24
kids
57:25
are
57:25
just
57:25
so
57:25
ridiculous.
57:26
His
57:26
kids
57:27
are
57:27
just.
57:28
On
57:28
a
57:28
personal
57:28
level,
57:29
they're
57:29
kind
57:30
of.
57:30
They're.
57:31
Yeah,
57:31
they're
57:32
gross.
57:32
They're
57:33
bad
57:33
people.
57:35
But
57:35
it's
57:35
like.
57:36
And
57:37
that
57:37
went
57:37
with
57:37
me,
57:38
too,
57:38
because
57:39
I
57:40
felt
57:40
for
57:40
him,
57:40
because
57:41
that's
57:41
kind
57:42
of
57:42
out
57:42
of
57:42
his
57:42
control.
57:42
Like,
57:44
sometimes
57:44
his
57:45
kids
57:45
are
57:46
not
57:47
put
57:47
out
57:47
the
57:47
best
57:48
representation
57:49
of
57:49
you,
57:49
and
57:49
he
57:49
didn't
57:50
have
57:50
the
57:50
best
57:51
past.
57:52
But
57:53
sometimes
57:54
I
57:54
think
57:54
about
57:54
that,
57:55
like,
57:55
what
57:56
if
57:56
my
57:56
kid
57:57
becomes,
57:57
like,
57:58
worship
57:59
pastor
57:59
and
58:00
does
58:01
all
58:01
this,
58:01
too?
58:01
Like,
58:01
well,
58:02
what
58:03
will
58:03
I
58:03
think?
58:03
And
58:04
that
58:04
kind
58:05
of
58:05
put
58:05
me
58:05
in
58:07
a
58:07
situation
58:08
there.
58:09
But
58:09
the.
58:11
I
58:11
don't
58:11
know.
58:11
They
58:12
were
58:12
just.
58:12
All
58:12
of
58:13
them
58:13
were
58:13
great.
58:15
I
58:15
love
58:16
baby
58:16
Billy.
58:17
He
58:17
was
58:18
the
58:19
perfect
58:19
blend
58:19
of
58:22
Billy
58:22
Graham,
58:24
a
58:24
Benny
58:24
Hinn,
58:25
and
58:26
just
58:27
that
58:27
perfection
58:27
of
58:28
that
58:28
whole
58:30
scene
58:30
of
58:31
pastors.
58:32
Yeah.
58:33
Yeah.
58:33
Oh,
58:34
man.
58:35
Yeah.
58:35
It's.
58:36
It
58:36
is
58:36
difficult
58:36
to
58:37
pick
58:37
a
58:37
favorite.
58:38
I
58:38
will
58:38
say
58:38
that
58:39
I
58:39
can
58:39
confidently
58:39
say
58:39
I
58:40
was
58:40
never
58:40
gonna
58:40
pick
58:40
Billy
58:41
as
58:41
my
58:42
favorite.
58:42
I
58:43
didn't
58:43
necessarily
58:44
dislike
58:44
him.
58:44
It
58:44
was
58:44
just
58:45
like
58:45
everybody
58:45
else
58:45
for
58:45
me,
58:46
just
58:46
stood
58:46
out
58:46
more.
58:47
I
58:47
feel
58:47
like
58:47
I
58:47
could
58:47
have
58:47
done
58:47
without
58:48
his
58:48
bit
58:48
and
58:49
been
58:49
fine.
58:50
Although
58:50
I
58:50
love
58:51
that
58:51
season
58:51
four,
58:51
they
58:51
were
58:51
like,
58:52
by
58:52
the
58:52
way,
58:52
he
58:52
also
58:52
has
58:52
a
58:52
Tesla
58:53
truck,
58:53
because
58:53
of
58:53
course
58:54
he
58:54
would,
58:54
right?
58:55
Oh,
58:55
yeah.
58:57
But
58:57
no,
58:57
I.
58:58
Man,
58:59
I
58:59
love
58:59
Judy
59:00
and
59:00
BJ
59:00
and
59:01
how
59:01
they,
59:01
like,
59:01
they
59:01
get
59:02
divorced
59:02
in
59:02
season
59:02
one
59:02
and,
59:03
like,
59:03
how
59:03
they
59:03
come
59:03
back
59:03
and
59:04
how
59:04
she
59:04
even
59:05
gets
59:05
to
59:05
a
59:05
point
59:05
where,
59:05
like,
59:06
the
59:06
monkey,
59:06
she
59:06
gets
59:06
jealous
59:07
of
59:07
that.
59:07
She's
59:07
like.
59:07
Actually,
59:10
I
59:10
think
59:11
you
59:11
see
59:11
a
59:11
lot
59:11
of
59:11
character
59:11
growth
59:12
with
59:12
Judy.
59:13
Yes,
59:14
true.
59:14
Dr.
59:14
Watson.
59:15
Yeah,
59:15
Dr.
59:15
Watson.
59:18
And
59:18
like
59:18
you
59:18
said,
59:18
Eli's
59:19
a
59:19
good
59:19
one,
59:19
too.
59:20
And
59:20
a
59:20
lot
59:20
of
59:20
this
59:21
reminds
59:21
me
59:21
of
59:21
the
59:21
boys
59:22
in
59:22
a
59:22
way
59:22
where,
59:22
like,
59:22
you
59:22
know,
59:23
it's
59:23
showing
59:23
that
59:24
power
59:24
corrupts.
59:25
Absolute
59:25
power
59:25
corrupts
59:26
absolutely.
59:27
So
59:27
even
59:27
if
59:27
you're
59:27
growing
59:28
up
59:28
Christian
59:28
and
59:28
you
59:29
have
59:29
all
59:29
this
59:29
wealth
59:29
and
59:29
ability
59:30
to
59:30
control
59:30
things,
59:31
and
59:31
if
59:31
part
59:31
of
59:32
your
59:32
control
59:32
is
59:32
people
59:32
think
59:32
you're
59:33
a
59:33
spiritual
59:33
authority,
59:34
it
59:35
just
59:35
kind
59:35
of
59:35
compounds.
59:35
And
59:36
you
59:36
see
59:36
that
59:36
it
59:36
does
59:37
corrupt
59:37
this
59:37
whole
59:38
family,
59:38
it
59:38
seems
59:38
like.
59:39
And
59:39
I
59:39
think
59:39
that's
59:40
another
59:40
comment
59:40
that
59:40
the
59:40
show's
59:41
kind
59:41
of
59:41
doing.
59:41
But
59:42
if
59:43
I
59:43
had
59:43
to
59:43
just
59:43
pick
59:43
one
59:45
again,
59:45
I
59:45
do.
59:45
I
59:46
love
59:46
how
59:46
Eli
59:46
finally
59:47
gets
59:47
to
59:47
a
59:47
point
59:47
in
59:47
his
59:47
life
59:47
where
59:48
he's
59:48
like,
59:48
I
59:49
don't
59:49
need
59:49
this.
59:49
I
59:49
just
59:50
want
59:50
to
59:50
be
59:50
on
59:50
a
59:50
boat.
59:51
And
59:51
I'm
59:51
like,
59:51
I
59:51
get
59:52
it,
59:52
man.
59:54
But
59:56
in
59:56
hopes
59:56
that
59:57
Kevin
59:57
says
59:57
Kelvin
59:58
because
59:59
everybody
59:59
else
59:59
said
59:59
baby
1:00:00
Billy.
1:00:00
I'm
1:00:00
gonna
1:00:00
hope
1:00:00
that
1:00:01
Kevin
1:00:01
says
1:00:01
Kelvin
1:00:02
so
1:00:02
that
1:00:02
I
1:00:02
can
1:00:03
say
1:00:03
Gideon
1:00:06
story,
1:00:06
man,
1:00:06
where
1:00:07
he
1:00:07
starts
1:00:07
off
1:00:07
and
1:00:07
he's,
1:00:07
like,
1:00:08
estranged
1:00:08
from
1:00:09
the
1:00:09
family.
1:00:09
He
1:00:09
ran
1:00:10
off
1:00:10
because
1:00:10
he's
1:00:10
gonna
1:00:10
go
1:00:10
become,
1:00:11
like,
1:00:11
a
1:00:11
stunt
1:00:11
performer
1:00:12
in
1:00:12
Hollywood.
1:00:12
And,
1:00:13
like,
1:00:14
it
1:00:14
turns
1:00:14
out
1:00:15
in
1:00:15
season
1:00:15
one
1:00:15
that
1:00:15
he's
1:00:15
actually
1:00:16
part
1:00:16
of
1:00:16
this
1:00:18
conspiracy
1:00:18
that's
1:00:18
gonna
1:00:19
undermine
1:00:19
the
1:00:19
family,
1:00:20
and
1:00:20
he's
1:00:20
gonna
1:00:20
steal
1:00:21
from
1:00:21
his
1:00:21
own
1:00:21
grandfather
1:00:22
all
1:00:22
this
1:00:22
stuff,
1:00:22
and
1:00:23
then
1:00:23
gets
1:00:24
to
1:00:24
a
1:00:24
point
1:00:24
where
1:00:25
he
1:00:25
goes
1:00:25
to
1:00:25
Haiti
1:00:26
with
1:00:26
his
1:00:26
dad
1:00:26
and
1:00:26
he
1:00:26
does
1:00:27
a
1:00:27
mission.
1:00:27
And
1:00:27
it
1:00:27
doesn't
1:00:27
seem
1:00:28
like
1:00:28
it
1:00:28
affects
1:00:28
Jesse
1:00:29
at
1:00:29
all,
1:00:29
but
1:00:30
for
1:00:30
Gideon,
1:00:31
I
1:00:31
think
1:00:31
something
1:00:31
changes
1:00:31
on
1:00:32
that
1:00:32
mission
1:00:32
trip.
1:00:32
And
1:00:32
then
1:00:32
you
1:00:32
see
1:00:33
throughout
1:00:33
the
1:00:33
season,
1:00:33
he
1:00:33
just
1:00:34
kind
1:00:34
of
1:00:34
grows
1:00:34
very
1:00:35
gradually.
1:00:35
And
1:00:36
then
1:00:36
in
1:00:36
that
1:00:36
last
1:00:36
season,
1:00:37
he's
1:00:37
trying
1:00:38
to
1:00:38
be
1:00:38
more
1:00:38
like
1:00:38
his
1:00:38
grandfather.
1:00:39
And
1:00:39
what's
1:00:39
so
1:00:39
interesting
1:00:40
with
1:00:40
his
1:00:40
character
1:00:40
is,
1:00:41
like,
1:00:41
he's
1:00:41
teaching
1:00:41
and
1:00:42
it's
1:00:42
boring,
1:00:42
but
1:00:43
I'm
1:00:43
like,
1:00:44
but
1:00:44
he's
1:00:44
actually
1:00:44
doing
1:00:45
the
1:00:45
version
1:00:45
of
1:00:45
this
1:00:45
that
1:00:46
you.
1:00:46
That
1:00:46
should
1:00:46
be
1:00:46
done.
1:00:47
I
1:00:47
think
1:00:47
you
1:00:48
do
1:00:48
that,
1:00:48
like,
1:00:48
15,
1:00:49
20
1:00:49
minute
1:00:49
homily.
1:00:50
Let's
1:00:50
care
1:00:50
about
1:00:50
the
1:00:50
sacraments.
1:00:51
I'm
1:00:51
like,
1:00:51
I
1:00:52
don't
1:00:52
know.
1:00:52
I
1:00:52
liked
1:00:53
Gideon's
1:00:53
story
1:00:53
arc,
1:00:53
and
1:00:54
I
1:00:54
honestly
1:00:55
like
1:00:55
his
1:00:55
preaching
1:00:56
the
1:00:56
best.
1:00:56
Just
1:00:57
gotta
1:00:57
say
1:00:57
it,
1:00:57
man.
1:00:58
It
1:00:58
doesn't
1:00:58
need
1:00:58
to
1:00:58
be
1:00:58
showy.
1:00:59
Just
1:00:59
teach
1:01:00
what's
1:01:00
there,
1:01:00
dude.
1:01:02
Yeah.
1:01:02
So
1:01:03
I'm
1:01:03
also
1:01:03
very
1:01:03
excited
1:01:04
for
1:01:04
that
1:01:04
actor
1:01:05
to
1:01:05
play
1:01:05
Jimmy
1:01:06
Olsen.
1:01:06
Olsen.
1:01:07
Yeah,
1:01:07
that's
1:01:07
right.
1:01:07
Is
1:01:08
he
1:01:08
Jimmy
1:01:08
Olsen?
1:01:09
Yes.
1:01:10
Fantastic.
1:01:11
Yeah.
1:01:12
That's
1:01:12
great.
1:01:12
Yeah,
1:01:12
that's
1:01:13
wonderful.
1:01:13
Yeah.
