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#630 - Wynne on Her Journey as an Independent Artist, Big Co-Signs, Portland, Family Ties & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: Boutleg CAV podcast special guest here, she is super viral
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Speaker 1: right now going crazy representing Portland. Shout out to win.
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Speaker 2: What's up?
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Speaker 1: The Northwest is in the building.
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Speaker 2: The Northwest is in the motherfucking building.
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Speaker 1: Yes. First of all, you have been grinding independently for
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Speaker 1: a very long time, very long time. How long have
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Speaker 1: you kind of been like I guess like rapping is
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Speaker 1: like your full time thing where it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: this is what I want to do. Yeah, this is
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Speaker 1: what I'm going to pursue this no matter what. Like
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Speaker 1: how long has that journey been?
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Speaker 3: I mean since I decided this was the only thing
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Speaker 3: I was going to pursue. I was like a small child.
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Speaker 3: I was like nine, Wow, But how long I've actually
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Speaker 3: been doing it? I would say about seven years when
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Speaker 3: I signed like my first publishing, Gissing.
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Speaker 1: You were just like a little kid, like just loving.
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Speaker 2: Him, loving hip hop so much.
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Speaker 1: Yeah was that your parents.
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Speaker 2: Or No, it's not my parents.
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Speaker 3: I grew up in a suburb called Lake Oswego, and uh,
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Speaker 3: I had an older brother and he he was like
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Speaker 3: my best friend when I was little, and I obviously
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Speaker 3: some one of my best friends on my brother and
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Speaker 3: we shared an iTunes account. So he was just like
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Speaker 3: putting me onto all kinds of new music. It's like
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Speaker 3: two thousand and six, so it's like the cool It's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, post get Richard, I trying, and there's a
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Speaker 3: lot of jay Z, there's a lot of Kanye, there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of Wayne gez t I. So he kind
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Speaker 3: of put me onto all that, and I didn't really
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Speaker 3: have friends where I was living, so that became my friend.
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Speaker 3: Penn became my friend, and I just was like, I'm
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Speaker 3: obsessed with this. I feel connected to it, I feel confident,
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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm.
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Speaker 2: It was like my vessel to like learn about myself
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Speaker 2: in the world.
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Speaker 1: You started writing at nine.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, mostly like remixes, Like I was doing remixes
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Speaker 3: to like GZ songs.
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Speaker 1: I remember the first the first record you wrote a
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Speaker 1: remix too.
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Speaker 2: It was Soul survivor.
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Speaker 1: Wow, shout out to Easy, shout.
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Speaker 2: Out to GZ. Yeah. And then I started going, you know,
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Speaker 2: YouTube type beats.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's about Yeah. YouTube type beats were probably kicking
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Speaker 1: or like starting to pop up back then. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 1: oh yeah, the type beat. Do you feel like, do
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Speaker 1: you have you probably have YouTube type beats under your
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Speaker 1: name now.
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Speaker 2: I think I do. Actually, I think we've looked them up. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a nice barometer of like
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Speaker 1: shit's going the right way if someone's doing like wind
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Speaker 1: type beats on YouTube straight up. Do you remember the
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Speaker 1: first like album that like just made you fall in.
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Speaker 3: It was the cool, the cool yep yep yep. It
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Speaker 3: was like my brother and I. We would play PS two.
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Speaker 3: We'd be playing like Midnight Club Dub edition, and he
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Speaker 3: would just have that album on Loop and I was
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Speaker 3: just listening to the stories into the wordplay, to the
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Speaker 3: way he was combining words like it just blew my
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Speaker 3: mind and the beats like it was great production.
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Speaker 1: And that album is aged so well too.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean incredible album.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, shots, have you met have you met Loop yet?
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Speaker 2: I have not met Lupe yet, but that's one of
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Speaker 2: my goats.
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Speaker 1: He's an alien.
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Speaker 2: He is an actual alien. What a cool dude.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just saw he just celebrated ten years of
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Speaker 1: Tetsuo and youth, I feel like. And then I was like, damn,
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Speaker 1: I'm damn.
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Speaker 2: That made me feel old too.
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Speaker 1: Shout to you know that album is so slept on Murals,
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Speaker 1: It's like eight minutes straight to him.
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Speaker 3: My my boyfriend will rap that. If you even mention
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Speaker 3: the word murals, he will rap that entire song a
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Speaker 3: cappella to you without missing a word.
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Speaker 2: Yeah that's my boyfriend. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Does your boyfriend put you on any music?
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Speaker 2: I put him on the more music he puts me onto.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the last person? Like you felt like you
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Speaker 1: kind of found and like were able to put your
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Speaker 1: homies on, cause you're kind of that artist for a
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Speaker 1: lot of people.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I was like, I feel like I
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Speaker 3: was early for some of my homies in this room.
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Speaker 3: I was like the first on Baby King when he
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Speaker 3: had like four thousand followers, like.
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Speaker 2: On Smino, really early.
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Speaker 3: I don't know where tie is, but yeah, a lot
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Speaker 3: of I'm always putting people on a new artist. I
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Speaker 3: try to stay tapped in and finding people even like
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Speaker 3: you know, on a current tip.
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Speaker 1: For you being an independent artist, it has a lot
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Speaker 1: of peaks at valleys. Yeah, obviously, like the number one
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Speaker 1: thing is like how can I make my craft like
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Speaker 1: pay the bills? Yeah, did you ever get to a
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Speaker 1: point where like the rubber was hitting the road and
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Speaker 1: you were like, I don't know if this shit's gonna work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean I have a weird thing where
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Speaker 3: I like, I don't even I don't know that I
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Speaker 3: ever felt like I don't think this is gonna work.
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Speaker 3: Like I've always been a little crazy and feeling like no,
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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm gonna make this work. And granted, when
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Speaker 3: I when I mentioned those seven years I've been doing
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Speaker 3: this in that time, I've been building with the manager
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Speaker 3: that I currently have, and he just believes in me
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Speaker 3: so much. So we've just never wavered in like our
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Speaker 3: confidence and beliefs super important, more important than anything if
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Speaker 3: you ask me. But we have definitely had our bouts
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Speaker 3: of like, Okay, how am I gonna how? You know,
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Speaker 3: like I know, I know it's there, but how am
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Speaker 3: I gonna get there?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: And what does that look like? And how long is
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Speaker 3: it gonna fucking take? Because like I said, I'm twenty
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Speaker 3: eight now. I turned twenty nine this year. I've been
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Speaker 3: doing it for a really long time, so it gets times.
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Speaker 3: You know, people are grown up. We can't sleep on
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Speaker 3: people's floors anymore. Like, so a lot of just like
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Speaker 3: I'm a big I'm a big locker inner, Like I'm
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Speaker 3: if I set my mind to do something, I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: do it. So it's just like like the mixtape honestly
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Speaker 3: is a good example of that. The mixtape I just dropped.
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Speaker 3: It was like I need to I'm kind of tired
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Speaker 3: of being in this position, and I know my potential
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Speaker 3: and I know I know what I need to work on,
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Speaker 3: and I know how to push myself to get there.
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Speaker 3: So let me like let me make this mixtape to
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Speaker 3: build up anticipation for my album and proof is in
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Speaker 3: the putting.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like, because I think that one of
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Speaker 1: the most important things, like a manager, that you have
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Speaker 1: to kind of having a manager is somebody who believes
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Speaker 1: in you and your vision. Oh yeah, fully, Oh my god,
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Speaker 1: because you got you guys, I'm sure have gone to
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Speaker 1: a lot of meetings where they try to tell you
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Speaker 1: what you should be doing or hey, yeah, she's fine,
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Speaker 1: but maybe you guys should do this, and it's like
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Speaker 1: very hard to not have their peer pressure to like yes,
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Speaker 1: be like no, I am gonna do what the fuck
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Speaker 1: I want to do, and my team believes in it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, shout out to court Man because he and Etai
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Speaker 3: who's in here somewhere, like they have just held me
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Speaker 3: down and believed in me, believed in my vision.
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Speaker 2: Like they have never tried to take the wheel from me.
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Speaker 3: They're just like and rob too, you know, like if
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Speaker 3: this is like, if this is gonna work, it's gonna
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Speaker 3: be because you stick to who you are and you
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Speaker 3: trust your gut and so when there are things that
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Speaker 3: don't feel right to me, like they've always supported me.
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Speaker 3: And when when it's taken longer. You know, when it's
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Speaker 3: brick by brick, it's harder. People aren't getting paid, so
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Speaker 3: it's like everybody just has to believe and be patient
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Speaker 3: and put in the work. And yeah, that's more important
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Speaker 3: than anything, is that your team trusts you, unbelieves me.
