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Week 10 Picks with Cynthia Frelund · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we definitely believe in the
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  Speaker 1: fired coach principle. I'm Greg Rosenthal in the Chris Wesley Podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Alongside my friend and free of the fired coach principal.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll get to that in just a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I know where you're going with you. You know where
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to obviously, But the dead coach bounce, it's
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  Speaker 1: coming up in this show. But very happy to be
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  Speaker 1: next to my friend Cynthia and happy for once to
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  Speaker 1: be recapping our records on this man versus model segment
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  Speaker 1: that we do. Look at us each and every week.
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  Speaker 1: I finally had an undefeated week. It was coming, it
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  Speaker 1: was slowly coming. So I had a three and zero
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  Speaker 1: week last week, fourteen and thirteen, you know, just over
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  Speaker 1: five hundred rounds. Cynthia keeps stacking up those two and
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  Speaker 1: one weeks, a lot of winning weeks lately. So between
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  Speaker 1: the two of us five and one last week, we're
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  Speaker 1: failing good.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna try to build on that. Yeah, we are
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  Speaker 1: three games against the spread. That's what we do each week.
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  Speaker 1: We joined forces last week, yep, fading the Cowboys. That
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  Speaker 1: was smart of us. We both hit that, so that
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  Speaker 1: was a good job. So we could agree on one
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  Speaker 1: of these pics. But I'm gonna let you take the
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  Speaker 1: first one.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it again. I'm fading the Cowboys again.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so am I I have the Eagles covering
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  Speaker 2: these seven and a half point spread.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is a ridiculously low number.
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  Speaker 4: Are you higher one? Now?
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  Speaker 1: No, that's one of mine too. I saw it was
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  Speaker 1: at seven when I looked this morning. But yes, go
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  Speaker 1: go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so whatever, seven, seven, seven and a half. I'm
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  Speaker 3: fading to.
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  Speaker 2: Either way because that is actually the same thing, right,
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  Speaker 2: seven and whatever. So, long story short, I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles here are in much better position to take
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  Speaker 2: advantage of a reeling Cowboys team. I think a lot
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  Speaker 2: of changes are coming their way, even though at the
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  Speaker 2: trade deadline they were buyers and nuts sellers.
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  Speaker 3: I love your face with that. I was kind of
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  Speaker 3: hoping to see what you would say.
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  Speaker 2: But long story short, I'm not I can't eight points.
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  Speaker 1: No, we're joining forces again because this was the one
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  Speaker 1: I felt best about. So once again we're going against
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think it's gonna come in handy. Just
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  Speaker 1: give it to me. Inject this one into my veins
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  Speaker 1: this game. So it's one thing, just like looking at
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  Speaker 1: the football of it all, I think, just the football
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  Speaker 1: out of it all, taking Dak Prescott out of the mix.
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  Speaker 1: But even if he was in the mix, if this
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  Speaker 1: was four or five with Dak Prescott, I would love
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  Speaker 1: to do it.
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  Speaker 4: Just how these two teams are playing.
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  Speaker 1: Eagles as a top ten type of team in total efficiency,
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys as a bottom six or seven type of team
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  Speaker 1: in total efficiency. The two line plays like the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line of the Eagles versus this Cowboys D line, even
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  Speaker 1: if Mike's back, total domination, and then vice versa. The
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  Speaker 1: Eagles defense has been playing a lot better lately.
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  Speaker 3: Can I ask you an unanswerable question, why isn't a
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  Speaker 3: tree Lance?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I think it will be in a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks because Cooper Rush is better at playing quarterback at
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  Speaker 1: the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: He's a ok Okay, let's just we're getting off track here.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to understand this a little bit. I'm I'm,
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  Speaker 2: I'm Mike McCarthy. I have Dak is out, he's hurt. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I have a chance here to get a free
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  Speaker 2: look at who's on my roster.
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  Speaker 3: I already know what Cooper Rush is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he's just worrying about saving his job,
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  Speaker 1: the little chance that he has Cynthia staring at the
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  Speaker 1: camera like she's jimm from the office.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he just thinks the best chance.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, On Krasinski, that is my new alter ego.