1:01:14
All
1:01:14
right,
1:01:14
Kevin,
1:01:15
please
1:01:15
say,
1:01:15
Kelvin,
1:01:15
what's
1:01:16
your
1:01:16
favorite?
1:01:16
What
1:01:17
character?
1:01:17
Arc?
1:01:18
No,
1:01:19
definitely.
1:01:19
I
1:01:20
mean,
1:01:20
I
1:01:20
think
1:01:20
we
1:01:20
all
1:01:20
love
1:01:20
Baby
1:01:21
Billy
1:01:21
for,
1:01:22
you
1:01:22
know,
1:01:22
the
1:01:22
comedic
1:01:23
relay
1:01:23
and
1:01:23
Wal
1:01:23
Goga's
1:01:24
performance.
1:01:24
But
1:01:24
as
1:01:24
far
1:01:25
as
1:01:25
the
1:01:25
character
1:01:25
who
1:01:25
I
1:01:25
related
1:01:26
to
1:01:26
the
1:01:26
most,
1:01:26
like,
1:01:27
not
1:01:27
only
1:01:27
because
1:01:27
his
1:01:28
name
1:01:28
is
1:01:28
one
1:01:28
letter
1:01:29
away
1:01:29
from
1:01:29
me,
1:01:29
but,
1:01:29
like.
1:01:30
But
1:01:31
I'm
1:01:31
the
1:01:31
youngest
1:01:31
of.
1:01:32
Of
1:01:32
three,
1:01:32
and
1:01:32
I
1:01:32
also
1:01:32
have
1:01:33
an
1:01:33
older
1:01:33
brother
1:01:33
and
1:01:33
sister.
1:01:34
And,
1:01:34
like,
1:01:34
you
1:01:35
know,
1:01:35
I
1:01:35
mean,
1:01:36
Kelvin's
1:01:36
arc
1:01:37
and,
1:01:37
you
1:01:37
know,
1:01:38
just
1:01:38
like.
1:01:38
Like,
1:01:38
I
1:01:39
come
1:01:39
from
1:01:39
a
1:01:39
family
1:01:39
where
1:01:40
I
1:01:40
Very
1:01:40
close
1:01:40
to
1:01:40
my
1:01:40
family
1:01:41
and
1:01:41
everything,
1:01:41
but,
1:01:41
like,
1:01:41
you
1:01:42
know,
1:01:42
like,
1:01:42
a
1:01:42
lot
1:01:43
of
1:01:43
them
1:01:43
are,
1:01:43
like,
1:01:43
sports
1:01:44
enthusiasts,
1:01:44
particularly
1:01:45
my
1:01:45
dad
1:01:45
and
1:01:45
brother,
1:01:45
and
1:01:46
I'm
1:01:46
not
1:01:46
at
1:01:46
all.
1:01:46
I
1:01:46
always
1:01:47
had,
1:01:47
like,
1:01:47
geeky,
1:01:48
you
1:01:48
know,
1:01:48
theater
1:01:49
and
1:01:49
movie
1:01:49
and
1:01:49
comic
1:01:50
interests
1:01:50
and
1:01:50
stuff
1:01:50
like
1:01:51
that
1:01:51
that
1:01:51
make
1:01:51
it
1:01:51
kind
1:01:51
of
1:01:52
my
1:01:52
own.
1:01:52
So
1:01:52
I
1:01:52
related
1:01:52
to
1:01:53
that
1:01:53
a
1:01:53
lot.
1:01:53
But
1:01:53
I
1:01:54
also
1:01:54
really
1:01:54
like
1:01:54
Kelvin's
1:01:55
arc
1:01:55
of,
1:01:56
okay,
1:01:56
you're
1:01:56
introduced
1:01:57
to
1:01:57
him.
1:01:57
Him
1:01:57
and
1:01:58
Keith
1:01:58
at
1:01:58
the
1:01:59
beginning
1:01:59
of
1:01:59
the
1:01:59
series,
1:01:59
and
1:02:00
you're
1:02:00
like,
1:02:00
okay,
1:02:01
are
1:02:01
they
1:02:01
lovers?
1:02:02
Are
1:02:02
they,
1:02:02
like,
1:02:02
what's
1:02:02
kind
1:02:03
of
1:02:03
gone,
1:02:03
you
1:02:03
know,
1:02:03
like,
1:02:03
this
1:02:03
guy?
1:02:04
And
1:02:04
then
1:02:05
it's
1:02:05
a
1:02:05
fat.
1:02:05
Like,
1:02:06
this
1:02:06
was
1:02:06
one
1:02:06
of
1:02:06
the
1:02:06
more
1:02:07
fascinating,
1:02:07
like,
1:02:08
you
1:02:08
know,
1:02:10
mysteries
1:02:10
revealed
1:02:11
in
1:02:12
season
1:02:12
four,
1:02:13
when
1:02:13
they
1:02:13
do
1:02:14
the
1:02:14
Young
1:02:14
Gemstones
1:02:14
episode
1:02:15
there,
1:02:16
where
1:02:16
you
1:02:16
learn
1:02:17
that.
1:02:17
So,
1:02:18
I
1:02:18
mean,
1:02:18
yeah,
1:02:18
he
1:02:19
was
1:02:19
always.
1:02:20
I
1:02:20
mean,
1:02:20
he,
1:02:20
like,
1:02:21
he
1:02:21
was
1:02:21
aware
1:02:21
of
1:02:21
his
1:02:22
sexuality
1:02:22
early
1:02:22
on,
1:02:23
but
1:02:24
what
1:02:25
kind
1:02:25
of
1:02:25
scared
1:02:25
him
1:02:26
away
1:02:26
was
1:02:26
this
1:02:27
arc
1:02:27
involving
1:02:28
Michael
1:02:29
Rooker's
1:02:29
character,
1:02:29
who
1:02:30
was.
1:02:31
Became
1:02:31
a
1:02:31
rival
1:02:31
of
1:02:32
Eli,
1:02:32
and
1:02:32
he
1:02:34
wore
1:02:34
a
1:02:34
mask,
1:02:35
broke
1:02:35
into
1:02:35
their
1:02:35
house.
1:02:36
And
1:02:36
this
1:02:36
is
1:02:36
one
1:02:37
night
1:02:37
where
1:02:37
Kelvin
1:02:37
had
1:02:37
stayed
1:02:38
home
1:02:38
while
1:02:38
the
1:02:38
other
1:02:38
kids
1:02:39
go
1:02:39
out
1:02:39
to
1:02:40
dinner.
1:02:40
And
1:02:41
so.
1:02:41
And
1:02:42
while
1:02:42
he's
1:02:42
looking
1:02:42
at
1:02:43
magazines
1:02:43
and
1:02:43
stuff.
1:02:43
And
1:02:44
while.
1:02:44
Which
1:02:44
I.
1:02:45
I
1:02:45
thought
1:02:45
the
1:02:45
best
1:02:45
part
1:02:46
was,
1:02:46
like,
1:02:46
he's
1:02:46
reading
1:02:47
a
1:02:47
magazine
1:02:47
that
1:02:48
said,
1:02:48
like,
1:02:49
seven
1:02:49
More
1:02:49
reasons
1:02:50
to
1:02:50
Love
1:02:50
Hayden.
1:02:51
And
1:02:51
I
1:02:51
was
1:02:51
like.
1:02:51
Like,
1:02:52
I
1:02:53
was
1:02:53
like,
1:02:53
I
1:02:53
was
1:02:53
dying
1:02:54
there,
1:02:55
but
1:02:56
that
1:02:56
was
1:02:56
awesome.
1:02:57
But,
1:02:57
like.
1:02:57
But
1:02:57
it's
1:02:58
like,
1:02:58
okay,
1:02:59
he.
1:03:00
And
1:03:00
then
1:03:00
this,
1:03:00
like,
1:03:01
strange,
1:03:01
you
1:03:01
know,
1:03:01
masked
1:03:02
man
1:03:02
breaks
1:03:02
into
1:03:02
their
1:03:02
house
1:03:03
and
1:03:03
scares
1:03:04
the
1:03:04
crap
1:03:04
out
1:03:04
of
1:03:05
them.
1:03:05
And
1:03:05
he's
1:03:06
thinking,
1:03:06
like,
1:03:07
oh,
1:03:07
I'm
1:03:07
literally
1:03:08
having,
1:03:08
like,
1:03:08
a
1:03:09
demon
1:03:09
come
1:03:09
into
1:03:10
my
1:03:10
house
1:03:10
because
1:03:11
of
1:03:11
my
1:03:11
sexuality.
1:03:11
And
1:03:12
that's
1:03:12
why
1:03:12
he
1:03:12
was,
1:03:12
like,
1:03:13
repressed
1:03:13
for
1:03:13
so
1:03:13
long.
1:03:14
Um,
1:03:15
and
1:03:15
I
1:03:15
was
1:03:15
like,
1:03:15
oh,
1:03:16
whoa.
1:03:16
That
1:03:16
is
1:03:17
a,
1:03:17
like,
1:03:17
really
1:03:18
brilliant,
1:03:18
like,
1:03:19
story
1:03:19
time.
1:03:19
I
1:03:19
mean,
1:03:19
not
1:03:20
as
1:03:20
a
1:03:20
plot
1:03:20
device,
1:03:20
but
1:03:20
it's
1:03:21
just,
1:03:21
like,
1:03:21
it
1:03:21
adds
1:03:21
more
1:03:22
depth
1:03:22
to
1:03:22
his
1:03:22
character
1:03:23
and
1:03:23
makes
1:03:23
sense
1:03:24
for
1:03:24
a
1:03:24
lot.
1:03:24
And
1:03:24
so
1:03:24
that's
1:03:25
why,
1:03:25
you
1:03:25
know,
1:03:25
him
1:03:26
and
1:03:26
Keith
1:03:26
kind
1:03:26
of
1:03:26
have
1:03:26
this,
1:03:27
like,
1:03:27
closeted
1:03:27
relationship
1:03:28
for
1:03:28
a
1:03:28
long
1:03:28
time.
1:03:28
And,
1:03:29
you
1:03:29
know,
1:03:29
he
1:03:29
comes
1:03:30
more
1:03:30
to
1:03:30
explore
1:03:31
his
1:03:31
identity,
1:03:31
and
1:03:32
it's
1:03:32
not.
1:03:32
It's
1:03:33
about
1:03:33
sexuality.
1:03:33
But
1:03:34
also,
1:03:34
like,
1:03:34
his
1:03:35
dad,
1:03:35
he's
1:03:35
the
1:03:35
kind
1:03:36
of,
1:03:36
like,
1:03:37
trying
1:03:37
to
1:03:38
prove
1:03:38
himself
1:03:39
of.
1:03:39
Worthy
1:03:40
to
1:03:40
be
1:03:40
a
1:03:40
part
1:03:41
of,
1:03:41
like,
1:03:41
his
1:03:42
family's
1:03:42
legacy
1:03:43
and
1:03:43
that
1:03:43
he
1:03:43
has
1:03:44
talents
1:03:44
and
1:03:44
stuff.
1:03:44
And,
1:03:45
you
1:03:45
know,
1:03:45
he's
1:03:45
like
1:03:45
the
1:03:46
hippie
1:03:46
youth
1:03:46
pastor.
1:03:47
And
1:03:48
it
1:03:48
started
1:03:48
all
1:03:48
this
1:03:48
progressive
1:03:49
stuff,
1:03:49
but.
1:03:49
But
1:03:49
when
1:03:49
he
1:03:50
becomes
1:03:50
top
1:03:50
Christ
1:03:51
following
1:03:51
man,
1:03:51
which,
1:03:51
again,
1:03:52
is
1:03:53
like,
1:03:54
out
1:03:54
of
1:03:54
all
1:03:54
the
1:03:55
plot
1:03:55
lines
1:03:55
that
1:03:55
they
1:03:55
came
1:03:56
up
1:03:56
with
1:03:56
this
1:03:56
show,
1:03:56
it's
1:03:57
one
1:03:57
of
1:03:57
the
1:03:57
most
1:03:57
absurd.
1:03:58
But
1:03:58
I
1:03:58
was
1:03:59
dying
1:03:59
laughing
1:04:00
when
1:04:00
that.
1:04:01
When
1:04:01
they.
1:04:02
They
1:04:02
have
1:04:02
an
1:04:02
award
1:04:02
ceremony
1:04:03
and
1:04:03
everything.
1:04:04
Yeah,
1:04:05
I
1:04:05
love
1:04:05
Galvan's
1:04:05
arc.
1:04:06
I
1:04:06
think
1:04:06
Adam
1:04:06
Devine
1:04:06
gives
1:04:07
great
1:04:07
performance.
1:04:08
And,
1:04:09
yeah,
1:04:09
there's
1:04:09
just.
1:04:10
There's
1:04:10
so
1:04:10
much
1:04:10
humor
1:04:10
there.
