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#118 Chontel Duncan On Juggling 5, High Risk Pregnancies And A Parents Worst Nightmare · Two Doting Dads with Matty J & Ash

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  Speaker 1: Ash Matthew, could you imagine having three more kids in
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  Speaker 1: your life?
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  Speaker 2: Shuts your beautiful mouth.
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  Speaker 1: You're getting sweaty just thinking about it. Oh, Chantel Duncan
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  Speaker 1: and her husband Sam, they have five shut up, not two,
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  Speaker 1: not three or four? Five kids all under eight years old.
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  Speaker 1: Plus she's running like several businesses. Well, does she have
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  Speaker 1: a sakata problem? She doesn't know what it's like, Matthew.
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  Speaker 1: As the owner of hit gyms across Queens and founding
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  Speaker 1: new form a fitness program app, Chantelle has generated a
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  Speaker 1: massive following amongst other mums who just want to keep fit.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's got like over a million Wow, really
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  Speaker 1: follows on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Crazy Chantel gets into how she runs the circus at home,
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  Speaker 3: how she met her longtime partner fellow hunk Sam.
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  Speaker 1: That's very arrogant.
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  Speaker 2: Well, just reading the script, I hate the game, not
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  Speaker 2: the play.
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  Speaker 3: How she got through her high risk pregnancies with her twins,
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  Speaker 3: and how she experienced a moment that he's every parent
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  Speaker 3: worst night man.
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  Speaker 1: Thankfully the story as well, but it's a great reminder.
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  Speaker 1: Considering we are in the thick of summer, let's get
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  Speaker 1: into it. Welcome back to two doting dads and one
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  Speaker 1: doting mum. I am Mattie Jay, I'm Ash and I'm
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  Speaker 1: Chantal Dunkin And this is a podcast all about parenting.
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  Speaker 1: It is the good, it is the bad and the relatable.
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  Speaker 1: And Chantel, we do not give any advice myself and Ash.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're not allowed to.
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  Speaker 1: We have to always just flag that with the listeners
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  Speaker 1: because we are not the experts here. But if you
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  Speaker 1: have any advice to give, please we will be the
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  Speaker 1: sponges and absorb it all beautiful. We always like to
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  Speaker 1: start the podcast and find out what you were like
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  Speaker 1: as a younger person. And Ash and I were talking
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  Speaker 1: this morning in the car and the drive here, and
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that stands out to us for yourself, Jontel,
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  Speaker 1: is discipline. You scream discipline, do I? Yeah? I think so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're the fittest mom we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to say, yeah, we always so driven
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  Speaker 3: and so strict with your routine and your fitness as
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  Speaker 3: a kid as well as.
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  Speaker 4: A kid, I lent more into sports just purely because
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  Speaker 4: well recently I found out I have ADHD and that
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  Speaker 4: makes a lot more sense now looking back at it.
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  Speaker 4: But I found that I thrived in sports, and so
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  Speaker 4: I had very little focus and interest on the mundane.
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  Speaker 4: And I guess that's kind of where it led me
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  Speaker 4: to have that as a career.
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  Speaker 1: Shall I say, if pe in sport was your best
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  Speaker 1: subjects at school, what would be your worst history?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I mean it's done fair enough, fair enough, very logical.
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  Speaker 3: Were your parents, you know, very sporty or were they
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  Speaker 3: very encouraging?
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  Speaker 2: Was there anything you picked up from them?
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  Speaker 5: No?
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  Speaker 4: I mean my dad did play rugby league. I have
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  Speaker 4: vague memories of it because by the time I could
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  Speaker 4: retain that memory, he was kind of getting to the
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  Speaker 4: point where el just getting out of plane. You know,
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  Speaker 4: body's a bit broken. But no, I did not come
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  Speaker 4: from a sporty family at all. I was almost like
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  Speaker 4: the odd ball in the family.
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  Speaker 1: You shall say, you mentioned that you had your diagnosis
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  Speaker 1: with add When you look back when you were a youngster,
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  Speaker 1: were there any symptoms that you go, oh, that makes
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  Speaker 1: so much sense now, so much What were they focus?
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  Speaker 4: I remember reading books and I could read everything that
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  Speaker 4: was in front of me, But would it make sense
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  Speaker 4: and would I retain it?
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  Speaker 5: Not? Really?
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  Speaker 4: If I was interested in it, I would be top
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  Speaker 4: of the class. If I had to do an oral presentation,
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  Speaker 4: meaning I could explain it the way that I saw
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  Speaker 4: it and use my creativity to do my demonstrations, then
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  Speaker 4: I would ace it. If I had to write something
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  Speaker 4: and read a book, I would try go around and
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  Speaker 4: watch the movie, which will never be exactly what the
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  Speaker 4: book's like. And I became very solution orientated based from
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  Speaker 4: having I guess those limitations. But yeah, I look back
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  Speaker 4: at it now and I can see why I thrived
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  Speaker 4: in things like math and science and sports. I didn't
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  Speaker 4: in history and English. I just was not interested. And
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  Speaker 4: if you're not interested, you don't hyperfix on it and
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  Speaker 4: you don't retain it.
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  Speaker 1: What led you to get diagnosed? Then, after all this time,
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  Speaker 1: my son.
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  Speaker 4: They kept saying in kindergarten that maturity for young boys
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  Speaker 4: is delayed up to two years almost, And when he
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  Speaker 4: was in kindergarten, he just wasn't focusing. He wasn't naughty,
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  Speaker 4: he is so beautiful, he is such an honest kid,
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  Speaker 4: but he could not focus and he'd do silly things.
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  Speaker 4: And I remember saying to my husband, that's not like,
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  Speaker 4: that's not.
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  Speaker 5: Normal, and what is normal?
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  Speaker 4: But I just always have this analogy that you can't
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  Speaker 4: build a gorgeous, beautiful, incredible mansion on a shit foundation.
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  Speaker 4: So if I don't create the great, solid foundation for him,
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  Speaker 4: then he's not going to be able to flourish in
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  Speaker 4: whatever he wants to do.
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  Speaker 5: So I know.
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  Speaker 4: I probably could have had a better kickstart if I
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  Speaker 4: had a stronger foundation, But I guess the blessing was
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  Speaker 4: I had to become solution orientated and I learned the
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  Speaker 4: power of hard work. But I always want to try
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  Speaker 4: build that foundation for them so that whatever it is
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  Speaker 4: that they're interested in or that they're great at, they
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  Speaker 4: just have a really good starting point. And I just
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  Speaker 4: couldn't understand why he wasn't retaining things. He couldn't remember names.
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  Speaker 4: I'd be like, this is you know Sarah who works
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  Speaker 4: at the gym. You see her all the time. This
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  Speaker 4: is you know And he just wouldn't remember their names
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  Speaker 4: or remember like situations that we've done, maybe last year
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  Speaker 4: we went on holidays anyways. And then his younger brother,
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  Speaker 4: because I had the children so close in age, I
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  Speaker 4: did all five of them in under six years, and
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  Speaker 4: I just remember his younger brother started coming to the
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  Speaker 4: mark and remembering things and having an excellent memory, and yeah,
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  Speaker 4: retaining information or like their memory is part of ADHD.
