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Little House of Mahj - Episode 6 - How to Score, and Slamming · Little House of Mahj

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  Hey everyone, welcome to the podcast.
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  Well, we finally decided it was time for us to play Maj. for
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  money and learn how to score. So today we review the scoring
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  rules with you and share how it went for us.
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  Not surprisingly, we have mixed reviews.
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  Also, we share some Mother's Day Maj. gifts we received and we
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  talk about a controversial gameplay choice some folks make
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  called slamming. Have you heard of it?
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  Here we go. We're four sisters game hope.
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  We all love it and we hope you feel the same.
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  So come on in and listen to our podcast because everyone is
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  welcome. In the little.
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  House of Mars. Hello everybody, and welcome to
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  the Little House of Maj. podcast.
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  I'm Lisa. I'm Tina.
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  I'm Amy. And I'm Teresa.
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  And we're good to be here and we are so glad to be back for
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  another fun episode. So let's this week what what
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  happened guys before we kind of launch into our topics today.
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  Well, I. Wanted to say Happy Mother's
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  Day. It we.
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  Had a lovely it was it was recently.
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  We're all mothers. We're all moms.
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  We. Are all moms?
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  So what did everybody do? Well, I had I had a lovely
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  Mother's Day. My husband, who's fabulous,
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  presented me with a mahjong cake.
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  And I was there on this side, I. Was there?
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  So what? What was it like?
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  So it was really cute and it was so thoughtful.
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  He actually picked up a ice cream cake from the grocery
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  store. But on top there was like this
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  picture of it was like what a mahjong table?
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  It was like a host, you know, like there's like waffers that
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  have. And it said, it said Happy
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  Mother's Day, but it was, it was like the mahjong table.
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  It had the mahjong. But I mean, he, he ordered it
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  from Etsy, which I will say this really took forethought and he
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  planned ahead. It was really super thoughtful.
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  So it was cool because he just kind of got the cake.
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  And then and then he put it on just.
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  Laid it on. Printed edible wafer.
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  Yeah, like if you had a print edible printer.
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  I see what? You say, I will say this, it
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  wasn't the most delicious thing on top, but it was the.
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  Cutest. That's adorable.
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  Yeah, so we kind of peeled it off before we ate it, but it was
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  so. Sweet and thoughtful.
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  What was the tapping? 3D or was it flat?
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  No, it was flat. It was, it was, it was like a
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  picture it. Was like a.
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  Picture like someone clearly used, you know?
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  Sometimes people print literally their face on a photograph and
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  they put it on a. Cage Yeah, when I saw the image
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  I thought it was 3D. It was.
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  A good. It looked 3D.
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  It was not 3D, it was not 3D, but it was really cute and I
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  forced the man to play mahjong with me under duress.
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  He knows how to play mahjong. He doesn't love it like we do,
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  but he. Was very lovingly.
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  He was so mahjong. And I'm going to give him a
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  shout out. He got his very first mahjong
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  ever on Mother's Day and I thought that might have hooked
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  him in. I want to play more but.
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  That I think he decided to go out on top.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's, I think he decided
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  to go on top. He wasn't done, baby.
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  He kind of anyway, so thanks babe.
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  You're sweet. That's. 80 What about you?
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  Good for you. I actually before Mother's Day,
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  I was like, this is I was also going to have force play with my
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  family. I love force play, yes.
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  And they can't say. They cannot say no on Mother's
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  Day. But I was gifted these very cute
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  mahjong cheese spreaders that were a pair and that had like
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  tiles as the handles super cute as well as kitchen towels so
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  they will be I kind. Of feel like our families know
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  going forward. Any cute little mahjong?
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  Anything. Well, Lord knows there's enough
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  swag out there to give so well I.
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  I did absolutely 0 mahjong related things on Mother's Day.
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  I had a celebrity, Teresa. I know.
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  What did you do? Did you have delicious snacks we
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  had? A delicious lunch.
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  We went down to the Little Italy area of town Nice.
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  We walked around it was beautiful day.
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  Had a delicious lunch. And no thoughts of mahjong.
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  No, I'm. I'm.
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  Sad. I feel sad for.
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  You, but it was a great day. Yeah, I got to spend my Mother's
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  Day. With you I know that I mean
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  bonus I mean. What a treat for you, treat
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  Tina. What a treat.
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  It was a treat for both of us. So one of the things that we
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  wanted to talk about today that hopefully, you know, that was
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  very new to us. We'd never done this is scoring.