1:04:11
But
1:04:11
there
1:04:11
it
1:04:11
was
1:04:12
one
1:04:12
of
1:04:12
the
1:04:12
more,
1:04:12
I
1:04:12
think,
1:04:13
emotional
1:04:14
arcs
1:04:14
of
1:04:15
any
1:04:15
of
1:04:15
the
1:04:15
characters
1:04:15
there.
1:04:16
Just
1:04:16
seeing
1:04:17
his
1:04:17
journey
1:04:17
throughout
1:04:18
the
1:04:18
show
1:04:19
and
1:04:19
the
1:04:19
way
1:04:19
he
1:04:19
kind
1:04:20
of
1:04:20
reconciles
1:04:20
with
1:04:20
his
1:04:20
sibling
1:04:21
because
1:04:21
I
1:04:21
get
1:04:21
as.
1:04:22
As
1:04:22
the
1:04:22
younger
1:04:22
brother,
1:04:23
I
1:04:23
can
1:04:23
relate
1:04:23
to
1:04:23
being
1:04:24
like
1:04:24
kind
1:04:25
of
1:04:25
obnoxious
1:04:25
and
1:04:25
stuff
1:04:26
with
1:04:26
my
1:04:26
older
1:04:27
siblings
1:04:27
when
1:04:27
I
1:04:27
was
1:04:27
a
1:04:27
kid
1:04:27
and
1:04:28
all
1:04:28
that
1:04:28
and,
1:04:28
and
1:04:28
a
1:04:29
lot.
1:04:29
And
1:04:29
for
1:04:29
these
1:04:29
three,
1:04:30
you
1:04:30
know,
1:04:30
like
1:04:31
my
1:04:31
siblings,
1:04:31
I
1:04:31
have
1:04:32
my
1:04:32
matured
1:04:32
a
1:04:32
lot,
1:04:32
lot.
1:04:33
But
1:04:33
I
1:04:33
know
1:04:33
with
1:04:34
these
1:04:34
characters,
1:04:35
a
1:04:35
lot
1:04:35
of
1:04:35
them
1:04:35
kind
1:04:36
of
1:04:36
stay
1:04:36
in
1:04:37
their
1:04:37
own,
1:04:37
you
1:04:38
know,
1:04:38
like
1:04:39
immature
1:04:40
angles
1:04:41
and
1:04:41
stuff,
1:04:41
even
1:04:41
to
1:04:42
adulthood.
1:04:43
But
1:04:43
they
1:04:43
work
1:04:44
through
1:04:44
that
1:04:44
and
1:04:44
they're
1:04:44
able
1:04:45
to
1:04:45
really
1:04:45
come
1:04:46
together
1:04:46
by
1:04:46
the
1:04:46
end.
1:04:46
And
1:04:47
that's
1:04:47
what
1:04:47
I
1:04:47
really
1:04:47
liked.
1:04:48
But
1:04:48
yeah,
1:04:48
so
1:04:49
Kelvin,
1:04:49
I
1:04:49
think,
1:04:49
has
1:04:50
like
1:04:50
my
1:04:50
favorite
1:04:50
arc
1:04:51
for
1:04:51
me.
1:04:51
But
1:04:51
I
1:04:51
really
1:04:52
love
1:04:52
all
1:04:52
the
1:04:52
characters
1:04:52
in
1:04:53
the
1:04:53
show.
1:04:53
There
1:04:53
are,
1:04:54
there
1:04:54
are
1:04:54
so
1:04:54
many.
1:04:54
Just
1:04:55
like
1:04:55
really
1:04:55
fascinating.
1:04:56
Yeah,
1:04:56
no,
1:04:56
no,
1:04:57
I
1:04:57
love
1:04:57
Kelvin
1:04:58
too.
1:04:59
That's
1:04:59
good
1:04:59
stuff.
1:05:00
There
1:05:00
so
1:05:00
much
1:05:00
good
1:05:01
in
1:05:01
the
1:05:01
show.
1:05:02
I
1:05:03
want
1:05:03
to.
1:05:04
Since
1:05:05
we
1:05:05
gave
1:05:05
Will
1:05:05
the
1:05:05
chance,
1:05:05
I
1:05:05
want
1:05:06
to
1:05:06
do
1:05:06
this
1:05:06
for
1:05:06
us.
1:05:06
And
1:05:07
then
1:05:07
I
1:05:07
got
1:05:07
one
1:05:08
more
1:05:08
wrap
1:05:08
up
1:05:08
thing
1:05:08
before
1:05:08
we
1:05:09
get
1:05:09
to
1:05:09
the
1:05:09
actual
1:05:10
wrap
1:05:10
up.
1:05:12
If
1:05:12
you
1:05:12
had
1:05:12
a
1:05:12
pick,
1:05:13
just
1:05:13
real
1:05:14
quick,
1:05:14
a
1:05:14
favorite
1:05:14
joke,
1:05:15
a
1:05:15
favorite
1:05:16
scene,
1:05:16
and
1:05:17
a
1:05:17
favorite
1:05:17
song
1:05:18
from
1:05:18
the
1:05:18
show,
1:05:19
what
1:05:19
would
1:05:19
it
1:05:19
be?
1:05:21
I
1:05:21
think
1:05:21
my
1:05:21
favorite
1:05:22
joke,
1:05:22
as
1:05:23
immature
1:05:23
as
1:05:23
this
1:05:23
is,
1:05:25
and
1:05:25
probably
1:05:25
just
1:05:25
because
1:05:26
of
1:05:26
the
1:05:26
time
1:05:26
I
1:05:26
grew
1:05:26
up
1:05:26
in
1:05:26
that
1:05:27
I
1:05:27
think
1:05:27
it's
1:05:27
funny,
1:05:28
was
1:05:28
when
1:05:28
the
1:05:29
first
1:05:29
time
1:05:30
that
1:05:30
Jesse
1:05:31
catches
1:05:31
his
1:05:31
son
1:05:31
and
1:05:32
he
1:05:32
doesn't
1:05:32
quite
1:05:33
know
1:05:33
what
1:05:33
he
1:05:33
caught
1:05:33
Gideon
1:05:34
doing,
1:05:35
so
1:05:35
he
1:05:35
assumes
1:05:36
that
1:05:36
Gideon's
1:05:36
gay
1:05:37
for
1:05:37
some
1:05:37
reason.
1:05:37
He's
1:05:37
like,
1:05:37
oh,
1:05:38
you're
1:05:38
bi.
1:05:38
And
1:05:39
then
1:05:39
like,
1:05:39
you
1:05:39
know,
1:05:40
he
1:05:40
gets
1:05:40
confronted
1:05:41
and
1:05:41
they're
1:05:41
like,
1:05:41
oh,
1:05:42
what
1:05:42
are
1:05:42
you
1:05:42
doing?
1:05:42
He's
1:05:42
like,
1:05:42
I
1:05:42
love
1:05:43
my
1:05:43
bi
1:05:43
son.
1:05:44
And
1:05:44
I
1:05:45
don't
1:05:45
know
1:05:45
why
1:05:46
that
1:05:46
was
1:05:46
so
1:05:46
funny.
1:05:47
That's
1:05:47
not
1:05:47
what
1:05:47
this
1:05:47
is
1:05:47
about
1:05:48
at
1:05:48
all.
1:05:49
Kudos
1:05:49
to
1:05:49
you.
1:05:49
Glad
1:05:50
you
1:05:50
do.
1:05:50
But
1:05:51
that's
1:05:51
not
1:05:51
what's
1:05:52
happening.
1:05:53
So
1:05:53
his
1:05:54
ignorance
1:05:54
there
1:05:54
just
1:05:55
sense
1:05:55
makes
1:05:55
made
1:05:55
that
1:05:55
moment
1:05:56
particularly
1:05:56
funny
1:05:57
to
1:05:57
me.
1:05:58
Favorite
1:05:59
scene.
1:05:59
What
1:06:00
was
1:06:00
the
1:06:00
other
1:06:00
one?
1:06:00
Favorite
1:06:00
joke?
1:06:01
No,
1:06:02
that
1:06:02
was
1:06:03
probably
1:06:03
my
1:06:03
favorite
1:06:03
joke.
1:06:03
So
1:06:04
my
1:06:04
favorite
1:06:04
scene.
1:06:06
You
1:06:06
know,
1:06:08
at
1:06:08
first
1:06:08
this
1:06:08
one
1:06:08
irritated
1:06:09
me,
1:06:09
but
1:06:09
I'm
1:06:09
gonna
1:06:10
stick
1:06:10
with
1:06:10
this.
1:06:12
Near
1:06:12
the
1:06:12
end,
1:06:13
Eli's
1:06:14
reading
1:06:14
a
1:06:15
note
1:06:15
that
1:06:15
his
1:06:17
former
1:06:17
wife,
1:06:18
Amy
1:06:18
Lee
1:06:19
wrote
1:06:19
to
1:06:19
her
1:06:19
best
1:06:19
friend
1:06:20
that
1:06:20
he
1:06:20
kind
1:06:20
of
1:06:20
sees
1:06:21
it's
1:06:21
a
1:06:21
whole
1:06:21
thing
1:06:22
and
1:06:22
it's
1:06:22
talking
1:06:23
about
1:06:23
how
1:06:23
like,
1:06:23
you
1:06:24
don't
1:06:24
need
1:06:24
a
1:06:24
perfect
1:06:25
ending
1:06:25
to
1:06:25
wrap
1:06:25
stuff
1:06:26
up.
1:06:26
And
1:06:27
it
1:06:27
was
1:06:27
just,
1:06:27
I
1:06:27
don't
1:06:27
know,
1:06:27
for
1:06:28
me,
1:06:28
at
1:06:28
first
1:06:28
I
1:06:28
was
1:06:28
like,
1:06:29
that's
1:06:29
irritating.
1:06:29
That's
1:06:29
just
1:06:29
an
1:06:30
excuse
1:06:30
because
1:06:30
you
1:06:30
guys
1:06:30
didn't
1:06:31
feel
1:06:31
like
1:06:31
write
1:06:31
it
1:06:31
up.
1:06:31
But
1:06:31
then
1:06:31
when
1:06:31
I
1:06:32
think
1:06:32
about
1:06:32
it,
1:06:32
I'm
1:06:32
like,
1:06:32
no,
1:06:32
but
1:06:32
that's
1:06:32
just.
1:06:33
That's
1:06:33
just
1:06:33
life,
1:06:33
you
1:06:34
know,
1:06:34
like
1:06:34
when
1:06:34
you
1:06:34
lose
1:06:35
somebody
1:06:35
or
1:06:35
like
1:06:35
you
1:06:36
move
1:06:36
away,
1:06:37
there's
1:06:37
never
1:06:37
like,
1:06:37
for
1:06:38
the
1:06:38
most
1:06:38
part,
1:06:38
you
1:06:38
don't
1:06:38
look
1:06:38
back
1:06:39
and
1:06:39
go,
1:06:40
that
1:06:40
was
1:06:40
a
1:06:40
good
1:06:40
finale
1:06:41
to
1:06:41
that
1:06:41
part
1:06:41
of
1:06:41
my
1:06:41
life.
1:06:41
It
1:06:42
just
1:06:42
kind
1:06:42
of
1:06:42
ended
1:06:43
at
1:06:43
some
1:06:43
point
1:06:43
and
1:06:43
you
1:06:43
don't
1:06:44
even
1:06:44
realize
1:06:44
when
1:06:44
it
1:06:44
ends
1:06:45
a
1:06:45
lot
1:06:45
of
1:06:45
the
1:06:45
time.
1:06:45
So,
1:06:46
yeah,
1:06:47
it
1:06:47
went
1:06:47
from
1:06:48
a
1:06:48
moment
1:06:48
that
1:06:48
I
1:06:48
really
1:06:48
didn't
1:06:48
like
1:06:48
to
1:06:49
probably
1:06:49
my
1:06:49
favorite
1:06:50
favorite
1:06:50
song,
1:06:51
of
1:06:51
course,
1:06:51
has
1:06:51
to
1:06:51
be
1:06:51
Misbehaving.
1:06:56
Billy.
1:06:57
Yeah,
1:06:57
baby.
1:06:58
Billy.
1:06:58
Yeah,
1:06:59
that
1:06:59
was
1:06:59
just,
1:06:59
it
1:06:59
was
1:07:00
a
1:07:00
funny
1:07:00
misbehaving.
1:07:01
If
1:07:01
you're
1:07:01
gonna
1:07:01
listen
1:07:01
to
1:07:01
one
1:07:01
song,
1:07:02
I
1:07:02
think
1:07:02
it's
1:07:02
got
1:07:02
to
1:07:02
be
1:07:02
that.
1:07:03
Yeah.
1:07:04
Kevin,
1:07:04
what
1:07:04
about
1:07:04
you,
1:07:04
man?
1:07:05
Okay,
1:07:06
so
1:07:06
favorite
1:07:06
joke.
