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- 0:23Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Friends and neighbors. As you can
- 0:26Speaker 1: tell from the background music playing gently behind us, we
- 0:32Speaker 1: are Texas bound in today's episode. I'm bed loping along
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- 0:41Speaker 1: I'm no um and we're riding on the range today.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We are We're riding around the great American West points
- 0:51Speaker 1: north and south. We are joined in spirit with our
- 0:55Speaker 1: super producer, Casey Pegram, who is still away in France. Man,
- 1:01Speaker 1: I bet he's living it up, you know. And I
- 1:04Speaker 1: know I know he is, or at least doing Casey's
- 1:06Speaker 1: version of living it up, because I was texting with
- 1:07Speaker 1: him the other day and I was like, Man, you're
- 1:09Speaker 1: having a blast. He goes, yeah, I man, I just
- 1:11Speaker 1: saw a ten hour film that does sound like him. Yeah,
- 1:14Speaker 1: when I was what I was talking to him. Uh,
- 1:18Speaker 1: I always have to check to see if this is
- 1:21Speaker 1: going to be the trip where he decides to stay
- 1:23Speaker 1: in France. So do us a favor right to him,
- 1:26Speaker 1: Let him know that he has to come back at
- 1:29Speaker 1: some voy because it's just not the same without him. Yeah.
- 1:31Speaker 1: It's kind of like when a band gets back together
- 1:33Speaker 1: but they have a different lead singer. Have you ever
- 1:36Speaker 1: been to a concert like that, No, but I do remember.
- 1:39Speaker 1: The thing that always comes to mind is when um
- 1:41Speaker 1: Ozzy left Black Sabbath and was replaced by Ronnie James Dio.
- 1:47Speaker 1: That just seemed that seemed like heresy, which I guess
- 1:50Speaker 1: is in character for a band called Black Sabbath. Sure,
- 1:53Speaker 1: and that's a good point. But before we go too
- 1:57Speaker 1: far off the rails of this, I gotta say it's
- 2:01Speaker 1: no Dan Ondo nor On Osborne to say that they
- 2:06Speaker 1: they're just not comparable. I mean, d o has rocked
- 2:09Speaker 1: for a long long time, but now it's time for
- 2:11Speaker 1: him to pass the torch back to Ozzie. And both
- 2:14Speaker 1: both of these performers are legends. And speaking of fantastic segues,
- 2:20Speaker 1: today's episode is about alleged we got there, you did
- 2:23Speaker 1: it man, alleg gent allegedly, allegedly, allegedly a leggy legend.
- 2:33Speaker 1: My girlfriend this morning called me the the King of
- 2:36Speaker 1: dad jokes. She did not mean it as a compliment.
- 2:39Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong with doing dad. It's
- 2:42Speaker 1: a niche, man, you know, one which uh we squarely occupy,
- 2:46Speaker 1: and I'm proud of it. Most I think most people
- 2:49Speaker 1: make dad jokes. In fact, we're unfairly impinging upon dad's
- 2:54Speaker 1: I agree, Dad bod dad jokes. It's like a term
- 2:58Speaker 1: of abuse. It's a very weird anti ad thing that
- 3:01Speaker 1: goes on. You know what, though, being a dad is
- 3:03Speaker 1: the only thing that got us a producer in the
- 3:04Speaker 1: studio today, because today we are joined with our guest
- 3:07Speaker 1: super producer Eden Brown. Okay, I see where you're going
- 3:14Speaker 1: with that, and thank you eating for saving the show.
- 3:17Speaker 1: So there's this alleged uh hero of today's story. Yes,
- 3:21Speaker 1: this allegedly leggy legend better known as Antonio Lopez de
- 3:28Speaker 1: Santa on A. That is a mouthful allegedly leggy legend. Man,
- 3:34Speaker 1: we could do we could do another leg of that,
- 3:36Speaker 1: I think big time. So this guy Santa Anna. You
- 3:40Speaker 1: may have heard of him before. He was born on
- 3:42Speaker 1: February one, seventeen ninety four, and he was a tremendously
- 3:49Speaker 1: influential politician. In general, we wouldn't call him a war lord,
- 3:56Speaker 1: but he knew his way around a battlefield. Over the
- 3:58Speaker 1: course of his life, he would uh ruled Mexico eleven
- 4:02Speaker 1: different times. Yeah, world class legoomaniac. Yeah, he's gonna keep
- 4:07Speaker 1: this rolling. Sure we could uh. He was often described
- 4:12Speaker 1: as the Napoleon of the West by himself, also a
- 4:15Speaker 1: world class manufacturer of lore pertaining to his favorite guy,
- 4:20Speaker 1: General Santa Ana himself. He is probably most famous, at
- 4:24Speaker 1: least in the United States today for his activity during
- 4:28Speaker 1: the Texas Revolution from eighteen thirty five to eighteen thirty six,
- 4:32Speaker 1: notorious sacker of the Alamo. Right, there were some Texan
- 4:37Speaker 1: rebels because as we know, Texas was ruled by Mexico,
- 4:42Speaker 1: and Texas didn't want to do that anymore. They wanted
- 4:45Speaker 1: there to be their own thing, and so, uh, this
- 4:48Speaker 1: a very small group of Texan rebels posted up at
- 4:53Speaker 1: the Alamo, which was an old Franciscan like monastery I believe,
- 4:57Speaker 1: and they were able to fend off Santa Anna and
- 5:00Speaker 1: his armies for something like thirteen days, I want to say, right,
- 5:04Speaker 1: and they earned this defense with blood. There were about
- 5:08Speaker 1: a hundred Texans that were garrisoned at the Alamo, and
- 5:11Speaker 1: the Texas force grew a little bit with the reinforcements
- 5:16Speaker 1: led by Commanders James Bowie and William Travis. But wasn't
- 5:22Speaker 1: Daniel Boone there too? Yeah, there were there were a
- 5:24Speaker 1: lot of It was like a wou Tang clan Posse track.