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  So #1 we're very curious. Listeners.
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  Do you score? And we're gonna kind of talk
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  about 'cause I think most people, correct me if I'm wrong,
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  don't score that I, that we know of.
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  And we didn't know what the heck we were doing.
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  So Tina, our rules gave us gave us the the rules, and then we
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  literally just finished playing. We just put.
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  The. First time we all.
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  Brought a satchel. Oh, a coin we.
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  Brought a little satchel of coins.
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  There it is. Tina's really excited.
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  Really. Excited.
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  It's a really. Cute satchel.
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  We should post a picture of my satchel.
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  Oh, that's a good. It just seems so old time.
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  That's quality visuals. So anyway, Tina, take it away.
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  OK, first of all, explain to us. OK, so like she said, we've
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  never scored before. No one I've ever played with
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  actually scores, but we decided to play for money today.
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  So basically here's how it works.
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  The numbers for each hand is the amount of money that the hand is
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  worth. So on the right of the card it
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  has. X points #2530.
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  The harder the hand, the more points it is, right?
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  So after someone wins, other players have to pay them based
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  on that amount. And there's rules, of course,
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  because it's mahjong and you know, there's.
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  Always plenty of ridiculous, so let's just go. 1 by 1.
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  One by one. OK so the first rule about
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  paying is if you get a mahjong by picking your own tile.
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  Like if you pick from the wall and you get mahjong, that's
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  called considered a self pick. If you pick your own tile,
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  everybody else has to pay you double the amount.
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  So if it's a 25 5 cent hand, everyone has to pay you $0.50.
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  Does that make sense? Yes, yes.
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  And I think it's interesting because that one is just luck.
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  It's totally. Because there's other ones that
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  involve strategy which we would get into, but that one is
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  purely. Luck.
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  So if you pick your own tile, everyone just pays you double.
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  Now if you pick a tile for off the wall for a joker exchange
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  and then you use that joker to get mahjong, that's still
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  considered a self pick. So again, walk us through that
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  one again. OK, so if you're picking from
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  the wall and you pick a tile that you can use to get a joker,
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  and then that joker is what enables us to get you a mahjong,
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  that's still considered a self pick and everyone pays you
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  double. Now, one of the things that we
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  were talking about, and this is where I'm curious, you all
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  listening, do you pay at the moment?
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  Because we're like, oh, do you just keep score?
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  Do you actually exchange coins? I know you were.
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  You were. Skeptical like what?
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  I don't. Need $0.50.
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  You know, like write it down on a piece of paper.
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  I don't know. You were not a fan of the
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  exchange to me think. You pay as you go.
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  It's fun. Everyone pays out.
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  Was that fun? I thought it was kind of dumb.
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  People. I just like playing like, why do
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  you need to score? Why do you need to carry around
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  coins? I don't know.
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  Because it adds another element. Well it does add an element so I
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  kind of but. Strategy.
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  It adds a different strategy. I tend to be like, if I know
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  someone needs something and I know I'm not going to win, like
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  I'll be like, Merry Christmas. Lisa.
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  Here's the tile you need. That makes me Tina crazy.
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  What did you say at the game today when Tina wanted you to be
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  cutthroat? I said that blood is thicker
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  than quarters. That's what I said and believe.
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  It, however, Tina said. Let me tell.
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  Let me tell you. Let me tell you, I didn't.
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  Think about this. This is all about being nice,
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  which is why we love her. She's just one of the sweetest
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  people I know. But in mahjong, when you're
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  playing for money, being nice to one player is really being
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  unkind to the other two players because it's making it harder
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  for them to win and then they're going to have to pay.
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  They're going to have to pay another $0.25.
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  Oh my gosh. No, Patricia Theresa, I know.
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  What you're saying, I know what you're saying.
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  It's not really nice. It's.
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  Not necessarily good. To the.
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  Gander, I get it. Yeah.
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  I don't think the here's my thing and I kind of agree with
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  you. The wagers are not life changing
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  money to really. There are people that would get,
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  I know. Durious, but for us.
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  For us, maybe not, but I'm just doing.
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  It for. Fun, or probably most people.
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  Well, that's the thing. Like who?
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  Let us know. Yeah, let.
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  US know this. Stuff.
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  Really. Seriously.
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  Well, and I, I am curious, like I like the physical exchange of
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  the coins. I think it's kind of funny, but
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  I wonder if people actually play with dollars.
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  Well, I could see if you amped up stakes if it was like $20
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  instead of $0.20, but also $50 instead of $0.50.
