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Patriots Unfiltered 5/26: Which rookies will contribute most?, More of a concern: offense or defense? · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. A lot of body judging on Matt Jones yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it's interesting that after I got destroyed all of
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  Speaker 1: last year for claiming that he probably could use a
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  Speaker 1: little nutritional help, he looks really good. He's not, He's gone.
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  Speaker 1: Who said it, Kendrick Bourne? Can't you imagine that? You're like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: watch me work out. Joe Judge offensive genius, the hot
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  Speaker 1: new name in offensive football. But what if Brian Hoyer
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  Speaker 1: called the plays based on what? Because he's Brian Hoyer,
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  Speaker 1: he has those funky little hats. I wish everyone could
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  Speaker 1: have seen Mike and his chair apprehensible because I thought
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  Speaker 1: it might get made fun of carrying it out there,
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  Speaker 1: but he did every cheese. No, Chunky's it's a movie theater,
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  Speaker 1: but it's kind of like overWe I hear Chunky, and
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  Speaker 1: all Right, Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Gillette Stadium, and I think everybody has Memorial Day
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  Speaker 1: on their mind. The long weekend, right finally, yeah, some
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  Speaker 1: kids sports free, just a free weekend for the first
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  Speaker 1: time in about two months. No kids, I got nothing really,
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  Speaker 1: no like tournaments and tournaments. Yeah, I don't have tournaments
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  Speaker 1: this weekend either. I used to be Memorial Day was
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  Speaker 1: big for the soccer to yes, huge, huge my town, Holliston.
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  Speaker 1: I would always meet people Memoire. I used to go
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  Speaker 1: to the Memorial Day tournament Halston because they would just
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  Speaker 1: do everybody would descend upon not anymore. Well, my kids
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  Speaker 1: don't play soccer, nor do mine. Oh so perhaps it's
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  Speaker 1: still going on. But yeah, no, it's gonna enjoy soccer
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  Speaker 1: a little pool time. You got your pool gone. The pools,
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  Speaker 1: open pools, open, open pools, open water. Good water's cold
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  Speaker 1: cold because it's still getting cold at night. That's okay. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: get some steaks, grill them. Yeah. I felt like a
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  Speaker 1: Stanza when I had a vacuum in the pool last week.
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  Speaker 1: It was cold, little shrinkage going on. You weren't even
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  Speaker 1: in the pool, You're just standing next to it. So yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then uh saw Maddie pe walking out us down
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  Speaker 1: here earlier, so I know they're they're still continuing OTAs today,
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  Speaker 1: so we'll get a look at them on Tuesday. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess we should say too that the show will
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  Speaker 1: be Wednesday. Yeah, we made that decision. Fred was nice
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  Speaker 1: enough to grant Mike and I the practice extends into
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  Speaker 1: the showtime, and we figured, you know, rather than changed
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  Speaker 1: the show, and you know, having at two or three
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  Speaker 1: in the afternoon, you guys can wrap up what happened
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  Speaker 1: at you know, get the blobservations up all that stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and then we'll have a full show. We have, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, a few hours to ruminate on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: full show on Wednesday of next week. So we'll be
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  Speaker 1: on Wednesday and Thursdays Wednesday. Yeah, so next week Wednesday
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  Speaker 1: and Thursday, twelve to two, just so everybody knows, be good,
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  Speaker 1: get get another look. See if there's anybody else. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: curious to see that, you know, some of those those
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things. You know, Um, we had some players
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  Speaker 1: that were around on Monday, but we're kind of not
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  Speaker 1: really involved, you know, like Peppers and mcgron, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Pierre Strong. I think there was you know, various levels
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  Speaker 1: of player be curious to see if there's any progression
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  Speaker 1: in that regard. You know, when we move ahead to
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  Speaker 1: next week, I try not to get too carried away,
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  Speaker 1: and mandatory mini camp will be the next week. So
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  Speaker 1: that made me give you a little bit more in
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  Speaker 1: terms of the attendance of some of the veteran guys
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  Speaker 1: that weren't there. Maybe they show up. If they're not there,
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  Speaker 1: that might be something. And it's hard to know too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, along those lines, Mike, you know who's there,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't really see there that you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think both kickers decided to I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to throw that. It's it's it's voluntary. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure they were kicking somewhere. Yeah, probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: inside or something or somewhere that we just didn't see them,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So you know, there's fifteen twenty guys that
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  Speaker 1: we didn't see. I think on Monday, I'd be curious
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  Speaker 1: how many of those guys actually decided they're not going
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  Speaker 1: to OTAs or maybe it was just a day that
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  Speaker 1: now I can't today I got something. I mean, I've
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  Speaker 1: seen plenty of times just random walking on the baby
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  Speaker 1: having a baby six month process in the offseason having
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  Speaker 1: a baby. But you know, once you get them to mandatory,
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  Speaker 1: medi can't maybe get a little bit clear of a picture.
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  Speaker 1: But it'd be good to get back out there. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you get so overwhelmed that first day and
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  Speaker 1: the numbers are new, when guys you know over here
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  Speaker 1: and who's this and you don't really have a sense
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  Speaker 1: of everybody yet, and it just gets so tough year
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  Speaker 1: to year two where you always have like an offensive
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  Speaker 1: linemen in number fifty eight that you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: you can't is that on when you like, is that
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  Speaker 1: they all just kind of start to blend together a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. I mean that that is really uh, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's annoying beyond beyond belief at this point, like trying
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  Speaker 1: to like, you know, get the smaller guys that are
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  Speaker 1: in the big numbers, and you know, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's the poor punter out there. Who the punter there's
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  Speaker 1: a second punter in camp Freddie Yeah, and I thank you.
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  Speaker 1: The name was escaping me at the moment. He does
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  Speaker 1: not looked like a punter, you know, he's not the
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  Speaker 1: tip of it. Doesn't look like Jake Bailey at all. Um.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and he's a little stocky and he's got
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  Speaker 1: like a sixty something number, right, uh, sixty two. He
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  Speaker 1: looks like he could be an offensive linement. I'm not exaggeray,
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  Speaker 1: he's a little short um, but he's a little thick
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  Speaker 1: for an offensive alignement. Just and as I have said
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  Speaker 1: all last year with Mac Jones, I know Doey, I know, overweight,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, like this guy doesn't look like a
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  Speaker 1: punter to me. And you know back up long snapper
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  Speaker 1: two number seventy two. I said, you know, there's just
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  Speaker 1: a lot to look at it focused on Tuesday and
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more able to to watch things, but
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  Speaker 1: you know talking about you know, scheme stuff and what
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  Speaker 1: are they doing? And that's I was like, this is
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  Speaker 1: just a snapshot of like two weeks where they're out
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  Speaker 1: there every day. You know, what are the what are
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  Speaker 1: the chances that they were like, well, let's wait till
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  Speaker 1: the media is there to really unveil the new stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we're doing, Like we'll do it that day, right
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  Speaker 1: and don't think and rightly so don't think Bill doesn't
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  Speaker 1: think along those right, he knows the day the media
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  Speaker 1: is there. The question is is if he decides to
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  Speaker 1: put something boring in, or if he puts something completely
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  Speaker 1: extraneous in just to screw with everybody too, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like like that's more common than all right, So today's
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  Speaker 1: the day we'll put in all the secret stuff. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the day the media is there here. Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: we're really thinking of moving you know, so and sod
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  Speaker 1: this position. Let's do it on the day the media
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  Speaker 1: is there. You know. That's why I think the mini camp.
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  Speaker 1: You get three consecutive days, and you know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit harder to hide stuff and everybody's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be there. So I'm I'm more this. It's just so
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  Speaker 1: hard like people are and I hey, I love me
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  Speaker 1: some five things to watch kind of post some stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but like five things to watch it ota is really
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  Speaker 1: like are you really? It's who's there? That that's kind
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  Speaker 1: of it. Like after that, I came up with way
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  Speaker 1: more than five things don't hate. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing next week, but I had a good one week.
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  Speaker 1: Forty seven things to see. I didn't do that. Does
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  Speaker 1: Thornton look any faster? Has he gotten faster and gotten up?
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  Speaker 1: I like, has a risk put out any weight? Yet
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  Speaker 1: risks are still very very skinny. Yeah, yes, so, as
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  Speaker 1: you can guess, we don't have much to talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: I got one thing I thought was the practice squad stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was a little bit of news yesterday
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  Speaker 1: of of interest, which I'm glad I missed it. I'm glad.
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  Speaker 1: So there instead of fourteen, they're up to up to
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  Speaker 1: sixteen members of the practice squad. It wasn't sixteen was
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  Speaker 1: supposed to there was. It was supposed to go as
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  Speaker 1: the old CBA, the progression each year it went from
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  Speaker 1: like twelve and then this year it was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be fourteen. But so they did away with that. They said,
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  Speaker 1: let's just go straight to sixteen. I think it was
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  Speaker 1: going to go to sixteen like next year maybe, so
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  Speaker 1: they kept it at sixteen. So they kept it at
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  Speaker 1: six Its been the last two right yep. And so
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  Speaker 1: then you can elevate h three times and you can
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  Speaker 1: have six veterans. So there's you know, they kept that,
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  Speaker 1: which I mean, I'm a huge fan of it. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's great just for being able to give veteran
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  Speaker 1: guys jobs, having some some security on your roster of
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  Speaker 1: backups who are experienced and you know, have the ability
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  Speaker 1: to protect people a little bit. So, um, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's I think it's good, especially for a team like
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots where they're you know a little bit in transition,
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  Speaker 1: they're able to you know, have a bigger roster and
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  Speaker 1: hold on to more of those guys. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a good thing. I agree. I have a question.
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  Speaker 1: It's more of a content question for fans. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: there was news yesterday that the NFL wants to start
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  Speaker 1: like an NFL Plus type thing, you know, similar to
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  Speaker 1: what everybody else. And so my question that I'd love
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  Speaker 1: to get input from fans on is, other than having
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  Speaker 1: access to any game at any time, what would you
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  Speaker 1: be what kype of content would you be willing to
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  Speaker 1: pay extra for or just pay for you know, you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: and again outside of the game, you know, yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would be willing to
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  Speaker 1: pay you know, five bucks a month to have access
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  Speaker 1: to every game, you know, sure, Um, But outside of that,
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  Speaker 1: what what would you be willing to pay money for?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I would love it if they could fix
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  Speaker 1: the All twenty two stuff. I mean last year, I know,
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  Speaker 1: they completely redid it and they started from scratch on it. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just it it's really tough to watch. It's
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  Speaker 1: really tough to watch now. You know, you used to
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  Speaker 1: be able to search by a player and and and
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  Speaker 1: categorize it by plays, and hey, you know, the Patriots
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  Speaker 1: just signed Kendrick Bourne. Let's put let's search him. Let's
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  Speaker 1: see all his big plays that he's had over the
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  Speaker 1: last three years, and you could search that and you
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  Speaker 1: can watch it on the All twenty two when you
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  Speaker 1: pop up. You know now the way it is, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's you gotta pick which camera you want. Do you
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  Speaker 1: want the end zone camera, do you want the big
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  Speaker 1: guy in the sky, and then it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: runs through the plays you can't search. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know this is the nerd part of the program,
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  Speaker 1: but but for me, that was just something that that
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  Speaker 1: that that completely got taken apart and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: thrown back together and it's nowhere near as it used
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  Speaker 1: to be. I'm not aware of all that stuff, but
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  Speaker 1: I would agree with Mike on that. I think if
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  Speaker 1: they had that feature that was easily sortable and surgeable
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  Speaker 1: and they took it away, that's that's a step in
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  Speaker 1: the wrong direction. I would say, fred Danton, your request. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I would be interested in paying for something, And I
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  Speaker 1: know this probably is unlikely to happen, but something hard
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  Speaker 1: knocks ish for behind for my team? Can I get
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  Speaker 1: any behind the scenes content that's not public? Now? I
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  Speaker 1: know that that's a huge ask, right, I'm not stupid,
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  Speaker 1: especially for organizations like hours that are pretty guarded with
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  Speaker 1: you know, the the behind the curtain stuff. But anything
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  Speaker 1: that I could get that's not public uh publicly accessed,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be willing to pay five What about what about
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  Speaker 1: stats wise like anything? Do you care about that, like
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  Speaker 1: the next gen stuff? For any of that? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm a bad example for that because I
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  Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people who love that,
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  Speaker 1: love that stuff and love you know, if you could
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  Speaker 1: incorporate PFF or advanced the analytics kind of stuff into it.