- 5:28Speaker 1: But it was, you know, a war, and apparently we're
- 5:31Speaker 1: supposed to remember it, and by gosh, we do, right, right,
- 5:34Speaker 1: And that's why you'll hear the battle cry remember Goliad
- 5:40Speaker 1: Remember the Alamo on I think it was first recorded
- 5:44Speaker 1: on the twenty one April in eighteen thirty six. During
- 5:48Speaker 1: the Battle of the Alamo, Santa Anna's forces killed a
- 5:51Speaker 1: hundred and eighty nine Texans and then later executed more
- 5:56Speaker 1: than three prisoners. Not popular fellow in in Texas history,
- 6:02Speaker 1: as we will come to discover right in this episode,
- 6:05Speaker 1: right right, not a popular fellow, but he got stuff done.
- 6:09Speaker 1: It's true. He is sort of remembered similarly to Napoleon
- 6:13Speaker 1: in that ultimately he ended up losing a lot of
- 6:16Speaker 1: the stuff that he gained through this kind of thirst
- 6:21Speaker 1: for conquest. Right yeah, And there's an interesting part about that.
- 6:27Speaker 1: It will come into play later. I'll remember to bring
- 6:29Speaker 1: it up before we in the episode. So before we
- 6:33Speaker 1: get to one of my favorite wars of this episode, well,
- 6:37Speaker 1: why don't you tell us a little bit about the
- 6:39Speaker 1: events that occurred after the album, which is briefly, all
- 6:42Speaker 1: those those Alamo centric atrocities you mentioned probably really got
- 6:46Speaker 1: the Texan rebels fired up, and they ultimately won their
- 6:50Speaker 1: independence when they defeated Santa Anna's forces during the Battle
- 6:54Speaker 1: of Sanya Sinto on April one, eighteen thirty six. Santa
- 6:58Speaker 1: Anna and his forces were defeated, and he signed a
- 7:01Speaker 1: treaty to give Texas their independence from Mexico. Right and again.
- 7:07Speaker 1: That is where the famous the famous call to arms
- 7:11Speaker 1: or the famous rallying cry remember the Alamo originates. Santa
- 7:15Speaker 1: Anna was held captive in Texas and uh he eventually
- 7:22Speaker 1: managed to return to Mexico in eighteen thirty seven after
- 7:26Speaker 1: he met with US President Andrew Jackson. So he lived
- 7:31Speaker 1: in exile. He traveled back to Mexico a defeated man,
- 7:34Speaker 1: and he needed a winnel. He needed something to change
- 7:38Speaker 1: the winds of fortune. In eighteen thirty eight, he found
- 7:43Speaker 1: a chance. But it was it was a very strange thing.
- 7:46Speaker 1: It's one of my is one of my favorite names
- 7:48Speaker 1: in today's show. He became involved in something called the
- 7:52Speaker 1: Pastry War. That's right after he sort of was able
- 7:56Speaker 1: to more or less free himself from exile, he posted
- 8:00Speaker 1: up in a pretty cushy hacienda in Vera Cruz, where
- 8:04Speaker 1: he more or less retired and he was kind of
- 8:07Speaker 1: just kicking it. They're doing his thing, and then this
- 8:09Speaker 1: thing called the pastry war Uh flared up. What's the
- 8:12Speaker 1: pastry war band? That sounds delicious. I'm delayed, you asked.
- 8:16Speaker 1: So there's another geo political thing going on here. France
- 8:20Speaker 1: is super unhappy with the Mexican government at this time
- 8:24Speaker 1: because they have unpaid debts that they had incurred during
- 8:27Speaker 1: the Texas Revolution of eighteen thirty six. And these were
- 8:31Speaker 1: quite significant debts. We're talking about six hundred thousand pasos.
- 8:37Speaker 1: So when a baker living near Mexico City, a little
- 8:41Speaker 1: bit outside of it, when he a French baker, a
- 8:44Speaker 1: French baker, yes, when he claims that the Mexican army
- 8:48Speaker 1: ransacked his bakery and he demands compensation to the tune
- 8:52Speaker 1: of what was it, sixty thousand pasos sixty that's right,
- 8:56Speaker 1: which was an exorbitant inflation of what the bakery was
- 8:59Speaker 1: valued at, which is more in line with like a
- 9:00Speaker 1: thousand pasos Yeah, actually a little bit less right. And
- 9:05Speaker 1: the chef whose name today we know him only as
- 9:08Speaker 1: a Remontel, he found some very sympathetic ears in the
- 9:14Speaker 1: French government because he took the case directly to the
- 9:18Speaker 1: king of the time, Louis Philippe, and Louis said, they
- 9:23Speaker 1: gave this ultimatum with this pretext for for the conflict,
- 9:28Speaker 1: for the pastry war. They gave this ultimatum to Mexico
- 9:31Speaker 1: and they said, all right, give us six hundred thousand
- 9:35Speaker 1: pasos that includes the sixty thousand for this guy's pastry shop.
