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#341: The Club (1994) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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This had better be an incredible practical joke.
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Welcome to What's Your Least Favorite Scary Movie?
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The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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the absurd and all of our favorite.
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And least. Favorite scary movies?
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has this fan
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base. Even if we don't always get it.
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My name is Travis and it's Jesse.
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And welcome to another prom Night special.
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Yeah, we have another prom themed horror movie lined up for
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today. This week we're going to be
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talking about the club. Yeah, we're ready to rock'n'roll
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for this. That we're ready that much.
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We watched this movie last night.
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We told each other that we were not going to talk about it until
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today. We've been stewing in our
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thoughts. Over this, yeah, yeah, we have.
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Yeah. All right.
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So I don't have anything unless you got announcements.
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OK, yes, we vaguely remembered we were supposed to do a poll
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and then we never actually post one.
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But I did want to read this. This was a nice comment left on
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our Last Post. Oh yeah, yeah, our last episode
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from Tristan Canada. This is my favorite podcast.
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Every Thursday is a good day for me.
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Oh that was so sweet, man. Yeah, that message is so happy.
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Happy, yeah. Yeah, it.
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Just popped up on my phone like right after we flew through a
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fucking storm to Chicago. Very first flight in my entire
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life. I'm flying through a goddamn
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storm. That was not fun.
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It broke nearly a two week. No vomit streak for me.
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Yeah, it's just it's a bad time. It's fucking crazy, yeah, but
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that was a really nice little message.
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We also had some more zombie shouting out the new letter for
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the Patreon stickers. I missed that, sorry Lord
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Zombie, but thank you for the shout out.
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Yeah, Thanks guys. We really appreciate you guys.
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You guys are really nice guy, a lot of nice people.
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Yeah, we we love interacting with you all and here and your
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all thoughts and takes and everything and.
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Yeah, sorry if we're not like super responsive and fast so
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like be on social media all the time cuz it's just been busy.
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It's been busy, busy, but it's OK because we're here to talk
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about the club now. The club.
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Travis. Has gotten.
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Some background information. From this I've got some.
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Which is incredible because I can't even, I can't just go to
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IMDb and search the club. I like to get anything from it.
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I've been having to go to Kim Coates's profile and Scroll
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down. Yeah, I.
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Do search the club and maybe Scroll down like halfway down
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the page it'll be. There not showing up.
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I did this like 3 or 4 times. Are you spelling at the curb or
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are you spelling at the club? I'm.
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Spelling at the club. OK.
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And it was getting to the point where I was like, maybe this is
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one of those movies that, like, most people know it as the club,
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but it's actually called something.
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Else, well, we do have an alternate potential name that
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we're going to be talking about here.
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In a while, boy. Yeah, it's going to be very
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relevant. So we're going to get into it.
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Let's do it. So the club, this movie came
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out. It premiered in March of 1994.
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I have 5-4 different. Days 32.
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I've got a lot of dates for different releases here.
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So it premiered at the Brussels Fantastic Film International
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Film Fest in March 1994, had its wide release which was, you
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know, just straight to video May 4th, 1994, had its German TV
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premiere on August 29th, 1995, and then it made its Hungry
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premiere in January 20th, 2007. Really makes her hungry and
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premiere every night at About. Six.
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I'm happy for them. Then they were clamoring for the
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club over there. People have been talking about
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the club. They had to have it, the people
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demanded. Happy for them.
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If you want to watch it right now, you can watch it on Prime
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to be Fright Night or Fossum. We watched it on Prime because
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that was the lesser of the ad options for us, but if you don't
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have Prime there are plenty of free options there, so we
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recommend that for sure. Written by Robert C Cooper,
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directed by Britain Spencer, Music by Peter Brenner and Paula
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Zaza. Special effects make up by Brock
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Joliff, Francois Desjanais. Fucking Francois Desjanais.
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Uh huh. That's the saga.
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Right. Yeah.
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I know, right? And Robert Sheridan, Wow, isn't
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this. See, this is the thing about
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this movie. This movie is such a fucking
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bizarre like grouping of talent. It is so weird.
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And it doesn't stop here, because in the cast we have JH
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Wyman, who plays John Rodman, who was the guy in the last
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week's movie Prom Night 4 delivers from evil.
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He is stuck in his own purgatory where he must have an I'll fated
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prom night in an abandoned. Estate Kim Coates as Mr. Carver,
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who previously we've talked about on the show as Gucci Mane.
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Yeah, Detective Gucci Mane in silent.
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Hill, Andrea Roth as Amy, who you said is the mom and the
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collector, right? Yep.
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Reno Romano as Evan. No relation that I know to Ray
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Romano. It is a cool name, though.
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It is a cool name. He can maybe like we can play it
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off for a little bit. That's how he got his foot in
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the door with this, I'm sure. Zach Ward as Kyle and yes, that
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is the bully kid from the Christmas Story.
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Kelly Taylor as Laura and Matthew Ferguson as Darren
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Spencer all. Right.
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Time for our favorite game on the show.
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Budget or budget I don't. Know they got them German and
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Bulgarian and Hungarian dollars. Yeah, like years later, but they
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were banking on that like we have to big markets over there.
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I don't know I'm going to say Bug Ted, but everything about
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this fucking movie has surprised me so far.
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I know. Yeah.
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Well, I well, here's the thing. I don't have any financials for
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this one, so I don't know they. Automatically chalk up to a bug,
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Ted. This is absolutely a bug, Ted.
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If they spend over $10 million on this movie, I feel bad.
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For those of you just tuning in because you're huge, the club
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fans budget is for over 10 million and Bug Ted is for under
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10 million and that just came from a typo we found very
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endearious on a review. Yeah, it was like back there in
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the Halloween series. I think that's where that all
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started. So it was very low bug Ted and
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we're like that's how low budget it was.
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They couldn't even. Ted Yeah, yeah.
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OK, so I do have the IMDb score, may shock you.
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I don't know how you or where you stand on this, but it's a
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4.4. Yup, it is a 4.4.
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OK. And I have 3 movies from 1994 to
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compare it to. Tell me about 1994.
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I have a theme. The theme is all potential
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members of the club. Oh, that's a dark theme.
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Yeah, that's a dark theme, but it's not that bad because we're
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starting off with Knight of the Demons too, which means the
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member of the club would be Angela.
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Angela is definitely a big member of the club.
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So that release April 15th, 1990.
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Four 1.3 million budget. Don't have the gross but the
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IMDb is 5.9. Have not watched that one yet,
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but I would like to watch it. I want to re watch the remake.
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Remake was actually surprisingly good.
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Yeah, I like, I was halfway distracted when we were watching
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it and I want to, I want to give it like a full like sit down,
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pay attention, Yeah, kind of watch.
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OK, movie #2 my sweet Satan. So this is a short film.
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OK. This is from Jim Van Beeber, who
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is the director of Dead Beat a Dawn.
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I have watched this because it is on the Blu-ray that we have
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over here. It's a pretty cool little short
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film, but it's about, it's like based off of like a real life
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killer, call it like the acid killer or something like that.
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Chris. Yeah.
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It's about these people that are part of a satanic cult and they
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murder a guy because they suspect he stole drugs or
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something like that. So yes, is.
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Van Bever, OK. No, man, he's not OK.
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No, he's pretty fucked up but he made some really awesome shit
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back in the day. Like for real.
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But this movie especially but that came out.
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I don't have an exact date but 1994.
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Don't have the budget, don't have the gross but IMDb 5.9.
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You know what that tracks for Van Bever?
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Yeah, and the final movie is a movie called Animal Cloth, and
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the only reason I have this on here is because it is directed
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by U Bowl, who I suspect would be a part of the club.
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Why? He's he's made some terrible,
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terrible movies and he's also the critic or he's the guy that
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if you badmouth his movies, he has like challenged critics to
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fights. Oh, OK.
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And he's actually fought some. OK yeah.
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He just doesn't have a good reputation.
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And he made he's made some pretty shitty movies and.
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I hope he doesn't try to fight you.
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Well, I'm here for it. He's like, yeah, I think I could
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take him like it's like. He's like your first level boss
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until. Until John Carpenter, this is
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like punch out right here. Like he's he's Glass Joe.
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You guys please, please petition Scarefest, have them do whatever
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they need to do to get John Carpenter here.
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And you have. Have a ticketed event where
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Travis fights John Carpenter. This is what it is.
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This is me, John Carpenter. You bowl table, ladder, chair
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match. Yeah.
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No holds barred, baby. Yes.
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That's right. Every everything's legal.
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I love it. It's perfect.
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I will miss you. I.
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Will die. They will both gang up on me
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immediately. It's like whenever they like,
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it's like Logan Paul's in the ring and like they have like the
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like the people and they're just gang up.
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On him I was being more like in Mario Kart, when both of you
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like lose or whatever and like the other computer ones are.
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Oh yeah. Heart Super Smash Bros Like they
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can't just keeps going with the computers.
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You're like, all right, Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah, OK, so that came out February 3rd, 94500 and no
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$50,000 DM, whatever currency that is, don't have the gross.
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IMDb score 2.2. Yeah, look, he has a reputation,
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Jesse. I didn't bring him on this for
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no reason. OK, All right, so I have tag
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lines. The first one in this club.
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The initiations can be fatal. I mean, I think the whole point
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is that like, you're either going to die or you're killing
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someone. I mean, it's like it is fatal.
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It's not just a can be. And the final one, are you in?
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Got milk? She's kind of asked.
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Can I petition that to be our alternate tagline?
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Yeah, OK. Just whoever you draw in the
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art, just give them all the moustaches.
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Wait, what was the thing from Rick and Morty that Jerry said?
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Like how about them apples or something?
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Like that I thought it was just got apples.
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Got apples? How about them apples?
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Is Google hunting? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
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All right, so it's time for fun facts.
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Let's see what I could scrounge up for fun facts here all.
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Right. I'm impressed you found some.
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Yeah. I am too and this one right here
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is probably going to be the most interesting.
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So I don't know if you noticed but in the opening credits this
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was produced by Peter Simpson who is, oh shit our boy that has
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produced all the other Prom 9 movies.
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I wonder if that's how well what's his face crossed over?
