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Trans star Ethel Cain posts FULL FRONTAL on Instagram (somehow that's allowed!?) · NORMAL GAYS Podcast

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  As a trans person myself, one thing that I've come to realize
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  is that visibility is not the destination, it is the struggle
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  toward normalcy. You know what will really help
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  with normalcy is trans people posting their.
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  This isn't visible like this is visibility that helps no one.
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  Every day that passes, trans people in this country lose more
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  and more rights. This is a statement on trans
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  rights. It's a statement on women's
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  rights and statement on censorship.
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  You. Posted pics to your Instagram
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  and you're saying this is a statement on women's rights?
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  Hey guys, welcome to normal Gaze sanity.
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  I'm Brad Palumbo here with Clarkson Lawson.
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  What's up guys? Make sure you subscribe to the
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  channel bitches. Do you know who Ethel Kane is?
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  I don't actually know what Ethel Kane is famous for, nor do I
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  know what Ethel Kane looks like, but I know that Ethel Kane is
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  trans. You want to see her?
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  No. Well, you're gonna.
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  Have to why why do we do this she literally gonna think that
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  you know people are gonna think that you're into it after we we
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  already saw Lily Tino's. Well, OK, that was.
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  Brad is making these. That was hot.
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  Normally I say stuff like that. Yikes, that.
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  Was. I'm rubbing off on Brad.
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  OK, so Ethel Kane is apparently some kind of like trans
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  celebrity or whatever and Ethel posted a photo on Instagram that
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  just had her fold. Out actually.
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  Actually, and it's being heralded as brave, Stunning
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  trans visibility. On insert and did it get taken
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  down? No.
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  They let it stay up. So here's the headline from them
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  the LGBT publication. The only trans visibility I care
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  about is Ethyl Cane posting nudes on Maine.
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  The letter. That trans day visibility for IG
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  nudes are an embodiment of the collective mood.
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  No, ma'am, Actually, no. Collective mood Well, actually,
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  I would argue yeah, because Transparent is pretty popular in
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  the United States right now it's not my current mood.
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  I don't think it'll ever be I'm. Never going to be my.
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  But unless. We watch Lily Tino again.
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  I just think I'm I was thinking about this on the way here
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  because I was hanging out with the dolls this weekend and they
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  always make jokes about like, turning me into a chaser.
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  You know what that means? Yes.
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  I do, but that's just not going to happen.
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  No, they're just joking. Opposite, but I think that I'm
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  like too type a black and white to be with a trans person.
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  Like I could be with Bonnie blue.
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  I could obviously I can be with men, but I think that the the
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  mixing I I feel uncomfortable with like subconsciously maybe
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  and I'm just very type A like one or the other.
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  OK, that makes sense. I was thinking about that on the
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  way here. We'll see how you feel about
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  this Grinder decided to post about this the official grinder
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  accountants and they said Ethel Kane posting full frontal isn't
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  radical. Then the author of this blog
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  post on grinder is says quote. As a trans person myself, one
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  thing that I've come to realize is that visibility is not the
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  destination. It is the struggle toward
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  normalcy. You know what will really help
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  with normalcy is trans people posting their.
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  This isn't visible like this is visibility that helps no one.
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  Here I'll show you the actual post.
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  Ethel can post it on Instagram, but we can't post it on on
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  YouTube, obviously because we're not trans, so we don't get to do
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  whatever we want all the. Time my I mean my biggest issue
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  with this actually, hold on, let me see Yeah, let's.
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  See it see post. Wait, why is this allowed this?
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  Is literally on made. Why is this allowed?
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  I'm confused. You're literally just allowed to
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  do whatever you want dude. What part of this do you not
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  understand? Literally no one wanted to see
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  that or ask that. And imagine you're just a child
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  scrolling on Instagram and you turn it and it's a trans woman
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  with the Franken beans. I just first of all.
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  Nobody should be doing this. Why?
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  This is pissing me off as a capitalist.
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  Why are you not charging for this?