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Speaker 1: What's the crazy because obviously you are a white girl,
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Speaker 1: and I'm assuming like you've probably been told like, hey,
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Speaker 1: maybe you should do some more pop shit or has
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Speaker 1: there been anything crazy that like a label or an
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Speaker 1: R somebody has told you. We're like, yeah, like what
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Speaker 1: the fuck are we doing here?
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Speaker 3: Like, you know, and nobody has ever told me to
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Speaker 3: go pop like because I think the like I mean, also,
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Speaker 3: I think my team has done a good job of
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Speaker 3: putting me in rooms with people who get me.
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Speaker 1: You understand.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, all those meetings that have come about have
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Speaker 3: been off of like a viral freestyle or like, it's
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Speaker 3: very clear that I do what I do.
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Speaker 1: This is what I do.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so nobody's trying to push me to a different genre.
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Speaker 3: But you know there's other things like you're this is
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Speaker 3: not gonna work. You're not gonna be respected as like
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Speaker 3: a white female lyricist. I bet started the only fans girl,
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, let's just go.
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Speaker 1: That's fucking but yeah, yeah, I'm sure you see someone
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Speaker 1: because like you've gone viral on Twitter now, yeah, and
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Speaker 1: like Twitter, Twitter is like the depths of Hell.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you go viral on Twitter, Oh, it's
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Speaker 1: fucking crazy. It's like that remember that PlayStation game where
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Speaker 1: like there was like a dude alone in a mall
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Speaker 1: with a bunch of zombies and I think it was
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Speaker 1: called Dead Rising. That's Twitter.
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Speaker 2: That's how my life.
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Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm curious, like like it. There are
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Speaker 1: some like funny comments, like people be like you'll hear
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Speaker 1: like the White Girls ship. Oh my god, did you
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Speaker 1: see all that stuff?
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Speaker 3: Oh my god? I mean I don't see all of it.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of it, but it yes, it is.
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Speaker 3: I come across it for sure.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Is it like for you because I mean obviously you're
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Speaker 1: from Portland. Portland's a very progressive place, beautiful city.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: How like because we've seen a lot of like quote
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Speaker 1: unquote white rappers kind of come in and like do
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Speaker 1: their thing, but then kind of like overstep their boundaries
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Speaker 1: a little about being a guest in the culture, Like
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Speaker 1: how important is it for you to be kind of
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Speaker 1: cognizant of like that.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's like everything, you know, this is not
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Speaker 3: my culture, this is not what I come from.
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Speaker 2: So it's like it's who I am, and it's what
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Speaker 2: I love to do.
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Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like I'm not
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Speaker 3: trying to step on anybody's toes and I'm here to
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Speaker 3: rap because I love it, and that's like that's what
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Speaker 3: I've been doing my whole life and it's who I am.
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Speaker 3: And so when people have reservations about me, I get
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Speaker 3: it because there's nobody who looks like me that has
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Speaker 3: done anything good for hip hop, you know. Yeah, so
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Speaker 3: I think it's like it can be really triggering for
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Speaker 3: people to see someone who looks like me rapping. So yeah,
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Speaker 3: I see all those comments that are like two years
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Speaker 3: so she goes country or she's gonna switch up pop
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Speaker 3: and disrespect hip hop, which like I would never do.
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Speaker 2: This is like very much like the core of my being.
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Speaker 3: So when I see those comments, I don't take them
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Speaker 3: personally because you get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know where they come from.
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Speaker 1: How crazy is it to be able to get Dabian
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Speaker 1: Lillard on your mixtape as as? I mean, that's like
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Speaker 1: the Jordan of Portland.
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Speaker 3: Pretty sick, Yeah, literally, the Jordan of Portland. Nice good assonance.
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Speaker 1: It's like him or Clyde, you know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, yeah, I mean, Dame's a legend.
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Speaker 3: Dame is, like I I've been saying this to a
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Speaker 3: few people, just he's more reliable than some of my friends.
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Speaker 3: Like I can hit him to hop on a record
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Speaker 3: and he's like, he's got my back. So he's been
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Speaker 3: supporting me for a long time since I first started
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Speaker 3: going viral in like twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. So he's
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Speaker 3: he's stayed in my corner and kind of helped mentor
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Speaker 3: me as far as like what it looks like to
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Speaker 3: stay in Portland.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think it's dope. And then I'm just
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Speaker 1: I'm I was like so happy he got traded back
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Speaker 1: or I don't know if he got traded back or
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Speaker 1: they re signed him or yes. I was like, that
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Speaker 1: feels right something about that in the world. It feels right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, seeing him in the buckster, is he doing this?
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Speaker 1: It was like, I didn't work out, just just go home,
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Speaker 1: come back. Yeah. And the Blazers are like a really good,
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Speaker 1: scrappy like team.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're young, we're young, We're going to figure it out.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. The Sons gave y'all Kamara or what's his name? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the bruh from uh yeah to money to money yeah jesus. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: second round pick which gave him away.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some good players right now. Yes, Denny yep,
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Speaker 3: ya crazy. Yeah, he's going crazy. Scoot Hender's going us
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Speaker 3: Shaden Yeah, yeah, we've.
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Speaker 1: Shout out the Blazers for you. Who's been the coolest
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Speaker 1: co sign or person that you've seen, like like something
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Speaker 1: or leave a comment on something or d M you
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Speaker 1: because you are out like you are super viral the
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Speaker 1: past six months.
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Speaker 3: So I'm assuming it's been crazy. It's been really crazy.
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Speaker 3: To name a few, it's been like no name Questlove,
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Speaker 3: Drake Asap, Rocky, Vince Staples, Freddy Gibbs.
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Frek.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Freddy, shout out to all of them, like,
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Speaker 3: it's been a it's been a crazy Kevin Durant, it's
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Speaker 3: been a it's been a crazy couple of months, k D.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's been pretty crazy.
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Speaker 1: How does Drake like? Do you find out he like?
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Speaker 1: Does he like something? Does he d Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he liked one of my posts and followed me
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Speaker 3: and then and yeah we exchanged that's pretty so yeah, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: pretty cool.
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Speaker 1: Who who for you like? Because I feel like that's
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Speaker 1: got to be kind of like, you know, it's got
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Speaker 1: to be reassuring, like you've been on this journey for
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you said twenty sixteen, you're starting
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Speaker 1: to go last ten years ago. Yes, it's a long time.
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Speaker 2: It's a long time.
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Speaker 1: That's got to be dope. You just kind of have
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Speaker 1: like legends kind of reinforced like Okay, we all weren't crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yes, oh my gosh.
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Speaker 3: My whole life, I've been like, I'm not crazy, Guys,
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Speaker 3: I swear like this, like I think this is going
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Speaker 3: to work. But you know that those are my That's
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Speaker 3: the air I grew up with in high school. It
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Speaker 3: was it was Cold, it was Drake, it was Kendrick,
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Speaker 3: it was Rocky, it was Joey.
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Speaker 2: Joey's another person who's tapped in throughout this.
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Speaker 3: So it's cool to see the people who I grew
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Speaker 3: up listening to and kind of like helped carve my
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Speaker 3: sound to to see some of them showing love to me.
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Speaker 3: And that's always been you know, the the Drake package
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Speaker 3: as they call it, Like when you get the Drake follow,
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Speaker 3: when you do the drag m it's like it's like okay,
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Speaker 3: and he's you know the record that he tapped in with,
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Speaker 3: it's a song on my mixtape called Combs Toyota and
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Speaker 3: he's definitely influenced you know, my my pen So for
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Speaker 3: him to for him to fuck with that record was
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Speaker 3: really dope.
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Speaker 1: Uh to Toyota is very instrumental with your rollout and
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Speaker 1: the album cover and the yes I'm a Toyota guy
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Speaker 1: had player forever shout out the significance of your Toyota.
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Speaker 3: I've been driving my Toyota since I was fifteen years old.
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Speaker 3: Is that a higher it's a Highlander, it's a it's
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Speaker 3: a passed down multiple people, you know, And it's like,
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Speaker 3: it's my baby, it's my car. It's taken us on
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Speaker 3: a lot of road trips, journeys. It's the car that
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Speaker 3: I was driving to my my you know, minimum waige
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Speaker 3: job at Pizza Shmiza and listening to Born Center on
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Speaker 3: the way back, like, and it's the car that I
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Speaker 3: drive now. So I've always said I'm gonna keep it
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Speaker 3: even it's a total beater, like it might as well
15:55
Speaker 3: have been totaled at this point, like it's probably only
15:58
Speaker 3: worth like a rack. But I'm like, I'm gonna keep
16:01
Speaker 3: driving this car until I literally cannot.
16:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna drive it until it won't allow me
16:06
Speaker 1: to yes anymore.