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  Speaker 4: So I just said to the teacher, what do you
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  Speaker 4: want to do, like what's where does he stand out?
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  Speaker 4: And she said, we'll do a series of tests and
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  Speaker 4: then you can send those reports to the GP. You
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  Speaker 4: can go to the GP and have a look at
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  Speaker 4: investigating further into an OT and they can have a
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  Speaker 4: look to see if he's on the spectrum for anything,
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  Speaker 4: if there's anything that he's challenged with. And to me,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, ADHD is a power. It is a superpower.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of geniuses and huge entrepreneurs tend to be
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  Speaker 4: on the spectrum to be real. And my husband, his
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  Speaker 4: two younger brothers, he comes from a family of four
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  Speaker 4: kids they had ADHD. So I thought, genetically, it's a
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  Speaker 4: strong chance. I did not think I had it because
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  Speaker 4: I was so organized. I was over organized, I was
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  Speaker 4: disciplined and things like that, but I was that because
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  Speaker 4: I had to. Anyways, Yeah, he got diagnosed and then
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  Speaker 4: she said, well it's generally genetic, like it's always going
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  Speaker 4: to be genics. Sorry, And as they go into it
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  Speaker 4: and list all the things that he's doing and the
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  Speaker 4: things that he has, it just started to I almost
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  Speaker 4: was ticking everything for myself. Wow, and then I thought, shit,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I'm the problem.
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  Speaker 5: So when I got tested and.
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  Speaker 1: One of us has begun the process, Chantelle.
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  Speaker 3: I'm very early on, but I think we're starting the process.
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  Speaker 3: It's so long and tedious. I feel like it's all
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  Speaker 3: one big test, you know what I mean, Like it's
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if.
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  Speaker 1: We joke about the fact that if you can complete it,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so hard.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not gonna lie.
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  Speaker 4: But I doing the DIVA test, skimmed so many questions
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  Speaker 4: just to get a finished And then psychiatrist said, how
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  Speaker 4: did you go completing the test? And I'm like, to
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  Speaker 4: be real, I'll be honest, I didn't really read much
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  Speaker 4: of it. And he goes, oh, that's a huge but
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  Speaker 4: that's a huge indicator right there.
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  Speaker 3: I was going through like the first steps and it
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  Speaker 3: was like, you know, getting like character from people close
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  Speaker 3: to me, and I was.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like, oh, butterfly.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I was just so distracted because I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I can't focus on this. How how am I supposed
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  Speaker 3: to complete something to figure out to tell me whether
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  Speaker 3: I've got ADHD or not?
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  Speaker 1: What is not to sound really naive here, but Chanta,
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  Speaker 1: what is the test? What does that look like?
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  Speaker 4: It's very hard to know why he asks his certain questions.
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  Speaker 4: That's a psychiatrist when you do the sit down appointments,
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  Speaker 4: because at the beginning, yes, they can give you a diagnosis,
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  Speaker 4: but I believe it's always tentative until they trial the medication,
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  Speaker 4: and then they see how you spun because you'll either
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  Speaker 4: go one way or the other. And they do school
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  Speaker 4: reporting so they get all your history.
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  Speaker 5: They obviously asks.
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  Speaker 4: Like parents or people who knew you as an adolescent,
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  Speaker 4: and then they get you to complete the DIVA tests
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  Speaker 4: as well, so they're the main ones that I had
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  Speaker 4: to do, and then it's just trial and error with
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  Speaker 4: medication to see do you feel like you're getting better with.
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  Speaker 3: That since your son's gone through the process. Do you
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  Speaker 3: see a really big difference?
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  Speaker 5: Massive.
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  Speaker 4: I can not vouch more for parents getting their kids
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  Speaker 4: tested if they have an ink clean or a gut
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  Speaker 4: feeling that your child is struggling. It is in no way,
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  Speaker 4: shape or form shameful if your child has some form
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  Speaker 4: of challenge when it comes to focusing. Because if you
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  Speaker 4: had diabetes, you'd get medication for it. If you could
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  Speaker 4: not see, you would get glasses. If you had crooked teeth,
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  Speaker 4: you'd go get bracest. If your brain is not functioning
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  Speaker 4: the way it needs to function, you would get medication
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  Speaker 4: for it.
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  Speaker 5: It's just another organ.
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  Speaker 3: It's really nice to hear because my wife and I
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  Speaker 3: sort of our son really similar to how you described yours.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like can't focus.
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  Speaker 3: There's things he's really really really good art, and then
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  Speaker 3: there's things he's really like struggling with that I can see.
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  Speaker 3: So it's really good to hear that your perspective and
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  Speaker 3: that you know there isn't anything be ashamed of, for sure, not.
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  Speaker 1: To put you on the spot ash Do you think
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  Speaker 1: the test for yourself will be completed or yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Look.
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  Speaker 2: I want to finish it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying my absolute hardest. Too many distractions.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, you know, you survived so far and done
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  Speaker 4: so well, like you've built this character based on being
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  Speaker 4: truly special and like in so many cool ways that
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  Speaker 4: people admire. I mean, it's definitely a blessing. But if
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  Speaker 4: it helps you build projects and get to the next
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  Speaker 4: level that you might be working on, then perfect, then
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  Speaker 4: the medication will help.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I'm a therapy.
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  Speaker 1: We did. We've got a glimpse of your beautiful husband
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  Speaker 1: Sam before we started recording. I don't know if he's
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  Speaker 1: in the room still, but he is a gorgeous.
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  Speaker 2: Man's a handsome man.
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  Speaker 5: He's laughing.
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  Speaker 1: I think I heard a giggle in the battle.
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  Speaker 2: I can sense it.
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  Speaker 1: When did you and Sam first meet?
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  Speaker 5: I was fourteen when he asked me out?
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  Speaker 2: Wow, he was also a similar age.
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  Speaker 5: I'm hoping he was.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 5: He was fifteen with the baller.
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  Speaker 1: Where was the asking out? Where did it take place?
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  Speaker 4: So we met in school. He was the great above
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  Speaker 4: me and we were kinder. It was so funny. Me
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  Speaker 4: and my best friend liked him and his best friend
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  Speaker 4: and so we just would sleek out of the house,
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  Speaker 4: go to parties and on the weekends or on Thursday night,
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  Speaker 4: got a late night shopping because that was such a fun.
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  Speaker 1: I like the local Westfield.
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  Speaker 4: Well we went that bougie. We're from the Redlands, so
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  Speaker 4: it was Capellabar.
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  Speaker 5: And the skate park and yeah, I was quite the tomboy.