- 9:41Speaker 1: The Mexican Congress said their version of heck noo, are
- 9:44Speaker 1: you crazy? And so in the spring of the French
- 9:48Speaker 1: navy began a blockade of seaports along the Gulf of Mexico,
- 9:53Speaker 1: all over one French bakery. It must have been a
- 9:56Speaker 1: great bakery, maybe, Yeah, I guess it was just kind
- 9:58Speaker 1: of like the straw that the French ponies back. There
- 10:03Speaker 1: was the excuse that they used. Yeah, it was the uh,
- 10:07Speaker 1: the string that dropped the guillotine exactly. It's very, very,
- 10:10Speaker 1: very interesting the way these kind of powder kegs can
- 10:13Speaker 1: be set off by a single event, like the assassination
- 10:15Speaker 1: of a single Archduke Franz Ferdinand, setting off all of
- 10:20Speaker 1: the events that with multiple players that that let you
- 10:23Speaker 1: know that world World War One that we're already seething. Yeah,
- 10:25Speaker 1: but that's the thing. It's so interesting throughout history you
- 10:27Speaker 1: see these little kind of flashpoint moments that taken on
- 10:30Speaker 1: their own, you wouldn't think would be that big a deal,
- 10:33Speaker 1: but they can set off this chain reaction that becomes
- 10:36Speaker 1: quite a kerfuffle. Right, And just like the case with
- 10:40Speaker 1: World War One and transferred and in there's the question
- 10:43Speaker 1: of whether it had to be these specific flashpoint events
- 10:48Speaker 1: or would it have inevitably been something else. Because France
- 10:51Speaker 1: was ready to go, it takes a while to get
- 10:54Speaker 1: ships across the Atlantic. They were steamed about that cash,
- 10:58Speaker 1: you know, because they're like, hey, we helped you out
- 11:01Speaker 1: and you failed, ultimately in your endeavor um to uh,
- 11:06Speaker 1: you know, quash these rebels, uh, and now pay up.
- 11:11Speaker 1: And the US, by the way, also piled on into Mexico.
- 11:15Speaker 1: They sent a schooner to assist in the blockade. This
- 11:18Speaker 1: stalemate drags on and on until November and the French
- 11:24Speaker 1: warships start bombarding island fortresses. Mexico officially declares war on France,
- 11:32Speaker 1: and within days French marines are raiding the city and
- 11:36Speaker 1: they captured nearly the entire Mexican navy. Desperate to get
- 11:42Speaker 1: these monsters out of their fair city and out of
- 11:45Speaker 1: their country, Mexico turned to Santa Anna. There's a great
- 11:51Speaker 1: article on history dot com that goes through some of
- 11:54Speaker 1: the chronology of this and they refer to Antonio Lopez
- 11:58Speaker 1: de Santa Anna as being a grizzled warrior. I love
- 12:02Speaker 1: that because at this point, you know, he's had his
- 12:04Speaker 1: his day, his heyday. He's already ruled like what four
- 12:07Speaker 1: times at this point, I don't know, I lose track.
- 12:10Speaker 1: He keeps going into retirement, coming out of retirement, going back,
- 12:14Speaker 1: they keep pulling him back in like in like the
- 12:17Speaker 1: Godfather movies or whatever. And so like me at a buffet,
- 12:20Speaker 1: of course, the buffet you want to like get your
- 12:23Speaker 1: fill ben people. I don't think we as a species
- 12:26Speaker 1: are emotionally equipped to handle buffets. He's gotta keep going
- 12:29Speaker 1: back to the trough, I mean, otherwise it's a it's
- 12:32Speaker 1: a it's a sunken cost kind of situation. Yeah. But
- 12:35Speaker 1: so back to this Greek descripture by Christopher Clyde right
- 12:37Speaker 1: there right in there for History, Yeah, Santa Anna was
- 12:40Speaker 1: was quite a big fan of Santa Anna and fancied
- 12:44Speaker 1: himself sort of a ruler of the people. So he
- 12:46Speaker 1: was all too ready to jump back into the fray,
- 12:50Speaker 1: and um, you know, he really had a thirst for
- 12:53Speaker 1: like being the guy that was gonna hop back in
- 12:55Speaker 1: and save Mexico's but and people were into it too,
- 13:00Speaker 1: of course, so he raises his own army. He comes
- 13:03Speaker 1: out and says something along the lines of I am
- 13:05Speaker 1: Santa and helped me defend the city from these French
- 13:09Speaker 1: savage exactly, And they're all about it. So they're able
- 13:13Speaker 1: to drive Santa Ana's army that he forms are able
- 13:15Speaker 1: to drive French forces away from the city and at
- 13:18Speaker 1: least back to their ships. And picture this. This is
- 13:22Speaker 1: one of those flashpoint moments in history. Santa Anna is
- 13:26Speaker 1: on horseback, he's literally chasing these guys out of town
- 13:31Speaker 1: when a cannon fires and the shot from the cannon
- 13:37Speaker 1: knocks his horse out from under him and gets him
- 13:39Speaker 1: in the leg. It's like what they call it grape shot, yeah,
- 13:43Speaker 1: which is kind of like when you think of buckshot
- 13:46Speaker 1: buckshot shotgun shells loaded with like these tiny little ball bearings.
- 13:50Speaker 1: I guess that just kind of like spray everywhere, right,
- 13:54Speaker 1: but probably larger if it's coming from a cannon. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 13:57Speaker 1: it's a massive, small metal. I mean buckshots a great description.
- 14:01Speaker 1: It's uh not not a good pleasant way to go
- 14:04Speaker 1: and also often bound in canvas. Oh so yeah, it's
- 14:10Speaker 1: it's ugly. It would almost be like a pipe bomb
- 14:12Speaker 1: going off, you know, that's just spraying shrapnel everywhere. And
- 14:16Speaker 1: it also still the timing of it stinks because he
- 14:19Speaker 1: pretty much won, and there's that parting shot sort of
- 14:23Speaker 1: like in the Lord of the Rings where spoiler alert,
- 14:26Speaker 1: Gandalf manages to stop the bow rog and then at
- 14:30Speaker 1: the very end that that crazy lava whip grabs him,
- 14:35Speaker 1: pulls him down into the abyss. There you go. Gandalf,
- 14:38Speaker 1: the Santa Anna of Lord of the Rings also very
- 14:41Speaker 1: into himself, now that I think about it, it's true,
- 14:43Speaker 1: but you know, with good reason. He earned it. So
- 14:45Speaker 1: what happens? What happens next? They got him out of there, right, yeah,
- 14:48Speaker 1: they got him out. But you know, we said his
- 14:52Speaker 1: leg was wounded, but how how wounded? Was it? Very?