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  Oh my God, that's. Where you went?
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  I just feel like this is the dumbest, that you are so stupid.
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  Ethel Kane. All the morality.
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  Concerns, so sorry. Why are you giving it away for
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  free? Why are you posting?
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  And gays do this all the time on Twitter.
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  Like they'll post way too much and it's like if you're not
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  making money off of this, you need attention that badly.
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  It's sad. Like when I do it, I make money.
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  You got to pay for it. I just think I.
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  Can't really criticize posts. Like yes you can.
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  You would never just post that on Instagram.
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  Main no. And like my grandmother, follows
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  me. Children could see it's like so
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  inappropriate. It has really has very little to
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  do with Ethel being trans. It's like, yeah, a gay
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  celebrity. Poster genitalia.
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  Straight man posting that would be unacceptable.
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  You don't post your genitalia on an app that kids are on.
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  Or just yeah, also like. That that's another thing.
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  It's like the the charging it thing and capitalist thing was
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  obviously a bit, but like you're when you go on OF or on this
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  platforms that are designated for this, you have to upload
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  your ID like you can't. No, I'm very confident that no
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  children are seeing anything that I have any risky stuff I've
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  sent out like and that makes it more OK for me.
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  But like this is not you. If you click click post on this,
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  you have to be OK with a child seeing it, which is.
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  Creepy. That's disgusting.
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  And the other thing I'll say about this is if you are a guy
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  and you just message women pictures of your penis, that's
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  considered sexual harassment. Unsolicited Dick pics, but you
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  can just unsolicited pic this is.
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  Yeah, I really, that's why it just pissed me off, because
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  there's no limit as to where the gay community will ever
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  criticize someone. And it's like.
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  The comments are all like slay Mama.
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  I just don't understand why we can't have any sense of like
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  boundary of how of how we should act like no expectations of
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  behavior for for maybe for the gays like their expectations are
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  like let trans people do whatever they want.
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  But specifically with like the whole like them publication like
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  none of these glad they're never going to say anything.
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  If I was working for GLAAD, I would be putting out an article
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  saying this is harmful. This is harmful to trans people.
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  Well. Do you think this is going to
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  increase trans acceptance? No.
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  I mean you're increasing visibility, but the product of
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  that visibility is not positive they.
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  Said trans visibility, I don't think.
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  They didn't mean they didn't mean this type of visibility,
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  Ethel. Oh, by the way, become a channel
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  member. We do weekly members only videos
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  and we've got over 1000 members. Over 1000, I mean 10,000 for me
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  to stop doing all right. Maybe it can be a lower number,
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  but whatever, we're going to try to get him.
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  He's trying to rehabilitate me. Which will cost a lot of money.
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  So do become a channel member. We do weekly numbers only
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  videos. It's OK, I might have to shut it
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  down if I get in a relationship so.
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  Well, we then it will stay open for a long time.
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  The same thing about. Worrying about a guy instead of
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  your own kids, yes. I don't know.
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  We'll see. Yeah, we will.
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  It's been like 4 days. It's been a week.
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  Wow. And I'm starting to, I'm
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  starting to celebrate. Your week, adversary.
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  I'm starting to spiral and feel a little manic because when you
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  first start dating someone it makes like I expect a lot and I
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  have to calm myself down because I like have severe attachment
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  issues. Like almost bought a car today
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  and you told us you wanted to buy a car for what reason?
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  So I could film OK, go and walk, go to my YouTube channel and
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  watch my video, my Q&A video that I posted.
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  Last, they're not not a single person watching this is going to
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  go through this process and agree with you.
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  He wants to buy a new car. He has no car right now because
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  he just got rid of his car a few months ago.
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  They didn't need it. Save money because he didn't
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  need it. Not to save money just because I
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  didn't need it. OK to record tik toks in it.
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  Not tik toks and YouTube videos and all those stuff because the
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  vibe and the lighting in a car is so good and I would buy it
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  through my business. It's crazy buying a car just to
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  film. Yes, one video every three.