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  Speaker 4: And then we would always go to on to the
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  Speaker 4: Wellington Point Beach which has a jetty and you'd go
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  Speaker 4: jetty jumping and have hot chips and things like that
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  Speaker 4: and all like skateboard and ride your bikes there. But anyway,
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  Speaker 4: so we would always find ways to see each other
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  Speaker 4: outside of school as well. And it was Christmas Day
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  Speaker 4: we did. We had Optus mobile phones, and the reason
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  Speaker 4: why we had Optus is because it was free after nine.
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  Speaker 5: Do you remember that?
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  Speaker 1: I remember that? It seems wild flashback, young kids, like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you mean it was free after isn't it
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  Speaker 1: always three?
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  Speaker 4: If you and your person you're ringing had Optus then
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  Speaker 4: and you had at least a dollar credit, we'd always
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  Speaker 4: hang on to that last dollar because you could call
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  Speaker 4: for free after nine o'clock. So we would speak for
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  Speaker 4: hours in our bedrooms from nine o'clock. And it was
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  Speaker 4: Christmas Eve. My girlfriend and Sam's best friend parks each
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  Speaker 4: other out on Christmas Eve, and we didn't want the
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  Speaker 4: same anniversary, so then he usks me out twelve oh
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  Speaker 4: one on Christmas Day and then cue the next day.
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  Speaker 4: Our families ended up celebrating Christmas at the same location.
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  Speaker 4: So we just knuck off and we're.
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  Speaker 1: Like, hey, wow, see when you're that age though, you know,
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  Speaker 1: when you're fourteen fifteen, the last thing you're thinking about
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're kind of it's young love, but you're
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  Speaker 1: not really thinking about getting married and starting a family.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you guys started having those types
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  Speaker 1: of conversations.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it would have been well after we
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  Speaker 4: started our business.
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  Speaker 5: We'll talk them eleven years to propose to me?
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  Speaker 2: Eleven years? Well, you were fourteen.
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  Speaker 5: Side, are you on?
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  Speaker 3: Look? I think like if you met when you're twenty,
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  Speaker 3: it would have only been five years, if you put
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  Speaker 3: it that way.
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  Speaker 5: So like, team Sam, I see something.
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  Speaker 1: You've got someone in your corner.
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  Speaker 2: Mate, I gotcha, I got your mate.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so look we I reckon.
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  Speaker 4: After we opened our first business together is when we
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  Speaker 4: were actually feeling like adults. Were like, shit, we're full
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  Speaker 4: blond adults here. Now let's talk about us. Before that,
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  Speaker 4: we were in the honeymoon period for so many years,
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  Speaker 4: which I love.
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  Speaker 5: Because we got to grow up together.
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  Speaker 4: We got to go travel together, Like, yeah, I just
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  Speaker 4: cut all the drama out that I would watch Vikarasi
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  Speaker 4: through our friends and yeah, we were just so content
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  Speaker 4: with not having to double into that and just always
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  Speaker 4: have each other. And his mates were always, you know,
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  Speaker 4: friends with all my girlfriends.
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  Speaker 5: So it just kind of worked. It was like this
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  Speaker 5: big Jersey shore.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of popping the question, do you want to
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  Speaker 3: give us how that went down?
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  Speaker 5: It was so over the top. He went so far.
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  Speaker 4: He got a helicopter ride for me, and it was
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  Speaker 4: a friend who owned the Institute of Fitness that I
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  Speaker 4: got qualified through or he got qualified through as well.
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  Speaker 4: We became really good friends with the owner. I also
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  Speaker 4: started working for him straight after I got qualified, so
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  Speaker 4: this really good relationship with him and we would talk
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  Speaker 4: to him about business and things like that. So it
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  Speaker 4: made sense when he said he wrung me the owner
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  Speaker 4: and said I want to take you out on my
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  Speaker 4: helicopter and take you and Sam around the Gold Coast
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  Speaker 4: that's where he was from. And yeah, I just want
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  Speaker 4: to say thanks because you've grown your social media so
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  Speaker 4: massively and you've sent hundreds of people through to my
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  Speaker 4: institute and encourage them to get into the field. So
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  Speaker 4: it's the least I could do. And I'm like, legit,
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  Speaker 4: this sounds great. I mean, my husband's going to love this.
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  Speaker 4: He loves helicopters. For me, I was like a day
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  Speaker 4: off and I've got to go to the Gold Coaster.
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  Speaker 5: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: I was so tired running this company, and I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine, that's so lovely of him. So I got
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  Speaker 4: in a beautiful dress. It was like a summer dress.
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  Speaker 4: He told me to take it off. He's like, why
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  Speaker 4: are you wearing that? Just like chuck some shorts on,
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  Speaker 4: which I'm so annoyed because he had a photographer the
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  Speaker 4: proposed one.
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  Speaker 5: I was wearing just the ugliest outfit and yeah. So
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  Speaker 5: we got into the helicopter.
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  Speaker 4: We'll flying around and he started hovering and he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: can you see the shark sound there? And I'm like
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  Speaker 4: looking down trying to find it, and he's like over there,
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  Speaker 4: pointing to the beach.
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  Speaker 5: Did not see it for so long?
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  Speaker 4: And then he like physically turned my head and he's like,
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  Speaker 4: look at the sign on the beach and there was
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  Speaker 4: this grienormous sign with all my friends and family.
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  Speaker 5: Will you marry me?
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  Speaker 2: Wow?
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  Speaker 4: Then I turned around and he was like he went
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  Speaker 4: I want and just paused, shaking like a little baby back,
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  Speaker 4: and then just said marry me, like could not say
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  Speaker 4: what he wanted to say.
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  Speaker 5: I started bawling my eyes out, and it's awkward because
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  Speaker 5: our friend is in between us.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: He's like, hey, guys, let me just.
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: And he stams in the back um of the front.