- 14:56Speaker 1: As it turns out, had they couldn't save the leg,
- 15:02Speaker 1: but could not save the leg ben um, it had
- 15:04Speaker 1: to come off, yep. So he had his leg removed
- 15:09Speaker 1: and he had a prosthetic built, but he was still
- 15:13Speaker 1: he was still in the game. And this is this
- 15:18Speaker 1: is one of the craziest parts of this story. This
- 15:20Speaker 1: isn't the craziest craziest part, but this is a strange one.
- 15:24Speaker 1: So picture this. He has he has driven the French
- 15:29Speaker 1: out of town, but he has not yet won the war.
- 15:33Speaker 1: He's one leg down. He has a prosthetic and he
- 15:35Speaker 1: has his amputated leg which has been with him through
- 15:38Speaker 1: thick and thin. Real leg when it was connected to
- 15:41Speaker 1: his body the o g leg got it, and pay
- 15:44Speaker 1: attention to that leg because that's gonna come into play later.
- 15:48Speaker 1: So right now we have two legs. One is prosthetic,
- 15:51Speaker 1: one is his old original leg not attached to him.
- 15:55Speaker 1: What what happens with the pastry war? Because he drives
- 15:58Speaker 1: Frands out, but the confant isn't resolved and they I
- 16:01Speaker 1: think they need some help from British diplomats. Yeah, they
- 16:04Speaker 1: help out and broker an agreement in which Mexican government
- 16:09Speaker 1: has to pay that six hundred thousand pay so demand
- 16:14Speaker 1: that the French insisted upon, including the cost of the
- 16:18Speaker 1: pastry shop in question. Because that guy is still That's
- 16:22Speaker 1: the thing that gets me. That guy still lives there.
- 16:24Speaker 1: He still lives there. Yeah, I don't know, it seems
- 16:26Speaker 1: like it would be a stretch, but um, the French
- 16:29Speaker 1: forces take off and everything for the most part goes
- 16:31Speaker 1: back to normal. Um, but these guys are going to
- 16:34Speaker 1: come to heads again later down the line, like I
- 16:37Speaker 1: think in the mid eighteen hundreds, there's another conflict. But
- 16:40Speaker 1: that's that's a story for another day. Santa Anna has
- 16:44Speaker 1: his o g leg buried at his hacienda in Vera Cruz.
- 16:49Speaker 1: But there's more, Yes, there absolutely is. So now he's
- 16:53Speaker 1: a war hero again, and he is. You know, when
- 16:58Speaker 1: people first have a kid, every conversation inevitably turns into
- 17:04Speaker 1: something about their baby. The leg he lost in the
- 17:07Speaker 1: Pastry War is like this baby he just had, and
- 17:10Speaker 1: he's constantly reminding everyone in Mexico who will listen, that
- 17:15Speaker 1: he sacrificed his leg. Yeah. Apparently he would hold his
- 17:18Speaker 1: prosthetic leg over his head during military parades, um to
- 17:23Speaker 1: remind people of the sacrifice that he made for his
- 17:26Speaker 1: beloved country. Um. But so he he essentially returns back
- 17:30Speaker 1: to retirement after this Pastry War. He did his duty.
- 17:35Speaker 1: He came back out thought the good fight. Lost a leg. Yeah,
- 17:40Speaker 1: so he would take it slow after this, right, most
- 17:42Speaker 1: people would consider that a warning sign or you know, uh,
- 17:46Speaker 1: a notification from the universe that perhaps your battle days
- 17:50Speaker 1: are done. In eighteen forty two, Santana is once again
- 17:55Speaker 1: the president of Mexico because, as we said, comes in
- 18:00Speaker 1: and out several times. Well. Yeah, according to his autobiography,
- 18:03Speaker 1: sent Anna's autobiography, which is just rife with hyperbole. Uh,
- 18:07Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. It's called the Eagle. Um.
- 18:10Speaker 1: It was only sixty two days after he lost the
- 18:13Speaker 1: leg that General Guadalupe Victoria asked him at the behest
- 18:18Speaker 1: of the government to come back to the capital and
- 18:22Speaker 1: said that there was a revolution brooding and that the
- 18:25Speaker 1: government wanted him to take the current president, Anastasio Busta
- 18:30Speaker 1: Monte's place as a temporary president during this difficult time. Um.
- 18:36Speaker 1: And this quote just really speaks to the megalomania of
- 18:40Speaker 1: this gentleman. How well the people knew me. They knew
- 18:44Speaker 1: I would never desert my principles and would always be
- 18:47Speaker 1: on hand when my country needed me. I was carried
- 18:50Speaker 1: to the capital on a litter like one of those
- 18:54Speaker 1: things with the sticks in the chair, right, is that
- 18:56Speaker 1: what hoquin? Yeah? Exactly, like some sort of like returning Uh,
- 19:00Speaker 1: the hero or something like that. Right carried to the
- 19:02Speaker 1: capital on a litter Although my trip was made with
- 19:05Speaker 1: extreme care, the hardships of the journey and the change
- 19:08Speaker 1: of climate weakened me. However, despite my poor health, poor
- 19:12Speaker 1: guy I assumed the office of president immediately. Yeah, he
- 19:17Speaker 1: assumed the office of president. He also there's there's some
- 19:21Speaker 1: speculation that we have to engage in here, nol. He
- 19:24Speaker 1: also enjoys the enjoys the pop culture status he is
- 19:32Speaker 1: acquiring in Mexico. Now he is not only a lauded general,
- 19:36Speaker 1: he's not only the president. He's also a very much
- 19:41Speaker 1: a celebrity. And so soon after Santa Anna really leans
- 19:47Speaker 1: into this celebrity status. He has his original his physical
- 19:51Speaker 1: leg dug up, just take it, exhumed from his estate,
- 19:56Speaker 1: uh huh, and reburied, but this time raid with full
- 20:01Speaker 1: military honors for a leg. Yeah, just the leg, just
- 20:05Speaker 1: the leg. But it was a really classy event. Noal,
- 20:08Speaker 1: They had they had orations, they had um you know,
- 20:12Speaker 1: honor guards, they had cannons firing, and they had poetry
- 20:17Speaker 1: performed written exclusively for this event. In fact, ridiculous historians.