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  Now that would that would. Now Amy's perking up.
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  Now you're. Talking now.
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  You're talking but. Can I Can I interject also when
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  people are playing for money and people I'm?
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  This is a huge assumption, so listeners correct me if I'm
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  wrong. Tell Tina she's full of it.
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  Wow, she's been being so nice today.
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  Now she's. A little sassy, anyway.
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  The people that play for money are generally the people that
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  have been playing a longer time are really serious and they play
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  quickly and so there's a lot of rounds.
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  So if you're playing ten hands, I mean a dollar, a dollar here,
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  a dollar there, well, make it. You could do a whole lot of
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  laundry in my book because there's a lot of quarters being
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  exchanged. And I lived most of my life.
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  I lived most of my life having to pay quarters for laundry.
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  And let me tell you, it was hard giving away quarters because I
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  hoarded them. Well, OK, so let's get back to.
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  Let's get. Back.
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  OK, so here's the thing. The first rule that we just
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  talked about is pure luck. It has nothing to do with the
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  strategy that we just talked to. Right.
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  So what's your own town? OK, so you're.
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  On town then. What if someone, and this is
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  what Teresa's talking about, just being nice, if you supply
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  the tile that someone needs for mahjong, you have to pay double
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  and then everyone else just pays normal so.
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  Really. Discard a tile?
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  You pick it up and say mahjong. You have to pay double.
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  Double. And if yeah, and then everyone
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  else just pays the normal amount.
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  Which again, in my book, that second criteria is kind of not
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  luck, but there's not a lot of strategy to it well.
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  But you're you. You'd be more careful about what
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  you're discarding. You'd be more defensive with
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  your discards because you don't want to give someone mahjong.
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  Well, but I feel nobody wants to give anybody Mahjong Teresa.
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  Certainly doesn't seem to care. I think it's.
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  Nice. Anyway, Amy, go ahead.
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  Well, no, I, I agree. I think my strategy today is I
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  don't intentionally give or throw tiles that I think will
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  give somebody else mahjong. But I thought there was an
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  interesting. Maybe it's your next rule.
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  It's about. Jokers, the Joker exchange.
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  I thought that's impactful from a strategy.
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  So let's talk about that. So here's where it gets
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  interesting. Okay, if you win mahjong and
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  your mahjong hand at the time of mahjong doesn't have any jokers
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  in it. You mean exposed, right?
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  Or it. No it doesn't.
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  At all. Just at all you're when you,
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  when you show the people your mahjong hand and there are no
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  jokers at the time of mahjong, then the stakes get higher.
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  If you pick your own tile, if it's a self pick like we talked
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  about earlier and it's jokerless, everyone has to pay
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  you 4 times the amount. So if it's a 20, so if it's a 25
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  cent hand, everybody pays you a dollar, that's $4.00.
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  That's not chump change. That is not chump change.
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  So what Amy was, what Amy was talking about is it's sort of,
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  it really does change the way like do you do a joker exchange?
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  Do you help someone have a joker less hand?
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  Do you? Well, to me it's because
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  obviously you want the Joker. So yeah, you do have to be.
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  Do you really need the Joker? Which generally you do, but
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  there is a downside because you may should that person get Maj.
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  you might be helping them with a joker less hand and they're
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  breaking in the money. You wouldn't do a joker exchange
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  unless you really needed to anyway.
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  But again, with the joker less hand thing, if someone else
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  discards and you have a joker less hand, the discarder pays
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  four times the amount and everyone else has to pay twice
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  the amount. So having a joker less hand you
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  get more. What was the scenario that when
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  we were just playing that there was like a double whammy that
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  you did? A double.
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  Wham, there was a double whammy like you exchange.
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  You had a joker. Less it was just I was just able
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  to, I just got 2 joker exchanges and one it didn't have anything
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  to do with me having a joker less hand.
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  Tina did have a lessons learned because what happened during our
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  play was that she did a Joker exchange.
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  And then I realized I didn't need the joker and I ended up
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  having to discard the Joker. Yeah, and, you know, I think
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  people sometimes get a high from discarding a joker.
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  You know, we all feel more powerful.
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  Or doing that. Or just knee jerk doing a joker
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  exchange. Like you get that tile and you.
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  Right, right. Which means she had a Joker
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  list. She.
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  Had a joker list and. You didn't even need that Joker.
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  Exactly that was. Really stupid.
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  It was really stupid. And I was annoyed that you threw
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  out a joker that I really. Could have.