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Yep. Well, see, this was originally
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supposed to be Prom Night 5, and they decided to not name it Prom
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Night 5 because they started to think that the Prom Night name
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didn't quite have the draw that it used to have.
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Man, if this had been Prom Night 5 I think it would have given
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Prom night 3 the leg up it needed in my rating.
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. But, you know, I have my own
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suspicions. I think that like, they made the
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movie, it was cut. It was going to be called Prom
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Night 5. In fact, it was actually called
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Prom Night 5 in some markets, such as Japan.
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OK. But I think like Simpson right
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here, Peter Simpson watched the final cut again and he's like,
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God damn it, my brother, my wife, my bubby, whatever.
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What Brock Simpson? It's not in this movie.
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It can't be a prom night movie. That's true.
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So they changed the name. That's my theory right there is.
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It his brother thought it was his son.
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I don't know, OK, relative. I'm sure.
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I'm sure they're related some form or fashion.
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So yeah, other than that, I got something.
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This is from IMDb so let's take this with a grain of salt, but
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allegedly Corey Haim was originally cast as John but was
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fired a few days in the filming. Really.
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Now That's what that's what they're saying?
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Maybe that's why they got JH Wyman's.
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Like he was OK in Prom Night 4, let's just get him back in.
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We can count on him. I remember watching Prom Night 4
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and I was like, he's a solid actor.
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I feel like I should see him in more things.
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And I checked his IMDb, he didn't have a whole lot going
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on. Yeah, between this and Prom
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Night, he's got some decent range.
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This movie maybe? What would my opinion of him a
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little bit more just his performance in this movie, but
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we're going to get in a second. I think it's not him.
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OK, OK, We'll we'll talk about it.
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Yeah, and the only other thing I have is it was filmed in Casa
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Loma, Toronto. Filmed from May 1993 to June
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9th, 1993. There were some very different
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Canadian accents, so. Oh yeah. 100% of Canadian
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production. Yeah, for sure.
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And that's it. That's all that I could find.
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I tried scouring the Internet for all information and there
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really isn't anything other than that.
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OK, so let's get into our talk about it.
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Our good, bad, ugly and absurd. Jesse, you got to kick it off.
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What did you like about this one?
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I like the premise is interesting because we all know
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I'm a sucker for people being stuck in a single location.
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Yeah, so that hooked me. I am never mad about a purgatory
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type movie. You're not mad about prom
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either? Not mad about prom, especially
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not mad about a medieval prom. I wish my school was cool enough
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to do something like that. That was cool.
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And they had, like, a theme for it, Yeah.
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People actually dressed up for it, even especially the king and
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queen. Like good for them.
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Do you think that they were miffed that they didn't get to
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do tuxes and like dresses though?
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I mean, the girls got to do dresses.
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I know some people, some people still wore like traditional prom
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clothing and just like did little embellishments.
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I guess, yeah, you're right, yeah.
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I just think it's cool and you know, obviously we had some some
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solid effects for it going on, which makes sense so.
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Francois Dejaney. Like you said that name and I
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was like there's there can't be two of them.
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I, you know, The funny thing is like, I wrote that down and it
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didn't register, and then I said it out loud.
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I was like Francois Dejaney. Yeah.
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What really in this? I like, yeah, they're just,
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they're such a solid cast in this.
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It's really kind of unbelievable.
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So. Yeah, I know there's a lot of
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talent behind this movie. I looked at like 90% of the
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guests in this movie are working today.
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Like they're all pretty good actors.
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It's. Crazy.
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I said last night that it was a lot like, Oh my God, I thought,
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why can't I think of her fucking name from Doom Asylum?
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Oh, I don't know her name either, but she's also in Sex in
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the City is. What you said, yeah, like.
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Kristen something. Kristen, something I can't My
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brain is just alternating between Ritter and Chenoweth.
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Kristen Davis, thank you. Yes, OK.
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OK, that's a relief. Yeah, there is just, there is a
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lot of unexpected people involved in this and I I think
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it lends itself well to the stronger points of the movie.
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OK, So what about you? I like that this movie continues
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the tradition of questionable adults in bathrooms.
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Yeah, you know what that makes the original prom night?
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Yeah, right. I know.
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See, when you think, when you know that little bit of
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information, you can start making sense of a lot of things
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in here. And as soon as I because I went
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into this movie, he appeared. To be the only chaperone as
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well. Bad move, that guy sucks.
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This is why you should do background checks before hiring
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people. He's the guidance counselor.
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It's so bad. He is the one that's like
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supposed to be there when shit goes bad.
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Yeah, so there is the most recent episode of The
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Testaments. One of the commanders wives is
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revealed to have been a counselor in the Before Times.
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And everybody in the comments is just like conversion therapy
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counselor. Like 'cause it's just bad, bad,
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bad, bad, bad vibes. I've not heard of The
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Testaments. It is a sequel to The Handmaid's
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Tale. Oh, OK.
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Yeah, OK. Interesting.
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Yeah. Yeah, she's also red flags for
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counselor and I just I feel like they'd.
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Probably they hit it off. That's not a good thing.
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Also with the right thing, because that's.
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Pretty did. She raped too.
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Well, that's kind of what Gilead has founded on.
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What the fuck? OK, cool.
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All right, moving on. All right, We're going to be
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talking about that pointy in this movie already, and it's not
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a really fun topic. So yeah, other than that, like
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some of these people gave some pretty good performances.
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Like, you know, I think that they did good considering what
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they had to work with. I will say the effects are
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pretty solid. Like, you know, nothing like
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they, they have a lot of fire stunts in this movie, which is
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cool. And John just getting linked up
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and down in the halls constantly, that probably was
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fun. That was fun.
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It happened a little too slow for me.
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It kind of got goofy looking whenever like, 'cause it like
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The thing is like you do it one time, OK, but then like
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immediately after he's like, Oh no, I'm going again.
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It's just like, and he's like going so slow and it's just
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like, all right, man. Now the I think the illusion is.
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Too used to try like people running.
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Maybe, maybe I'm looking for it now.
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I am looking for it in places. I was looking for it in the
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airport on the little like he. Was the moving sidewalks.
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He was like, I want to see people looking like Twilight.
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They did. That's about it.
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OK, all right. What'd you not like?
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OK, we say on the show all the time that every movie has its
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audience, and I'm sure that this movie has its audience.
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It does. And if you like this movie, this
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is not a personal critique of you or your tastes.
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This is a movie that's just not for me.
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Part of it to me is that it comes across kind, like I don't
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know what message is trying to send, but it comes across as
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kind of victim blamey and an empathetic.
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Yeah, it's kind of all go like that.
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Because you know the whole thing, like, oh, if you're being
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raped and you don't fight your attacker, you deserve to go to
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hell. What the fuck is?
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That that is weird, yeah. And I've never liked the whole
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rhetoric that if you kill yourself you're going to hell.
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Like that's just scaring people to stay alive and not deal with
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with their problems. Like you should have a more
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empathetic approach to somebody who's having suicidal ideation.
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It just I'm not in a good headspace to talk about this in
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the, like depth it needs to be. Yeah, talked.
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But I just I had a lot of problems with the way this may
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be framed, some very serious subjects.
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Yeah, it's a little bit. It's some really heavy topics.
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Some really heavy topics. It doesn't take them.
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Like I said, it doesn't take seriously in the right way.
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The tone is kind of all over the place, and that just fucking
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ends. Yeah, the ending is so confusing
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to me. I, I looked it up and I was
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going to like go over this whenever we I guess talk about
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it, but like I'm if we need to consult the Internet to try and
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figure out what the fuck is happening in this movie, I'm
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ready to dive in there and do so.
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I already did that for the ending.
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That way I could have an understanding of what happened
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because I was so confused. Yeah, to me, it just seemed like
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we we jumped back in time and he's decided that even though
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most of them faced their fears in the purgatory or whatever,
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like, oh, bad things are still going to happen to I just.
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It seems like, see The thing is maybe we should save this for
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later. Or maybe not.
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I mean this is like a spoiler. Yeah, we're we're in a spoiler
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point. Yeah.
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Like the way that I read it was that they returned back without
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any recollection of what happened.
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So I don't understand how and like the events kind of play out
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like they were going to play out.
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And The thing is, I don't understand why they did that in
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the 1st place if they weren't going to recall any of that or
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have any growth from the experience and.
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That was actually like a major point at the end of The Good
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Place. What are you saying more than
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that for people who don't want? Spoilers, I know what you're
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talking about, but like they but they they do have change yeah,
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they in that show they tweaked. That they tweaked that a little
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bit. That was one of the things that
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they discussed when they were trying to figure their thing
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out. But in this right here, it's
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just like it meant nothing. Yeah.
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So why even happen in the first place?
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But yeah, OK. Do you have anything else bad to
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talk about? At points it felt like it was
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being trippy just for trippiness sake.
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Yeah. Like it didn't feel like it was
22:32
adding anything to the movie except for maybe runtime.
22:35
Add some weird what I like I remember like the shots like the
22:41
IT felt very 90s where like, you know that moment where he is
22:45
like turning into the judge. He's like giving them a
22:47
presentation and like the cameras all warped and stuff
22:49
like that. That's like something that you
22:50
would see on like a commercial growing up or on like Nick or
22:54
something like that. Movie at times felt like a cross
22:57
between Pink Floyd's The Wall and a Jim Carrey movie.
23:01
Yeah, dude, I had Jim Carrey written down in here too.
23:04
Like that's actually one of my absurd things.
23:07
So we'll get to that here in a moment, OK?
23:11
You got anything else? That's that's it.
23:13
OK, the very shallow version of it.
23:18
OK, so for me, my thing is it was very confusing.
23:24
So it starts off and then shit happens and then there's a lot
23:28
of wandering around and then no idea what's happening.
23:33
And I had no, I got was lost for like a major part of it.
23:37
And The thing is, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
23:41
Like I don't have to have everything spelled out for me
23:44
right out the gate, but it was just boring throughout the
23:49
entire thing. It's them just wandering these
23:51
empty halls and like they're running into alternate versions
23:55
of themselves. And then like, it's just there's
23:58
a lot happening and I'm just not really grasping any structure
24:03
from what was happening here. And I don't know if that was the
24:05
intention or not, but I, I was just so lost.