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: Kind even kiss him, can't hug him. It was so funny.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: And then when we got out the helicopter, they had
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: a photographer there, champagne popping, everyone was there. We went
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: out to lunch and it was really beautiful. In my
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: shorts and a single.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Weather appropriate appropriate. Yeah, that's great.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: Well, it was that probably one of the most boogie
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: old like, yeah out there story as we've had.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: We've had some good ones. That's great.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Graduate take note of that. We do have to say,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: and I mean this in the most polite way possible,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you are a little bit crazy in that I don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: know any family with young kids with more than three
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: little ones. You've got five. Talk me through that.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: It was not planned, but it is the most incredible
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: blessing that has happened to us because we both have
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: a very small families on the outside and in a
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: quick nutshell, we don't have relationships with our parents or
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: anything like that, and so it's really small and for us,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: we always wanted to redo life and do it the
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: way that we wish we could have had as kids.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: And you'd always well, for us, we always admired watching
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: families and our friends have that perfect you know, they
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: do holidays, they sit down for dinners, they don't have
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: parents rock up to things, and.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: Like, there's just this network.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There a unit, there's a unit there, and it's really beautiful.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: And that's what we didn't have. It was very messy.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: So for us, we had very similar common interests when
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: it came to our future, and we always said, let's
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: go four kids.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Let's go four kids.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Went the first one and it was a perfect, literally
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: textbook pregnancy. Then we had I think I was nine
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: months postpartum and we fell pregnant with the second one,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: and I was like, amazing. I only wanted boys because
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I just saw how easy going all the boys were.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: In Sam's house. They would punch on and then in
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: ten minutes they would be together again playing. They never
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: had a grudge against each other, they were best mates.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: They got over things so quickly. And I was such
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: a tomboy. I'm like, I just can't deal with girls
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: with simple creatures. Yeah, absolutely take my head off, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: kills me at the same time.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Sorry. I was like, yeah, four boys. Great.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: So we had the first two and then I was like, actually,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I kind of feel like I want a daughter. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: would love a daughter, but I don't want to go
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: through another two pregnancies. Maybe we could have twins, you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: because if my this is all going to happen. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: I said to Sam, let's go see our ob and
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: just ask him what's the chance of us possibly going
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: for twins? How do you get twins? You know what's
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: put your best foot forward. You never know, you got
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: to learn. So I spoke to him and he just
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: basically said, your field of fitness, I would not recommend
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: you have twins will.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Absolutely destroy your public floor.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: You won't be doing your kickboxing, your box jumps, you're skipping,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: you won't. You know that's going to be gone and
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: it's going to damage your body as well.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: So just keep that in the back of your mind.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: Also, if you want to pick your gender, you're gonna
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: have to go overseas and do that.
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: We don't do that in Australia.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: And also if we try to do twins and put
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: your eggs like fertilized eggs and you they can split.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: And that's how as an example, that's how Octo Mum
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: came about. Is that how that I was like We'll
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: just go back to the normal.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: It's all good. Thanks so much. You've like terrified me.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and yes, I was like, okay, we'll just do
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: the norm. There's hard and nupshewe and get over yourself.
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: Just do it. You know, anything worth having is going
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: to be hard work. So we went and had our
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: third baby, and it was a high risk pregnancy, and
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that just rattled me. It was called a threatened miscarriage.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: So your body tries to miscourage the pregnancy, but your
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: cervix doesn't open, so it's kind of like a ticking bomb.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: You're just a kicking bomb. You gotta lay down and
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: keep your legs up. You can't do anything that's like
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: even sneezing is really dangerous. And that comes from twelve
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: weeks all the way through. He came at and they
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: come early as well because the sack that they live
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: in thins and eventually the waters will break and you'll
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: have the baby. So I managed to keep him in
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: there till he was thirty five weeks.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Do they pick that up on the twelve weeks scan?
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: No, It basically I just started hemorrhaging like I was miscarriaging,
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: and they checked and they're like, look, the baby's still alive,
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: but this is a miscarriage, and you're just going to
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: have to go home, hope for the best, come back
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: in twenty four forty eight hours and we'll check to
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: see if the baby survived.
• 21:02
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, oh shit, that's ruthless. That's so ruthless.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: That's all you get told.
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: And so yeah, that was a really dark period just
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: laying there and ignoring basically anything outside. It's like an
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: outer body experience and you're just basically living in this shell.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: For it was a Friday, it happens. I have to
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: wait till Monday.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: And when I came back Monday, I'm like, the bleeding's
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: kind of slowed down. It's like getting better. Is everything good?
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: And you're just waiting to hear the heartbeat and they're like, yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: everything's good, but you have a huge hematoma. So that's
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: the big hemorrhage, like the big bruising in there, and
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: we can't guarantee anything. So yes, baby survived, You're just
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: going to have to lay down and just stay down.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: And for me, I'm one adhd I know it. At
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the time, running multiple businesses, have two young kids, under.
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: I don't know how old they were then. Anyways, they
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: were so young and then being so active. I trained
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: at least once a day minimum, and all my staff,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: and then online presence on social media, and I was
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: on an app called Sweat at the time, and I
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: had to be actively promoting online and so it was
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: just so annoying and heavy and massively character building, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: we survived.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: He got to the thirty five week period.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: And came out six pounds, which is small but fine
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: for a thirty five week are absolutely perfect.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: And here's our go getter, here's our wild child.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: And he's like our little nugget, a little runt of
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: the family. He's just wild. And he came out perfectly fine.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: And I said to Sam, done.
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: Done, Do not ever want to do that again? Three
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: kids be healthy. Done.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: He was eight months old and my girlfriend put me
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: on this flow app.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you boys would even know what
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: that is.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Do yes, I don't like.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: It's a cycle app, right, It's a.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Cycle app so basically tells you when you're ovulating, which
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: my husband didn't know what that meant.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: Only like a couple of weeks ago.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Anyways, she put me on this app and she's like, Seannie,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: I know you're done having kids, so hop on the
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: flow app. I can't believe you never track, So here
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: you go. You can track because you're and Sam seen
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: before pregnant on the toilet seat these days.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Just good at it all right.
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: Now you're really like pepping and muk. So anyways, I
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: was like perfect, looked at it and I was like,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: oh cool, we're not I'm not ovulating. I'm like so
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: far out of it. So one time, one time we
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: were just like drinking or you know whatever, and you
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: know how babies are made and tweens, so.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Talk about tempting fake with that conversation with you. Ob Yeah, I.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: Feel like anything I think of happens, I keep manifesting.
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: I just need to stop.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: What's the feeling like going okay, well we're pregnant. All right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: we're gonna have to deal with this. We're gonna have
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: a fourth and then it's like, nope, you're gonna have
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: a fifth as well?
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: What's that field I had?