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  Months. Anyways, what was I going to
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  say? You missed that shade.
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  Become a channel member if you haven't yet.
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  That was a long OH. I just have attachment issues so
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  I'm trying to distract myself and actually you guys help me
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  out. I'm sorry.
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  I'm kind of bored so I don't know if I should keep dating
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  other people because I'm feeling manic to distract myself from
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  hyper fixating on the one guy. So but it's going very well with
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  him. But we're not exclusive.
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  So I there's other there's like another guy who invited me to go
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  to a run club tomorrow. OK, but going to a run club
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  doesn't involve anything. Yeah, but like we met on Tinder
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  and. Like just do it just.
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  To he's my tie, you're. Like if I meet up with him, I
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  know, yeah, getting my backbone. No, no, he's club.
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  No, I'm not going to get backflow, not run club.
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  Who do you think I am? Sure, Jan.
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  I guess I should just keep my options open or should I live by
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  the values that I want in my partner and just go with the
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  flow and trust the process? I don't know.
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  Delulu is the Solulu. That's not the solution here.
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  So I want you to read this post by the photographer who
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  photographed Ethel Kane for the shoot.
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  And is it defending this you? Please read this for everyone.
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  On April 1st, 2026, I photographed Hayden and Hedonia.
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  That's, I guess, Ethel Kane's real name.
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  Nude in her home, she posted these images uncensored hours
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  later to her 1.1 million followers.
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  The reaction that followed was the most intense of anything
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  we've ever done. Death threats.
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  Magazine articles, sincere messages from young trans women
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  telling us how we've made history.
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  But like, not in a good way. And of course, we don't support
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  death threats so much. Yeah, yeah.
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  Every day that passes, trans people in this country lose more
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  and more rights. This is a statement on trans
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  rights. It's a statement on women's
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  rights, a statement on censorship.
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  I'm saying. This is a statement on women's
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  rights is kind of. You posted pics to your
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  Instagram and you're saying this is a statement on women's
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  rights? Yeah, this is really annoying
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  when they conflate trans rights to women's rights because the
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  two are at odds with each other very often.
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  And like women, you women can make the argument that they
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  shouldn't have trans women in their prisons.
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  Like that's a very valid argument.
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  So to conflate the two is just really manipulative.
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  It's like when they added on, I'm sure we're going to do that
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  story. The Indigenous.
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  Oh yes. We, I, we got that.
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  By password it's the same thing. It's like they just add on
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  different groups to force allyship when sometimes it's
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  actually not beneficial. All right, I interrupted you.
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  Why don't you just read that? The end of this?
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  Where was I reading from? This is women.
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  Every day that passes, trans people in this country lose more
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  of our rights. This.
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  Oh, there's a statement on women's rights.
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  This is a statement on censorship.
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  Censorship. You literally didn't get
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  censored when you probably should have.
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  Yeah, but simply, this is an intimate photograph of a friend
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  I love so deeply and who inspires me everyday.
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  This is a statement on censorship.
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  Are you really arguing that full nude photos should be allowed on
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  Instagram? Like that's the type of
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  censorship that you guys are worried about?
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  I'm confused. So.
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  I looked at Instagram's terms of service because I was curious
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  and they don't allow nudity but there's a couple exceptions, one
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  being for like art and like sculptures and things.
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  So if Ethel, if a trans person does it, it's art, but when I do
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  it. Your your account gets taken
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  down right? Right.
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  That's literally it. Or they say that you can also
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  they have an exception for like protest.
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  So I guess this would maybe? Did they carve that out for this
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  reason? These looked like they predated
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  this but I think it's crazy. I just think you should not be
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  able to post literal nudity. I'm not a prude.
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  Like I don't think that like I think I, I, I fall more on like
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  the European mindset when it comes to to nudity.
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  But I think that it only works in Europe because they are
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  conditioned to not think it's a big deal.
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  But in America, that's not how things work.
