Latest / Murder Files Unsealed / D4vd’s Home Raided by Police Looking for ‘Blood Evidence’
Transcript
- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to the deep dive. Today, we're looking at a
- 0:02story that has well completely gripped the Internet, and not
- 0:06for the usual reasons.
- 0:07Speaker 2: No, definitely not. It's this really shocking, almost unbelievable collision,
- 0:11isn't it. You've got the bright lights of TikTok pop
- 0:15stardom on one side.
- 0:16Speaker 1: And then this incredibly dark shadow of a major homicide
- 0:19investigation on the other.
- 0:20Speaker 2: It's jarring, it really is, and our sources today they
- 0:23force us to look right at that friction. We're talking
- 0:26about the rise of David Anthony Burke D four D
- 0:29as everyone knows it.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Right, the R and B sensation, and then tragically the
- 0:32story of Celeste Revas Hernandez, who is only fifteen years
- 0:35old exactly.
- 0:36Speaker 2: So our goal here for you listening is to really
- 0:40go beyond just the headlines. We want to unpack the evidence, forensic, digital, circumstantial.
- 0:46Speaker 1: We'll look at that intense twelve hour police rate on
- 0:48the Hollywood Hills mansion, the sad details of celeste disappearance,
- 0:52Deforvidi's career just well imploding.
- 0:55Speaker 2: And these really chilling connections, things like matching kattoos, leak
- 1:00song demos, threads that seem to weave these two lives
- 1:03together in a way that's deeply disturbing.
- 1:05Speaker 1: And let's just state the core fact upfront, because it
- 1:08frames everything. D forty D just twenty went from playing
- 1:12festivals to being directly linked to a decomposing, dismembered body
- 1:16found in the trunk of his own.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Car, his own tesla, founded an impound lot. It's a
- 1:22staggering situation.
- 1:23Speaker 1: It really is. From gen z Acon to the center
- 1:25of a homicide probe. It's almost whiplash. So let's start
- 1:29where the investigation really kicked off that grim discovery. Okay,
- 1:33let's try and piece together the sequence of events, because
- 1:36the timeline itself, it's just more than just a crime,
- 1:39maybe an attempt to hide it.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, It all starts weirdly enough, with just an
- 1:44abandoned car D four vd's black Tesla model y Texas plates.
- 1:49And it wasn't just there for a day or two, no.
- 1:51Speaker 1: Sources say weeks. Some even suggest it had been sitting
- 1:54there on Bleeber Avenue near Hollywood since at least May
- 1:57of twenty twenty five May.
- 1:59Speaker 2: That's a long time a high end car like a
- 2:01Tesla to just sit on a street yeah, months potentially, Yeah.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Which makes you wonder was it neglect or was it
- 2:07deliberate someone trying to distance themselves from that.
- 2:09Speaker 2: Vehicle exactly Eventually, you know, neighbors complained it was an iore. Yeah.
- 2:14So it finally got towed on September fifth, twenty twenty five,
- 2:18ended up at a local impound lot.
- 2:20Speaker 1: But even then the discovery wasn't immediate. It sat in
- 2:23the lot for what three days?
- 2:25Speaker 2: Three days? It was September eighth when the impound lot
- 2:27workers noticed something was seriously wrong. A really strong foul smell.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And flies, lots of flies around the car. That's never
- 2:35a good sign.
- 2:36Speaker 2: Never, And here's a detail that's particularly grim and maybe
- 2:39speaks to the concealment attempt. They didn't open the main
- 2:42trunk in the back first.
- 2:43Speaker 1: Right, They opened the front trunk, the fronk as Tesla
- 2:46owners call it.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Yeah, the frunk usually for like groceries or a small bag.
- 2:50Speaker 1: Not not what they found, which was human remains inside
- 2:53a black plastic bag. And the sources are very clear
- 2:57severely decomposed.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Severely, We're talking he torso, parts of limbs, and crucially dismembered.
- 3:04Speaker 1: That detail to this memberment along with the decomposition. Immediately
- 3:07told the LAPD this wasn't just the suspicious death, this
- 3:10was homicide, full stop.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Identifying the remains must have been difficult given the state
- 3:15they were.
- 3:15Speaker 1: In, for sure, not like just running fingerprints, but the
- 3:18La County Medical Examiner's office, using forensic methods, maybe dental records,
- 3:22other markers.
