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Halloween Week: 3 Urban Legends v2 · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Three terrifying days have already passed, and we have four
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  Speaker 1: more to go still, So please join us here on
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  Speaker 1: Halloween Week with Wicked and Grim. My name is Jacko,
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  Speaker 1: and I will continue to be your master of ceremonies
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  Speaker 1: for the remaining four days, but we are going to
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  Speaker 1: go past just the seven day tradition and continue the
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  Speaker 1: urban legends. Last year we had three urban legends.
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  Speaker 2: Two true and one false. Were you able to hell
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  Speaker 2: which was which? This year we have too false and
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  Speaker 2: one true. Again, will you be able to tell the difference?
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  Speaker 2: Can you make the call which is truth and which
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  Speaker 2: is nearly legend? To bring us these cases, I must
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  Speaker 2: first introduce your hosts. So, without further ado, introducing Ben
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  Speaker 2: and Nicole.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back to Halloween Week.
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  Speaker 4: My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to
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  Speaker 4: Wicked and Grim.
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  Speaker 3: A true crime podcast. I need this drink today.
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  Speaker 4: Ah yeah, this is an earned drink today.
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  Speaker 3: Prior to it was just indulging. Today, it was like, no,
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  Speaker 3: I kind of need a fucking drink.
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  Speaker 5: Today was a day we broke the Internet.
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  Speaker 3: Today we did that was something to put it in
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  Speaker 3: any way, shape or form.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it was very minor but it was unexpected.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so we released finally our mugs.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, are artisan black pottery mugs.
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  Speaker 5: Let's say stay wicked.
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  Speaker 3: So they say stay wicked on it. We finally released them.
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  Speaker 3: We have a total of thirty made. We kept one
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  Speaker 3: and we gave another one away in a giveaway, So
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  Speaker 3: twenty eight went up for sale on our Etsy page.
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  Speaker 5: Today, our brand new Etsy page.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, never sold anything on it before, so it was
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a shit show getting things started on there.
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  Speaker 3: And then when we finally got it up, we're like,
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  Speaker 3: we announced it in Patreon and on Instagram and on Facebook.
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  Speaker 3: We're like, they're live.
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  Speaker 4: Boom, go grab one, yeah, go snag one.
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  Speaker 3: They went so fast, so fast, I think.
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  Speaker 5: It was eleven eleven sold in about a minute.
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  Speaker 3: And Etsy stepped in and cut us off and suspended
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  Speaker 3: our account because of suspicious behavior because a brand new
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  Speaker 3: account was selling shit way too fucking fast.
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  Speaker 5: So wait, yeah, what the heck? Why stomp on our
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  Speaker 5: is it stomp on our parade? Does that?
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  Speaker 4: What?
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  Speaker 3: Rain on our parade?
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  Speaker 4: Rain on our parade? Like, come on, just because we're awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we currently have seventeen mugs in limbo eleven
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  Speaker 3: sold and we are in works with Etsy. We've been
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  Speaker 3: emailing them and they're going through an investigation to ensure
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  Speaker 3: that we're not doing anything wrong.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, so we will be able to sell those remaining
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  Speaker 4: mugs at some point.
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  Speaker 3: We just don't know when Ettsy's gonna get added to us.
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  Speaker 4: But the thing is like, at one point I looked
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  Speaker 4: in there and there was probably like twenty people that
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  Speaker 4: had them in their carts, Like, so it would have
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  Speaker 4: they would have sold out, and like, I bet you
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  Speaker 4: a manner of five minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Oh easy.
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  Speaker 4: So we will also be ordering more mugs.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, there will be more mugs, so don't worry if
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  Speaker 3: you don't get these.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I remember when we went to order these ben Bens,
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  Speaker 4: like should we get like ten?
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  Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that might be a little low.
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  Speaker 4: So we said it on thirty. Yeah that wasn't enough either.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, there will be more mugs to come. Don't
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  Speaker 3: worry about it. We'll get it worked out with Etsy
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  Speaker 3: one way or another. If we don't, maybe we need
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  Speaker 3: to get our website into an e commerce mode. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. We got to figure it out.
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  Speaker 5: We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: But honestly, you guys are awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so thank you for helping to get our Etsy
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  Speaker 3: page suspended.
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  Speaker 4: You continue to blow our minds with your support.
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  Speaker 3: So guys are wicked.
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  Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, every time we do something, I'm like, h like
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  Speaker 4: this will go all right, and then it just wow,
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  Speaker 4: like wow wow. Yeah, So honestly, thank you. We're going
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  Speaker 4: to get this fixed. We'll communicate as best we can,
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  Speaker 4: and we'll order some more mugs.
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  Speaker 3: There we go. Yeah, and want to know what else
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna do?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, is this moch today's episode?