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  Speaker 1: But not not really for me. That that's not something
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  Speaker 1: I'm really dying for. I like to be able to
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  Speaker 1: just kind of watch it and interpret it myself. It's
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  Speaker 1: not for me either, But for the people that do
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  Speaker 1: like it, I think they have it For those kinds
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  Speaker 1: of things, I think they can pay for. Right. What
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  Speaker 1: about gambling? Anything there? I think? Can I say? I
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  Speaker 1: think I think anything and everything. If you think, I
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  Speaker 1: think there's an enormous I have this idea for you know,
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  Speaker 1: the league can't actually take the bets, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Like they can't get into the business of
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  Speaker 1: being a bookie, not yet, right, but but um, I
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  Speaker 1: have an idea for the league to build this engine
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  Speaker 1: or engine as I say. And what this does is
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  Speaker 1: it you go in there, you pay like a subscriber fee,
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  Speaker 1: and it offers you all the bets that all the
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  Speaker 1: approved bookies are offering, like MGM and Caesar's and all that,
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  Speaker 1: and so you can look at everything from who's gonna
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  Speaker 1: win to over and under two the little microprop bets,
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  Speaker 1: and you use this engine to place your bets with
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  Speaker 1: these approved you know houses. And the engine also tracks
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  Speaker 1: your bet on game day, so you know, during the
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  Speaker 1: game you're watching the game, you can also see how
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  Speaker 1: your bets are doing. Am I winning? Am I losing?
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  Speaker 1: What's the probability of me making money today? And you
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  Speaker 1: can like you know, go in and make more bets,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So it's this like total like sort of
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  Speaker 1: platform that manages your game day gambling. Um. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: the league, what how the league makes money is the
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  Speaker 1: Caesars and the MGMs of the world pay to be
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  Speaker 1: part of this engine, you know, so my, my, my
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  Speaker 1: offerings are being exposed to you know, the person um,
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  Speaker 1: but the league doesn't take any vig or anything like
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  Speaker 1: that obviously. You know what would would would part of
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  Speaker 1: it be that, you know, I'm getting these odds from MGM,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm getting a's part of it. You you can shop.
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  Speaker 1: And also, you know, prop bets aren't the same with
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  Speaker 1: every house, so like MGM might be doing a certain
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  Speaker 1: type of prop bed and Caesars is doing a completely
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  Speaker 1: different one. Oh, this is an interesting one. Yeah, if
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  Speaker 1: you could sort by game down on this bed, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for you know, when I you know, dabbled a little
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  Speaker 1: bit in college football gambling way back when like I
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  Speaker 1: know I'm going to be stuck watching this game. I
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  Speaker 1: can sort by the game, pull that game up and
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  Speaker 1: gives me everything, the line, the props, everything right there,
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  Speaker 1: and I can shut and this manages for you. And
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  Speaker 1: so at any point in time during the day, you
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  Speaker 1: can see how am I doing? Am I up? Am
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  Speaker 1: I down? You know? And what about like draft Kings
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  Speaker 1: or you know, daily fantasy where you have a team,
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  Speaker 1: is there could there be Ye, I think I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: you know. I think that might be overcomplicating it a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, you know, um, but this is for
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  Speaker 1: like straight betting with the with the sports books. Yeah
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  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, well I think if the comparison, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and having one stop shop for for everything, if if
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  Speaker 1: you if you're into that kind of I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not the next I mean, yeah, it's again, it's
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  Speaker 1: not geared to me, but I can understand the appeal,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like if you know, like and you can
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  Speaker 1: you can do the micro bets, like it's a buck.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a buck on this prop bet, and
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: so I have fifty dollars that I'm gonna play with
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  Speaker 1: on game day and I'm gonna spread it out and
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  Speaker 1: then see how I'm doing. You know. Yeah. It's like
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  Speaker 1: you see on Twitter all the time, you know. I
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  Speaker 1: think Ravel, Darren Ravel always tweets out these outrageous parlays
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  Speaker 1: that get hit, you know, like sixteen team parley, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like and you're win fifty grand. But this is a
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  Speaker 1: good way to like track it. You have it in
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  Speaker 1: an easy yeah, easily digest. How's my parlay doing up?
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  Speaker 1: I just lost or I'm still in the running. You know,
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  Speaker 1: all I need is these two other things. But you
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  Speaker 1: have it all in front of you, decide what you
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  Speaker 1: want to do, yes, even before you know, like obviously
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: anybody can track their own bets, but like I have
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  Speaker 1: all of my options very easily digestible right in front
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  Speaker 1: of me. I think people would pay. I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is probably part to have this engine available to them,
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  Speaker 1: and I think the the sports books would pay to
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  Speaker 1: be part of it. Yeah, it guess. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: can convenience. I don't know enough about people's gambling habits
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: of you know, are you kind of dedicated to one
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  Speaker 1: particular place, like I just I only go with this
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  Speaker 1: outlet you know that and this you set up an
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  Speaker 1: account and so then it's convenient. And how much of
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  Speaker 1: that is done? Like again I'm asking because I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't do any of this, but like I know,
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  Speaker 1: like draft kings sites are huge now with all their
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  Speaker 1: like the tradition not just fantasy, daily fantasy, but regular
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  Speaker 1: sports betting, right, I mean, how much of that has
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  Speaker 1: already done? Well, it's done. But again, when you're with
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: draft Kings, you're just doing DraftKings you're just doing their book. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know this exposes you to everyone's books. That's part
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: of it. And like you said, you can shop, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: like I can get minus seven here, but I can
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: get seven and a half year. I'm gonna put it
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: with this one. If there was a Draft Kings kind
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: of element to it, I wonder if they're by they
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: a service to have a consultant, you know, somebody privately
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: or whatever can look at your team and say advisor, advisor,
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: and I'll give you some some tips. I'm a consultant.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I consultant. Well, I go back to you know, my
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: cousins were all way into it, and we went to
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: the Patriots forty nine Ers game back in twenty sixteen.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: You know, it's great family trip. Let's all stay in
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: the hotel, we get up game day morning and there
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: are they got like spreadsheets out there. I mean it
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: was a whole thing for them though. And the multiple
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: lineups and you know, trying to find that one key
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: random dude who's gonna go off that one day that
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: that seems like everything in Daily Fantasy. So it's a
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: it's a huge world, huge world, sure, you know. So
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: again I'm throwing out there. What would you be willing
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: to pay money for in terms of content or things
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like this. You know this isn't necessary content, but it's
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: a tool that you know. Uh, and Mike brought up,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: you know, an old San Francisco game from twenty sixteen.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: In terms of news in the league, there was some
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: news yesterday had not really involving the Patriots by Colin Kaepernick,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: you know, supposedly getting a tryout with the with the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Raiders Josh McDaniels deciding to bring him in to give
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: him a look and see what comes and what do
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I gotta do? Seriously, well, you brought the forty nine
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: ers up. I thought you were going to talk about
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: that linebacker that got into the thing Law. It didn't.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: The kid kept asking what did I What did I say? What?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: You know? What? What? He never would he never got
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: into it. I didn't see it. So I guess Javon
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Kin Law has had a problem with the the Sports
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Illustrated San Francisco guy, I think his name is Grant
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Cohen or something like cone Um and he sort of
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: confronted him on the practice field the other day. And
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like I generally, I generally I'm on
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: the side of the player on these kinds of things.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: But then I guess he was, you know, so he
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: confronted the guy and whatever, and you know, that was that.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: And then the guy was doing like a video podcast,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: like a video report, and they told Ken Law that
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he's out doing it. So he he goes, I want
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: to be part of this. I want to be on it.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: So I guess he went on it, you know, a
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: via zoom or something like that, right, Yeah, did you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: see this? I didn't see it. I heard it. Yeah,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And he just like Fred's right, he just like the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: guy kept saying, well, what did I write? What did
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I say? And he just wanted to be like a big, intimidating,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: tough guy, you know, while eating, like I'm tougher than you,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Like he's got food in his mouth. Yeah. It was like, yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, you you coward, you cowared like
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: a little like respect my name. It's like, what did
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I do to disrespect? And he wouldn't answer. He never answered.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So I don't know if the guy is like a
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: muck ray. I find him. Hard to believe that anybody
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: nowadays around the league, especially anybody doing like video podcasts,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: is killing the players, Like I'm sorry, they're all so
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: pro player, pro team. Now. I don't really think that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: anybody could have done anything that was that bad. So
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: kin Law came off really poorly, I thought. And it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: not really sports illustrated anymore, like you, but it's sports
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: illustrated like dot forty nine ers, right man, Like every
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: buddy that does our pre and postgame pregame show from Miami, Paul, Yeah,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: he I think does some of that stuff for Sports
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: Illustrated Miami. Is that what? Oh? No, Henry, I don't
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: know who the Henry is Henry that guy for the Today,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: But it's like kind of similar ways that they've tacked,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: but they all have like a blog team by he
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: might be a USA. It's so funny, you know. You know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: you call it a podcast and you you do something
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: for a half hour an hour, and all that does
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: is take it one step above just posting on social media.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, anybody can do it, you know, but it
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: gives it a little bit more legitimacy. Like nowadays, like
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: all the controversial stuff is being set on these stupid podcasts. Yeah,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you know, like because people get on it and they
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: they act more relaxed and whether you know what's from
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: the top like Lebron James show, you know, down to
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: like this guy. You know, you feel like you could
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: say whatever you want and people are getting in trouble.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: And I got the opinion, I mean the impression I
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: should say, um that it might have been like injury related,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: like he didn't like that he was talking about his
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: injury or something like that, something like you said, I
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: was in the training room and I wasn't in the
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: training room. Yeah, training rooms, not even here, something like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, like why that would have gotten
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: him so mad. And then someone had said because I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: was listening to this untoucher and rich, I assume that's
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: what Fred was hearing it too, Um not my show.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Never really been on that show, um. But someone had
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: looked back and saw that other other players were upset
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: with this guy. And I think Deebo Samuel was like saying,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you know, calling it uh FN right, And I assume
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that that Oh, no, FR fake reporter. I assumed that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: means FR. I don't want anybody named. It could be
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it could be a lot of things. Far. No, that's true,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: that's true. You're right, you know, I was trying to
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: be clean. Yeah, with the Dynasty book in the background.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: There you go. Geez. I wonder how he got ahold
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, there we go. Um let's see. Uh, Tim,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: our friend from Duncan writes in to answer your question
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: regarding what I would pay five bucks a month for.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I think about the time you had the Not Done
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Network one year for Super Bowl Week. You had everything
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: related to the Patriots that was live, and then you
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: showed all of the great Patriots games in the off hours.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I remember what an undertaking that was, but I must
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: tell you it was great and worth paying for. It's
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: gonna cushie. But that's the other thing, you know, from
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the team side, if you're offering it, it's got to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: be sustainable, right. That's not sustainable, right, And that's what
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: I was saying, like behind the scenes stuff. Yeah right,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: ray Leota did huh. No, I didn't know it was sick.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I think I knew he was sick. But he says,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: I'm seeing a banner here sixty sixty seven. Oh, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: didn't know that it was that old either, ray Leoda.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: That's that's was he in Good Fellas? Who did he play?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: He was the guy Henry Hill. Oh okay, yeah all right.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Uh my wife Lane interviewed him once that one of
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: her old jobs, and thought he was just the greatest guy,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: had a great had a great story. Just like did
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: he have the story? Uh you know the laugh from
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Field of Dreams? Probably right right, that's that's what he said. Yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: he was in Field of Dreams? Ye? Now who was
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: he in that? She was the guy? I think he
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: came out of the corn. That's that's so interesting, had
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: a storied career. I wasn't even aware what else hand?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Oh right, they cooked the brain? Yeah that one? Yeah?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Who was he in that one? The guy? I didn't
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: see him that they cooked the brain? They fed it to?