- 3:23Speaker 2: They managed to identify the victim as Celeste Revis Fernandez.
- 3:27Speaker 1: And that name immediately flags something for law enforcement because
- 3:31Celeste had been reported.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Missing missing since April fifteenth, twenty twenty four. Yeah, and
- 3:36not from Hollywood but from Lake Elsinore. That's a fair
- 3:38distance away.
- 3:39Speaker 1: So let's just grasp that timeline. Missing April twenty twenty four,
- 3:43carr possibly abandoned, May twenty twenty five. Body discovered September
- 3:48twenty twenty five. That's seventeen months from disappearance to discovery.
- 3:53Speaker 2: It's horrific. It strongly suggests the body might have been
- 3:56in that vehicle for a long long time, maybe much.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Of that period, and the dismember points to well an
- 4:02attempt to make identification harder, disposal maybe seem easier or
- 4:07more concealed in that smaller space.
- 4:08Speaker 2: Exactly trying to hide the remains make them less identifiable. Well,
- 4:12the official cause of death is still pending lab results.
- 4:14The way she was found just escalated everything. This became
- 4:17a top priority homicide investigation for the LAPD.
- 4:20Speaker 1: So the body found in the R and B Stars
- 4:22car that was the spark. What followed was pretty explosive.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Right, So the focus snaps immediately from the towyard discovery
- 4:32to this very targeted, very aggressive police action in like
- 4:37one of LA's fanciest.
- 4:38Speaker 1: Neighborhoods, the Hollywood Hills.
- 4:40Speaker 2: Yeah, the so called midnight siege. The target this big,
- 4:43luxurious modern house in the Bird Streets area North Mansfield Avenue,
- 4:48very exclusive, very private.
- 4:49Speaker 1: But the police were just guessing they had a solid
- 4:51link to D four V, didn't.
- 4:53Speaker 2: They They did, and this is critical. The property was
- 4:55being leased by Josh Marshall, and Josh Marshall is dfour
- 4:58vd's manager records.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the connection D four vd's manager's place.
- 5:03It links D four VD professionally and physically to that
- 5:06specific location, suggests he was there maybe often, or at
- 5:09least had access.
- 5:10Speaker 2: Unfettered access likely and look at the police presence. This
- 5:13wasn't just a couple of officers knocking on the door.
- 5:15Speaker 1: No, this was the LAPD's Robbery Homicide Division, their top
- 5:18detectives for the most serious cases, backed.
- 5:20Speaker 2: Up by SID, the Scientific Investigation Division. These are the
- 5:24forensic specialists, the crime scene investigators.
- 5:27Speaker 1: They came prepared and they were there for twelve hours.
- 5:31A twelve hour raid. That implies something really methodical, doesn't it,
- 5:34not just a quick search.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Definitely, twelve hours suggest they suspected a major crime occurred
- 5:39inside that house and potentially a major cleanup attempt had happened.
- 5:43Speaker 1: So what were they doing for all that time? What
- 5:45does that kind of forensic search involve?
- 5:47Speaker 2: Well, A key part of it, based on our sources,
- 5:50was the use of luminol ah luminol.
- 5:53Speaker 1: We hear about that in crime shows. What exactly were
- 5:55they looking for with that?
- 5:56Speaker 2: They were hunting for blood, but not just obvious stains.
- 6:00Luminol is a chemical that reacts with the iron in
- 6:02hemoglobin that's in blood, and it glows like this eerie
- 6:06blue color under UV light.
- 6:08Speaker 1: Even if someone tried to scrub it clean.
- 6:10Speaker 2: Exactly, even if it been diluted, washed away, bleached. Potentially
- 6:13they spread on walls, floors, countertops and really importantly down drains, sinks, showers,
- 6:22places where blood or tissue might have been washed away.
- 6:24Speaker 1: So if they saw that blue glow, does that prove
- 6:28blood was there? Prove the crime happen there?
- 6:30Speaker 2: Not definitively on its own. It's what they call a
- 6:33presumptive test. It means something chemically similar to blood is here.
- 6:37Other things like bleach itself or even rust can sometimes
- 6:41cause a reaction.
- 6:42Speaker 1: Okay, so the glow is just the first step.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Right. If they get a positive reaction, they have to
- 6:46swab that specific area very carefully collected as evidence and
- 6:50send it to the lab for confirmatory DNA testing. That's
- 6:53what proves it was human blood and potentially whose blood
- 6:56it was.