- 20:21Speaker 1: We have a couple of examples of this man Ben,
- 20:25Speaker 1: Are you gonna do a dramatic reading? Yeah, I think
- 20:27Speaker 1: you are too. All right, I'll play, I'll play you
- 20:30Speaker 1: go first, you play these reindeer games. Here is the
- 20:34Speaker 1: English translation of a poem titled sonnet and we'll just
- 20:39Speaker 1: is it a sonnet or a poem? The name of
- 20:43Speaker 1: this pieces? Sont I like it? Yeah? Such complete triumph.
- 20:48Speaker 1: What victory, admirable Santa Anna, you have attained politics management
- 20:53Speaker 1: all has changed, valiant liberal for your glory, tremble Scottish
- 20:58Speaker 1: right and enter the draws. Consume yourself. We're all you
- 21:01Speaker 1: have lost. Do not dare look upon the illustrious hero.
- 21:05Speaker 1: Be off, We want no memory of you. Come, Holy liberty,
- 21:09Speaker 1: Come and rest from your toils. What do you have
- 21:12Speaker 1: to fear from the tyrants? If the freeman gives his
- 21:15Speaker 1: life for you to God, we have sworn his brothers
- 21:18Speaker 1: that those that have oppressed you, we Mexicans, must wake
- 21:22Speaker 1: war upon him. All right, Ben, you've ticked the poetry
- 21:26Speaker 1: box beautifully. Might I add, I'm gonna give you sort
- 21:29Speaker 1: of a little soliloquy, I guess, kind of just almost
- 21:32Speaker 1: a um oration ade, Yes, exactly, a eulogy to the
- 21:38Speaker 1: leg Why should anyone criticize of a funeral performed for
- 21:42Speaker 1: the foot, arm, or hair of an illustrious general. Passions
- 21:47Speaker 1: always tarnished merit with malevolence, and really do not wish
- 21:50Speaker 1: true merits celebrated. So answer quickly and with confidence. Why
- 21:53Speaker 1: should we not honor merit in the lifeless limb of
- 21:56Speaker 1: a great and heroic causio which was the Spanish word
- 22:00Speaker 1: for a military hero or official. Why should anyone criticize
- 22:05Speaker 1: to make this fitting obloquy to a sacrificed limb, not
- 22:08Speaker 1: to the man, but to what he has given fearlessly
- 22:11Speaker 1: for the fatherland. It would be unjust, ungrateful, foolish, and
- 22:15Speaker 1: disloyal to claim it is not lawful or right that
- 22:18Speaker 1: alone foot have a tomb or mausoleum, that a funeral
- 22:22Speaker 1: is performed. I'm gonna skip to the last line, well
- 22:25Speaker 1: quicker rejectually. Obloquy is public criticism, verbal abuse of saying.
- 22:30Speaker 1: It's ridiculous for people to say anything bad about this
- 22:34Speaker 1: foot man himself. Why would you this? I mean, he's
- 22:37Speaker 1: he's obviously earned it. But I'm I'm gonna skip a
- 22:41Speaker 1: little bit um. The last line is what I think
- 22:43Speaker 1: is really really what shows it up, did Artemisia not
- 22:46Speaker 1: hide the ashes of Mausolus in her breast? Mausolus being
- 22:50Speaker 1: a ruler in the fourth century who basically created the
- 22:54Speaker 1: notion of a mausoleum or a giant or anate tomb
- 22:57Speaker 1: that he had erected for himself. Um, but I shall
- 23:00Speaker 1: continue and believe this the only remedy. Here's where it
- 23:03Speaker 1: gets good. She did her duty. So today Mexico erects
- 23:07Speaker 1: a tomb reaching to the sky, covering with ardent hope,
- 23:11Speaker 1: a jewel of history and giving glory to the foot,
- 23:15Speaker 1: arm or hair. We can go ahead and do the
- 23:19Speaker 1: polite open mic poetry slam finger clap, which is just
- 23:23Speaker 1: snapping your fingers. So yes, it's true. He buried his leg.
- 23:30Speaker 1: It reburied it rather was in a crystal vase. Was
- 23:34Speaker 1: tremendously ornate event, and people were into it. The thing
- 23:45Speaker 1: about being the top dog, however, is that when you're
- 23:49Speaker 1: in this King of the Hills situation, you don't have
- 23:54Speaker 1: a lot of stability in public opinion turned against the press,
- 24:00Speaker 1: people tore down the statues of him. They dug his
- 24:04Speaker 1: leg up again. Yeah, and then let drag it through
- 24:07Speaker 1: the streets, chanting with the death of the Cripple, which
- 24:12Speaker 1: is ugly. What do you what did you do to
- 24:14Speaker 1: to to to earn that kind of public ire. Well
- 24:19Speaker 1: appears that he ruled in a much more dictorial style.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Imagine that, Yeah, the Napoleon of the West. So they
- 24:28Speaker 1: jailed dissidents to suppress opposition. You know, there's not a
- 24:34Speaker 1: free press. Uh. He led some unpopular campaigns. He wasn't
- 24:39Speaker 1: able to control the elections of eighteen forty two, and
- 24:44Speaker 1: a lot of the folks who were elected at that
- 24:47Speaker 1: time were vigorously against the kind of policies he was pursuing.
- 24:53Speaker 1: He also raised taxes. It's always a dicey move if
- 24:57Speaker 1: you're at the levers of power. Se role. Mexican states
- 25:01Speaker 1: just stopped dealing with the central government. They declared themselves independent.