16:08
Speaker 3: Yes, So it's my baby, and I wanted to immortalize
16:10
Speaker 3: it on the cover, which actually is a good segue.
16:12
Speaker 2: I brought you a CD.
16:14
Speaker 1: Oh nice, let's go. We got the heart Hey, I
16:17
Speaker 1: love the heart of and Pete yup, and then look
16:20
Speaker 1: at the.
16:21
Speaker 2: I designed that myself. I'm so sad.
16:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got my Sequoia had the same Toileta
16:27
Speaker 1: wood grain.
16:28
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, somebody actually just broke into my car and
16:31
Speaker 3: ripped out the fucking the little coin pocket on the
16:35
Speaker 3: front of my wood.
16:35
Speaker 2: Grains all fucked.
16:37
Speaker 1: It's about Portland.
16:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, like literally three weeks ago. It hurts.
16:40
Speaker 1: Do you feel like it's it's so weird, Like so
16:44
Speaker 1: you're from a city that has like become like this
16:46
Speaker 1: like weird like political tool somehow.
16:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very simple and complex conversation.
16:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like I feel like, you know, the protest
16:59
Speaker 1: at twenty twenty where one thing and actually think like whatever,
17:03
Speaker 1: Like I think Trump is one of the biggest stooges
17:05
Speaker 1: in the world, and I feel like Pryce Steven Miller's
17:09
Speaker 1: evil ass probably showed him like footage from twenty twenty
17:11
Speaker 1: and was like, look, Portland is on fire, right, but
17:15
Speaker 1: it's it's got to be, you know, to be from
17:17
Speaker 1: a place that is kind of like the poster child
17:21
Speaker 1: of what like the right wing deems everything wrong liberalism. Yeah,
17:29
Speaker 1: what do you think is like the biggest misconception about
17:31
Speaker 1: Portland because we always just hear people everyone out there
17:34
Speaker 1: is do it fed? Oh my god.
17:37
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of misconceptions.
17:39
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like it's not a singular place,
17:43
Speaker 3: like there's a lot of different experiences. There's a lot
17:46
Speaker 3: of black and brown people out there. I mean there's
17:48
Speaker 3: a community like yeah so, and I think that gets
17:51
Speaker 3: overlooked a lot. But I think another thing is like,
17:55
Speaker 3: as far as our politics are seen, like you also
17:58
Speaker 3: have to keep in mind like it's a it's a
18:01
Speaker 3: very uh, it's a very white city at the same time,
18:06
Speaker 3: so when people are it's the kind of city people
18:09
Speaker 3: say where like you put up a Black Lives Matter
18:11
Speaker 3: sign in your yard and you push the black people out.
18:13
Speaker 3: So when people see it as the progressive city, it's
18:16
Speaker 3: like it's a little more complicated than that because it's
18:20
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's kind of like a like
18:24
Speaker 3: a surface level liberalism that it can be that makes sense,
18:28
Speaker 3: But it's also a city that cares. It's a city
18:30
Speaker 3: that wants to learn. It's a city that's hungry and
18:34
Speaker 3: wants to fight for what's right and knows. But there's
18:40
Speaker 3: not a lot of representation as well. So there's a
18:43
Speaker 3: lot going in there. It has a very very dark
18:45
Speaker 3: organ in general, has a very dark history with racism.
18:48
Speaker 1: Even like like northern organ Idaho and.
18:52
Speaker 2: Southern I mean there's yes.
18:54
Speaker 1: North Oregon is fucking it's wild.
18:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's some fucked up ship that goes on
18:59
Speaker 3: in that state. And it's like Oregon, I mean largely
19:02
Speaker 3: with most of the states or red states, and then
19:04
Speaker 3: the major cities are blue.
19:05
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a very unique place to live. Yes, Yeah,
19:09
Speaker 1: beautiful place. Beautiful place, one of the most beautiful places.
19:12
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, Oregon if you could get My
19:15
Speaker 1: mom used to live there, so oh nice. Yeah. So
19:17
Speaker 1: she always like, honey, you should just move to Oregon.
19:20
Speaker 1: Let's get out of this crazy shit.
19:21
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:22
Speaker 3: It's it's a passionate place. It's a passionate place. It's
19:25
Speaker 3: an artful place. People care a lot. But yeah, I
19:29
Speaker 3: think there's a lot of like there's a lot of
19:31
Speaker 3: reparations that need to be done in that city.
19:34
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the drug legalization or decriminalization is
19:40
Speaker 1: like been a net positive in that negative I.
19:43
Speaker 3: Think when that was uh, when that came to be,
19:48
Speaker 3: I don't think that those resources were in place for people,
19:51
Speaker 3: Like they decriminalized it, but then they didn't actually provide
19:54
Speaker 3: any resources, right.
19:55
Speaker 1: So it's almost like you got to have all your
19:56
Speaker 1: ducks in a row if you're going to make a
19:58
Speaker 1: crazy move like that.
19:59
Speaker 2: Yes, so so I.
20:02
Speaker 3: Don't feel like I can make a call and whether
20:04
Speaker 3: or not that was overall and that positive or negative.
20:06
Speaker 3: But I don't think it was handled well, is what
20:10
Speaker 3: I would say. I think I don't think there are
20:12
Speaker 3: enough resources.
20:13
Speaker 1: Also, people don't realize this Portland has, I want to say,
20:16
Speaker 1: more strip clubs than any other city per capita.
20:19
Speaker 2: We do per capita.
20:20
Speaker 4: Am Yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy, it is. You
20:23
Speaker 4: would not think that now you would not.
20:26
Speaker 1: I want to say, there was like a was there
20:27
Speaker 1: like a stripper protest recently?
20:29
Speaker 3: There was, well, there's lots of stripper protests, but they
20:32
Speaker 3: did just raise like two hundred thousand dollars in like
20:34
Speaker 3: a toy drive. Was that?
20:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got coffee shops out there where the girls
20:38
Speaker 1: are serving coffee like damn near naked.
20:41
Speaker 2: But Kenny Buriss says, yes we do.
20:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I haven't been. I haven't been, yep, But I.
20:46
Speaker 3: Just deliberating place there's naked bike rides, Like there's some
20:50
Speaker 3: weird shit going on. I have not partaken in any
20:54
Speaker 3: naked bike rides, but stay tuned.
20:57
Speaker 1: Like if you go like like Diamond in the future
21:00
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, we got this old video of
21:02
Speaker 1: Win on a naked bike ride protesting.
21:07
Speaker 2: That would actually be sick, that would.
21:09
Speaker 1: Be pretty funny. Has because obviously, you know, the biggest
21:15
Speaker 1: artist out of Portland in recent memory is a mine.
21:17
Speaker 1: Who's somebody who's you know, done so many big things.
21:20
Speaker 1: He's got a new Balance deal and has has that
21:24
Speaker 1: been somebody who's who's like giving you any game? Or Nope? No, no.
21:29
Speaker 2: I met him once briefly. He came out.
21:33
Speaker 3: He does a festival outside of Portland in Troutdale, and
21:40
Speaker 3: so I met him at a party he had there.
21:42
Speaker 3: Somebody introduced us and we had a brief conversation. But
21:45
Speaker 3: he's a busy guy, so I'll take it personally.
21:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got a lot going on. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
21:50
Speaker 1: very talented guy. What's it been like? I saw you.
21:54
Speaker 1: You just said that you closed out the j I
21:56
Speaker 1: D Tour in Seattle last night.
21:58
Speaker 2: Yeah that was sick.
21:59
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, man, I gotta I gotta give a
22:02
Speaker 3: shout out to Jid because he has been, you know,
22:06
Speaker 3: showing me love since the beginning of my career. We
22:08
Speaker 3: had a record, we have a record together called Ego
22:10
Speaker 3: Check that we dropped in twenty nineteen, and uh, that
22:16
Speaker 3: was just fire of him to do, you know early
22:17
Speaker 3: in my career.
22:18
Speaker 2: He didn't need to do that. He just fucked with
22:19
Speaker 2: the record and fucked with me.
22:21
Speaker 3: And so yeah, full circle to be able to close
22:23
Speaker 3: out that tour with him last night Seattle.
22:26
Speaker 2: Great crowd. By the way, his fans are always super turned.
22:29
Speaker 1: Have you listened to the Ja Cole Freestales that came
22:30
Speaker 1: out yesterday.
22:31
Speaker 2: I haven't listened to him yet.
22:32
Speaker 1: Very impressive.
22:33
Speaker 2: I've seen a couple. I've seen a couple of lyrics from.
22:36
Speaker 1: Black the fuck Out.
22:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet he did.
22:38
Speaker 1: I mean, my friend Simba sent sent me like Jake
22:41
Speaker 1: Ole dissby and then he sent it to me and
22:43
Speaker 1: I was like, hey man, he kind of went.