- 6:56Speaker 1: So the twelve hours was spent doing that painstaking searching
- 7:00potential areas, collecting samples, hairs, fibers, fingerprints.
- 7:05Speaker 2: Everything, and maintaining that strict chain of custody so every
- 7:08piece of evidence is admissible in court later.
- 7:10Speaker 1: And when they finally left around, what did they take
- 7:13with them?
- 7:14Speaker 2: Sources, mention evidence bags obviously bulging bags containing hair samples, fingerprints,
- 7:20other unspecified items things that might hold DNA. But the
- 7:23big one, the computer they seized a computer from the
- 7:26house and will definitely come back to why that's potentially
- 7:29so incredibly important.
- 7:31Speaker 1: And just to underline the connection here, this mansion they raided,
- 7:34it was only about a block and a half away
- 7:36from Bluebird Avenue.
- 7:37Speaker 2: Where the tesla's abandoned for months.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it geographically ties the victim, the car, and this
- 7:42potential crime scene the manager's house into a really tight
- 7:46suspicious loop.
- 7:47Speaker 2: The LAPD is clearly operating on the theory that this
- 7:50house was either where the murder happened or at the
- 7:53very least where the dismemberment and the preparation for disposal
- 7:56took place. Those luminol test results, the DNA conf information
- 8:01that's going to be huge for them.
- 8:02Speaker 1: Okay, so we have the grim details of the crime scene.
- 8:05Now we need to kind of reconcile this with the
- 8:07person whose car it was, David Anthony Burke D four VD.
- 8:11Let's talk about his rise to fame and how his
- 8:13whole artistic vibe now looks well different.
- 8:17Speaker 2: Yeah, it's important to understand just how fast and how
- 8:20big is fame got. He was born in Houston March
- 8:23twenty eight, two thousand and five, so he's still incredibly young, right.
- 8:26Speaker 1: Only twenty when this broke, and he's like the definition
- 8:29of a gen Z star, isn't He taught himself guitar piano,
- 8:33made music in his bedroom.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Totally using band lab on his phone, uploading the SoundCloud,
- 8:37getting big on TikTok. His breakthrough track in twenty twenty two,
- 8:41Romantic Hotel, just went completely viral.
- 8:45Speaker 1: And that led straight to a major label deal with
- 8:47Interscope Records. Pretty much overnight success.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Absolutely. By twenty twenty three, he was huge. His first EP,
- 8:53Pedals to Thorns, got great reviews. He had this interesting
- 8:57mix like R and B indie folk, kind of melancholic.
- 9:00Speaker 1: And that massive hit here with me, billions of streams.
- 9:04He even did a remix with Hailey Williams from Paramore.
- 9:06He was a bonafide global star, a gen z.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Icon for sure, touring internationally, playing major festivals like Coachella.
- 9:12Speaker 1: But now looking back his whole esthetic, his artistic image,
- 9:16which was always kind of dark, gothic, maybe a bit macabre,
- 9:20it feels, as the sources put it, eerily prescient.
- 9:23Speaker 2: It really does. The dissonance is kind of shocking now,
- 9:26Like his Coachella performance in April twenty twenty five, just
- 9:29a few months before the discovery what about it? He
- 9:31performed wearing a shirt that was deliberately designed to look
- 9:34like it was splattered with blood.
- 9:36Speaker 1: Wow. Okay. At the time, maybe that just seemed like,
- 9:38you know, edgy artistic expression, part of his brand.
- 9:41Speaker 2: Exactly, moody, introspective, maybe a bit dark. But now, in
- 9:47the context of a homicide investigation involving a dismembered body
- 9:51bound in his car, that choice feels deeply unsettling.
- 9:55Speaker 1: And it wasn't just a one off thing, right. His merchandise, Yeah.
- 9:58Speaker 2: His official merch line incl did crimson colored shirts playing
- 10:01on that same visual theme. Interscope pulled that merch immediately
- 10:05after the raid. News hit. That tells you.
- 10:07Speaker 1: Something, definitely, and his digital footprint, the thing that made
- 10:09him famous, is now kind of being used against him
- 10:12in a way.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Yeah. People online quickly found in circulated photos confirming D
- 10:16four VD had been inside that specific Hollywood Hills mansion
- 10:19they raided, so ties him personally to that.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Location, and the professional fallout was instant, right, total collapse completely.