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  Speaker 3: It is?
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  Speaker 5: I am pumped?
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  Speaker 3: You're pumped? Why you pumped?
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  Speaker 4: This was literally one of my favorites from last Halloween week?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but I got to say, next year, you have
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  Speaker 3: to be the one to do the research. I want
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  Speaker 3: to guess.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's too fun guessing. This is your tradition. It's
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  Speaker 4: your tradition to do this episode.
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  Speaker 3: That's bullshit, malarkey.
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  Speaker 5: We'll talk, we'll talk. Maybe we'll have to do.
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  Speaker 3: Two okay, yeah, well we'll figure that out. But last
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  Speaker 3: year we did too true and one false, and this
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  Speaker 3: year we're doing too false and one true. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: it's up to you to figure out which is which.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea how I did last year, I
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  Speaker 4: should have listened to that. I have no idea. I
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  Speaker 4: probably didn't. I know I didn't get them both that I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't think you got the true one or the false one.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 4: So this year we're doing okay, two it.
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  Speaker 5: Is this year.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, last year, I don't think you succeeded. I think
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  Speaker 3: you managed to guess one correctly. I think if I
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  Speaker 3: remember right, this year, just ignore the rest of it.
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  Speaker 5: Now, Yep, we're clean Slaton this year.
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  Speaker 3: Two false, one true.
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  Speaker 4: Two false, one true. I mean I think last year
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  Speaker 4: that they're all fucking false, So maybe this will be easier.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this year you have to figure out which
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  Speaker 3: one is true.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, we got our we got like, let's do this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not just me, it's all of us here,
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  Speaker 4: So okay.
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  Speaker 3: So we're gonna start off here. And I'm not telling
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  Speaker 3: you any sort of title of these cases, okay, especially
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  Speaker 3: primarily because anyone out there listening can be like.
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  Speaker 5: Oh Google, real quick, good old Google.
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  Speaker 3: So this is to mostly help prevent you guys from
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  Speaker 3: doing that and actually use you knocking a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, it's fun this is fun.
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  Speaker 3: Even though I'm pretty sure you can quickly figure it
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  Speaker 3: out and google it still, but.
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  Speaker 5: No google, no, no all out. That's rule number one.
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  Speaker 3: And rule number two. Nicole is doing this next year. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: First of all, I need to take sip.
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  Speaker 5: There you go. That was more like a chug.
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  Speaker 3: That was a big zip. Okay, Before, before the time
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  Speaker 3: of big chain stores and online shopping, people needed a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more creativity when it came to things like
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  Speaker 3: Halloween and their costumes.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, yep, it's fair. Now.
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  Speaker 3: There were no stores to go buy a Super Mario costume.
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  Speaker 3: There is no butterfly wings you can go pick up
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  Speaker 3: off the shelf to be you know, that Faerry or
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  Speaker 3: whatever you want to do for your costume. Instead, people
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  Speaker 3: would throw together what they had available in their closets
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  Speaker 3: and mix together with a few homemade items and be
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  Speaker 3: as resourceful as they could and you know, make things
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  Speaker 3: out of like paper mache for.
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  Speaker 5: Example, which I altant to kind of love.
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  Speaker 3: Right. It really makes the Halloween a lot different rather
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  Speaker 3: than I'm just going to go grab fifty bucks and
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  Speaker 3: see what's left on the shelf. So in nineteen sixty two,
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  Speaker 3: this is exactly how Halloween looked okay, And in nineteen
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  Speaker 3: sixty two, in a very small town in the United States,
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  Speaker 3: they were gearing up for Halloween night. The sun was
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  Speaker 3: slowly dipping out down over the horizon, and due to
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  Speaker 3: the age of the individuals in this case, most of
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  Speaker 3: the names have been kept quiet and as quiet as possible.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm going to continue to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So this girl in the case, the main one, We're
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  Speaker 3: going to call her Marla.
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  Speaker 5: Marla.
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  Speaker 3: Marla was fifteen years old and getting prepped for Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: She was getting ready to throw a Halloween party with
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of friends from school. So Marla lived with
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  Speaker 3: her dad, who was a heavy drinker and he worked
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  Speaker 3: out at camp as a tree feller, so he was
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  Speaker 3: away for Halloween, and Marla's mother had moved away with
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  Speaker 3: her new husband, so she was essentially home alone for
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  Speaker 3: the night, which gave her the complete ability to throw
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  Speaker 3: a Halloween party at the age of fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: Yikes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Marla knew exactly where her dad stashed all
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  Speaker 3: his alcohol. Yikes again, under his bed, in the toolbox
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  Speaker 3: in the shed out back, and even behind an old
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  Speaker 3: air duct that was located under the floorboards in the basement.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Okay, well she's very observant.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she gathered up as much as she could
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  Speaker 3: without being suspicious and got ready for the night with
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  Speaker 3: her friends. Slowly they began arriving, all dressed up in
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  Speaker 3: their homemade costumes, dinning, sorry, donning paper mache masks, burlap hoods,
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  Speaker 3: and even some clown makeup, all in this old fashioned style,
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  Speaker 3: nothing you'd find bought off the Walmart type shelf.