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: My My friends are renovating the house and they have
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: four kids, and I was like, oh, don't go rent
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: a house, just come live at mine. I have one
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: spare room and a big lound room. They typical islander vibes, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: this is me. I'm like, everyone lives at my house.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: All good, come here, put your fridge in my dining room.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: Like we'll be fine, We'll like have this beautiful Brady bunch.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: And so I had them living with me, and I
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: remember coming down going, guys, I'm pregnant. And I threw
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the test at Sam when I found out.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You did this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: Typical, And then I went down I told them and
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I eventually had I had so many shoots I had
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: to do, and I had to go to Melbourne and
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: like film all this content. And I couldn't understand why
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I was so unwell. I felt dizzy, like I needed
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: to faint all the time. I had nausea, and I
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: just was like, I'll get to the scan appointment, I'll
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: book it in and I'll figure it out. But you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: fourth pregnancy, I'm just not eager to run and go
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: figure it out.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: It's not so new, I guess, yeah, And I was
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: really busy.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I was just with the issues you had that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I've done this before. They just need you know, I
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: know what it's like.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: And eventually I made it to the Q scan appointment,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: which you guys would have been at, and they show
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: you the little blob on the with the little chicker,
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: and I remember the lady set me down and she goes,
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: first baby. I'm like, no, fourth baby. Yeah, And I've
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: been in this exact ruin exact seat.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: This is the fourth time doing this.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: And she's like okay, And I was like having a
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: little joke, right, And I said to her, please just
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: tell me there's only one baby, otherwise I'm going to
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: get up and throat punch my husband. And she's like, okay,
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: did not turn the screen on in front of us
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: she was doing her scan. I can't see her screen
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: And I said, oh, could you turn that on please.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: She's like, oh, I can't reach.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: I can Oh no.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, can you turn the screen on? She goes,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: oh no, no, no, I'll figure out in a second. Sorry,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: this is just how I need to do it this way.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm calling you. That's not right anyways.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Then I'm thinking, all right, something's wrong. That's why she's
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: not showing us. And she turns around and she goes,
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I need to go get my manager. Oh, And I'm like, oh, okay.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: So she leaves the room and I looked at Sam
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: and we it was cod like real heavy into COVID
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: at that point, so we had a mask on and
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: I'm just like and then he's just looking at me
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: with these big, like islander eyes, like I'm either going
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: to be hit in a second or I'm going to
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: have to consolidate my wife in a second. Like the
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: poor man's just not sure what's going on. And the
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: manager comes back in and she goes, all right, I
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: want you to hold your husband's hand, and I was like, bitch,
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: come on, what want I'm freaking out. I hold his hand.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: I look at him and his eyes have got him
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: whiter and bigger. And she turns the TV on and
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I'm like, is that split screen? And because I left
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: it so long, they went blobs with a ticker, they
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: were full shapes, arms, legs, everything, And I was like,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: is that split because I was two sacks, two separate
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: little babies.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: And she's like, no o havings And.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I just cried, so embarrassingly cried, and I'm like I
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: can't do this and she's like, oh, you'll me fine.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Manager has no idea who I am? What my situation is,
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, I've got a ten months or like
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: a no seven month old or something. And then I
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: just had a listing off the other ages and a
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: three year old and a four year old, and she's like,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: do you have help?
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: I don't have a relationship with eta parents. Okay, well
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: I'll leave you for now, and just left ever room
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: with the yeah there, what did we do?
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: And then ladies like, just so you know, they are
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: the healthiest type of twins. You can have separate sacks
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: percentas are not even near each other. They will not
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: take each other to nutrients. They will be so big
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: and healthy. And I'm just like, I don't want to
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: hear that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I want to hear that.
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: I was so I was just like dying inside. I
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: get in the car and then I just let it
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: out profusely, crying like Kim k hideous my best friend
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: on FaceTime. She just thinks the worst has happened. Then
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: she gives me this big like bitch, wipe your face.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: If there's anyone who can do this, and gives me
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: this full pep talk, and then I'm like, okay, Sam's like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: should I not go to work today? Just sitting next
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: to me on the car like he doesn't exist. I'm
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: just on the phone with my best friend. I was like, oh, yeah,
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: you're fine.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I like Sam's sort of like the cares so much,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: but will pat me.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: We always have this ongoing jokey, We're like, were you
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: hugged as a child? Like yeah, just like.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: His love language is gift giving and doing things for people,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: not so much like physical touch. And I'm like, Y's okay,
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: like I've got as It's all good, babes.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Go to work.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just having a moment. And then yeah,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: it came to terms that we were having it. But
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: then it turned out to be a threatened miscarriage again.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: So only weeks later that I started hamorrhaging. Went back
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: into the doctors and they're like, unheard of, but you're
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: having the exact same thing again.
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: Legs up, do not move, and twin pregnancy is going
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: to be worse.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: So then I went through it all again, knowing exactly
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: what I was going to expect, knowing what to expect,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: and then also having three little kids now to mentor
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: and my husband just was phenomenal, just took everything over
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: for me, helped run the business, more. I was pumping
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: content online for my app that I was working under.
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: I had so much backed up content, so I was
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: just trying to avoid the truth online and just survive.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: And yeah, then they came early.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: They came so early. They came at thirty one weeks
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: on the dot.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Can I be really stupid for a second. How many
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: weeks is full term?
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: Thirty thirty seven is healthy?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Every good thing?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: You Yeah, with twins, they're smaller than a single ten sorry,
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: technically not the same size as a normal thirty one weeker.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: So they came out and I remember getting rushed to
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: hospital and saying to my doctor, I'm like that I'm
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: not in labor. I'm fine, I'm fine, and he's like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: you're in labor.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: Did that hurt?
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: And like you could just see the markers going up
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: and down And he's like, look, they're gonna come out,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: but I just need to prepare you that they could
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: come out on separate days, because it was eleven PM
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: at the time or around eleven, and he's like, are
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: you prepared to have twins on the separate on separate days?
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: I was like, don't take them out, Like I don't
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: even care about that.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: A birthday. It's at least that I worry.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I've never heard about that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I've never heard that ever happening where they're twins, but
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: the birthdays are different. They don't ever think about that.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: But like Mike, he was born at like eleven thirty
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: at night. If he was a twin, he could possibly
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: be the cave.
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: Possibly.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: So did your waters break, Chantelle?
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, my water's broke.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Then I started like camorrhaging and it was just a
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: massive ordeal. We had to quickly get rid of the
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: children and just dropped them at my friend's house and
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: I was like, please just feed them, bath them. There's
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: nothing there. We just got to go in the ambulance
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: straight to the hospital. And then yeah, it was just
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: kind of fast. It just kind of all happened. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: when they came out, it was and I'll be honest,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: it was disgusting. They were translucent, they were so little,
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: and then they wrapped them in these bags to keep
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: them warm, and I'm just like, this is so foreign
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: for me because I don't know with your children's first
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: But they come out, they do checks, maybe a bit
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: of oxygen, maybe a bit of sucking, and then they
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: give them to you, and you go into the first
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: little stage of recovery with a baby on your bed yep,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: and then you get moved into your suite and it's
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: like your whole new world for you, Like this is
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: a whole new year.
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: Sam's kind of like where do I go.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: Do I stay with my wife who is literally going
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: through it, or do I go with baby one?
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Or do I go with baby two.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: There's thirty plus people in the room because they need
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: a whole unit for one child.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: It's really chaotic.
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: Then they start wheeling them away and I'm just like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: I am fine, I've done this, like choose a child
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: go and so he's disappeared. I'm just laying there. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: have no idea and I think that's that was fed.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: That was really really hard. You go to recovery and
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: the all the nurses are like, how's your baby, And
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know. I had to actually, like
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: you feel so empty. You feel like you were doing
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: so well surviving for these little ones, and then all
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, you don't have anything and you don't
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: even have your husband.
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Next year, it's just you.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: No control of information either, You're not sure you're in
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: recovery and like as Dad's experience watching our wives in
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: recovery and how tough it is for them. So I
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: can imagine you laying there thinking, Okay, I'm in recovery.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know where my kids are. I don't know
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: how they're feeling. I also don't know how I'm feeling
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: and how my husband's feeling either.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine how that would have been for you.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: And in an ADHD prainh. That was the first time
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I had to surrender. I had to put my trust
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: in strangers. Yeah, I had to completely surrender and just
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: trust at the universe just what had to happen. Like,
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, this is my path and you just
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: need to lean into it and trust it and pay attention.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming you're waiting for some kind of information about
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: what state the kids are in. Do you remember who
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: that came from?