22:45
Speaker 2: Crazy, like he dissed him. Shout out to Simba.
22:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, he met. He mentioned Simba on a record and
22:51
Speaker 1: I was like, He's like, I'm on my way to
22:52
Speaker 1: the studio. I'm like, yeah, but he went crazy.
22:57
Speaker 3: Yeah, closing that mode that Moan dis tube track too.
23:03
Speaker 1: Oh crazy. I mean I want to hear the ship
23:06
Speaker 1: at the end where he is wrapping over the mob.
23:08
Speaker 1: Deep shit. Ye drop a gym yet?
23:10
Speaker 2: Yep, me too.
23:11
Speaker 1: We got a week.
23:12
Speaker 3: I can't wait. I thought he was going to drop
23:14
Speaker 3: something Today's birthday rise twenty eight.
23:16
Speaker 1: Well he did.
23:17
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it was yesterday. Maybe it was midnight.
23:19
Speaker 1: I guess it technically wasn't at midnight, though, I think
23:22
Speaker 1: it kind of leaked and he just like was like,
23:24
Speaker 1: let's let it fly.
23:25
Speaker 2: That sounds that sounds likely. Yeah, I'm excited. Listen.
23:29
Speaker 1: Or So are you independent right now? Or what is
23:31
Speaker 1: your situation?
23:32
Speaker 3: Yeah?
23:33
Speaker 2: I mean, so I've been working with this team.
23:36
Speaker 3: I have Court my manager, and he we have like
23:39
Speaker 3: somewhat of a production deal, so he kind of helps
23:42
Speaker 3: me make things happen on an independent tip. But I'm
23:45
Speaker 3: not signed to any major. We actually don't even have
23:47
Speaker 3: distribution right now. Really, yeah, we're just freeballing.
23:52
Speaker 1: So would you what was your distro through for the tape?
23:55
Speaker 3: It was like a straight up mixtape mixtape, so we
23:58
Speaker 3: couldn't release it on DSP so it's on YouTube and
24:00
Speaker 3: SoundCloud and on my website and on that hard CD.
24:03
Speaker 1: Yo, I'm not gonna lie. There's a lot of rappers
24:06
Speaker 1: out here getting off wrapping over other people's beats without
24:10
Speaker 1: getting them cleared and uploading them on District. Kid, I
24:12
Speaker 1: know I'm scrolling. I'm like yo, Like like my I
24:16
Speaker 1: won't even say his name. My homie did a whole
24:18
Speaker 1: freestyle over Westside Connections a bow Down and it has
24:21
Speaker 1: like six million streams on Spotify. Oh shit, And I'm like, bro,
24:25
Speaker 1: did you clear this?
24:26
Speaker 2: He's like no, I'm low Ki, I'm jealous.
24:29
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you're gonna get sued. Damn, You're gonna
24:32
Speaker 1: get hit with the seas.
24:33
Speaker 3: Our art team is always like, if you get sued,
24:35
Speaker 3: it's a good thing because then it means that it
24:36
Speaker 3: got big enough that somebody cares.
24:38
Speaker 1: I used to say, like Static selected use to tell
24:40
Speaker 1: me that because Static I would always be like, hey, dude,
24:42
Speaker 1: like your whole life is like samples, you know, like
24:44
Speaker 1: you clear all the ship's indy. He's like fuck no,
24:46
Speaker 1: He's like, if I get sued, it's a good.
24:48
Speaker 2: Thing, right right right.
24:50
Speaker 1: He's like that means the ship hits somebody hit the rails.
24:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough though, because it's not even sampling.
24:55
Speaker 2: I just took everybody's beats. Yeah, just straight up.
24:58
Speaker 1: Do you. There's a lot of talk and I've seen
25:02
Speaker 1: producers use AI in a way that's beneficial to where
25:05
Speaker 1: like if you need a vocal sample or something you
25:08
Speaker 1: could chop you could make your own sample through AI
25:11
Speaker 1: and chop it up that way, you don't have to
25:13
Speaker 1: worry about clearing shit. Have you figured out like or
25:17
Speaker 1: used AI in any way creatively?
25:19
Speaker 3: No, I have no interest in AI, honestly. I mean,
25:22
Speaker 3: I think there's good uses for it.
25:23
Speaker 1: I think I think definitely evil.
25:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I think I think I don't think we're
25:29
Speaker 3: we're we're doing the right thing with it. I think
25:31
Speaker 3: we're finding all the wrong things to do with it.
25:33
Speaker 3: I mean, so it's not something.
25:36
Speaker 1: I'm Yeah, AI is got.
25:37
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly probably should do more research on
25:39
Speaker 3: it because I know it's coming and I know it's here,
25:41
Speaker 3: but I'm just like, I'm just still like a little
25:42
Speaker 3: bit in denial.
25:43
Speaker 2: Like I don't even use chat GBT.
25:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just uh, I wrote a diss song from
25:49
Speaker 1: one of my dogs to the other dog, and so
25:54
Speaker 1: we were all hanging out, like me and my family
25:56
Speaker 1: were in line at a Universal Studios for Halloween. And
25:59
Speaker 1: while we were waiting in line for three fucking hours,
26:02
Speaker 1: I was like, let me make my kids laughing. Write
26:04
Speaker 1: this this song Leroy Dison Larry and that's about And
26:10
Speaker 1: then I like, today is my friend's birthday. And he
26:12
Speaker 1: posted a picture of himself and then we need a
26:14
Speaker 1: poo costume at uh in Tokyo at the Tokyo Disneyland,
26:17
Speaker 1: and he looked ridiculous. So I I made videos of
26:22
Speaker 1: him catching salmon in the in.
26:24
Speaker 4: The river like a real beard, and then I posted
26:28
Speaker 4: them one Oh my god, I.
26:30
Speaker 1: Gotta show you actually because it's pretty funny.
26:32
Speaker 2: I feel like I've just I've seen so much.
26:35
Speaker 1: Oh look this is Marshall. So look this is this
26:43
Speaker 1: is the only thing is good for is with your friends?
26:46
Speaker 1: Oh my god, because this is the original photo he
26:49
Speaker 1: posted this and like expected his friends.
26:52
Speaker 2: God, you know that's what I wear when I'm just
26:54
Speaker 2: like at home.
26:55
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen The Revenant?
26:57
Speaker 2: The Revenant with with uh DiCaprio.
27:00
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I love bears. I mean I don't love
27:03
Speaker 3: ai like that. That doesn't move me emotionally. Maybe it's
27:07
Speaker 3: because I don't know your friend.
27:08
Speaker 1: But no, we did, Like, look at this one I did.
27:11
Speaker 1: This is just good, good, good case usage. Oh my god,
27:16
Speaker 1: it's him attacking Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenue Sare's Revenant
27:20
Speaker 1: to the bear Head. Enough Leo ship good stuff.
27:23
Speaker 2: That's it is insane.
27:25
Speaker 3: I just I need to understand more about the damages
27:27
Speaker 3: it's having.
27:28
Speaker 1: Oh it's I mean, it's these data centers. The data
27:31
Speaker 1: centers are killing people's environment, and the power prices are
27:34
Speaker 1: increasing and it's tough. And then you got palent here,
27:38
Speaker 1: which is like the most evil company in the fucking world,
27:41
Speaker 1: doing some fucked up ship. Yeah yeah, but yeah no, yeah,
27:45
Speaker 1: don't use AI.
27:45
Speaker 2: Sorry, I have to.
27:46
Speaker 3: Is that the sound of Bonics, my Bonx, that's one
27:50
Speaker 3: of my closest friends. Shout out to Bonyx.
27:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's the Philippines right now. Oh hell yeah,
27:57
Speaker 1: because Bonis lived in Portland. He helped a long shore
28:00
Speaker 1: we out there. Yeah. Good guy, Yeah, great guy, great guy.
28:03
Speaker 2: He's always given me opportunities where you can and stay
28:06
Speaker 2: tapped in. I got a lot of love for Bonyx.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll first showed me love a record I dropped
29:34
Speaker 3: with my boy Spinach a couple of years ago, called
29:36
Speaker 3: what would Comb Do? You followed me and shared it,
29:39
Speaker 3: sent me a DM and then I got to open
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29:49
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29:51
Speaker 3: So that was said first shout out to win in
29:53
Speaker 3: the building. In my head, I was like, we're outside,
29:55
Speaker 3: We're not in a building, but yes, and then he
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30:02
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30:05
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30:10
Speaker 3: select thinking about it.
30:11
Speaker 1: He's a selective dude, that's true. Like I've told him, like, hey,
30:14
Speaker 1: you should Workpis. I'm pretty close with album, so i'd
30:17
Speaker 1: be like, should I feel like you could get off
30:19
Speaker 1: a whole album?