24:10
But the thing that just got me the most is that it was just so
24:13
water meandering and it was just boring.
24:15
Like whenever they were doing that.
24:17
Like there are interesting moments in the movie.
24:20
Like, we do have some good moments, but it's just it's so
24:24
few and far between. To make a rare Family Guy
24:26
reference for me, walking up the stairs and walking down the
24:30
stairs and walking up the sideways stairs.
24:33
Yep, it's a lot of that. It is a lot of that in this
24:36
movie right here. I mean, but I mean more or less,
24:39
that's basically it. So I didn't think that that dude
24:44
did like a good performance that that plays John in this, right.
24:48
Here I think he was working with what he was given.
24:51
OK, you already kind of brought it, so this is like a little
24:53
preview into my absurd. But basically, like I said, he's
24:56
a cross between Ace Ventura and Freddy.
24:59
Yeah, and that's how he played it.
25:01
He played it kind of like Ace Ventura but also doing like
25:04
Freddy Krueger type stuff. Yes.
25:07
He can't pull off that performance.
25:10
I think he needed to go a different route with that
25:12
character. I it feels like one of those it.
25:16
I don't want to make any assumptions, but it feels like
25:19
it was director guided. It could have been, yeah, I
25:23
looked up the the director and he's done some things like he
25:27
was a he was mostly like camera operator stuff like I'm like
25:30
Rambo and a lot of like classic movies and stuff like that.
25:35
But this may have been his like first chance to actually direct
25:38
something, so I. Don't know.
25:40
And I'm not saying that like, necessarily like that.
25:43
I think the director 100% did it.
25:45
It could be a cross between things and it could just be like
25:49
swinging a miss. I'm not calling it good or bad
25:53
either way. I'm just saying like there's
25:56
multiple people involved just making the movie and we've seen
25:59
him. We've seen him act in other
26:01
things, so we know that he's got Yeah.
26:03
He was good and prominent for it for sure.
26:05
I liked him in that. So maybe this isn't his
26:07
wheelhouse, or maybe it was just a different kind of environment
26:10
like we could be. We don't know.
26:12
Yeah, I guess that's true. All right, let's go to ugly.
26:14
The rape and the domestic violence.
26:16
Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much
26:18
that'll cover it right there. Like it's just, it's just, it's
26:23
a lot. It's just a lot.
26:25
Yeah, like having one of the main motivators in this movie
26:31
being the fact that the guidance counselor is about to rape one
26:34
of the students. Apparently he does this a lot.
26:36
He's got a lot of victims under his belt.
26:38
Yeah, it's, it's fucked up. Also we're fucking daring,
26:45
struggling with stuff and. You feel bad for him and he's
26:49
not handling in a great way, but at the same.
26:51
Time fucked off halfway through the movie like we don't like.
26:54
There's no resolution to his character.
26:57
He just dies, he just joins the club.
26:59
And it's so like, and we don't get like, that's such a heavy
27:02
thing and we don't get any recognition of that.
27:04
We have somebody die at the hands of her boyfriend.
27:09
We don't get any real resolution to that because the movie just
27:12
ends with Amy about to get raped.
27:17
And I'm sorry, this is like, I know we've already said several
27:21
things now, but huge fucking trigger warning for because
27:24
we're not going to be able to not talk about it because these
27:28
are like cornerstones of the film.
27:31
Yeah, it is. Yeah.
27:32
I'll try to remember to put a big fucking.
27:34
Content warning. Into show notes.
27:37
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
27:39
It's not one I really anticipated for this.
27:41
Year. Yeah.
27:42
No, I read the description and I was like, this sounds like it's
27:46
gonna be a fun little prom movie.
27:48
Yeah, I know, right? Yeah, nerp.
27:52
And like. Also.
27:54
Why did everybody just know Mr. Carver was going to assault Amy?
28:01
Like why was that? Like it's implied that Evan knew
28:04
and he was nervous about it. It's implied that Amy has had
28:07
nightmares about him. Like did they actually do a
28:11
background check and just said fuck it we'll hire him anyway?
28:14
I don't understand. Again, once you know that this
28:18
is a potential prom night movie, something's going to fall into
28:22
place. Hamilton High.
28:24
Do we know that? Yes, there's a banner at the
28:27
beginning that says Eastern High Prom.
28:29
Maybe they changed the name man, I'm sure that's what happened.
28:36
Fucking Jeremy Ironside cultivated terrible culture.
28:42
I mean why are just. I mean either way, like the
28:45
culture still exists there because we got a fucking
28:46
guidance counselor drunk talking about having sex with a student
28:51
in the bathroom to a student. It's so bad.
28:54
Yeah, which Speaking of that, I'm just going to go and jump
28:57
into my first. Absurd.
28:58
Which is wait. Did you even do your ugly?
29:01
I haven't. Done an I just join with you.
29:03
I mean, that's like that's that's the ugly in this movie
29:06
right here. But.
29:08
Can I have my absurd then? OK, sure.
29:11
Wall triangles wall. Triangles are.
29:14
Still deadly even outside of the Halloween universe.
29:18
Michael Myers, part of the club, yeah.
29:21
Yeah, well, we done knew that. Yeah, yeah, Wall spikes, Jesse
29:26
talked about. We need to get some of those
29:28
installed in this house. I just think they'd be a good
29:32
defense mechanism. We've seen them be incredibly
29:35
effective in movies. I mean, they have like a pretty
29:39
high success rate. Yeah.
29:42
Like Michael Myers used them, this guy used them.
29:46
It's a low sample size, but it's one.
29:48
For one on good guy versus bad guy too.
29:51
So yeah, you're right. Yeah.
29:52
I mean, odds are, oh, actually, OK, ish.
29:56
If a killer, if two killers come in, we'll get one of them,
30:01
they'll get one of us. The other two remaining will
30:04
truce it out. I mean, it's a winning formula.
30:08
I I don't think you can go wrong with that.
30:09
There's. No argument.
30:11
There there isn't. No, it's done these Sue movies.
30:14
Heck. We need to write like a fucking
30:16
thesis on it and cite these sue movies right there and.
30:20
We've been like honorary doctorates.
30:22
Yeah, probably from like Harvard.
30:24
Probably totally. OK.
30:29
You got anything else? No.
30:31
All right, so. My brain's already broken.
30:33
We only started. Back to the bathroom, right out
30:39
the gate we have Carver coming out of the stall and Evan goes
30:42
over there to pee and he walks up behind him and puts his hand
30:46
on the shoulder while he's in mid pee.
30:49
Big fucking no. No power move, No, not even.
30:54
That's just weird. Can I bring up another absurd,
30:59
now that you're mentioning it, yeah.
31:01
Why is he getting drunk in the bathroom stall if he's just
31:03
going to come out and start offering drinks to students?
31:07
Because he didn't think about it until he got drunk.
31:09
Like it was a bad idea until he got drunk.
31:11
He's like, you know what? Good idea.
31:13
Fairpoint, that is how alcohol works.
31:15
Yeah, let's see. Yeah, I guess the other one was
31:20
just Ace Ventura meets Freddy Krueger.
31:22
I mean, that's all I have right there.
31:24
But really, this whole movie is just so fucking weird.
31:26
I wish I wish I could have found a copy of the wall for you to
31:29
watch before this because I know we briefly talked about it and
31:33
you would understand the references.
31:35
That no, we can watch it. There's ways we can watch it.
31:38
Yeah, yeah, I need to watch it, though.
31:41
I if it's The thing is, if you're saying that it's kind of
31:44
if this reminds you of that movie, I don't know if I want to
31:47
watch it. I mean, no, it's just there are
31:53
like things reminiscent of it. OK, you know there, I mean, this
31:58
movie has a lot of like things that I would say like like a lot
32:03
of movies that I like. There are a lot of things in
32:06
there. Yeah, there are a lot of things
32:07
in this movie that we should be going.
32:09
This is a great movie to where it's not for the lack of Brock
32:14
Simpson. We would be happy to have you
32:16
have it in the Prom Night universe.
32:18
I'm not going to lie, I think he would have maybe bumped it.
32:20
Probably would have. No.
32:23
OK, well, let's rate it then. What do you got?
32:27
3 1/2 I just don't like this movie.
32:30
It's not for me and I'm not judging anybody who likes it.
32:35
I just didn't have a good time. That's totally fine man.
32:37
In my head, I've been a three the entire time.
32:39
OK. So yeah. 3.25 starting every.
32:42
It's rare that we go well on the show, yeah, but you know, like,
32:45
sometimes it happens. Sometimes it happens.
32:47
And it's totally cool if you like it.
32:49
We're not going to shoot on it for the sake of shitting on
32:51
that. Like we're going to talk about
32:52
some good stuff that we like. People shit on plenty of movies
32:54
that I love and it's fine. I understand what my taste is.
32:59
Yeah, all. Right, so let's get into it.
33:02
Starts off limos at a castle on a stormy night.
33:05
See, that's poetic it. This should have been a great
33:07
movie. Yeah, right.
33:09
Then we cut to a banner that says Eastern High Prom 1993.
33:14
You're missing the big X on there.
33:16
Blow it in tiny handwriting is Hamilton.
33:22
We see. Can you imagine?
33:24
No, no, no, hold on a second. If this wait, no, this is a
33:27
different night. I was thinking like if this is
33:28
part of like the prom night. Like you know how in the last
33:31
prom night opening we had oh shit, I dropped my phone.
33:35
Those spiked really loud on our. Sorry to get in, the cats are
33:42
now howling at us. OK, sorry that sounds.
33:45
Like Charlie and Frank's apartment right now.
33:48
It does. OK.
33:50
No, no, OK. We were talking about the
33:54
opening of the last movie. Oh my God, the cats are now
33:57
fighting. How crazy it was that night.
34:02
Yeah. It was in the 50s.
34:04
Mary. Lou, Yeah, yeah, For a second
34:06
there I was thinking that this is the same night, but no, this
34:09
is 93, This is 93 when this is all happening.
34:11
It would be fun if it was the same night as the.