- 25:07Speaker 1: So eventually he tries to flee the country in December
- 25:11Speaker 1: of eighteen forty four, but he is unsuccessful. He is
- 25:15Speaker 1: apprehended near Zico Vera, Cruz, and he is imprisoned. He
- 25:22Speaker 1: is exiled to Cuba. When is this It's January of
- 25:26Speaker 1: eighteen forty five when he's gone. Okay, So I think
- 25:30Speaker 1: what happened was when the tide of public opinion turned
- 25:33Speaker 1: against him. It was basically a full rebellion, and he
- 25:36Speaker 1: did his damnedest to squash this rebellion, but it obviously
- 25:39Speaker 1: did not work out for him and he ended up
- 25:41Speaker 1: being exiled. Correct, Yeah, yeah, okay, But during this time,
- 25:45Speaker 1: there's a quote from his autobiography, Um that I just love.
- 25:50Speaker 1: He says this, speaking of criticism or mockery of his
- 25:56Speaker 1: fake leg, he says, stop, I don't wish to hear
- 25:59Speaker 1: any more, are, Almighty God, a member of my body
- 26:02Speaker 1: lost in the service of my country, dragged from the
- 26:05Speaker 1: funeral urn, broken into bits to be made sport of
- 26:09Speaker 1: in such a barbaric manner. Boy, you're laying it on
- 26:13Speaker 1: thick there. Yeah, that's the benefit of writing from retrospect.
- 26:17Speaker 1: And of course everybody's the main character of their own story, right,
- 26:21Speaker 1: So that's kind of where we lose track of the
- 26:22Speaker 1: real leg. But this is sort of just the beginning
- 26:26Speaker 1: of the story of the fake leg. This is the
- 26:29Speaker 1: that that was the first leg of the episode. This
- 26:31Speaker 1: is the second leg of the episode. Thank you for
- 26:34Speaker 1: bringing it back. Here we are so he would die,
- 26:38Speaker 1: one would imagine in exile in Cuba. However, that is
- 26:41Speaker 1: not what happened to see. The United States declared war
- 26:46Speaker 1: against Mexico in eighteen forty six, and this famous one
- 26:50Speaker 1: legged general is called back to serve his country in
- 26:54Speaker 1: the Mexican American War and just keep pulling him back. Yeah,
- 26:59Speaker 1: and so during the Battle of Sarah Gordo in eighteen
- 27:03Speaker 1: forty seven, another leg related incident occurs. And no, you
- 27:08Speaker 1: wanted to explore this historical event through the use of
- 27:14Speaker 1: a clip and excerpt from a show that you say
- 27:16Speaker 1: is very important and personally close to you, that is
- 27:19Speaker 1: King of the Hill. Yeah. King of the Hill is
- 27:21Speaker 1: my happy place show. I'm really sad that it's not
- 27:24Speaker 1: on any of the streaming services anymore. But I was
- 27:26Speaker 1: able to dig this up from a DVD that I
- 27:28Speaker 1: have of this particular season. The episode is called the
- 27:31Speaker 1: Final shin salt Um and it opens with Peggy Hill
- 27:35Speaker 1: as a substitute teacher because as we know, that's what
- 27:38Speaker 1: Peggy Hill does um of her son Bobby's history class,
- 27:42Speaker 1: Texas History. And they're doing a little play that sums
- 27:46Speaker 1: up this this very event. So you just play it, right, Yeah,
- 27:50Speaker 1: let's do it now. In preparation for our field trip.
- 27:52Speaker 1: Your classmates are going to act out a little known
- 27:54Speaker 1: episode of Mexican American history. The year is eighteen forty seven.
- 28:03Speaker 1: In General Santa Anna, I led the Mexican army at
- 28:06Speaker 1: the Elmo where we defeated Texas. We are at the
- 28:12Speaker 1: Battle of Sarah Gordo eleven years later, and we are hungry. Sir,
- 28:17Speaker 1: I will hold your artificial leg while you eat chicken. Mhmt.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Look out, it's the Illinois Volunteer Infantry up on General.
- 28:33Speaker 1: I stole your fake leg. Oh well, that was beautiful.
- 28:39Speaker 1: That was just inspired. So yeah, I mean, need we
- 28:42Speaker 1: say more? I guess not. So there's a little artistic
- 28:45Speaker 1: license with that particular clip. But the way I've read
- 28:48Speaker 1: it is that Santa Anna knew that the Illinois um
- 28:53Speaker 1: soldiers were approaching, and he hastily retreated, leaving his carriage abandoned,
- 29:01Speaker 1: complete with his half eaten roasted chicken, about eighteen thousand
- 29:05Speaker 1: dollars in gold in gold, and one more thing, his
- 29:10Speaker 1: fake leg. So this prosthetic leg becomes a trophy piece.
- 29:15Speaker 1: People were flocking to county fairs to pay a little
- 29:19Speaker 1: bit of money to get a peek at this relic,
- 29:23Speaker 1: and eventually it fell into the possession of the Illinois
- 29:27Speaker 1: State Military Museum. Yeah, because I guess they were the
- 29:31Speaker 1: ones that the you know, the soldiers from Illinois were
- 29:33Speaker 1: the ones. What what got it? It seems a little
- 29:37Speaker 1: odd though, that it would end up in Illinois, considering
- 29:41Speaker 1: that Texas um had much more of a close connection
- 29:45Speaker 1: with with General Santa Anna and his memorabilia right right,
- 29:49Speaker 1: And in the recent years, even unto the modern day,
- 29:55Speaker 1: this possession of Santa Anna's leg has become controversial. So
- 30:01Speaker 1: in Texas in the modern day, several groups of people
- 30:04Speaker 1: are petitioning Illinois to return the leg, the prosthetic leg
- 30:10Speaker 1: of Santa Ana to Texas. You can read about this
- 30:14Speaker 1: in the Chicago Tribune. You can read about this in
- 30:18Speaker 1: the museum site itself. But it does seem unusual, doesn't
- 30:23Speaker 1: it that it would end up in Illinois, of all places,
- 30:26Speaker 1: simply because the people who originally captured the leg where
- 30:30Speaker 1: themselves from Illinois. It's true, Um, it's actually this. There's
- 30:33Speaker 1: a museum in in Texas called the Sanya Sinto Museum
- 30:36Speaker 1: of History that has tons of Santa Ana memorabilia. Um.
