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EDP59: Big Easy Double News / Urban Trail de Lille 10k & 5K / Stawell Gift · Easy Double podcast

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  from the track to the rodeo we talk that talk splits on the
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  watch but we still take the Mick Dean in Perth with the long run
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  legs one breeds the fire when the session gets thick.
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  Ryan in the mix with the numbers and plans from Arizona to.
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  Meadows Yeah, we. Break it all.
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  Down hard graft Monday, left by the Sunday.
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  Still chasing Peeves while the. World Spins.
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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double podcast episode 59.
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  I'm joined as always by the two Co hosts, one over in Ireland,
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  Owen Smith, how are you doing? Happy Easter.
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  Doing good, Ryan. Yeah, it's a off work here
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  today, so good load of Easter eggs eyeing me up, so I'm going
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  to have to might do a little bit more running to try and fit them
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  in my in my dietary plan, but no, it's good.
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  Good. Yeah, who bought you the Easter
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  eggs besides Easter Bunny? That's it.
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  These one, he just got me them. Oh, no, actually in work we had
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  a like an Easter egg hunt and I got one of them lint bunnies,
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  you know, a big lint Bunny. So yeah, I'm gonna get, I've got
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  to get through this week as well.
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  Premium material. Yeah, good shit.
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  And also dialing in from the drivers, not you, not the
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  driver's seats, the the back seat of his car is Dean Menzies.
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  Dean, how are you doing, mate? Goodbye.
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  Doing well, guys. Yeah, a little bit late from a
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  prior commitment that dialed in don't, can't, can't miss a
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  recording. And happy Easter to you as well.
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  How was it in the Menzies household get up so much?
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  It was good. Yeah.
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  We're just the usual sort of family and friend catch UPS.
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  Lots of Easter eggs, lots of Easter eggs.
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  We may have eaten a few. The Easter bunnies, Easter eggs
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  that were to be handed out did get copper.
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  Fair whack in the week leading up to and consequently I think
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  we needed to go back to the shops to get a top up.
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  But no, it's been a nice, nice four day break Easter egg hunt
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  on Sunday morning, kids out in force.
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  It was. It was nice.
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  Hey, good. It's it's been a really long
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  weekend, hasn't it? So did you get a four day long
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  weekend as well? Owen over there.
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  No he was on the UK had Friday off as well.
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  In Ireland we have to work on the on the Friday unfortunately.
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  Did was the Easter Bunny go to your end?
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  The Easter Bunny turned off. Yeah, I wouldn't say that the
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  bags were full, but there was some delivered.
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  Yeah. Did you get any of them Biscoff
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  hot cross buns? No I stopped counting
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  annoyingly, but I got to AC and I definitely surpassed 100 based
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  on when I stopped counting at AC which is pretty impressive.
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  Putting away 100 hot cross buns I mean is over the period of a
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  few months. Yeah.
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  It's fuel, but yeah, so I may have sadly had my last hot cross
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  bunners fuel now given the the Bix endorsement.
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  Proper feel, Rocket feel. We're on now.
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  Which is well timed, given that Easter surpassing probably means
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  that there won't be any hot cross buns left on the shelf, so
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  it's come through at the perfect time.
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  It's really weird though, the way like it's an Easter sort of
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  thing, like a hot cross bun. I feel like it's just a bit of
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  bread with filling inside, no? Yeah, I know.
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  So what will they? What?
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  What agenda do they start pushing next because we can't go
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  to Halloween? Oh yeah, what is the next one?
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  There isn't one for ages now. And it will have, we'll probably
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  see on the shelves tomorrow anyway.
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  But we are here, we're back again.
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  We've got plenty of runners to talk about.
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  There was a massive race in Lille, 5K and 10K with
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  ridiculously fast times and also the stall gift which is a very
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  unique concept to Australia, so I'm sure we'll have fun talking
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  about that. But before we go there fellas,
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  London call in Episode 3 went out during the week last week.
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  I assume you both had fun tuning into that.
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  Any thoughts on how the fellas are getting on?
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  How did you find the the recording?
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  I wanted it to be a bit more serious, but the guys are just
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  too much of A laugh to have a serious conversation with.
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  Can we pull it back to hot cross buns for a minute?
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  Apparently the cross on the bun take symbolizes the crucifixion
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  of Jesus. There you go.
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  Yeah, there you go. Cross one.
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  It's a cross. So that's why it relates to
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  Easter. Yeah, yeah.
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  So again, do we give thanks to Jesus sacrificing himself on the
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  cross for the hot cross buns I. Think he's given us a lot of
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  stuff here Christmas. Thanks.
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  But we don't want to ostracize any any other religions on here.
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  So yeah, no favors towards Christianity.
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  Everyone is welcome. Easy double.
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  But yeah. London Colon.
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  Any thoughts? I think it's going to be so good
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  between Tim, Vince and Jake Smith.
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  Like Jake Smith is fit and Tim is tipping along nicely.
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  I think who's going to be first home is going to be tight.
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  They are tracking tracking very similar.
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  Yeah, they Tim's probably, what, a bit quicker over the half has
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  he been, But Jake's putting out out some serious kilometers,
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  like he's aerobic work, his weekly mileage and it's looking
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  very good, isn't it? Yes, it's building very nicely I
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  think. So what was that Sunday
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  yesterday? So it'll be the races three
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  weeks yesterday. So I think we'll get one more
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  record with them in before the race on the week of, which will
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  be really fun. And hopefully Mr. Ran to Japan
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  is in the UK by that point, but that remains to be seen whether
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  he gets on the jet plane or not. I think I like the fact that
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  they're three different three different guys in terms of
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  personality, three different approaches to their training.
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  So it's really interesting to hear it all then converging on
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  the same thing. You know, like it's unfortunate,
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  obviously that ran to Japan is struggling a bit with with
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  injury, but even his super high mileage approach versus the
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  other guys, they all have slightly different ways of the
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  way they're they approach training their their training
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  sessions, all these differences, but they're all sort of more or
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  less converging in on the same goal.
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  It's really interesting perspective and interesting
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  differences in personalities. So which makes it for a fun
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  lesson. So I've really enjoyed it.
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  So thanks. But I think that's the joy, like
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  that's part of the journey as well.
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  Like when you're at such a high level, like it doesn't always go
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  to plan and it's very rare that like as Jake Smith says, you're
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  going to see so many people pull out and get injured.
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  So many people will cross that red line and not make it to the
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  start line. It's just unfortunate that Jake
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  Barclough is, is just on that hit list, but it's just part of
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  the journey. Unfortunately, that's running.
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  It doesn't always go to plan, but the good thing about running
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  is there's always another race just around the corner.
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  So 100% Jake will get this sorted, pick himself back up and
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  go again. Yeah, and dare I say it, don't
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  write them off. Yeah, I think he ran like 160
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  odd K last week, which for anyone else on planet Earth is
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  more than enough to be peaking marathon mileage.
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  But the guy has high standards so we'll see if he arrives.
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  And then a couple of hours of cycle and like he is still
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  incredibly fit. It's just if the legs can't
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  stick to distance. And you've just conducted your
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  own interview a few hours earlier.
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  Thanks for that. We want to tell us about that,
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  who you spoke to. Yeah, So I interviewed Cole
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  Gibbons. A lot of the listeners probably
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  know of him. He's he ran 216 in London in
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  2025. But again, like he'd be at a
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  similar high mileage type of guy.
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  And he, he has recently found his limits as well with the high
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  mileage. So he's been like 250K weeks,
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  but recent lately just there last week or the week before and
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  he sort of felt something in his in his streamer and then he's
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  after having to pull the pin on London as well.
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  But again, super, super smart guy.
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  He's an osteopath and just balancing the YouTube with asked
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  the osteopathy and running, it was really, really good chat.
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  And again, like, he's only 25, he's super young and he's, yeah,
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  super hungry. So it was really, really good to
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  chat with him. So we can probably include him
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  as part of YouTube Diaries, but when did when did you start
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  watching him or when did he like start on YouTube?
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  Has it been like a bit of a explosive path or has he been a
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  steady burn? Steady burn.
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  He's, I think he's been posting on YouTube for four years now
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  and I think I picked him up like 2 years ago and after he ran
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  like a night at the 10 KPBS, you know that race in England he ran
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  3052 or something like that. But saying that like his journey
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  hasn't been straightforward. Like he's been going really,
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  really, really good. And then he was in, in his final
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  years of uni and it just got like all like a lot.
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  And he again, he all this is on his YouTube.
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  He's so, so authentic and personal.
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  And he just went through a rough patch, like mentally and he had
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  to pull the running. And then he finished his college
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  degree and he built back up to run a 216.
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  And so again, all of us on his YouTube, highly recommend and
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  giving it a look. Yeah, it's really, really good.
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  You can follow his whole journey.
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  Sweet. Look forward to it and we'll put
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  So running results, we are off to France.
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  Dean, do you want to kick us off with the?
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  Yeah. The main event, do I start at
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  the top, do you think, or in what order should I should we
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  recap them? Oh, shall I start with?
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  The tech case, yeah. Probably less less to talk
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  about, but and perhaps is to set the scene because did you, are
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  you guys familiar with this otherwise familiar with this
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  race? They've sort of caught me a bit
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  off guard. It's not one that like, you
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  know, certain races this time of year, like there's certain major
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  marathons we look out for. This wasn't something that I was
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  necessarily, you know, anticipating, but for the fact
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  that I knew Jimmy Gracia was running in it.
