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- 1:10Speaker 1: listening to taking stock with pim Box and Kathleen Hayes
- 1:14Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. An exit x M Bank stalemate delayed
- 1:20Speaker 1: some plane deliveries. That's according to Boeing, a headline that
- 1:24Speaker 1: ran on the Bloomberg yesterday. Uh. In fact, Jackie Collins,
- 1:29Speaker 1: writing in The New York Times, rites earlier in the
- 1:31Speaker 1: week that Tomorrow Thursday is an ignominious anniversary for the
- 1:35Speaker 1: government agency that helps finance foreigners purchases of American exports.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Thanks to a single senator, it's been a full year
- 1:42Speaker 1: that the eighty two year old Export Inport Bank could
- 1:45Speaker 1: approve deals exceeding ten million dollars, a limit that rules
- 1:48Speaker 1: out high dollar deals on airplanes, power generations, heavy equipment,
- 1:51Speaker 1: and New Year actors. No wonder that Boeing has reported
- 1:54Speaker 1: that news. Now, let's introduce a man who is the
- 1:57Speaker 1: head of the x M Bank is here to talk
- 2:00Speaker 1: to us about what's going on and what it means
- 2:02Speaker 1: for exports from the United States. Fred Hawkbird Chairman and
- 2:06Speaker 1: President of the Export Import Bank of the United States,
- 2:10Speaker 1: joining me in studio. Thank you for coming in, Thanks
- 2:12Speaker 1: for having me so. First of all, remind people what
- 2:14Speaker 1: the excellent Bank is. It's not quite a hundred years old,
- 2:17Speaker 1: but it's been around for a while, around for a while.
- 2:19Speaker 1: The Export Inport Bank United States is a trade bank
- 2:23Speaker 1: for the United States. We've had it since nineteen two.
- 2:25Speaker 1: FDR started it. And the understanding that to create more jobs,
- 2:29Speaker 1: we need to do more exporting and their risks and
- 2:32Speaker 1: both real and imagine from exporting. So the x and
- 2:35Speaker 1: Bank was created to support US jobs and we sell
- 2:38Speaker 1: goods overseas, level the playing field with foreign competitors, and
- 2:42Speaker 1: phill the market gaps and emerging economies places like that. Now,
- 2:47Speaker 1: I think over the years, people who think the exce
- 2:49Speaker 1: and Bank isn't worth it isn't needed. Maybe I should
- 2:52Speaker 1: say is that this is a globalized world. Small even
- 2:57Speaker 1: small and medium businesses are exporting much more than they
- 3:00Speaker 1: used to, not just the big ones. But as you
- 3:03Speaker 1: get ready to release your Competitiveness Reports Summary for twenty fifteen,
- 3:08Speaker 1: you have some some factoids that I think paint a
- 3:11Speaker 1: somewhat different picture. You say, for example, that export credit
- 3:15Speaker 1: agencies are much more important now and finding financing exports
- 3:18Speaker 1: for large pro projects in emerging markets, and that foreign
- 3:23Speaker 1: e c a s are getting a lot more aggressive
- 3:26Speaker 1: on behalf of their exporters. And I guess that's your
- 3:28Speaker 1: argument for the U S and two. Well, right now,
- 3:30Speaker 1: you know, when we look at global growth, global growth
- 3:32Speaker 1: is slowing. One of the key drivers of growth around
- 3:35Speaker 1: the world, not just in the United States, but his exports.
- 3:38Speaker 1: You see monetary policy as somewhat run its course. It's
- 3:41Speaker 1: hard to do fiscal stimulus, not just in the US
- 3:44Speaker 1: but elsewhere. So more and more countries are turning to
- 3:47Speaker 1: exports to drive their economy and drive job growth, and
- 3:50Speaker 1: hence it's far more competitive and much tougher and much
- 3:54Speaker 1: more competitive environment for US companies competing. There eight five
- 3:59Speaker 1: export credit agencies in sixty seven countries around the world,
- 4:02Speaker 1: and yet in last year more than sevent of medium
- 4:06Speaker 1: and long term export credit support fell outside the o
- 4:08Speaker 1: e c D arrangement. Sure, let me brief with the
- 4:10Speaker 1: o e c D. The Organization for Economic Corporation Development
- 4:14Speaker 1: sets the rules of the road. It's a transparent system
- 4:17Speaker 1: that says if a government follows those rules. It is
- 4:21Speaker 1: allowed under the w t O, the World Trade Organization,
- 4:24Speaker 1: and for many years that governed how governments supported their exporters.