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Was his brain? Yeah? Oh? Rest in Peace radio? That's uh,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: just in the Sopranos movie that came out last year.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah. He was York, New York, New York, York.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Um Anthony writes in from Connecticut. Long time, no email,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: But I heard about the NFL unveiling NFL plus this
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: summer and was wondering if that was going to affect
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: content coming from you guys. Uh not not to my knowledge. No,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: as for my patriots question, if you gave Robert Craft
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Truth Serum, how long do you think that leash would
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: be for Mac Jones? In other words, what is he
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: looking for in Mac? In same question for what Bill
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: thinks of Mac. I think he's looking for wins wins. Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: but how long would the leash be? Three years? Yeah,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: until I think if you don't see steady improvement after
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: three years, you start looking for the next right, And
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I'm not like, like, if he
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: has two more years like the first year, I don't
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: think they'll pull the plug. But if he you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: like Plateautin is going the other way, and you got
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: to think about it, well's I think that having to
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: pick up the option will be at the after year three.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: That's kind of that inflection point of that's why why
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: I chose that. Yeah, yeah, I mean today, I think
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that's gonna be That'd be interesting, That'd be interesting. Um.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Let's say James, the most interesting Patriots fan of the world,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: says he's in Scotland at the moment, Edinburgh and pay
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: for the European version of Sunday ticket. It comes with
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: every NFL game, which I don't care for, and loads
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: up other NFL crap. I would like a package like that.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: Um would be Patriots games, Red Zone, NFL Network, and
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: NFL films. NHL lets me buy either all Bruins games
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: or all NHL games. Do it, Fred? Yeah, so that's
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: the games, obviously, I think, and I think there will
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: be something in terms of games domestically. But games, yes.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've had Sunday ticket forever and people bought
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: direct TV just because they wanted. I mean, the games
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: are the are the crown jewel. I get that that's
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: worth paying money for. But besides that, that's what I'm
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: looking for. I think you need to access I mean
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: maybe they already have this too, but I mean access
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: to the NFL films library. You know, I'm demondered about that.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Like if you watch any game, you know, the end
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: of pass games, you know, like from the history of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the NFL, would that be worth paying for? I mean
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: give me that, give me all the coaching life or
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the football life's give me those. Okay, So you pay
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: for that for one year? Would you pay for it
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: for two years? Like the second year would be like
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I really need this, you know, That's what I wonder, Like, like,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know, one of I was talking with the league,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: and one of the examples I used was Mandalorian, Like,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I like, when I'm watching Mandalorian, I'm so glad that
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I bought Disney Plus like that, like, Okay, it's worth it,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know. And that's the key. That's to me, that's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: the test. When you're watching the content, are you happy
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: you made that purchase? Yeah? I think that's a great example.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I would, you know, piggyback off that
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and say, you know, I'm the same way with Mandalorian
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: and now with Obi Wan Premier, Like I haven't probably
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: watched Disney Plus at all since Mandalorian ended, but I
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: kept it. You don't care you have it because there's
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: something that you will, right. I know, they're going to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: keep churning out that kind of content and it's too
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: much of a pain in the butt to stop paying
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: six bucks a month or whatever it is. What if
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you had um and I don't know if you can't
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: even do this, but during games, um you had some
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: sort of hometown like maning cast. Yeah, that's alternate viewing
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. Yeah, do we already say that. I'm sorry, no, no, no, no, no,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's another one. And let's just
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: say that's say, well, we can't do that because we
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: have to protect a broadcast. Right, what if you had
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that same idea, But it's after the game, so a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: reviewing of the game. So I've watched the game, but
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: now I'm going to watch it with you know, mattch
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: ch Adam or whoever. Yeah, you know and Matt Chadam. Okay,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but it's going to be a director's cut of the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: game from this, you know, person's opinion who I respect
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: or can give me insight that Chris collins Worth and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know how Michael's even couldn't. I think it's a
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: really interesting question. Um, that would be worth a study
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: of some sort. What are fans viewing habits after the game,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: whether the team wins or loses? What are you are? You?
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Are you more likely a winner or a loss? I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: mean I think everybody would probably or not everybody. But
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I think what makes the most sense is people would
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: want to tune into team specific content, so you know,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: coming right into a Patriot's perspective of the loss or
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the win. But do people want that? Is that? You know?
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Or do people just all right, I watched the game
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: it's been a long day. I got things to do.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: I'm not ready to jump into you know, to watch
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: for another hour. I mean, I know people listen to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: the postgame show. It's a little different though when it's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: a you know, a TV show that you have to
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: watch and sit down and be around for. So I
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: don't know, I just would wonder what what are fans
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: view habits like before and before the game too? And
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: after the game? Is there a space there too? Um?
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean we obviously we do the pre and postgame show.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Those you know, work pretty well, but you know, as
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: there could could it be bigger? Could it be bigger
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: than that? And it's also kind of one of the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: tests I had for like stuff you're willing to pay
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: for is if I don't watch it, if I don't
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: see it, I'm not part of the conversation because so
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: many people are watching it. So like for a team
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: were they like, so many people watch this thing. If
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I don't watch it, then I don't know what people
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: were talking about. You know. Yeah, that's hard. That's a
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: tough bar to hit because it's gotta be like really
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: really compelling content, you know, water cooler type content. Yeah,
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: you know, right, it's tough. I mean, you know, I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: think I mean sometimes get a player. You know, it's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: like little things that you could see, like if we
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: had like a you know again Pie in the Sky,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but if you could have like two or three different
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: player podcast like they own it, it's their shows, but
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: we we have it under our umbrella and you pay
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: you know, X amount per month to have access to
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: these players shows. Would you be willing to pay for that?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I wouldn't. I mean, the only thing
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and there's no way of ever knowing this, like if
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: you hit gold, like if you have like a Pat
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: McAfee right, like you never know if you have that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: guy right right, you know, and that's just the personality
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: drive person right. It would have to be something that
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: you would do and then you to you a point, Fred,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you'd be hearing about it like, hey, you know this
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: this Peyton Manning cast him and UI are kind of funny.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen, you know, the third week that they
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: do it, you know, people are talking about this, that's
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: kind of funny. I'm gonna try it. Pat McAfee show
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: has taken off, right, but I don't know how many
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: shows how many like if the Colts ever could rap
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: bring him back in right now they have they have
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: a winner. I mean you could do it with Brady
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: like I mean, I know he's not you know not,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: but but every team has that, right if you had
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: after the game, here's gonna be your direct access to
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a famous Hall of Fame player breaking down what just happened.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, no, no disrespect to me and Paul and party,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: but you know that's one of those things that you
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: get a guy of that caliber. It doesn't matter if
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: he sucks like that's that. That's like right, what we
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: were talking about, Like if if we ever get Bill
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: to do anything right and doesn't matter if he doesn't
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: have anything to say, it's Bill. It's Bill. Every people
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: hang on everywhere, interest and everything that he does right,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: The same would be the case with a guy like Brady. Yeah. Um,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: speaking of Brady. Um, his little internet fraud yesterday, Oh
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that was that was made up. He didn't really hit
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: a hole on one. What do you think? I don't know?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, Matt, what do you think? I mean? I
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: need to see it from the videos. I saw no
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: way they said that. They actually they filmed every one
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: of his shots, and so that he happened to hit
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: a hole in one. So it's not like they happen
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to have a camera on that time and he hit
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: a hole in one. No, they shot the whole round. No,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: I I know, but like there's no real shot of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the shot. Yeah, there's this lame the drone pilot, which
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: looks completely hard to do, like the drone I know,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: looks kind of cgish to me. Really, I don't know,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Like I was just happy to see something go right
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: for him. You know, it's been a tough grime. He
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: caught a break well, speaking of like what to believe
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: on Twitter, Like, there was a picture going around the
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: other day of Aaron Judge and he's got a Poland
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Springs bottle and it's they claim it's a it's a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: normal size bottle, but it looks like a little thing
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: in his hands. And I guess I think it was photoshop.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: But it was so funny. I was gonna starting, I
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like Aaron Judge. I was gonna start like, you know, uh,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: putting mentions in, like you know, Aaron Judge miss like
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: you know, his foot is so big and he can't
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: fit in the batter's box and you know, things like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: that he's a giant. He's like almost out of proportion.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: He's just that big for base. Imagine, he's just gotta be.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I saw a picture I think from of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: him from like high school where it was he was
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: already just well, this is what I hope Paul knows.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: This is what I hope for Aaron Judge. I wanted
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: him to be the next Babe Ruth, you know, the
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: bigger than the game. And like now I don't know
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: if he's gonna resign with the Yankees. Um a lot
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: of money. No matter where he goes, he's gonna like
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: break the bank. But I hope, I kind of hope
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: he stays with the Yankees because that's where that guy
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: should be in New York. Judge one right down the line,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, but I love him in the
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Red Sox of course, but like you know, he could
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: be out on the Red Sox of the Dodgers, yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: the Yankees, but like he can't be like a Kansas
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: City royal, Yeah, like Otani over with the Angels. Yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So that's what I was going to bring up. Yeah,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: a ceiling, right, imagine if he was doing that for
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the Yankees of the Red Sox, Right, right, so maybe someday.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: But I love I love me, Smaron Judge. Yeah, there's
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: as much. Yeah, it's really kind of weird. He loves
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: great athletes. He just like it's just but they haven't
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: won the title yet. Usually you waited till the well
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: And this kind of feeds into how I felt about
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Sedano Chart. There are certain professional athletes where it's just
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: you're too big, Like it's unfair, you know, like you
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed. You know, like it's like okay, like
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you're just and I mean, you get it. In high school.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I bring up Kara Walters, who was in my high school,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was just she's six six in high school, there's you know,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: these little girls running around her. They just throw to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: her and she's just I know, and not every big
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: guy can hit like he can in the pros. You know, yeah, um,
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: they just too awkward. And he's got it all and
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he can steal bases, he can play. He's a good player.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: He's a good all around player. He's not he's not
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: just a home run. He's a good hitter and he's
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a good all around player. Yeah, it's too big though,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: you got too many kings, but that was the Dano.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, he's the greatest defenseman, Like he's the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: biggest defenseman of all time and everything that goes with that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's good. He's tough, for sure, but he's
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: also got an immense advantage over everybody else. I remember
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: when first I remember when they signed Chara originally and
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: I was on, you know, Fred likes to make fun.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: It's like weekend Ei. It was like Mark Sivard and
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: jar I think around the same time they signed them both,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: if I recall in, it was just like, really, is
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: n't like the six nine guys like one of the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: greatest Bruins ever. I mean, it's got to be scary
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to play. I mean I played against haw Haw Gil,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: who was who was no small small guy. He was
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: just saying it was the guy who was in the NHL.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's that's the guy that you're talking about. Yeah, you're big,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: You're big. He had no other skill other than you size.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: All due respect to how Gil, he's an NHL player,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: but I couldn't stay. He smoked me in Fall League
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: one time too, So sorry, how five Now you got
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: mad because you you hit I don't like five hundred
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is the a ticket outline? Let's go to Christian in
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: La on the phone. What's up? Hey, good morning you guys.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: How are you doing? Okay? Good? Good to talk with
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: you guys. I love the idea you guys are going
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: into the whole rebroadcasting this week. I get it. You're
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in a TV mood, in in a wondering mood. Like
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: I said, I work in holliways, all that stuff always
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: fascinates me. Yeah. Football, Um, are you guys actually as
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry starts to not following, while you guys actually
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: at the practice? Do you see the players only once
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: a week? On Monday? We were Yeah, we were there.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Mike and I were out at Monday's practice. Will you
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: guys go out to see the players? Do you do
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you put a focus on Oh yeah, we want to.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: We want to put our eyes on this guy so
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we can give information. Or do you try to like
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: put your eyes on as many different guys that you
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: cannot Do you focus on something specific? I try to
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: watch as much as I can. Yeah, I try to
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: see what catch am. I definitely have a kind of
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: curiosity of what the kind of personnel packages are and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: like I said on Tuesday, you can definitely tell there's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: a line between guys who are kind of with the
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: starting playing kind of group and then young guys who
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: were with the kind of working group. So it's it's
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: that and you know who kind of goes in when,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and you know, certain plays catch your eye. But I think,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: I think, I mean, that's kind of what we're getting
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: to at the beginning. Was just now going into the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: second practice. All right, this is what I missed. Now
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I really want to focus in more on, you know,
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a few handful of certain things to see if you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: can gather anything. But it's tough. You never know who's
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: not competitive, what they're doing. Yeah, you know, but we
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: watch what we you know, he's just asking what we're
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: looking at. And I agree with Mike. I think the
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: packages um and the groupings are much more important anything else.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: But I do try to focus specifically on any newcomers,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: whether it be a guy like DeVante Parker I was
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: watching on Monday, or the rookies, yeah, young guys that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: haven't really played yet. You know, you try to get
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: a feel for how they move and what what some
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: of the things they dogether like when you guys focus
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: on the running back when you guys focus on defense.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: I never how do you well give us well, no,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: like for T camp, which training camp starts, um, you know,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and like we can see every practice like for you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: two or three weeks. We we kind of I do
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: that sometimes, like I'll say, Okay, I'm gonna go focus
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: on this offensive defensive line drills, you know, and I'll
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: call out who I think just one a drill, you know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: while other guys might be watching the wide receivers, you know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: because it's it is, it's like a five ring circus
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: stirring training camp, and really wherever you look, there's something
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: to focus on. Yeah, I mean it's it's kind of
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: they'll be in different drills, and so sometimes it's hard
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: because do you want to watch the wide receivers going
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: against the cornerbacks or do you want to watch the
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: defensive lineman going against the offensive lineman. So you kind
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: of have to to pick your spots sometimes. But and
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: there's like Fred said, there's a lot going get in there. Yeah, okay.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: So it's the end of the season, we are headed