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  I feel like there's a lot of these races like popping up now,
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  like at the start there was like Valencia 10K known to be super
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  fast and a few more throughout Europe.
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  But now I feel like every month there is a super flat fast
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  course somewhere with really, really fast runners running
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  there. And like, even I think next
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  month or this month coming, there is going to be another one
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  that I think Namio are supporting.
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  And the one in Stockholm in Sweden, like that's going to get
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  some crazy times as well. Again, another pancake flat
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  course. And I feel they're popping up
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  everywhere. But yeah, this one in Lille,
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  never heard of before, but it was very, very fast.
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  I feel like people have figured out that like there's that much
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  demand to run fast times that literally if you can just find a
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  flat loop, maybe like a mile plus or even an out and back or
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  a circular within any town, there's probably the demand to
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  like sell that race out. And because you're doing it in a
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  town, there's probably going to be decent support on the streets
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  so that, yeah, they're just popping up left, right and
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  center. Yeah.
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  And I mean, we saw that was at the Tokyo speed race that Essex
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  pulled on. And then as you mentioned on,
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  we've been a little bit Privy to some of the chats around some of
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  the thinking with the Namio race.
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  And then we obviously chatted with the the fly car guys as
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  well about some of the work that they're putting on with their
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  races. Like and we've seen like the
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  success of some of like their own races that they've got
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  behind. Like it seems like brands are
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  looking to partner with races and with the shoe movement and
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  there's wave light tech on the, you know, there's all these
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  ingredients that people are putting in the things with like
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  Gnomeo fly card that and the best conditions you're putting
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  together these awesome races that I think capture everyone's
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  attention. And I suppose for the roads,
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  they rewrote the road records. They the World Athletics
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  restated them a few years ago because a lot of them may have
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  been point to point or there's certain criteria now.
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  And as a result, a lot of these European and world records are
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  getting rerun, which is exciting because it means that you feel
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  like you're watching new ground being broken rather than some
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  record of the 80s that is untouchable.
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  You, you what you feel like as a viewer you're experiencing is is
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  uncharted territory, which which yeah, with which this race was
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  no different, right. So that I think that they're
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  fairly small ish fields but they were very top end heavy so.
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  Yeah, to get go back to your original point around this kind
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  of like coming out of nowhere and creeping up on us and
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  touching on what you just said there with the fields as well,
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  pre the London call and record, we're just like in the studio.
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  And Tim mentioned he was doing a race on the weekend and Jake was
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  like, oh, what is it? And he said that it's this one
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  in Leo. Like we've just kind of got a
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  late entry. And Jake was like, have you seen
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  the field? And Tim was like, no, no, like,
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  pretty unassuming. And I said, I've literally was
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  just looking at the field. So then we read it out and he
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  was like, jeez, didn't realize what he'd signed up for, almost.
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  But like to have a 5K and A10K as equally stacked is just
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  because a lot of them. If you're going to be a fast 5K
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  runner you're going to be a fast 10K runner realistically.
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  And to get like 2 events that are equally as deep is crazy.
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  So, yeah, so I suppose just to dive into the results, so in the
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  men's 10K, the winner was Kaari Bajiga from Ethiopia in 2651,
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  second was Lebanon Kosgai from Kenya in 2659, and third was
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  Cornelius Connor 27 O 6. And then I guess, yeah, I mean
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  the, the results just just flow from there.
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  There was what 10th was in 2739, which for context that's the
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  same or close to the same time as what the UK 10K record is
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  from Valencia, right. All was nearly run at Valencia,
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  Yeah. And in terms of other notable
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  performances, so that were outside of that, so our Callum
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  Morgan from Ireland was 32nd in 2816, Zach Muhammad from GB
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  202820, Liam Burden, who as we know from the from the other
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  from from your chats, Ryan, they've been training, Tim and
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  Liam from Bruce, Ben together, been training together, doing
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  some of these races together. So he was 42nd in 2833.
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  Tim Vincent from London Calling was in 55th to 2850.
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  And just a couple of others. Which is it?
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  Dara Mcelhenny was 45th and 2836, George Wheeler 2839,
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  Charles Wheeler 2847. So that's a paper.
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  Is that a PB for Tim I think as well.
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  Yeah, I think just inside this, I know, I think he's wrote PB.
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  Yeah, 2914, but I think that was a little while ago.
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  And yeah, maybe I have no idea. I tried to ask him like, are you
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  going to use it as a as a marathon session and do it on
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  fatigue legs? And he was like, no, I need to
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  give this race the respect it deserves, especially on the back
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  of figuring out what that field looks like.
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  So I mean to run a 10 KPB in marathon training is very
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  impressive. Regarding Dara, that was his.
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  He was his first 10K on the road.
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  Like his first could have been his first 10K in general.
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  And his Strava caption. Is this baptism of fire on the
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  roads? Went out too hard and blew a
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  gasket. 8O633K wasn't my wisest move.
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  Lessons learned, on to the next. So yeah, I'd say I feel like in
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  that race, everyone is at such a high level that you have to back
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  yourself to go with them fast times.
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  But if you're not on it and you go out that hard, it's so, so
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  easy to blow up. So like, kudos to backing
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  yourself and going out, but that would have been very painful.
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  So that's shit. What pace is that?
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  That's like. 730-2730. 27 dead. I think that's 27 flat pace.
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  Yeah. So yeah.
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  They're like, because that's 2418 through 9 K, right?
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  And then you're adding 240 on top of that or you know, 242.
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  That's 27 dead pace. That's Aussie record.
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  Pace. So the fact that he held on is
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  very, very impressive. He would have been.
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  Four, Yeah. It's in life.
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  Yeah, which I was suicide if. He did that, yeah.
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  He would have been taking the euthanasia going through the
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  third case split. His fastest split he ran A243240
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  and in the end he was I think his last K was 306, which yeah,
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  Ouch. But I mean my 10 KPB probably
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  averages like 306 per K so I can hardly comment.
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  But I admire the and the bravery.
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  But yeah, first one, like, I feel like tank on the road is a
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  hard one to nail just because you don't have the mark.
• 23:17
  Like at a track, like you sort of know every 2 1/2 laps you're
• 23:20
  taking it off. Whereas on the road you're sort
• 23:23
  of waiting for that marking to know if you're not familiar with
• 23:27
  the course. So yeah, look, I'm sure he'll be
• 23:30
  back better than ever. Especially if you've never done
• 23:34
  one before, you don't know how hard it's meant to feel and at
• 23:37
  what point until you find out like that.
• 23:40
  Yeah, you don't know like tank 10K like pain if you get me,
• 23:44
  like because it is a bit different to your 5K or your
• 23:46
  half marathon. And so, yeah, it's just about
• 23:49
  getting the feel. Any other I guess just comment
• 23:55
  like obviously say Brits run of 2810 the other day compare like
• 24:02
  Lehman team have ran really well, but you just you know, for
• 24:05
  context running 2810. I know it's on the track and
• 24:08
  it's hard to compare, but you know, it sort of puts puts them
• 24:14
  puts puts that in perspective a little bit.
• 24:16
  And then you think about Kyle Robinson again, who's running
• 24:19
  under 27 minutes is, you know, like there's levels isn't there
• 24:24
  without with a lot of these things.
• 24:27
  Puts a different lens on it. Yeah, but these guys have heavy
• 24:30
  legs, like they're not off tapering.
• 24:32
  Well, are they tapering for this race?
• 24:34
  I don't. I wouldn't presume so, being so
• 24:36
  close to London. No, not without a question, but
• 24:41
  in terms of being being, you know that yeah, it's not, it's
• 24:45
  not a pet event, but it's but there's sort of people that are
• 24:49
  the specialists for like to try and color it like Kai's what one
• 24:54
  of the best 510K runners in the world, you would say, and then
• 24:58
  foot the the best guys. And it's the same for this race
• 25:00
  at running low 27 minutes and then there's 28 low 28 to mid 28
• 25:06
  minutes is the next tier, isn't it?
• 25:09
  It's what a lot of these guys run.
• 25:11
  Does Kai break 60 for the half or is that too Spacey?
• 25:17
  I reckon, yeah, I don't think so.
• 25:20
  Yeah. I would put money on him to do
• 25:22
  it if he went out. Did it?
• 25:23
  I think so. If he gave me 3 to 1, I'd
• 25:28
  probably take. It I would be as confident as it
• 25:33
  was that Grant Fisher was going to do it, but Grant Fisher has
• 25:36
  taught me not to be surprised if someone doesn't convert based on
• 25:40
  Carl. Robinson, Carl Robinson looks
• 25:42
  more efficient I would say, but I don't know.
• 25:46
  Time may tell, hopefully. Yeah.
• 25:49
  The women's 10K so notable Some very notable names in this list.
• 25:57
  The winner was Agnes Mgetich from Kenya in 2858, Second was
• 26:04
  is it Choltu Dida from Ethiopia in 3002 and Heruk Machesha from
• 26:11
  Ethiopia was third in 3005. And notably, Nadia Batikledi,
• 26:16
  who is the reigning indoor 3000 meter world champion, was fourth
• 26:23
  in 3008. And I can't really, I thought I
• 26:26
  saw something about a European record.