- 4:28Speaker 1: But with the rise of China and the rise of
- 4:31Speaker 1: some other Asian countries, but particularly China, UM they fall
- 4:34Speaker 1: outside of the rules and that makes it much more
- 4:37Speaker 1: competitive for U S companies try and compete so we
- 4:39Speaker 1: get our fair share. China, as you point out, responsible
- 4:42Speaker 1: for ten times more export financing than the US, up
- 4:46Speaker 1: from eight times last year. And of course, you know
- 4:49Speaker 1: China has taken advantage of so many aspects of world trade,
- 4:52Speaker 1: and trade with the US helped hollow out our manufacturing.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You know. Uh so, I guess that would be another
- 4:57Speaker 1: reason why you say that we've got to step up
- 4:59Speaker 1: and do sending and you need more support. Well, you know,
- 5:02Speaker 1: a little over a dozen of years years ago, Kathleen,
- 5:05Speaker 1: we were the largest single export in the entire world.
- 5:07Speaker 1: We are number two today, number two to China. I
- 5:10Speaker 1: believe there's no reason looking in American innovation and products
- 5:13Speaker 1: and quality, we can't be number one again. But companies
- 5:17Speaker 1: need the tools. XM Bank is one of those tools.
- 5:19Speaker 1: We can't rely on trade sanctions alone to drive our economy.
- 5:23Speaker 1: So why does the U. S. Senator richarch shall Bey,
- 5:26Speaker 1: Republican from Alabama, once a bank supporter UH, block the
- 5:31Speaker 1: renewal of the regulations the go ahead that you need
- 5:34Speaker 1: to move ahead, and it's been almost a year that
- 5:36Speaker 1: you've had to pull back. Well, probably should ask Chairman
- 5:39Speaker 1: Shelby that directly. I would say that let's remember, two
- 5:43Speaker 1: thirds of the Senate voted for XM bank h A
- 5:47Speaker 1: overwhelming of the House, including a majority of all the
- 5:51Speaker 1: Republicans of the House, voted for it. So it is
- 5:54Speaker 1: quizzical why Senator Shelby has not had a hearing so
- 5:57Speaker 1: that we can evaluate the nominated the board. And let
- 6:01Speaker 1: me just add the nominee was recommended to President Obama
- 6:05Speaker 1: by Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader, and it's a Republican
- 6:08Speaker 1: seat on our board. Do you cost us taxpyer money?
- 6:13Speaker 1: We actually make money. Last year we sent four hundred
- 6:16Speaker 1: thirty million dollars to the taxpayers, UH, and since President
- 6:19Speaker 1: Obama was elected, it's north of two billion dollars we
- 6:22Speaker 1: have sent to the taxpayers. Essentially, that's the profit we
- 6:25Speaker 1: make and that even the Wall Streetjournal refers to appress
- 6:28Speaker 1: the profit we make. That we send to the Treasury.
- 6:31Speaker 1: So what is your message to Senator Shelby, What is
- 6:34Speaker 1: your message to the American people? Who I don't know
- 6:38Speaker 1: what what American people can do about this, except maybe
- 6:41Speaker 1: the the citizens of Richard Shelby stayed in voting amount
- 6:46Speaker 1: of office. He's a very powerful senator. That doesn't look
- 6:47Speaker 1: likely to happen anytime soon. Well, the key thing is
- 6:50Speaker 1: we're talking about us jobs and last year we supported
- 6:53Speaker 1: a hundred nine thousand jobs. That numbers down this year
- 6:56Speaker 1: less that we're doing less than half the business of
- 6:58Speaker 1: a year ago. Uh um. President Obama recently met with
- 7:02Speaker 1: Prime Minister Moti. We're looking at a nuclear power facility
- 7:06Speaker 1: for India. Without the X and Bank, that project will
- 7:10Speaker 1: not go forward and those jobs will go elsewhere, not
- 7:12Speaker 1: to the land state. So we're talking about real jobs
- 7:15Speaker 1: in small communities around this country that are in jeopardy.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So many of them have to do with manufacturing, a
- 7:20Speaker 1: very beaten up sector, but one that has been coming back.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Wilfred Hawkberg, we hope to have you back. We're gonna
- 7:26Speaker 1: follow us very closely. It's a fascinating story. Chairman and
- 7:28Speaker 1: President of the Export Import Bank of the United states
- 7:32Speaker 1: they were competitive. Survey out tomorrow. I'm Kathleen Hayes. Thanks
- 7:36Speaker 1: for joining us today on taking Stock. This is Bloomberg Radio.
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