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: into our second game of the playoff. What would Max
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that have to have been in your guy's eyes, for
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: us to be there, Ah, thirty touchdowns, I think he's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: got to have um sixty five plus percentage completion. I
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: think he's got to have thirty touchdowns, ten interceptions, ten
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: interceptions about you know, like maybe a little bit more.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: It's okay, what does the defense do? Like, I think
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: we're just talking about back? I know, what how do
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you answer that question? No, I know, but I'm just
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: saying Max's part of it. Obviously. My my record for
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the Patriots right now is still eight nine. It's still
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: eight nine because I'm so unsure of the defense. You know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: so even with those stats, the record would be eight
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and nine. If the defense doesn't play well. Yeah, what
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: if the offense doesn't play well well, then everything gets
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: thrown out the window, you know, jish I mean, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: both sides of the ball aren't playing well, they're not
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: gonna they're not gonna win game. But no, what if
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the offense doesn't play well in the defense, does it
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: could be still eate nine? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, I mean,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think where you're trying to get at
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: is what kind of you know, performance you made out
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: of Mac Jones? What kind of progress could you get.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I need it. I just don't think it'll show up.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I know it's simple, it sounds simple, But I need
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: teams to stop saying that the Patriots are easy to defend. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: that's what I need. More of the Cleveland game where
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: it just seems like, man, they're rolling. Everything's kind of working. Yeah,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: well for you guys for that to happen, but teams
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to stay they're not easy to defend. Which which players are? Like,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: what's the po with the running game? Have to pick up? No,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it's Mac, Mac has to Mac has to get smarter.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: What's the X factor for you guys, Matt Jones, Mac Jones,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: it's max max improvement, his development, his understanding of what
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: he's looking at when he looks at a defense, his
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: pre snap reads, all that stuff. The better he gets
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: at that, the heart of the Patriots are going to
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: be to defend, and the more they'll be able to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: open up the playbook for him. You know, I think
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Matt can throw us to victory more than the the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: the pieces around him have to have to raise their game.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Well obviously, Yeah, that's gonna have to happen to All
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: these free agents are gonna have to have that second
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: year free agent jump. But really it doesn't matter if
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Mac hasn't improved, and you know, and I think he will.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm excited about that. I made the combat
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. When you keep you know, you keep focusing
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: on the people said that they were easy to defend.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I think they're easy to defend because their quarterback is right,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: it's a rookie. Yeah, not necessarily. I just think physically
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: he's limited. There are there are certain things that he
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: does well. I think it took about half a season
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: for the lomest of the league to figure that out.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: According to Mikearty, who talked to an AFC head office person,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: he's a lot more athletic than people give him credit
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: for it. Right. And the response to that was someone
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: on Twitter snarkly writing that he ran a four two
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: one in the office. Just crack me up, guys. Which
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: free agent do you guys? If they don't make a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: quantum leap in this this second year of their contract,
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: which free agent do we? Oh? I think a galore
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in in Smith, you know, Mills go, yeah, yeah? Those
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: are those are all good, all good examples. I mean,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: like I said, I think you feel a little bit
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: heavy on wide receiver, so maybe I think it depends
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: on on Thornton. And but those guys got injury issues too.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, Parker really stay healthy. But that's a great
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: one with with Al and Thornton. If Thornton has a
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: promising rookie year, then absolutely yeah, you could see that happening.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: He only asked a two year contract anyway. It's gonna
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: be a free agent a year anyway, right, you don't
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: be signed. Part of me just wants to burn that
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: off and just let it all kind of play out
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: instead of feeling like, oh, we're all set at wide
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: receiver now. Because so let me ask you for it.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the christ, appreciate it. Let me ask you
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a question. If Thornton does get a lot of opportunities
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: this year, what does that mean about agalore Into or
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: other receivers. Well, it means something bad. It means something
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: bad for somebody. I don't know who it is, because
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Mike and I talked on Tuesday that we kind of
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: both feel that there's a chance that Aglare might get
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: more opportunities in the slot. I mean that's where he
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: means something bad for Jacoby Myers, right right, I mean,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that's I think it's a good way to tie it
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: together and again or Agala, That's that's really where he's
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: been most productive in his career. You know that Raider
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: season was a little bit outlier, but I think Thornton
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: if I just think it's a really great thing. If
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Thornton is able to come in and actually contribute this year,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: it's a young guy that you can build with and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: three affordable years left on it is that better? Is
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Thornton breaking through and being able to be a contributor
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: this year, better than he just can't break through because
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: everyone's doing well. Yeah, Um, I would say yeah. I
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: would say yeah, because is gone and users yere Aglare
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: and Myers will be unrestricted free agents. DeVante Parker will
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: have a year left on his D. But Mike is
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: right and to say that he should you know, rent
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: and not buy, you know, at this stage of his career.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: So if you have Thornton showing promise and being a
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: regular contract, I'm not just talking about Well, someone had
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: to catch it, you know, Ken Brell Tompkins was the
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: leading receiver, like in thirteen, someone had to catch the passage. No,
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: he's so good. We can't keep him off the field.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: We got to get him playing time. That would be
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: better than we can't get him on the field because
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: everybody else's playing, especially because if he's on the field,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: he's and he's doing well. He's bringing speed, he's got
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: some length on the outside. I mean, those are things
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that they need. Is it's Mac, you know, got just
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: a sense for him downfield, and he's able to you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: put it up there and know where he's going to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: pull away. So, I mean, I think it just speaks
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to the general theme of the team. The more rookies,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: second even third year guys at this point cha that
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: can emerge and play well, the better. And I don't
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: really care about, you know, whether or not it works
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: out for Devon Godchaw. What what better they get the
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: younger and if they cut Devin mccordy, i'd feel love younger.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Why do you always pick the only one? I don't
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: really have a huge problem. That's why That's why I
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: picked him. Paul, what's up, William? What's up? Fred? How
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: are you doing good? Hey? Um? I had a question
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: for you Mike and Paul of course, Um okay, So
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: I heard Greg Bernard podcast basically, so he has predicting
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: that the Patriots will be about eight and nine were nine,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: So wouldn't that wouldn't that be an l forwards? Bill? Basically?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? And it's like, what does
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Robert Kraft do? Did I say say? Like everything just
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it was just a basically it just went went left. Basically,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, nothing went right? The offense
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: was that, the coaching and all that. So what do
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you what do you think Robert Kraft? Well, where do
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you I think we should go next to the nick?
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I mean following year or whatever. Yeah, well that's the thing.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: You know, again, it's tough to answer without putting it
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: in content. But let's say they're eight and nine and
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: it's evident they've got talent. I nine, I don't I
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: think that's evidence that nothing went right. Right. I'll tell
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: you that. If they go eight to nine and it's
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: evident that they have talent, but they're just not listening,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: like Bill's lost the locker room, that's worse than you know,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: they still don't have now if what they need to
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: get over the hump, Like if you think it's like
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: a you know, eight to nine and man, I don't
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: know how that that team won eight games, right, they overachieved,
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: like exactly, they stole two games down the street. That's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: that's a concern. But if you're looking at it is like, yeah,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: they were in every game they won eight. They will
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: you know, they're coming on guy like making some catches.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: You know, maybe a Kevin Harris is you know, integrating
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: in the backfield. Next Bull Strange looks like a keeper
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: at left guard. Yeah, you know, we got more money
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: to spend next year, we're building. The quarterback made some progress. Right,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: It's just the context is important because you could you
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: could you could lay out what happened last year in
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: terms of, all right, they're gonna finish with this schedule,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: they're gonna make the play they're back in the playoffs
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback, and they're gonna lose the Buffalo
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: the first rue. How would you feel And at this
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: point last year you would have said, Okay, let's still
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: sign up. And yet how it happened and they beat
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: You're kind of like, you know, the beginning of the
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: year and the end of the year, they were not
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: a very good football team. In the middle they dominated. Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I just want to be better than last year that
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: saw maybe take another step for you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: And that's what's hard. It's like, but is better, but
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the records worse. I don't make the playoffs, but they
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: but you feel better. That's the same place. And if
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: you if you, if you're just like writing down player
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: for player and you're objectively looking at it, they're probably
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: not as good as they were last year on paper.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't want I just don't want the team
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: to think and the Pagers are just a push over
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: all they just eat fin and all that, you know
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean, right, Yeah, that's a bad Let them know,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: like YO were here right right exact, So William, they
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: could be what you just said they are and have
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: a worse record than last year. Yeah, I think you
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's definitely And it's kind of
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: how I felt like throw out you know, well Fred
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: accurately brought up you know, Hammer and all those crappy
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: injured teams in the kind of the middle. But I
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: think that like little period between Dallas and Tampa Bay,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: those games, I came out of those games feeling like
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: this is a competitive game that are gonna be in everything. Yes,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: might feel good about it, you know, and then obviously
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: the season went as it did. I felt I felt
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: like that in the Tampa game. I didn't really feel
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that against the Dallas stop. And I know the Dallas
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: game went over time and obviously the Patriots more like
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: I will say, I will use the words should have.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: The Patriots should have won the Dallas game. You know
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: that you got them third and twenty five well out
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: of field goal range. You got to find a way
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and you couldn't. And it was unfortunate. But I think
• 47:29
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• 47:33
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  Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this or the game of football.
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  Speaker 1: Sure it was when I was an eighth eighth grader
• 57:23
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• 57:32
  Speaker 1: to play football. I don't know if you're at Dexter School,
• 57:33
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  Speaker 1: George downpat was just a wonderful human being, and I
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  Speaker 1: had also why don't we do this? Why don't we
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: do that? And he finally said, look, you're so smart.
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• 57:46
  Speaker 1: that's where it started. Did you envision at that point
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: in time, was that this is this is a real love? Oh?
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: I knew, Hey, this is this is a lot of fun.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: And it grew from there. Okay, so you got we're
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: really into it. And then you know, you do your
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: your high school and you meet another guy who's really
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: into it. How long did it take you to realize?
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was pretty similar in his thoughts, Um, I'm
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: probably about a minute. Uh so, of course we have.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: We met fall of nineteen seventy. We were both hi
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: seniors at Phillips Academy in Andover. We uh played on
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: an undefeated football team and we had a great time
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: together and it was It's basically started a fifty plush
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: year conversation about football. That's part of the latest episode
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  Speaker 1: of Pats from the Past. Former Patriots research director Ernie
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: Adams was the guest of No Socks Mattie Smith and
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  Speaker 1: half century h of his career in the National Football League.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I would say it's probably the most extensive
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: interview Ernie Adams has ever done. Yeah, I mean, I'm
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: not outside of the job either, Pink stripes. Yeah, and
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I will tell you announcement. It could still be going
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: if if we wanted to. I mean, he was having
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: a good time and telling stories, and so he talks
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: about as you know, how his passion for football began.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: We you know, we just heard that what made what
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: he thought made the mid nineteen seventies Patriots so great?
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: That was that was a really good team. Uh and
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: what was his Patriots favorite Patriots team of all the ones?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: So I did a little write up that's up down
• 59:31
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• 59:34
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• 59:38
  Speaker 1: seventy six and the seventy eight Patriots liked. Paul I
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: think asked him which of the two would you choose?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: And he wanted seventy eight, which you agreed with. You
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: agreed with the seventy six team went farther. That was
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• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Oh well, he writes these write ups. I always think
• 59:55
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• 59:58
  Speaker 1: there's a lot. Both of those teams went the same.
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• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:13
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• 1:00:17
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• 1:00:20
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• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: there you go extensive interviews with them, and from now on,
• 1:00:34
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• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's great. You know, they finally have wished his arm.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: He didn't want to do it. I'm enjoying it. And
• 1:00:41
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• 1:00:47
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• 1:00:56
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• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: part of. What about Fred talking about plus ups? What
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: about um? Access to player commentaries from games from the season.
• 1:01:07
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• 1:01:09
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• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of like we did with Butler. But
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: that's something like that little extra yea access to the
• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: So that's something we threw out in the first segment.
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• 1:01:46
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• 1:02:21
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  Speaker 1: other day and he mentioned how stacked the Patriots beat is.
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• 1:02:32
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• 1:02:42
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• 1:02:45
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• 1:02:47
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• 1:02:50
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• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one that kind of runs the beat. Now, um, yeah,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't. He didn't include us last year though, when
• 1:02:57
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• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: we had been included in. So I don't know, I
• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I were talking about though, well, you know how like
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: a president, you know, picks their vice president based on
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: who can we bring in to you know, get the
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: ex vote. You know, yeah, I brought in Mike to
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: get the you know, the blogger the blogger vote. Yeah,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: you got some blogger rep. But but Paul and I
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: were talking about it hasn't worked. Just just you know,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: they all kind of sit together, and I, you know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I do practices with those guys. I get along with everybody.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: But I just think that there's an element of group
• 1:03:30
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• 1:03:32
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• 1:03:34
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• 1:03:36
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• 1:03:39
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• 1:03:41
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• 1:03:44
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• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: I just like having that separate perspective. And then I
• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: all right, did I miss anything? What did they all see?
• 1:03:54
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• 1:03:56
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• 1:03:58
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• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that stood out, And you know, I just think it
• 1:04:04
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• 1:04:07
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• 1:04:09
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• 1:04:13
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  Speaker 1: really like any of them. And that's what because I don't.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: I have no problems with very virtually any of them
• 1:04:19
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• 1:04:22
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• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: by myself. In general, I sit with Mike. I'll sit
• 1:04:28
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• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:34
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• 1:04:36
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• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: the same thing every every practice. He comes up to
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: me after practice. Yeah what I miss? What I miss?