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: No, it was such a blur.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: I don't even remember wo much about that first twenty
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: four hour period other than nine hours after I had
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: the cesarean. I attempted to stand up and get up
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: and take the catheter and everything out, and I've just
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: had a cesarean, But I remember the only way I
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: could really see the children. Is if I could show
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: them that I could get up and hop into a wheelchair,
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: and I.
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Would milk it for twenty four hours.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: After the first three berths, I was terrified of standing up, Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: and my guts falling out and things like that. And yeah,
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: I was just so determined and got up. Proved them
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: that I could sit up straight. I wasn't going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: pass out.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: I could go.
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: You have to prove that you go to the toilet
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: and everything like that. So I healed remarkably fast with
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: that pregnancy, purely because I got my body moving. And
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: this is what they always encourage is don't lay down,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: get up and move. The power of the mind is remarkable.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: And when your face with the temptation of like you
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: can do the hard and you'll get to see your kids,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: don't do the hard. You just have to miss out
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: right now. And I, yeah, got up, went to go
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: see them. And then I realized for sure how tiny
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: they were. And I remember I could put my wedding
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: ring over their hand, and yeah, it was they were
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: covered in everything. You couldn't really see their face. I
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: didn't know what they really look like. And then when
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: they're like you're ready for your first skinder skin experience.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: And I'm trying to hop into this bed and reclimb back,
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: and I'm just like, my God is killing me. But
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: I don't want to show that I'm in that much
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: pain because they're going to tell me to go to
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: your room.
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just pull through, You'll be fine. They do
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: it for the kids.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: When they put them on me, I was like, what
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: is actually physically touching me? I can't even feel them
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: touching me. There was so much on them.
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing a photo Chantelle and they have the
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: oxygen marks masked over their face. It was And they're
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: so small as well. It's almost like equal parts dical
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: equipment to the baby.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, premie babies, you don't lightly touch, you don't just
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: brush them. You just got to put pressure on them.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: It's not like they don't like being tickled or Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: it's different, like you don't feel like you can be
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: soft and gentle with them. You kind of just feel
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: like you just got to put a warm blanket on
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: and just like firm cuddle.
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was so weird. It was really hard.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: How long until you were able to go home?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: I milked as long as I could, and I got
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: to stay.
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: I think it was five days or four days. Again,
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: it was such a blur.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Its not that long, no, is it? So you could leave,
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: but you had to leave them behind.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Is that correct? Wow?
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: That's when it hit you because at that time, you're
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: still technically under the same roof. Like logically, I'm still
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: in the same house, even though I sleep in a
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: separate room. I had a TV screen that I could
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: watch them on the TV screen and see them like there.
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: As soon as I'd wake up, I'd quickly have my
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: brakey and go straight downstairs and just tag team cuddling
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: each one. And then Sam obviously left, he had to
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: stay home here with the three kids, so I'm doing
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: this on my own. He'd come up as much as
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: he could, plus obviously take over the workload that I.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: Would normally do when it came to leaving.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: That's when it really hit home because where we had
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: them was in the city where we live was about
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: fifty minutes away. So where you have them at the Mata,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: you can't walk to the car parket It's like huge
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: hills and you're just not really in that fit form
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: at the moment to do that so a lot of
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: the moms they sit at this bench seat under cover
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: bench seat, and there's a drive up point, almost like
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: a ballet park, and then the fathers come and they
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: take the baby, take the mom and if they go
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: and scoot off. So I'm sitting there waiting for Sam
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: to get the car, and it like walking up the
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: hospital horrible, and then sitting there and just being reminded
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: by watching other parents leave with their babies that you
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: don't have that. That was like just they get through
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: it for whatever reason, lean into it, surrender they need.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: Like to be honest, I wouldn't want them home. I
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: didn't know what the hell to do with these babies.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I didn't know how to look after them. They were
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: so tiny. So at the same time, you're like, I
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: need you to stay here. I need to attend to
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: three other kids. But it really sucks.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: It's that feeling I can't imagine of leaving after all
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: of that, and then thinking, shit, well I'm not even
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: getting to leave with them.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: At the moment, you feel, yeah, you feel a bit
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: like empty.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Ah for sure.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And how long were they there before you could bring
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: them home?
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: Almost six weeks.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's a long time.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: It's a long juggle because I can't drive for seven
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: days or a little bit longer. Then that's a fifty
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: minute community, fifty minute communit back. We've got to sort
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: out the other kids, but we also have to go
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: into work and things like that.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: So to talk about it, I'm like a tough situation
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: being made even tougher.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Now I can understand when children are sick and parents
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: have to relokay why they would relocate because the cost
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: of parking, the commute, the time it takes away from
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: the other kids, and it's huge.
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: And we only had to do it for five and
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: a half weeks.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you did have all five kids at home,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: how was that logistically? Because I'm one of five, but
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: we're really spaced out the youngest and oldest. I'm going
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to get this way wrong if my family listened to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: this and we're like, what are you talking about? But
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it could be. I think it's about twelve or thirteen
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: years between youngest and oldest, so really spread out. So
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: we were fortunate that the eldest was able to step
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: in and help out, whereas your situation was different because
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: your kids are so young. Yeah, how the hell do
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you guys manage with five little kids.
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: It was terrifying, to say the least. And my five
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: year old, who was the oldest at the time.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Get to work.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: He could barely remember where he put his shoes. I mean,
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: he's got ADHD like his working memory is shocking. And
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: he still needs help to do certain things as well,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: and still gets out of his bed when we're trying
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: put him bed like there was so much to navigate around.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: But the blessing in this is I was given two
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: babies that were fully routined hospitals NIKI like they routine them.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: They are on a schedule, they.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Get fed at a certain time and then they're not
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: carried all the time. They're made to sleep in bright light,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: heaps of like noise. Of course, there's always monitors going off.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: They are bathed the same way all the time. They
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: have bandages getting ripped off them, their heels are horrendous
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: from getting blood test pricks. They're just poked and prodded
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: and resilient as they're the most resilient kids. So when
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: they came home, yes, they would kick on and scream
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: like they had a little situation with reflux. And I
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: don't know if you had reflex babies, but it's pretty bad.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: But other than that, they were routined and I didn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: breastfeed these two. I chose not to, just for sanity
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: and for logistically working as a family. That was probably
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: my saving grace because I had my husband to help
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: and I didn't get sleep deprivation because I was able
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: to know when I could sleep and when I couldn't,
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: whereas with breastfeeding, it was feed on demand. Yeah, and
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I'm the only one that can do it. And there's
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: same point both of us being tired. But yeah, so
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: when we got home and we had all five, it
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: was just survive.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm just going to say, you guys have done
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: such an amazing job. It's so hard with two kids.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: I'm imagining adding three more in the mix, those two
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: of which are twins, and you're trying to run your
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: own business, which is you know, it's a lot harder
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: than a normal nine to five.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: Well done, Thank you, thanks so much, huge effort.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: It definitely builds you up as a parent.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: And I mean, as you said, you two, you have two,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: and it's hard. Two was hard for us, don't get
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: me wrong. Three was hard for us.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: They were all hard.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: And my husband always says that to people that approach him,
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: is like they were all hard.