1:07:07
This
1:07:07
is
1:07:07
actually
1:07:08
one
1:07:08
of
1:07:08
the
1:07:08
reason
1:07:08
why
1:07:08
it's
1:07:09
in
1:07:09
the
1:07:09
finale.
1:07:10
But
1:07:10
I
1:07:10
think
1:07:10
Jesse
1:07:11
has
1:07:11
some
1:07:11
of
1:07:12
the
1:07:12
best
1:07:12
one
1:07:12
liners
1:07:12
throughout
1:07:13
the
1:07:13
show
1:07:15
when
1:07:15
he's
1:07:16
in
1:07:16
the.
1:07:16
What
1:07:17
is
1:07:17
the
1:07:17
club?
1:07:17
The
1:07:18
Pistols
1:07:18
and
1:07:19
something
1:07:19
society
1:07:19
like.
1:07:21
Like
1:07:21
it's
1:07:21
these
1:07:22
like
1:07:22
old
1:07:22
pastors
1:07:23
like
1:07:23
in
1:07:24
a
1:07:24
pistol
1:07:24
club.
1:07:25
But
1:07:25
anyway,
1:07:25
he
1:07:26
challenges
1:07:27
in
1:07:27
a
1:07:27
duel
1:07:27
to
1:07:28
the
1:07:28
death
1:07:28
with
1:07:28
one
1:07:29
of
1:07:29
this
1:07:29
like
1:07:30
rival,
1:07:30
one
1:07:31
of
1:07:31
his
1:07:31
rivals
1:07:31
there
1:07:31
who's
1:07:32
kind
1:07:32
of
1:07:32
a
1:07:32
jerk.
1:07:32
And,
1:07:33
and
1:07:34
you
1:07:34
know,
1:07:34
it's
1:07:34
in
1:07:34
the
1:07:34
opening
1:07:35
scene.
1:07:35
So
1:07:35
you
1:07:35
know,
1:07:36
obviously
1:07:37
probably
1:07:37
not
1:07:37
one
1:07:37
of
1:07:38
them
1:07:38
is
1:07:38
not.
1:07:38
Neither
1:07:38
of
1:07:39
them
1:07:39
are
1:07:39
going
1:07:39
to
1:07:39
die.
1:07:39
Isn't
1:07:40
a
1:07:40
joke.
1:07:40
And
1:07:40
yeah,
1:07:41
they're
1:07:41
like,
1:07:41
no
1:07:42
one
1:07:42
dies
1:07:42
in
1:07:42
the
1:07:42
duel.
1:07:43
But
1:07:44
he
1:07:44
says
1:07:44
something
1:07:45
along
1:07:45
the
1:07:46
lines
1:07:46
of
1:07:46
like,
1:07:47
I,
1:07:47
I
1:07:48
show
1:07:48
mercy
1:07:48
to
1:07:49
you
1:07:49
today,
1:07:49
orphan.
1:07:50
Like,
1:07:50
I
1:07:50
mean,
1:07:50
like
1:07:50
it's
1:07:51
something
1:07:51
like
1:07:51
that.
1:07:51
Like,
1:07:52
and
1:07:52
I,
1:07:52
I,
1:07:53
that
1:07:53
was
1:07:53
there
1:07:54
moments
1:07:54
like
1:07:54
that
1:07:54
where,
1:07:55
where
1:07:56
I
1:07:56
think
1:07:56
I
1:07:57
just
1:07:57
like
1:07:57
was
1:07:58
about
1:07:58
to
1:07:58
fall
1:07:58
over.
1:07:59
Like,
1:07:59
I
1:07:59
mean
1:08:00
the
1:08:00
way
1:08:00
his
1:08:01
delivery
1:08:01
is
1:08:01
just
1:08:02
so
1:08:02
dry
1:08:02
and
1:08:03
impeccable.
1:08:04
But
1:08:04
yeah,
1:08:04
just
1:08:05
like
1:08:05
I
1:08:05
have
1:08:05
mercy
1:08:05
on
1:08:06
you,
1:08:06
orphan.
1:08:06
You
1:08:06
know,
1:08:07
like,
1:08:07
I
1:08:07
mean
1:08:07
it
1:08:08
was
1:08:08
just
1:08:08
such
1:08:08
a
1:08:08
Jesse
1:08:09
Danny
1:08:09
McBride
1:08:10
moment.
1:08:10
So
1:08:11
that
1:08:11
is
1:08:11
one
1:08:11
of
1:08:11
my
1:08:11
absolute
1:08:11
favorites.
1:08:13
And
1:08:13
then
1:08:14
favorite
1:08:14
scene,
1:08:14
there's
1:08:15
a
1:08:15
lot,
1:08:15
but
1:08:15
also
1:08:16
one
1:08:16
for
1:08:16
the
1:08:16
finale.
1:08:17
I
1:08:17
do
1:08:17
like,
1:08:17
I
1:08:18
mean,
1:08:18
as
1:08:18
much
1:08:18
as
1:08:19
I
1:08:19
wanted
1:08:19
to
1:08:19
see
1:08:19
teen
1:08:20
just
1:08:20
come
1:08:20
to
1:08:21
fruition
1:08:21
and
1:08:22
see
1:08:22
a
1:08:22
trailer
1:08:22
for
1:08:23
it
1:08:23
and
1:08:23
everything
1:08:23
like
1:08:23
that,
1:08:24
I.
1:08:24
Want
1:08:24
the
1:08:24
action
1:08:25
to
1:08:25
be
1:08:25
produced.
1:08:26
Yes.
1:08:26
Yeah.
1:08:27
Yes,
1:08:27
exactly.
1:08:28
Exactly.
1:08:28
That
1:08:28
would
1:08:29
be
1:08:29
amazing.
1:08:29
But
1:08:29
I
1:08:30
really
1:08:30
did
1:08:30
like
1:08:30
that
1:08:31
baby
1:08:31
Billy
1:08:32
decides
1:08:32
to
1:08:32
just
1:08:33
end
1:08:33
it
1:08:33
and
1:08:33
says
1:08:33
like,
1:08:34
you
1:08:34
know,
1:08:34
he
1:08:35
says
1:08:35
like
1:08:35
screw
1:08:35
tv.
1:08:35
I
1:08:36
was.
1:08:36
Because
1:08:37
he
1:08:37
has
1:08:37
this
1:08:37
arc
1:08:38
of
1:08:39
finally
1:08:40
seeing
1:08:40
what's
1:08:40
important
1:08:41
and
1:08:41
wanting
1:08:41
to
1:08:41
be
1:08:42
with
1:08:42
his
1:08:42
wife
1:08:42
and
1:08:42
kids.
1:08:42
And
1:08:43
it's
1:08:43
one
1:08:43
other
1:08:43
one
1:08:43
of
1:08:43
the
1:08:43
things
1:08:44
from
1:08:44
the.
1:08:44
When
1:08:44
the,
1:08:44
when
1:08:44
he's
1:08:45
first
1:08:45
introduced
1:08:45
in
1:08:46
season
1:08:46
one
1:08:46
and
1:08:47
he
1:08:47
has
1:08:47
a
1:08:47
wife
1:08:47
who
1:08:48
is
1:08:48
like
1:08:48
less
1:08:48
than
1:08:49
half
1:08:49
of
1:08:49
his
1:08:49
age.
1:08:49
I
1:08:49
was
1:08:50
like,
1:08:50
okay,
1:08:50
this
1:08:50
could
1:08:51
be
1:08:51
another
1:08:51
guy
1:08:51
who,
1:08:51
like,
1:08:51
he'll
1:08:52
probably
1:08:52
go
1:08:52
through
1:08:53
like,
1:08:53
you
1:08:53
know,
1:08:53
three
1:08:54
different
1:08:54
women
1:08:54
before
1:08:55
the
1:08:55
show
1:08:55
ends.
1:08:56
I
1:08:56
actually,
1:08:56
I
1:08:57
thought
1:08:57
it
1:08:57
kind
1:08:57
of
1:08:58
like
1:08:58
touching
1:08:58
that
1:08:58
he
1:08:58
and
1:08:58
Tiffany
1:08:59
stay
1:08:59
together
1:09:00
and
1:09:00
they
1:09:01
gave
1:09:01
actually
1:09:01
her
1:09:02
more
1:09:02
depth
1:09:03
than
1:09:03
I
1:09:03
would
1:09:04
have
1:09:04
thought
1:09:04
originally.
1:09:04
I
1:09:05
thought
1:09:05
that
1:09:05
was.
1:09:05
Have
1:09:05
been
1:09:05
more
1:09:06
of
1:09:06
a
1:09:06
joke
1:09:06
kind
1:09:06
of
1:09:06
thing.
1:09:07
And
1:09:07
I
1:09:07
liked
1:09:08
how
1:09:08
they
1:09:08
evolved
1:09:08
that.
1:09:09
So
1:09:09
by
1:09:09
the
1:09:09
end
1:09:09
of
1:09:10
that,
1:09:10
when
1:09:10
he
1:09:10
decides
1:09:11
to
1:09:11
give
1:09:11
up
1:09:12
on
1:09:12
his
1:09:12
dream
1:09:13
of,
1:09:13
you
1:09:13
know,
1:09:13
becoming
1:09:14
this
1:09:14
like,
1:09:15
TV
1:09:15
sensation,
1:09:16
both
1:09:17
as
1:09:17
like
1:09:17
an
1:09:17
actor,
1:09:18
writer,
1:09:18
director
1:09:19
and
1:09:19
to
1:09:20
spend
1:09:20
time
1:09:20
with
1:09:20
his
1:09:20
family,
1:09:21
I.
1:09:21
I
1:09:21
really
1:09:22
like
1:09:22
that
1:09:22
moment.
1:09:22
It
1:09:22
was
1:09:22
really
1:09:23
good.
1:09:23
You
1:09:23
know,
1:09:23
Again,
1:09:23
I
1:09:24
still
1:09:24
want
1:09:24
to
1:09:24
see
1:09:24
Teen
1:09:25
just
1:09:25
as
1:09:25
a
1:09:25
full
1:09:26
show
1:09:26
at
1:09:27
some
1:09:27
point,
1:09:27
but.
1:09:28
But
1:09:28
I
1:09:29
but
1:09:29
it
1:09:29
from
1:09:29
a
1:09:30
writing
1:09:30
perspective.
1:09:30
I
1:09:31
liked
1:09:31
how
1:09:31
they
1:09:31
it
1:09:32
there
1:09:33
and
1:09:33
then
1:09:33
my
1:09:33
favorite
1:09:34
song,
1:09:34
I
1:09:34
have
1:09:34
it
1:09:34
on
1:09:34
a
1:09:35
YouTube
1:09:35
playlist
1:09:35
is
1:09:36
the
1:09:36
There
1:09:36
I'll
1:09:37
come
1:09:37
a
1:09:37
payday.
1:09:37
You
1:09:37
know,
1:09:38
like,
1:09:38
I
1:09:38
love
1:09:39
misbehaving,
1:09:39
but
1:09:40
they
1:09:40
all
1:09:41
become
1:09:41
a
1:09:41
paid
1:09:41
it.
1:09:41
Just
1:09:41
the
1:09:42
way
1:09:42
they
1:09:42
dress
1:09:42
up
1:09:43
Bill
1:09:43
B.
1:09:43
Billy
1:09:43
in
1:09:44
that
1:09:44
scene,
1:09:44
he's
1:09:45
at
1:09:45
this
1:09:45
hotel.
1:09:45
I
1:09:46
was
1:09:46
just
1:09:46
like,
1:09:46
I
1:09:46
was
1:09:46
dying.
1:09:47
There's
1:09:47
no
1:09:47
precedence
1:09:48
for
1:09:48
it.
1:09:48
They
1:09:48
just.
1:09:49
They
1:09:49
just
1:09:50
throw
1:09:50
you
1:09:50
right
1:09:50
into
1:09:50
it.
1:09:51
We
1:09:51
want
1:09:51
to
1:09:51
do
1:09:51
this
1:09:51
now.
1:09:51
And
1:09:52
it
1:09:52
was
1:09:52
brilliant.
1:09:52
Yeah.
1:09:52
So.
1:09:55
So
1:09:55
both
1:09:55
of
1:09:55
your
1:09:55
moments
1:09:55
also
1:09:56
like,
1:09:57
I'm
1:09:57
sorry
1:09:57
to
1:09:57
do
1:09:57
this,
1:09:58
but.
1:09:58
But
1:09:59
one
1:09:59
of
1:09:59
the
1:09:59
things
1:09:59
the
1:09:59
show
1:10:00
does
1:10:00
so
1:10:00
well,
1:10:00
it's
1:10:00
like,
1:10:00
even
1:10:01
when
1:10:01
they
1:10:01
have
1:10:01
character
1:10:02
growth
1:10:02
moments,
1:10:02
you
1:10:03
never
1:10:03
get
1:10:03
this
1:10:03
moment
1:10:03
of
1:10:03
like,
1:10:04
they
1:10:04
were
1:10:04
bad
1:10:04
and
1:10:04
now
1:10:05
they're
1:10:05
good.