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  Speaker 4: I'm honestly loving the visual going on in my head
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  Speaker 4: right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it was like it was a cool little party
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  Speaker 3: sort of thing. It seemed like right, and it was
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  Speaker 3: the whole like regular teenage rowdiness that occurred. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they went like cruising, because that was the thing that
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  Speaker 3: happened that time.
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  Speaker 5: Cruising, cruising.
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  Speaker 4: Oh as they're also drink consuming alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the sixties.
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  Speaker 5: I know, this is the sixties.
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  Speaker 3: So they were like kind of partying at the house.
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  Speaker 3: Some would go cruise, they'd kind of come back sort
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  Speaker 3: of thing, right, Okay, And apparently they even went out
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  Speaker 3: while they were cruising and they threw water grenades at
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  Speaker 3: neighborhood mailboxes. And water grenades were apparently a specific brand
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  Speaker 3: at the time. Nowadays everyone calls him, of course water balloons.
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  Speaker 3: Oh okay, so yeah, I guess that brand was Ellington's
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  Speaker 3: water Grenades. So some trick or treaters, of course did
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  Speaker 3: stop by during the evening, and by about nine to
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  Speaker 3: thirty pm, the trick or treaters kind of you know,
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  Speaker 3: dwindled down right, but by now the house was packed
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  Speaker 3: with about twenty or so people. One of the boys,
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  Speaker 3: who we will call Tommy, brought his new polaroid camera
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  Speaker 3: and decided he was going to take a group photo
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  Speaker 3: of everybody nice. So they all piled around and took
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  Speaker 3: a snapshot together, but no one realized how important this
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  Speaker 3: photograph would be later on.
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  Speaker 5: Uh oh uh oh.
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  Speaker 3: As the evening went on, more and more drinks were
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  Speaker 3: consumed and things got a little fuzzy. Someone later described
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  Speaker 3: vaguely remembering a window being propped open with a piece
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  Speaker 3: of wood from the outside, but never really thought much
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  Speaker 3: of it and kind of brushed it off and continued
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  Speaker 3: to have fun. The night went on, and then around
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  Speaker 3: midnight all hell broke loose inside the house. A scream
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  Speaker 3: was heard from down the hall in the house as
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  Speaker 3: someone came running from a bedroom with someone chasing them
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  Speaker 3: with a butcher knife.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: They caught up to him quickly plunged the knife into
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  Speaker 3: their back and everyone panicked.
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  Speaker 4: Oh wow, that is a scene.
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  Speaker 3: They all ran for the nearest door to escape, but
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  Speaker 3: the doors were locked and no one could get out.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, this is like a horror movie.
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  Speaker 3: The person stood up after killing the first individual, and
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  Speaker 3: they had a black hood with black fabric draped across
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  Speaker 3: their face. Okay, they couldn't be seen they or sorry,
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  Speaker 3: no one could see who they were. Couldn't see their face.
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  Speaker 3: Panic continued as these fifteen year old kids slammed onto
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  Speaker 3: the doors trying to frantically escape the house. However they couldn't.
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  Speaker 3: A total of seven people were killed wow with stab
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  Speaker 3: wounds and cutthroats that night, and two were injured with
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  Speaker 3: minor injuries. Marla was one of the victims who lost
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  Speaker 3: their life.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Now the killer only took out seven individuals because he
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  Speaker 3: had to get away before the police had arrived. And
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  Speaker 3: that's exactly what he did. He had that window that
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  Speaker 3: was propped open. Everything else was locked, but that window
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  Speaker 3: that he took advantage.
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  Speaker 4: So he was planning this, Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So they escaped out the back window, and that's it.
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  Speaker 3: No one knew who this was. After multiple days of
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  Speaker 3: questioning with the police, no one was able to identify
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  Speaker 3: who this black clad individual was. Everyone thought it was
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  Speaker 3: someone else's friend who came to the party with them,
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  Speaker 3: But yet no one recalls seeing this individual actually arrive
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  Speaker 3: at the party either.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I was thinking it wasn't someone that was
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  Speaker 4: at the party.
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  Speaker 3: The only evidence any police were able to recover was
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  Speaker 3: the single polaroid photo of the entire group. Now wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be until about nineteen sixty nine that any more evidence
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  Speaker 3: would be found, and that evidence was found in a
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  Speaker 3: wooded area near Marla's house. She lived not too far
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  Speaker 3: away from this area, and it was right where the
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  Speaker 3: party occurred, and they found the black hood oh mask
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  Speaker 3: and the same fabric.