- 30:40Speaker 1: They have like a glove, uh, and they have like
- 30:43Speaker 1: silverware that he left behind during the Battle of Santa
- 30:46Speaker 1: sinto um plates all kinds of things related to this
- 30:50Speaker 1: historical figure. But what they don't have, uh and would
- 30:54Speaker 1: very much like to have, is that fake leg. But
- 30:58Speaker 1: Illinois is not giving it up anytime soon. No. Unfortunately
- 31:02Speaker 1: for the people who wish to see it returned, the
- 31:07Speaker 1: directors the management of both the museum and the Illinois
- 31:10Speaker 1: Department of Military Affairs are not budgeting. Colonel Brad Layton,
- 31:16Speaker 1: the public affairs director of the Illinois Department of Military
- 31:19Speaker 1: Affairs as recently as two thousand and sixteen, said when
- 31:26Speaker 1: asked if they would ever return this leg to Texas,
- 31:30Speaker 1: he said, the answer is no. We paid for that
- 31:32Speaker 1: leg with Illinois blood and so Nold, there's another quote
- 31:37Speaker 1: that you found from the same King of the Hill episode,
- 31:42Speaker 1: the Final shin Sult and in this clip we can
- 31:47Speaker 1: see this clip is a little bit different because they're
- 31:50Speaker 1: taking a sort of an alternative universe approach, but we
- 31:54Speaker 1: can see how many people would react to the mention
- 31:58Speaker 1: of Santa Anna's leg, especially a grizzled Texas war hero
- 32:03Speaker 1: like Grandpa hill Cotton, one of my favorite characters in
- 32:06Speaker 1: the show Here we Go, Hank. That reminds me we
- 32:10Speaker 1: need some chaperons for Bobby's class trip. What kind of
- 32:12Speaker 1: trip by Vegas? There's a general and exhibit the museum.
- 32:16Speaker 1: We did at play about him in school and I
- 32:18Speaker 1: was one of his province. Yeah, yeah, I know all
- 32:20Speaker 1: about Santy Anny. We got his walking laud under glass.
- 32:23Speaker 1: Neil Noise, I'm glad to say, actually, Cotton, the leg
- 32:26Speaker 1: is coming through Arland. America is finally returning the leg, Tomco.
- 32:29Speaker 1: What take it easy, Dad? Take it easy? You see Bobby,
- 32:34Speaker 1: your daddy's generations giving away everything we fought for, pant
- 32:37Speaker 1: him off the now Mexican leg people give back down
- 32:41Speaker 1: to his backers that you had him. And while the
- 32:45Speaker 1: real life press that A is not traveling to Mexico,
- 32:48Speaker 1: or at least not as we record this. Uh. The
- 32:51Speaker 1: clip does a decent job of depicting the emotions involved.
- 32:57Speaker 1: And now the leg store means in Illinois and the
- 33:01Speaker 1: people who could return it to Texas are categorically against it,
- 33:06Speaker 1: so it looks set to stay there. Yeah, it's also
- 33:09Speaker 1: Mexico wants it back all the while. Um sant Ana,
- 33:12Speaker 1: even during his life, was was petitioning to get it
- 33:14Speaker 1: back in Mexico has continued to ask for it back.
- 33:17Speaker 1: You can kind of see why Illinois would be so
- 33:21Speaker 1: fond of the leg um. They went so far as
- 33:24Speaker 1: to name one of their cities after the Battle of
- 33:28Speaker 1: Sarah Gordo, which took place in Mexico, Um sarah Gordo,
- 33:31Speaker 1: which means fat hill. Right. Yeah, And at this point
- 33:37Speaker 1: I'm probably wondering what happens to Santa Anna after he
- 33:42Speaker 1: has lost his leg that he spends you know, much
- 33:45Speaker 1: of his later life petitioning to have returned. From eighteen
- 33:51Speaker 1: fifty five to eighteen seventy four, he lived in exile
- 33:55Speaker 1: in various parts of the world, in Cuba, Columbia, the
- 33:59Speaker 1: United States, the Island of St. Thomas. A lot of
- 34:02Speaker 1: Napoleon analogs here right right, like Saint Helena and Elba.
- 34:08Speaker 1: He had left. He being Santa Anna, had left Mexico
- 34:12Speaker 1: due to his unpopularity after his defeat in a participated
- 34:19Speaker 1: in different gambling businesses and other industries, hoping that he
- 34:25Speaker 1: would become rich. Oh, we didn't even talk about his marriages.