30:21
Speaker 3: That's like that that would be like my life accomplishment.
30:25
Speaker 3: I don't think that if I can make like an
30:26
Speaker 3: album with Alchemists.
30:28
Speaker 1: We're putting it in the air right now. I'm gonna
30:29
Speaker 1: clip this. I'm gonna send it to him.
30:31
Speaker 2: Please do because.
30:32
Speaker 1: That you're gonna have to go to got to go
30:34
Speaker 1: to his studio.
30:35
Speaker 2: I've heard that I need to just like show up
30:37
Speaker 2: at his door.
30:38
Speaker 1: That's kind of the thing. Yeah, okay, yeah, like yeah,
30:41
Speaker 1: you got to go and make it happen.
30:43
Speaker 3: Yes, look, I will do it. That's like I'm I
30:46
Speaker 3: need some of those beats on my album. I need
30:48
Speaker 3: to make it happen for you. I want to kind
30:52
Speaker 3: of dig into your taste a little. We already talked
30:54
Speaker 3: about the cool but all time, what are some of
30:55
Speaker 3: your favorite hip hop albums?
30:56
Speaker 1: Give me like three or four.
30:58
Speaker 3: I have to go with the Print, Okay, I'd have
31:01
Speaker 3: to go with Get Richard I try, and I'd probably
31:05
Speaker 3: go with you know, it's interesting because I'm about to
31:08
Speaker 3: say good Kid, Mad City, But I don't even think
31:11
Speaker 3: it's my favorite Kendrick album.
31:13
Speaker 1: I actually agree with you.
31:14
Speaker 3: Okay, Nice, I think my favorite Kendrick album is probably
31:18
Speaker 3: to Pimp but Butterfly mine too.
31:20
Speaker 2: Nice.
31:22
Speaker 3: I would have to throw are we counting like Miseducation
31:25
Speaker 3: or is that like an R and B album?
31:27
Speaker 2: I would count it.
31:27
Speaker 3: I would put that up there. I would probably put
31:32
Speaker 3: like graduation for me, I would.
31:35
Speaker 1: Put I'm so hard on graduation. Yeah, it might be
31:40
Speaker 1: just like that one of my Wow, interesting, I know
31:43
Speaker 1: I'm in the minority there. That was like, I think
31:48
Speaker 1: it's awesome. By the way, it's a classic, incredible, it's
31:51
Speaker 1: a classic. Yeah, I just have it like fifth.
31:54
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you have? What?
31:56
Speaker 1: What's your I got? Yes? Is higher? Okay, okay, use
32:00
Speaker 1: this is great like us. This to me is like
32:03
Speaker 1: quietly up there. I think my favor my favorite is
32:06
Speaker 1: Late Registration, but I think the best is kind of
32:08
Speaker 1: like the Kendrick thing. You said, the best album is
32:10
Speaker 1: my beautiful Arktorics of Fantasy, but my favorite is Late Registration.
32:13
Speaker 3: Nice, Okay, I fun with that late Registration is obviously classic.
32:18
Speaker 2: That's album.
32:19
Speaker 1: And then and then I got, I got, I got
32:20
Speaker 1: color drop out above it, and I h I don't know, man,
32:25
Speaker 1: graduation is good, but I just I don't know. I might.
32:31
Speaker 1: I might have the Life of Pablo above graduation. Mmmm,
32:35
Speaker 1: I might. Mm hmmm. I'll tell you which one I
32:37
Speaker 1: listen to more right now?
32:39
Speaker 2: Interesting?
32:40
Speaker 3: And graduation for me is like that's that helped like
32:44
Speaker 3: craft my.
32:45
Speaker 5: Take, it was really hot, I was super hot. Yeah, yeah,
32:51
Speaker 5: it's hot, trust me, this is what it is. Yeah, No,
32:55
Speaker 5: I think I think Kendrick's Butterfly Fillmatic.
32:59
Speaker 2: But yes, but Butterfly.
33:00
Speaker 1: What about What do you think is the last album
33:02
Speaker 1: that's coming out that's a classic in your opinion? Oh?
33:05
Speaker 3: Man, I feel like that's an unfair question because the
33:08
Speaker 3: classic is like decided by time, do you.
33:11
Speaker 2: I don't know what's classic to me yet? Let me think.
33:17
Speaker 2: I mean I probably gn.
33:18
Speaker 5: X, g X.
33:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, gen X's there's an argument to be made that
33:23
Speaker 1: gn X is like the most palatable Kendrick album ever.
33:25
Speaker 2: I think there. I think there's an argument there.
33:28
Speaker 1: The only song that skips for me is the title track.
33:31
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
33:32
Speaker 1: It's the only record I skip. Yeah, yeah, I just.
33:34
Speaker 3: I kind of yeah, but I like it. But but
33:37
Speaker 3: I hear you it's a great album.
33:39
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like I think before I think
33:43
Speaker 1: gn X is a classic, but I think before that
33:45
Speaker 1: it was like a why I think the last album
33:47
Speaker 1: I really was like this is was Alfred of the
33:49
Speaker 1: First Off.
33:51
Speaker 2: So that is another classic. Yeah, damn it.
33:55
Speaker 1: Gibbs has so many classic albums it's like unfair, and
33:57
Speaker 1: no one talks about it like they should. Yes, so
34:00
Speaker 1: a fucking big bald asshole. So if you come to
34:02
Speaker 1: my birthday night, you'll meet him. He'll be When does
34:05
Speaker 1: this air? Next week?
34:08
Speaker 3: I'm going on tour with Freddy. I'm playing a couple
34:10
Speaker 3: of shows with Have you met him yet? I met
34:12
Speaker 3: him once he was we were faded out.
34:16
Speaker 1: I mean yeah yeah, yeah, oh well that's awesome.
34:18
Speaker 2: But I don't know if he knew I was at
34:20
Speaker 2: the time.
34:21
Speaker 1: The Flyers today, for real, are you doing?
34:23
Speaker 2: I'm doing Manchester in London with him in Redvelle.
34:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. He literally just texts the Flyers today because
34:30
Speaker 1: let me see.
34:31
Speaker 2: I don't I don't I think when I met him, Yes, yeah, the.
34:36
Speaker 1: Last Rabbit tour breaking news. Yes, you could see him
34:41
Speaker 1: overseas and domestically.
34:43
Speaker 2: Yes.
34:44
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:44
Speaker 2: When I when I first met him, I just came
34:46
Speaker 2: up to him as a fan.
34:47
Speaker 3: This was only two years ago, but I just ran
34:49
Speaker 3: into him and I was like, I'm a huge fan,
34:51
Speaker 3: and I don't.
34:51
Speaker 2: Think he knew who I was, but he tapped in
34:53
Speaker 2: with me on this mixtape.
34:55
Speaker 1: Incredible guy, Yeah, incredible.
34:56
Speaker 2: I'm soaked. I'm these are gonna be my first shows
34:59
Speaker 2: a broad So I'm like.
35:02
Speaker 1: Where you're going to Manchester?
35:03
Speaker 2: You said Manchester in London.
35:04
Speaker 1: That's sick. It's going to be what uh what kind
35:07
Speaker 1: of white are you? If you don't my masking? Are
35:09
Speaker 1: you like English? German, Irish? I'm Scandinavian, Scannonavian?
35:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about you?
35:14
Speaker 1: Just fucking German Irish?
35:17
Speaker 2: You look a little Polish or something.
35:19
Speaker 1: I wish because I would love to be able to
35:21
Speaker 1: call people polock and just let it let it fly,
35:24
Speaker 1: you know, like, no, I'm Polish, I'm not. I can't
35:26
Speaker 1: get the polock off. I mean I just did twice
35:28
Speaker 1: in an interview, but no, I feel like, uh yeah, Irish, German, English? Yeah,
35:35
Speaker 1: and then if you let my parents tell you like
35:36
Speaker 1: native American, Like every white people in the world are like, no,
35:40
Speaker 1: we got native in US.
35:41
Speaker 2: Oh I got none of that.
35:42
Speaker 1: Yeah. All the white people I know swear they have
35:45
Speaker 1: like no, I'm part Native. Oh my god, tell my parents.
35:49
Speaker 1: I'm like, Yeo, there's fucking no way.
35:51
Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I'm I'm pretty Swedish, and I'm pretty Danish,
35:55
Speaker 3: and I'm pretty Dutch.
35:57
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Dutch.
35:58
Speaker 2: Shout out to the Dutch.
35:59
Speaker 1: Nice. What was like life for you because your parents
36:01
Speaker 1: they were pretty supportive of this dream of you.
36:03
Speaker 3: Yeah.