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  Speaker 1: The best chance, I think would be winning games that
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  Speaker 1: you're not expected to win, and he thinks Cooper Rush
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  Speaker 1: gives him a better chance.
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  Speaker 4: To do that.
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  Speaker 1: Although you could also argue the only chance you would
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  Speaker 1: ever have is do something creative with Trey Lance and
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  Speaker 1: make Trey Lance look good. But what are the Mike
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  Speaker 1: McCarthy could do any of that?
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  Speaker 2: So wouldn't you say, like, Okay, I'm Mike McCarthy, Let's
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  Speaker 2: make Trey Lance look awesome. So then I have this
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  Speaker 2: great trade bait for later and see, ha ha, look
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  Speaker 2: what I've done.
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  Speaker 3: I've created value for you, Like I don't know, just maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody You're absolutely right there, Maybe somebody somewhere can The
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  Speaker 1: process with the Cowboys is all wrong. It's why getting
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Mingo is all wrong. It's not about oh wow,
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  Speaker 1: this is a cost controlled contract. That's why it costs
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: out there, Hopkins It's like, Okay, but you got to
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  Speaker 1: take into a county's cheap for three more years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you got to take into a county. Can't play that,
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  Speaker 1: He that he can't get open that the tape is brutal,
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  Speaker 1: and teams always overvalue their college evaluation of a player
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  Speaker 1: when the NFL tape is so much more important.
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  Speaker 3: Why would I want to admit I'm wrong about anything?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, why would I ever want to say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I got this one wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Well, come back to us.
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  Speaker 1: If both Cynthia and I get this wrong, then we
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  Speaker 1: deserve Yeah, we deserved to observe.
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  Speaker 4: We're feeling good.
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  Speaker 1: We're now want to know when joining forces at least
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  Speaker 1: in the last one week.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's a Grinthia.
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  Speaker 1: I think we I think we did join forces earlier
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  Speaker 1: in the season. And yeah, like this is where you
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  Speaker 1: need a coach to get creative offensively.
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  Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy is not that guy. This isn't a game.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Eagles will play for with their
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  Speaker 1: food at all because it's the Cowboys. It's their rivals,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Hurts has been very composed lately. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of big plays They've had dominant stretches. I know they
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  Speaker 1: messed up at the end of that Jaguars game, but
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  Speaker 1: from the second half of that Bengals game through the
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  Speaker 1: first half of that Jaguars game, they were steamrolling team.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, we're both on the Eagles. Give me your second pick?
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  Speaker 3: Well you're do you want to You're.
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  Speaker 4: That was my pick though, too, So we're well, each have.
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  Speaker 2: One golf rules. You should have actually started this off.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, whatever, Minnesota and the points please.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So now that we're taking food.
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  Speaker 2: From a baby, I want to keep our good record going.
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  Speaker 2: At the moment we're taping this, we do not think
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  Speaker 2: that Trevor.
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  Speaker 1: Lawrence is playing. No, there's no reason too, right, So
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  Speaker 1: it's a touchdown. Now, it's up to a touchdown? Fine, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're good with it. Fine, give me a touchdown?
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  Speaker 4: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is Aaron Jones playing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Okay? Is Justin Jefferson? Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not scared by anything that could
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  Speaker 2: be happening.
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  Speaker 3: There is a CJ. Bethard, who is it?
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be mac Jones, right, But then you
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  Speaker 1: would think although they haven't announced it, and then CJ.
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  Speaker 4: Bethor and he.
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  Speaker 2: Said at the tree deals, like we wanted to get
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  Speaker 2: him back on this roster to be the backup. Like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what all I'm saying is, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: scared of Mac Jones.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be either. I like that one. I should
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  Speaker 1: have written that in my box. Maybe I will. I'll
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  Speaker 1: join you to m fake Midwestern Axtho Minnesota.
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota there.
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  Speaker 3: Even better than I thought it was gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because they've they had such bad vibes I do.
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  Speaker 1: I hate talking about vibes when we're talking check this
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  Speaker 1: and everything, but it's one of the reasons why I
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  Speaker 1: feel so good about the Cowboys, that the vibes of
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  Speaker 1: their starting quarterback saying we effen Tuck and Mike McCarthy's
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  Speaker 1: slamming down and them just making mind boggling decisions in
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  Speaker 1: terms of their play calling with the fake punts and everything, like,
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  Speaker 1: the vibes are down horrendous.
