Latest / The Ben Maller Show / The Fifth Hour: Signed, Sealed, Delivered
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Kabbooms.
- 0:02Speaker 2: If you thought four hours a day, twelve hundred minutes
- 0:05Speaker 2: a week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants
- 0:09Speaker 2: of the Old Republic, a soul fashion of fairness. He
- 0:12Speaker 2: treats crackheads in the ghetto Cutter the same as the
- 0:15Speaker 2: rich pill poppers in the penthouse Wow. The Clearinghouse of
- 0:19Speaker 2: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour
- 0:23Speaker 2: with Ben Maller starts right now in.
- 0:29Speaker 1: The air everywhere. The Fifth Hour with Me, Ben Mahler
- 0:35Speaker 1: and Danny g Radio will join me over the course
- 0:38Speaker 1: of the weekend. He is producing this podcast today, but
- 0:42Speaker 1: we are locked in the pod studio early on this
- 0:47Speaker 1: Friday morning, back at it after a few rare and
- 0:51Speaker 1: appropriate days away back in the podcast sweatshop, and on
- 0:55Speaker 1: this podcast we've got signed, sealed and delivered and check
- 1:00Speaker 1: the inbox and some other surprises along the way. But
- 1:04Speaker 1: we begin with this. So we are recording this live
- 1:07Speaker 1: on digital tape, as we like to say, later than normal.
- 1:12Speaker 1: And the reason that we are doing that is because
- 1:15Speaker 1: Uncle Benny did not want to disturb his nieces that
- 1:19Speaker 1: we're sleeping right next door to the remote studio where
- 1:24Speaker 1: we do the overnight show from occasionally and also do
- 1:28Speaker 1: this podcast. There is an adjacent bedroom which has a
- 1:33Speaker 1: very thin wall with bad insulation, and that is where
- 1:38Speaker 1: much of the audio magic comes from on this side
- 1:41Speaker 1: of the wall. We didn't want to disturb the people
- 1:43Speaker 1: on the other side of the wall. As much as
- 1:46Speaker 1: I wanted to get in here and bark early in
- 1:48Speaker 1: the morning, would have caused a great disruption to the
- 1:53Speaker 1: beauty sleep and did not want to upset my twenty
- 1:57Speaker 1: something nieces. So nevertheless, here we are. Now the big
- 2:03Speaker 1: news of the week. Well, I took a couple of
- 2:07Speaker 1: again rare inappropriate days away from the radio show. There
- 2:10Speaker 1: was no holdout, There was no hashtag, there was no drama,
- 2:14Speaker 1: there was no hostage video that was released. There was
- 2:18Speaker 1: no I want to be traded to some other team
- 2:22Speaker 1: that did not happen. No, just a pen, a paper,
- 2:28Speaker 1: maybe some docu sign new a multi year deal, done
- 2:33Speaker 1: the way things used to be done. Quietly. You know.
- 2:37Speaker 1: I realized I am in the talk radio business and
- 2:40Speaker 1: that we liked the contract holdout in pro football because
- 2:45Speaker 1: it's good for business. However, my business done on the
- 2:51Speaker 1: down low, the DL, as we used to say, So
- 2:54Speaker 1: we did not announce that there were extension talks going
- 2:59Speaker 1: on on this podcast or the talk show. In fact,
- 3:03Speaker 1: technically I was working without a contract for a couple
- 3:08Speaker 1: of weeks. My contract had run out, so at that
- 3:11Speaker 1: point I was a free agent, even though I was
- 3:14Speaker 1: still getting the microphone time at Fox Sports Radio. But
- 3:18Speaker 1: we did not leak the news to a trusted source,
- 3:22Speaker 1: not that there's many of those people left trusted sources.
- 3:25Speaker 1: There was no campaign on the gram featuring my dog
- 3:30Speaker 1: Moxie wearing a T shirt saying pay me. There was
- 3:34Speaker 1: none of that. No, no, we signed this new multi
- 3:39Speaker 1: year deal. We did it behind closed doors, under the
- 3:42Speaker 1: cover of darkness, which, if you know the Malor brand
- 3:49Speaker 1: over the years, that's about as on brand as it gets.
- 3:54Speaker 1: And so let's be honest here now, there was a
- 3:57Speaker 1: point where we thought this would not be happening, where
- 4:01Speaker 1: it all might come tumbling down like a wobbly Jenga
- 4:06Speaker 1: tower tipping over and hitting the floor, pieces flying everywhere.