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: All ages were hard. It's just you have no choice
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: but to make this your new heart for your.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Teeth and get it done. But now that you're at five,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: have a six.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Really keep it on that flow app right, You.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Don't need to worry about flow because flows in the bin.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: Five weeks postpartum, I and Sam booked in for him
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: to get the snip.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Okay, good.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: I could not get my chiefs tied in Amata hospital
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: without a medical reason for it, because it is surely.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: Medical.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: I try, but yeah, religious for the religious reasons, that
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: hospital won't let you do it.
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: And that's fine.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: So Sam, when I took one for the team at
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: five weeks postpartum.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: You're the real hero, Sam, I've been.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I've been snipped as well, and I walk around my
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: house like a hero.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: So be Your point was, so you're going to understand
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: this what I'm going to say. He went to the
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: appointment and Sam rings me. I'm in the car park
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: and he goes He's called doctor Dick.
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: His name's Richard.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: You come to the right place.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Went to the.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: Same college as our obi like random. But anyways, he
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: goes shout. He's saying, you can come in. You can
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: actually watch the surgery. I'm like on it here, try
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: watching holding his shoulders and like going, you've got this.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: I'm at that end of the bed. And then he goes, no,
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: come down here and take some videos and photos. This
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: guy's hilarious and I'm like okay. So I stand theary's
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: chest and he's like, do you want to do the
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: honors and snip it? And I'm like no, because if
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: that thing reattaches, I'm good.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like remembering it, don't just snip it. Remove it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: Anyways, so I'm filming it and it's just so funny
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: he's playing with it's just really I'm like, wow, we're
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: really flipped the tables.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Anyways, he gets it all done.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: I video at SA Sam Conchot the bras nice and
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: we get to the recovery bit where the nurse is like, okay, sorry,
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: here's the aftercare.
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: He can't do any heavy lifting, and I'm just like,
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: I'm still.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: Got I just had two kids taken out of me
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: five weeks ago.
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: They're still taking They're still.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: In the niku at the moment, I'm like the poor
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Sam over here with the.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: One stitch o guy. Like it was. It was heavy
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: and it was like really confrontings.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Did they They also mentioned that how, I mean, you've
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: got what three months and the X amount of ejaculates
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: before you've got to get tested?
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: Did he go back and get tested?
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: So she's she's looking at me and she goes okay,
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: So Han, he needs to ejaculate twenty seven times.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I'll cut you here. Why are you looking
• 44:48
  Speaker 5: at me? And she goes oh, And Sam's like, Shannie,
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: shut up.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: If you leave it to him, will be done in
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: three days.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: I just gave birth to two babies, babies four and five.
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: They're all under six, and that was five weeks ago.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: He will be getting himself off twenty seven times. And
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: She's just like okay, So Sam, and Sam's just like challenge,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: excepted say, shunning is ste guysing?
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I haven't been retested me either, so
• 45:16
  Speaker 5: kid you not.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Probably one person I know that's had it done has
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: actually had the retest done, but him and his brother
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: need to go get retested.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: And I thought that could be a cute thing they
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: could do together.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Watch each other.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Sean, tell there's a story that we found out about
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: your situation. I know this is a bit of a
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: traumatic when it's it's probably every parent's worse fear. Yeah,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: but it involved which one the swimming pool.
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: Two years ago.
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: Pretty much in a couple of weeks, it will be
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: two years to the date that, Yeah, that was you.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Just you know, it's a possibility. You know how to
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: protect everything, you do everything by the book, but there's
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: things that you cannot control. And one for us is
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: the fact that we have older there's more than one child.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: We could be as safe and shut front doors, shut
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: garage doors, shut poolgates, fix things, put things away, but
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: you can't see what the older ones are doing and
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: what they're forgetting to put away or what they're forgetting
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: to check all the time. And that was the twenty
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: second or twenty third of December. We were prepping the house.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Sam and I were running around like headless chooks while
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: the twins were sleeping or not crying and trying to
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: clean the house and get it ready for all our
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: family to come over. And I just remember seeing Paris,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: our third child. Here is the bravest kid. He literally
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: has no fear, and this is how it happened. This
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: is the issues. Our boys are so boisterous and they
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: have no fear. And I remember watching him jump on
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: the trampoline. They do it after they go for a
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: swim to dry off, and they call it like being
• 47:02
  Speaker 4: a lizard. They lay down on the mat on the
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: tramp and they were all jumping, and then I remember
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: looking back and he wasn't in the trampoline, and he's
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: so loud, so you know where he is. And I
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: turned and I noticed that the pool gate was slightly opened.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: There was a toy in the way, like a seat thing,
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: and I just remember dropping my phone and then walking close.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: I couldn't see anything in the pool because he was
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: so tucked up against the wall, and I remember walking
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: and I saw the head and I just screamed, like
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: bloody murder, Sam's name. It was like the worst exorcism
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: voice that came out. Neighbors everyone heard it. I jumped in,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: grabbed him and he was this dead flop, like complete flop.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: Oh my, my husband came running out and I almost
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: just like dropped him into his arms and then he's screaming.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Called the ambulance, called the ambulance and I couldn't find
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: my phone. I didn't know what I did with it,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: and so I'm running inside trying to check everything and
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: could not find a phone. And he's yelling call the
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: ambulance as he appliing that performing CPR and then I
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: find it.
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: I'll call them.
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: And by the time the answer I turn around, Comparis
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: is up and Sam's holding them and he's just like crying,
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: but he's like fine, So I'm calling. I'm telling them
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: what's happened. They're coming straight over. We were able to
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: check the camera footage so that we could tell them
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: exactly how long he had gone under for and also
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: for the counsel.
• 48:31
  Speaker 5: That they come and they checked for negligence. So really,
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: you know, we had.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Everything to make sure that we were to the strict
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: Queensland safety guidelines like our pool and everything like, you know,
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: it wasn't our negligence and how that happened to the
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: child and he was under for two minutes ten fuckhah,
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: so long.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: And like goose bumps that.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: And he was only two two years old, He's tiny.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: He blacked out at one minute twenty. You can see
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: him just give up. I could have watched the video.