36:04
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Were they like did they like help you
36:06
Speaker 1: get like any equipment or studio time back in the
36:08
Speaker 1: day or no.
36:09
Speaker 3: My parents, like, I mean, I think anything when you're like,
36:13
Speaker 3: you know, when you're like a nine year old white
36:15
Speaker 3: blonde girl growing up in the suburbs and you're like,
36:17
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a rapper, They're like yeah.
36:21
Speaker 2: But they were definitely supportive.
36:23
Speaker 3: Like I remember my dad came with me to one
36:27
Speaker 3: of my first like in person ciphers.
36:28
Speaker 2: It was in La. It was first. I used to
36:30
Speaker 2: do team Backpack.
36:31
Speaker 1: Oh, Team backpack used to go crazy? Yes, and I
36:34
Speaker 1: Jared Benton and Joel or Tea, Yes, Chris River Chris
36:39
Speaker 1: very futuristic.
36:41
Speaker 2: Oswin Benjamin Alien.
36:43
Speaker 3: By the way, Yes, there was some freaks going off
36:47
Speaker 3: at Team Backpack Ciphers and I was trying to get
36:49
Speaker 3: onto like an official cipher. So they had a competition
36:53
Speaker 3: and it was like whatever, a couple thousand submissions and
36:56
Speaker 3: they picked five hundred of us and we got to
36:59
Speaker 3: go out and compete live, and I ended up making
37:01
Speaker 3: like the top twenty.
37:02
Speaker 1: Wow.
37:03
Speaker 3: And my dad came with me to that because I
37:05
Speaker 3: was a kid. But my mom brought me to my
37:09
Speaker 3: first studio session in Portland.
37:11
Speaker 1: Did she hang?
37:12
Speaker 2: She hung? She kicked it. My mom was at the
37:14
Speaker 2: show last night in the pit.
37:15
Speaker 3: Oh that's fire, like I because I didn't see her
37:18
Speaker 3: before the show and then afterwards, I was like, where
37:19
Speaker 3: were you seeing? She was like I was, I was
37:21
Speaker 3: like fourth row with all like the young dudes. She's like,
37:24
Speaker 3: I know they were looking at me crazy, but I'm
37:26
Speaker 3: like they probably could see that were related.
37:28
Speaker 2: I looked just like my mom.
37:29
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Yeah, they got to be super proud of you.
37:31
Speaker 2: They're super proud of me.
37:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
37:33
Speaker 3: I mean I hear it from my mom like pretty
37:35
Speaker 3: much every day. And but I do remember when I
37:38
Speaker 3: was a kid. If I was like being an asshole,
37:41
Speaker 3: which was pretty rare because I was a good kid,
37:43
Speaker 3: she would take my song book and that was because
37:49
Speaker 3: that was that was my punishment, was like I'm going
37:51
Speaker 3: to take your your lyric book from you.
37:54
Speaker 1: And we would get into like fights about it because
37:56
Speaker 1: I would be.
37:56
Speaker 2: Like, you can't take that.
37:57
Speaker 1: They'd be like when, yeah, like when you see it's
38:00
Speaker 1: crashing out about like parents taking away their game.
38:02
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
38:04
Speaker 1: She would take my songbook, not the song book. Do
38:07
Speaker 1: you still have all those like old books?
38:09
Speaker 2: I do, yep, I still have them all now.
38:10
Speaker 3: I write in my notes like everybody, but yep, I
38:14
Speaker 3: used to handwrite everything.
38:15
Speaker 1: Those things would be I mean, you're in a great trajectory.
38:18
Speaker 1: I'm sure those things are some money.
38:19
Speaker 2: One day, I'll never see them.
38:21
Speaker 1: Put them in like a museum.
38:23
Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, I could do that. They're cool.
38:24
Speaker 3: They have collages of like you know, run DMC and
38:29
Speaker 3: LL cool J and Mob Deep and shit all over
38:31
Speaker 3: the front.
38:32
Speaker 2: They've got went off on them.
38:35
Speaker 1: So you are obviously the mixtape spin out. What's the
38:38
Speaker 1: deal with this album? Are you trying to find a
38:40
Speaker 1: home for it? First?
38:42
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm trying to find a home for
38:43
Speaker 2: it first.
38:44
Speaker 3: I'm my plan is to do what I do, and
38:46
Speaker 3: if somebody can offer help or support in a way
38:50
Speaker 3: that I find valuable and necessary, I'll bring them on
38:53
Speaker 3: to the team. But I'm not going to wait for anybody.
38:58
Speaker 3: I am working on the album really hard. I'm diving
39:01
Speaker 3: back into it now that the mixtape run is kind
39:04
Speaker 3: of wrapping up, and I would love to get it
39:08
Speaker 3: out by the fall.
39:09
Speaker 2: I'm feeling really excited about it.
39:11
Speaker 3: It's like, I feel like I've got a lot of clarity,
39:13
Speaker 3: especially off the back of the mixtape on like my
39:16
Speaker 3: voice and my pen and my perspective and what I
39:19
Speaker 3: have to offer, and everything's so convoluted right now, like
39:24
Speaker 3: just how many people are putting out music, how many
39:26
Speaker 3: people are saying what, Like it's so busy, and so
39:30
Speaker 3: I just want to make sure that if I'm contributing,
39:32
Speaker 3: I'm contributing something meaningful and something that you know, feels
39:38
Speaker 3: timeless in like a perspective way, like I want to
39:40
Speaker 3: talk about someone else.
39:40
Speaker 1: Shit. Is there like a theme?
39:43
Speaker 3: I can't say there's like a cohesive theme at this point,
39:46
Speaker 3: but there's but it's you know, it's my life right now.
39:50
Speaker 2: It's my life right now.
39:51
Speaker 1: This has to be the most like pressure you've ever felt,
39:53
Speaker 1: because everyone's watching.
39:54
Speaker 2: You right now, I know, and I feel pretty calm
39:58
Speaker 2: about it. I feel pretty like I do.
40:01
Speaker 3: I do feel the pressure, but I'm like, I have
40:03
Speaker 3: been doing this for so long and gotten up so
40:06
Speaker 3: high and falling off so quickly that I don't have
40:10
Speaker 3: expectations anymore.
40:12
Speaker 2: I'm just like I've learned to.
40:13
Speaker 3: Trust myself and trust my skill and not and like
40:16
Speaker 3: and like be stubborn about it, you know, like not
40:19
Speaker 3: feel like I need to make this kind of record
40:22
Speaker 3: to make this work. Like so I feel I feel
40:26
Speaker 3: calm and ready.
40:27
Speaker 1: You gotta got bombs, say, but the fact I've better
40:29
Speaker 1: start rapping it. Eminem. How many times have you heard
40:33
Speaker 1: that you're the girl version of Eminem? Oh, it's got
40:36
Speaker 1: to be more than once.
40:37
Speaker 2: I could.
40:37
Speaker 3: I could buy the Nike headquarters. I could buy the
40:42
Speaker 3: Nike headquarters with pennies.
40:44
Speaker 1: With penny that's crazy, have you been? I mean you
40:48
Speaker 1: probably that's the coolest thing I feel like about growing
40:50
Speaker 1: up in Portland. I'm sure you probably got a past
40:53
Speaker 1: a Nike at this point.
40:54
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, is as abundant.
40:57
Speaker 1: Is the employee store as cool as every because I've
40:59
Speaker 1: never been. I'm a sneaker head and I always feel
41:00
Speaker 1: like I just want to go with the empty suitcase.
41:04
Speaker 3: It depends what you're looking for, Like, if you're looking
41:06
Speaker 3: for some kind of like unique, exclusive ship, like, that's
41:10
Speaker 3: not your place to find it. But what they have
41:12
Speaker 3: to offer you is like fat discounts, So you get things.
41:15
Speaker 1: Fat discounts on like running shoes, and yeah.
41:18
Speaker 3: You'll then you'll go crazy and they got good ship.
41:20
Speaker 3: Like but you know, maybe maybe I'm just jaded because
41:23
Speaker 3: we grew up with it, but you get you're you're
41:25
Speaker 3: a Duck fan, big duck fan.
41:27
Speaker 1: Are you happy that your quarterback state is staying one
41:30
Speaker 1: more year?
41:31
Speaker 2: Yeah?
41:32
Speaker 1: What's his name?
41:33
Speaker 5: More?
41:33
Speaker 1: Is that his name? Bruh? What's his name? I don't know.
41:36
Speaker 1: There were some of the Cardinals were supposed to draft
41:37
Speaker 1: him and then he decided to recommit and I was like, fuck,
41:40
Speaker 1: I'm a Cardinal fan. Oh yeah, So are you an
41:42
Speaker 1: NFL fan at all?
41:43
Speaker 2: Not really?