• 26:27
  Was she just, she just behind it, wasn't she?
• 26:30
  She just missed Megan O'keefe's Megan Keith's European Record,
• 26:37
  3007. A second back of it and remember
• 26:40
  when Megan Keith ran this the other month and I was saying
• 26:44
  like, it's weird because everyone's saying European
• 26:46
  record, but when you look at World Athletics, there's an an
• 26:49
  Israeli girl who actually appears ahead of her and looking
• 26:54
  at so PC in looking at the results for this, I figured out
• 26:59
  why because she transferred her allegiance from don't know if it
• 27:06
  was definitely Kenya, but one of the African countries.
• 27:09
  So like she can now compete for Israel legally but she's still
• 27:13
  not like record eligible for European records because she was
• 27:18
  born in African country. This isn't a good run by
• 27:23
  Badakhladi. I feel like she should be
• 27:26
  breaking 30. Yeah, me too, although what did
• 27:32
  she run for 5K? Should I run 1420 or something
• 27:37
  like that? Yeah.
• 27:39
  But if you run 1420, it's probably, I mean, yeah, maybe
• 27:43
  like 2940 something. But the factor on Agnes and get
• 27:48
  it is just it's hard to comprehend how she's like a
• 27:51
  minute faster than the closest one and it's 10K.
• 27:56
  Yeah, that's pretty much lacking better clearly on the track,
• 28:00
  right, Yeah. That's hard to like sort of
• 28:02
  imagine in your head. Maybe they've, I don't know, I
• 28:06
  didn't see the race, but perhaps they went out with it, which
• 28:08
  might explain the fact that when they fell off, they really fell
• 28:11
  off. It was mixed as well.
• 28:14
  So like she she's just well, they've all ran with a bunch of
• 28:18
  men, but Nick asset is obviously just gambled and gone further up
• 28:21
  the field and got sucked along better because when when you
• 28:25
  scroll the full results and I guess and get it finished like
• 28:28
  60 odd. So yeah, if you look at, well,
• 28:33
  think about Tim, Tim run 2850 and get it around 2858.
• 28:38
  So she was. Tim was just a few places ahead
• 28:41
  of her in the full field. When you put it like that, that
• 28:45
  is crazy. Like, yeah.
• 28:51
  If you if you're in this race, if this was your Valencia, you
• 28:54
  would have beaten Bass. Classy.
• 28:55
  You might share the few K's with her.
• 29:01
  Beyond my gravestone, that, but not a bad gladdy.
• 29:05
  You would have had something to say on the finish line.
• 29:08
  Yeah, No, I wouldn't. What's your secret, Nadia?
• 29:12
  Yeah. You get such though faster,
• 29:20
  Dean, you said she's the world record holder, so that time that
• 29:24
  she's run there gives her two of the three fastest times ever as
• 29:27
  well. So she's got a bit of a monopoly
• 29:31
  over this 10K on the road. Yeah, not very impressive.
• 29:38
  But I don't get how you can do this one week.
• 29:42
  Well, you know, it's very easy to actually just not like in New
• 29:45
  York she was shit like black and white.
• 29:47
  She was terrible in New York half marathon.
• 29:49
  She was nowhere. She.
• 29:50
  Was shit. She wasn't shit.
• 29:52
  She just got dusted. But she tried to run.
• 29:55
  She tried to run Helen O'berry off her fate and just couldn't.
• 30:00
  She fired a heap of shots expected to be She did exactly
• 30:04
  what she did to everyone at World Cross.
• 30:05
  It's just for the first time in a long time, there was someone
• 30:08
  still there after she fired those shots.
• 30:12
  Which is really, She's running. Like, what did she run?
• 30:15
  What did help her beer on 65? Yeah.
• 30:19
  Yeah, I know what you're saying. It didn't look all that
• 30:21
  impressive. Yeah, she's.
• 30:23
  Running like 33 minutes slower. Yeah, I know.
• 30:27
  Yeah, it's a bit of a turn around.
• 30:29
  You reckon? Yeah, but that's wrong as well.
• 30:33
  No. Yeah, I like, I don't know.
• 30:41
  But yeah, it is a turn around in form, I would say from that half
• 30:45
  marathon. Then there was a 5K as well, was
• 30:49
  there? Yes.
• 30:50
  I assume these were the. They must have been on the same
• 30:54
  day. But like when you see the you've
• 30:56
  seen some of the clips that have come through from social media,
• 30:59
  like how insanely packed the road was, how the bloody hell
• 31:03
  would they saw all those people out?
• 31:05
  Like get back off the roads. There's a 10K coming through
• 31:08
  now. It's like Tour de France ask,
• 31:10
  wasn't it? Yeah, it's a good vibe.
• 31:13
  It looked good. Yeah, it looked very cool.
• 31:17
  I mean, you have to, yeah, we'll hopefully be able to get a bit
• 31:21
  of insight into what that atmosphere was like, right?
• 31:26
  Yeah, from 10. Yeah.
• 31:28
  Well, and you see here, we had two listeners on the ground as
• 31:32
  well, that Luke Duchess, the guy who sent through shit, I can't
• 31:37
  remember what meet it was. It was one of the indoor meets.
• 31:40
  He sent some videos through the other months and he, like, ran
• 31:43
  home. And then another guy, French
• 31:46
  guy, Robin Anderson, he actually ran the race himself, run like
• 31:51
  30-4 minute PB. So thanks like so much to those
• 31:55
  two. They've sent through some their
• 31:57
  own photos and videos, which is pretty cool.
• 32:00
  We can use them in the post. Did you say a 34 or 3 or 4?
• 32:05
  3434 I think it was. Sure.
• 32:09
  In the 10K, yeah, yeah, it's, it's kind of full circle with
• 32:16
  this, this Robin guy as well. So when I lived and worked up in
• 32:19
  Broome, when I first moved to Australia, he was there as a
• 32:22
  backpacker as well. So we've done the small pieces
• 32:26
  of training that I'd done in Broome.
• 32:28
  Some of it was shared with him. And he's since moved back to
• 32:31
  France. Now he's racing in this race,
• 32:33
  sending the podcast videos. He's a good guy.
• 32:39
  That's very cool. So yeah.
• 32:44
  So in terms of the five KS, I'll read out a few of the results
• 32:48
  from the men's 5K. The winner was Jimmy Gracia, who
• 32:53
  was the Who's the current men's 10,000 meters world champion for
• 33:01
  on the track from Tokyo last year.
• 33:04
  So he won in 1251, beating home Adisu Yuno from Ethiopia in 1254
• 33:11
  and Jan Shrub who was third at the World Indoor 3K just getting
• 33:19
  out dipped by Josh Kerr and Cole Hawker was it last month He was
• 33:24
  third home in 1256. Some other notable mentions is
• 33:30
  Nordas from the Norwegian, who was seventh in 1310 and the
• 33:38
  Frenchman is it Flavian shot first in was 10th in the older
• 33:45
  fellow Frenchmen to Shrub, should I say was 10th in 1318.
• 33:51
  Just to comment in terms of French runners at the minute,
• 33:55
  are they not like it's like a ripple effect of the Olympics
• 34:01
  from 2024, but I just feel like there's a few men in particular
• 34:06
  running very well. Like it's not just one guy who's
• 34:09
  do you remember? Like in the Diamond Leagues last
• 34:11
  year, there was like 3 of them that I think broke 13 minutes
• 34:13
  for 5K. Like the French men are.
• 34:17
  I don't know if they feel like a real force.
• 34:19
  And you saw that, We saw that, didn't we, in the team's event
• 34:23
  at the World Cross as well? I feel like they're, yeah, they
• 34:28
  seem to have quite a bit of depth in middle distance at the
• 34:31
  minute, which is cool. Yeah, I've had similar thoughts.
• 34:34
  You know, sometimes when you scroll results and the in the
• 34:37
  results, they'll just have like the country's flag.
• 34:40
  So sometimes I'll just scroll and like I'll have the British
• 34:45
  flag or the Australian flag or the Irish flag in the back of my
• 34:48
  mind. Like if I see that, I'll stop
• 34:50
  and like have a look who it is and stuff.
• 34:52
  And now, yeah, you start to see the French flag cropping up more
• 34:56
  and more and more, whereas previously I would have almost
• 35:00
  like, no offence to French, but like, dismissed French athletes
• 35:03
  because I wasn't aware of them or they were never like, kind of
• 35:08
  at the pointy end of these results.
• 35:10
  But you are right. And the Paris comparison makes
• 35:14
  sense, I guess if they would have French government over a
• 35:18
  long period of time invested heavily into track and field,
• 35:20
  wouldn't they? And they're probably going to
• 35:23
  bear fruition to that for the next couple of years.
• 35:29
  Any comment in terms of this race?
• 35:30
  I mean, you guys would have, did you guys say the the highlights
• 35:34
  package that's been doing the the rounds on social media in
• 35:37
  terms of the finish? It's wild, isn't it?
• 35:43
  So how it? Look cool.
• 35:45
  That the rail you sent through, there's like 4 of them, isn't
• 35:48
  it? Must be Grecia.
• 35:50
  You hear a shrub and maybe that good honor as well.