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  That's the only time when we just played that it clicked in
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  terms of strategy. Why?
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  How it changed, how I would play the game like the other ones.
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  To me, it is what it is. You can't really control that
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  one that is in your hands. To do so anyway, those are the
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  rules for scoring and playing with money.
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  Concealed hands. Oh.
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  Right, thanks. Concealed hands, those joker
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  less hand rules do not apply. So if you're playing a concealed
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  hand and you have a joker less hand you don't get, there's no
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  bonus for that on a concealed hand.
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  Why? Why would?
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  There not be because most concealed hands you can't use a
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  joker. In the first place.
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  But well, again. Another weird rule.
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  OK, so we really are interested. What do you all do?
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  Littlehouseofmaj@gmail.com E-mail us.
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  We want to know and we'll kind of share some of the results.
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  Again, we tried it for the first time.
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  It was interesting. You know, is it my favorite
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  thing? Maybe not.
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  But you know, I think it was fun to try.
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  I enjoyed trying. I think it was a fun twist it.
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  Was fun. It was an interesting twist, so
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  if you haven't tried it, give it a try.
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  So you want? To know I want to know is do
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  people? Score like do.
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  People ever actually score without the money part just to
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  see who wins? I don't know.
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  To me that's like gin rummy though.
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  Didn't you used to do that in? Yeah.
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  Yeah, like. You keep score.
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  Yeah. Anyway, moving on.
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  Before we end, Tina, you, you had a very interesting, not fun
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  fact, but something that you learned about some play.
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  Oh, oh, oh. Oh, I heard about something
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  called slamming which I didn't know was a thing.
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  Sounded so aggressive. It is aggressive.
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  It is aggressive. So slamming is basically when
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  two people want the same discard tile usually.
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  I mean, the rule is it goes in order, but if you want to kind
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  of be a jerk you just pick it up and put it on your rack really
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  fast. Asked because whoever has it on
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  their rack first gets it, so you.
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  Can I thought, here's the thing, I don't understand why that
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  Trump's the rule of whoever is next.
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  That doesn't make sense to. Me no, but like.
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  Right. It is.
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  Though but wait a second, is it the fact?
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  Is it they both verbally? Call No, it's someone says I
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  call, they grab the tile and they they just blam it on their
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  if you start. So the rule isn't it's actually
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  in the rule because I looked it up because it seemed bananas to
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  me. The rule is it goes in order or
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  who never exposes first. So it's the possession is 9/10
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  of the law rule, but with what you're saying.
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  It just seems mean. It's not cool.
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  It's not. Those two rules are in.
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  Yeah, there is. Total opposition.
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  I know I'll I'll look into it more, but that's kind of what is
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  crazy. But, but wouldn't you want to
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  call it fast so you don't give people the opportunity to think
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  about it? Well, but here's what I have to.
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  Do because then slamming's. Good.
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  Are you pro con slamming people? I think it's it's not a cool
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  thing. Like from what I understand it's
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  really bad. I can think faster, you don't
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  even try that. Yeah, I mean, if you're playing
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  fast though, isn't that what naturally I?
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  Guess. And maybe it's.
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  Just in you. I guess maybe.
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  You need a sister bond, a sister agreement in blood.
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  No slamming. Just say no to slamming is this.
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  You snooze, you lose. Wait a second, if I'm fast and I
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  know I want that tile and I want to make it happen.
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  Yeah, I mean, why? Do I have to wait for you to
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  think about? It you know.
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  I kind. Of Wow, Amy.
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  I just don't understand if the rule is because here's the thing
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  that I don't know. Is it because you it's the
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  difference is physically taking the dice as opposed to two
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  people at the same time saying I call it.
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  That's when the order of operations comes into play.
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  The difference in slamming is you are physically grabbing the
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  tile and you say putting it on. Boom, slam it on So.
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  What if both people are doing it and you're a wrestling match?
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  Then it's a feat of strength. I don't know dogs and cats.
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  Anyway. Together.
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  Anyway, chaos. I just wanted to bring up
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  slamming because I hadn't heard of it before and just seems
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  aggressive. We talked it through, we all had
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  different opinions. Yeah, yeah.
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  Point. I'm too nice for that kind of
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  OK. Well, I think we've made an
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  agreement, everyone. No slamming for the sisters.
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  Oh, wait, no. You're right.
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  Do it, I agreed. We're so nice.
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  I think Amy and I are on the snooze.
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  You lose Cam, yes. You're the nice.
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  This is a good time to stop people.
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