41:45
Speaker 3: I mean I'm from like I have a football family. Yeah,
41:48
Speaker 3: shout out of the Seahawks.
41:49
Speaker 1: Is that is that their their team? Your Portland like
41:52
Speaker 1: your family's team?
41:53
Speaker 2: No, we don't have an NFL team like that.
41:55
Speaker 3: We So my grandfather was a football coach, okay, and
41:58
Speaker 3: so he coached. He coached at the Ducks for a
42:01
Speaker 3: long time, like eighteen years.
42:02
Speaker 1: Oh that's fire.
42:03
Speaker 2: He's like an Oregon legend.
42:05
Speaker 3: And so he was kind of one of the people
42:08
Speaker 3: who kind of rekindled the Phil Knight relationship back in
42:12
Speaker 3: the nineties. Took him to the time in the Rose Bowl,
42:15
Speaker 3: and so grew up big Duck fans. And then he
42:18
Speaker 3: went he coached with the Falcons for a little while
42:20
Speaker 3: with the Rams when they were in Saint Louis, and
42:22
Speaker 3: then when I was growing.
42:23
Speaker 2: Up, he was at the University of Kentucky.
42:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, your grandpa's a g.
42:27
Speaker 2: He is a fire. I love my grandpa.
42:29
Speaker 1: So you just root for every team like he's like coaching.
42:32
Speaker 3: For any any team he was coaching for. I mean
42:35
Speaker 3: we were living on the couch every Saturday for game day.
42:38
Speaker 1: Was he like a coordinator or head coach?
42:40
Speaker 2: He was head coach. Well, it changed positions.
42:42
Speaker 3: So when he was at Atlanta he was a defensive coordinator,
42:45
Speaker 3: and but at Oregon he was head coach. At Saint Louis,
42:49
Speaker 3: I believe he was the head coach. What's his name,
42:51
Speaker 3: Rich Brooks?
42:52
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I know that's your grandpa.
42:54
Speaker 2: That's my grandpa.
42:55
Speaker 1: Oh that's sick.
42:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a and he's just a great dude, Like
42:58
Speaker 3: he's the best. Yeah, super proud of him.
43:00
Speaker 1: Shout out to your family man for holding you down
43:03
Speaker 1: because like when you were a little kid, like trying
43:06
Speaker 1: to get grandpa and understand that you wanted to be
43:08
Speaker 1: a rapper. Did he get it?
43:09
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even think I mean he gets it,
43:13
Speaker 3: like he I don't think he really liked bats and eye.
43:16
Speaker 2: I mean, he loves me. He's just like, you know,
43:18
Speaker 2: go crazy, do your thing.
43:20
Speaker 3: And we just have a battle about who has more
43:22
Speaker 3: Twitter followers and I'm finally surpassing beat but they yep,
43:25
Speaker 3: I just beat him recently, recently, but he was beating
43:28
Speaker 3: me for a long time. He's got a good Twitter.
43:30
Speaker 3: He posts like his tomato plants and shit, that's awesome.
43:33
Speaker 2: It's awesome. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, never, I'm too much of like a homebody. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and I think I mean, I'm just I'm very much
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Speaker 3: like a Pacific Northwest kid. Like my family's out there.
45:40
Speaker 3: The nature is like that's who I am. That keeps
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45:47
Speaker 2: When we go back to the.
45:48
Speaker 3: Trust and the belief where like everyone's being in that
45:50
Speaker 3: scene is very important to me. And just like staying home,
45:54
Speaker 3: staying with my friends, with my family, and uh, I
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Speaker 3: just don't want to be out like that. I'm just
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Speaker 3: really like I'm not a social person.
46:02
Speaker 1: So your hobbies outside of being an incredible MC thank.
46:07
Speaker 2: You, I'm really big in a natural history.
46:11
Speaker 1: Like what's what what's natural history?
46:13
Speaker 2: Like the history of the history of like planet Earth.
46:16
Speaker 1: And like also like caveman and like yeah.
46:19
Speaker 3: Like like evolution and dinosaurs and megafauna, like the different
46:25
Speaker 3: as you got fossil yep, I fuck with fossils, Like
46:28
Speaker 3: I have some ammonites.
46:31
Speaker 2: They're just you know that's hundreds of millions of years old.
46:34
Speaker 2: It's just sick.
46:36
Speaker 1: Wow.
46:36
Speaker 2: But and they're they're beautiful.
46:38
Speaker 1: Younosaur.
46:40
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm a kind of a raptor girl. I like raptors.
46:43
Speaker 3: I also like and Kylosaurus is just they're kind of.
46:47
Speaker 1: Is that is that a meat eater or a veggiete
46:49
Speaker 1: veggie eater.
46:51
Speaker 3: It's a veggie eater, I want to say. And they
46:54
Speaker 3: have kind of like a their back is kind of
46:59
Speaker 3: speky like that like a like a like a like
47:01
Speaker 3: a more of like a vicious large turtle kind of
47:04
Speaker 3: a thing.
47:05
Speaker 1: Were you in school, like you were the dinosaur kid
47:07
Speaker 1: in school, because we had those, not at all.
47:09
Speaker 2: This was actually a more recent thing for me.
47:11
Speaker 3: Well, I had gone through a bad breakup so random,
47:15
Speaker 3: like years ago, and I just needed a distraction. And
47:18
Speaker 3: I've always been interested. I've always loved animals. Yeah, but
47:22
Speaker 3: when you're going through a breakup, a great way to
47:24
Speaker 3: cope is by reading, because you have to like focus
47:27
Speaker 3: on the words. So I was reading like a book
47:30
Speaker 3: a day, and I got really into like the place
47:33
Speaker 3: to scene, which we know is like the ice Age,
47:36
Speaker 3: which there are actually no dinosaurs, and that's that's what
47:38
Speaker 3: we're talking MegaFon.
47:39
Speaker 2: We're talking wooly mammus.
47:40
Speaker 3: We're talking saber tooth tigers, giant ground sloths and people.
47:46
Speaker 1: People. Yeah, people were in the ice Age. Oh yeah, wow,
47:50
Speaker 1: I just know about the movie Ice Age with the
47:53
Speaker 1: little movie the Little b Who's chasing his nut.
47:55
Speaker 2: Movie, Yeah, the Little Squirrel.
47:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh and then what was the Cave The
48:00
Speaker 1: Cruds was a good cave man movie.
48:02
Speaker 2: I have seen The Cruds. Yeah, that's a good cave man.
48:04
Speaker 1: That's an interesting chat to the natural history.
48:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it's fascinating. I think it helps me.
48:11
Speaker 2: I think the knowledge has helped me have a lot
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Speaker 2: of respect for the planet.
48:14
Speaker 1: I got to feel any people in five years when
48:16
Speaker 1: you have like a number one record and I'm like, hey,
48:18
Speaker 1: what's the stupidest thing you've bought? You're gonna be I bought.
48:20
Speaker 2: I bought t rex skull. I'm telling I plan on
48:24
Speaker 2: having like a fossil room where I have ship like displayed.
48:28
Speaker 2: That's I'm being so serious.
48:29
Speaker 1: Hey, Jordan, that's pretty awesome.
48:32
Speaker 2: Thank you.
48:32
Speaker 1: Shout out to the dinosaur that What what about TV?
48:35
Speaker 1: Do you watch? To do binge? Watching any TV?
48:37
Speaker 3: I do watch TV right now, I'm watching Game of
48:39
Speaker 3: Thrones for the first time.
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Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, what season are you on?
48:43
Speaker 2: I just finished season four?
48:45
Speaker 1: Oh that shit is fire.
48:46
Speaker 2: It's fire, and I didn't it's.
48:49
Speaker 1: About to by the way, you're about to the disappointments
48:51
Speaker 1: about the kick in real fucking soon. Just so you know,
48:53
Speaker 1: I know, I know, it's fine. It's fine, it's fine.
48:56
Speaker 1: But that's what I like about it. They don't give
48:58
Speaker 1: a fuck about how I feel. No, No, they definitely don't.
49:00
Speaker 1: And I with that, you're gonna find out just how
49:03
Speaker 1: much they don't give a fuck about how you feel.
49:04
Speaker 1: Right at the end, you'll be like, what the fuck
49:06
Speaker 1: are we doing here?
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Speaker 3: Damn? But what I keep hearing, But I'm stoked. I'm
49:10
Speaker 3: here for the ride.
49:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, what's the little Prince Jeoffrey? The little motherfucker
49:14
Speaker 1: he got killed? I was so happy that kid man
49:17
Speaker 1: the worst fucking kid ever.
49:18
Speaker 2: Fuck that kid? Great actor.