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: You know, like and you know that kind of stuff.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: It's always good to have some communication. But Mike is right,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: like when you read ten different beat writers and they
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: all have the same exact impression, that's not genuine. Yeah,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And Mike, even during you know, when we used to
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: have locker room AX, he would even do the same
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: strategy there, you know, wherever the scrum was, he goes
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: somewhere else and talk to the guy that no one's
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: talking to. Yeah, you know, now part of that the
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: locker room thing is what you're doing. Yeah, Like you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: have a luxury if you're not necessarily beholden to the
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: story of the day, right, So you don't need that. Yeah,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you know, if you know everybody's talking to one guy
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: just because that's the guy that's available, then you don't
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: need that. But if like I always use the Ted
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Johnson example when Ted Johnson would a wall when he
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: found out that he was going to be inactive for
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the opener, that's the story, Like, you need to talk
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: to Ted john Like, you can't be wandering around talking
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: to a practice squad guy and not get ted Johnson's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: reaction that Nay, that was the story of that day.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: So sometimes if you're the beat guy, you can't afford
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: to miss the story. True, but the logic, I mean,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: I would wholeheartedly disagree with that. The the beat is
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: stacked by the way, like I mean, Fred will tell you,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: like the caliber of guys that you know used to
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: be back in the day, I mean Will McDonough and
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: ron Borges, Kevin Mannox, Yeah, you know Ronnie Hobson, Like
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: whatever you think of Borges, he was a good writer.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: He was a good reporter too, Like yeah, you know
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: did he did he have biases? Yeah, just like they
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: do now, only they're different, right, Borgeses were negative. These
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: guys are positive, right, But there's definitely a bias. Yeah,
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: there's probably only two people that I seek out to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: actually read what they write about the Patriots, And I
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: think he's going to get the same two that I do. Yeah, No,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: probably different, it's going to be different, But I Bedardenalos
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: are those are the two I expect? Yeah? Really it
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: went over to ye see for me, No, for me,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: it's recent current. Oh yeah, but current is not really
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: like the beak. No, but Current doesn't have to do that.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Get my facts from Mike, Yeah, and then my opinion
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: from time. I would agree with you, Fred. I think
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that's a good way to go about it. If you
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: if you don't have time to read what everybody's writing. Yeah,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: those are two guys to go to. I'm not interested
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: in is like, uh, you know who was at the
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: three technique and you know, playing the inside shade like
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: I I mean, I leave that to scouts. Yeah, and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: those those two guys, that's what that's where they are.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: They think they're scouts. Yeah, I like it. That's fine,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: that's good. There's the audience though everybody has the room. Absolutely.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't never make fun of anybody that wants to
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: know more about football and thinks those guys do. Yeah,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, and I didn't mean that in any I
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: don't even count Reese as I mean, I just think
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: he is just like kind of the stable runner of
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: the ship. That of course he's telling you what's happening.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: You have to read them. You have to read them.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not I didn't mean to
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: imply that Oh, I don't read. I mean that just
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: is like a given to me. And the same thing
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: with Current though, but I think I agree with how
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: you said it. Current's a little bit on the outside
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: and he'll come out you know some I what I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: like about Current. You never know what you're gonna get. Like,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: I think he has really strong opinions one way or
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: the other. Something sometimes I do I want to know
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: gives the team, not the play. I can see the
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: play myself, he like. I can watch the games on
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Sundays and I can watch the practices at training GAMP,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm comfortable that what I see and what I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: think I'm comfortable with. I don't need someone else's opinion
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: on again. Yeah, who won the one on one battle
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: between you know and Andrews? Right right? I can watch
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: that myself. Yeah. But what I don't know sometimes is
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: when Tom Carmon will say that this was something I
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: read from him during the course of the winter that
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: one of the things about the defensive coordinator was that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Steve does a lot of the defensive coordinator Steve Belichick
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: does a lot of the defensive coordinator duties, but wasn't
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: as comfortable speaking in front of the team to deliver
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: the game plan, and that's what Gerard Mayo would come
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: in because he was more comfortable in that environment. I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: can't I don't know that. I can't see that, right,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I can't experience that he's giving me something. Yeah, well,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I mean the other the other guys have given you,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: like you know, who's the third third stringthree technique? Yeah,
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: that's not reporting. Yeah yeah, well, Uman, Mike, I'm trying
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: to remember who said it. One of the linebackers said it, though,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: might have been McMillan talking about Steven Gerard and the
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: way he describes Steve was the guy in the back
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: of the room who would chime in with things. So
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: I mean it kind of that's not that's not And
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: I also think it makes you know, it just makes
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: sense with who Garrod Mayo was. He was captain of
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: a defense, he's a linebacker, he's called plays. I mean,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I think that that goes a long way towards you know, accountability. So, um,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: you know, interesting, it is interesting. Um. Joe has a question.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: He says, of all the drafts the Patriots have had,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: which draft before the season started were you were not
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: a fan of? Is it this season's draft. Who's asking
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: this question? Um, this is the same person who um
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: want to you know, said that it was a stack beat,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: right according to Andrew draft to Yeah right, yeah, that's
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: exactly what I was thinking. Is that the one that's yeah,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: Harry and yeah Harry. Yeah, Well, you know, does it
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: count with Pete Carroll? Sure? Because I remember at the
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: time like that was a bad draft. It was like
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: Chris Christy, you know, I like, you know, that was Belichick.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: That was Why do I keep thinking he was? That
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: was Carroll Belichick's first draft pick. It was like twenty seventeen,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: they only took like four guys total, like in the
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: whole draft. That was one of those two. Yeah it
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: was Tony Was it in Tonio Garcia? Yeah? Yeah, maybe
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: wise maybe it was in that group. Perhaps I Forgetio
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: was a way we could look these through my computer
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: down for this, But yeah, there's definitely been Uh. I mean,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: I think last year's twenty twenty with with mac that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: was like boom boom one two, that's gonna that's gonna
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: be okay. It looks like, you know, three guys that
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: out of the top four picks that contributed significantly. Yeah,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping things that happened this year make two years
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: ago a better draft, you know. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: think that's on the table. That's a big part of it.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: You know our Za or Keen are they gonna are
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: they gonna do anything? And then Ronnie Perkins, Perkins, well
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: those guys this year, those guys are drafted last year?
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: Oh where they Yeah? Yeah, but they're all the same
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: thick I think. I mean the twenty nineteen drafts kind
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: of gone. But I mean at twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I think all those guys, you know, any of those
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: that twenty was the one that I think Fred's looking at. Dougga,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: maybe Cher is a better player than you're shown so far.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe you could look at that differently. But yeah, I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: mean I don't know. I think he's a think that
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: that looks like a shaky draft to me. Dougger does it?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: Does you know? It has been solid? I like Dugger.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I like Dugger, I think more than most, which is
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: very rare for me to be higher on a Patriots
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: player than a lot of our listeners. Yeah, I just
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: love to see him hit the next level this year.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: And I mean I think he started to find the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: ball last year a little bit more. It seemed like
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: he'd be starting to get a little more comfortable in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: coverage and stuff. What's the ceiling? How much you know?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: Is he a true I think you can work all
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: all the way up to the manager of the department,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: and then wasn't paying attention. That's when the big bucks
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: start rolling in. Um, we were talking about that reporter
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco that had the beef with the player
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: UM Grant Sean and Petaluma writes in that I've seen it.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: It's in the Bay Area on a roadside. He says,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: just an FYI, everyone hates Grant Cone. Oh really that's
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: the guy. Players, other reporters, fans, everyone see. That's why
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: this is where I was getting. Yeah, he's a smug, smarmie,
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: self serving little tool. His daddy was a Niners beat
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: guy who got him the job. His daddy, kin Law
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: was only expressing what everyone feels about the guy. It's
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: a surprise something like that hasn't happened sooner with him.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Who Yeah, I don't know what the details are, but
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: I you hears something like that and immediately seems like
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: it's all one side you all. I always think to myself,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: that's not what it is. There's another side to that
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: story that we don't know, and that's probably part of it.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: Had there been other beat writer, I mean, I'm assuming
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: maybe Felger walked that line a little bit of guys
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: that maybe we'll get unto the player's skin a little bit.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like there's anybody really on the beat
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: right now. When Felger was a beat writer, he was
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: he was, he was on board, like he was totally different. Yeah,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: he was totally different. He played the game, right, he
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: played the game. Oh yeah, he was Like I said,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: I was at the fortieth anniversary for Robert Kraft Admira
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: and at my table was Felger and Scott Pioli. He
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: was so in the pocket of the of the team.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: How many other beat writers were there, I don't remember
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: any Yeah, there's a different reason why he was there,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: but I'll save that for anyway. But there's nobody like
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: that right now. I feel like that, like, oh they
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: hate him, like questions. I mean, I think I think
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: there's people they don't like. Yeah, I mean I think
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: you know people that they don't I'm sure Tommy probably has.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, but I think he does it in a
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: way that is I gotta ask this. Yeah, yeah, he's
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: he's good about it. But I mean those guys tended
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: to put there are guys that could under bill skin,
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: to be sure, and there's one that you would never expect. Yep, yep,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: all right, five five five hundred. Web radio is the email.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Sean and Vancouver. Who's been holding on? Hey,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Sean hero Paul observation. I saw that you said that
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: time Montgomery spent time I practiced as a receiver. Do
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: you see him trying or you see the Patriots trying
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: them a spot at all in the slot? Um? Yeah,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. I mean, yeah, I
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: mean Canny Canny operate out of the slot. Yeah, he's
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: not a not a huge guy, and he's probably quicker
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: than fast. Yeah. I mean, I think I wouldn't rule
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: it out. But I just think that people are searching
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: for like the unicorn again, like they're they're searching searching
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: for Edelman Ker, you know, And I don't know, I
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: just doubt. I mean, I don't know. I feel like
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I think the odds are against that. I feel like
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: he's just kind of on the injury bench, and then
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: like if James White can't go with Jacobe Meyers or like,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: depending on which position gets dinged, that's where they'll kind
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: of move him to. I kind of look at him
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: as the Brandon Bolden replacement, and I think that maybe
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: he has a higher end on offense, despite the fact
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: that I thought Bolden had a pretty solid year last
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: year filling in. I think they look at him as
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: a guy who will be a core for special teamer, perfect,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: who can play out of the backfield, who can catch
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: passes and do different things. Yea, if we're in a pinch,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: we can put him here for you know, we could
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: boom over there if we need to. You know, I'm
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: not going to dismiss his chances to be able to
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: play in the slot. I think he could do that.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: I think that's when we when we saw him the
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: other day, he was kind of running from the slot
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: more more often than not. Right, I thought you meant
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: his media availability, Yeah, oh yeah. Mike wasn't high on
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: the Wison. I always saw him as someone who's like
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: good at a lot of things, but never great at anything.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: But last year he really built himself into that white role.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: You know, eventually was like shake key to start, but
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: then he was pretty decent, And I would agree that's
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: that's that's how I think of Time Montgomery. I think
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: because he can play running back in wide receiver, I
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: think people think more of him, like, oh, there's this
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: eighty something guy who lines up in the backfield. But
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: but you know, because he wasn't a good enough wide receiver, yeah,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: and they moved into running backer. He's not a good
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: enough running back to be a full time running back,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: but because he can do him bold, he's carved out
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: a nice career for himself, all right, sort of a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Swiss army neck. Okay, yeah, thanks, Sean, appreciate the call.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina. Hey, Todd, let me start by
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: throwing Marine Corps under the bus. I called it in
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: yesterday to the show, and he goes, PFW and Progress,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Oh and it was an even PU Patriots unfiltered Rook
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: show though yeah he never it was Rook show. I
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: just slipped up and said unfiltered, right, Yeah, Matt's never mad.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Progress doesn't even know what it is anyway, Guys, I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: was talking to a friend and they seem to think
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: that maybe part of the defensive drop off last year
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: was just fatigue because the accompanying pieces to Barmore and
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: Jude arm just got worn out and we did they didn't,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: you know, they weren't able to hold their position, so
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Jude On and uh Barnmore started to fall off towards
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: end of the year. I don't know. I thought it
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: was just they played tougher teams, the schedules got harder.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: But what's what's your take on that? Yeah, I don't
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: think that like did J. C. Jackson get tired like Mills?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think it's what, did you
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: play a better schedule? Yeah, But I also think it's
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: bigger than that. It was bigger than I think they
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: they played below their talent level. I think they you know,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: it was bad, but I don't think it needed to
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: be as bad as it was. And I think it's
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: been like that for a couple of years now, and
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: that's you know, if you if you do it again
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: this year, you're the same kind of thing. It's schedule
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: is gonna be defined by that final stretch run and
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: you know, they got to find a way to get
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: back to that all right, you got some leeway in September,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: figure out what you do, lock in on it in
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: October and November and then and then really start to
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: execute it in December, and we just we just haven't
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: seen it. Now with the extra game, it's even you know,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: more exacerbated by the poor play down the end, and
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: you know, with teams pushing for playoff positions and all that,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: it's it's not gonna fly this. Do you think anybody
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: mailed it in? Like my friend I guess I kind
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: of agree with them said that J. C. Jackson for
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: the last couple of games was thinking out. I think
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: he mailed it in in the second half of the
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, that's it. I don't think he mailed
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: it in down the stretch. I mean there was a
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: game I forget which one where he missed that tackle
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: around the run around below. It was Buffalo in the
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: second half, right, yeah, yeah, So you know, those things
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: tend to like take on a life of their own. Typically,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: put you take that one play and then you draw
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: a picture of that's what he was, you know, and
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: you get out on the team anymore. That's part of
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: the equation too, Right, If he had resigned because Devin
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: mccordy had a couple of those plays in the same
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: second half. But as Mike likes to point out, every
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: thirty seconds, he resigned here, So no one's saying that
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: he took the took the second half. All right, thanks
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: h David and Maine writes in first they have a
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: bone to pick with Mike, It's obvious that there are
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: times you disagree with Paul. Why not me? What? Why
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: don't anybody have a bone to pick? There's plenty of people. Um,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: it's time you disagree with Paul, but you don't dive
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: into an argument with Paul's echo chamber. Eric off the show. Now,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: this is the perfect opportunity to step up to the
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: wide challenge and fight the good fight. There are times
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: even Fred concedes. Now, so question, where do the three
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: of you disagree the most on the Patriots for this year?