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  Speaker 4: I give Doug Peterson a little credit.
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  Speaker 3: Vibes are low. Vibes are low.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Wish and I were there as they were getting
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  Speaker 1: steamrolled in London, and that team seems so disconnected and
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  Speaker 1: they've actually played pretty hard since then, like even in
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  Speaker 1: last week's game. They could have laid down when they
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  Speaker 1: were down big against the Eagles, and they battled back
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  Speaker 1: a little.
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  Speaker 4: So they've got some players.
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  Speaker 1: I think they'll try, but that's not gonna be enough
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  Speaker 1: when you have Mac Jones behind a bad offensive line
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  Speaker 1: against Brian Flores's defense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I just don't think that there's anything
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  Speaker 2: I'm not scared of this offense. I was on Minnesota side.
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  Speaker 2: It was only four points when it was Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 2: But I was on Minnesota side for more than four
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  Speaker 2: points when it was Trevor Lawrence. So why would I
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  Speaker 2: not think that with a change of quarterback, that's seven
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  Speaker 2: would be very achievable.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. That was not one of the
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  Speaker 1: ones I wrote down. I'm still debating on my third pick.
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  Speaker 1: I'll see if you take it. But my second pick
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  Speaker 1: is something more powerful than x as and O's. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's believing in something more than just what's on the
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  Speaker 1: field and the players.
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  Speaker 4: It's believing in a higher power.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta know Patrick Love's momentum.
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  Speaker 1: No, it is the fired coach principle. It's the fired
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  Speaker 1: coach bounce. If ever there was a fired coach bounce.
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  Speaker 1: It is Dennis Allen because based on the report's out
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  Speaker 1: there and piecing a few things together, I believe that
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  Speaker 1: the players essentially fired Dennis Allen. That literally there was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a connection. The reports have come out that
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  Speaker 1: was essentially ownership. The GM the front office didn't disagree,
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  Speaker 1: but there was conversations between ownership and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: the players. I mean, these players helped to get rid
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  Speaker 1: of this coach. Whether indirectly or directly. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was directly. They're going to be playing their hearts at now.
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  Speaker 1: Normally I would say this is such a great spot
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  Speaker 1: for the Saints because of that. No matter what, then
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  Speaker 1: you throw in the Falcons factor. This is a rivalry,
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  Speaker 1: great game. You throw out the records in the rivalry game.
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  Speaker 1: Every Saints Falcons game comes down to an insane play
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  Speaker 1: that you can't believe happened at the very end, unless
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  Speaker 1: it's Jameis Winston calling a touchdown on the goal line
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  Speaker 1: for Jamal Williams. That was actually a blowout, but that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't insane play at the end. So the number here
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  Speaker 1: is four. Saints are plus four. They don't have to
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  Speaker 1: win the game. I'm going to pick them straight up
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  Speaker 1: on our show game debut just to spicy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel as good about that as I do about getting
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  Speaker 1: plus four. But they did have some good players come
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  Speaker 1: back to Cynthia. Caesar Ruiz return last week. I hope
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  Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick is back for this game. He was in
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  Speaker 1: and out last week. Taysom Hill was back, and I
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  Speaker 1: do think it'll be their defense plane. And I do
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  Speaker 1: think the division familiarity and the rivalry game and the
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  Speaker 1: higher power that is the fired coach principle that they
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  Speaker 1: cover this for.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my only problem with that is the Marshawn
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  Speaker 2: Lattimore not being their piece along with.
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  Speaker 4: He's hardly anyways get it.
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  Speaker 2: But it does take a difference, make a difference. It
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  Speaker 2: takes a lot away from them. And also they just
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  Speaker 2: haven't been tackling on defense. I still have not seen
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  Speaker 2: them be really stout with their tackling. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that was a hey, hey, guys, let's band together to
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  Speaker 2: get Tennis oll And fired by not tackling these guys.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know, I'm with you in the in
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  Speaker 2: the fired coach principle. The math is different. However, I
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  Speaker 2: get it. It's not one of mine that I feel
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  Speaker 2: really strong, but.