- 4:11Speaker 1: So let's go back on the hot tub time machine
- 4:14Speaker 1: to a sad moment on the history of the show
- 4:18Speaker 1: and in a moment where at the time I was
- 4:21Speaker 1: at the very top I thought of the mountain. Let's
- 4:24Speaker 1: go back to November mid November twenty twenty four, I
- 4:29Speaker 1: had returned from a very brief trip to Cansa City,
- 4:34Speaker 1: had returned from Kansas City after a VIP weekend. They
- 4:39Speaker 1: rolled out the red carpet, had a penthouse, hotel room,
- 4:44Speaker 1: the airfare, everything taken care of courtesy of the landing
- 4:48Speaker 1: in Liberty, Missouri, the home of the Ben Mallard Chicken
- 4:52Speaker 1: fingers and my friend Bob Fesco, the big morning star
- 4:57Speaker 1: at the fan in Cansa City. I went in there
- 5:00Speaker 1: and you guys showed up from all over the Upper Midwest.
- 5:04Speaker 1: We had people come down from Iowa, Nebraska, obviously Missouri
- 5:07Speaker 1: where we were doing the broadcast Kansas which is right
- 5:10Speaker 1: across the way there, and it was awesome. I had
- 5:13Speaker 1: a great turnout. People were very kind. And then I
- 5:16Speaker 1: got back and I walked into an audio bloodbath. The
- 5:21Speaker 1: company had whacked the great Eddie Garcia steamboat. Willie, my
- 5:27Speaker 1: longtime Update anchor, partner in crime after more than two
- 5:32Speaker 1: decades at Fox Sports Radio. That's it now. As you know,
- 5:38Speaker 1: for all of us, the experience of you a listener
- 5:41Speaker 1: me doing the show that was a major, major gut punch,
- 5:46Speaker 1: the kind of sudden move that makes you realize yet again,
- 5:50Speaker 1: how fragile these gigs really are, the fragility of the
- 5:56Speaker 1: business that I have chosen my life's profession. You see,
- 6:01Speaker 1: there was no golden watch that was handed out. There
- 6:04Speaker 1: was no farewell tour. I don't like those anyway, just
- 6:08Speaker 1: a thanks for everything. It's not you, it's us. And
- 6:13Speaker 1: then a vanishing act of Eddie that reminded everyone who's
- 6:21Speaker 1: involved in the business that you're only secure until you're not.
- 6:27Speaker 1: And listen, we have built a freakishly loyal cult audience,
- 6:34Speaker 1: which hopefully you're part of. You're listening to the Fifth
- 6:37Speaker 1: Hour podcast and I think you're in that. It's my opinion,
- 6:41Speaker 1: but you're listening to the radio show and the Witching Hours.
- 6:47Speaker 1: However you consume this stuff, it doesn't matter. Right, We
- 6:51Speaker 1: started to wonder if our number was next. My deal
- 6:55Speaker 1: was up in the summer, just a couple of weeks ago,
- 6:59Speaker 1: in July of twenty twenty five. So you do the
- 7:02Speaker 1: math on that. You say, well, Eddie and Eddie got
- 7:05Speaker 1: let go in November and then my deal is up,
- 7:10Speaker 1: and okay, you put two and two together. You're like, well,
- 7:13Speaker 1: this isn't good. That's not good. And if Eddie could go,
- 7:18Speaker 1: I certainly could go. I'm not giving a lifetime contract
- 7:23Speaker 1: or anything like that. So one thing about getting into
- 7:26Speaker 1: the industry at a pretty young age you learn at
- 7:30Speaker 1: an early point in life that not only life is temporary,
- 7:37Speaker 1: but the business you have chosen is temporary. This is
- 7:42Speaker 1: not something that you normally do for a long time,
- 7:44Speaker 1: certainly not in one place, which makes what has happened
- 7:49Speaker 1: to me in my situation even more outrageous and more
- 7:53Speaker 1: crazy and all that stuff. Radio, especially talk radio, does
- 7:59Speaker 1: not offer long term leases. It does not you You're
- 8:03Speaker 1: always month to month, at best your month to month.
- 8:07Speaker 1: And while these jobs are hard to get, they're even
- 8:11Speaker 1: harder to keep. And if you manage to stick around,
- 8:15Speaker 1: as I like to say, you age in dog years,
- 8:19Speaker 1: a decade on the air is really like seventy seventy
- 8:25Speaker 1: years on the air. Like the format shifts, the executives change.
- 8:30Speaker 1: I have had in my time at Fox Sports Radio,
- 8:32Speaker 1: I think I've had three or four different bosses. If
- 8:36Speaker 1: I did the math on that, yeah, I've had four bosses,
- 8:38Speaker 1: four people that could have whacked me at any time.
- 8:43Speaker 1: So I've had four executives that I've had to deal with.