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  Speaker 5: One quite a few years later.
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  Speaker 3: Then seven years later, my goodness, it was found deteriorated
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  Speaker 3: and discarded, but no one was still able to be
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  Speaker 3: identified to this day, and the whole case remains a mystery.
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  Speaker 5: Huh.
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  Speaker 3: Now, I'm gonna pull up the actual polaroid for you
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  Speaker 3: so you can see it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, and I already have a question. Okay, I'm doing one.
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  Speaker 3: True right, one true, and two false.
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  Speaker 4: Ye Okay, I already have my thoughts on this one.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to say because it could
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  Speaker 4: change though after I hear the other ones.
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  Speaker 3: So you can see there's the polaroid and you can
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  Speaker 3: see the black clad individual dead center.
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  Speaker 4: Huh wow, that's the actually like the most haunting photo
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  Speaker 4: I think I've ever seen in my life.
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  Speaker 5: Right, it's terrifying.
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like an executioner's kind of hood with like
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  Speaker 3: the eyes and mouth cut out, but it's a complete
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  Speaker 3: black mask otherwise, So that is tail number one. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: where's your stance on that? Let's hear it.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying them until the end.
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  Speaker 3: What that's no fun because you're I want because you
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  Speaker 3: might change your mind. I want to hear you as
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  Speaker 3: you process.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, well, I'm thinking this one is false.
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  Speaker 3: You're thinking this one's like why are you thinking?
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  Speaker 5: Actually?
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  Speaker 4: Because this seems like a pretty big deal of a
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  Speaker 4: case and I have never heard of it, and I
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  Speaker 4: would be very surprised if that was legit and that
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  Speaker 4: I had never heard of it. Okay, I mean because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of times you search like abnormal cases or
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  Speaker 4: like Halloween cases, and I just have never come across
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  Speaker 4: this one, so I'm I'm going with false.
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough, Okay, Okay, so what about the picture?
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  Speaker 4: Then, Well, the fact that you showed me the picture
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  Speaker 4: does fuck me up a little. So that's why I
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna wait until I hear the other
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  Speaker 4: ones that now you're making me safe. But I'm still
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  Speaker 4: gonna go with false because that photo kind of doesn't
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  Speaker 4: seem a.
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  Speaker 3: Legit to me in which way.
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  Speaker 4: I think that that costume or that person could have
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: been like photoshopped in there. Okay, you know that you
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: can do a lot with photoshop.
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  Speaker 5: I know this.
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  Speaker 3: Clearly because you are a photographer who deals with photoshops.
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  Speaker 5: On a daily basis.
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  Speaker 3: So gotcha. Okay, So the second case, you ready for it?
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  Speaker 4: Then yes, I'm ready to roll.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. So we're gonna go back and we're going to
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: talk about a classic film for this one.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So we're talking about the amazingly film produced by MGM,
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  Speaker 3: which is timeless, The Wizard of Oz.
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  Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, the revolutionary color picture has the amazing makeup, the
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  Speaker 3: crazy sets and all of it. You name it, it's
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  Speaker 3: got it. It was an amazing movie. It was beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: but it's got some dark secrets and some dark tails
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  Speaker 3: behind it. For example, the tin Man reportedly had severe
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  Speaker 3: lead poisoning from the lead based paint that he had
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  Speaker 3: pasted all over his skin from every day of filming.
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  Speaker 5: That's brutal.
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  Speaker 3: The Cowardly Lion was on the edge of having heat
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  Speaker 3: stroke every moment when he was suited up and reportedly
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  Speaker 3: collapsed often and couldn't eat or drink properly due to
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  Speaker 3: his makeup.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And the Wicked Witch who received severe burns from performing
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  Speaker 3: a stunt involving pyrotechnics as she dropped through a trap
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  Speaker 3: door in the set to make it seem as she
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  Speaker 3: disappeared in the smoke.
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  Speaker 5: Holy shit.
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  Speaker 3: So we won't be covering any of those stories today,
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  Speaker 3: whether those are true or false. However, these are things
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  Speaker 3: that have reportedly occurred on this movie set.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, and what year was that movie or filmed? Do
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  Speaker 5: you have that?
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I thought i'd put it in here, but I don't
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: think I do have it in here.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: Now sho Google search A quick Google search.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't believe it. I didn't put the date
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: in there, and though he was looking it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Could be around.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: I have no idea could be around that same time
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: as the first one.
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: Or oh no, it was earlier than that. It was
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: in like the forties I think. Okay, nineteen thirty nine.