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: Sam sent it to me when I was in hospital,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: but I didn't watch it, but he watched it, and
• 49:12
  Speaker 4: I don't think i'll ever watch it, to be honest.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: But we went into hospital. They did all the checks,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: they did all the scans, and they come in and
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: this is the end of our journey there.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: We'd stayed overnight.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: They're like, Okay, the report is there is not one
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: single thing wrong with your son. We can't find a
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: single thing. He has blocked his He's like completely blocked,
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: so no fluid went down, nothing went in his lungs.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: He's not at risk of pneumonia anything. There's no temperature
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: on your child. There is nothing. He's passing all the
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: like neurological chests and things like that.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm assuming they're kind of saying this.
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: They're like, that's a miracle.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, gosh, I need to take any water
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: in to his lungs.
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: Nothing his body, like.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: A muscle contracted.
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't normally happen and definitely not at that age.
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: We walked out of that hospital. Literally both just walked.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: Out of that hospital, and they're like, count your blessings
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: and Merry Christmas and I was.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Like, holy shit, did you like straight away after old
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: have like on green at the bull up?
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: We were like and we didn't have to tell our
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: boys because they were shocked.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: They were they saw the whole thing.
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: We went straight online and I was like, if there
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: is one thing that I can do to try redeem
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: the situation, is everyone's gone and going to be around
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: a pool for Christmas with their friends and family, and
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: they're all going to drop the ball. They're all going
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: to turn a blind eye. They're going to be more relaxed,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: they are going to they're not going to think about
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: what the older kids.
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: Might be doing.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: And so we went online and we just spread, we
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: like fully spread the awareness of you need to watch
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: pool gates, you need to be on the ball, You
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: need to allocate someone to consistently watch the kids in
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: the pool and check the gates, just like yeah.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: You know, if it makes you feel any any better.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: But when Marley was really young, we only had I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: think Lola might have been a newborn. At our old house,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: we had a little paddle pool and stupidly we know
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: not to fill it up any like any higher than
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: like ankle deep water. But we filled it up really high.
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: We had friends over and it was one of those
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: situations where you're kind of entertaining. You got friends over.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Laura and I kind of got lost and who's looking
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: after Marley. We had a front and a backyard. The
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: paddle pool was in the front, and it got to
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: a point where we said, where's Marley And we were
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: looking around, couldn't find her. And luckily she was just
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: too small. She was trying, she'd been trying to climb
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: into the paddle pool which was filled up like she
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and she was only you know, she was crawling at
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: this stage. And you know, we think, gosh, it's so
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: easy to just lose them for a split second, and
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: you think you mentioned before, you're like two minutes ten,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: that's a long time, but you think, gosh, it could
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: have been, could have been so much worse.
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: It's can change in an instance, and you just never
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: ever want to take take away the joy in each
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: day and the opportunity to have each day. I think
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: that's what really brought us closer as a unit, is
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: like it might be really hard to have five kids,
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: but we would never change it for the world. And
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: to have that dangled in front of us with the twins,
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: and then also with that situation, it was like we
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: are so lucky and so blessed, like we would never
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: ever complain about having five kids.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: Ever, I don't think anyone would.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: But I just I know that those moments have really
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: shone forward for us to be so appreciative of the
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: blessing and the opportunity to have five healthy babies and
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: to have these situations that have managed that we've managed
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to take lessons away with without having the full hardship
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: of what could have been.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta ask chan. Tell my good friend Ash
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: over here is just joined the gym, and not to
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: put them on the spot, but I you know, if
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: ever there was a time to ask an expert on
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the topic of fitness, we're talking to one of the
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: fittest moms in the country. Do you have any advice
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: for Ash right now? He was getting back into the gym.
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I have my own app new
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: that's my nameless plug jump on, get it going. No,
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: but honestly following a program going there and thinking I'm
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: going to go in there and do chests on Monday,
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: chests on Tuesday, chest on Wednesday.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: That's my exact plan.
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: Because the bigger the chest, the small the shirt won't
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: touch the tummy.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: That's actually nice. I'm going to run with that.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: No, So first of all, follow a program, making sure
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: that you've got structure. You're training with a purpose. There's
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: intention behind your training, not pushing a new film. There
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: is a low impact strength program which is all scientifically
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: back that program so it's very it's got the repetitiveness
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: to it so that you can consistently work on edging
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: out improvements, heavier and getting that progressive overload which is
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: just going to build you up, which is obviously an
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: easier way to burn fat than having to do hours
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: of cardio. But the other thing, nutrition is key and
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: hitting your protein, so making sure that you eat the
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: right amount of protein each day to compliment the both.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: So how much protein is the matter.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: And if I hit my protein goes through beers that
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: count absolutely not.
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: But you will fight. That's a good galance. There's good.
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: You're gotta have low stress, so I mean if that
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: lowers your stress, perfect, But no, heat your protein and
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: train in a structured way that is intentionally making sure
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: that every time you hit the gym you're actually training
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: with progression. You're not just going there because it's fluffy
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: and it makes you feel good and you get away.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: From the kids.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Remind us the name of the app.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: It's called new Form n eu Form and it's available
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: on Apple Android. It's got a seven day free trial.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: And yeah, it's my baby. It's the way that we
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: have trans formed hundreds and hundreds of lives throughout our
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: gym history, and now we're making it available for people
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: around the world.
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: And we'll leave it in the show notes of this
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: as well. And thank you for the advice. Actually I
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: needed that.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the new ash.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be jacked.
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Take before photos because marketing.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: We just released a calendar that's got plenty of before photos.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Trust me, I did see that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: I would like to get one for my husband because
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: now you guys need to be worse friends.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: We will send one to Queensland. Don't worry about that.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: He last question before we go, We always asked our guests,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: what would be the one thing you want your kids
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: to remember about the house they grew up in.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: Oh, I want them to remember they had just so
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: much spontaneous fun. Like growing up there was so much
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: spontaneous fun. Whether it's like we're about to go to bed,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: screw it, Let's.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: Go on the pool. Let's have an night swim, or.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: You know, let's have a dance party because someone had
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: a bad day, or let's just go for two nights camping,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: like let's just take a couple of swags and all
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: do the crued sleeping pile technique. Just random spontaneous fun.
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: Because my husband is an absolute clown.
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: And he keeps me.
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: Like living life to its fullest. So I just hope
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: my children can see that in our family.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: I love that. I know I've said it before, but
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I've got to say it again. You guys are doing
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: such an amazing job, not just with raising a family,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: but also with your business as well, So keep it up.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: It's bloody impressive.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: I appreciate it, guys, and I appreciate it coming on
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: and having a chat five kids.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it.
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: It's crazy, it's crazy, but chantelle, thank you so much.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: Appreciate it, guys. Thank you.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Dad is one of the more intense conversations I think
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: I've had a didn't plan on it being that hectic,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: but hearing about a child almost drowning, You're like, holy shit.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I do recall looking at myself in the camera and
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: my facials were.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: Pretty draw on the floor.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Holy shit. Such an awesome chat. Huge thanks to Chantelle
• 56:57
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• 57:00
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• 57:09
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• 57:32
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• 57:36
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• 57:39
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• 57:43
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