- 10:27Speaker 2: His US tour, which was about to start in Minneapolis,
- 10:30canceled September twentieth. The official reason was vague unforeseen circumstances.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Understatement of the year and his album.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Even more dramatic. He had a deluxe edition of his
- 10:41album coming out, ironically titled Withered. It was scheduled for
- 10:45release September nineteenth, scrubbed, pulled completely from the release schedule
- 10:50just hours before it was supposed to drop. Imagine the
- 10:53label meetings pulling a major release like that. It shows
- 10:56zero confidence, just immediate crisis management.
- 10:59Speaker 1: And the Internet which built him is now reinterpreting everything.
- 11:03There was that clip going around the coffin prop.
- 11:05Speaker 2: Yeah, a fan video surface showing him wheeling a prop
- 11:09coffin onto the stage during a recent show, all part
- 11:12of his gothic stage setup.
- 11:14Speaker 1: Again, something that maybe seemed like just dark theatrics before.
- 11:17Speaker 2: Now people are asking was this just art or was
- 11:20it something else? A performance of violence, conscious or not.
- 11:23It's impossible not to see it differently. Now.
- 11:25Speaker 1: His whole artistic persona built on this kind of moody vulnerability.
- 11:30It's basically been shattered. Every lyric, every image is being
- 11:33re examined through this horrific lens. It's easy to get
- 11:36caught up in the celebrity angle the shock of it all,
- 11:38But we have to center the real tragedy here. Celestroevas
- 11:42Hernandez the victim.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Absolutely, we need to remember who she was, just fifteen
- 11:47years old, a high school student from Lake Elsinore. Her
- 11:50family described her as a beloved daughter, sister, cousin, and friend.
- 11:54Speaker 1: She sounds like a typical teenager, really into dance, dreaming
- 11:57about that, maybe obsessed with ca pop makeup tutorials online.
- 12:02Speaker 2: Just living her life until she vanished April fifteenth, twenty
- 12:05twenty four. And the sources note the specific clothes she
- 12:08was wearing when she left home, the tube top, black leggings,
- 12:11the yellow bracelet, study rings, and.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Those mundane details became incredibly important later, didn't.
- 12:16Speaker 2: They crucial because even with the severe decomposition, the medical
- 12:20examiner could potentially match those specific union items, the braveflet,
- 12:26the earrings, maybe remnants of the clothing to the remains
- 12:29found seventeen months later. It was part of how they
- 12:32confirmed it was Celeste, an agonizing confirmation for her family.
- 12:36Speaker 1: Of course, then came the detail that really sharpened the
- 12:39focus onto d four ved.
- 12:41Speaker 2: Celeste's mother, Yeah, she spoke to TMZ and she revealed
- 12:44that celestied mentioned having a boyfriend named David, just David.
- 12:48Speaker 1: But finding Celeste remains in David Anthony Brook's car, that
- 12:51connection is immediate and chilling.
- 12:53Speaker 2: Instantly changed everything for investigators. This wasn't a random link anymore.
- 12:57It suggested a known, acknowledged relationship, even if the full
- 13:00nature of it wasn't clear yet. It implied D four
- 13:02VD knew her well.
- 13:04Speaker 1: But then there's the tattoo. This piece of physical evidence
- 13:06seems to go beyond just knowing each other.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Yes, this is a really powerful, almost unbelievable detail. The
- 13:13medical examiner found a small distinct tattoo on celeste right
- 13:17index finger.
- 13:18Speaker 1: What did it say?
- 13:19Speaker 2: It read sh just that word okay.
- 13:21Speaker 1: And the significance.
- 13:22Speaker 2: The significance is that D four VD has the exact
- 13:26same cryptic phrase tattooed on his own hand, and it's
- 13:30not hidden. He's featured it prominently in music videos, in
- 13:33his album artwork. It's part of his public.
- 13:35Speaker 1: Persona wow, so matching tattoosh on both of them. That
- 13:41suggests what a shared secret, something deeply personal between.
- 13:45Speaker 2: Them, it has to write. It implies intimacy, exclusivity, a
- 13:49private world, or understanding. They shared something they chose to
- 13:53permanently mark on their bodies.
- 13:55Speaker 1: Legally, that must be huge. It moves way beyond just
- 13:57circumstantial evidence, doesn't it.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's powerful physical evidence suggesting a close personal connection.