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: There we go, okay, wow, yeah, so this is like
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: WCB and shit.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Work Safe BC? Yeah yeah, so yeah.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Because yeah, you could never get away with that kind
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: of shit nowadays.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: No, and WCB and rightfully so yes, WCB just for
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: you guys out there, that's the because we're in British Columbia.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: It's the governing body for safety in British Columbia.
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, is that just a BC thing?
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I don't work safe British Columbia. Oh duh, No, most
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: people deal with OSHA. Okay, yeah, Occupational Safety and Health Association.
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: What is Nicole saying?
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: Pretty much? I know these things because I'm a safety go.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: You're a safety man.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So anyways, back onto this, we digress. We're not
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: going to be covering any of those cases, but we
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: are going to be tallalking about something, and it is
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that there was apparently a suicide that occurred on set, okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: and how that suicide kind of came to light. It's
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: kind of fucked up. So apparently the individual's corpse was
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: accidentally left in a shot and then put into the
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: final product of the film.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Ohly, shit, that's terrible.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: So you watch the film, you can see someone's deceased
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: corpse who had committed suicide.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we're watching The Wizard of Oz later, like
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: I need to see that.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Well, the scene in question is at the very end
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: of the tin Man sequence. It says Dorothy and the
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Scarecrow and the tin Men are headed down the yellow
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Brick Road to head towards the Emerald City. Okay, However,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: as they march off down the infamous brick Road, in
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: the far background of the set, it shows a dark
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: and dimly lit wooded area. Now, if you look closely
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: between the trees, there is a silhouetted figure that can
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: be seen, and that silhouette appears to be a little
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: person who played one of the roles of the Munchkins
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: in the film, and they are hanging by the neck
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: and swinging lightly back and forth in the trees.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, I just have to say, if that's true, that's terrible. Yeah,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: And like, did they not think to just like re
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: record or they just it wasn't noted.
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: They didn't realize until it was already released.
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: Well, did they not find this person or they just
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: didn't realize it was in the shot?
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Didn't realize it was in the shot?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: So the claim is exactly that a person had committed
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: suicide on set to do to the harsh conditions that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: we had already mentioned, and it drove them into depression
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: and other mental health issues, maybe even things that they
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: had it going on at home too, But they decided
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: it was too much and they took their life on
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: on the set moments before the camera crew filmed the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: shot that would infamously be memorialized.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So MGM denied anyone ever committing suicide or dying on set,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: and has since digitally removed the silhouette from newly released films.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, So can you not even find this then?
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Or it's probably on the internet something?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can. You can watch it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: You can find anything on the interweb.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: It's on YouTube. And just so you know, I don't
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: know if this are you.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: Gonna fucking show me photos and shit of everyone so
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: that I'm just like a fish out of water here.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: There's only photos of two. The other one's too old.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: Wow, that's brutal.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: Hum hmm, Okay, I just think of this one's true.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: That's just terrible. I mean, god, the fucking other one's
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: terrible too.
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: So I don't know.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: This is just fun, This is actually fun. I'm enjoying this.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Remember there's only one true one set.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: I know I already have my thought on this one.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: What's your thought on this one?
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: False?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Why do you think it's false?
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I know the Wizard of Oz was fucked, like I've
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: heard you hear some shit from that movie, like it
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: was not good. But I think that I could change this.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: But I think that you're doing this one as a
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: throwing us off. Everyone knows that the Wizard of Oz
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: was recorded or was it was terrible working conditions. So
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: I think you're putting this one in there and being like, Okay, yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: it was terrible working conditions.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: But I think you're just throwing us off and it's false. Okay,
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that's my thought because I feel like you would do that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, what if I showed you the video of the market.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Are you up for that?
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: I'm up for that, But like, what are you doing
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: to me.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm about I'm trying to show present the evidence here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to make sure that I show everything and
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: as real of a light as I can.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I have all the facts, so the next one, I
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: guess in my opinion has to be true.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: We'll see. I could change. I'm allowed to change my answers, right.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Yes, I'm just trying to get your thought process through
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: this whole thing. Nothing is solidified until the very end
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: when you make your call. Okay, Okay, I'm just going
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to bring this up here.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: But I do think this is terribly sad. If this
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, gosh, yeah, they're all gonna be sad. Okay,
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: is this playing it is?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: You see it?
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: I do? Wow?
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: I just think that would be.
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: Something hard to or that that would be noticed too
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: in the editing. But I mean, I guess they didn't
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: really have like the eye or the techniques or stuff
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: that we do nowadays. Man, that throws me off. That
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: throws me for a little bit of a loop there. Okay,
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: But like, honestly, if this is false, if this is
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: what am I seeing, Okay, I said this was false.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Oh no, now, I'm okay.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: If this is false, someone actually went to the trouble
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: of doing that, like, I don't know now, I'm let's see,
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: I'm it's a roller coaster. I'm spiraling. I'm sticking to
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: false right now, sticking to false on it. So I've
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: said both are false.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, So we'll see if you think false or true
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: on this one then Okay, Okay, let's go. So this
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: one takes us back before there is photographic evidence. Okay,
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: this one takes us back into the eighteen hundreds. So
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: on the night of February eighth and ninth, so in between,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: like you know, the night of February eighth and February ninth,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: the evening between. Okay, yeah, so that evening in eighteen
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: fifty five, Okay, a heavy snowfall occurred in Devon, which
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: is a small county in southwest England.