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  Speaker 1: Tackling might be an effort thing, a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a like, let's be totally focused on the details. We've
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  Speaker 1: got some really prideful veterans, Tyron Matthew, cam Jordan, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Carl Granderson send me out instagrams like saying, this is
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  Speaker 1: me walking into work this morning and he's singing and
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  Speaker 1: dancing like the how bad it.
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  Speaker 3: Was, Dennis Allen.
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  Speaker 2: If they're doing this stuff, I don't know, but these
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  Speaker 2: are grown ass men.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, these are grown but men.
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  Speaker 2: It's Sarah F're they're not like young ones, see Like
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're young, but they're not like the new
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  Speaker 2: guys on the team.
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  Speaker 4: This is their super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: If I was going to pick the Saints to win
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  Speaker 1: one game the rest of the season, this is that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, but I'm just very confused about I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. It just seems like a lot of effort
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  Speaker 2: to like, you know what's funny, I've actually the maybe
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  Speaker 2: I'm not influenced enough, but I have not used social
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  Speaker 2: media at all this week, like not even a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: So I haven't seen our mental health move.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, I gotta protect the mentals, you know, So I
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  Speaker 2: haven't seen like any of the players stuff. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: only hearing it secondhand, which is actually maybe I need
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  Speaker 2: to come get all of my kneeds.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: You can't put that into the model. The model needs
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  Speaker 4: to be on emotional.
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  Speaker 2: But if I like to see you know, I've literally
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  Speaker 2: only been reading like press conference recaps that we get
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  Speaker 2: in our email, like that's that is where I have
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  Speaker 2: been this week.
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  Speaker 3: I've nama stayed it smart.
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  Speaker 4: I think that was a healthy.
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  Speaker 3: And sometimes sometimes I make good decision.
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  Speaker 4: Productive move. You make great decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Just look at your fiance, all right, let's look at
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  Speaker 1: your dogs, all right.
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  Speaker 4: Your third and final.
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  Speaker 3: Pick, My third and final pick. You know, I I.
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  Speaker 2: Think I was going to do one that was a
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  Speaker 2: little less spicy, but I'm you know what, I'm feeling
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  Speaker 2: quite spiceful right now.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm going to take Denver and eight points.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that was That's one of the two I'm as
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  Speaker 1: my next pick. Really, I think I'm that now I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to go off of you.
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  Speaker 3: You should go off of it, then we can get more.
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  Speaker 4: That was where I was leaning for most of the week.
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  Speaker 4: I love it. You explain why you love it.
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  Speaker 2: I think Enver last week they got routed, we get it,
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  Speaker 2: but they were doing some weird stuff. They were doing
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  Speaker 2: run blitzes, not their usual pass blitz I don't think
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  Speaker 2: they win, but I think eight is too much of
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  Speaker 2: a difference. I think it's more like five or four
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  Speaker 2: even something like that. We haven't seen anything from this
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs team, who's undefeated and maybe looking ahead to next
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  Speaker 2: week for Buffalo. This is the classic trap trap game situation,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So I just don't think. While I believe
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  Speaker 2: that the Chiefs probably win, I don't. And they have
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  Speaker 2: not been winning the easy way at all this season.
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  Speaker 2: They do not like to take the easy way out.
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  Speaker 2: They do not like to make their fans not have
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  Speaker 2: a heart attack. They're winning close games. Their defense is
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  Speaker 2: really good, but so too are the Broncos on defense.
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  Speaker 2: Their defense is way better than it looked against the Ravens.
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  Speaker 2: That was a weird outlier of a game. Remember last
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  Speaker 2: year we saw like a sixty pointer, you know, against
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  Speaker 2: sixty burger with a freakin Dolphins, and that was not.
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  Speaker 3: Indicative of who they were.
