Latest / INSIGHT TODAY / Top German official WARNS Putin is attacking NATO
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Welcome back. Tonight, we hear from a top NATO official
- 0:07Speaker 1: about the alliance's relationship with the United States, its plan
- 0:11Speaker 1: to counter Russia, and the Iran conflict. Here is Brett
- 0:15Speaker 1: Baer's conversation with German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius.
- 0:21Speaker 2: We're in year five of the Russian war in Ukraine.
- 0:24Speaker 2: The United States stands ready, willing, and able to help
- 0:29Speaker 2: bring peace in that conflict. We stand in complete solidarity
- 0:32Speaker 2: with Germany and Russia. all of our allies. We remain
- 0:36Speaker 2: committed to NATO's collective defense. But we also are pushing
- 0:40Speaker 2: our allies here in Brussels to increase their capabilities to
- 0:44Speaker 2: deter these types of threats. The U.S.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Ambassador to NATO there joining us now is German Defense
- 0:49Speaker 3: Minister Boris Pistorius. Thank you so much for being here.
- 0:52Speaker 4: It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me.
- 0:54Speaker 3: You met with our Secretary of War Pete Hegseth at
- 0:56Speaker 3: the Pentagon. You're heading to Texas to receive the first
- 0:58Speaker 3: of the F-35s that your country has purchased.
- 1:02Speaker 4: Yes, indeed. And it is a For that, it's a
- 1:04Speaker 4: very fruitful trip for me here to the United States.
- 1:07Speaker 4: I'm very happy to be here again. And my discussions
- 1:10Speaker 4: with Pete were very fruitful and very We talked about
- 1:14Speaker 4: our defense industrial cooperation, signed a statement of intention for that,
- 1:19Speaker 4: because it's crucial for NATO allies in Europe and abroad
- 1:23Speaker 4: to increase our production capacities on both sides to be
- 1:27Speaker 4: more able to procure what is necessary to achieve deterrence
- 1:31Speaker 4: and defense in Europe and beyond.
- 1:33Speaker 3: From your perspective, the unique perspective, because it's happening in
- 1:36Speaker 3: your backyard, how do you see the situation in Ukraine?
- 1:40Speaker 4: It's critical on the one side when it comes to
- 1:43Speaker 4: the attacks of Putin's armed forces on civilian infrastructure and
- 1:48Speaker 4: energy infrastructure every night and more and more every day.
- 1:51Speaker 4: And at the same time, the theater at the front
- 1:55Speaker 4: line is like frozen, like one kilometer in that direction
- 1:59Speaker 4: and one back. But at the same time, Russia has
- 2:02Speaker 4: casualties of about 1,100 a day, which is really brutal.
- 2:08Speaker 4: But Putin doesn't care at all about that.
- 2:11Speaker 3: You have seen Russia act in provocative ways in recent
- 2:16Speaker 3: days and weeks. You had NATO jets shoot down a
- 2:19Speaker 3: drone in Lithuanian airspace. Your country said Russia was behind
- 2:23Speaker 3: this airport drone attack. Russia hit a passenger train on
- 2:26Speaker 3: Ukraine's border with Poland, just missing a diplomatic train. Our
- 2:29Speaker 3: own former CIA director, David Petraeus, narrowly escaped. How do
- 2:34Speaker 3: you read that? Is that an attack on NATO?
- 2:37Speaker 4: It's an attack on NATO, not only an attack on
- 2:40Speaker 4: Germany or the Baltics or Poland or whatever. It is
- 2:43Speaker 4: an attack on NATO because what he wants to achieve is.
- 2:49Speaker 4: Destroying our unity in NATO, pushing out of Europe the
- 2:52Speaker 4: American troops, and achieving that the NATO and European countries
- 2:57Speaker 4: divide themselves, or getting frozen by fear. The more he
- 3:02Speaker 4: gets under pressure by sanctions and what happens on the battlefield,
- 3:06Speaker 4: the more he becomes aggressive and tries to distract our
- 3:10Speaker 4: attention from Ukraine, from our support for Ukraine, which is crucial.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Is it working?
- 3:17Speaker 4: Of course, there are some people in Germany and in
- 3:20Speaker 4: Europe who get more afraid of getting pulled and sucked
- 3:22Speaker 4: into that war. But still, it is still a huge
- 3:26Speaker 4: majority supporting our support for Ukraine, which is necessary, especially
- 3:31Speaker 4: when it comes to air defense and other issues.
- 3:34Speaker 3: You mentioned the loss of life, the casualties on the
- 3:38Speaker 3: battlefield for Russia. It's obviously being squeezed economically. Is Russia losing?
- 3:45Speaker 4: At least looting this war is closer than ever before,
- 3:50Speaker 4: I guess. But you never know what's happening in Russia.