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, so far this seems legit.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: The snow blanketed the house and roads, making for a nice, quiet,
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: dream like world. Up here in Canada, we know what
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: we know that feeling. Often when you get that nice
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: heavy snowfall, everything seems so quiet and it.
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: Can okay, it can look pretty, it can look pretty,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: but it also sucks.
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: But like acoustically because that snow absorbed so much sound.
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: It's just beautifully peaceful.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: And it's just everything is like white and clean, and
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: you know, I know, yeah, the one the first snowfall,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: or not the first, but the one, big dump can
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: look beautiful. Big dump, rec dumb, big dump. Like what
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: am I going to say next year?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll find out. But anyways, so this
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: was like a quiet, dreamlike world at this point. The
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: people of Devin drifted off and it was kind of
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: like the picturesque world, just to go to dreamland. The
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: dreamland would turn into a very hellish reality when the
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: sun rose the next morning. Oh so, as people stepped
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: outside and walked into the fresh blanket of snow, an
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: odd sight began to catch everyone's attention. A series of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: very strange footprints made their way through the snow and
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: measured about four inches long and three inches across, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the stride ranging from about or to about sixteen inches
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: in length. Now, the hoof prints, as we'll call them,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: were reported more than thirty locations across Devon, Okay, and
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: other neighboring counties, and we're estimated to span a distance
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: between forty and one hundred miles.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: What is the name of that one? I don't or
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: never mind, I'll just listen. What Okay, haven't I I
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: did some sort of Christmas thing, din't I?
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: Where was like?
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: Crankin crampis, crampis cranking the release the cranking.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: Okay, crampis.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're talking about crampis. No, we're talking about some
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: hoofed prints in the snow.
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So they're oddly kind of like almost horseshoe hoofed
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: shape now on its own, these hoofs, these prints, they're
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: not much to really talk about. I mean, you wake
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: up the morning, fresh snow. Oh great, a deer wa
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: across my front lawn. WHIPTI friakin do right? However, the
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: hellish part kind of pops up here when we realize
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: is a bit of a twist. The footprints didn't seem
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: to just walk across someone's front lawn or down the road.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: They didn't really just stop for anything, it seemed like though.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: In fact, they walked across the roof of houses, over
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: big walls, across rivers. Wow, they strode through almost anything
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: that was in its path, across walls and into people's
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: back courtyards of their homes. And even there was a
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: claim that the footprints at one point led into a
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: four inch diameter drain pipe and exited out the other end.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Seriously, but these are like big footprints, right, you said
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: sixteen inches or something?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Sixteen inch stride, oh, fourteen or four inch wide, three
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: inch long, I believe is what it was.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, For some reason, I was thinking that the footprint
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: itself was sixteen.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Inches, so four inch long and three inch wide.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: There are oh, okay, okay, three.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Inches across, four inches long, So it seems like it
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: didn't stop for anything, that just kept going without missing
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: a beat. So these hoof prints continued from town to
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: town to town, left in the snow, not stopping for anything.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: And the mystery of these hoof footprints in the snow
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: was never solved, but it was quickly named the Devil's
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: footprints for obvious reasons. Yep, and to this day it's
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: still a mystery. Those are your three urban legends. Now,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: what's your thoughts on that one?
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: True?
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You think it's true?
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I do.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Why do you think it's true?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because there are a lot of I
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: just think in our world unexplained, like animal occurrences, okay,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and so I feel like that could just be that,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: like an animal of sorts made these footprints, and maybe
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: at the time or whatever, we didn't know.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: What that was.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: So you're saying that these hoof prints just walked up
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: to a house, hopped onto the roof, walked across, hopped down,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and kept going because an animal does that.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, freaking mountain goat shit, climb up the side of
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: a goddamn mountain, right, I guess yeah.
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: I wouldn't be able to do that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: And it went through a four inch diameter pipe.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: That throws me off a little bit because it was
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: like a baby goat.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Now I'm just saying it's a goat. It would be like.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Not able to get on the top of the roofs,
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: but it would be able to go through the pipe.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I'm saying four inch diameter pipe. Do you know how
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: much this is a four inch di I'm.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Aware, I'm aware, Okay, Okay, let me see.