- 14:04It makes any defense narrative about this being a random
- 14:06event like a setup or a carjacking gune wrong much
- 14:09much harder to sell. This wasn't a stranger. This was
- 14:11someone seemingly intimately connected to him physically and artistically.
- 14:15Speaker 1: Her poor family, they started to go fundme for burial costs,
- 14:18just asking for privacy. You can't even imagine their grief.
- 14:21Speaker 2: It's devastating, and her story has unfortunately become this awful
- 14:25example of the vulnerabilities young people face, today, especially online,
- 14:28especially online. She was into K pop dance online communities.
- 14:33In that world, sometimes the lines between fans and celebrities
- 14:36can blur. Access can seem easy, and a fifteen year
- 14:40old girl could be incredibly drawn to the attention of
- 14:43a rising star like D four VD.
- 14:45Speaker 1: It highlights the danger, doesn't it How easily those digital
- 14:48connections might lead to a potentially predatory real world relationship
- 14:52between an adult celebrity and a minor.
- 14:54Speaker 2: Tragically, Yes, it's like the physical manifestation of digital risk
- 14:58a really stark cautionary time.
- 15:00Speaker 1: So we have the physical side of the car, the body,
- 15:02the house, the tattoo. But then there's this whole other dimension,
- 15:05the digital world, the World D four VD basically mastered,
- 15:08which is now providing all these threads of suspicion.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Right, and let's start with maybe the most specific and
- 15:15frankly bizarre piece of digital evidence, that leaked demo track.
- 15:19Speaker 1: The SoundCloud track. Tell us about that again.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Okay, so this track surface reportedly uploaded way back in
- 15:23December twenty twenty three, that's months before Celeste even disappeared,
- 15:27and the title was Celested demo.
- 15:29Speaker 1: Unfinn Celeste spelled out.
- 15:31Speaker 2: Spelled out, and in the lyrics he apparently sends her
- 15:34name twice. Kruons it sorts to say amid lyrics about
- 15:38lost love or longing.
- 15:40Speaker 1: At the time, maybe fans just thought, oh, that's a
- 15:42cool name, or maybe it's just artistic license amuse exactly.
- 15:47Speaker 2: But now knowing the victim's name is Celeste, it's impossible
- 15:51to see it as coincidence. It suggests she was significant
- 15:54to him back then, part of his emotional or creative
- 15:57world before she went.
- 15:59Speaker 1: Missing, which again chips away at any narrative that he
- 16:02didn't know her well or only found out about the
- 16:04body when police called.
- 16:06Speaker 2: Precisely, it establishes a timeline of connection. And then there's
- 16:09other digital stuff that surfaced since this broke, like what
- 16:12well photos an infinite looking snapshot of the two of
- 16:15them together, apparently in a green booth somewhere. Another photo
- 16:19seems to place D four D D physically near her
- 16:21family's home in Lake elsinor.
- 16:23Speaker 1: So not just online, they met in person.
- 16:26Speaker 2: The photo suggests that, yeah, which counters any idea this
- 16:28was purely a digital relationship. And then there are these
- 16:31unverified we have to tress unverified screenshots floating around, supposedly
- 16:34from discord chats.
- 16:35Speaker 1: What do they show?
- 16:36Speaker 2: They appear to show flirty messages with someone named Celeste
- 16:40signing off with heart emojis, suggesting that digital intimacy as well.
- 16:44Speaker 1: And all of this, the demo, the photos, the alleged chat.
- 16:47It's just fueled the fire online. Hasn't it turned social
- 16:50media into well, you called it a colisseum.
- 16:54Speaker 2: It really has. The public reaction was immediate and intense.
- 16:58You had posts like that one from at Drischap posting
- 17:01going viral. Y'all defending D four VD like police didn't
- 17:04find human remains, getting like forty two thousand likes. It
- 17:08really captured the public anger and drove the hashtag justice
- 17:11forceless hashtag.
- 17:12Speaker 1: People were horrified. TMZ's post about the raid got nearly
- 17:15eighty thousand views. Almost instantly. Someone else posted a blurred
- 17:19photo of the Tesla trunk that got like one hundred
- 17:21and forty five thousand likes. Just massive engagement.
- 17:24Speaker 2: Yeah, a mix of genuine horror people saying things like
- 17:27this is giving Dahmer vibes, but also calls for caution
- 17:30for letting the investigation play out, and of course the
- 17:33hardcore fans defending.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Him, which leads to the counter narratives, right, the theories
- 17:36trying to explain this away exactly.