49:20
Speaker 1: Though. Did you see the episode? I don't know if
49:23
Speaker 1: because I have it's been don't spoil anything. Okay, the
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Speaker 1: episode where they throw stuff and shame the lady while
49:29
Speaker 1: she walked to the city. I won't say which lady.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't think i've seen that.
49:33
Speaker 1: Okay, is the Red Wedding?
49:37
Speaker 2: I saw that. I saw that.
49:41
Speaker 1: That's episode that was tough. Such a good show. They
49:47
Speaker 1: have like spinoffs that I haven't even gotten into, like
49:49
Speaker 1: My Kid House, the Dragons and a new one that
49:52
Speaker 1: just came out.
49:53
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to get into it. It took me
49:55
Speaker 3: a little while to warm up too, because you know,
49:57
Speaker 3: it's like, it's a pretty intense.
49:59
Speaker 1: I rewatched the first twenty minutes of that show like
50:02
Speaker 1: twenty times before I got past it.
50:04
Speaker 2: Yes, seriously, I just.
50:05
Speaker 1: Kept restarting because I'm not really into like that era
50:09
Speaker 1: of shit to me either. I'm like, dude, I want
50:11
Speaker 1: to watch like Breaking Bad or some shit exactly.
50:13
Speaker 2: That's how I think, I.
50:14
Speaker 1: Don't want to watch this fucking like medieval bullshit exactly.
50:17
Speaker 1: But then when you're then you're in it, and you're like, okay,
50:20
Speaker 1: And then when they killed in the first like, uh,
50:23
Speaker 1: what's the BRA's name? The main dude? You think he's
50:26
Speaker 1: the main character and then he dies? No, no, no,
50:31
Speaker 1: the first season, I'm like, yo, killed this motherfucker me.
50:36
Speaker 2: There were a couple of bad deaths in that first
50:37
Speaker 2: bunch of ancests.
50:39
Speaker 3: I know, well that first episode there's some graphic like assault,
50:43
Speaker 3: and I was just like, I cannot watch this show.
50:45
Speaker 2: If this is gonna be a thing, I can't like
50:47
Speaker 2: watch this.
50:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm more like, I just I love that show.
50:49
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite shows. It's one of the
50:51
Speaker 1: greatest shows of all time. Yeah, but Breaking badest the Wires.
50:54
Speaker 3: My shit, I haven't seen The Wire yet. That's on
50:56
Speaker 3: my list, But Breaking Bad.
50:58
Speaker 1: I heard better, call Saws better, but I just I haven't.
51:02
Speaker 2: That's another one. You got to give it a season
51:04
Speaker 2: or two.
51:04
Speaker 1: Yo. I've watched the first three episodes of Better Call Saul,
51:08
Speaker 1: maybe five to six times. I just restarted.
51:11
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep going, I'm telling you keep going. Yes, the writing,
51:14
Speaker 3: it's a very different kind of show. So if you're
51:15
Speaker 3: looking for the action of breaking bad, that's not necessarily
51:19
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get with Better Call Saw, but you
51:20
Speaker 3: get you get validated in a different way.
51:23
Speaker 1: The last show I finished was a there's just something
51:26
Speaker 1: about like I like Billy Bob Thorton smoking cigarettes and
51:29
Speaker 1: yelling at his wife. The show land Man.
51:31
Speaker 2: I haven't sand it.
51:32
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's not the greatest show, but it's
51:35
Speaker 1: just like a comfort watch, like you just throw it
51:37
Speaker 1: on and this fool is like driving six hours from
51:40
Speaker 1: Odessa to Dallas and like cussing out people on his phone.
51:44
Speaker 2: My comfort show's more like Sex in the City.
51:47
Speaker 1: Solid.
51:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
51:48
Speaker 1: My son's name is Aiden, oh nice, which it wasn't
51:51
Speaker 1: on purpose. Yeah, but around the time that that show
51:54
Speaker 1: was popping, my kid's twenty one. So around the time
51:57
Speaker 1: that show was popping, I didn't know Aiden was a
52:01
Speaker 1: fucking dude on the fucking show.
52:03
Speaker 2: Yeah damn, yeah, Yeah, that's a popular name.
52:07
Speaker 3: Enthusiasm that's also great show. That's another comfort show all time.
52:11
Speaker 1: You know what sucks there was like when like people
52:13
Speaker 1: you love like if Seinfeld used to be one of
52:16
Speaker 1: my favorite shows. Sign was a piece of ship shouts
52:18
Speaker 1: to him.
52:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never got I never got into that, so
52:21
Speaker 2: I can.
52:22
Speaker 1: Great show, but but horrible guy. Just okay with the
52:26
Speaker 1: genocide ship you well you're are you selling these?
52:31
Speaker 3: I only at my shows the show to get one exactly,
52:36
Speaker 3: but if I did, it would be a good thing.
52:39
Speaker 1: Yes, So people can only buy these from you at
52:41
Speaker 1: the shows, that's right. Do you have a store online
52:44
Speaker 1: like where people can like buy like shirts or anything?
52:46
Speaker 3: Uh?
52:47
Speaker 1: Not right now? I don't you need some march together?
52:50
Speaker 2: I know, I know. I'm a.
52:54
Speaker 1: Guy to do it.
52:55
Speaker 2: I know.
52:56
Speaker 1: Honestly, tell them to stop in your house to.
53:00
Speaker 2: Jalen Troy when you see this.
53:04
Speaker 1: So people get all right, people can buy these at
53:07
Speaker 1: the show?
53:08
Speaker 2: Nice, Yes they can?
53:10
Speaker 1: And uh, you don't have any merch? I don't have any.
53:13
Speaker 2: I mean I have merch with the shows, have tea
53:15
Speaker 2: shirts of the shows.
53:16
Speaker 1: You are in one of the most like tech savvy
53:18
Speaker 1: progressive place for Can we get a shopify going? I know?
53:22
Speaker 2: Fuck jeez, fuck, I'm just one girl team.
53:26
Speaker 1: Uh so hopefully album coming. Uh you said spring, no fall,
53:31
Speaker 1: summer fall? Oh falls a while, but.
53:33
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start rolling it out, like the whole album.
53:35
Speaker 3: You'll get you know in the fall back. I'd like
53:37
Speaker 3: to get some singles out.
53:38
Speaker 1: Have you been to Asia yet?
53:39
Speaker 2: Have never been to Asia?
53:41
Speaker 1: You should? Asia? Asia is a vibe. You should go
53:43
Speaker 1: out there.
53:44
Speaker 2: I would love to go to Japan.
53:45
Speaker 1: They got this chick out there. Her name is a Witch.
53:47
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she just did a whole album with the Rizza.
53:50
Speaker 1: Oh sick. She's fucking hard.
53:52
Speaker 2: Damn.
53:53
Speaker 1: She's like from Japan, but she's very like she was
53:56
Speaker 1: like married to like a black Israelite like five percent
54:00
Speaker 1: center and like dude ended up passing away. She's got
54:02
Speaker 1: crazy ass story. You talked to her, so she sounds
54:04
Speaker 1: like she's from the Bronx, but.
54:07
Speaker 2: She's on some rap shit she barre.
54:10
Speaker 1: Yeah sick. Where's she from? Okinawa? Yeah sick? She's dope. Yeah.
54:16
Speaker 1: I love to get you out. Yeah.
54:19
Speaker 3: I would love to get to Asia, one of the
54:20
Speaker 3: great Whenever that makes sense, I will absolutely be there.
54:23
Speaker 1: Just take your boyfriend, you guys, go get like, go
54:26
Speaker 1: on a sushi vacation.
54:27
Speaker 2: Yeah in this economy.
54:30
Speaker 1: This economy is fun. But then you're gonna get over
54:33
Speaker 1: there and you're gonna be like, oh, the world is bigger.
54:35
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and then you start having these like weird thoughts.
54:38
Speaker 1: Every time you turn on CNN, You're like, I could
54:40
Speaker 1: make it work in Japan.
54:42
Speaker 2: You're like maybe, yeah, then I get there, man, maybe
54:43
Speaker 2: I don't need to go back.
54:45
Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, well, listen, the mixtape is out. People can
54:48
Speaker 1: stream it on YouTube, yeah, YouTube.
54:52
Speaker 3: They can download it on my website if they want
54:54
Speaker 3: it in there, you know, on their phone.
54:56
Speaker 1: You can buy it illegally at the shot show and
55:00
Speaker 1: album on the way Yes. Uh. Tour with Freddy Gibbs.
55:04
Speaker 1: You're gonna be overseas and just doing the two dates,
55:05
Speaker 1: just the two dates, any other tour stuff being the works.
55:09
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the goal. Nothing I can say right now.
55:12
Speaker 1: But that means yes, but that's the goal. Thanks for
55:14
Speaker 1: hanging out, Thank you for having me that appreciate Fire
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Speaker 1: h