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Can they over come Belichick's drafting Hubris? Can Mac become
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: a true Pro Bowl quarterback? Where do we disagree the most?
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I think there's hope Paul doesn't well, I mean, I
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: think I would just say I think Paul's bigger concern
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: is the offense, and our bigger concern is the defense. Oh,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: I'm equally concerned about both. Oh okay, y see, I'm not.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think we have much to disagree on. I
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: hate to let the guy down. I think we want
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: agree on a lot. And I'll tell you one thing
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: for me, monkeys fight. I'll tell you another thing. I
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: can count on one hand the amount of things Eric
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: ever said that I agree with. So to have him
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: be my echo chamber, I don't think so. I wonder
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: if Verick's listening. No, he didn't listen when he was here.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: It's true, Yeah, he's probably like I'm serious, like like
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: he is so happy right now to be free of this.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: Did Mike and I ever tell you the story about
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: the weekend when we signed Cam Newton? It was like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: in late June, Yeah, that you called me. You and
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: Matt called me on like a at our Sunday. I think, yeah,
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: and you told me, you know, get ready this is
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: happening and blah blah blah blah. Kim talking about it
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: with Mike on Monday. You think Eric knows, wasn't He
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: had vacation that week and we were like, we were off, like,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: what's what's the odds that he has had no idea. Well,
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I do still watch the news that evidently, fortunately for
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: the Patriots that made it on the news. So he
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: probably follows ten times the amount of people on Twitter
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: that I do, but none of them are the people
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: that would get you the Patriots right right, Nope. If
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: you want to know, like, you know a new restaurant
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: that opened up in Madrid, he just got like, I
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: think Mike has concerns about the offense in the coaching scenario.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: My concerns are probably bigger than Mike's. But I don't
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: think that he thinks it's a nothing burger and I
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: think it's huge. I think I think it's bigger than
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Mike thinks. Yeah, we're not going to fight about that. No, No,
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: it is no bigger than you think. I'm like, that's
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: not anything to really fight up. We're both on the um,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: you know, concerned with it. I think mac Jones is
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: probably something down the road that we could argue about.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: But but you're always surprised that I'm not like all in.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think we're that far apart right now on
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: most things. Yeah, and the fact that Fred, like you said,
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: even Fred sort of relents now, relents about what like,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: you don't argue with me quite as specificiously about right now.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: It's like because you're right right, right like, And I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: know people don't like that because you just want to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: always think they have a chance to win the super Bowl.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody in this room right now thinks
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: they have a chance to win the super Bowl. Back
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: when Brady was here, we argued a lot because I
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: thought the Patriots are pretty good, right, you know, it
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: always that Trump card to go down at the end,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: to move on. I couldn't wait to get to this
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: point where it's I thought Brady was a good quarterback,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: you know, right. For some reason, Mike couldn't wait to
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: get rid of him. That's a great point. Eric thought
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: the window closed in twenty fifteen, fifteen. I think it
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: was before that. Really, Uh, Jake from that's what happens
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: when he gives an opinion, right, and that's why he
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't give a lot. Nope, Jake from Bendigo, Australia, he's
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: got a bone to pick with me. Everyone gets drunk
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: holiday in Australia because it's the best drinking culture in
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: the world. Also, every second animal could kill you. So
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: what's what's not enticing about that, I said, I had
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: no interest to vacationing in Australia. Yeah, it kind of
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: makes my point. Oh did you happen to see the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: guy that wrote in an ASPFW He was he wanted
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: us to not talk as much about the coaching thing,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: but at the bottom he said, he's from Napa Valley
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: and nobody's absolutely nobody sniffed the cort right. Eric went
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: on a whole big rant about how they do actually
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: sniff the court before he left here. Yeah, yeah, and
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: that's what the guy from Napa Valley said. I mean,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: I know it's an obscure, you know, wine area. I'm
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: I'm not denying that people sniff the court. They do.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that experts say it means nothing
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: like occasionally you'll be able to smell like if a
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: wine went totally bad, because you can smell that, But like,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: you know, like, what did it smells like wine to me?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What was that? Sounds like a red probably
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: or a Two football questions, One, do you think we
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: will get the throwbacks this year? Yes? I do think
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: we'll get that. I hope so. And Two does anyone
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: on here have a crack at fantasy football. I'm thinking
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: of giving it a crack this year. Any tips Like
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I don't like fantasy Matt, you do it, Matt, I
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: suck at it, But you have like four teams going
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: and I suck at it. Okay. I used to play
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: fantasy a lot, and I had a partner who was
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: way into it and would want to have conversations about it.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: And I just found it too. I like just rooting
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: for the Patriots and watching one team and knowing, like
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: not having a like, Oh, I got Seattle and I
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: got to figure out at eleven o'clock how many points
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: this guy scored. It's the most accurate about ever anybody
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: ever made. I don't know who made it first. But
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: nobody cares about your fantasy football team. No one cares
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: about your NCAA brackets. No one cares about your fantasy football, right.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, can it be fun when it's in the
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: playoffs and you're coming down and you've got a little
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: bit of a lead or a little bit of a margin,
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: and there's one random player you're watching Monday night football
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: to see if that guy delivers, Like that could be fun.
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: That could be fun. But I just found that the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: tonnage of trying to follow it every Sunday and all
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: the games, and how are all my guys doing it?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: It's a thing Mike and I agree on. That's exactly
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: why I don't. But you don't have to just want
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: I just want to watch the games. I don't want to.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: You can set it and forget it, I know, but
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to watch the
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: games with the thought that my team scored a touchdown,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: but right guy didn't score right. And that's why I
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: never really got into it. Like if I had Ceedee
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: Lamb and you know, against last year and then he
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: scored that touchdown, like I would want to be like, well,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: at least I got six points. The one year I
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: did it, I did exactly what you're talking about, Fred,
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: I said it, and forget it. I mean it add
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: weeks that I didn't even have quarterback active, just auto drafted.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: But by the time that's respectful the rest of the league,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like I didn't like it, wasn't that disrespectful.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 1: I lost one game the whole year and I won
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: the championship, proving didn't even look at it. How it's
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: one thousand percent luck based. Yeah, all I did was
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: picked all my favorite guys. I picked Curtis Martin went
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: in like two thousand and four, but just because I
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: like him, he was like passed his prime. He ended
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: up leading the league and rushing. I had Michael Vick
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: like I just it was silly. It was a silly,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 1: silly like fantasy team. I never made one transaction the
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: entire year. In the championship game, I was one. I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: had one few one too few players to have a
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: full active roster. I just let it go. Yeah, and
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: I won, And then there's like people, I'll never do
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: it again. Do you really think the experts are experts
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: in fantasy fo Andrew Berry like, I don't even field yates.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, yeah, I think more. You know about
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: who's injured, who's in, who's out, who's playing well, what
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: the matchups are, what good defense is good, you know
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: what they I think there are people that are like
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: really really good at that. I think so too, even
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: though I don't do it um Like I would say
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: the equivalent of me winning that, you know and just
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: saying it's entirely based on luck is like you know,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: someone who bets games and says, I like the Ravens
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: uniforms better than the Steelers. I'm gonna bet the Ravens
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: and they win. You can win doing that like it's
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: but it's luck. And I think that's what I did
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: in Fantasy that year, Like is that what broke you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: of it? And you're like this, No, I just like
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: they they they needed one more guy to fill out
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: the league. It was a Patriots league, and we did
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: it all together. And I just did it just to
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: be a team player. And I mocked everybody, as you
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: know I can alan right. Oh. The third thing that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: no one cares about, Fred Ash your golf game. No
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: one cares that you're Pard the ninth that Leo J. Martin, Right,
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: no one cares. It's like that guy, the TV guy,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: you know, people growing up to be their parents. Yeah,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: nobody cares. There's nobody here made the movie right, right,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? It came down seventeen the fairway.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: I just really yea hear people talk like that. Oh yeah,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: and I golf all the time, and I tell you
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: that I went golfing. I never like to hear about
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: how your body felt, like, oh man, I was dying,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: you know, how well or bad you play. Because I
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: had to play a team. I don't usually play a team,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: but I did a week ago Monday. This is a difference.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Fat bash Alan says, glad to see in his absence
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: that Eric is still contributing as much to the show
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: as he did when Andy was there. Speaking of Big Head,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: he seems to be really high on Jack Jones. Just
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: curious if you have any favorite new additions to watch
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: to play a significant role on this team this season.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Not yet. I mean, I think he's an easy one
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: if you watch that practice, just because he was involved
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: and look quick, look look scrappy. I thought, if you
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: had to say right now, other than Cole Strange, could
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: you pick a guy that you think will play a
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: significant role this year. I want to believe Marcus Jones
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: will at least on, you know, as a returner and
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: kind of a piece in the in the secondary somewhere.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: But after that, yeah, I don't know if you're gonna
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: get anybody that plays a significant role. I mean, Cole Strange,
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: I think we'll start that will be obviously significant, but
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: it's hard to see Jack Jones and Marcus Jones both
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: unless they both play out of their minds, you know,
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: dethroning Jalen Mills and Malcolm Terrence Mitchell and Jonathan Jones
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: and Miles Bryant. And it's hard to see them do that.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: But I think strange. You're right left Garden as a returner.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I think that's the minimum. That's the minimum I'm hoping for.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Matt writes in and by the way, Andy
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: sat with Mike and I and that's why we're all
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: high on Jack Jones. Sort of full circle. When you
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: sit together, you'll like minded, right, Yeah, Matt says he's
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: writing in from Chicago. Then a long time Patriots fan,
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: but a new listener to the podcast. We'll welcome. I
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: believe Rashad brought up a similar point on Tuesday's podcast.
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: But do you think at the Patriots defense will carve
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: out a niche for themselves this season, such as having
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: a great run stopping game or a third down defense
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: for example, Like, well, they kind of have something they're
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: known for on defense. I mean, I think Paul said
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: it and I agree, Sorry to do that again, um,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: but that they were good on third down last year.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: I think it was one of the one of the
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: only areas especially third and longs. I think they're one
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: of the best teams in the league, but it's hard
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: to see it on paper right now. I can't. I
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: can't sit here and give you a good reason why
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: they run defense is going to suddenly, you know, turn
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 1: around this year, or you know that their pass rush
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: is suddenly gonna be better. I mean, Barmore and jude
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: On feel great. Hopefully they're able to do it and
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: you can get some complimentary guys that open up stuff
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: for them a little bit. But after that, I don't know.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: That's the safety group. How do they deploy them? Is that,
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: you know, something that gives them a new edge, Like
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: that's the only kind of thing I could make it. Well,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: they could create some turnovers turnover team, but like, but
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: getting pressure of force and bad throws. You know, he
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: didn't you didn't really do that. I mean it seemed
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: like Josh Allen had you on your heels and was
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: just dealing. You know, how do you get him uncomfortable?