34:15
Cuz you would have very Lou, fucking Father Jonas, and
34:20
fucking Carver. Yeah, going all at once.
34:23
Just crazy. Carver matriculated at Hamilton
34:25
High. Graduated there.
34:28
Yeah. Yeah, there we go.
34:32
All right. Yeah.
34:33
OK. That, that'll, that'll do it for
34:36
me. OK, I think.
34:38
So hard my stomach hurts. OK, so we have one couple in
34:42
love. This is Evan and Amy.
34:43
Yes, they're talking about this is the night they're gonna do
34:45
it. Yeah, we have one girl, Laura.
34:49
She is talking to John about leaving her boyfriend, but he's
34:52
violent. And this is another knit I have
34:55
to pick because there's a reason that people get stuck in abusive
35:02
relationships. Because by the time you realize
35:05
that it's abusive and you have to leave, you've been isolated.
35:09
You've been had like your resources taken away and your
35:13
very life is at stake. And that's what fucking ends up
35:17
happening to Laura in this movie.
35:18
She gets she works up the courage to leave him and she
35:23
gets pushed over a God damn rail in a stone castle.
35:26
And look, I'm not defending this guy at all, but he's also going
35:29
through his own shit. This dude, like recently lost, I
35:32
think his father is what they said.
35:34
And he's having a hard time dealing with it.
35:36
And apparently one of the issues between the two of them is that
35:39
he can't get it up, which is like a big wedge between the two
35:43
of them. Yes, he's got emotional things
35:45
happening. Not defending him.
35:48
Cool motive of still murder. No, I'm not to quote Brooklyn
35:51
99. Not defending him, I'm just
35:53
saying it just sucks because it seems like, and it's not a good
35:57
scenario whatsoever because he's going to.
35:59
Because I mean, yeah, he had trauma and he has a lot of shit
36:02
going on that doesn't give him an excuse to act the way that he
36:04
does sorts here. Like he still needs to be in
36:06
control of himself. I do feel bad for him that he's
36:09
not getting support. Yes, that's where I'm getting.
36:12
Those are fair points to make. Yes, absolutely.
36:14
Yeah, two things can be true at once.
36:16
Yeah. And I mean.
36:17
Truly, she is the victim here though.
36:18
Like, yeah, because yeah, she's about to die.
36:21
And then John. Is also talking to Darren
36:23
Spencer and he's like, yeah you're ugly.
36:25
Anyway, he didn't say it quite like that, but basically like
36:29
that. And because we didn't get
36:30
Darren's name until about 5 minutes before he dies, I just
36:33
wrote him as ugly kid in my notes the whole way.
36:36
I yeah, it was weird. The young Frankie Cheeks.
36:40
Because that's what his voice, Oh my God, he was.
36:42
Like Frankie Cheeks. So you even had, like, the hat?
36:44
Kind of. Yeah, yeah.
36:46
Just a lot more hair like we have this one.
36:48
Dude, it's, it's Carver. He's watching from behind like
36:51
one of the columns at the prom. He's just, he couldn't be any
36:54
more. Of a stereotypical villain if he
36:58
tried. He's so fucking creepy, but he's
37:00
just. Watching Amy and Evan goes to
37:04
the bathroom. Meanwhile, Kyle and Laura have
37:08
snuck off to go to a bedroom to start making out.
37:12
So we're in the bathroom and Evan's going over for pee and
37:17
oh, what's his face here? Carver comes over, puts sand on
37:20
his shoulder, and talks about how good of a fuck he thinks
37:23
Sammy would be. It's gross.
37:24
Can I break up the? Grossness with a joke you
37:26
reminded me of. Sure, How do you catch a unique
37:30
rabbit? How unique up?
37:33
On it. Unique up on it.
37:35
How do you catch a tame rabbit? You tame tame way.
37:40
How do you? Catch a unique.
37:42
Polar bear how? You cut a hole.
37:46
In the ice and then you put some peas next to the hole in the ice
37:50
and when the polar bear goes to take a pee you kick it in the
37:52
ice hole. What the fuck?
37:57
This scene reminded you of this. No, the way you say he goes to.
38:00
Take a pee, OK? Like this guy, this creepy guy
38:06
goes over there and talks to this guy's like about his
38:08
girlfriend. He's like, Oh my God, this
38:09
reminds me of this. I need to find a way to.
38:11
Have fun. I'm talking about this.
38:13
OK? Yeah.
38:15
Fair enough. Fair enough.
38:17
Yeah. I mean, he weirds Evan out.
38:19
Yeah, he should. Evan, Kind of.
38:22
Goes away, but John's also in the bathroom and he's like yeah,
38:26
kind of know what you do there. I know your whole deal.
38:29
You're going to go try and rape her like you've done with all
38:32
the other people. Seven other sexual.
38:34
Assaults and four murders, yeah, it's like.
38:38
Holy shit. Yeah.
38:39
And at first I thought we. Were going to have like a cool
38:41
vigilante movie and I was like, yeah, but.
38:44
Like. Carver stomps the.
38:47
Shit out of him, Yeah, he. Beats the absolute fuck out of
38:51
him. He's like making 5.
38:52
Murders and then. That would have been so.
39:05
Badass. If he did that, he's just like,
39:07
make it 5. It's just just fucking curves,
39:11
Thompson. I mean, that's what happens
39:14
here. OK, look, that's around.
39:18
This bathroom is all porcelain and ancient stone.
39:23
John's ghost body doesn't stand a chance against it.
39:26
And I'm not going to dig into the metaphysics of this because
39:29
my brain can't handle that conversation right now.
39:32
Yeah, you just killed a. Ghost, How do you do that?
39:36
Rage. And alcohol.
39:38
You got so drunk. He stomped the shit out of a
39:41
ghost man. Holy shit, that's.
39:44
So fucking drunk. Oh shit.
39:49
I'm ghost stomp and drunk. Yeah, holy shit.
39:53
I'm so drunk I can stomp a ghost.
39:57
Oh man, I'm kind of glad I chose this man, you know?
40:05
OK. Midnight strikes.
40:09
And all of the windows endure slam because it's a spooky
40:12
place. And apparently, no, none of the
40:14
other 300 people here are at risk of going to hell.
40:17
Just, you know, the potential rape victim, the domestic
40:20
violent victim, the child who lost his dad and his impotent
40:24
and is now turning into a murderer.
40:26
Why is Evan part of? This.
40:29
Why? What's his thing?
40:30
Because he's not killing Carver. Yeah, pretty much I get.
40:33
OK. The not white.
40:35
Knight. Yeah, I guess.
40:37
And. The child.
40:39
Who is suicidal? But his guidance counselor is
40:42
too busy planning his assault of another student to help him deal
40:46
with his depression. Jesus Christ, this is some of
40:50
these people. I understand why they're there,
40:53
most of them. Well, I guess he is a minion of
40:58
hell yeah. You know you like.
41:00
It's kind of like, it's like he's got to have.
41:02
Plausible deniability. He's like, OK, clearly we're not
41:05
like we'll pull the Ravens and murder.
41:06
It's like cabin in the. Ways and I get the end she's
41:09
like we do it while we can like, you know we take what we can get
41:12
here Yeah. All right.
41:14
There's a like, there's a lot of virgins in this cast, though, in
41:18
this movie. What?
41:19
Like. This Castor.
41:21
In the like the the characters this cast of.
41:24
Characters I know those actors didn't.
41:26
Fuck yeah, yeah, cuz. Like Amy and Evan haven't done
41:32
it yet. Prom night was going to be their
41:33
special night. Yeah, Kyle and Laura, I think
41:36
that they may have at 1:00. Point.
41:39
I don't know, I don't know. It's hard to say it's.
41:41
Hard to say they've tried, I feel.
41:42
Like Darren hasn't. Cuz he's got kind of the whole
41:45
Darren hasn't. I can definitely say Darren has
41:50
not. I'm just saying for like a
41:56
horror. Movie, it is refreshing to not
41:58
have all of the same tropes yeah and John, he's like.
42:01
Yeah, my day is from another school.
42:04
Yeah. You don't know her?
42:05
Yeah. Lisa Resnick.
42:07
Yeah, she doesn't even come up in this movie, does she?
42:10
I don't. Think so?
42:12
No, like I thought that that would have.
42:13
Been like a player at some point he's just being ghostly and.
42:16
Running around? Yeah, I guess so.
42:18
This it gets really. Fucking trippy right here.
42:21
So Kyle's chasing Laura and is opening different doors trying
42:25
to find her and at one point he opens the door on himself
42:29
getting a. Demon blowjob from demon Laura
42:34
and he just kind of like turns and like gives like a slow
42:37
motion look. It's like, do you mind?
42:39
I no I got. More of you remember what you
42:42
want you want. In yeah, no, like a new year.
42:45
New You like nodder? Yeah.
42:47
Like, how am I supposed to know that a nod means that you join?
42:51
You just know dudes. Like it's not.
42:54
Weird if it's yourself, yeah. You know, like.
42:57
I could. He's like I.
42:58
Could only do with Mel. On Mel it maybe.
43:00
If it's me on me, yeah. I'd fuck me.
43:06
So that's. What's happening with him?
43:09
Everybody else is gone. Mr. Carver grabs Amy and goes
43:13
running, but Evan runs in after them and they kind of like,
43:17
fight, but then Evan winds up in some water.
43:22
Yeah. He busts up the fire, but Carver
43:26
beats him and runs off, chasing the chain.
43:29
Yeah, then we OK, then we cut to the ugly kid.
43:34
Yeah, Darren. Darren, he finds a room with,
43:36
like, skeletons and a guillotine, and then he looks in
43:39
the reflection, and then his reflection is all spooky.
43:41
Yeah, spooky reflection. So Evan runs to the.
43:45
House and he is looking for Amy and then he finds her on the
43:49
other side of a door she's being dragged away by a hooded person
43:56
we then cut over to Wara who is hiding in a stall because she's
44:00
been running from Kyle see the. Darren seeing himself in the
44:04
mirror kind of made me think of that.
44:05
What the fuck? Oh, it's from the wall.
44:07
From the wall, yeah. Oh, that is.
44:08
Creepy what? The fuck?
44:10
I don't like that it's not exactly the same face.