• 35:53
  And there's what, like maybe 605 hundred meters to go at that
• 35:58
  point, and it already looks like they're all sprinting and then
• 36:03
  Gressier just pulls away. Doesn't mean you're like this
• 36:06
  guy. Hey, like, yeah, so these guys,
• 36:10
  he was what, 4th or he was behind them at that point in
• 36:13
  time. And there's this great footage
• 36:16
  of the his rear end basically, and he's in all white.
• 36:19
  He's in an all white light speed suit is press Yeah, and he's
• 36:23
  sitting behind them and you can just see they've ran around the
• 36:25
  corner. He's about to launch his attack
• 36:27
  because they're on the final straight and he unleashes some
• 36:32
  mighty kick. I mean, he only wins by three
• 36:34
  seconds, but it looked pretty dominant and he looked he looked
• 36:41
  very impressive. But as you mentioned, I don't
• 36:43
  think it wasn't like the guys behind him didn't have something
• 36:48
  left either. They looked like they were
• 36:49
  really pressing for home to. It's just he was, he just had
• 36:53
  another gear, another level. You know, you know, I love the
• 36:58
  facts of I've got some here. So Gressier and Shrub, who
• 37:03
  finished that with these runs, go #1 and #2 on the European 5K
• 37:08
  all list all time. And bizarrely, they replace
• 37:13
  themselves as #1 and #2 because they already held those
• 37:17
  positions, both of them. They've just each run a couple
• 37:20
  of seconds faster. And the reason they were there
• 37:23
  on the list is because they've done it the exact same thing at
• 37:26
  this race last year. So aggressive around 12:57 and
• 37:30
  Shrub 13 dead. And here they are.
• 37:33
  They've just nudged a couple of seconds off it again.
• 37:37
  And did you say have you seen if there's been a few posts on
• 37:43
  Gracia's splits by Cat? No.
• 37:48
  So the the one I can see here it's 230-3239, 238-230-5226 so.
• 37:59
  2/26. 226 That's why I like, you know, like Shrub.
• 38:06
  Shrub was kicking down with the two of the best guys in the
• 38:09
  world, two of the best kickers in the world, right in Poland a
• 38:15
  month or so ago, has beaten Armgren to get the European 10K
• 38:19
  record like he's in some sort of form.
• 38:22
  And Gressie has somehow put 5 seconds into him over 500
• 38:25
  meters, like it was, it was very impressive, wasn't it?
• 38:30
  And so that, yeah, Shrubs probably closed in in 2:30,
• 38:36
  which is 62nd pace on the track. And he's and he's got dusted by,
• 38:40
  yeah, 5 seconds as Britain is. I know it was a very cool race.
• 38:48
  In reference to your, your French comments as well, it
• 38:50
  makes the European outdoors upcoming even more exciting
• 38:54
  because maybe you would look at that on paper and be like, oh,
• 38:57
  there's no US, there's no like Africans.
• 39:01
  But then we've now we know about Almgren, we've got the French,
• 39:05
  we love the British, the Irish. It'll still be insane.
• 39:11
  Probably the other comment as well was, and we've spoken about
• 39:16
  this a little bit of like with the likes of Jimmy Whelan, but
• 39:20
  Jimmy Grassy is shoe sponsor. Is it called Kip Run?
• 39:24
  Does anyone know too much about? I don't really don't know much
• 39:28
  about their shoes, but I just was it when it got announced?
• 39:31
  He just got announced that he was getting paid an absolute
• 39:33
  packet. About 750 K EUR was it
• 39:38
  something? Yeah.
• 39:39
  And so there's just talk about this huge bonus that he was
• 39:42
  getting to run in their shoes. But but the fact that he's run,
• 39:47
  what was he 2 seconds off the world record in these shoes?
• 39:50
  Like, yeah. I am, I actually just before
• 39:55
  Jimmy Gezi running them, but I actually bought 2 pairs there
• 39:59
  last week. Or two weeks ago, so I bought
• 40:02
  like a daily trainer, it's called like the Kip run Kip
• 40:05
  ride. And then I bought another one,
• 40:09
  the Kip run Kip storm tempo or something like that.
• 40:14
  And actually your man jog on Craig Crago, he actually done a
• 40:19
  video on that one there today and he compared it to the Super
• 40:24
  blast, the ASIC super blast. So they're like, I bought some
• 40:29
  of their, their clothes and all and like they're really cheap,
• 40:34
  but they're really good as well. Well, that's what I was going
• 40:38
  to, I was going to ask is that it's comparison maybe in field,
• 40:41
  but it doesn't hit the hip pocket, does it as much.
• 40:46
  So the daily trainer was €90.00 and the the tempo shoe was 120
• 40:55
  so. What does that look like?
• 40:57
  Because what? What when you're normally buying
• 40:59
  a pair of trainers? Like if you bought a pair of
• 41:01
  axes, what daily training will cost you?
• 41:04
  The Nova blast is €150 and the May are the Super blast is 220
• 41:10
  euro. Oh shit.
• 41:12
  So that's now half price basically.
• 41:17
  I've worn them a couple of times and he's just like once you get
• 41:21
  a fair idea once you put 100K into them, because I think the
• 41:24
  temple ones, it does like award them the first time and they
• 41:28
  didn't feel that great, but apparently you have to break
• 41:30
  them in and then they get their bounce.
• 41:33
  Now the daily trainer. I warned that a good bit now and
• 41:37
  I'm really liking that one. So, umm, like all like like I
• 41:43
  said this before, like all the shoe brands are on 11 playing
• 41:45
  level playing field. Like you just need to find what
• 41:50
  works for you basically, and there is cheaper alternatives
• 41:54
  there. Now, I don't know if he's going
• 41:55
  to be durable. You have to wait and see.
• 41:58
  But like Asic's, like the reason ASIC can probably charge as much
• 42:02
  because they're or indeed their research and development.
• 42:05
  They probably put a lot more money into like, like
• 42:08
  researching and developing, but like Kip run like for the price,
• 42:13
  it's very, very, very underrated.
• 42:16
  And I think there's the Catalan in Australia as well.
• 42:19
  So that's where you'd buy them in the Catalan.
• 42:23
  But yeah, it's good stuff. I do wonder with like because
• 42:28
  have you seen any of is it Matt Fox's through sweater Lake, some
• 42:31
  of his posts about going over to China and trying some of these
• 42:34
  shoes? I wonder if there'll be a video
• 42:36
  or two that comes out regarding that.
• 42:39
  But like May, may we see just a wave of low cost shoes that are
• 42:48
  manufactured similarly and perform well enough that yeah,
• 42:55
  shake up the current shoe market, I wonder.
• 42:59
  Because like, some of them are extortionate, some of them are
• 43:01
  so, so expensive. Like something sort of has to be
• 43:04
  done, but. If they don't offer anything
• 43:07
  drastically different from a performance spec perspective,
• 43:09
  which as we are saying the the likes of Jimmy Gracia running
• 43:14
  these times in them, it's sort of what, what are you paying for
• 43:17
  then? Yeah, yeah.
• 43:19
  It'll be problematic for the brands if any of these Chinese
• 43:23
  ones end up being actually good and if, well, the tenant point
• 43:28
  is when people start trying them, isn't it?
• 43:30
  And if people try them and like them, then that becomes a
• 43:34
  problem because people start talking about it as we're
• 43:37
  starting to see one of those ones Fox had on his story.
• 43:42
  You're saying he'd been to a market and pick them up or
• 43:45
  something and you're saying that they they were good, but it
• 43:49
  looked like he'd got them out like the lost property MPE or
• 43:53
  something. You know, an old pair of
• 43:56
  trainers someone had left in the changing rooms.
• 43:58
  And he's just like, don't even know what brand it is, but good.
• 44:03
  But yeah, the video will come no doubt, hopefully give us a
• 44:05
  detailed explanation. Any more comments on that 5K?
• 44:11
  No comment on Gressier's contract though it does look
• 44:15
  like it was around €800,000 and they announced that over 12
• 44:21
  months ago, like start of 2025. So that was obviously outrageous
• 44:27
  at the times, probably still outrageous now.
• 44:29
  But look at what he's since done.
• 44:31
  I wouldn't be surprised if he's going back to the negotiating
• 44:35
  table with them and being like, hey, he's offered to pay me this
• 44:38
  before. I was a world champion and I've
• 44:41
  just run the European record. Is there any any top up like?
• 44:46
  Yeah, I mean, they got him. No, didn't they?
• 44:49
  They they played that very, very nicely.
• 44:53
  And they're a French brand, so like, they love it.
• 44:57
  The women's 5K, Marta Alemayo from Ethiopia was the winner of
• 45:05
  1415, Harwi Abira from Ethiopia was second in 1422 and third was
• 45:12
  Yenanesh Shimket from Ethiopia in 1424.
• 45:18
  Is it in India? Weir was 10th from JB was in
• 45:23
  1515. Any other notable performances?
• 45:28
  Again, I didn't say as much out of this.
• 45:29
  I must admit I think it was the women's 10K and the men's 5K
• 45:33
  that I saw snippets from. I was doing a bit of research
• 45:38
  here on the person who won. So she was born, well, no
• 45:42
  happened. She was born in 2008 and I was
• 45:45
  looking at our World Athletics and she's pretty fast.
• 45:51
  So she's one of them Ethiopians. I don't know if her record got
• 45:53
  ratified because she was in that under 20.
• 45:56
  Remember, a load of their under 20 records didn't get ratified
• 45:59
  because they don't actually know their age.