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: How do you get him into mistakes? That's you know
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: what you just you didn't see any of it down
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: down the stretch last year. Also, do you think that
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: trading down and letting Trent McDuffie go to Kansas City
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: will come back to bite the Patriots. I know they
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: don't play Kansas City this year, but he seemed like
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: a guy who could have an immediate impact at corner.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I thought he was fine.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: I like, he just seemed like he matched up with
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: their kind of guy at a position and need. But
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, do you
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: feel like, oh, he's a thousand times better than Marcus
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: Jones or Jacksons. I don't know. They all seem kind
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: of in the same little family a guys. Any of
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: them could be, you know, maybe Marcus more than Jack.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: But like, but like I said on the Draft Show,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I wasn't pounding my fit like we gotta get Trent McDuffie.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: He's gonna change it. Like if we had Trent McDuffie
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: right now, I probably feel exactly the same about the defense.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: What if you had Trent McDuffie and Cole Strange same.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, fine, you don't think Trent McDuffie
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: is better than the Joneses. I mean, maybe maybe potentially
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: a little. I just can't see a five eight guy
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: really covering out a niche as a regular cover corner
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. Maybe I'm a sizeist. Yeah, does that
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: make me a size It seems like he's in between,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: you know, like, so is he at five of whatever
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: he is? Five eleven? Is he you know, he's not
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: that big for outside? So is he going to be
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: an outside guy or is he gonna get stuck in
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: the slot? And then if you're in the slot and
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: you're five eleven versus five eight, I don't know. I mean,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see what kind of player he is.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's a starting outside corner, and maybe he looks great,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: and damn that's exactly what we needed and we were wrong.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: But you're right. I mean, that doesn't mean just because
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: he was drafting the first round, we've seen it. But
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: I don't mean he's good my you know, my concern
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: with him was just that, all right, well, he's not
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: that prototypical man kind of size. Yeah, he's got all
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: the intangibles, but he's probably more of this like slot
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: safety kind of hybrid guy. And and and I don't
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: know for sure if that's exactly what they need. So
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: I think i'd think a little more of McDuffie than
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Mike does. Is that enough for an argument? Yeah, sure,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: he's gonna stink Paul. We'll make that into an argument.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Tim and the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I have a
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: question for Deuceoper, he's our expert on clothing in a
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: tie or for the Patriots. What do you think about
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones's eighty arm bands? Buddy of mine was arguing
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: about it. He thinks it's the stupidest thing ever. But
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: I think if he's sweet, a lot of kids would
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: do it. I don't know what that means. If he's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: I think he's Yeah, well, if he's good, so what
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what. He wears a lot of
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: like wrist bands on his arms, so it looks like,
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 1: you know, there's like five, six, seven of them, so
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: it looks like they're all, you know, lining his arms.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I I have to say I
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: kind of like his his overall, the way he plays,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: the style that he plays him. But I don't know
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: that he's got an athleticism to him that sort of
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: showed up just by watching him move around the field,
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: just a very like superficial first impression. Yeah, we'll see
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: just seemed kind of wired and quick and talking about
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: you know stuff. I like the fact that Bill spent
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: as much time with him as he did. I know
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: that sounds silly, but I like the fact that Bill
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: was talking to him about some of the techniques on
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: punt returns and stuff in two different times during that
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: last drill. Yeah. Joel in Lake Tahoe, California, Joel, I
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: would pay for Bill's breakdowns if he analyzed plays other
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: than punt and kick return every freaking week. If Bill
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: would break down the best four plays instead of the
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: four most boring plays. You watch the plays forward and
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: reverse about twenty times that Bill spits out one sentence,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: Look how the punter walks onto the field, look at him,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: extend his leg. Fix that, and I would come one,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: that's that's he's no, wait a minute, what he's obviously
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: doing the Paul slash Andy exaggeration. Yes, but there's some
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: truth to every exaggeration. He doesn't like unbelievable amount of
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: special teams plays, which I think it's his insistence of
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: telling you how important special teams are. He does that
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: which no one cares. And unless it's like the game
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: winning punt return for a touchdown, no one cares. And
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: the other thing is, I do feel like when he
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: watches the play, he's he does it like he would
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: do it, you know, with his coaches. I'm sorry, but
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: most people just watching it layman like me, they're not
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: watching the ninth time to see the different Nuance showed
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: me a play a couple of times. Explain it to me,
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Describe why it worked or didn't work, whatever the case
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: may be. Who you know who did the right you know,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe if there's a big run stuff
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: on on third and one, show me the guy that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: no one's talking about that occupied two blockers and then
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: let's get on with it like it goes on. Well,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: I think I think he does special teams a lot
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: because I think, like anything else, he doesn't really want
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: to give away what he really thinks about opponents. You know,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: you might be right, you know, you might be right.
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's more the last couple of years ago
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: you kind of have to use the special teams plays
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Let's not make last year
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: out to be like it was a train wreck. Yeah, guy,
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: don't make me out to be uh Sunshine dot com.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: That's only during the season Patrick's in Germany. Since it's
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: still offseason issue, I got one quick question about Jamie Collins.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: I think everybody knows his elite athleticism in the kind
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: of plays he's able to make. He got two big contracts,
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: but never really made it as an elite player that is,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: leading a defense. What do you think is the reason
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: or reasons for that. He definitely carved out a real
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: nice career, but he'll never be remembered as the guy,
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. I don't know what
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: you mean. Yeah, I don't know. I mean I think
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: he probably just one of those guys who was a
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: little bit more athletic than he was. I don't want
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: to say leader as but just but I also don't
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: think he was ever paid as a superstar. Like. I
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: don't think that those contracts were completely like out of
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: the realm at you know, yeah, reality for him. You
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: know he went to Cleveland, he was like the elading tackler.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: I don't think he was. He's not Miles Garrett on
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense, right. That's the the money for the like
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: the elite players is twice what Jamie Collins made. Didn't
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: even like a fifty million dollar contract something like that.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't remember or am I misremembering? Did he
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: get more money than I thought? Oh? I saw it
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: with too. I saw Deuce's reaction in the different monitor
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: Recover his rehab. His rehab girl was on you like
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: her Recovery America? Yeah, the old lady. No, she's fine,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: an old lady. She's a cool and he and he
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: used to be obsessed with that woman on National Force directional.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: I said she had a he's got a type. He
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: liked her. Do you guys think you guys disagree with
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: me on that? Can we fight on that? Like? Did
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Jamie Collins get like Khalil mac money? I missed it
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: or something he didn't like? He was never paid like
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: a super st. Yeah, no, he got, but he got
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 1: good free agent contract, but it always flamed out for whatever.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, he just hadn't had. But I think he
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: played fine. Yeah, and it's hard. He's a little bit
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: of a different cat. Why why do you think he
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: keeps leaving here? Right? Right? He's an odd ball? Yeah,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 1: and he's not Yeah, he's not signed. I don't know
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: if football is as important to him as they would
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: like it to be. Right, And It's like every team
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: you're on, there's always guys who are super talented but
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: just weirdos, or guys who aren't all that talented but
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: they love it and they're great leaders and just great guys,
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: and or they're super talented, but there's just something that
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: holds them back from being, you know, seeing their full potential. Yeah,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: you know, especially like it stinks when it's an injury
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: at that situation where it's like a guy who is, oh,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: got all this potential, but he just can't seem to
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: stay on. Did I ever tell you about my coffee
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: table book idea on coffee tables? No, it's the four years,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: fifty million is what he signed with Cleveland. I don't
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: think that's a ridiculous contract. Yeah, it's he could have
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: been cofee right, Yeah, I can tell you about Tony Knnigliaro,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Vo Jackson. You know all those guys. Just make it
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: a post like, yeah, both of those guys. Yeah, No,
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: there's a whole there's a whole list of them. You know,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: all of those guys we do just pat No, it's
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: gotta be everybody. Let's go to kill a sick five
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: five past five hundred Johns in Duxbury. Hey John, Johnny, gentlemen,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: who are you John? Doing great? Yeah? Well, you know
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: of all the farm you guys touched a couple of
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: minutes ago about the defense being a problem. But I
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: think the real problem is that linebacker. I mean, you've
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: got you done and deadly, and outside of McMillan, who
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: had somewhat of a resume, you've got Jennings, Oochie, Wilson,
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: Perkins and mcgron and not one of them. Isn't a
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: big question mark? You're right, Yep, you're right. I think
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: they're they're rolling the dice there. What's the backup plan
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: for that? If these guys don't work out? I don't
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: think there is one. I think they feel like that
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: group they'll get, they'll get enough guys. You know, you
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: get seven safeties on the field. Well they do have.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose you're right for that's a good point.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Why don't you explain that like that? That might be
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: the backup plan is you have the four safeties. You know,
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: if none of those linebackers turns out to be an
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: every down player or a guy that they can rely on,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe you see a lot more peppers or
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Phillips just acting as line briers. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: think that's the one. Yeah, that's what we're just saying.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: All yeah, all right, thanks, But John, I think that
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: that John's point is is right. I think that's what
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: they're relying on. I wrote that draft weekend. Um. I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: think on one of the days, I think the day
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: two analysis mean, for better or worse, it's it's time
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: for these guys. We talked about mccrown on Tuesday. He's
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 1: the smaller, faster type. I'm a little dubious, as I
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: mentioned on Tuesday, of just how fast he is. I know,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: you know the timed run, you know, uh, you know,
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: is there the time speed? But when I watched them
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit at Michigan, I didn't see that kind
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't see a Devin White type kind of you know,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: even Nakobe Dean you know, watching you know, Georgia this year.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: So we'll see if he can do that. And then
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: not only that, you know, maybe he was a four
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: four guy. What is he now coming off? Al I
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: just think one of at least two of these guys
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: that he listed off they have to step up and
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: have to be plus NFL players and they're you know,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: going from essentially young guys who have played a handful
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: of games. Maybe in the best case scenario, you know,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: Anthony Jennings, those j Perkins, like one of those guys
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: at least at least perfectly too have to step up.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a friend fred like question like he
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: was doing with Taekwon Thornton. If if Jawan Bentley is
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: a full time starter, is that good or bad? I
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: think he's bad. If it's on third down, I mean,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: I get him off the field. I mean I think
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: it's fine first second down. I mean I think he
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: needs to be better, he needs to be more consistent.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: I think he has improved a lot. But you know,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I think it's going to be some kind of mixture
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: with with mack Wilson, with Ray Kwa McMillan. I think
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: those are the two guys. Like I said, I mean,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: everybody wants to talk about Jay look at the veterans first.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: I think mac Wilson will be next to Bentley. I
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: really do, And I don't have much faith in that,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I think, how could you
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: you know? And I'm just judging. You know, Listen, I
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: know we've had guys that have come here that haven't
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: been terribly successful elsewhere. You know, Kyle van Noy, it's
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: a huge post a child for that, right he was
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: just sort of there in Detroit, came here, he was
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: a full time player for several years, made a lot
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: of plays. I don't know if we can expect that
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: all the time. Right, Well, that's and that's like a
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: complimentary player that feels like it puts you over the top.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: You know, you had some guys it wasn't like we
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: need Kyle Vannoy to come in here and just be
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: the man. And right now I feel like Rakua McMillan,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: we need you to be the man. Mac Wilson, we
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: need you to be the man, like you need to
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: come in. Most of the guys they took from other
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: teams and they brought in for a look ended up
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: being similar to what they were with other teams. You know,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy is a to me an exception, not
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: the rule. Like van Noy was a second round quasi
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: bust with Detroit. Came here and he was really good. Yep,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 1: Bill and DC writes in there's been a lot of
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: talk about who will call the plays this season for
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: the Patriots, and the biggest concern among some media members
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 1: seems to be that if it might be Bill himself
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: did some dig I did some digging, and there were
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: thirteen head coaches that called plays last season. Most of
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: them were under fifty, with the best example being Sean McVay,
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: but there were some in their fifties and sixties, most
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: notably Andy Reid at sixty three. What are your thoughts
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: about Bill as a potential play caller? Obviously, he's seen
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: everything there is to see in this league on both
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: offense and defense, and would bring a wealth of knowledge
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: to the position. But at seventy, is it too much
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: to expect him to be able to handle those duties
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: over a seventeen game season. I'd be concerned that he'd
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: wear down trying to do it all, and that would
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: affect the overall performance of the team. No, he needs
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: to be the head coach. He needs to be the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 1: head coach who oversees everything and can go where he's
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: needed to go. He can't be enveloped in do it
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: well because maybe they have staffs around them that that
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: can support it better. Perhaps maybe they're coaches who came
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: up that's their thing, you know, John Gruden, Josh mcdandy's
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: are play caller guys, Kyle Shanahan. Um, it's not his thing.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: I think he's most effective when he's able to hover
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: around and take the big picture of you on things
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: and make the call on you know, when to go
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: for it and all that kind of stuff. So I
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: don't I think it's just gonna be It's gonna be
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge, and I think I think he could do it.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: He's got the mfant over this. I agree with you,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: he can't do it. He's gonna have to delegate. You know.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: If he does do it, he's gonna have to hand
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: over the defense. That's why I don't want somebody, you know,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: That's why I don't want him do it. I think
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: I think he needs to do it on defense. Yeah,
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll wear down because he's seventy. I
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: don't think it'll take away from you know, like to
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: Mike's point about I think he's in charge of the team.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't. I don't worry about
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: the decisions suddenly. Oh no, I wasn't ready for that
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: because I was calling a play. I worry about what
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: happens to the defense if he's not there to put
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: as much effort into what I think again not fact.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: My opinion that that Dallas game, to me, was the
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: line of demarcation and he said, I can't do this anymore,
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: and he basically took over the defense. That's what I
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: think happened. Now, maybe he won't need to do that
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: this year. Maybe they can get it straightened out, but
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think he's gonna need to
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: to do that on defense. He can't do that on
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: defense if he's calling players on offense, right, But I
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: do think there's a really good chance that he'll call
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: plays on offense. Um, yeah, I see, I think what
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: I hate about I think he can do it, first
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: of all. But what I hate about the idea is
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: you lose him for the rest of the teams, like
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: how many how often, whether it's offense or defense or
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: what you know, he turns his back to the field
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 1: and he's with that group talking about adjustments or something
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: that he saw or that's fine, you know, like you say,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: like like the thirteen other players, why can't you know
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: the thirteen other coaches? None of them have to run
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: their defense too. Right, that's my point. I think he
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: can run the team. I think he can turn around
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 1: and talk to the offense, just like he turned around
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: and talked to the defense at times. Right, he had
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: us back to the game many times, I can guarantee
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: you that. But he can't do both on those thirteen teams.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm not an expert. I don't know
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: all the names, but I'll bet you on most of
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: them where the coach is calling the plays was an
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: experienced defensive coordinator. Yeah, Like that's that's Sean mcvay's thing, right,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: that's why you Originally he got Wade Phillips to make
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: sure he had a strong veteran presence. Now Wade Phillips
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: is gone now. But yeah, I also think people make
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: it out to be so cut and dry, like builds
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: the head coach. He's on the headset, Like he doesn't
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: have to be holding the card and talking to the
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: quarterback to be calling the plays. He can say, hey, Joe,
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: let's go in this direction with these Let's let's try
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: to go this, you know, and continue to take in
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: the big picture, we're gonna run it here, right, but
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: but not have to be like in the weeds of
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: like or fifteen seconds, let's go. It's a strong right,
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: you know that reading off the play I agree those
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: because those two things aren't the same. I agree with you,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: there's there there's some nuance to it that I think
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: is lost a little bit on how play calling works.