- 8:46Speaker 1: And then what ends up usually happening is it's not
- 8:48Speaker 1: even the executives that you deal with. It's one day
- 8:52Speaker 1: some middle manager from San Antonio tells you that your
- 8:57Speaker 1: P one numbers are strong, but your P two numbers
- 8:59Speaker 1: are soft. The quarter hours just aren't really working out
- 9:03Speaker 1: for us anymore, and suddenly you find yourself only doing
- 9:09Speaker 1: a podcast, which listen, eventually, I will only do a
- 9:11Speaker 1: podcast at some point. That is the way it's going
- 9:13Speaker 1: to go. But the point is you're only doing a podcast,
- 9:18Speaker 1: and then you're doing ads for a lawnmower blade replacement company.
- 9:23Speaker 1: And that's fine. You try to avoid that as long
- 9:27Speaker 1: as you can. And we survived for now all yet
- 9:31Speaker 1: again and listen were locked in financially for a couple
- 9:36Speaker 1: of years to the company. And we're still calling the shots,
- 9:40Speaker 1: still sitting in the catbird seat, the watch tower of
- 9:44Speaker 1: the overnight, still commandeering the overnight airwaves, like the one
- 9:50Speaker 1: man navy, writing the monologues, the bullet points of the monologues,
- 9:56Speaker 1: putting the things together for the show as a one
- 9:59Speaker 1: man op. But why do we enjoy those crazy nighttime hours?
- 10:06Speaker 1: Because for all the pressure, capital pee pressure, the late
- 10:12Speaker 1: night slot comes with something that no amount of drive
- 10:17Speaker 1: time Molah can buy you freedom. Freedom with a capital F.
- 10:26Speaker 1: And we talk about this from time to time, But
- 10:28Speaker 1: no one's breathing down my neck at three in the
- 10:31Speaker 1: morning to get me to do something that they think
- 10:37Speaker 1: needs to be done. Meaning there's no brand consultants that
- 10:41Speaker 1: are yelling at you about your tone of that monologue
- 10:45Speaker 1: or the pacing of that particular segment, or you left
- 10:50Speaker 1: that guy Jed who fled on too long. She was
- 10:53Speaker 1: on the air for too long. There's no zoom calls
- 10:55Speaker 1: filled with big buzzwords with things like synergy in platform adjacency.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. Right, you don't
- 11:04Speaker 1: have that. So those are all positive things. Those are
- 11:09Speaker 1: all positive things. You don't have to deal with the
- 11:14Speaker 1: rigamarar that a lot of those other shows have, where
- 11:18Speaker 1: there's people in management that often feel the need to
- 11:22Speaker 1: do something to justify their existence, which often means busy
- 11:27Speaker 1: body work. We don't have that. We don't have that.
- 11:31Speaker 1: They've given me the freedom of the overnight to go
- 11:35Speaker 1: in there and just get weird. Right, you get to
- 11:39Speaker 1: be weird, you get to be real, get to talk
- 11:43Speaker 1: with yes, you the listener, the audience. You don't have
- 11:48Speaker 1: to talk at anyone. I don't have to talk at you.
- 11:51Speaker 1: I don't have to sit like I'm on some mountaintop
- 11:54Speaker 1: that I'm better than you. And one thing you learn
- 11:58Speaker 1: also is that the people listening at the hour where
- 12:05Speaker 1: you should be sleep and nothing good happens after midnight,
- 12:08Speaker 1: the phrase one or two in the morning, whatever it is.
- 12:11Speaker 1: But the people that are listening, the insomniacs, the truckers,
- 12:14Speaker 1: the security guards, the cops, the robbers, the fast food workers,
- 12:19Speaker 1: the night owls, a few lost souls mixed in there.