- 17:38Speaker 2: You see D forty d's supporters and even some commentators
- 17:41like the podcaster Jason Thewen, pushing the idea that he
- 17:43was set up.
- 17:44Speaker 1: How does that argument go?
- 17:45Speaker 2: They point to the fact the car was abandoned for
- 17:48so long since May. They argue DA four VD was
- 17:51on tour, had an alibi for parts of the summer,
- 17:53so someone else must have put the body in the
- 17:55car after he left it there, maybe a carjacking that
- 17:57went wrong or someone framing him.
- 18:00Speaker 1: And D four vd's own team is saying he knew
- 18:02nothing until the police contacted him.
- 18:04Speaker 2: That's the official line. But does the leaked demo from
- 18:08twenty twenty three, and especially the matching sh tattoo make
- 18:13that set up theory easy for investigators to believe?
- 18:16Speaker 1: Seems like a stretch. The personal connection feels too strong.
- 18:20Speaker 2: It makes it highly improbable, though, please have to rule
- 18:23it out. They are looking for definitive proof about who
- 18:27drove that Tesla last. They're checking surveillance cameras from all
- 18:31around Bluebird Avenue, trying to trace the car's final movements
- 18:34before it was abandoned.
- 18:35Speaker 1: Which brings us back to that computer seized from the
- 18:38manager's house. Why is that potentially the key to everything?
- 18:41Speaker 2: Because digital forensics today is incredibly powerful. That computer could
- 18:45be like a Rosetta stone for the investigation. They aren't
- 18:48just looking at current files.
- 18:49Speaker 1: They can recover deleted stuff, Oh.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Yeah, deleted files, deleted chat logs, browser history, even potentially
- 18:56geolocation data from the computer or connected devices. They could
- 19:00potentially reconstruct his movements see if his digital activity matches
- 19:04up with Celeste's disappearance or with the time the car
- 19:07was likely dumped.
- 19:08Speaker 1: So they could find evidence of communication, planning, location, things
- 19:12he might think were.
- 19:13Speaker 2: Long gone exactly. They'll be looking for time stamps, file
- 19:16modification dates, server access logs, any communication with Celest that
- 19:21was deleted, any searches that look suspicious. The digital trail
- 19:25on that computer could provide the kind of ironclad evidence
- 19:28the testimonials often lack. It might be the thing that
- 19:30breaks the case open.
- 19:32Speaker 1: So the public artic seems pretty swift, but the legal
- 19:34system obviously works differently, slower, more methodical. Let's look at
- 19:38the fallout for dfour vd's career and why the police
- 19:41haven't actually made an arrest yet.
- 19:43Speaker 2: The career fallout was catastrophic, immediate in total. Within days,
- 19:48it was just gone. The US tour canceled, venues, empty,
- 19:52tickets refunded.
- 19:53Speaker 1: And fans were reacting pretty strongly too, right, Yeah.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Some fans were posting videos burning his merchandise, just complete
- 19:59dis illusionment and anger for Interscope Records, his label. It's
- 20:04a pr nightmare of epic proportions. They're huge investment in
- 20:08this rising star, just vanished.
- 20:11Speaker 1: Sponsors pulled out. Playlists dropped his music instantly.
- 20:14Speaker 2: Sponsors want distance, and major streaming playlists have brand safety concerns.
- 20:19They purged his music fast. For an artist who built
- 20:22his career on billions of streams, getting white from playlists
- 20:26is a massive blow. It shows how quickly digital fan
- 20:29can evaporate when something this horrific surfaces.
- 20:32Speaker 1: The financial hit must be enormous, regardless of guilt or
- 20:35innocence at this stage.
- 20:36Speaker 2: Absolutely immeasurable, which leads to the big question everyone's asking.
- 20:40With all this circumstantial evidence, the car, the body inside it,
- 20:43the demo, the matching tattoo, why hasn't D four V
- 20:46been arrested? People online are demanding.
- 20:48Speaker 1: Justice now, But it's not that simple legally as it.
- 20:51Speaker 2: No legal experts point out that the LAPD is focused
- 20:54on building a rock solid case, not just making a
- 20:57quick arrest for the headlines. There's a difference between probable
- 21:00cause and proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Explain that difference.