44:12
But that's what it immediately evoked in me.
44:16
OK, so where's hiding in this bathroom song?
44:18
Hiding from Kyle, I guess like the version that Kyle found is
44:23
not, I don't know. They're they're just like
44:24
finding different versions of themselves all throughout.
44:26
This is what's so confusing about this.
44:28
Here's The thing. Is that like.
44:29
And we've done we've we've covered multiple purgatory
44:32
movies on this show. And sometimes we've gotten a
44:35
little bit of guidance on how these things are, you know, how
44:38
to interpret them, what the intended interpretation was.
44:41
This is not clear at all. Yeah, that's the thing.
44:43
Like. I'm cool with this type of
44:44
story. It's just so confusing.
44:47
Yeah. It's hard to tell what is what
44:49
in this moment. And if the.
44:50
And that's the thing, if they're wanting us to be confused and
44:53
like it, be immersive in that way, I guess it's working.
44:56
But at the same time, I'm lost and I don't.
44:59
I mean, it's making me naughty invested.
45:02
That's what's happening. Yeah.
45:03
OK, so she sees a reflection of her face and it's all banged up
45:08
and swollen. Yeah, clearly.
45:11
Her future is seeing Beats being beaten.
45:15
Up, so she runs. Out Evan finds Amy and John
45:19
finds them both and so does Darren.
45:21
Darren runs in and then Laura runs in followed by Kyle.
45:25
Darren says that all the phones are giving a busy signal and
45:28
Laura says we'll have you tried 911 and Darren says all the
45:31
phones are giving a busy signal. And then Amy says I'm going to
45:34
call my parents and Darren says God damn it, all of the phones
45:39
are giving a busy signal. You know what?
45:43
You're right, Darren's. Definitely virgin.
45:44
Yes, exactly. So they go to what I call the
45:49
dance hall, the big dance area where everybody was, and it's
45:52
all empty. So they're like, OK, like this
45:54
is weird. Nobody like they couldn't all be
45:57
gone. This now.
45:59
Now we're getting. Langoliers, this is kind.
46:01
Of Lingle. Weird we never watched Twangle.
46:03
Weird. God damn it, we got to watch
46:05
Wangle. Weird.
46:06
OK, sorry, that's a mental thing between the two of us that we
46:08
have to do. No, I mean we posted.
46:10
About it our our pre flight slash pre Hawaii movie list on
46:16
the plane, Travis said why did we not watch Lingle Weirds in
46:19
preparation for this? And I said, oh 'cause we're
46:22
fucking stupid. Obviously now we got to watch
46:24
Twangle Weirds. Watch like God damn it, God damn
46:26
it. Let's see They they.
46:27
The doors are lost, Yeah. And they they want to look
46:31
around. And then John says, I think we
46:34
should split up. And everybody's like, no,
46:35
absolutely not. That's the worst idea.
46:37
And John goes, we're on an adventure.
46:40
When will anything like this ever happen again?
46:42
I'm surely not a demon leading you to your dudes.
46:46
I know he's way too into this. Whole thing for it to not be
46:49
suspicious. Yeah.
46:50
Like we don't even know. You, you don't even go here and
46:54
they're so easily. Swayed they're like, you know
46:55
what, he's got a point. I like split up Evans like, but
47:00
we'll keep the groups as. Big as possible.
47:03
Oh, you mean like one big group like you were fighting for
47:05
before Evan? Like how about?
47:07
Darren or not Darren, John, you go split up and then group,
47:13
Yeah. But no, they split in.
47:15
Groups of three. We have Darren, Laura and Amy,
47:17
and then we have John, Evan and Kyle, Kyle and Evan.
47:23
Are both very unsure of John and they realize that their watches
47:27
are sought and that's important because apparently they decided
47:29
they'd meet back in the dance hall in an hour so not sure how
47:33
that's going to happen John says it doesn't matter anyway, we'll
47:36
know why meanwhile we have. The other three who have found a
47:40
room full of books. All the books have the same
47:42
title and there's like we got to read each and every one of these
47:45
books and Amy says. But they all have the same
47:48
title, and Jane's like, yeah, but they're clearly different
47:50
volumes. Well, is that clear?
47:53
If the spines all just say the same thing?
47:55
That's not clear. It's not clear.
47:57
Conversion John is. Opening doors because Kyle
48:01
refuses to open doors because clearly the problem is doors for
48:05
him. He is just.
48:07
Afraid of opening doors? That tracks.
48:09
With another movie that we've. Watched, we cut back.
48:12
John decides that he's gonna be a funny guy and pretend he's
48:14
being attacked, but of course it's just a break.
48:17
The little imp. Yeah, where he like opens up
48:19
the. Door and freaks out and then
48:22
yeah. Also, we missed a part where
48:24
they switched to spider. And did you miss that?
48:27
I did, yeah. Laura squished a spider that was
48:31
on Amy's shoulder and it, like, splattered all over her face.
48:36
Gross. Yeah, it was fucking gross.
48:38
Chocolate up in my ugly Sue. There we go.
48:40
We come back to the. Library and they see John is in
48:43
this old book, like a yearbook type of thing.
48:46
He died in 1983. Ten years ago, we cut back to
48:52
the boys and John is yanked down the hall once.
48:56
That's pretty dramatic. They run after him, he gets
48:58
yanked the other way, and they follow him into a room where he
49:02
gets Super Mario 64 shark screen face.
49:06
His face is just morphing. For no reason.
49:08
Who is this for? Because they can't see what's he
49:13
doing? Why is he doing this?
49:15
Evan and Kyle. Decide that they don't owe John
49:18
a goddamn thing. So they decide they're going to
49:20
go look for the guy. He's probably he sounds.
49:22
Weird Laura. Goes to run, runs to warn the
49:28
others about John and Amy. Runs after Laura because she's
49:31
nervous about Laura, like Laura being by herself.
49:35
And Darren says what about me? And then Darren is taunted by
49:40
Darren. Yeah, Darren.
49:42
Darren. Yeah, he.
49:45
Is like giving himself shit because he's like, what
49:47
happened? I thought we were gonna like,
49:49
show them, you know, this makes me sad.
49:52
This makes me think of the episode of Buffy where she can
49:56
hear everybody's thoughts and she finds Jonathan and the
49:59
watched The Watershower. Yeah.
50:03
I thought the same thing was going to happen.
50:04
Yeah, except nobody comes to help.
50:07
Darren no, like he's like, you can't.
50:09
Lie or hide from yourself. So he like gets him bound up on
50:13
one of the boards there and he starts like cutting himself.
50:18
So when this is like demon version of himself cuts himself,
50:21
it cuts Darren. Like the real Darren too, he
50:24
disembows. Him.
50:25
He strangles him. He shoots his foot and then he
50:30
says, but really what you ought to do is decapitation.
50:33
And so he points over to guillotine and John appears.
50:37
He goes fucking. Of course he does.
50:38
And this is where you learn that suicide is how you get in the
50:41
club. It's not just suicide, though.
50:44
It's also murder and being murdered and being assaulted.
50:51
Apparently. It's very unclear what doesn't
50:55
count as membership to the club. Yeah, it sounds like it's a
50:57
pretty like. Accepting club, like it's not
51:01
very exclusive. Yeah, yeah.
51:03
Like basically you just can't. Die of natural causes, it sounds
51:06
like. Pretty much, yeah.
51:07
And he, he dies and he is the only one out of all of them that
51:12
gets, like, put in the book. Yeah, because his picture goes
51:14
in there, too. Yep.
51:16
It's weird. Yeah.
51:17
We. We.
51:18
That's it. It just it.
51:22
Oh my God that was so loud. She has thoughts.
51:29
I think you guys better be talking nice about my favorite
51:31
movie. I hope you guys can hear our
51:36
cat. Yeah.
51:37
Otherwise as good as I'm. That is Zoey Such.
51:40
An enunciated meow. My goodness, guys.
51:43
OK. So you have you been going to?
51:45
Elocution last time hold on one second I'm gonna pause so I'm.
51:48
Gonna need to check on her so. Our cats are OK, by the way.
51:51
Everything's cool. They're just.
51:53
They're just hungry. Yeah, they're early, will be
51:55
done by the time it's their dinner time.
51:57
Yeah, it might get. Louder now, though, because.
52:00
Travis poked his head out. And they think it's working.
52:02
It's fine. I hope you, I hope.
52:03
You like our cats? OK, so we see Kyle.
52:06
Gets X through your door. Yep, and we see another Kyle
52:08
find Laura. I don't understand, I wrote
52:10
like. Kyle gets dragged away after
52:12
deciding fuck it, what did he say fucking about?
52:15
I don't know. I can't.
52:17
Remember, but Kyle in. Quotation marks finds Laura so
52:21
this is not the real Kyle takes her to.
52:24
A den type area there's a fireplace in like a cozy rag and
52:31
Laura's like listen we can't trust John and Kyle's like yeah
52:36
no Amy found us and told us all about it.
52:39
I you know, I I want us to do this.
52:42
I want us to be together. And then when Laura tries to
52:44
leave, he won't let her out. It's the same thing that we see
52:47
every single time they're in a room together.
52:48
He does the whole love Bonnie type thing, and the second she
52:52
tries to leave, he gets violent. Yeah.
52:54
Yeah, like. He's like, I want to have sex
52:58
before we die. And she agrees for a little bit
53:00
and they start kind of going at it.
53:02
But then as she's like getting into it, she's like, no, no,
53:05
this isn't. She's like, this is weird.
53:06
Yeah. Meanwhile.
53:08
Evan. In quotation marks asks Amy
53:11
dance, and then he asks to Make Love also.
53:15
Yeah, basically. Mirroring the story with Kyle so
53:18
he's not violent and he says something about being stronger
53:22
as long as they're together and then they kiss and then he
53:28
turns. Into Carver and then John.
53:31
And then John, who I. Call John Carver.
53:34
Oh my God, do you feel good about?
53:35
That I've been thinking about it ever since.
53:37
Yesterday. OK.
53:38
All right. Well, I'm glad you got it out of
53:40
your system. He invented the peanut.
53:43
Invented a whole nut? Or was it peanut butter?