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  It is the way it is. I I kind of agree with you that
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  like an American, nudity is. It's like a big it's yeah.
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  That's just how it is. So then you can't just operate
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  without that in mind. Right now I'm going to play with
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  TikTok about a trans woman explaining why this is actually
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  great and she wants to see more Bean and Frank on and this is
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  TikTok had 100,000 likes. My tummy hurts.
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  OK, we'll we'll finish this video.
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  No, I'm not going to go to the bath.
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  I don't poop in public places or in press houses.
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  My house is a public place. I'm not What's wrong?
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  With my I'm not going to go have water run out of my booty
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  because I drank too much this weekend.
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  I do. It all the time.
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  You're drinking and have you listen because when we were on
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  live on the drunk live, I can. Hear the.
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  Peeing. Imagine you can hear me peeing
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  out of my butt. I don't want to hear the
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  comments. I don't want to hear all of the
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  side comments he's going to make on the show.
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  I'm going to. I'm going to let my bubble gums
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  just rest Ethel. Canes Boston baked beans on my
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  Instagram feed. Let's talk about it now.
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  Coming off of my post yesterday about conservative Sissy cross
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  dresser husband's I feel a lot of you may think that I don't
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  love sex, that I don't like Eroticism.
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  That is not true. I actually love sex and
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  Eroticism. I'm just very picky about what I
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  endorse and I'm very critical of it.
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  I consider myself a gatekeeper of what is and is not erotic.
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  That being said, I don't really think this was that at all.
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  I think the choice to have titties covered beans out was
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  kind of beautiful. I was really excited to be
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  introduced a little Willoughby, especially on Trans day of
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  visibility Next day. Next year, Trans Day of
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  visibility, I would like to see more bottom growth on my feed.
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  And I also think this is a natural progression from the
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  white trans feminine urge to post titties on Twitter after
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  two years of being on hormones. And don't get me wrong, I love
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  all of your mosquito bites, but I'm excited that we're moving
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  forward. And I think this kind of
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  transgender full frontal is a natural progression into the
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  time that we're going into. I think club music is getting
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  better if you know where to look, and I think we're all
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  getting more erotic because we've been so stifled and things
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  are getting very conservative and we're reacting to that fact.
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  So I would say more beans, please pass the beans.
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  Thank you. You know, I normally I've seen
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  this creator and I actually kind of like a lot of her content so
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  that. This was my first introduction
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  to this. Yeah, so that kind of hurts, but
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  like, I do appreciate that she acknowledged that.
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  She said she believes she is a gatekeeper of what is exotic and
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  what isn't. So she's like, you know what?
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  This is my opinion, and I really don't care because it kind of
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  reminds me of me calling myself a tyrant.
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  It's the same mentality. We just disagree.
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  But like, logically speaking, that doesn't really make any
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  sense. I don't know.
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  I just think that like, there is a form of protest that is a
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  little bit more sexual specifically for the
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  conservative type of person who's like Pearl clutching
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  everything but balls out on Instagram.
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  I just don't think that has this like revolutionary effect that
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  people think it does. I don't know.
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  I just don't see it. But now I'm conflicted because
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  it's like Twitter allows nudity. But that's part of the terms of
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  service, that people know what they're signing up for.
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  People don't know what they think.
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  That's one reason why people don't let their kids have
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  Twitter. Yeah, like I would never let my
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  kids have Twitter. Yeah, exactly.
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  It's like that's part of the problem here is the the venue
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  and platform. And I honestly like basically no
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  one really wants probably 2% of people who saw that wanted to
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  see that. So you're just you know what the
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  best way to increase trans rights on trans a visibility is
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  to forcibly flash millions of. Yeah, I also think like a better
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  way. I don't.
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  I'm conflicted again because like pride became a little bit
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  outlandish a little bit. Well, now it is, but I'm talking
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  like in the 2000s. And stuff like that.
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  And I'm not going to say that that didn't help like silence
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  the Pearl clutchers and make them look like a little bit
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  pathetic. I think that helped in like the
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  public perception of pride is to silence that group and make them
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  seem like but I. Think they took it in the other.