• 46:03
  This one, her agent is Jonas McKeon Mckeonan.
• 46:08
  He's from America. He's also the agent for, well,
• 46:11
  Teji. So I'm not saying anything, but,
• 46:14
  well, Teji has been, well, she didn't give her doping sample.
• 46:19
  And he does, like, just seems to, like, represent a lot of
• 46:22
  Ethiopians and Kenyans. And was it always like the
• 46:27
  gender? I thought it was male and
• 46:29
  female. Now it's like man and woman on
• 46:34
  there and beside their name. I know that's a bit random, but
• 46:39
  yeah, she's super like, what age is she 17?
• 46:44
  Yeah. And teach gone 18 in a couple of
• 46:48
  days. 18-2 days, yeah. Yeah, super talented.
• 46:54
  Ethiopia 123 How often have we been saying that in these
• 46:58
  distance events? And 2000 and eight, 2000 and
• 47:02
  six, 2007. They're all really young as
• 47:04
  well. So the future looks bright, is
• 47:06
  it? That's that's.
• 47:09
  No, I was just going to mention Costa, how housing, Costa Health
• 47:13
  and from Germany was 7th in 1504.
• 47:16
  That was who I think I was trying to remember when we were
• 47:20
  talking about the German national all time half marathon
• 47:23
  times. So that's a familiar name from a
• 47:26
  few years ago that's must be making a return to fall.
• 47:31
  She was with a Nike group in America and then I think Sonia
• 47:36
  Sullivan used to culture or help her out, and then she's gone
• 47:39
  with Puma, so it's nice to see her getting back.
• 47:44
  The crazy thing about those Ethiopians as well as they're
• 47:48
  not, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that they are
• 47:52
  usually like some of the names that crop up in these results
• 47:56
  either like Halon, Beret, whoever else they are.
• 48:00
  Those names are kind of pretty new to me if I'm being honest.
• 48:05
  And the fact they're all like kind of 14 low is like way below
• 48:10
  British, Australian, Irish national records and there's
• 48:13
  just a whole crop of them down there.
• 48:16
  Yeah. And like, again, like this is
• 48:19
  the first time, well, you're one who won.
• 48:21
  It has got under 18 world records, and I think this one
• 48:25
  was an under 20 world record. And so be interesting to see
• 48:29
  where she ends up in the coming year if she does like Diamond
• 48:32
  Leagues or anything like that, because 1415 is absolutely
• 48:35
  rapid. In looking at the like the
• 48:39
  British and Irish and Australian angles on this though, it made
• 48:42
  me think both the Australian and the Irish records are
• 48:47
  potentially gettable, that they wouldn't be easy.
• 48:50
  But Beneatha Willis from Australia to still hold a record
• 48:54
  from 2002 suggests it might be a little bit outdated.
• 48:58
  And that's maybe because five KS on the road aren't all that
• 49:03
  popular in Australia as they are in Europe.
• 49:06
  But I think there's a there's a fair few Australian girls who
• 49:09
  could run 1459 right now. So if if the records are
• 49:15
  weighted equally in the contracts, I'd be I'd be
• 49:19
  targeting that if I was one of these girls and the.
• 49:23
  Average. What?
• 49:25
  You're one there. Marta Aleimo.
• 49:26
  She won the under 20 world cross country title in Tallahassee
• 49:31
  this year. So yeah, she's on one.
• 49:38
  The Irish record Owen goes back to your one Sonya O'Sullivan.
• 49:43
  Your woman not cheering, 1456. 1456 yeah, like when you're
• 49:50
  hitting them sub trim in a case, it's it's getting fast.
• 49:56
  What of Irish women run on the track?
• 49:58
  Because I'm trying to think what British women is like 1420 odd
• 50:03
  1430. I know the road gets slower,
• 50:08
  can't be 30 seconds slower. I don't know like I don't might
• 50:12
  get in trouble for this, but I don't think the Irish like Irish
• 50:15
  male distance running is in a better position than the Irish
• 50:19
  female distance running like some little lads.
• 50:23
  I think Brian Faye has run 13 O1, Dara Mcaleny is around 13 O
• 50:27
  2 and Nick Griggs is around like 13 O six or something like that
• 50:31
  is up there. And I don't think like normally
• 50:34
  in the distance event, Ireland don't really do anything in the
• 50:36
  women. So there's a bit of work to be
• 50:40
  done. Yeah, well the here we go the
• 50:43
  fastest 5K on the road from an Irish woman since 2003 is 1535.
• 50:52
  That was Emily Kearney in 2025. Like that's not not going to get
• 50:57
  you into many European competitions.
• 51:02
  Right then Leo Dunn and dusted spent quite a while in France
• 51:06
  there, but some good analysis store gift also happened this
• 51:10
  weekend. I can't come to terms with this
• 51:13
  event. It's an all of the gifts across.
• 51:16
  Do they have them all over Australia or is it like largely
• 51:18
  A Victorian thing like the handicap events?
• 51:22
  Aren't they So like it can be Dean, I might need your help
• 51:25
  here, but I'll try and explain it.
• 51:27
  It can be anyone from like club runner up to professional
• 51:31
  athletes can start in these races and everyone is assigned A
• 51:36
  handicap relative to their form or ability.
• 51:41
  So they everyone starts at different points around the
• 51:44
  track to try and make the race fair on paper as pay form.
• 51:49
  So you can have middle-aged fellas, middle-aged women, old
• 51:53
  fellas, old women, juniors, pros, all on the same start
• 51:57
  line. And they run this on a grass
• 52:00
  track, which is in a run bit of a random shape, isn't it?
• 52:03
  Kind of like, I don't know how you would describe it, like an
• 52:08
  Oval but with one pointy end and that this it's you typically.
• 52:16
  It's just normal grass track. Is it?
• 52:19
  Yeah, yeah, they measure out a grass track.
• 52:21
  Yeah. A 400 meter Oval.
• 52:24
  Yeah, yeah. But the sprints are 120 meter,
• 52:27
  so they're like diagonal across the Oval if you get me.
• 52:32
  Yeah, and most of the disciplines are Sprint
• 52:38
  orientated, but there are 800 mile, maybe even 2 mile.
• 52:44
  Yeah, so when I was there in 2024, I'd done this all gift.
• 52:48
  I'd done the two mile, so I was off.
• 52:51
  I think I had the third worst handicap, so there was 2.
• 52:56
  I think I was running off 2800 meters or something.
• 52:59
  Oh no, a 2002, 1960 meters or something like that.
• 53:05
  I'd a little bit of a head start on like two people, but then
• 53:08
  other people could have had like a lap head start on me.
• 53:12
  So it is. But like I think it's yeah, it
• 53:15
  is based on your PB. So they were using the PB from
• 53:19
  like a while back for me. But the whole point is to give
• 53:24
  everyone like a fair ad advantage.
• 53:28
  I think it is a really, really cool concept.
• 53:31
  But apparently because the style gift it's it's the richest foot
• 53:34
  race in is it the world or Australia?
• 53:41
  It's like 60 grand for the win basically.
• 53:44
  So it's heard of that people go hiding for a couple of years
• 53:48
  because it's worth their while to get a really good handicap
• 53:52
  today and just come out of the blue and win this race and you
• 53:55
  can well, you definitely used to be able to gamble as well.
• 53:59
  So you could bet on people to win.
• 54:03
  Now I don't know how that works when the when there's like under
• 54:06
  eighteens in the race. I don't know if you can do on
• 54:08
  that, but yeah, I remember I was terrible odds when I went there.
• 54:15
  Yeah, no, it's a really, really cool and it's in the middle of
• 54:17
  nowhere. So when I was doing my regional
• 54:20
  work, I just grabbed the first thing I could get and I was
• 54:23
  working then in a caravan park install.
• 54:27
  So when I heard them like you rock up there, it's like three
• 54:31
  hours outside Melbourne when you rock up.
• 54:34
  And I was like, this is where the richest foot race in
• 54:36
  Australia is. I was like, how did this like
• 54:39
  there's a turn track at the other side of like the, the
• 54:44
  village or town or whatever. Like all there is is 1 Woolies,
• 54:48
  a gym hall, a couple of coffee shops.
• 54:50
  Like it's tiny and in the middle of nowhere.
• 54:54
  So it's it's actually, it's pretty, pretty good.
• 54:57
  I'd highly recommend going if you ever over there in April.
• 55:03
  Did you get eaten up on your handicap by the two fellows
• 55:05
  behind you? No, I actually I was.
• 55:10
  They finished like halfway down the home straight.
• 55:13
  I don't know what way it works, but I was coming.
• 55:16
  I was winning coming around the bend and two lads passed me so I
• 55:21
  came third. But there's good money in it.
• 55:23
  I still think I've got like £190.00 for coming third, which
• 55:28
  yeah, it's, it plays well. Not bad when you pulling your
• 55:35
  weights on a caravan park to go and pick up £190.00.
• 55:38
  And the year I was there and it was everything was so I
• 55:43
  literally got off for like 2 hours.
• 55:45
  I could warm up racing and I was going to go back to work because
• 55:48
  the caravan park is absolutely packed that time of year because
• 55:51
  everyone comes to it and so. Christian Coleman are in that
• 55:57
  caravan this year. Genuine.
• 55:59
  It's crazy to think that 2 like celebrities are rocking up to
• 56:03
  like the back ass of Australia. But the year I was there it
• 56:09
  absolutely last rained so they couldn't actually run the races.