- 3:53Speaker 4: Russia is a very specific country, a very specific government,
- 3:58Speaker 4: and a very specific president. I don't know what's going
- 4:01Speaker 4: to happen in the month to come, but everything is possible.
- 4:04Speaker 3: One of the things that's changed is the U.S. force posture,
- 4:07Speaker 3: the president announcing this withdrawal of some troops from Germany, 5,000
- 4:12Speaker 3: troops in the next 6 to 12 months. That doesn't
- 4:15Speaker 3: sit well in your country, right?
- 4:17Speaker 4: Well, we are not that surprised. I always knew that
- 4:21Speaker 4: the attention of the United States will shift a little
- 4:24Speaker 4: bit more or much more to the Indo-Pacific, which we
- 4:27Speaker 4: understand and which we appreciate because it's for our security
- 4:31Speaker 4: and the freedom of navigation too. Withdrawing one thing means
- 4:35Speaker 4: we need the time and the production capacities either in
- 4:38Speaker 4: Europe or in the United States to fulfill, to replace
- 4:42Speaker 4: what has been withdrawn.
- 4:44Speaker 3: How do you see the situation with Iran? And where
- 4:48Speaker 3: do you think it's going?
- 4:50Speaker 4: Well, this is really something about the crystal ball. I
- 4:56Speaker 4: don't know. The Iranians are very, seems to be very
- 5:00Speaker 4: strong and very, very good in defense.
- 5:04Speaker 5: And still, we do.
- 5:05Speaker 4: Have an escalation around that in the Red Sea and
- 5:08Speaker 4: in the trade of Hormuz. The situation is unfortunately not
- 5:12Speaker 4: becoming more safe. And at the same time, we see
- 5:16Speaker 4: all the consequences for our oil economy. So we need
- 5:20Speaker 4: a solution, but nobody really knows, at least I do
- 5:22Speaker 4: and I don't, how this solution can look like.
- 5:26Speaker 3: Is there going to be an oil and gas problem
- 5:27Speaker 3: in Europe in coming months?
- 5:29Speaker 4: Well, of course, we do see that at the gas stations.
- 5:32Speaker 4: The prices are increasing incredibly.
- 5:34Speaker 5: We are approaching a € 2. 50 or more for gas. This
- 5:40Speaker 5: is incredible and really a challenge for the working people
- 5:43Speaker 5: in Germany as well as in the United States.
- 5:46Speaker 3: There was a time when European leaders worried that President
- 5:49Speaker 3: Trump was going to pull out of NATO. Do you
- 5:51Speaker 3: worry about that anymore?
- 5:52Speaker 4: No, because things have changed a lot. I mean, there
- 5:55Speaker 4: was a time in which really Europeans did too little
- 5:58Speaker 4: for their own conventional deterrence and defense.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Money-wise and support?
- 6:03Speaker 4: Money-wise and all of that. And we woke up now.
- 6:07Speaker 4: We woke up and we realized that we need.
- 6:10Speaker 2: To do more.
- 6:11Speaker 3: Do you credit President Trump for some of that?
- 6:13Speaker 2: Well, of course.
- 6:14Speaker 4: The Hague summit was crucial, but not only because of
- 6:17Speaker 4: Donald Trump, because of your president, because we acknowledged our
- 6:21Speaker 4: own responsibility for our own conventional deterrence and defense, and
- 6:25Speaker 4: we rely, of course, very much on the nuclear deterrence
- 6:29Speaker 4: the United States are providing.
- 6:30Speaker 3: Last thing. The AI threat. President Xi is coming here
- 6:35Speaker 3: next week. There's a lot of thought about, talks about
- 6:39Speaker 3: artificial intelligence. How concerned is Germany about that?
- 6:44Speaker 4: In the same way like the Americans. I mean, this
- 6:47Speaker 4: is a technology which can really be of very much
- 6:51Speaker 4: benefit for all of us, and at the same time,
- 6:54Speaker 4: it can be a horrible threat for everybody of us,
- 6:57Speaker 4: every one of us. So, therefore, we need to find
- 6:59Speaker 4: solutions with everybody, like President Xi and the United States
- 7:03Speaker 4: and other countries and Europe, to regulate that in a
- 7:08Speaker 4: very reasonable and responsible manner, and at the same time,
- 7:11Speaker 4: not limiting too much, because we need that technology, I think,
- 7:15Speaker 4: very much in the future.
- 7:17Speaker 3: It's a dangerous world.
- 7:18Speaker 4: It's a dangerous world. And therefore, I repeat, trust and
- 7:23Speaker 4: reliability are the currency which really counts.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Mr.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Minister, we appreciate your time.
- 7:28Speaker 4: Thank you very much.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Thank you.