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  But then they took it too far. And like the kink and pup gear,
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  which you all know I love a pup gear, I love a.
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  Furry. Oh yeah, I have screenshots.
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  Oh my. God, it's a joke.
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  He sent me a video of a muscle furry and I'm like, oh, so
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  that's on your algorithm. Only because I sent it to
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  people. And then I got mad at him
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  because he's infecting my algorithm by sending me pup
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  stuff. I don't want to see that
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  anyways. I just don't know if this has
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  the desired effect that they think it does.
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  I think they think they're they're doing their big one and
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  they are in fact. Doing a little one big balls
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  though. Yikes, Yikes.
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  All right. I'm also the one who said I want
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  to see more bottom growth on main.
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  No, thank you. I don't know what that means.
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  Don't look it. Up bottom growth do.
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  I do I have to explain it? Why do you know this and I
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  don't? Because I.
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  Just know a lot about the trans stuff from.
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  Bottom growth. It's the clitoris when you take
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  testosterone as a Natal female grows larger.
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  Got it. Actual.
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  Bean. Oh God.
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  Flame Lima bean. I don't want to think about that
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  I. Don't really like Lima beans,
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  actually, no. You know what that soup is?
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  There's this soup from like New England or something.
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  Brunswick Stew. Have you ever had that?
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  Oh, Brunswick Stew? I haven't had that in so long.
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  Oh, it's so good. But that has Lima beans in it
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  and I I don't mind them in that. OK guys, let's know what you let
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  us know what you think in the comments.
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  Make sure to subscribe if you hit the like button and all that
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  and do because instead of becoming a channel member, if we
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  get enough, maybe one day Clarkson will stop being a yeah
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  or a sexual. Worker, I'm not a.
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  Well. There's not.
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  Like you're, but you're also not.
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  Like totally not. No, I would say that I'm a man
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  in his 20s, a straight man, and a single straight man in his 20s
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  is getting more poon than I am. Oh, but I was talking about your
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  OF oh. Yeah, I do have one of those.
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  Yeah, I wasn't talking about that because yeah, that's
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  actually an interesting point. Someone pointed out that on I I
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  this was on Twitter or something, they were like gay
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  men. Gay and by men aren't
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  hypersexual, they're just lucky and most men would do that if
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  they. Could the only reason straight
• 18:03
  men like gay culture is just male culture?
• 18:05
  That's all it is to like, it's it's well, yeah.
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  But like, the reason it's different and the dating is
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  different is because men and women.
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  It's Women are the natural. Yeah, they are the gatekeepers
• 18:17
  of sex. Yeah.
• 18:19
  So then if both men what like that's just what it's, there's
• 18:23
  really no saving it. And that's like the most
• 18:24
  depressing. That's why it's not about being
• 18:26
  gay or same sex because like women are.
• 18:28
  And it's about men. Lesbians are the opposite.
• 18:30
  Yes, it's about men. Yeah, so men are the.
• 18:33
  And honestly, I like to test it, which is why I wish that I was
• 18:35
  straight. Oh my God, you, you're so happy
• 18:38
  about the Supreme Court ruling because you're like, finally I
• 18:40
  can drag in the. Then I go to conversion therapy.
• 18:42
  But it's just you watching Bonnie Blue Tapes.
• 18:46
  That would work now. No, because I want to marry her.
• 18:50
  I don't think pornography would do it for me.
• 18:53
  I still think that you should interview her.
• 18:57
  Send her Adm on my behalf. Why do I pretend to be my
• 19:00
  manager? Oh no, I'm you're, you're my
• 19:03
  employee. No, no, no, no.
• 19:06
  I don't work for anybody. Well, you work for your.
• 19:09
  I work for myself. What do you call your people
• 19:12
  that subscribe to you? Your patrons.
• 19:16
  I should have a name for them, yeah.
• 19:19
  I don't know, thirsty? Oh, I don't know some.