- 12:25Speaker 1: You're not flipping around, You're not hey, you're not dabbling,
- 12:29Speaker 1: You're locked in. You listen. Many of you listen for
- 12:33Speaker 1: the entire four hours of the show, or you'll listen
- 12:37Speaker 1: for an hour. Most people in daytime radio, you're lucky
- 12:41Speaker 1: if you get them for seven or eight minutes. Very
- 12:45Speaker 1: rare that they listen that long. And the difference also
- 12:49Speaker 1: is you listen overnight and you call in, you become
- 12:53Speaker 1: part of the show. You become a character on the show.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I go out and do these meet and greets the
- 13:00Speaker 1: different towns. I've been all over the United States, from
- 13:03Speaker 1: from Maine all the way to Seattle and all over
- 13:07Speaker 1: South Carolina. We did one last year in Charleston, in
- 13:12Speaker 1: southern California, all over the place. And always somebody will say, hey,
- 13:17Speaker 1: what's so and so like, And it's a caller to
- 13:20Speaker 1: the show. They're like, Hey, what's that person like? And
- 13:23Speaker 1: so that's one of the reasons you don't leave something
- 13:25Speaker 1: like this. And sure could I have jumped to a
- 13:28Speaker 1: morning show somewhere or afternoon drive and made a lot
- 13:32Speaker 1: more money. Absolutely, I'm not getting rich doing this. I'm
- 13:36Speaker 1: not and doing a zany show, a zoo show with
- 13:41Speaker 1: goofy animal sound effects and giving away wads of cash,
- 13:48Speaker 1: or a car wash in Temecula, you know, like I
- 13:51Speaker 1: used to do at the mighty six ninety in San
- 13:54Speaker 1: Diego back in the day. We could have taken this
- 13:57Speaker 1: audience and tried to rebuild something somewhere else. Very difficult
- 14:03Speaker 1: to recreate that. We've had opportunities over the years. I've
- 14:07Speaker 1: been offered radio jobs in many cities, well three to
- 14:12Speaker 1: be exact, since I've been at Fox Sports Radio. But
- 14:15Speaker 1: fun equals funds, right because radio at night, and we
- 14:21Speaker 1: have preached the bully pulpit, from the bullie pulpit, this
- 14:25Speaker 1: and I continue to say this radio at night just
- 14:28Speaker 1: means more. It connects deeper, cuts deeper, It sticks in
- 14:33Speaker 1: your soul longer. It builds community in a way that
- 14:39Speaker 1: daylight radio cannot touch. It just can't. There's a lot
- 14:44Speaker 1: more people awake during the day, but there's a lot
- 14:47Speaker 1: of options, and people are busy and they're listening with
- 14:50Speaker 1: half an year. At night, there's less going on and
- 14:54Speaker 1: you're more locked in. And that is why the Malard
- 14:58Speaker 1: Militia as we've called it, thanks to Jahattis John and
- 15:01Speaker 1: Michigan who came up with that name, the Malard Militia
- 15:05Speaker 1: isn't just a catchy name. It's a movement, right, It's
- 15:10Speaker 1: the movement is it's a small movement. It's a movement.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Got a bunch of diehards across every time zone in
- 15:18Speaker 1: the United States. We have an international reach, but we've
- 15:21Speaker 1: got people at truck stops and people listening during the
- 15:26Speaker 1: day while I'm sleeping in office buildings who treat me
- 15:32Speaker 1: like a friend in the room, not just some random
- 15:36Speaker 1: voice in the box. What's in the box right? Not that?
- 15:42Speaker 1: And what kind of bond? You don't throw that away
- 15:47Speaker 1: for some tea time. I'm not even a golfer a
- 15:51Speaker 1: golf once a year if I'm lucky. You don't throw
- 15:54Speaker 1: that away for some tea time at nine or ten
- 15:56Speaker 1: in the morning, and then a What's trend segment? No,
- 16:02Speaker 1: So we stayed. We stayed with Premiere Networks, which is
- 16:05Speaker 1: still the top of the food chain in syndicated radio.
- 16:10Speaker 1: There is no one that does it better than the
- 16:12Speaker 1: Premiere Networks. And I recall them my younger days. I
- 16:16Speaker 1: was like, that's the gold standard. You want to work
- 16:18Speaker 1: in radio and you want to do syndicated radio, you
- 16:21Speaker 1: work for a Premiere. They were called Premiere Radio Networks
- 16:24Speaker 1: when I started. Now they're just called the Premiere Networks.
- 16:27Speaker 1: And then with Fox Sports Radio having started shortly after
- 16:31Speaker 1: the network launched, and remember being on and only markets,
- 16:35Speaker 1: the test markets. We were doing beta testing at Fox
- 16:38Speaker 1: Sports Radio in the early days, and I was the
- 16:42Speaker 1: first weekend overnight host on Fox Sports Radio. They were
- 16:45Speaker 1: playing recorded programming overnight and they gave me the Friday
- 16:51Speaker 1: and Saturday overnight shift. I was, I believe twenty five
- 16:57Speaker 1: years old or something like that. I got the overnight
- 16:59Speaker 1: show at Fox Sports Radio on the weekends, and we
- 17:03Speaker 1: were doing beta testing in Binghamton, New York, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,
- 17:09Speaker 1: and there were a couple of other small markets, but
- 17:11Speaker 1: we were only on in like four or five cities.
- 17:13Speaker 1: To start Fox Sports Radio, we had to work out
- 17:17Speaker 1: the kinks. We had to give the customer a product.