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: Okay, So we got that one.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: We have the Wizard of Oz and then we have
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: the Halloween party.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Halloween massacre in nineteen sixty two.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: Shit, No, I'm keeping my answers.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Man Okay, so officially lock it in, which the first one,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the Halloween one is false, the wizard of Oz is false,
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: and the Devil's Footprints is true. Final answer?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Shit, there's there's okay or okay, the second and third one.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: I could potentially switch, but I'm fuck I shouldn't have
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: said that. The goddamn first one is going to be
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the true. No, I'm locking them in.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Okay. So first one Halloween false, second one, Wizard of
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Oz false, final one Devil's Footprints false.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: I mean true.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Okay is that your final answer?
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, I've walked them in.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, Let's start one by one here. Let's start with
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: the Halloween mass of nineteen sixty two. Okay, it is false.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, We're off to a good start here. I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: glad that one's false.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it has been proven to be false. Let's
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: start with debunking it a little bit here. So there
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: is no evidence of any sort of massacre ever occurring
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: on Halloween in the United States in nineteen sixty two.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: There is no report of this ever happening. No murders
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: occurred that night in the States that year, oh w
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: or massacre of that sort Okay.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: I was just like, are you sure.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: That photo I showed you not a photoshop photo, a
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: very real photo. I don't know who the fuck is
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: in that photo. I don't know where they pulled it from,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: but it's just some photo that a story got tacked onto.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: Oh really, So.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: It's a very real photo of very real people from
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: an older time in a Halloween party or something, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: it's just this urban legend got tacked to it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: And here I'm like, that shit's photoshop.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I know, right. And some of the things that they
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: really point to it being false is you have a
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: bunch of people inside a building okay, yeah, and it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: locked from the inside.
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: That did kind of like I was like, how did
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: that happen? But I mean, like you can plan st
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: it ahead, I guess, but.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: You'd have to barricade. And after barricading like that, people
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: are going to notice you're barricading fucking all the doors
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: and shit.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: Also, there was approximately twenty people in there, and they
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: none of them took down this individual.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: And I thought of that too, because I was like,
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: it's just one person, but you have heard of worse things.
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're caught off guard, like you've had some drinks.
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: Yeap, you know.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And then no one else escaped through this window, right,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: just just this guy, people.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: Even though the window had been noticed.
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, and then also finally seven years later, finding the
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: mask in a wooded area. Even if you do, how
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: are you going to identify that's actually correlated to the murder?
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah? I did think that was a bit odd.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Someone's gonna be like, oh, here's a piece of cloth
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: turf that.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, would it have even survived that long?
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Exactly? So that one has been debunked. It is just
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: that an urban legend.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm at least a thirty three at least.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, Okay, So now we're going to tackle the Wizard
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: of Oz.
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm very intrigued here.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: The Wizard of Oz is drum roll.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: False, Yes, holy shit, I'm the bomb.
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: Well done, well done. So yes, the Wizard of Oz
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: has had many reports of horrific conditions for filming. I
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: haven't gone through and checked all the sources for those
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: other prior stories. I haven't done my research on those whatsoever.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: But I have heard tales, specifically one of the Witch
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: and the Lion. I do know that some of those
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: events are true, but I don't know to what degree.
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: I have heard something about the tin Man too, because
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I think there's been podcasts, true crame podcasts that have
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: covered the Wizard of Oz.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, I think so. Yeah. However, the hanging munchkin in
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: the trees, it is a very real shot that is
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: definitely in the movie. However, it is not a munchkin
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: hanging in the trees.
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: Okay, what is it?
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Apparently they had very real birds and animals walking through
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the forest.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: That is on set. Humongous bird.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: It was like some sort of crane.
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: Are you fucking me dead serious?
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: That's I was gonna say more terrifying, but not, it's
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: not more terrifying, but that's terrifying to run into a
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: bird that size.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a big old fucking crane, the rope that's
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: the bird's neck.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Good God, and they're just like skipping it down that
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: I would be running.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: Well, and if you look at the shots, everyone is
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: facing directly towards what would have been the acclaimed body. Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: they would have seen it. Yeah, No one freaked out.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: So they just it was a bird and it's just
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: like they're just here.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they've been seeing these birds all around set and
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: it's just no there, it is over there. Cool.
• 33:59
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: So this urban legend was born of what is a
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: bird silhouette has been turned into someone committed suicide. No
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: one has committed suicide on set.
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: I am like, I'm just tickled pink with myself here.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: I'm good.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: I'm very like, are you surprised by this? I had
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: some Okay, I'm just gonna say I had some very
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: logical explanations to my answers too.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: You did, you did?
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: And maybe not the last one that might be just lucky.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I threw in some hints there to help push you
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: in the right direction. If I'm being.
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Honest, Oh sure, and I'll give me the full credit here.