1:10:06
One
1:10:06
of
1:10:06
my
1:10:06
other
1:10:07
favorite
1:10:07
moments
1:10:07
in
1:10:07
the
1:10:08
finale
1:10:08
is
1:10:08
like,
1:10:09
they're
1:10:09
praying
1:10:09
for
1:10:09
this
1:10:09
guy
1:10:10
who
1:10:11
shot
1:10:11
them.
1:10:11
There's
1:10:11
like
1:10:11
an
1:10:12
old
1:10:12
family
1:10:12
friend
1:10:13
who
1:10:13
now
1:10:13
they
1:10:14
shot
1:10:14
and
1:10:14
he's
1:10:14
going
1:10:15
to
1:10:15
die.
1:10:15
He's
1:10:16
like,
1:10:16
just
1:10:16
asked
1:10:16
for
1:10:16
them
1:10:16
to
1:10:17
pray
1:10:17
for
1:10:17
him
1:10:17
and
1:10:18
this
1:10:18
big
1:10:19
character
1:10:19
growth
1:10:19
moment
1:10:19
because
1:10:20
they're
1:10:20
praying
1:10:20
for
1:10:20
someone
1:10:20
who
1:10:21
tried
1:10:21
to
1:10:21
kill
1:10:21
them.
1:10:22
And
1:10:22
during
1:10:22
the
1:10:22
prayer,
1:10:23
you
1:10:23
see
1:10:23
them
1:10:23
all
1:10:23
kind
1:10:23
of
1:10:23
realizing
1:10:24
like,
1:10:24
oh,
1:10:25
life's
1:10:25
not
1:10:25
all
1:10:25
about
1:10:26
them.
1:10:26
But
1:10:26
at
1:10:26
the
1:10:26
same
1:10:27
time,
1:10:27
while
1:10:27
they're
1:10:27
doing
1:10:27
that,
1:10:28
they're
1:10:28
praying,
1:10:28
being
1:10:28
like,
1:10:29
and
1:10:29
God,
1:10:29
you
1:10:29
know,
1:10:29
forgive
1:10:30
him
1:10:30
if
1:10:30
he
1:10:30
ever
1:10:30
made
1:10:30
it
1:10:31
about
1:10:31
himself.
1:10:31
Like,
1:10:31
clearly
1:10:32
they're
1:10:32
making
1:10:32
this
1:10:32
prayer
1:10:33
about
1:10:33
themselves
1:10:33
while
1:10:34
he's
1:10:34
dying.
1:10:35
And
1:10:35
I'm
1:10:35
like,
1:10:36
it's
1:10:36
so
1:10:36
funny
1:10:36
because
1:10:36
it's
1:10:36
like,
1:10:37
it
1:10:37
is
1:10:37
definitely
1:10:37
a
1:10:37
character
1:10:38
growth
1:10:38
moment,
1:10:38
but
1:10:39
they're
1:10:39
still
1:10:39
kind
1:10:40
of
1:10:40
oblivious
1:10:40
to
1:10:40
the
1:10:40
fact
1:10:41
that
1:10:41
they're
1:10:41
doing
1:10:42
it
1:10:42
right
1:10:42
then.
1:10:44
So
1:10:44
it's
1:10:44
like
1:10:44
they're
1:10:44
never
1:10:45
perfect.
1:10:46
Yeah.
1:10:46
Evan,
1:10:47
what
1:10:47
about
1:10:47
you,
1:10:47
man?
1:10:47
Favorite,
1:10:48
favorite
1:10:48
scene,
1:10:49
favorite
1:10:50
joke,
1:10:50
favorite
1:10:50
song.
1:10:51
There's
1:10:52
so
1:10:52
many
1:10:52
jokes,
1:10:53
man.
1:10:53
I
1:10:53
don't
1:10:54
know.
1:10:55
There
1:10:55
were
1:10:55
so
1:10:55
many
1:10:56
jokes
1:10:56
that
1:10:56
were
1:10:56
just
1:10:57
like,
1:10:57
quick
1:10:58
that.
1:10:58
That
1:10:59
went
1:10:59
by,
1:11:00
and
1:11:00
you
1:11:00
just
1:11:00
like,
1:11:01
damn,
1:11:01
he
1:11:01
reset
1:11:02
that.
1:11:02
Or
1:11:02
something
1:11:02
like
1:11:02
that.
1:11:03
Like,
1:11:03
whoa.
1:11:04
But
1:11:04
the
1:11:04
one
1:11:05
scene
1:11:05
that
1:11:05
came
1:11:05
to
1:11:05
my
1:11:06
mind
1:11:07
that
1:11:07
captures,
1:11:08
like,
1:11:10
how
1:11:10
personal
1:11:11
the
1:11:11
show
1:11:11
can
1:11:11
really
1:11:12
get,
1:11:13
despite
1:11:13
being
1:11:14
so
1:11:14
absurd,
1:11:15
is
1:11:15
the
1:11:15
scene
1:11:16
where
1:11:17
BJ
1:11:17
and.
1:11:18
But
1:11:18
they
1:11:18
go
1:11:19
to
1:11:20
Outback
1:11:20
Steakhouse
1:11:21
to.
1:11:22
To
1:11:22
kind
1:11:22
of
1:11:22
fix
1:11:22
the
1:11:23
relationship
1:11:23
because
1:11:23
she
1:11:24
cheated
1:11:24
on
1:11:25
the
1:11:25
worship
1:11:26
guy,
1:11:26
the.
1:11:27
The.
1:11:29
The
1:11:30
guitarist,
1:11:31
and
1:11:32
she
1:11:32
has
1:11:32
to
1:11:33
apologize
1:11:34
for
1:11:34
lying
1:11:34
that
1:11:34
she's
1:11:35
been
1:11:35
with,
1:11:35
like,
1:11:35
a
1:11:35
million
1:11:36
men
1:11:37
and
1:11:37
that
1:11:37
she's
1:11:38
only
1:11:38
been
1:11:38
with
1:11:38
one
1:11:38
man.
1:11:39
But
1:11:40
then
1:11:40
she
1:11:40
goes
1:11:41
to
1:11:42
tell
1:11:42
the
1:11:43
story
1:11:43
of
1:11:43
her
1:11:43
last
1:11:44
boyfriend,
1:11:45
and
1:11:45
it
1:11:45
was
1:11:45
when
1:11:46
she
1:11:46
was
1:11:46
a
1:11:46
teenager
1:11:47
and
1:11:47
she
1:11:47
sexually
1:11:48
assaulted
1:11:49
her
1:11:49
teacher,
1:11:50
and
1:11:50
she
1:11:51
thought
1:11:51
that
1:11:51
was
1:11:51
a
1:11:52
real
1:11:53
relationship.
1:11:54
And
1:11:54
I
1:11:54
was
1:11:54
just
1:11:54
like,
1:11:55
oh,
1:11:55
my
1:11:55
God.
1:11:55
Like,
1:11:56
that
1:11:57
suspense,
1:11:58
that
1:12:00
Arrested
1:12:01
Development
1:12:04
so
1:12:04
hard
1:12:04
that
1:12:05
you
1:12:05
don't
1:12:05
know
1:12:05
what
1:12:06
is
1:12:07
reality
1:12:08
and
1:12:08
stuff
1:12:08
like
1:12:08
that.
1:12:09
It
1:12:09
just
1:12:09
goes
1:12:10
to
1:12:10
show
1:12:10
how
1:12:11
extreme
1:12:11
they
1:12:11
can
1:12:12
get.
1:12:12
But
1:12:13
how
1:12:13
I
1:12:13
still
1:12:13
feel
1:12:14
bad
1:12:14
for
1:12:14
her
1:12:16
in
1:12:16
a
1:12:16
therapeutic
1:12:17
sense.
1:12:17
Like,
1:12:18
dang.
1:12:19
Like
1:12:19
what?
1:12:21
Yeah.
1:12:22
So
1:12:23
the
1:12:23
show
1:12:23
does
1:12:23
a
1:12:23
lot,
1:12:24
and
1:12:25
the
1:12:26
favorite
1:12:26
song
1:12:27
was
1:12:27
the
1:12:29
Payday.
1:12:29
Payday
1:12:30
was
1:12:30
good.
1:12:30
Payday.
1:12:31
That's
1:12:31
fair.
1:12:32
I
1:12:32
wish
1:12:32
I
1:12:32
remembered
1:12:33
more
1:12:33
because
1:12:33
I
1:12:34
saw
1:12:34
it
1:12:34
as
1:12:34
it
1:12:35
was
1:12:35
coming
1:12:35
out,
1:12:36
and
1:12:37
it's
1:12:37
been
1:12:38
a
1:12:38
few
1:12:38
years
1:12:38
since
1:12:38
I've
1:12:39
seen
1:12:39
the
1:12:39
first
1:12:39
season,
1:12:39
so
1:12:40
it's.
1:12:40
Like,
1:12:41
yeah,
1:12:42
even
1:12:43
the
1:12:43
songs
1:12:43
that
1:12:43
weren't,
1:12:43
like,
1:12:43
original
1:12:44
songs.
1:12:44
I
1:12:44
was
1:12:45
doing
1:12:45
an
1:12:45
episode
1:12:45
that's
1:12:46
gonna
1:12:46
come
1:12:46
out
1:12:46
on
1:12:46
Memorial
1:12:47
Day
1:12:47
with
1:12:47
Will
1:12:48
for
1:12:48
some
1:12:48
Joyful
1:12:48
noise
1:12:48
where
1:12:49
we're
1:12:49
kind
1:12:49
of,
1:12:49
like,
1:12:49
creating
1:12:49
our
1:12:50
summer
1:12:50
playlist.
1:12:50
And
1:12:51
so
1:12:51
many
1:12:51
songs
1:12:52
that
1:12:52
are
1:12:52
on
1:12:53
his
1:12:53
list
1:12:53
are
1:12:53
songs
1:12:54
that
1:12:54
they
1:12:54
play,
1:12:54
like,
1:12:54
as,
1:12:54
like,
1:12:55
background
1:12:55
or
1:12:55
soundtrack
1:12:56
in
1:12:56
this
1:12:56
show.
1:12:56
So,
1:12:57
like,
1:12:57
it
1:12:57
does
1:12:57
have
1:12:57
some.
1:12:57
Just
1:12:57
good
1:12:58
songs.
1:12:58
Just
1:12:59
all
1:12:59
around,
1:12:59
man.
1:13:00
Yeah.
1:13:01
Oh,
1:13:02
man.
1:13:02
This
1:13:03
is
1:13:03
a
1:13:03
civic
1:13:04
show.
1:13:04
There
1:13:05
a
1:13:05
lot
1:13:06
that
1:13:06
we
1:13:06
could
1:13:06
have
1:13:06
talked
1:13:07
about
1:13:07
that
1:13:07
we
1:13:07
didn't,
1:13:07
you
1:13:07
know,
1:13:08
know
1:13:08
four
1:13:08
whole
1:13:08
seasons.
1:13:09
You
1:13:09
really
1:13:09
could
1:13:09
probably
1:13:09
do
1:13:10
a
1:13:10
whole
1:13:10
podcast
1:13:10
just
1:13:10
on
1:13:10
this
1:13:11
show
1:13:11
if
1:13:11
you
1:13:11
wanted
1:13:12
to.
1:13:12
We're
1:13:12
not
1:13:12
going
1:13:12
to,
1:13:14
but
1:13:16
I
1:13:16
did
1:13:16
want
1:13:16
to
1:13:16
say,
1:13:17
as
1:13:17
far
1:13:17
as,
1:13:17
like,
1:13:18
trying
1:13:18
to
1:13:19
sum
1:13:19
up
1:13:20
thoughts.
1:13:21
So
1:13:21
I
1:13:21
have
1:13:21
another
1:13:22
thing
1:13:22
I
1:13:22
do
1:13:22
called
1:13:23
Dummy
1:13:23
for
1:13:23
Theology.
1:13:24
It
1:13:25
was
1:13:25
its
1:13:25
own
1:13:25
podcast.
1:13:26
Now
1:13:26
it's
1:13:26
part
1:13:26
of
1:13:26
a
1:13:26
different
1:13:26
podcast,
1:13:27
Be
1:13:27
Living
1:13:27
Water
1:13:28
that
1:13:28
I
1:13:28
do.
1:13:29
And
1:13:29
in
1:13:29
Dummy
1:13:29
for
1:13:30
Theology,
1:13:30
I
1:13:31
always
1:13:31
wrap
1:13:31
up
1:13:31
instead
1:13:31
of
1:13:31
three
1:13:32
practical
1:13:32
icons
1:13:32
with
1:13:33
three
1:13:34
questions
1:13:34
to
1:13:34
keep
1:13:35
thinking
1:13:35
on
1:13:35
so
1:13:36
we
1:13:36
can
1:13:36
all
1:13:36
keep
1:13:36
on
1:13:36
struggling
1:13:37
together.