53:48
Oh no. Oh my God.
53:49
Anyways, John goes after them. He cuts off his hand, he cuts
53:55
off like they cut off John's hand.
53:57
They cut off his hand and they set.
53:58
Him on fire but nothing really seems to take for very long
54:02
Yeah. Like that that's.
54:03
The thing that keeps happening, like he keeps getting attacked,
54:05
he keeps fucking with him, they attack him, he fucks off for a
54:08
second and then he comes back all over.
54:09
There is one scene though, where he comes.
54:11
Back and he's charred, and I thought we were going to like,
54:13
every time we cut to him, he'd be a little less charred.
54:15
That would have been cool. That wasn't the case.
54:18
I just think we saw multiple takes where the makeup wasn't
54:21
done 100% the same. Yeah, you're probably right.
54:24
Yeah. That was cool, though.
54:25
So, yeah. So Colin, Laura, they're getting
54:28
into it. Laura wants to stop.
54:30
This is where they want to stop. She tells him that.
54:32
She's afraid of him and that they're breaking up for good.
54:36
And then he turns into a demon. Yeah, so.
54:39
Meanwhile, with that going on, John is showing Evan and Amy who
54:43
he is. So he's given like the whole Old
54:46
Town, like, all right, I'm going to take you all to school.
54:49
He like, puts them in the desk. He gets like a fucking
54:51
chalkboard. And this is very Freddy.
54:53
Krueger. It's very Freddy Krueger.
54:55
Yeah. And so basically he explains the
55:00
whole order of things. He explains the club, which is a
55:04
club of demons. They're disciples of the Prince.
55:06
Of darkness. We're not allowed to say that,
55:08
and we're not allowed to say the other one.
55:11
Yeah. And we're not allowed to confirm
55:13
or deny the existence of either of those.
55:16
And Amy, like Amy, if she gets out of everything in this
55:21
timeline, could go on to be a fantastic lawyer because she's
55:24
like, OK, But, you know, by not confirming, that's essentially
55:27
an admission. Yeah.
55:28
Yeah. Essentially, yeah.
55:31
He explains how you get in the Co-op, which is suicide and also
55:34
murder, which we've already gone over ourselves.
55:37
Committing and being like it's, it's not exclusive to just
55:41
murderers, which feels pretty fucked up.
55:43
Yeah. Yeah.
55:44
Well, I I. I feel the same.
55:45
Way about the whole suicide thing of it too like that's also
55:52
it's all fucked up it's. All it's a.
55:54
Terrible. It's a.
55:55
Terrible club, don't recommend it.
55:56
Yeah, anyways. So Kyle wakes.
55:59
Up and he wait, wait, wait hold on this has.
56:02
Happened. No, no, no.
56:03
No. Cuz part of what they're talking
56:05
about, it's not just about the club, what's happening here in
56:08
this purgatory. So sometimes they like to stop
56:10
time and mess around with things a little bit, but they also kind
56:12
of like to administer these little tests and what happens
56:15
here determines what's gonna happen on the outside.
56:18
No, I have these notes right here next to the courtroom.
56:20
I have the Kyle thing right before.
56:22
That I think this is all happening at the same time,
56:24
which is fine. We can talk about what you're
56:25
talking about right now first, because it's fine, because
56:29
cutting back and forth can get confused.
56:30
It does, yeah. Yeah.
56:31
But yeah, you're right. So yeah, they stop time and
56:34
basically like they present these situations like how are
56:36
you going to handle this? They have to face the fears or.
56:38
They'll face consequences and they tally up their reactions
56:42
and decide if they'll ever die. And that's the thing that
56:44
confuses. Me, because it doesn't end up
56:47
mattering. Yeah, at all.
56:50
At the end of the. Movie.
56:51
Yeah. So what's?
56:52
The point there is. No point.
56:55
Yeah, there is no point to any of this.
56:57
He's just like either he's. Lying or this movie forgot its
57:00
own rules. I think that I.
57:03
Think that one. I think that too.
57:04
Yeah, yeah. So anyways, so Kyle's whole
57:07
thing, he wakes up in his bedroom and he has Laura on top
57:12
of him who is like, Oh my God, like, did you have a bad dream?
57:16
Like, And then she's like, do you remember what happened last
57:19
night? It's like, I have no idea what
57:20
you're talking about. And she's like, I had the worst
57:22
ever. Dream ever nightmare.
57:25
And she's like, here, let me remind you.
57:27
And things start to get a little steamy, but then she becomes a
57:32
demon. Yeah.
57:34
Pretty, pretty demony, yeah. Yeah, I think that's the end of
57:38
Carl and Laura. I think it is too.
57:41
'Cause now we have a. Big final fight between John and
57:45
Amy and Evan. So John comes for Amy and Evan
57:50
says John will have to kill him first.
57:53
And so they start to fight and Amy helps and Evan is
57:58
encouraging her to keep fighting but then John becomes Carver and
58:01
Amy shuts down. So fucking weird.
58:04
This is like a whole weird thing.
58:05
So like they have this whole duel and it goes up to like the
58:08
second floor and Carver is down on the ground about to get Amy,
58:14
the real Carver. I think.
58:15
I don't fucking know. I can't fucking tell.
58:18
I. Can't either.
58:18
I don't know. So, Evan.
58:20
Jumps off of the balcony and then we got to fade to black,
58:24
and then it fades back and he's suddenly tied up to a chain.
58:28
Yeah, being held over some pit and Amy is being tied up and
58:36
about to be forced to endure Carver.
58:39
Yeah, and. Basically, he says that the
58:42
chain will slide loose if she tries to run, but Evan manages
58:46
to get loose because Carver's not that good at hanging up
58:48
chains apparently, and so he starts fighting and they're just
58:52
kind of fighting their way through the hall.
58:55
At one point he gets Evan gets blasted with some hot steam, so
59:00
he falls over the rail, but the hook gets.
59:03
Caught. So he's Gucci and then no.
59:06
Carver is Gucci. Then we have man that.
59:10
Joke. All the right elements had to
59:13
line up for that. Then they're in the hall.
59:17
Evan's bloody, they're fighting again.
59:19
I don't this movie doesn't this just.
59:21
Repeats like a couple of times like over and over again.
59:25
We have like the same, you know what keeps happening playing
59:28
like a side school or. Video game and sometimes you
59:30
like you fall through the floor into another part of the level
59:33
and you're like what is the actual architecture of this
59:35
building that I'm in that's this movie what's happening here so
59:40
like. He's all right alone with John
59:45
and Amy is hiding in a room, but then John Carver punches through
59:50
the wall to get Amy because suddenly these.
59:53
Walls aren't made of stone. But then Evan comes back.
59:56
He's got a weapon again and it's fire, and then he catches.
1:00:01
Yeah, he catches his sleeve on. Fire and then Carver takes some
1:00:06
silks from the wall, presumably priceless, and uses them to
1:00:10
smother the fire and he chases them out and he has got.
1:00:14
He takes a sword also from a presumably priceless armor suit
1:00:19
of armor, and he is very bad at swinging the sword with his
1:00:24
burnt up arm seems. Legit.
1:00:28
And he knocks A sconce off the wall.
1:00:30
But but apparently this castle has been upgraded because the
1:00:35
sconces are gas powered and it's also a wall spike.
1:00:39
Yes, there's also. The wall spike is there yes yes
1:00:42
yes so Evan pushes him into the wall triangle yes.
1:00:47
So we have that going on, but it's not enough to 100% get him.
1:00:53
But it's OK because Amy fights back and she ignites him with
1:00:58
some fire and then the fire goes into the wall triangle gasconts
1:01:02
and then there's fire and then time restarts.
1:01:06
No, no you didn't. Even mention the best part, he
1:01:08
fucking explodes. He goes kaboom.
1:01:13
Like big time. You know it did not make that.
1:01:16
Much of an impression. Are you kidding me?
1:01:17
That's like. The best part of this movie, I
1:01:19
think that that guy watch Prom Night 4 is like, I got to have
1:01:22
at least one of those explosions.
1:01:24
Maybe. Maybe the explosions are.
1:01:26
Actually theaters and then could could be.
1:01:29
Or maybe he was. Initially mad about the
1:01:32
explosions in Prom Night 4. And then on reflection, he was
1:01:35
like, yeah, like at the end he's like.
1:01:38
There's something missing, Or maybe third?
1:01:41
Option John's actor wanted there to be an explosion and it was
1:01:47
his like it was his contract writer to get to be one part of
1:01:51
the movie. Yeah, one explosion.
1:01:53
It's a. Pretty cool explosion, like it's
1:01:55
Carver exploding. Like, I love all the fire stones
1:01:57
that they have in this movie because, like it.
1:01:59
It's legit. Yeah, they, they do a good job
1:02:01
here. Like, it's kind of absurd how
1:02:03
many times Carver catches on fire within 5 minutes, but it's
1:02:07
worth it. So yeah, clock moves back.
1:02:11
It's no longer 12. It's 11:59.
1:02:14
And we're starting to see the movie start over again.
1:02:18
Basically, Evan and Amy are dancing.
1:02:21
Laura is confronting Kyle. Kyle gets violent, but we see
1:02:25
something. A little different this time.
1:02:27
We see John is influencing all of the conversations that are
1:02:30
happening here and they don't realize that it's happening.
1:02:34
He's like, basically telling them what to say.
1:02:38
And sometimes the people listen to his cues and sometimes people
1:02:41
ignore it. Yeah.
1:02:42
But The thing is, is that. Laura actually did the fucking
1:02:44
right things this time. I know.
1:02:46
And that's what I don't understand about this movie.
1:02:48
What message is trying to get out?
1:02:50
Overall, I don't understand it either because.
1:02:52
We have them again, they're alone in the room.
1:02:55
Kyle tries to have sex with her again, but this time she follows
1:02:58
through with a breakup. He chases her out of the room
1:03:00
and ends up pushing her over a fucking balcony and she dies.
1:03:04
I will say this is my favorite. John part though 'cause he was
1:03:07
like, oh, multiple witnesses, no getting out of the sun, I kind.
1:03:12
Of like this one with John and like the other like this whole
1:03:16
other couple that's not even part of the movie.