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  Speaker 2: So and if you extracted all the Derrick Henry data
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  Speaker 2: from what they've done this season overall, even without Baron Browning,
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about their ability to get some pressure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm so with you on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, these two teams faced off against these other
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  Speaker 1: twice in three weeks. The Vance Joseph led Broncos held
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes to fourteen points a game. Now that was
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  Speaker 1: early when the Chiefs were struggling. No, they never totally
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  Speaker 1: got over but I do think that matters when it's
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  Speaker 1: the same coaching staff. The Broncos beat them actually in
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  Speaker 1: one of those games, twenty four to nine, so they
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  Speaker 1: split last year. They weren't giving up points. This is
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  Speaker 1: a better Broncos defense. They're on a short week. Kansas
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  Speaker 1: City is they played eighty three plays on offense last week,
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  Speaker 1: and that's always on my raider radar when there's a
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  Speaker 1: huge play total and everyone always focuses on the defense.
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  Speaker 1: For instance, you know you can look at the Bucks.
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  Speaker 1: Defense is gonna be tired and all the defense gonna
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  Speaker 1: be tired. They played eighty three plays. Well, offenses can't
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  Speaker 1: get tired. I mean eighty three perls.
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  Speaker 2: Defenses don't get tired. Don't you know that they only
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  Speaker 2: defensive players get tired.
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  Speaker 4: So short week we had eighty three plays.
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  Speaker 1: It's division matchup, which I think I'll always stress know
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  Speaker 1: the record out. No, I don't throw it out, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it shrinks the margins a little bit some history.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you.
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  Speaker 1: I think the Broncos are a good enough team that
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  Speaker 1: they bounced back. That was gonna be my third pick.
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  Speaker 3: But I think you should go off of it because
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  Speaker 3: then we I.
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  Speaker 4: Will We're not gonna talk to you long.
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  Speaker 1: That'll be in box the Broncos plus eight because I
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  Speaker 1: did agree that was probably going to be my third pick.
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  Speaker 1: But now I don't feel as comfortable here because I'm
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: it's not a Homer pick but the Bear the Bears
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: are so bad offensively that I'm taking the Patriots and
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: the points.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Can I say something it's a little off topic here, please,
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: Can Bears fans keep their grubby bear pause off of
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: my offensive coordinator until least the end of the season.
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: Please. I want Ben Johnson.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: To get a look at a head coach if that's
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: what he wants, but not till the end of the season.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: Bears fan, get out of my mentions about that. I
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: get keep your grubby bear pause off a hit.
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: I would want him totally out of the division in general.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: If I'm been johning out of my grubby bear. I
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: don't want to be in the NFC North going up
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: against Lafleur and O'Connell and Dan Campbell like that's.
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: But bear, I know Bears fans want it, and I'm
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: taking it as a big compliment.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: But not yet, not yet.
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: Everyone everyone Benjo, Saints fans will want him.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: He's not going to the Saints.
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: He's not.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: He's not stupid, is Yeah. It's gonna be tough a Trochi.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: They have like thirty nine million for Marshall Lattimore.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Man, So this one's tough because I hate It's gonna
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: pain me even more if the Patriots don't cover this
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: six because you know I root for them. But the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Bears are so bad offensively right now. They're they're lost,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: and you can look at what they did with those
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: couple games against bad defenses. The Patriots are a bad defense.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: That tape they put out there last week against the
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Cardinals was embarrassing. The effort from some of the receivers
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: hasn't been great, like they're they're not on their details.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: The offensive line's bad. Caleb looks a little shook it,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: I would say, because things aren't happening in front of
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: them how they're supposed to happen. Drake May to me,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: looks more comfortable if we're looking between the two rookie quarterbacks.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: And so they just are a team that has so
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: many problems that I love to just take points against
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: a team with that many problems. I know defens will
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: either better. I would still pick them to win, but
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: six points is too much for me. I'm taking the Patriots.
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: The things that I feel strongly about in this game
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: are Ramandri Stevenson still being worth a fantasy play, same
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: with him potentially getting in the end zone because Andrew
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Billings is not playing, that's their.