• 56:14
  They had to like post delay everything.
• 56:16
  Like Peter Ball was there. I remember.
• 56:18
  That one, yeah. It absolutely last rain, so they
• 56:22
  were good enough. I they let me stay on, but my 18
• 56:25
  had to go back to work. She missed it.
• 56:28
  Or she might just came back up for the race or something like
• 56:30
  that. I can't remember.
• 56:31
  But yeah, it's a really, really cool event.
• 56:35
  But yeah, we don't really usually cover the Sprint
• 56:37
  results, but this felt like a bit of a special occasion to
• 56:41
  mentioned that Shikari, well, she was like huge star sign.
• 56:46
  And like, I couldn't believe that.
• 56:49
  I thought it was like April Fool's or something when you
• 56:51
  read the headlines. Shikari Richardson and Christian
• 56:53
  Coleman are coming to the store gift.
• 56:56
  And she managed to win the women's 120 meters off a
• 57:01
  handicap of scratch, which meant that she runs the full distance
• 57:05
  and then everyone else is staggered, starts ahead of her.
• 57:08
  And they have this like really cool drone shot.
• 57:11
  You will have seen the clips where you get a bed's eye view
• 57:15
  of all the lanes and you can see perfectly, like the gaps each
• 57:19
  person has on each other. And the way you just see her
• 57:22
  like eat them all is absolutely outrageous because in fairness,
• 57:26
  in the final, she's they're all very, very good athletes.
• 57:31
  And like Owen said, some of them have just tried to fiddle their
• 57:34
  handicap so they can have a bit of a better shot at winning.
• 57:38
  But when you see them, they're all in insane shape, like very
• 57:42
  fast, over 100 meter time trial. Like some of them are handlers
• 57:45
  and stuff. And then, yeah, you see what
• 57:48
  Shikari can do to these women. It's outrageous.
• 57:52
  And I think the the organizers in the meet will have got their
• 57:55
  money's worth out of hair from that.
• 57:59
  And it's normally very rare to see bucket back market win like
• 58:02
  I think it was. Is it Brie masters?
• 58:04
  She might have changed her. She might have married recently,
• 58:07
  but she won last year from the back and I think that was quite
• 58:12
  unusual. While the bookies would have
• 58:13
  been lame. Pretty good odds for that.
• 58:16
  But then to yeah, see it happen again.
• 58:18
  And did you see Shikari Richardson semi final because
• 58:24
  they did a hate and I think that's the one that did the
• 58:26
  rounds on social media earlier over the long weekend.
• 58:29
  But then yesterday she had a sorry Saturday, she had a semi
• 58:33
  final or might have even be yesterday morning.
• 58:36
  And then they ran the final in the afternoon.
• 58:37
  But she won her semi finals. So they've they've run these
• 58:40
  semi finals, but it's only the winner of each semi final goes
• 58:43
  through to the final. And she eased up crossing the
• 58:46
  line and there was someone in a very wide line to her very
• 58:49
  outside that she didn't see. I don't perhaps didn't see but
• 58:53
  she's easing up and she literally just picked the person
• 58:56
  through their head forward to dip.
• 58:59
  The person that Shikari was racing her head crossed the line
• 59:03
  before her but her chest didn't. And you mentioned from the chest
• 59:06
  so she literally just got through which is pretty cool.
• 59:09
  Yeah, it's literally like that. She's so close the the
• 59:14
  organizers would have been sweating like.
• 59:16
  What are you doing? Yeah, I mean, then everyone
• 59:19
  would have tuned tuned out if she didn't make the final.
• 59:22
  But it's a bit crazy the way they didn't do Mori plant as
• 59:24
  well. Like they could have easily won
• 59:25
  up sprinting Mori plant. Like just made the money.
• 59:29
  Yeah and the appearance fee you would have thought you would
• 59:31
  have got because more plants, Yeah, yeah, makes no sense.
• 59:36
  Let's. Say no most let's say no money
• 59:38
  to pay them. I'd say try and get Shikari and
• 59:40
  Christian Coleman like as a package deal to Murray plant and
• 59:43
  the gift the the state of Victoria would be would feel
• 59:49
  that hard in the pockets. Did they did that just get done
• 59:52
  for D while something like that maybe there's like a dangerous.
• 59:55
  Drivement, yeah. Yeah, maybe there's.
• 59:57
  Some hate cases. Their hate cases.
• 59:59
  Yeah. So maybe there's.
• 59:59
  Hasn't she? There's been like a domestic
• 1:00:02
  violence case from hair to him as well.
• 1:00:07
  And she missed a world champs with.
• 1:00:09
  Didn't she get done for weed? Yeah, they're always in the news
• 1:00:14
  for the wrong reasons. Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Spicy character say the least. Yeah.
• 1:00:21
  Was funny though, you know, after that semi final you just
• 1:00:23
  mentioned mentioned and she got interviewed and she said
• 1:00:27
  something like, Oh yeah, you know, like run through the line
• 1:00:31
  and the guy's like run through the line.
• 1:00:33
  You just backed off and almost missed the final.
• 1:00:35
  And she was like, well, yeah, I promise I'll run through the
• 1:00:37
  line for the final. Just.
• 1:00:40
  Pretty chill. But yeah, her partner didn't
• 1:00:46
  manage to win the men's one. I think he he went out in the
• 1:00:48
  semis. He couldn't, he couldn't make up
• 1:00:51
  the ground of the handicaps. And the fella who did win, she,
• 1:00:56
  I don't even know who he was, but they were saying basically
• 1:01:00
  it kind of been written for him almost based on his handicap,
• 1:01:05
  like he was the favorite. I think if you're talking about
• 1:01:08
  the bookies, odds and stuff, it was pretty comprehensive as
• 1:01:12
  well. He's kind of like in the lead
• 1:01:13
  the whole way. Wasn't as dramatic as the
• 1:01:16
  women's one. Happy to move on from stall.
• 1:01:21
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• 1:02:02
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• 1:02:06
  results and we're trying to give you like a lot of insight into
• 1:02:09
  the stories and stuff for the people who are winning these
• 1:02:11
  races and finishing second, third, fourth, not just their
• 1:02:15
  time. So we feel like we're kind of
• 1:02:18
  undercook in our training weeks on here and not giving it as
• 1:02:21
  much justice as maybe it deserves or in my case it
• 1:02:25
  doesn't deserve seen as alls have been doing is cycling.
• 1:02:29
  But we'll still provide a summary of what we've been up
• 1:02:32
  to. So I mean, Bridges closing in
• 1:02:35
  for me. So just had another nice session
• 1:02:38
  last week. Bit of a threshold, 13K2 by 2K2
• 1:02:42
  by 1K with Dean and some of the lot around the lake, which,
• 1:02:49
  yeah, it's interesting this bridges is coming around pretty
• 1:02:51
  quick. Don't know what to make of it,
• 1:02:53
  but we'll be there nonetheless. And how'd this session feel like
• 1:02:59
  compared to the last couple of weeks?
• 1:03:03
  3K was good because I was deliberately being being
• 1:03:07
  influenced by all this bloody Norwegian shit.
• 1:03:10
  Double threshold and whether that's a good thing or not, but
• 1:03:15
  it's in my head that I need to be running my intervals a little
• 1:03:18
  bit more controlled. So the 3K was more within
• 1:03:22
  myself, which is good. The instruction was for the two
• 1:03:25
  2K's to feel like true threshold.
• 1:03:27
  So the first one was fine, three 20s or something.
• 1:03:31
  Then the second one got a little bit tough towards the end and
• 1:03:34
  then the two by 1K as I think we picked it up.
• 1:03:37
  So maybe like for me it was like 350 and 312 or something.
• 1:03:41
  So nice confidence boost, I guess only heading any trending
• 1:03:48
  upwards. Hopefully with all this, we're
• 1:03:51
  continuing to come together. And yeah, the bike remains a
• 1:03:56
  constant. Either of you when you were
• 1:03:59
  saying offline that you'd you'd had a decent week.
• 1:04:04
  Yeah, so I rather so it's easier on in Monday and Wednesday
• 1:04:11
  Friday off double threshold on a Tuesday 1 threshold on a
• 1:04:17
  Thursday. Saturday was spicy, done some
• 1:04:20
  hills and then I had a threshold after a boys.
• 1:04:24
  The fucking weather it is absolutely, it was biblical.
• 1:04:31
  The rain that fell on Saturday evening.
• 1:04:34
  I kid like no altitude, no heat training could prepare you for
• 1:04:40
  whatever shit I had to run through on Saturday evening.
• 1:04:43
  The wind, the rain, it was whipping around like one Rep.
• 1:04:47
  The wind would be it with you. The next Rep would be in your
• 1:04:49
  face. It would the rain was falling
• 1:04:52
  that hard. It was, it was hurting like it
• 1:04:55
  was so shit. But yeah, just getting it done.
• 1:05:03
  Just getting it done. And obviously I took Black Case
• 1:05:07
  and all that sort of stuff. And so I'll go into that more in
• 1:05:10
  the other episodes. But yeah.
• 1:05:14
  And then Sunday just happened like sort of an easy enough run
• 1:05:17
  and but yeah, getting it done. I'll have a big month of racing
• 1:05:21
  in May, so I sort of have a little plan roll out for the
• 1:05:27
  summer and but yeah, literally just trying to take these weeks
• 1:05:30
  off and I'm sort of like, I'm definitely like on the line.