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: And as we touched on last show too, though, it's
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: always such a buzz thing for fans of like the
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: offense of the play calling. You know who people get
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: so mad in Max ear? Yeah, I think it'll be
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Joe Judge and that's who it is right now, and
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: I think he'll be throughout. Is Bill chiming in and situations?
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: I probably? I bet he did it with Josh too.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Of hey, let's think about this here, those kind of
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: things of of guiding the offense and not necessarily being
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: in the weeds of the quarterback communication run out right
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: right right, all right, all right? Watch the bundle linebacker
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 1: on this one. You know they're gonna drop out. No,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: no disrespect to the ind call, but we're going out
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: all right, right right. I Meanwhile, they're like culture, they
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: just walk right down the field on defense. What are
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: we supposed to do? Just tell them to do their job?
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: I'm we're working on my offense here, you know, like
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: that's that's not gonna happen. Tell them to do their job,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: Alex and Pentucket. Uh, just wanted to touch on something
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Paul mentioned in an earlier show. I'm still really concerned
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: that this defense will get run all over. There was
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: minimal change to the front seven, and we didn't take
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: one of the top linebackers. Do you all believe that
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: the run defense is our weakest point on defense or
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: is it still corner? Also for content purposes, I would
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: pay for seeing the PU crew versus Patriots coaching in
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: athletic challenges. That would be sight to see Brown, and
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: I've got my money on the PU coach. Something outside
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: of football could be fun. You have seeing Troy Brown.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: He's still we lost Andy. He was like most of
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: them are young, yeah, right, Like Pellegrino played like d
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: one lacrosse right there and they and they like run
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: out to practice, they run across the field. I mean
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: they're running old. We're just sitting on It's the only
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: one I could compete with, right. Joe Judge is a
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 1: big dude too, Yeah, I mean they're all twenty years
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: must want to get it. Unless we want to get
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: going with hockey, then let's get him out there. All
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: we get Mayo stack if we get to Choo, was like,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: what it is like you do something hockey? Maybe I could,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't played tennis. Maybe throw throw
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: batting practice, you know, something like that. Paul striking out
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: Matt Patricia. I'm here for it. I'm here for Belichick
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 1: in Patricia, I could compete with both of them. Brian
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: from the Bay Area, Uh, you should be able to
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: argue about mac Jones. At various times, Paul Is called
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: mac Jones short, fat, too small, too slow, and proclaimed
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: that he does not have an NFL caliber arm. He's
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: basically saying that the Patriots will never go anywhere until
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: they dump Mac and find someone else. By the way,
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: I kind of agree with him, right, And Mike is
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: higher on mac Jones than I am. I am too,
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: but not strongly. But I'm not banging the drum then, right,
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 1: He's the guy forever, no questions asked. I think he's
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: got a lot to prove. I do. That's why I
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: sit down the road. That's something I think that we
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: should do. I am fine, but I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: I'll give you the spoiler alert if he has, like
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: you know, a meteoric rise this year. I'm not going
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 1: to be the guy that says no, no, no, he
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: still sucks. Yeah, well, he's just limited. He can't know.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: Then he's Brady. Then he overcomes his physical shortcomings with
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: his mental acuity and he becomes a better quarterback as
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: a result. Right, And I'll admit that much like I
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: did with Brady. Yeah, I'm perfectly fine with Mac. Yeah,
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: me too. I mean it goes back to what I
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: said last week. I love everything he is, a great
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: way to put it, I'm perfectly fine with it too. Yeah,
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I love everything he is off the field in terms
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 1: of his dedication to the team, is focused, the way
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: that he came in, the way he competes, the way
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: he bounces back from tough situations. But I think there
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: are certainly questions and and and the other part of
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: it that that people are mentioning is that it's a
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: blood bath in the league right now. Like he's got
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: to beat Josh Allen like he can be. He could
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: be a plus quarterback and still not lead his team
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: to victory over over what the Bills are right now.
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: So it's a huge task and I just I don't
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 1: feel it's fair to him till all of a sudden
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: carve out my area And this is it. I you know,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: this is the guy, Like you got to let him
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 1: prove it, and then when he does prove it, then
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 1: then give him credit for it. Absolutely, and I will. Yeah.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: Chris from Virginia, hearing Paul talk about Cougars, I had
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: to write in my thoughts about the coaching staff. I
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: have concerns over the offensive coaching staff, but not because
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: they haven't named an OC. Even if they name one,
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 1: my concerns would be the same. There's not a lot
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: of experience, and with Mac going into a second year,
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: the decision to not have someone experienced an offense is concerning.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: I just hope for consistency with Mac and his development.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Like I know, I again, Yeah, what happens?
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 1: Did you talk about Cougar? Yeah? No, I mentioned Cougars,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: but I thought we were talking about and then I
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: think he did a non sequitor. But anyway, um, listen,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: I know people are really dumping on Patricia and Joe Judge,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go back to the fact that they
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: were NFL head coaches, and that experience is worth something.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: And like good or bad, Joe Judge has experience with offense.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: He does. He played quarterback, he does. What what is
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: that he's played in any any as a head coach,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and like these guys like it was a
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: special team or at Mississippi State in like fifth quarterback
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: on the depth shop. But he played special teams. Okay,
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: he was the punt protector. But like he didn't get
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: get his coaching resume out, like he coached wide receivers
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 1: and special teams one year. Okay, but that's not an
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 1: experience as an offensive coordinator. I don't know. I didn't
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: say I said an offense. I didn't. It's not really
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 1: any like discernible experience as an offense. The email has said,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: regardless of whether who they name always see I would,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 1: he said, he, I'd still be worried because there's not
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: of a lot of experience on the offensive side and coaches. Yeah,
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: I mean in his entire career he coached partially part
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: time one year an offensive position. So there's not a
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: lot of experience on the offensive coaching staff. Does that
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: mean they can't do it? No, it doesn't mean they
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: can't do it, but it does mean like that's a
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: fact they're not experienced offensive coaches. I think he's an
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: experienced coach, Yes he is. He knows football, Yes he does. Erico,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: I think I think he can not the same. I
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: think he can coach offense. That's a leap, yeah, but
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: but leaps have been made in coaching though. I mean,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: you know, like, these are the things that happen, right.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: All I want is one comp Just give me one
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: comp of this happening. What do you mean, like a
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: coach a team that took two defensive guys and made
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: them offensive, cordinal, there's no comp and you know, winning
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: six super Bowls in twenty years either. But it happened,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: and he's back. I'm proud of you, Fred, Thank you.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Andy would be proud right now. Of course Andy probably
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: would have just burst a blood vessel, right, But that
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: was that was good. I like that. Um. Chris with
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: a T I A. N. Writes in now that Eric
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: is gone, who travels with Fred on road games? This year?
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: In will this affect the pre and post game shows? Oh?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see, Yeah, it will not affect the pre and
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: post game shows we'll see. It has been said. I
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: might make Paul all year what I never tried, what
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: I never traveled before, never dug a hole thirteen years
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: every game. We'll see how the season goes? Now how
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 1: much people want to travel? Yeah, well we're not done.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 1: We might be hiring somebody. Yeah yeah, in fact I
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: can say that we're gonna. In fact, it might already
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: be posted. Yeah, staff writer, was it? Is it posted?
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: But you did send it to me? So yeah, So um,
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: if you're sending it to him, what is what? Why
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: am I not in the loop anymore? Because because my
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: son with that Deuce is gonna hire what do you
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: mean he's hiring He's gonna work for Duce? Oh my god,
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: this is this is this is I need. I don't worry, Paul.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. But no, Deuce is gonna every
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: time I let you hire someone not Mike is the
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: only guy that I was in on the ground floor
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: and we hit Oh yeah, I'm running perfect. I hire you.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: He doesn't yell at you. Yeah. I wasn't here to
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: do anything about that in Mike Greece. Yeah, yeah, it's
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: the rings you know, I'm still living on that. You
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: know you used to work here. You know it is
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: Chinese food orders. Um, nobody knows what you're talking about. Oh,
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes you forget what things it's nobody knows what you're
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: talking about. Um. Yeah. So if you're a young staff writer,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: as someone who's covered, maybe you want to travel, you know,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: college sports or pro sports for you know, you want
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 1: to work for the Patriots. Yeah, go to glett Stadium
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: dot com. But in an app and apply what kind
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: of person you're gonna be looking for? Whatever Paul tells me.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 1: Evidently I don't have already say yeah, I don't know
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: somebody who who loves it? Why would you know someone
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: that you know substantively running back, I guess I've lost
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: some some juice that I didn't know about. We'll find
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: someone who loves loves it, wants to wants to jump
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: right in right and yell at Paul. Yeah, oh, yell
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: at Paul. Paul's not involved, you'll be involved. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: well I'll be involved. So but what you see someone
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: who loves it? Oh? Yeah, somebody who's I mean to say,
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: I mean I would say somebody who was like me,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: who wants to just be immersed in it and cover
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: it and do whatever. Someone who loves to write and report. Yep,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: yeah right, exactly that right, you know, wants to do video,
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: wants to beyond camera, wants to produce, wants to maybe
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: at some point beyond this show. Maybe at some point
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: beyond this show. A little personality would be great. Um,
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: you know, easy going and yeah, yeah, I guess that's it.
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: That's buzz much fun. Well, I mean I gotta see
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: what kind of people apply, right yeah, sure, uh being
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: Fresno non football question. What are some good stories you
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: have about eccentric names, roommates, or other ancillary characters in
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: your life, you know, oddball or otherwise distinctive people with
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: whom you've crossed paths. We writeing a sitcom here, Pretty sure.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: I've told stories of my neighbor who is an Elvis impersonator.
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: All right, yeah that's good. Yeah, I don't think he
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: does it anymore. But I had some crazy neighbors in LA.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: I remember we had a rolling blackout one time and
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: we just listened to this girl break up with her boyfriend. Um,
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: she also had two yappy Pomeranian dogs that would just
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: how did you listen to that? It was? It was
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: it wasn't even like so, you know, the powers out,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: so there's no we can't watch TV. So it's quiet,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: and there's maybe four feet between our building and theirs,
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: and you could just you know, hear this girl tearing.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: The boyfriend's like hard out, you know, just and he
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: was like, what do I have to do? And me
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: and Lane are just sitting there like listen, we got
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: nothing else to do, but they but but the dogs
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: bothered our neighbor, who was this old, angry, angry guy
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: who lived next door to us. And so what he
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: did in retaliation was we start to just put like
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Japanese Korean radio. He
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: would just put like AM radio with whatever it is,
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: like Korean and blasted out his window into her apartment
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: as like psychological warfare. So we were well, but then
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: we got you know, we were we got the crossfire,
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: We get caught and we gotta listen to you know,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: just this AM radio channel on blasts. So, m that's
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: the first random thing. I don't know what else. Yeah,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I'd have to think about it, but I
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: and then I'd have to think what can I say
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: without getting sued? But you know, I've had some oddball
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: interactions with people. I'm a little concerned. I saw my
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: neighbor today out with the tree tech guy walking their
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: yard and I was like, Oh, he's using tree tech. Yeah,
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: tree tech. So I'm hoping that that's not Yeah, this
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: tree's on years the bucket truck or I don't know
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: how they're going to get back there. They're gonna get
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: a Monster Korean to get back there between our houses.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't know. That's That's something that's on my
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: radar right now, especially after my boiler just broken. Yeah,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: all right, well listen, that's going to be it for
• 1:59:00
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• 1:59:04
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• 1:59:08
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• 1:59:12
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• 1:59:16
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