- 21:03Speaker 2: Well. Probable cause is the standard needed for things like
- 21:06getting a search worn like the one for the twelve
- 21:08hour rate. It means police have a reasonable belief that
- 21:11a crime was committed and this person might be involved.
- 21:14They clearly have that for DFOURVD.
- 21:16Speaker 1: But that's not enough to convict someone of murder, not
- 21:19even close.
- 21:20Speaker 2: To get a conviction in court, the prosecution needs to
- 21:23prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. That's a much much
- 21:27higher bar, especially in a case like this with decomposition dismemberment.
- 21:31They need definitive forensic links.
- 21:34Speaker 1: So they're waiting for those lab results, the luminal tests,
- 21:36the DNA.
- 21:37Speaker 2: Exactly they need to know with Celeste blood found inside
- 21:41that manager's house, is dfour vd's DNA directly linked to
- 21:44the crime scene or maybe to the bag the remains
- 21:47were in in a way that can't be easily explained
- 21:49away is their DNA from anyone else? They need irrefutable scientific.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Evidence, so they're prioritizing getting it right over getting it fast.
- 21:57They're chasing down every lead, like that surveillance footage from
- 22:00Bluebird Avenue to see who actually parked the tesla there.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Precisely, they can't afford for the case to fall apart
- 22:07in court because they rushed. So the official word is
- 22:10they're following multiple leads and there's no timeline for charges.
- 22:13They're waiting on forensics and.
- 22:15Speaker 1: This whole saga when you step back, it really does
- 22:18feel like this potent, very modern cautionary tale.
- 22:22Speaker 2: It really does. It highlights the dangers when that allure
- 22:26of celebrity, fame, the access, the perceived intimacy intersects with young,
- 22:30impressionable lives. Celeste was just fifteen. Her death is a
- 22:34brutal reminder of the risks in a world where digital
- 22:37connections can sometimes obscure a profound power, imbalances and potential danger.
- 22:41Speaker 1: It's an indictment of how easily those lines can be
- 22:44crossed between a powerful adult figure and a minor fan,
- 22:47especially online.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Yeah, and that quote you mentioned earlier from the ex
- 22:50user just cuts through all the noise. He has actual
- 22:52humor remains in his car. The sheer weight of that
- 22:55alleged reality contrasted with his light, catchy pop music. It's
- 22:59just horrifying.
- 23:00Speaker 1: Hollywood, the music industry, the public. Everyone's just watching, waiting
- 23:04for those forensic results. A young artist's career is silenced,
- 23:07maybe permanently, and a family is left with just unimaginable
- 23:11grief waiting for answers. Hashtag tag tag outro. So as
- 23:15we wrap up this deep dev let's quickly recap the
- 23:17most critical points we've covered. First, that intense police focus
- 23:22shown by the twelve hour raid and the hunt for
- 23:24hidden blood evidence using luminol in that Hollywood Hills house.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Second, that really disturbing connection of the matching tattoo, a
- 23:32shared secret now potentially a key piece of evidence suggesting
- 23:36a deep, intimate and ultimately tragic relationship.
- 23:39Speaker 1: And Third, the absolute significance of that seized computer, the
- 23:42potential it holds to unlock the digital timeline, the communications,
- 23:46the locations, potentially providing the objective pruth in a case
- 23:49clouded by speculation.
- 23:50Speaker 2: But beyond the evidence, we have to keep the focus
- 23:53on the human cost on Celestriefs Fernandez are stolen future
- 23:56and her family's devastating loss. They're the ones who need closure,
- 24:00and it.
- 24:00Speaker 1: Leaves us with this final kind of unsettling thought. You know,
- 24:04D forty D's biggest hit here with Me, has that line,
- 24:08if it's meant to be, it'll be Yeah.
- 24:10Speaker 2: But destiny was obviously horribly twisted for Celeste. And the
- 24:14big question now maybe for justice in our time, is
- 24:17how does that idea of fate or even artistic expression
- 24:21hold up against cold, hard science.
- 24:23Speaker 1: How will the forensic facts, the DNA, the digital trails
- 24:27recovered from that computer ultimately align with or completely contradict
- 24:31the narratives being spun. What happens when the artist's own tools,
- 24:34his digital mastery, might be used to uncover the truth
- 24:37about him.
- 24:38Speaker 2: That tension between the constructed image and the potential reality
- 24:41uncovered by evidence, That's what we're all waiting to see resolved.