1:03:18
Like he goes over there. What the fuck was this is?
1:03:20
So weird. This is so weird but like.
1:03:22
Basically it's this couple. He's like saying to the girl.
1:03:26
They're having a serious conversation about the
1:03:28
relationship. The body is being taken away.
1:03:29
Yeah, and she's like, look, you're.
1:03:31
Not with me. Just like to use me, right?
1:03:34
Like you actually care about me. And he's like, what are you
1:03:36
talking about? And then John's like, tell him
1:03:39
you're pregnant. And then she's like, I'm
1:03:40
pregnant. And the guy is like, how could
1:03:43
you do this? You did it to her.
1:03:46
Come on dude. And then it just ends with them
1:03:53
having this whole fucking meltdown like this just fucking
1:03:56
thing I wish it ended with. This, It would be slightly
1:04:00
better than the actual ending we get, which is Amy watching her
1:04:04
friend Laura's body being taken away and then saying, Evan, I've
1:04:09
got to go get my purse and Evan saying I will come with you.
1:04:12
And she said, no, just go get the car.
1:04:15
And she wanders into an empty castle and outcomes the drunk
1:04:20
Mr. Carter. And then we've got John popping
1:04:23
up going. That's all, folks.
1:04:26
Yeah. Like he?
1:04:29
Yeah, I don't fucking know. It's such a weird way to end the
1:04:34
movie. It's so fucking weird.
1:04:36
I I really I just. I feel like this movie wants to
1:04:40
say something, and I feel like I don't agree with what it's
1:04:43
wanting to say. I don't.
1:04:44
Yeah, I don't know. Man, I don't know.
1:04:46
It's such a weird movie. It has a weird message.
1:04:49
I think it's trying to say something good.
1:04:51
I just don't know if it's really getting it across.
1:04:54
I hope it's trying to say something good.
1:04:56
I'm going to give it the benefit of the doubt here, but yeah, I
1:05:00
don't know, like I just, it's so confusing.
1:05:04
There's a lot of just random shit that happens.
1:05:06
It doesn't really have like a, a connecting thread.
1:05:10
And the fact that they're like, none of it mattered.
1:05:13
And yeah, it's one of the things that really upsets me is like,
1:05:16
what was the point? What was the point of the whole
1:05:18
thing? You even said that this is the
1:05:19
part like this is the all for this.
1:05:22
And it never really like, I don't fucking know, but I'm
1:05:27
gonna keep it at three. I'm bumping it down to.
1:05:29
Three, OK. Ending average 3.
1:05:33
All right, this. Might be.
1:05:35
Far lowest ever. It's one of them, yeah.
1:05:38
What did Italia think? OK, well, Italia.
1:05:40
Was showing us her tummy. She's being very playful and
1:05:43
demanding about it. She was pretty restless.
1:05:46
She wanted to go out at 35 O 5. She kept hitting her button and
1:05:50
then at the end of the movie when the clock struck midnight
1:05:53
again and timing started, she started barking.
1:05:55
She wanted this movie to be fucking over.
1:05:57
No, you did not hit start. Over did she?
1:06:01
She was mad. So I think I don't know Italia's
1:06:06
ever gotten below A5 before, but I think it's a three cuz it's
1:06:10
not for me. Yeah, yeah.
1:06:12
Not for me. Dog.
1:06:13
No me. Dog, it's up for me.
1:06:18
Who is dog? Yeah.
1:06:22
Who is always ultimate warrior? Nobody ate any.
1:06:28
Food at any point, No they. Didn't it's, It's tough one.
1:06:38
It's a really tough one. Let's say it's Laura, Cuz Laura,
1:06:43
smack the spider. Yeah, OK.
1:06:45
Yeah, Zoe's really good at that. Yeah.
1:06:50
Was it who or a holler for Cordelia Holler?
1:06:52
Think it was a holler. Yeah, OK.
1:06:54
She was hollering out there while we were talking.
1:06:57
That's true. I think Zoe was.
1:06:58
Defending this movie though, she's like, I like that.
1:07:01
Part where the spider got squished and it was gross.
1:07:03
Yeah, I like the explosion. OK.
1:07:08
Who did you relate to? Got a real cool group of people
1:07:16
to relate to I related to. Darren, let's stay here in the
1:07:22
library, read some books, Yeah. I I think I related to the DJ at
1:07:40
the opening of this. Movie because all I wanted to do
1:07:42
at this. Fucking party is listen to music
1:07:44
and not interact with any of these people.
1:07:45
This DJI. Like to imagine he was stuck in
1:07:49
his own purgatory when the rest of this was going on because
1:07:52
he's like, all right, we announced king and queen at
1:07:54
midnight. And like, you can see him
1:07:55
mentally doing the counting down and like, he got stuck in
1:07:59
purgatory for hours and he's like, God damn it, I was so
1:08:01
close, so close to midnight. What?
1:08:03
Was not happening. Yeah, that was me.
1:08:10
OK, cool. Our new tagline.
1:08:15
Is got milk. Got milk?
1:08:18
Hungry for apples? Hungry for apples?
1:08:21
Let's see. All right.
1:08:22
I hope you all remember. What it was you're talking about
1:08:24
at the beginning? Yeah, you're right.
1:08:28
OK man, it really was a bad slogan.
1:08:31
If we can remember it, I know. OK, so get that.
1:08:37
What would Dom do? Tom wouldn't be at this fucking.
1:08:41
Prom So I would have been like, Nah, I do I.
1:08:47
Think Tom strikes me as the kind of guy that would go to a high
1:08:50
school prom you. Know like, glad he was a lot.
1:08:53
Younger than. Him.
1:08:54
Yeah, I think he would. Also chaperone will be OK, OK.
1:08:59
So in this world, he is also a chaperone, and it's a little
1:09:02
beast prom. Yeah.
1:09:03
And he just beats the shit out of Mr. Carver.
1:09:06
Yeah. And he sees him stomping.
1:09:07
The show out of a ghost. He's like, I can do better.
1:09:09
He's like, he's like, man. How many coronas if I had if I'm
1:09:12
ghost stomp and drunk? Oh boy.
1:09:17
Yeah, that's what happens here. It all ends because he just gets
1:09:21
drunk on coronas. Stomps Carver.
1:09:23
Yeah, yeah, I like it. No go.
1:09:28
He actually gets John though. He actually does kill John and
1:09:30
just put a stop to this movie. Yeah, he stomps Satan.
1:09:35
That's what he does. He gets so drunk on Corona that
1:09:37
he like goes over and stomps Satan.
1:09:39
That man makes a point of saying.
1:09:40
Grace before every meal he does, even if he's already go stomp
1:09:44
and drunk at the beginning of the meal.
1:09:45
You may have the club the. Way you don't have his family.
1:09:49
Family is way more powerful. Yeah, all right.
1:09:54
St. Sequel I want a remake of.
1:09:57
This movie, but it's good, OK. Yeah, I think that there's
1:10:01
potential for this. Yeah.
1:10:02
You know, like there is. Potential with the.
1:10:03
Story here. There were good ideas here I.
1:10:06
Want this movie, but it actually seems like it cares about
1:10:10
people. Yeah, again, I am not saying
1:10:15
that about anybody who likes this movie.
1:10:18
You can like a movie and not agree with it.
1:10:20
That's cool. That's fine.
1:10:21
You know it's. Fine, Like I'm sure some people
1:10:23
like it, you know, and I'm sure some people have different.
1:10:25
Interpretations of it than me but we're going to get into our.
1:10:28
Review that I OK, I would. Love to hear that.
1:10:31
But yeah, no, I would just like to see this have a little bit
1:10:35
more heart and like for what it is, be more grounded.
1:10:39
I don't need all of the trippy weird cuts.
1:10:41
I need it to. I'm OK with that stuff.
1:10:43
I just need to. Make sense?
1:10:44
I need to like, not be so fucking lost and bored and I
1:10:48
want, I want. More of a moral Gray in the
1:10:51
characters. Yeah, they kind of tried to do
1:10:55
that with Kyle, but I feel like it was like.
1:11:00
Made him too shitty. Yeah, like it.
1:11:02
Made him too shitty to. Care about his troubles?
1:11:04
Yeah. So I just, I think there are a
1:11:07
lot of really, really good ideas in here and there were some,
1:11:10
there's some good acting, some good effects.
1:11:12
I just want this story to have, like, it's not the type of story
1:11:17
that you can just have. It's not like a slasher where
1:11:19
you can just throw away and have fun and you don't have to think
1:11:21
about it too hard because you're putting these messages out there
1:11:24
and you need to think about what the message is.
1:11:26
Yeah. OK, OK, so are we ready to do
1:11:32
reviews? I think so, yeah.
1:11:35
I think we're at that point now. So I have one, a positive review
1:11:38
from IMDb. OK, so it's a fairly long one,
1:11:42
but this person, I think is pleading a case that I think we
1:11:44
need to hear. Yes, I'm actually.
1:11:46
I'm really excited to hear from somebody who likes us.
1:11:48
Just to be fair, this is. Still a six out of 10, but it's
1:11:52
titled I've Always Loved This Little Diabolical Club.
1:11:55
It's reviewed in June 2009. Damn beam nostalgia once again
1:12:01
and has gotten me into a spot of defending a movie I still like.
1:12:04
While it's not exactly a superb film, I saw The Club back in
1:12:08
1994 on a horror movie festival. I remember enjoying it quite a
1:12:12
bit there. You just went by and while my
1:12:14
memories of this film became quite a bit vague, I never
1:12:17
really forgot about it. With my love for horror having
1:12:20
rekindled in recent years, the urge crew to re watch this
1:12:23
Canadian genre film. It took a bit of effort, I'm
1:12:26
sorry. Canadian genre, I guess.
1:12:29
I mean it's. A Canadian and it's a genre film
1:12:31
OK I. Was I heard that as like the
1:12:34
genre was Canadian and I was like, that's not how that works.
1:12:37
Genre film from Canadian. Not OK.
1:12:40
Yes, it took a bit of effort and a bit of luck to finally track
1:12:43
down a copy of it, but I got 1 and I was literally holding my
1:12:46
breath when I popped in the tape that same day I received it.