• 19:24
  Of them are normies. I know I got a message from a
• 19:27
  couple of you guys yesterday y'all are making jokes about and
• 19:30
  I'm like we don't need to intersect with us.
• 19:32
  And if you are going to then I should get a cut.
• 19:34
  And now I'm not giving you, well, actually, no, you we
• 19:38
  talked about this because he made this joke earlier.
• 19:40
  And I said, that's fine, I can give you a cut.
• 19:42
  But then you have to go on record in all of your debates
• 19:44
  and everywhere you go, just like Andrew Tate, and say that you
• 19:46
  make money from sexual work. And he would have to admit that,
• 19:50
  but I just cuz what's that guy who said he's like, I don't
• 19:53
  believe in it, but I don't believe in it off of it.
• 19:55
  Yeah, Yeah. But also that wouldn't be
• 19:59
  inconsistent because like, I've never said it should be banned
• 20:01
  or that it's evil or anything like that.
• 20:03
  Really. No, you haven't.
• 20:05
  That is one thing that you haven't done.
• 20:07
  Yeah. Well, you've said that you
• 20:08
  disagree with it on like a individual level, like you
• 20:12
  wouldn't do it. Yeah, for me.
• 20:14
  Yeah, that didn't. That means disagreement.
• 20:17
  Yeah, but but I'm not, it's a little more elevated the
• 20:20
  hypocrisy for the people that like rail against yeah and then
• 20:24
  are profiting off of it. Whereas if somebody's just like,
• 20:26
  oh, personally I'm not, I would never do that.
• 20:30
  Yeah, I mean, I agree it would still be.
• 20:32
  Hypocritical. You wouldn't want.
• 20:33
  You wouldn't want to have that on your record.
• 20:35
  No, absolutely not. Did I tell you what happened
• 20:38
  with one of his grandparents was here and asked what Clarkson
• 20:43
  does for a. Living.
• 20:44
  And of course, he told old little gramps he goes, hey
• 20:48
  granny, he's selling pictures of his bulge.
• 20:51
  Well, I, I told her, oh, she was like, is this his full time job
• 20:54
  just doing this podcast with you?
• 20:55
  Because he came over multiple times while she was here to
• 20:57
  film. And I was like, no, I mean, we
• 20:59
  make a decent side income from it, but that's not his full
• 21:02
  time. And she goes, what is?
• 21:04
  And I go, so there's this site called Onlyfans.
• 21:08
  Have you ever heard of it? And she goes no and and and I'm
• 21:11
  like she's like what is it? And I'm like.
• 21:14
  Poor, poor granny, I'm going to give her a heart attack.
• 21:16
  Hey, and and then you post X-rated content and she goes.
• 21:20
  I can't believe he told her. Oh, then she goes.
• 21:23
  This is the she's like. I shook his hand.
• 21:26
  She go the diabolical part, she goes, Do you do that too?
• 21:31
  I'm like. No.
• 21:32
  Oh, poor, poor Granny. Granny, did you sob?
• 21:37
  Be honest. She wouldn't know how to, and
• 21:39
  she would ever would. You know that she put those
• 21:41
  reading glasses on and said how to sub to Clark's OF.
• 21:47
  Oh my God. Typing just like.
• 21:49
  That anyway, that was a thing that happened, Yeah.
• 21:52
  Make sure to subscribe. You could have just said he has
• 21:54
  a, he makes his own content, but he felt the need to.
• 21:58
  Tell his. 500 year old grandmother who looks beautiful
• 22:01
  by the way that I sell pictures. Why are you ashamed of it?
• 22:06
  I'm not ashamed. And what?
• 22:07
  I just don't know why you would think that.
• 22:10
  I thought it'd be funny and well, then she ate me up with
• 22:12
  the Do you do it as well? So she it's because you're gay,
• 22:17
  she just assumes you're a whore. That's just.
• 22:20
  All right, guys. Like, comment, subscribe, yada
• 22:22
  yada. Yeah.