- 17:19Speaker 1: At that time, ESPN Radio was the gold standard. Everyone
- 17:23Speaker 1: had listened to that they were at the very top
- 17:25Speaker 1: of the food chain. And now you look all these
- 17:29Speaker 1: years later, and Fox Sports Radio is the gold standard.
- 17:34Speaker 1: It's been that way for years in national syndicated sports
- 17:37Speaker 1: talk radio. And so they've given me this stage with
- 17:41Speaker 1: a microphone, a moon, and a man on a mission.
- 17:46Speaker 1: And so the audio penthouse stays occupied and the show
- 17:52Speaker 1: we're not coasting along. We're evolving. We're getting bigger and
- 17:56Speaker 1: louder and stranger and hopefully better. Of course you'll be
- 18:01Speaker 1: the judge of that. So we may soon be entering
- 18:06Speaker 1: our year twenty five. Now I'm a little behind Fox
- 18:08Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Fox Sports Radio's birthday is August twenty eighth,
- 18:13Speaker 1: is when the network launched in two thousand. So I
- 18:18Speaker 1: have to wait. I haven't done the math on this.
- 18:20Speaker 1: I haven't done the math on this. I'm sure alf
- 18:23Speaker 1: or ferg Dog or someone will do the math. So
- 18:25Speaker 1: I'm six months in twenty six days. Actually seven months
- 18:29Speaker 1: in twenty six days behind that because I started about
- 18:31Speaker 1: a month after the network started, so I'm about eight
- 18:34Speaker 1: months behind. So I guess the summer. If my math
- 18:38Speaker 1: is correct, the summer of twenty twenty six will be
- 18:42Speaker 1: my twenty fifth anniversary at the company. But in talk
- 18:47Speaker 1: radio terms, that's something like, you know, twenty five years
- 18:50Speaker 1: is like eighty two and a half. I did the
- 18:52Speaker 1: math on that. The legs still work, the voice still
- 18:58Speaker 1: cuts decently, still cuts decently. Occasionally I get my vocal
- 19:03Speaker 1: cord shredded from talking so much being a one man
- 19:06Speaker 1: act on the overnight. By the end of the show,
- 19:09Speaker 1: some of you guys still laugh, some of you still
- 19:12Speaker 1: enjoy the show. And more importantly, that red on air
- 19:15Speaker 1: light that flashes outside the studio it still means something
- 19:19Speaker 1: to me. I was raised on radio. My parents worked
- 19:24Speaker 1: crazy hours. My mom ran her own business, and she'd
- 19:28Speaker 1: always have the radio on. A little fat Benny would
- 19:32Speaker 1: tag with my mom after school and she'd make her
- 19:34Speaker 1: deliveries to post offices or whatever, and I was with her,
- 19:38Speaker 1: and she always had the radio on. It always meant
- 19:40Speaker 1: a lot to her. She always would turn it up
- 19:42Speaker 1: for certain segments on the radio. My dad was the
- 19:44Speaker 1: same way, grew up listening to Art Bell through Coast
- 19:49Speaker 1: to Coast late at night. But my mom, both of
- 19:51Speaker 1: them loved, loved radio, and she would turn on in
- 19:55Speaker 1: the afternoon at five point thirty. There was a guy
- 19:59Speaker 1: named Jim He who did a sports show in LA
- 20:03Speaker 1: and she knew I liked sports, and so she turned
- 20:05Speaker 1: that on and he had all these goofy sound effects
- 20:07Speaker 1: and so I listened to that and I loved it.
- 20:10Speaker 1: And there's just something magical about doing it live. Performing
- 20:13Speaker 1: live the grid of the overnight, you don't get that
- 20:18Speaker 1: same vibe. Not that I don't love doing the podcast,
- 20:20Speaker 1: but you don't get that same vibe. And you don't
- 20:23Speaker 1: get many second acts in this business. You don't. And
- 20:27Speaker 1: so we were able to secure a third or fourth.
- 20:31Speaker 1: I don't even know what we're on now. So remember
- 20:35Speaker 1: to turn out the lot. But the party's not over.
- 20:39Speaker 1: The party's not over. And you leave that radio on
- 20:42Speaker 1: and you download the podcast, you listen to that, you
- 20:45Speaker 1: give us a good review, and you help keep this
- 20:48Speaker 1: show going as long as we can go. And we'll
- 20:51Speaker 1: just keep doing it and doing it and doing it
- 20:53Speaker 1: and doing it and doing it. And I have no
- 20:57Speaker 1: plans on stopping as long as the health is good
- 21:01Speaker 1: and life is great and I loved it. We've survived
- 21:04Speaker 1: a freaking pandemic together. We can survive just about anything. Now,
- 21:10Speaker 1: turning the page on that, you gotta check the inbox.