- 34:28Speaker 1: Did you know what he He had a habit of
- 34:30Speaker 1: marrying wealthy teenage women for the for the financial benefits.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Ariss is kind of yeah, and one of the one
- 34:40Speaker 1: of the legends is that during one of his weddings,
- 34:44Speaker 1: he didn't show up to the ceremonies. What a piece
- 34:47Speaker 1: of work. I guess he was busy. He could work
- 34:50Speaker 1: at it. I mean, you know, everybody knows scheduling is
- 34:52Speaker 1: tough or anything. So one of the things he did
- 35:00Speaker 1: in his later life in the eighteen fifties, he brought
- 35:04Speaker 1: the first shipment of chick la to New York. Yeah,
- 35:10Speaker 1: he helped introduce chewing gum to the United States. He
- 35:15Speaker 1: originally intended it to be used in tires, which makes sense,
- 35:20Speaker 1: you know at the time. But he had hoped that
- 35:25Speaker 1: he could hang out with his friend inventor named Thomas
- 35:29Speaker 1: Adams and create a rubber substitute, which a lot of
- 35:32Speaker 1: people were looking for in this day and age, and unfortunately,
- 35:37Speaker 1: they could not use the chick la in that In
- 35:40Speaker 1: that application. However, Adams figured out that if he added
- 35:45Speaker 1: flavorings and sweeteners to the plant to the chick la,
- 35:49Speaker 1: he could create quote rubber chewing gum, and the company
- 35:53Speaker 1: that Adams started would become one of the largest in
- 35:56Speaker 1: the United States, rivaled only by that of William Wrigley Jr.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Wrigley Gum. Yeah, I like a good juicy fruit. Yeah,
- 36:05Speaker 1: oddly enough. I don't know if we've mentioned it on
- 36:07Speaker 1: this show, but you know, juicy fruit is an entirely
- 36:10Speaker 1: manufactured flavorage doesn't exist. They made it up synthetically, and
- 36:16Speaker 1: that's why it's not that's why it is not tied
- 36:20Speaker 1: to any specific fruit flavor. But it's still you know,
- 36:24Speaker 1: it has the waft of a fruit like flavor. Right. Yeah,
- 36:29Speaker 1: last thing only because we we skipped it. We probably
- 36:31Speaker 1: should have brought this up earlier. Apparently the Illinois Infantry,
- 36:34Speaker 1: the fourth Illinois Infantry, actually captured as an additional um
- 36:39Speaker 1: Santa Ana leg that's true. Yes, yeah, we should mention
- 36:42Speaker 1: because the one that people think about and get all
- 36:44Speaker 1: worked up about is, you know, the full Monty cork
- 36:49Speaker 1: manufactured prosthetic. But that one would have been probably a
- 36:53Speaker 1: little more difficult to put on. So as a secondary,
- 36:56Speaker 1: as a backup, he also had something of a more
- 36:58Speaker 1: humble peg let egg uh and apparently Lieutenant Abner double
- 37:03Speaker 1: Day like to use it as a baseball bat. And
- 37:06Speaker 1: it's on display right here in our town of Atlanta, Decatur,
- 37:10Speaker 1: in fact um, at the former governor's mansion, Oglesby Mansion.
- 37:14Speaker 1: So we should check that out, we should do a
- 37:15Speaker 1: field trip, and we should also bid a due to
- 37:20Speaker 1: Antonio Lopez de Santa Ano. What a winding and twisted
- 37:24Speaker 1: story this one was. Now there is a good There
- 37:27Speaker 1: is a good ending, at least on a personal level.
- 37:29Speaker 1: In eighteen seventy four, under the terms of a general amnesty,
- 37:33Speaker 1: he was able to return home to Mexico. His vision
- 37:37Speaker 1: had deteriorated to a extreme degree due to the development
- 37:42Speaker 1: of cataracts. He was largely dismissed or ignored by the
- 37:48Speaker 1: government of the time, and he hadn't been in politics
- 37:51Speaker 1: since eighteen fifty five. Eventually, he passed away at his
- 37:56Speaker 1: home in Mexico City in eighteen seventy six, at the
- 38:00Speaker 1: age of eighty two. He was buried in a glass coffin.
- 38:04Speaker 1: That's cool, like snow white. And imagine, you know, for
- 38:08Speaker 1: someone who lives a such a violent life in war,
- 38:12Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like winning the lottery to die
- 38:15Speaker 1: in peace at your own home. Not to mention at
- 38:17Speaker 1: eight two, life expectancy back in those days was was
- 38:21Speaker 1: not not near that. And to have, you know, life
- 38:24Speaker 1: expectancy for soldiers of course, yeah, but just in general, right,
- 38:27Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it pretty pretty impressive that he
- 38:30Speaker 1: that he made it that far and had gone through
- 38:32Speaker 1: so much intense stuff. Um, but yeah, that's not that's
- 38:36Speaker 1: that's not a happy ending exactly, but it's it's a
- 38:38Speaker 1: little dignity for this mavericky, complex peacock of a man. Yeah,
- 38:44Speaker 1: it's it's bitter sweet, but it is peaceful and that's
- 38:48Speaker 1: you know, there's nothing wrong with that. You can't be
- 38:51Speaker 1: angry at that. However, however, you can visit Illinois, you
- 38:57Speaker 1: can visit Atlanta, and you can see these legs in
- 39:00Speaker 1: person if you would like to check out, at least
- 39:04Speaker 1: in the case of Illinois, a relic that traveled the
- 39:06Speaker 1: Udinean States as a tourist attraction. If you do happen
- 39:11Speaker 1: to go there, please send us some photos. I would
- 39:15Speaker 1: like to see it if you if you could take
- 39:17Speaker 1: a selfie in front of the leg and I you know,
- 39:21Speaker 1: this brings us back to the earlier question that we
- 39:24Speaker 1: explored in the Corpses in the Diorama episode, which is
- 39:28Speaker 1: about ownership and ethics in museum collections. What do you think, folks,
- 39:34Speaker 1: should Illinois retain possession of this leg? Does it belong
- 39:39Speaker 1: in Mexico? Does it belong in Texas? Does it belong
- 39:42Speaker 1: somewhere else? And if so, why let us know. You
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- 40:06Speaker 1: his favorite historical jerk. And apparently we're going to get
- 40:10Speaker 1: some glamour shots of Casey during his lucrative child modeling
- 40:14Speaker 1: career when he returns from France, which is a true story.
- 40:19Speaker 1: I can't wait to see. I can't wait to see
- 40:21Speaker 1: who his fake dad is. That's right. Yeah, he's gonna
- 40:24Speaker 1: think he was telling us about that off air. So
- 40:28Speaker 1: thank you as always very much for listening. Thank you
- 40:31Speaker 1: to our super producer, Casey Pegram. Thank you to our
- 40:35Speaker 1: guest producer Eaton Brown. Give me a high five. Yeah,
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