1:13:37
It's
1:13:37
kind
1:13:37
of
1:13:38
like
1:13:38
the
1:13:38
whole
1:13:38
gimmick,
1:13:38
right?
1:13:39
If
1:13:40
you
1:13:40
watch
1:13:40
the
1:13:40
show,
1:13:40
you
1:13:41
know,
1:13:41
Christians
1:13:41
who
1:13:41
aren't
1:13:42
necessarily
1:13:42
involved
1:13:42
in
1:13:42
a
1:13:42
megachurch.
1:13:43
If
1:13:44
we
1:13:44
had
1:13:44
to
1:13:44
come
1:13:44
up
1:13:44
with
1:13:45
three
1:13:45
questions
1:13:45
that
1:13:46
this
1:13:46
left
1:13:46
us
1:13:46
with
1:13:46
to
1:13:46
Keep
1:13:47
thinking
1:13:47
about,
1:13:48
well,
1:13:49
we
1:13:49
can
1:13:49
both.
1:13:49
We
1:13:49
can
1:13:50
all
1:13:50
come
1:13:50
up
1:13:50
with
1:13:50
one,
1:13:50
and
1:13:50
that'll
1:13:51
give
1:13:51
us
1:13:51
three,
1:13:51
and
1:13:51
then
1:13:52
us
1:13:52
and
1:13:52
our
1:13:52
listeners
1:13:53
can
1:13:53
part
1:13:54
with
1:13:54
these
1:13:54
three
1:13:54
questions.
1:13:55
I
1:13:55
want
1:13:55
to
1:13:55
know
1:13:55
what
1:13:55
it
1:13:55
would
1:13:55
be.
1:13:56
I'll
1:13:57
go
1:13:57
first,
1:13:57
give
1:13:57
you
1:13:57
time
1:13:58
to
1:13:58
think
1:13:58
about
1:13:58
it,
1:13:58
because
1:13:58
this
1:13:58
wasn't
1:13:58
any
1:13:59
outline.
1:14:02
I.
1:14:02
I
1:14:02
want
1:14:03
to
1:14:03
go
1:14:03
with
1:14:03
the.
1:14:04
When
1:14:04
I
1:14:04
think
1:14:04
about
1:14:04
the
1:14:04
show,
1:14:05
it's
1:14:05
a
1:14:05
lot
1:14:05
of
1:14:05
the
1:14:05
flaws
1:14:06
and
1:14:06
stuff
1:14:06
it
1:14:06
has,
1:14:08
I
1:14:08
actually
1:14:09
think.
1:14:09
And
1:14:10
this
1:14:10
is
1:14:10
kind
1:14:10
of
1:14:10
weird.
1:14:11
Maybe
1:14:12
part
1:14:12
of
1:14:13
their
1:14:13
problem
1:14:13
is
1:14:14
these
1:14:14
people
1:14:14
don't
1:14:14
seem
1:14:15
to
1:14:15
know
1:14:15
the
1:14:15
Bible.
1:14:16
You
1:14:16
know,
1:14:17
like,
1:14:17
I'm
1:14:17
like.
1:14:18
I
1:14:18
don't.
1:14:18
Like,
1:14:18
that's,
1:14:18
like,
1:14:18
a
1:14:19
really
1:14:19
conservative
1:14:19
takeaway
1:14:20
from
1:14:20
this,
1:14:20
but
1:14:20
I'm
1:14:20
like,
1:14:20
I
1:14:21
actually
1:14:21
feel
1:14:21
like
1:14:22
maybe
1:14:22
if
1:14:22
they
1:14:22
were
1:14:23
more
1:14:23
Bible
1:14:23
focused,
1:14:24
a
1:14:24
lot
1:14:24
of
1:14:25
this
1:14:25
stuff
1:14:25
wouldn't
1:14:26
have
1:14:26
happened.
1:14:26
Happened.
1:14:28
So
1:14:28
maybe
1:14:29
my
1:14:29
takeaway
1:14:29
question
1:14:30
is,
1:14:30
like,
1:14:31
are
1:14:31
we
1:14:31
spending
1:14:31
enough
1:14:32
time
1:14:32
in
1:14:32
the
1:14:32
Bible?
1:14:32
I
1:14:32
know
1:14:33
that's
1:14:33
super
1:14:33
basic
1:14:33
and
1:14:34
whatever,
1:14:34
but
1:14:35
I
1:14:35
actually
1:14:35
think
1:14:35
that's
1:14:36
probably
1:14:36
important
1:14:37
to
1:14:37
consider
1:14:37
when
1:14:38
you're
1:14:38
thinking
1:14:38
about
1:14:38
this
1:14:38
kind
1:14:38
of
1:14:38
stuff.
1:14:40
Kevin,
1:14:40
I'm
1:14:40
gonna
1:14:40
put
1:14:41
you
1:14:41
on
1:14:41
the
1:14:41
spot.
1:14:42
What's
1:14:42
our
1:14:42
second
1:14:42
question?
1:14:43
I
1:14:44
would
1:14:44
say
1:14:44
it
1:14:45
revolves
1:14:45
back
1:14:45
to
1:14:46
kind
1:14:46
of
1:14:46
the
1:14:46
origins
1:14:47
of
1:14:47
both
1:14:48
Danny
1:14:48
McBride
1:14:49
as
1:14:49
a
1:14:49
story,
1:14:49
because
1:14:49
he
1:14:50
has
1:14:50
said
1:14:51
that
1:14:53
his.
1:14:53
The
1:14:54
roots
1:14:54
of
1:14:54
him
1:14:54
as
1:14:54
a
1:14:54
storyteller
1:14:55
started
1:14:56
when
1:14:56
he
1:14:57
was
1:14:57
growing
1:14:57
up
1:14:57
in
1:14:57
church,
1:14:58
and
1:14:58
his
1:14:59
mom
1:14:59
did,
1:14:59
like,
1:15:00
like,
1:15:00
puppet
1:15:00
shows
1:15:01
and
1:15:01
stuff
1:15:01
at
1:15:01
a.
1:15:02
You
1:15:02
know,
1:15:02
it
1:15:02
wasn't
1:15:02
like
1:15:03
a
1:15:03
mega
1:15:03
church,
1:15:03
but.
1:15:04
But
1:15:04
he
1:15:04
was
1:15:04
able
1:15:04
to,
1:15:04
like,
1:15:05
learn
1:15:05
storytelling
1:15:05
to
1:15:05
that,
1:15:06
and
1:15:06
that's
1:15:06
what
1:15:06
kind
1:15:06
of
1:15:07
led
1:15:07
him
1:15:07
to
1:15:07
this.
1:15:07
And
1:15:08
really,
1:15:08
you
1:15:09
know,
1:15:09
get,
1:15:09
again,
1:15:09
getting
1:15:09
back
1:15:10
to
1:15:10
the
1:15:10
themes
1:15:11
of,
1:15:12
you
1:15:12
know,
1:15:12
satirizing
1:15:14
a
1:15:14
lot
1:15:14
of
1:15:14
the
1:15:15
church's
1:15:15
obsession
1:15:16
with
1:15:16
money
1:15:16
and
1:15:16
power,
1:15:17
but
1:15:17
also
1:15:17
humanizing
1:15:18
the
1:15:18
character,
1:15:18
characters.
1:15:19
I
1:15:19
would
1:15:19
say
1:15:19
it's
1:15:19
just
1:15:19
like,
1:15:20
are
1:15:20
we
1:15:20
listening
1:15:21
to
1:15:21
each
1:15:21
other's
1:15:21
stories?
1:15:22
Because
1:15:22
I
1:15:23
think
1:15:23
that's
1:15:23
where
1:15:23
we
1:15:24
can
1:15:24
really
1:15:25
break
1:15:26
down
1:15:26
a
1:15:26
lot
1:15:26
of
1:15:26
barriers
1:15:27
and
1:15:27
understand
1:15:28
each
1:15:28
other
1:15:28
better
1:15:29
and
1:15:30
hopefully
1:15:30
reduce
1:15:31
our.
1:15:32
Because
1:15:32
I.
1:15:32
I
1:15:32
think
1:15:33
all
1:15:33
of
1:15:33
us,
1:15:33
let's
1:15:33
be
1:15:34
honest,
1:15:34
are,
1:15:35
you
1:15:35
know,
1:15:35
have
1:15:36
some
1:15:36
lust
1:15:37
for
1:15:37
power
1:15:38
inside
1:15:38
of
1:15:38
us
1:15:39
and.
1:15:41
And
1:15:41
we
1:15:41
have
1:15:42
a
1:15:42
tendency
1:15:42
to
1:15:43
view
1:15:44
people
1:15:46
that
1:15:46
oppose
1:15:46
us
1:15:47
as,
1:15:47
like,
1:15:47
less
1:15:47
than.
1:15:48
But
1:15:48
ultimately,
1:15:49
if
1:15:49
we
1:15:49
can
1:15:49
just,
1:15:50
like,
1:15:50
learn
1:15:51
from
1:15:51
each
1:15:51
other
1:15:52
and,
1:15:53
you
1:15:53
know,
1:15:53
and
1:15:54
listen
1:15:54
to
1:15:54
each
1:15:54
other's
1:15:55
stories,
1:15:56
we
1:15:57
can
1:15:57
really
1:15:57
better
1:15:57
understand
1:15:58
each
1:15:58
other
1:15:58
and
1:15:59
grow
1:15:59
as
1:15:59
people
1:16:00
spiritually.
1:16:01
Yeah.
1:16:02
Yeah.
1:16:03
All
1:16:03
right,
1:16:03
so
1:16:03
we
1:16:03
got.
1:16:05
That's
1:16:05
a
1:16:05
good
1:16:05
one.
1:16:06
Are
1:16:07
we
1:16:07
spending
1:16:07
enough
1:16:07
time
1:16:07
in
1:16:07
the
1:16:08
Bible?
1:16:08
Are
1:16:08
we
1:16:08
listening
1:16:09
to
1:16:09
each
1:16:09
other's
1:16:09
stories?
1:16:10
Evan,
1:16:11
what's
1:16:11
our
1:16:11
third
1:16:12
takeaway
1:16:12
question?
1:16:13
I
1:16:13
don't
1:16:13
know,
1:16:13
because
1:16:14
you
1:16:14
guys
1:16:14
kind
1:16:14
of
1:16:14
stole
1:16:15
mine
1:16:15
Because
1:16:15
I
1:16:15
was
1:16:16
thinking,
1:16:17
both
1:16:17
of
1:16:17
you
1:16:17
guys,
1:16:18
I
1:16:18
was
1:16:19
thinking
1:16:19
about
1:16:19
that,
1:16:20
how
1:16:21
the
1:16:21
mother
1:16:21
was
1:16:22
the
1:16:22
patriarch
1:16:23
of
1:16:23
the
1:16:23
family
1:16:24
and
1:16:26
she
1:16:26
set
1:16:26
the
1:16:27
level
1:16:27
for
1:16:27
them
1:16:28
and
1:16:28
they
1:16:28
just
1:16:28
assumed
1:16:29
Christianity
1:16:30
was
1:16:30
the
1:16:31
way
1:16:31
their
1:16:32
mom
1:16:32
was.
1:16:33
So
1:16:34
they
1:16:34
didn't.
1:16:34
So
1:16:35
they
1:16:35
didn't
1:16:35
really
1:16:35
know
1:16:35
the
1:16:35
Bible.
1:16:37
They
1:16:38
knew.
1:16:38
They
1:16:39
just
1:16:39
assumed
1:16:39
it
1:16:40
culturally.
1:16:41
And
1:16:41
then
1:16:42
you
1:16:42
have
1:16:42
that
1:16:42
other
1:16:43
extreme
1:16:44
where
1:16:45
you
1:16:45
only
1:16:46
relate
1:16:47
to
1:16:48
other
1:16:48
people's
1:16:49
experiences,
1:16:50
but
1:16:51
you
1:16:51
don't
1:16:52
get
1:16:52
into
1:16:52
what
1:16:53
the
1:16:53
Bible
1:16:53
really
1:16:53
says.
1:16:54
So
1:16:54
there's
1:16:54
a
1:16:54
mix
1:16:55
of
1:16:55
both.
1:17:01
And
1:17:01
I
1:17:01
think
1:17:02
what
1:17:02
I'm
1:17:02
trying
1:17:03
to
1:17:03
say
1:17:03
is
1:17:03
that
1:17:04
find
1:17:05
out
1:17:05
where's
1:17:06
your
1:17:06
life?
1:17:08
Where's
1:17:09
your
1:17:09
threshold
1:17:10
to
1:17:10
when
1:17:11
it
1:17:12
becomes
1:17:12
about
1:17:12
yourself?