- 21:14Speaker 1: What's in the box? You gotta check the inbox? So
- 21:18Speaker 1: he announced your pronouns. He emailed me a few weeks back.
- 21:23Speaker 1: His name Will Will the thrill from oh Glaholma, so
- 21:32Speaker 1: he said HEREM. I almost didn't open the email. I
- 21:37Speaker 1: get inundated. This is a person named blind Scott who
- 21:42Speaker 1: is one of my crazy friends. I've known Blind Scott
- 21:46Speaker 1: since a man the early days. He was one of
- 21:48Speaker 1: the original people that fell in love with the Overnight
- 21:51Speaker 1: Show and his many service dogs. Now he can't have
- 21:55Speaker 1: a service dog anyway. Scott and I go go way back,
- 22:00Speaker 1: and he sends me literally hundreds of emails a week,
- 22:04Speaker 1: and as a result, I have to like get rid
- 22:09Speaker 1: of him, and it's hard to go through the email.
- 22:12Speaker 1: It's a whole flugezy thing. So I get this message
- 22:15Speaker 1: from Will from Oklahoma, and as I said, I almost
- 22:19Speaker 1: didn't open it, because you know, spam is everywhere other
- 22:22Speaker 1: than blind Scott, and I am not in the market
- 22:27Speaker 1: for some kind of malware by opening some email I
- 22:30Speaker 1: don't recognize, or trying to have someone sell me a
- 22:34Speaker 1: discounted timeshare or some off brand pharmaceutical products that will
- 22:40Speaker 1: promise to regrow my hair. I'm good on that. I
- 22:43Speaker 1: have a nice hat collection. But something in the subject
- 22:48Speaker 1: line caught my eye and I'm not sure what it was.
- 22:52Speaker 1: I don't think he said longtime listener, first time visitor,
- 22:56Speaker 1: although he could have said that. It turns out that
- 22:59Speaker 1: Will wasn't just another overnight zombie. No, this was a
- 23:04Speaker 1: card carrying member of the Malor militia, a real one,
- 23:09Speaker 1: authenticated and essentially from before he was even a teenager.
- 23:15Speaker 1: So he said he had been listening to the show
- 23:18Speaker 1: since he was the tender age of twelve years old.
- 23:23Speaker 1: So at age twelve he found the show. Let that
- 23:26Speaker 1: marinate in your brain for a second. For me, I
- 23:31Speaker 1: was like, that kind of reminds me of me. I
- 23:33Speaker 1: fell in love with radio around that age. I think
- 23:36Speaker 1: I started listening. I was a little younger than Will,
- 23:39Speaker 1: but right around that age, and I loved it. I loved.
- 23:42Speaker 1: I was an introvert and the radio talked to me.
- 23:45Speaker 1: It spoke to me, and I didn't have to deal
- 23:48Speaker 1: with anyone. I didn't have to talk back to it.
- 23:50Speaker 1: It just talked to me. And if I wanted it
- 23:52Speaker 1: to shut up, I just turned it off. It was wonderful.
- 23:56Speaker 1: So I've always said, and I said this earlier thing
- 24:00Speaker 1: dog years and all that. So using that analogy that
- 24:04Speaker 1: we used earlier in this fifth Hour podcast, that would
- 24:07Speaker 1: make this kid about sixty in radio terms. All right,
- 24:14Speaker 1: So he grew up in southern California, my stomping grounds,
- 24:18Speaker 1: and would sneak a transistor radio or probably a phone
- 24:23Speaker 1: with the iHeart app. You know, I don't know, I'm
- 24:25Speaker 1: old under the covers and listen to this overnight circus
- 24:30Speaker 1: that we've created. His dear old mom, he said, would
- 24:34Speaker 1: scold him for staying up too late to listen to
- 24:37Speaker 1: that gas bag. I don't know. His name might start
- 24:41Speaker 1: with a B. Maybe that would be me, and hey, listen,
- 24:46Speaker 1: I've been called worse. Now. Will told me sadly that
- 24:49Speaker 1: his mom had recently passed away from cancer, and now,
- 24:52Speaker 1: at twenty one years old, all grown up and married,
- 24:57Speaker 1: he was coming back to town. Wanted to visit the
- 25:01Speaker 1: studio just to kind of hang out, and I gave
- 25:04Speaker 1: you say thanks and all that, just to see the
- 25:07Speaker 1: place where this odd little cult show is brewed, a
- 25:13Speaker 1: nice warm brew every night. Like the bizarre stew of
- 25:19Speaker 1: many hot sports takes and Mallard monologues, goofy sound effects,
- 25:22Speaker 1: all the lunacy, all the nonsense, all the wacky callers,