1:12:50
Maybe this movie would suck after all those years not being
1:12:53
half the fun I remembered it to be.
1:12:55
Relief. It doesn't suck, and it's still
1:12:58
fun, but you'll have to be a bit forgiving.
1:13:01
And for a horror fan that's usually not a hard thing to do.
1:13:03
I agree with that, Yeah. The Club basically is an amalgam
1:13:07
of good ideas, fun special effects, atmosphere, a healthy
1:13:10
dosage of enthusiasm from cast and crew, and the use of a great
1:13:13
gothic castle location. Obviously it's not a horror film
1:13:17
to be taken too seriously, but I'll admit the execution of the
1:13:20
film leaves things to be desired.
1:13:22
Plus the movie has a good and fun concept to boot, but lacks a
1:13:26
decent story and feels underdeveloped.
1:13:28
It's a simple set up. There is a school dance in a
1:13:31
remote castle. When midnight comes around,
1:13:32
small group of friends suddenly find themselves and it's a real
1:13:35
situation. All other students have
1:13:37
disappeared and while we're wandering through the castle
1:13:39
alone trying to figure out what happened to them, they'll soon
1:13:42
become the target of a nightmarish manifestation.
1:13:46
If you had fun with movies like Night of the Demons, One and
1:13:49
Three, Spooky's and maybe especially even Ken Russell's
1:13:53
Gothic and then go ahead and give The Club a try.
1:13:56
It's a similar film only with a more 90s looking film.
1:13:58
Back in 94 I didn't realize it, but The Club stars a young
1:14:01
Andrea Roth in it. Only discovered this blonde
1:14:04
Canadian cutie about four years later when I saw her alongside
1:14:07
Rugger Hauer in Crossworlds. Recently I saw John Fawcett's
1:14:10
Last Sex and was again surprised about how decent an actress she
1:14:13
is and mature woman she became to be.
1:14:15
That's a weird way to end the review, but, you know, that's
1:14:19
fitting for this. Look, I get what that person is
1:14:26
saying, though. I think, yeah, they have, like,
1:14:27
a factor of nostalgia coming in right there.
1:14:29
But at the same time, you, like, we are generally forgiving for
1:14:34
movies. We like shitty movies a lot of
1:14:36
the time. Like OK.
1:14:38
I think some of the ways that I could tie this and like, cuz we
1:14:42
love the sweepaway camp movies. Yeah, right.
1:14:44
And I think especially the Pamela Springsteen version of
1:14:50
Angela Baker, she has got this weird, corrupted morality, but
1:14:55
you can tell the movies aren't trying to make a point about it.
1:15:00
Yeah. They're just having fun.
1:15:01
Yes. And I think.
1:15:02
There's a version of the club with that kind of a spirit that
1:15:07
would be excellent. See, The thing is, I do.
1:15:11
Get Night of the Demons vibes from this movie.
1:15:13
I yeah, the Demons is. A great way to tell.
1:15:15
This type of story and I fully get like a cross.
1:15:17
Between those two I could see absolutely working.
1:15:20
Yeah. And, and like, I'm so, so glad
1:15:22
that this person remembered it fondly and did not have that
1:15:25
memory spoiled for them. And it sounds like they liked a
1:15:27
lot of the same elements we liked and disliked a lot of the
1:15:30
same elements we disliked. It's just what they ranked is
1:15:33
like. The more precipitating factor
1:15:36
for their score was some people just.
1:15:39
Like, you know, like, I think I mean this, these are just things
1:15:43
that didn't work for us. Yeah, absolutely.
1:15:46
And that's. What I'm saying like it's one of
1:15:47
those things, like I, and I've said it throughout this whole
1:15:50
thing, this movie is not for me. These are the reasons it's not
1:15:54
for me. And I fully recognize that
1:15:55
that's my own opinion. And I'm not judging anybody else
1:15:58
who doesn't share that opinion, you know, And yeah, I've seen
1:16:02
like I, I looked this. Movie up too.
1:16:03
Like I saw plenty of other people on like Reddit, like talk
1:16:07
about it fondly, you know, like it has its fans for sure.
1:16:11
And I'm happy that there are people that like this movie
1:16:14
because, you know, like it's it's good enough.
1:16:18
And I do think like. Media at some point shouldn't be
1:16:21
taken too seriously, but I do also think that it has to like
1:16:25
you. You have to think about the
1:16:27
impact of your words and the messages you're putting out too.
1:16:30
And I just, this is just, like I said, it's just too victim
1:16:34
blamey of a movie for me and how it comes across to me.
1:16:37
Yeah, it's a bit weird. Yeah.
1:16:39
So. That's it for that.
1:16:41
Yeah. But I do have a listener review.
1:16:43
We have one from Michael Lee Howard.
1:16:45
OK, I'm excited for this. One Michael says I thought the
1:16:48
movie. Was OK.
1:16:49
It almost felt like an extended episode of Buffy.
1:16:52
I totally see that. Right.
1:16:53
Yeah. Well.
1:16:54
I even mentioned the Jonathan thing.
1:16:56
Yeah. I easily could have done without
1:16:58
the huge theme of sexual assault throughout the storyline.
1:17:00
All in all, not a fave. 6 out of 10, so still like a higher
1:17:04
rating right there. Six out 10.
1:17:06
Same as the person on IMDb. Yeah.
1:17:08
I mean, yeah, like the the sexual assault theme is just
1:17:12
really a bummer throughout this whole movie.
1:17:14
It would have been so much better if it were something
1:17:16
like, I would. I would be so much.
1:17:18
And this kind of sucks. But like, if he was just trying
1:17:21
to kill her, he just, like would have been told it's a fucking
1:17:25
horror movie, you know? Yeah, like sexual assault is.
1:17:28
Just a little bit too. Real and like.
1:17:30
And that's the thing that I tend to struggle with in horror
1:17:33
movies because I know a lot of people are like, well, that is
1:17:35
realistically a thing that happens.
1:17:36
And it's like, but I like. With a horror movie, you.
1:17:40
Know like murder is on the table.
1:17:43
I mean, that's just, it's kind of.
1:17:44
A given, yeah. It just it doesn't.
1:17:46
Feel like sexual assault should be used for entertainment
1:17:51
purposes. I mean there are ways for.
1:17:53
It to like it can work in a story.
1:17:56
I mean it doesn't like automatically disqualify like a
1:17:58
movie or something like that. That's like the whole thing.
1:18:01
With The Handmaid's Tale, it's like a huge piece of it.
1:18:05
It's a it's a show that I'm glad who releases one episode at a
1:18:10
time because having to watch the whole thing, like binging the
1:18:14
whole thing is would be a fucking bummer.
1:18:15
Yeah, I could see that of a thing, but it's not like
1:18:18
gratuitous in any kind of way. And this movie, I feel like
1:18:22
borders on gratuitous with how they treat it.
1:18:24
Yeah, for sure. OK.
1:18:26
Well, thanks Michael. I really appreciate you having a
1:18:28
review. Yes, thank you and.
1:18:30
Then. Other than that, that does it.
1:18:33
It does so. That's it for.
1:18:35
This week's movie The Curb next week.
1:18:39
What do we have on the menu? Oh boy.
1:18:43
I can see earlier. We have Carrie 2. 1002 hey,
1:18:46
that's. Our Patreon voted.
1:18:48
Episode. Yeah, not.
1:18:50
Carly. Carly, sorry, I'm trying to look
1:18:53
it up. OK, where to watch?
1:18:55
It. Yeah.
1:18:55
Where to watch it, Carrie? The 2002 one this right now is
1:19:01
on YouTube for free to be Pluto TVMGM plus VIX.
1:19:07
With an X, not. Vapor rub.
1:19:09
I was pissed. You can just slather some Vicks
1:19:12
on you. You might be able to just
1:19:14
experience it. Oh, maybe it's.
1:19:15
Just a favorite drink. Put that shit on your chest or.
1:19:18
See it? Yeah.
1:19:19
Fubo TV, Sling TV, Prime Video, YouTube TV, Philo, Fandango at
1:19:25
home, Apple TV or Google. Did you say Tubi?
1:19:27
Also because it's on. Tubi OK, it was the second.
1:19:29
One, I said, I understand why you don't remember it, because
1:19:32
it was followed very shortly after by Vicks.
1:19:36
I mean Vicks. So I don't know if I've ever
1:19:41
actually seen this version of it.
1:19:43
I haven't. So that'll be interesting.
1:19:45
I've seen obviously the original and I've seen the 2013.
1:19:48
I looked it up I think. This is ATV movie.
1:19:51
Oh really? Yeah.
1:19:53
OK, so kind of. The whole tradition of turning
1:19:55
Stephen King books into TV movies.
1:19:58
I really hope that, oh gosh, that they would.
1:20:02
Do that I don't understand. Why they keep wanting to redo
1:20:04
this movie? Because nobody keeps.
1:20:06
Getting it 100% right. But the first movie was so.
1:20:09
Fucking good. Who cares?
1:20:11
Who cares? Shut up, Stephen King.
1:20:15
I'm sure he's the one complaining about it.
1:20:17
Oh yeah, obviously. That's him.
1:20:19
Like dude who? Cares.
1:20:21
I don't think he's actually. The one complaining he probably
1:20:23
is he complaints about. All kinds of movies that like,
1:20:25
people don't do right, well, he also praises.
1:20:29
A lot of movies so that people do with his Yeah the.
1:20:32
Only people he praise are like Mike Flanagan he also praised.
1:20:36
The ending for the Mist? Oh, that's true, he said.
1:20:40
It's better than his. Yeah, that's true.
1:20:44
OK, so it's quote. Are you even talking?
1:20:48
English right now. What the fuck was that Cordelia
1:20:52
screaming? Cordelia, Cordelia, why you cry.
1:20:56
And it's because it's 10 minutes.
1:20:57
Past food time, Yeah, whatever. All right, We.
1:20:59
Got to wrap this up. She put on at least three.
1:21:01
Pounds, probably. Yeah, she.
1:21:04
It was the. Grandparent of that, actually,
1:21:06
your parents were here. OK, let's wrap.
1:21:09
This up so you know where to watch next week's movie so let's
1:21:13
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