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: And to be fair, I also threw in curveballs to
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: throw you off. Okay, okay, for some of the curveballs
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: I threw in to throw you off are exactly showing
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: you the.
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: Pictures right in the video. That one, yes, got me.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: So the thing that I put in there to help
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: push you in the right direction was a little bit
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: more details as far as metrics in the Devil's foot prints,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: the distant the stride distance, the footprint size, the exact date,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: February eighth and ninth. I never gave any other exact date,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: well other than Halloween, I guess technically, Oh okay, I
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: never did say the location of the Halloween massacre. Just
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: in the States, this one is in Devon County. Oh
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: so I got I got a little more specific on
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: some of it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: I could make it a bit more believable. Yeah, but
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: also like what the shit was that no one knows?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah? So the Devil's footprints. It's a very real case.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: It's very it's documented, though there isn't much document on it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: There are no photographs. It is a case that has occurred. However,
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: some dispute the fact I'm actually walking up to one
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: hundred miles because who fucking knows. No one actually walked
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: the entire distance in a day to take to check
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: it out, right, Okay, yeah, but there are some accounts
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: of it being something else, or theories of.
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: It anyways, like a baby goat.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Just kidding, I mean kind of, you're not too far off.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: Oh okay.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't actually write down the theories on my notes here.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: I got to open up Wikipedia because they had all
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: the pretty much all the theories just boom right then,
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: and there. Okay, so the theories they have mice like
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: a hopping mouse, like a pack rat of some sort,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: a kangaroo apparently, wow badgers, so basically different animals of sorts. However,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: a lot of these it's like, I don't know if
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: I'm convinced, especially the report saying going straight across the river,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: going straight over walls into courtyards, up onto a roof.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: If an animal is doing that, they're not gonna be
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: going straight line, just gonna be weaving back and forth.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: And like I say, a deer is just gonna go
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: walk and chill, right.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah you think that it would just it would
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: pick an easier route and just go around the buildings
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: and stuff if it could, right rather than up top them.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that does seem a bit odd.
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: It does. Now. The one interesting theory that is written
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: here and I'm going to read it for batim right
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: off here of Wikipedia, so don't get at me for
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: copyright stuff here, but it is a balloon.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: A balloon.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: A balloon is the theory. However, this is eighteen fifty five,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: so I don't know. But there is someone who suggested
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: that an experimental balloon released by mistake from Devenport Dockyard
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: had left the mysterious tracks by trailing two shackles at
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: the end of its mooring ropes. Okay, yeah, so that's
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: a bit of an interesting thing.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I gonna say no, because I also feel like it
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: would have popped. It wouldn't have been able to travel, Like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: what kind of what is this balloon made of? Especially
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: going through the what did you call it, the like tunnel.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: Thing, the fourrange pipe, the drainage pipe. Yeah, I don't
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: think anything would have gone through the drainage pipe unless
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: it is some sort of like demon or something. I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: think it would have just been like, oh, look it
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: went through his pipe when actually it just went over top.
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: Humhmm.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: That's my real inter sometimes the things that people come
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: up with, I mean, like you never know, you never know.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but so the Devil's footprints is actually documented. Okay,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: it is the true tale to our three urban legends.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, everyone's gonna have to let us know they did.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Like this is just this one is just so fun,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Like I'm obsessed with this. The thing is Okay, if
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I were to do this one, yeah, you would for
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: sure pass. You don't know that maybe it should be
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: my goal next year. Do it where Ben cannot succeed.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe we should each do it and see how we
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: can can score against the other.
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, let us know.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Let us know how you think what we should do
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: or should this just be a Ben tradition.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: I don't think it should. I think it's got to
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: be fair. It's got to be fair.
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: Well, you're like, I'm missing out you vomo.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted I want to guess. I want to
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: have that fun. But yeah, us hit us up on Instagram,
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Facebook messages or whatever. You can shoot us an email.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Heead over to our website and contact us through there.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: Let us know what you think, if what we should
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: do for next year on these urban legend stories.
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: But you know what I just had of the realization
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: that I haven't even posted about Bella Kiss, So.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Wow, I will be going.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: And doing that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, go do it right now. Yeah, by the time
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: you're listening to it, if Nicole still hasn't posted, give
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: or shit.
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah I need that.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, Well, thank you for stopping by, Thank you for
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: listening to this case. Hopefully you enjoyed it. Hopefully you
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: had the luck that Nicole had or the skill.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: The skill I was gonna be like Luck.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: That was all skilled, the skill Nicole had. And hopefully
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: you've been enjoying Halloween Week and hopefully we'll see you
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: tomorrow for some more epic Halloween content, because Halloween isn't
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: too far away.
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the countdown is on, it is.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: We got a lot more coming, so stay tuned and
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: until then, stay wicked.