- 25:26Speaker 1: all of that. Now you should know that we've had
- 25:30Speaker 1: a few bumps in the road with visitor requests. I
- 25:34Speaker 1: love opening our doors. I think that's the coolest thing.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I still get a kick out of walking into the
- 25:41Speaker 1: radio studio now again, I guess I'm getting old boomer,
- 25:46Speaker 1: not a boomer. I just feel the energy. I feel
- 25:49Speaker 1: the vibe of the microphones and all the legends that
- 25:51Speaker 1: have worked in that building. We're in the old Rush Limbaugh,
- 25:55Speaker 1: Steve Harvey compound. Just amazing people in broadcasting, some of
- 26:00Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, who entertained millions and millions
- 26:04Speaker 1: of people, and they sat in those same studios, slaving
- 26:08Speaker 1: away in the mic over the microphone. Casey Casem his
- 26:11Speaker 1: old studio is down the hall. It's our podcast studio.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Like this is just amazing, you know, the ghost of
- 26:19Speaker 1: that building, if they could talk. So I want to
- 26:22Speaker 1: let you guys in, if your friends, if I know
- 26:24Speaker 1: you from the show, and you're called in and see
- 26:27Speaker 1: that's one of the things Will told me as a
- 26:30Speaker 1: kid caller, and I had forgotten. But he went back
- 26:32Speaker 1: to the iHeart archive and sent me the clip that
- 26:36Speaker 1: Will had been a kid caller, that he'd fallen asleep
- 26:41Speaker 1: as a little kid on the air, and I'd forgotten that,
- 26:46Speaker 1: and Will sent me the audio and I kind of
- 26:48Speaker 1: refreshed my memories. There you go. So I was like,
- 26:51Speaker 1: I kind of let this guy in, come on and so,
- 26:55Speaker 1: but we did have some issues now with the visitor request.
- 26:59Speaker 1: I don't want to name anyone. However, Mike Leprechaun, you
- 27:03Speaker 1: know who you are, Mike. Mike gave us all a
- 27:06Speaker 1: mild case of PTSD. I mentioned earlier in this podcast
- 27:11Speaker 1: that my contract was coming up in the summer. And
- 27:14Speaker 1: about a month before the contract comes up, I get
- 27:17Speaker 1: all these messages from management complaining that one of my
- 27:24Speaker 1: rogue listeners had shown up into the building and violated
- 27:28Speaker 1: the security protocol and you know, going nuts on me.
- 27:33Speaker 1: So I say, oh boy, this is not good. So
- 27:36Speaker 1: again a little bit of PTSD. We don't need to
- 27:39Speaker 1: go in any more detail on that, but let's just
- 27:41Speaker 1: say you get burned once by Eleprecaun, you think twice. Still,
- 27:47Speaker 1: something about Will's story felt genuine and felt authentic, and
- 27:52Speaker 1: so we told him. I said, listen, I don't want
- 27:56Speaker 1: to be a douche. You can stop by briefly. It's
- 27:59Speaker 1: gonna be a long drive for you. If you're that motivated,
- 28:04Speaker 1: you can do it. He said his uncle. His uncle
- 28:08Speaker 1: was the guy who had indoctrinated him into the cult
- 28:13Speaker 1: of the Overnight Sports Radio World when he was twelve
- 28:15Speaker 1: years old. So we said, hey, listen, bring the uncle.
- 28:19Speaker 1: Just don't bring a posse, right, don't bring an overnight bag,
- 28:22Speaker 1: don't bring a pillow. Don't show up at noon for
- 28:27Speaker 1: the midnight visit, or you're going to get pepper sprayed.
- 28:31Speaker 1: So Will was raised properly, not by wolves. His mom
- 28:35Speaker 1: did a good job. So he followed our instructions. He
- 28:38Speaker 1: showed up with Uncle Josh, polite, normal middle aged human being,
- 28:45Speaker 1: not wearing a cape or asking to speak to the
- 28:48Speaker 1: ghost of Genie and Medford or see if he could
- 28:52Speaker 1: channel Jimmy Ray from Tampa Bay. No he didn't. So
- 28:57Speaker 1: we gave them a very brief walk behind the scenes tour.
- 29:01Speaker 1: And I say very brief because it was in the
- 29:03Speaker 1: middle of a stop set and I had to get
- 29:05Speaker 1: back behind the microphone. Nothing glamorous unless you consider the
- 29:10Speaker 1: stack of ancient show rundowns off to the side or
- 29:14Speaker 1: some stale vending machine leftovers on the Smurf kitchen glamorous.