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: Big defensive tackle. That's a big, huge, massive deal.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: And also if Montes Sweat doesn't play, it will change
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: how I feel about how close this game is. I
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: still think the Bears win because of their defense. They
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: do maybe get some of that secondary back that they've
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: been missing.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: That's a big deal.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Plus, I do think, like I do believe that they're
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: going to get some of these heavier personnel formations down,
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: like maybe use twelve once in a while, maybe throw
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: you know, an extra alignment out there to help your
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: guy know what's going on. It hasn't looked pretty on
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: deep passes, and a lot of that is because Caleb
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: Williams has been running for his life, so.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Help help him out. Help a rookie out right.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: He just it's like their their ePaper play numbers. It's
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: it's everything. I think he's part of it. I think
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: he's holding onto the ball too long sometimes and no,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: no one's comfortable. So it's the coaching and it's not
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: working on what's happening with with Caleb, And yeah, maybe
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I'll be wrong. It is not always the best thing
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to go off of vibes, but the vibes there are
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: so horrendous and sometimes vibes like like the Saints last
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: week with the Panthers, I don't know how they lost
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that game, but somehow the power of the vibes were
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: so strong that they found a way to lose that.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: And what's happening, like Matt Eberflus is holding that play
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: sheet so tight right now. The players seem so unhappy.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: They're asking DJ Moore if like he should be you know,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: if he's lost the locker room. He's like, I I'd
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: like to say, no, I mean that that is all
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: concerning I think, I just think this game could be tight.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if the Bears lose this game outright,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: just because of all the negativity. So I will take
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the six points. That'll be my third two recap.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: But wait, don't you want the kind of want the
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Patriots maybe not to win this because right now they're
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: sitting pretty pick number one.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: That's true, it's a long way to go.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: They'll probably win, you know, one game at some point
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, But like it would be nice.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Don't give it to the Panthers.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: It would be nice.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Steal it for yourself.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: You got a long way to go here.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: You already have a quarterback. That'd be fun.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you have the first pick, and maybe you
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: can trade down, pick up a ton of picks.
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: To consider.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you took the Eagles. I took the Eagles were
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: aligned there, Crinthia, we're at minus seven according.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: To take it at minus seven, the.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Vikings you're taking at minus seven, and then we both
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: like the Broncos. Officially, you will be the only one
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: with the Broncos plus eight my three picks where the
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Eagles were together, and then the Pats plus six and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: the Saints plus four. Now, this is a week where
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: I had a lot in the box because I'm coming
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: off of three in a week. You end up feeling
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: more confident and suddenly everything looks big. It's like it's
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: like when you're hitting threes.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Like, yeah, this is fine, looks.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: A little bigger. So I like the Rams minus one
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: on Monday Night. I just think I think they're a
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: better team than the Dolphins. I know you're on the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: other side of that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I'm on the exact other side of it.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Don't care.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Rams probably getting two offensive linemen back for this game,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: which is a really big deal.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: We'll see, but they're practicing.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: It sounds pretty optimistic that they get They could get
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Steve Avula and Jonah Jackson back.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: I think they're better.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I just think the Dolphins are a team defensively that
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: are finding ways to lose. So it'll probably be a
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: close game, but I like the Rams to win. And
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: then going over to Berlin, I like the Panthers plus
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: six and a half. You're gonna give me six and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: a half points as a Giants team, and Bryce Young
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: has been playing better lately. I think he's played better
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I think that ends up
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: being a close game and the Panthers cover the six
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: and a half, and then you threw the Vikings in.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: So that's gonna be in my box too.
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: You know what's hilarious.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I actually think Daniel Jones throws for over one and
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: a half touchdowns. Okay, that game, sure, I could see
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: that being out set four games where he's done it
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: more of an entertaining game than people would under than
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: expect because Theo Johnson Molik neighbors, the Giants defense finds
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: a way to mess things up. Bryce Ank's playing a
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: little better, and it's something like twenty six to twenty two,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: and they cover that twenty six to twenty three.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: I just think Daniel Jones two touchdowns.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, Cynthia's going strong on the two touchdowns.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I know it's random.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: That is it for our picks Man versus Model Week
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: number ten. We're on a roll. We're both over five hundred.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Let's keep this winning streak going. It has been a
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: great week here on NFL Daily. We said goodbye to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: our good friend Randy Chavez, so we we wish him
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: all the best.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: In the future endeavors.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: We will be back on Sunday with the Recapito, Nick Shook,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond. Momentum, Yes, and all the momentum you can handle.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Look when I'm picking a Bears team to start imploding,
• 21:02
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• 21:03
  Speaker 2: See you the