1:17:14
When
1:17:14
does
1:17:14
it
1:17:15
become
1:17:15
about
1:17:15
the
1:17:15
ego?
1:17:16
Because
1:17:16
we
1:17:17
all
1:17:17
have
1:17:17
it
1:17:18
a
1:17:18
little
1:17:18
bit
1:17:19
different.
1:17:19
We
1:17:19
all
1:17:19
have
1:17:19
a
1:17:20
little
1:17:20
threshold
1:17:21
for
1:17:22
when
1:17:22
that
1:17:22
becomes
1:17:23
about
1:17:23
ourselves.
1:17:24
And
1:17:24
just
1:17:25
pray
1:17:25
and
1:17:26
fast
1:17:27
for
1:17:27
discernment.
1:17:28
To
1:17:28
know
1:17:29
when
1:17:29
you
1:17:29
know
1:17:30
that
1:17:30
line
1:17:30
and
1:17:31
when
1:17:31
to
1:17:31
not
1:17:31
cross.
1:17:32
Awesome.
1:17:32
So
1:17:33
like
1:17:33
how
1:17:34
much
1:17:34
of
1:17:34
your
1:17:34
faith
1:17:34
is
1:17:34
about
1:17:35
yourself?
1:17:36
Kind
1:17:36
of.
1:17:36
Kind
1:17:37
of
1:17:37
deal.
1:17:38
How
1:17:38
much
1:17:39
of
1:17:39
your
1:17:39
faith
1:17:40
is
1:17:41
a
1:17:42
mix
1:17:42
of
1:17:42
both
1:17:43
what
1:17:43
you
1:17:43
take
1:17:44
in
1:17:45
and
1:17:46
what
1:17:46
you
1:17:47
process,
1:17:48
but
1:17:48
then
1:17:48
what
1:17:49
you
1:17:49
output
1:17:50
is
1:17:52
because
1:17:52
you
1:17:53
don't
1:17:53
want
1:17:53
to
1:17:53
come
1:17:53
across
1:17:54
as
1:17:54
if
1:17:55
like
1:17:55
you're
1:17:56
saying,
1:17:57
don't
1:17:57
be
1:17:57
be
1:17:58
about
1:17:58
yourself.
1:17:59
But
1:17:59
you
1:17:59
are
1:18:00
about
1:18:00
yourself.
1:18:01
Yeah.
1:18:02
At
1:18:02
the
1:18:02
same
1:18:03
time.
1:18:03
So.
1:18:03
Okay,
1:18:04
okay,
1:18:04
I
1:18:04
like
1:18:04
it.
1:18:04
I
1:18:04
like
1:18:05
it.
1:18:05
They've
1:18:05
got
1:18:06
three
1:18:06
solid
1:18:07
takeaway
1:18:07
questions
1:18:08
here.
1:18:09
And
1:18:09
you
1:18:09
know,
1:18:10
Evan,
1:18:10
here's
1:18:10
two.
1:18:11
We
1:18:11
could
1:18:12
keep
1:18:12
doing
1:18:12
this
1:18:12
all
1:18:12
day,
1:18:12
but
1:18:12
like
1:18:13
it
1:18:13
draws
1:18:13
me
1:18:13
into
1:18:13
how
1:18:13
like
1:18:14
this
1:18:14
kind
1:18:14
of
1:18:15
Christianity
1:18:15
is
1:18:15
like,
1:18:15
oh,
1:18:16
you
1:18:16
can't
1:18:16
have
1:18:16
statues
1:18:17
of
1:18:17
saints.
1:18:17
You
1:18:17
can't
1:18:18
have,
1:18:18
you
1:18:18
know,
1:18:18
these
1:18:19
kind
1:18:19
of
1:18:19
stained
1:18:19
glass
1:18:19
of
1:18:20
things
1:18:20
other
1:18:20
than
1:18:20
like
1:18:20
specifically
1:18:21
Bible
1:18:21
stuff.
1:18:22
But
1:18:22
then
1:18:22
like,
1:18:22
they're
1:18:23
completely
1:18:23
fine
1:18:23
with
1:18:23
like
1:18:23
having
1:18:24
little
1:18:24
memorial
1:18:24
for
1:18:25
their
1:18:25
mom
1:18:25
that
1:18:25
they
1:18:25
lost.
1:18:26
And
1:18:26
I'm
1:18:26
like,
1:18:27
that's
1:18:27
the
1:18:27
same
1:18:28
thing.
1:18:31
And
1:18:31
it
1:18:31
can
1:18:31
be
1:18:31
used
1:18:32
for
1:18:32
good
1:18:32
or
1:18:32
evil.
1:18:33
So
1:18:34
it's
1:18:34
like,
1:18:34
are
1:18:34
you
1:18:35
just
1:18:35
part
1:18:36
of
1:18:36
the
1:18:36
culture
1:18:36
inheriting
1:18:37
it
1:18:37
or
1:18:37
do
1:18:38
you
1:18:38
actually
1:18:38
believe
1:18:38
the
1:18:38
stuff
1:18:40
like
1:18:40
you
1:18:40
said?
1:18:40
Is
1:18:41
it
1:18:41
a
1:18:41
mixture?
1:18:43
Do
1:18:43
we
1:18:43
really
1:18:43
believe
1:18:44
the
1:18:44
Bible?
1:18:45
Do
1:18:45
we
1:18:45
listen
1:18:45
to
1:18:45
each
1:18:46
other's
1:18:46
stories?
1:18:46
I
1:18:46
like
1:18:46
these
1:18:47
questions.
1:18:47
I
1:18:48
think
1:18:48
just
1:18:48
struggling
1:18:48
with
1:18:49
those
1:18:49
three
1:18:49
alone,
1:18:51
man.
1:18:51
Yeah.
1:18:52
Can
1:18:52
get,
1:18:52
get
1:18:53
you
1:18:53
a
1:18:53
long
1:18:53
ways.
1:18:54
And
1:18:54
there's,
1:18:54
there's
1:18:55
plenty
1:18:55
of
1:18:55
others
1:18:56
takeaway
1:18:56
stuff
1:18:56
we
1:18:56
could
1:18:56
pull
1:18:57
from
1:18:57
this
1:18:57
series.
1:18:57
But
1:18:57
I
1:18:57
think
1:18:57
that's
1:18:58
a
1:18:58
good
1:18:58
place
1:18:58
to
1:18:58
end
1:18:58
this
1:18:59
as
1:18:59
we,
1:18:59
we
1:18:59
go
1:19:00
ahead
1:19:00
and
1:19:00
we're
1:19:00
gonna
1:19:01
jump
1:19:01
into
1:19:02
our
1:19:03
wrap
1:19:03
up
1:19:04
for
1:19:04
now.
1:19:05
We
1:19:05
are
1:19:05
gonna
1:19:05
ask
1:19:05
a
1:19:05
bonus
1:19:06
question
1:19:06
after
1:19:06
this
1:19:07
is
1:19:07
over.
1:19:08
It's
1:19:08
gonna
1:19:08
be
1:19:08
a
1:19:08
simple
1:19:09
one.
1:19:09
Which
1:19:09
gemstone
1:19:10
would
1:19:10
you
1:19:10
most
1:19:10
like
1:19:10
to
1:19:10
have
1:19:10
attend
1:19:11
your
1:19:11
church?
1:19:11
Will's
1:19:12
no
1:19:12
longer
1:19:12
with
1:19:12
us,
1:19:12
but
1:19:12
I.
1:19:13
I'm
1:19:13
a
1:19:13
member
1:19:13
of
1:19:13
Will's
1:19:14
church,
1:19:14
so
1:19:14
I
1:19:14
can
1:19:14
answer
1:19:14
for
1:19:15
him.
1:19:15
There
1:19:15
we
1:19:15
go.
1:19:16
So
1:19:16
this
1:19:16
could
1:19:16
be
1:19:17
a
1:19:17
fun
1:19:17
one
1:19:17
for
1:19:17
now
1:19:17
that
1:19:18
we're
1:19:18
going
1:19:18
to
1:19:18
give
1:19:18
a
1:19:18
recommendation
1:19:19
doesn't
1:19:19
have
1:19:19
to
1:19:19
be
1:19:19
about
1:19:20
this
1:19:20
could
1:19:20
be
1:19:20
about
1:19:20
anything.
1:19:22
Kevin,
1:19:22
what
1:19:22
are
1:19:22
you
1:19:22
recommending
1:19:23
for
1:19:23
People
1:19:23
right
1:19:23
now?
1:19:25
So
1:19:25
I
1:19:25
was
1:19:25
just
1:19:25
talking
1:19:25
with
1:19:26
Evan
1:19:26
before
1:19:26
recording.
1:19:27
I
1:19:27
started
1:19:27
watching
1:19:28
Vice
1:19:28
Principals
1:19:29
after
1:19:29
this.
1:19:29
And
1:19:30
also
1:19:31
a
1:19:31
great
1:19:31
show
1:19:31
that
1:19:31
is
1:19:32
Also
1:19:32
a
1:19:32
Danny
1:19:33
McBride
1:19:33
Co
1:19:33
creation
1:19:34
stars
1:19:34
in.
1:19:34
And
1:19:35
I
1:19:35
think
1:19:35
one
1:19:35
of
1:19:35
the
1:19:35
most
1:19:35
fascinating
1:19:36
things
1:19:36
about
1:19:36
it
1:19:36
is
1:19:37
that
1:19:38
both
1:19:38
the
1:19:38
main
1:19:38
characters
1:19:39
that
1:19:39
Danny
1:19:39
McBride
1:19:40
and
1:19:40
Walter
1:19:40
Coggins
1:19:40
play
1:19:41
play
1:19:41
are
1:19:41
so
1:19:41
unlikable
1:19:42
and
1:19:42
like,
1:19:42
you
1:19:43
don't
1:19:43
root
1:19:43
for
1:19:43
them
1:19:43
at
1:19:44
all.
1:19:44
Like,
1:19:44
they're
1:19:44
pretty
1:19:45
horrible
1:19:45
people.
1:19:46
But
1:19:47
it.
1:19:47
That's
1:19:47
what's
1:19:48
really
1:19:48
fascinating
1:19:48
about
1:19:49
the
1:19:49
way
1:19:49
the
1:19:50
show
1:19:50
is
1:19:50
told
1:19:50
is
1:19:51
you
1:19:51
can
1:19:51
be
1:19:51
still
1:19:52
be
1:19:52
invested
1:19:52
in
1:19:53
characters
1:19:54
who
1:19:55
are
1:19:55
not
1:19:55
likable
1:19:56
and
1:19:56
you
1:19:56
really
1:19:56
don't
1:19:56
want
1:19:57
them
1:19:57
to
1:19:57
succeed,
1:19:57
but
1:19:58
you're
1:19:58
really
1:19:58
invested
1:19:58
in
1:19:59
the
1:19:59
story
1:19:59
and
1:19:59
it
1:19:59
satirizes
1:20:01
male
1:20:01
rage
1:20:02
and
1:20:03
really
1:20:03
fits
1:20:03
in
1:20:03
well
1:20:04
into
1:20:04
a
1:20:04
modern
1:20:05
sociopolitical
1:20:05
context.
1:20:07
And
1:20:07
it's
1:20:07
just,
1:20:07
you
1:20:08
know,
1:20:08
it's.
1:20:08
It's
1:20:08
entertaining
1:20:09
in
1:20:09
a
1:20:09
different
1:20:09
way.
1:20:09
I
1:20:09
think
1:20:10
Righteous
1:20:10
Gemstones
1:20:10
is
1:20:11
funnier
1:20:11
and
1:20:12
it's
1:20:12
meant
1:20:12
to
1:20:12
Vice
1:20:13
Principals
1:20:13
is
1:20:13
darker,
1:20:14
but
1:20:15
it's
1:20:15
still
1:20:16
brilliant
1:20:16
storytelling.
1:20:17
So
1:20:17
highly
1:20:18
recommend
1:20:18
if
1:20:18
you're
1:20:18
looking
1:20:18
for
1:20:19
something
1:20:19
after
1:20:19
Righteous
1:20:20
episodes.
1:20:20
Yeah,
1:20:20
yeah,
1:20:21
I
1:20:21
love
1:20:21
it.
1:20:21
I
1:20:21
love
1:20:21
it
1:20:22
mine.
1:20:23
And
1:20:23
it's
1:20:23
probably
1:20:24
gonna
1:20:24
be
1:20:24
super
1:20:24
simple,
1:20:24
basic.
1:20:26
The
1:20:26
new
1:20:26
Doctor
1:20:27
who
1:20:27
I'm
1:20:28
gonna
1:20:28
recommend.
1:20:28
The
1:20:28
new
1:20:28
Doctor
1:20:29
who
1:20:29
I'm
1:20:30
gonna
1:20:30
throw
1:20:30
out
1:20:30
there.