• 1:05:35
  I just do not want to cross the line.
• 1:05:40
  That's the perfect place to be. Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Well, I'd say I'm just tipping over the line.
• 1:05:47
  I just need to pull it back a little bit, yeah.
• 1:05:51
  Trying my training week, I mean, just similar to I think the last
• 1:05:55
  four or five weeks has been very much the same lot longer
• 1:06:01
  threshold work on a Tuesday, Thursday, it'll be bike
• 1:06:05
  intervals in the morning and then a threshold session in the
• 1:06:09
  afternoon. So yeah, the same Tuesday
• 1:06:13
  workout as what we did with you Ryan.
• 1:06:15
  And then I think the Thursday afternoon was 2 by a minute on,
• 1:06:19
  one minute off. So a bit more of like a
• 1:06:20
  continuous fart leg rather than static recovery that's been past
• 1:06:24
  few weeks. Wasn't anything particularly
• 1:06:29
  impressive, but just getting more work done.
• 1:06:33
  Long ride Saturday and a longer long ish run on Sunday.
• 1:06:39
  My biggest issue at the moment is not necessarily thickness as
• 1:06:43
  well. I mean, that's obviously the
• 1:06:45
  goal is to get fit up, but I'm just.
• 1:06:47
  This is always an issue. That's right.
• 1:06:50
  No matter how fit you are. It's never fit enough but my
• 1:06:55
  ability to increase my running load.
• 1:06:58
  I'm a little bit hamstrung just with my right hand me at the
• 1:07:01
  minute, so feel like I'm in a little bit of a holding pattern,
• 1:07:05
  but other than that I can't complain.
• 1:07:07
  Everything's. Everything's good.
• 1:07:12
  Nice. Well, yeah, we'll unpack a bit
• 1:07:15
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• 1:07:18
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  I'm got too much in here for this week, but did you see that
• 1:07:34
  Mance has pulled the pin on Boston, sadly.
• 1:07:39
  Did say that. Also did say that he's training
• 1:07:43
  partner dropped a new video ahead of Boston.
• 1:07:45
  Did you? So, yeah, it's sort of did,
• 1:07:51
  yeah. I don't know.
• 1:07:52
  I don't know what else to say about connemates, but I did see
• 1:07:55
  Clayton Young's video and enjoyed that.
• 1:07:58
  Like for Clayton, for Clayton, like I don't know how I'd take
• 1:08:02
  it. Like like Clacy or was it Lacey?
• 1:08:05
  What's his name? Clinger.
• 1:08:08
  Casey, Casey Klinger. Casey Klinger, like he's a head
• 1:08:11
  of play in Young like he is going around, yeah.
• 1:08:15
  So was it like so was Casey who was dropping him in the workout
• 1:08:20
  when they did the morning tempo? Yeah, like shit.
• 1:08:23
  Casey is fit, yeah, and that'd be hard to take, I'd say.
• 1:08:27
  Well, he's finally, he's finally got man's injured and about to
• 1:08:32
  put some work in and then he's now he's getting dusted by
• 1:08:35
  someone else. Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  And he's the nicest bloke you can imagine that all you want is
• 1:08:42
  for him to. Succeed, yeah, but yeah, so be
• 1:08:48
  interested. I think Casey is doing Boston as
• 1:08:51
  well. And so yeah, I know.
• 1:08:55
  But yeah, again, like unbelievable content from Peyton
• 1:08:58
  Young. And just even like even the
• 1:09:01
  environment, like, so he he does in this latest video, does that
• 1:09:08
  tempo workout and then it sort of doesn't go to plan.
• 1:09:10
  So then he's, well, let's make the most of it and do a workout
• 1:09:14
  in the afternoon. And who does?
• 1:09:15
  He just gets to join in with the BYU like college crew.
• 1:09:21
  And it's like, what a handy like backup.
• 1:09:23
  It's like, oh, my AM session didn't go to plan on then just
• 1:09:26
  run with all these elite young kids.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah, like, it's a pretty cool environment.
• 1:09:32
  And then don't you love Ed Arstone's Just how he says ready
• 1:09:36
  and go like that sounds such. Familiar ready Go.
• 1:09:44
  And Hassan pulled out of London as well, apparently.
• 1:09:48
  So it's a big name gone. Boston's two weeks today, that's
• 1:09:57
  that's exciting. And then London is the Sunday,
• 1:09:59
  so Boston's on a Monday and London is the Sunday after.
• 1:10:02
  So we're going to be on overtime because we usually record on the
• 1:10:07
  Monday. That typical Monday slot we'd
• 1:10:09
  miss, we wouldn't capture the Boston results.
• 1:10:12
  So we'll have to try and figure something out for Tuesday,
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  Wednesday to bring those cover those results.
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  We'll make it work. With with the man's thing, I
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  don't know whether is it like a dual respect his integrity or
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  honesty in pulling out because he doesn't feel like he's going
• 1:10:34
  to run a PB or whatever. Or do I don't know how I feel
• 1:10:39
  about it because he hasn't necessarily said that he's
• 1:10:41
  injured as he kind of alluded to the fact that training isn't
• 1:10:45
  where he'd want it to be. Which I mean, I guess he's been
• 1:10:49
  a true professional and high performance culture in not
• 1:10:54
  wanting to do something he's not proud of.
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  But. I think I respect it more
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  because he could easily just get a nice payday and freaking like
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  run it and then just pull out after a certain amount because
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  he's not 100%. Whereas he's just not going to
• 1:11:07
  bother because he could put himself in more of a hole or he
• 1:11:11
  might actually have a little niggle that he just doesn't want
• 1:11:14
  to like push the bow out more on.
• 1:11:18
  It Is he going to go a marathon like you're going to want to
• 1:11:23
  take yourself to the absolute limit.
• 1:11:24
  Like you, you want, you want your body and to be ready to go
• 1:11:29
  where you're inevitably going to take yourself to mentally, I
• 1:11:32
  think. It's sort of like Jake is in the
• 1:11:37
  same similar situation, like does he want to run London and
• 1:11:42
  absolutely do himself in for the rest of the year?
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  I don't know if I would. Yeah, but then isn't Connor like
• 1:11:49
  still why I had the Casey and Clayton in these videos in
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  training? Yeah, but I think there's one
• 1:11:57
  thing doing it in a mile wrap when you're doing it for 42 K,
• 1:12:01
  it just beats you up so much. I think you have to be 100% or
• 1:12:04
  you're at nothing. You're pissing against the wind.
• 1:12:08
  And what did he finish fourth there last year, I think, didn't
• 1:12:11
  he? So it's kind of like podium or
• 1:12:12
  bust at the minute. Yeah, yeah, that's all.
• 1:12:17
  He just wants a world major podium and I think it's crazy
• 1:12:19
  that Patty Deaver has one before him.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah, wild upcoming races. There's two marathons this
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  weekend on the 12th, the Rotterdam and the Paris
• 1:12:30
  Marathons. We may have some from the elite
• 1:12:35
  start list here. Yeah, what do you think of these
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  graphics, fellas? Yeah, you just whip that
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  together, get you on the Instagram.
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  That was a little bit of chat Che BT.
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  That's the which ones? That's the Paris 1.
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  So in the women's field in Paris, Elise, that Elisa Vinyo,
• 1:12:58
  she's that Finnish woman who we spoke about.
• 1:13:02
  Did she run Valencia or something earlier in the year?
• 1:13:05
  And we said like she'd run 4 marathons in five months or
• 1:13:09
  something. So only like 2 months have
• 1:13:12
  passed. So she's she's out in another
• 1:13:15
  marathon. This will be like a 5th or 6th
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  within about 8 months and she's ran 220.
• 1:13:21
  It's up to 20 multiple times. Oh well, no, she hasn't.
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  Her PBS there to 2039. Close.
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  She's very good. Did she run her PB in one of
• 1:13:38
  these racing attempts? Do you know, Ron?
• 1:13:40
  I mean, not that it's probably creditable based on what you
• 1:13:43
  just said, but. I think so.
• 1:13:48
  Let me double check. Now you tell me some of the
• 1:13:50
  other field. Well, and the only reason so the
• 1:13:53
  the the the limited accent field that we have in front of us is
• 1:13:58
  Sharon Chilimo who boasted PB21933 and then Elisa Vanyo who
• 1:14:06
  we just spoke about Finnish athlete 22039 in she.
• 1:14:11
  Won. She won Seville, so I think she
• 1:14:14
  don't yeah, she won Seville after doing world cross or
• 1:14:17
  something like that. Who?
• 1:14:17
  Wants a bill? You won, Lisa Venyo.
• 1:14:20
  All right, OK. And so Annette Netesh Tirasu in
• 1:14:26
  has a PB of 22048 to slower than Vinyo and then Magdalene Masai
• 1:14:32
  who has the quickest PB of 21858.
• 1:14:35
  I feel like Vinyo could be the the woman to be if she's able to
• 1:14:41
  recover from the recent headed latest marathon.
• 1:14:47
  So she'd done Valencia in the December, and then she'd done
• 1:14:50
  Seville in the following February. 2/22/20.