- 29:18Speaker 1: So he met the crew. He and Josh met the crew,
- 29:22Speaker 1: saw the magical on air light and the various buttons
- 29:26Speaker 1: and gadgets in the studio. We snapped a few photographs,
- 29:30Speaker 1: We chatted for a couple of minutes, and then that's it,
- 29:33Speaker 1: he laughed. That's it. That was the visit. It wasn't long,
- 29:37Speaker 1: it was short. It was sweet. It did stick with me, though,
- 29:41Speaker 1: because here's this kid, and he's not a kid anymore.
- 29:45Speaker 1: He's all growing up. Who stayed up late with a
- 29:50Speaker 1: cheap in my head, a cheap radio and just go
- 29:54Speaker 1: with my version of the story and listen to me
- 29:57Speaker 1: ramble into the void of the darkness night. And now
- 30:00Speaker 1: he's all grown, he's working the dreaded day shift in Oklahoma.
- 30:04Speaker 1: He's still listening, still connected and granted he's a podcast guy.
- 30:11Speaker 1: He told me he listens to the podcast, which is understandable. Nevertheless,
- 30:16Speaker 1: still loyal and that's awesome. And people think no one
- 30:20Speaker 1: listens to the overnight radio. Why did he do the
- 30:23Speaker 1: Overnight show? They think it's the like a graveyard shift,
- 30:27Speaker 1: a wasteland of insomniacs and weirdos yelling at the clouds.
- 30:32Speaker 1: And while we get a lot of that, we get
- 30:34Speaker 1: a lot of the angry old guy like Jerome and
- 30:37Speaker 1: Charleston who just calls up to complain about everything, and
- 30:40Speaker 1: so some of that is true. Every once in a while, though,
- 30:45Speaker 1: one of those weirdos turns out to be just a
- 30:47Speaker 1: cute kid who's growing up and wants someone to listen to,
- 30:53Speaker 1: something to listen to, and finds the show and it's
- 30:56Speaker 1: a companion as a background soundtrack in this case to
- 31:02Speaker 1: his life. Now, did it make me feel a little bit,
- 31:05Speaker 1: a little bit and a little like the godfather of
- 31:10Speaker 1: this strange nocturnal family, the mal Or Militia that we
- 31:14Speaker 1: have built up over the years. So to Will, thank you, pal,
- 31:18Speaker 1: it was great to meet you. Will wants me to
- 31:21Speaker 1: do a Malor meat greet in Oklahoma. I've been to
- 31:23Speaker 1: Oklahoma City before. Now Will lives in a small town
- 31:27Speaker 1: in Oklahoma and not in Oklahoma City. So if I
- 31:31Speaker 1: do end up there, will I promise we'll do a
- 31:33Speaker 1: malor meat greet. But I did want to think you're
- 31:35Speaker 1: not just for listening, but for reminding me yet again,
- 31:39Speaker 1: why this thing we do in the middle of the night. Well,
- 31:44Speaker 1: ninety nine point seven percent of the population of sleeping
- 31:48Speaker 1: other than Alf and ferg Dog and mister nice guy
- 31:51Speaker 1: and a few others still matters right now again, Will
- 31:56Speaker 1: you got to get some sleep during the nighttime hours
- 31:59Speaker 1: because you work the dreaded day shift. You've got a
- 32:01Speaker 1: family to support. You're all married, So welcome to adulthood,
- 32:05Speaker 1: and thank you, thank you, thank you. Will and on
- 32:11Speaker 1: that we will put the baby to bed. We'll have
- 32:14Speaker 1: some new podcast all weekend and get you caught up
- 32:18Speaker 1: on the schedule for next week as well. So thank
- 32:22Speaker 1: you for listening and supporting in the podcast. You can
- 32:24Speaker 1: email me if you get this in by tonight, you
- 32:29Speaker 1: can email me a question for the mail bag and
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- 32:41Speaker 1: and put name and city, name and city in the
- 32:47Speaker 1: headline on that Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com,
- 32:52Speaker 1: and your comments and questions we'll be read in the
- 32:57Speaker 1: Sunday mail bag, but we'll have new pods all weekend.
- 33:00Speaker 1: Have a wonderful, wonderful rest your Friday. Thank you for
- 33:04Speaker 1: allowing me to put this up a little bit later.
- 33:06Speaker 1: It's an afternoon podcast on a Friday, but that's all good.
- 33:11Speaker 1: That's all good, So we'll catch you out tomorrow and
- 33:16Speaker 1: aloha all that wonderful stuff. And as Danny says later,
- 33:22Speaker 1: skater now asta pasta, gotta murder, I gotta go