1:20:31
You
1:20:31
know,
1:20:31
the
1:20:31
first
1:20:32
season
1:20:32
that
1:20:32
Disney
1:20:32
did
1:20:33
after
1:20:33
the
1:20:33
three
1:20:33
specials
1:20:34
with
1:20:34
David
1:20:34
Dennett
1:20:34
that
1:20:34
were
1:20:34
awesome
1:20:35
because
1:20:35
of
1:20:35
David
1:20:35
within
1:20:35
it,
1:20:36
I
1:20:37
loved
1:20:37
it,
1:20:37
but
1:20:38
I
1:20:38
wasn't
1:20:38
like,
1:20:38
I
1:20:38
don't
1:20:38
know
1:20:38
if
1:20:38
I
1:20:39
would
1:20:39
recommend
1:20:39
this
1:20:39
unless
1:20:39
you
1:20:39
already
1:20:40
love
1:20:40
Doctor
1:20:40
who,
1:20:40
right?
1:20:41
But
1:20:41
now
1:20:42
we're
1:20:42
getting
1:20:42
near
1:20:42
the
1:20:42
end
1:20:42
of
1:20:42
the
1:20:42
second
1:20:43
season
1:20:43
and
1:20:43
really
1:20:44
what
1:20:44
he
1:20:44
did,
1:20:44
the
1:20:45
season
1:20:45
one
1:20:45
and
1:20:45
season
1:20:46
two
1:20:47
since
1:20:47
Disney
1:20:47
took
1:20:47
over
1:20:48
are
1:20:48
really
1:20:48
just
1:20:48
one
1:20:49
long
1:20:49
season,
1:20:50
it
1:20:50
seems
1:20:50
like,
1:20:51
because
1:20:52
he's
1:20:52
wrapping
1:20:52
up
1:20:53
the
1:20:53
stuff
1:20:53
that
1:20:53
he
1:20:53
set
1:20:53
up
1:20:53
in
1:20:54
the
1:20:54
beginning
1:20:54
now
1:20:55
in
1:20:55
the
1:20:55
same
1:20:55
way
1:20:55
that
1:20:55
Russell
1:20:56
T.
1:20:56
Davies
1:20:56
did
1:20:56
with,
1:20:57
like
1:20:57
Bad
1:20:57
Wolf
1:20:57
when
1:20:57
he
1:20:58
did
1:20:58
the
1:20:58
first
1:21:00
soft
1:21:00
reboot
1:21:00
of
1:21:01
Doctor
1:21:01
who.
1:21:01
And
1:21:02
it's
1:21:02
done
1:21:02
in
1:21:02
such
1:21:02
a
1:21:02
way
1:21:03
where
1:21:03
I
1:21:03
think,
1:21:03
like,
1:21:04
if
1:21:04
you
1:21:04
stopped
1:21:04
watching
1:21:04
after
1:21:05
Diva
1:21:05
Tended,
1:21:05
if
1:21:05
you
1:21:06
stopped
1:21:06
watching
1:21:06
even
1:21:06
after
1:21:06
Classic
1:21:07
who,
1:21:07
the
1:21:08
way
1:21:08
this
1:21:08
picks
1:21:08
up,
1:21:09
I
1:21:09
think
1:21:09
it
1:21:09
makes
1:21:09
perfect
1:21:10
sense
1:21:10
in
1:21:10
the
1:21:10
way
1:21:11
it's
1:21:11
wrapping
1:21:11
up.
1:21:11
There's
1:21:12
a
1:21:12
big
1:21:12
payoff
1:21:12
for
1:21:12
anyone
1:21:13
who's
1:21:13
an
1:21:13
old
1:21:13
Doctor
1:21:13
who
1:21:13
fan
1:21:14
or
1:21:14
someone
1:21:14
who's
1:21:15
Never
1:21:15
seen
1:21:15
the
1:21:15
show
1:21:15
before
1:21:15
and
1:21:16
it's
1:21:16
a
1:21:16
really
1:21:16
good
1:21:17
way
1:21:17
to
1:21:17
just
1:21:17
bring
1:21:17
people
1:21:17
in,
1:21:18
I
1:21:18
think.
1:21:18
So
1:21:19
I
1:21:19
gotta
1:21:20
recommend
1:21:20
these
1:21:20
first
1:21:20
two
1:21:20
seasons.
1:21:21
Disney
1:21:22
Doctor
1:21:22
who
1:21:22
with
1:21:22
Russell
1:21:22
T.
1:21:23
Davies.
1:21:23
He's
1:21:24
doing
1:21:24
some
1:21:24
fantastic
1:21:25
stuff.
1:21:26
Evan,
1:21:26
what's
1:21:26
your
1:21:27
recommendation
1:21:27
today?
1:21:28
My
1:21:28
recommendation
1:21:29
was.
1:21:30
Is
1:21:30
a
1:21:31
film.
1:21:32
I
1:21:33
shouldn't
1:21:33
call
1:21:33
it
1:21:33
a
1:21:33
film.
1:21:34
It's
1:21:34
not.
1:21:35
It's
1:21:35
a
1:21:35
flick.
1:21:37
It's
1:21:37
a.
1:21:37
It's.
1:21:38
It's
1:21:38
a
1:21:40
horror
1:21:41
comedy
1:21:41
called
1:21:42
Y2K
1:21:43
by
1:21:44
a
1:21:44
Kyle
1:21:44
Mooney.
1:21:45
Kyle
1:21:46
Mooney
1:21:46
has
1:21:46
this
1:21:47
weird,
1:21:48
quirky
1:21:48
sense
1:21:48
of
1:21:49
humor
1:21:49
that
1:21:49
I
1:21:50
love.
1:21:50
It
1:21:51
didn't
1:21:51
translate
1:21:51
too
1:21:52
well
1:21:52
to
1:21:52
the
1:21:52
movie
1:21:53
and
1:21:53
there's
1:21:54
some
1:21:54
reasons
1:21:54
why,
1:21:55
but
1:21:55
the
1:21:55
movie
1:21:56
was
1:21:56
too
1:21:57
just.
1:21:57
Just
1:21:57
enough
1:21:58
absurd
1:21:58
that
1:21:59
it
1:21:59
was
1:21:59
good.
1:22:00
And
1:22:01
you
1:22:02
can
1:22:02
check
1:22:02
it
1:22:02
out
1:22:02
if
1:22:03
you
1:22:03
want
1:22:03
to
1:22:03
have
1:22:03
just
1:22:03
a
1:22:04
stupid
1:22:04
fun
1:22:04
time
1:22:05
and
1:22:05
have
1:22:06
some
1:22:06
nostalgia
1:22:07
for
1:22:07
the
1:22:08
90s
1:22:08
because
1:22:09
it
1:22:09
takes
1:22:09
place
1:22:10
in.
1:22:10
In.
1:22:11
In.
1:22:12
On
1:22:12
New
1:22:13
year's
1:22:13
Eve.
1:22:14
Yeah,
1:22:14
1999.
1:22:15
Right
1:22:15
when
1:22:15
I.
1:22:16
And
1:22:16
the
1:22:16
premise
1:22:17
is
1:22:17
that
1:22:17
the
1:22:18
computers
1:22:19
all
1:22:19
get
1:22:19
together
1:22:19
because
1:22:20
of
1:22:20
the
1:22:20
Y2K
1:22:20
bug
1:22:21
and
1:22:21
they
1:22:21
try
1:22:21
to
1:22:22
kill
1:22:22
humanity
1:22:23
and
1:22:23
they
1:22:24
have
1:22:24
to
1:22:24
fight
1:22:25
back.
1:22:25
So
1:22:26
play
1:22:26
really
1:22:26
close
1:22:26
attention.
1:22:27
Everything
1:22:27
he
1:22:27
just
1:22:27
said
1:22:28
can
1:22:28
totally
1:22:28
fall
1:22:29
in
1:22:29
line
1:22:29
in
1:22:29
the
1:22:29
canon
1:22:30
of
1:22:30
Futurama.
1:22:31
So
1:22:31
in
1:22:32
future,
1:22:33
robots
1:22:33
do
1:22:33
seem
1:22:33
to.
1:22:34
Destroy
1:22:34
the
1:22:34
world
1:22:34
while
1:22:34
he's
1:22:34
in
1:22:34
that
1:22:35
little
1:22:36
thing.
1:22:36
Anyway,
1:22:37
if
1:22:37
you
1:22:37
guys,
1:22:37
if
1:22:37
you're
1:22:38
on
1:22:38
the
1:22:38
laptop,
1:22:38
consider
1:22:38
radio
1:22:39
reviewing
1:22:39
our
1:22:39
show
1:22:39
on
1:22:39
podcaster
1:22:40
or
1:22:40
goodbye.
1:22:40
It's
1:22:40
gonna
1:22:41
help
1:22:41
our
1:22:41
show
1:22:41
gain
1:22:42
recognition,
1:22:42
make
1:22:42
it
1:22:42
easier
1:22:43
to
1:22:43
find
1:22:43
in
1:22:43
those
1:22:43
search
1:22:44
engines
1:22:45
like
1:22:45
Google,
1:22:45
Yahoo,
1:22:46
whatever
1:22:46
people
1:22:47
use
1:22:47
these
1:22:47
days.
1:22:47
I
1:22:47
don't
1:22:47
know
1:22:48
if
1:22:48
you're
1:22:48
on
1:22:48
your
1:22:49
phone,
1:22:49
consider
1:22:49
rating,
1:22:49
reviewing
1:22:50
or
1:22:50
commenting
1:22:50
our
1:22:50
show
1:22:50
on
1:22:51
Apple
1:22:51
Podcasts
1:22:51
or
1:22:51
Spotify.
1:22:52
It's
1:22:52
going
1:22:52
to
1:22:52
help
1:22:52
prioritize
1:22:53
our
1:22:53
show
1:22:53
in
1:22:53
those
1:22:53
algorithms
1:22:54
which
1:22:55
where
1:22:55
most
1:22:55
people
1:22:55
listen
1:22:55
to
1:22:55
podcasts.
1:22:56
So
1:22:56
thank
1:22:56
you
1:22:56
in
1:22:56
advance
1:22:57
for
1:22:57
that
1:22:57
free
1:22:57
support.
1:22:58
That's
1:22:58
only
1:22:58
going
1:22:58
to
1:22:58
take
1:22:58
you
1:22:58
like
1:22:59
10
1:22:59
seconds
1:22:59
to
1:22:59
write
1:22:59
that
1:22:59
rate
1:23:00
review.
1:23:00
Literally
1:23:01
hitting
1:23:01
like
1:23:01
thumbs
1:23:02
up
1:23:02
for
1:23:02
five
1:23:02
stars
1:23:02
takes
1:23:03
so
1:23:03
little
1:23:04
time
1:23:04
and
1:23:04
it
1:23:04
helps
1:23:04
us
1:23:04
so
1:23:05
much
1:23:05
and
1:23:05
we
1:23:05
really
1:23:05
appreciate
1:23:05
it.
1:23:06
Again,
1:23:06
we
1:23:07
want
1:23:07
to
1:23:07
thank
1:23:08
one
1:23:08
of
1:23:08
our
1:23:08
sponsors.
1:23:08
We
1:23:09
always
1:23:09
like
1:23:09
to
1:23:09
shout
1:23:09
out
1:23:09
a
1:23:09
sponsor
1:23:10
from
1:23:10
Apple
1:23:10
Podcast
1:23:11
Captivator,
1:23:11
Patreon.
1:23:11
Today
1:23:12
we're
1:23:12
shouting
1:23:12
out
1:23:12
Jonathan,
1:23:13
Augustus
1:23:13
and
1:23:14
Jonathan,
1:23:14
you're
1:23:15
amazing.
1:23:15
We
1:23:15
love
1:23:15
you.
1:23:16
You
1:23:16
rock.
1:23:17
Guys,
1:23:17
if
1:23:17
you
1:23:17
want
1:23:18
your
1:23:18
own
1:23:18
shout
1:23:18
out,
1:23:18
you
1:23:19
want
1:23:19
to
1:23:19
be
1:23:19
like
1:23:19
Jonathan,
1:23:20
you
1:23:20
too
1:23:20
can
1:23:21
support
1:23:21
our
1:23:21
show
1:23:21
for
1:23:21
$3
1:23:21
a
1:23:22
month
1:23:22
on
1:23:22
one
1:23:22
of
1:23:22
those
1:23:22
three
1:23:22
platforms.
1:23:23
Apple
1:23:23
Podcast,
1:23:23
Cat
1:23:23
Feeder,
1:23:24
Patreon.
1:23:24
And
1:23:25
remember,
1:23:25
we're
1:23:26
all
1:23:26
a
1:23:27
chosen
1:23:27
people,
1:23:28
a
1:23:28
geekdom
1:23:29
of
1:23:29
priests.