• 1:14:57
  She also, prior to Valencia, she'd done the Tokyo Marathon in
• 1:15:01
  September, ran 228th. After Tokyo, she ran the Finnish
• 1:15:05
  Marathon Championships, 223 into Valencia in December, 220 into
• 1:15:11
  Seville in February, 220 into Paris in April.
• 1:15:19
  It's crazy that like she's what has Izzy around 2:23, like she
• 1:15:27
  puts 3 minutes into Izzy and Izzy is very, very good.
• 1:15:32
  Might have to to speak to the marketing guys at Nomeo because
• 1:15:36
  if this girl isn't an advert for Nomeo being a recovery tool then
• 1:15:42
  I don't know what it is because she she does have the broccoli
• 1:15:45
  emoji and her bio. Will you be getting up to take
• 1:15:49
  yours in the morning, Ryan? Surely off the.
• 1:15:51
  Best start to think, best start. So yeah, at least we've got some
• 1:15:56
  results this weekend to take us through to Boston the weekend
• 1:16:00
  after, and it's the weekend after is actually Australian
• 1:16:03
  Nationals too. It's all happening.
• 1:16:07
  Well, yeah, just in the men's field for Paris.
• 1:16:09
  We've got Victor Kiplangat, 20509 guy.
• 1:16:14
  Is it kindy Attenau, Yemen Crippa from Italy, 20606 guy is
• 1:16:20
  1 to 1 to watch, surely. Hilary Kipkowicz, 204 guy and
• 1:16:27
  that is it. Matthias Kibers, Where's he
• 1:16:30
  from? Sounds familiar.
• 1:16:33
  Named 206 Guy as well. So I guess my take away of these
• 1:16:38
  fields is the like Paris Marathon Gold Label event feel
• 1:16:42
  feels like there's some, I mean, we're obviously running into
• 1:16:46
  peak marathon season for like the 2 two sides of it Field
• 1:16:51
  seems a bit watered down for a gold Label event.
• 1:16:53
  Was that did you guys think similar?
• 1:16:57
  I'm surprised that they even got Crippa but surely London?
• 1:17:01
  But London and Boston make they take majority.
• 1:17:06
  Don't they like those fields are absolutely stacked and they've
• 1:17:09
  gutted them and then the likes of this field and then like
• 1:17:12
  Rotterdam, pretty sure the world record was run in Rotterdam back
• 1:17:15
  in the day. But it's not boasting the
• 1:17:17
  strongest field either. This is who I think is running
• 1:17:20
  in the men's race. You've got Barani Legesi, who we
• 1:17:23
  know is 2O2 guy Hammernot Allu, who I'm not familiar with, two O
• 1:17:28
  3. Guy Bashir Abdi, who we are
• 1:17:31
  familiar with, two O 3, Eric Sang 204 and Kenneth Kick Kamoy
• 1:17:35
  204. So a stronger field, but as you
• 1:17:39
  would expect for the likes of Rotterdam, which is a
• 1:17:41
  notoriously very fast marathon, and other women's side, Shitai
• 1:17:44
  Isheti 220 and yeah 2, two other three other Ethiopian or Kenyan
• 1:17:54
  ladies all running in all boasting PBS of between 2:20 and
• 1:17:57
  2:21. So again, not the strongest
• 1:18:01
  field for a gold label event. Rotterdam is where Sussman went
• 1:18:06
  last year with his almost as was it Rotterdam.
• 1:18:10
  I know, it's Amsterdam, wasn't it?
• 1:18:13
  That's where my guy horses. Who's the lad who got the
• 1:18:19
  marathoner who got killed? The Kenyan world record holder.
• 1:18:25
  Kept them Kelvin. That's where he was going to
• 1:18:27
  run, then he got killed. There's I think a video, isn't
• 1:18:31
  there? A YouTube video of De Costello
• 1:18:34
  back when, before he won his, when he was on top of the world,
• 1:18:38
  was he racing Salazar or Carlos Slope Lopez or Lopes, racing a
• 1:18:43
  couple of those guys around the streets of Rotterdam.
• 1:18:45
  There's an old YouTube clip of that.
• 1:18:47
  Very good. I think it finishes inside.
• 1:18:50
  It finishes like in a hall or something if I'm not wrong.
• 1:18:58
  Any any any double trouble from either of you 2 over this long
• 1:19:04
  Easter weekend? Yeah, the Irish weather is a
• 1:19:07
  joke. It's actually pissed me off so
• 1:19:10
  much. It's a daylight savings.
• 1:19:14
  I haven't helped you. Yes.
• 1:19:16
  I know I top a minute. Yeah, it's after coming good in
• 1:19:18
  the last couple of days. Like it's bright now at six when
• 1:19:21
  I'm up, but it's just so wet and windy and it's April.
• 1:19:29
  Like why do we like, why do we choose to live here when you've
• 1:19:34
  got like Spain, like like a short flight away where it's.
• 1:19:38
  Sunny. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:19:42
  Yeah. You don't.
• 1:19:45
  You choose to live in every bloody corner of the world.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah, I don't really have a double trouble.
• 1:19:57
  I'm all double troubled out. What about you, Ryan?
• 1:20:00
  You said you've been sitting on a couple.
• 1:20:03
  No, I'll give you 1 the store gift the from the handicap
• 1:20:09
  fiddling point of view, I don't get it.
• 1:20:11
  Like, I know it's probably hard for the organizers to protect
• 1:20:15
  the integrity of it, but the fact that the name of the game
• 1:20:20
  for people is almost to fiddle their handicaps as like as
• 1:20:26
  brutally as they can or to just it's like as close to cheating
• 1:20:31
  as you can get to cheating by giving yourself a mark.
• 1:20:34
  Like I don't understand it. No like.
• 1:20:37
  They they look up the results like the results have to be
• 1:20:42
  certified. So basically you have to go hide
• 1:20:44
  in for a couple of years and not people run a result.
• 1:20:48
  They can still turn off and deliberately run shifts.
• 1:20:54
  But you have to keep doing that is Owen's point.
• 1:20:56
  And imagine if the if because then you go on like a bit of a
• 1:20:59
  pro circuit and if you constantly do that, you make no
• 1:21:01
  money. Yeah.
• 1:21:04
  But you have to be committed to this to really fuck it up.
• 1:21:07
  Don't try and stole's been going from was it 1800 and something.
• 1:21:13
  It's so old. Don't.
• 1:21:14
  Yeah, Ryan's threatening to shit on it.
• 1:21:16
  Come on mate. No, not store itself, just the
• 1:21:20
  the fiddlers. What are we talking about now?
• 1:21:26
  Always be a double trouble. But yes, there is a bit of a
• 1:21:32
  disincentive there with these sorts of races, isn't there to
• 1:21:35
  not run your best, which is why I think it has a limited place
• 1:21:39
  unfortunately, those handicapping races.
• 1:21:41
  But I guess what I would say in the opposite to that.
• 1:21:45
  So for little athletics in cross country season, the way it used
• 1:21:49
  to work here, and I don't know if it still does, I hope it
• 1:21:52
  does, but you would go to a different course every week or
• 1:21:57
  every second week and it was a three kilometer run.
• 1:22:01
  And you would, you would do a scratch race and then you would
• 1:22:04
  get a handicap based on that. And then everyone would go off
• 1:22:06
  their handicap and you would run those handicaps and then you
• 1:22:09
  would get a reset handicap race halfway through the season.
• 1:22:12
  And they're constant, constantly tinkered with your handicaps.
• 1:22:16
  But what it meant was different kids.
• 1:22:18
  It wasn't the same kid winning your 3K cross country every
• 1:22:21
  Saturday. It was different kids.
• 1:22:23
  And you would just learn to. And you would constantly, even
• 1:22:25
  if you're the back marker would constantly be pushing because
• 1:22:28
  you're trying to catch people in front of you.
• 1:22:30
  And it was a lot of fun. So I, you would then every six
• 1:22:35
  months or something have your championship or whatever you
• 1:22:38
  would call it, where you would race and for one, 2-3 across the
• 1:22:41
  line would get a prize. But otherwise, every other week
• 1:22:44
  you would the one 2-3 would often be someone different
• 1:22:48
  because if you kept winning, naturally you just got
• 1:22:49
  handicapped out of it. But that was a fun way of using
• 1:22:54
  a handicap and perhaps where where it could work well, albeit
• 1:22:59
  that, like you say, it gets a bit when you put bedding around
• 1:23:02
  us and those sorts of things you can get manipulated.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah, it's a. It's a good way for people have
• 1:23:10
  different abilities to be in the same race and be competitive
• 1:23:12
  against each other. But yeah, the point being, it's
• 1:23:14
  hard to police. It could be us for the episode.
• 1:23:20
  Are we over and out? Yeah, I think so, boys.
• 1:23:25
  Nice. Delivered.
• 1:23:28
  Last bit of Easter. Yeah, chance to eat.
• 1:23:33
  Actually I'm starting doing speed and sort of these speed
• 1:23:36
  sessions on a Monday. More stuff.
• 1:23:39
  So you're in the neuromuscular stuff.
• 1:23:41
  Yeah, we'll chat about that in a bit.
• 1:23:45
  Shit, watch out. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:47
  Watch out. I'm going to be dropping some
• 1:23:49
  72nd 400. All right then, speak to you
• 1:23:54
  soon. Go on, boys, Good.
• 1:23:56
  Luck. Hey lads.
• 1:23:57
  Yeah.