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The Bermuda Triangle: Mystery, Myth, or No-Fly Zone? | Ep. 40 · Arguing Ever After

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I'm Luke and this is Amber. Hello.
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arguingeverafter@gmail.com. Yeah, please do.
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Please do because we are 40 episodes in. 40.
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I know it's amazing. Lordy, lordy, look who's 40.
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It's us, it's us. I've had that birthday.
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Yeah, Yeah, you did. You did.
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You're. I did.
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Slightly past that, I haven't. We'll see in a.
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Couple. There it is when I get there,
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yeah. It's perpetually just stuck at
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27. I don't know why.
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Must be tough. I I wish I had the joints of you
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wish I had. About that hair of my 27 year
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old self. Yeah.
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And you know the body because I've had a number of surgeries
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since then. Right, right.
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Well, no, You had a lot of knee stuff.
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But I like where my brain is at. There you go.
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And you know, the whole the mind, body, spirit thing minus
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the body part. And I guess I'm fine with where
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my body's at. I've also grown more capable
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since then. There you go.
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Doing marathon bike rides and stuff.
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You probably could have done it then, you just didn't feel.
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That's true. I probably could have.
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Yeah. Well, OK.
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You were, you've always been healthy, Ish.
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In that type of an arena, I don't think you've ever not.
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I'll take it healthy ish. I mean, I don't think you've
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ever not been able to do that with the right training in your
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life. I don't think you've overcome
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like extreme. I don't know what the word is,
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I'm looking there. But I think at any point in your
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life you could have trained to do it, to do what you've done
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with your biking. Thank you.
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You're welcome. I don't think at any point in my
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life I could have 100. Luke likes these bike rides that
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are like 100 miles and that's just that's amazing.
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But also. Hours and hours and hours on a
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bike saddle. Yeah, yeah.
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Well, anyhow, I don't like that particular part of it.
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Well, but being able to do that, you know, plus 40, when I was a
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kid, I thought 40 was dead, so. Yeah, for sure.
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Certainly no one I knew who was 40 could have possibly done
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that. Well, like when we were kids,
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our parents were 40, right? You know, like that was like a
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whole nother generation. Right.
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Well, your parents were 40. OK.
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Yeah, Yeah. You had one that was 30 and one
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that was 60. I mean, OK, sure, sure.
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Not quite that. You want to talk trash?
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I'm just. Saying no, I'm just saying that
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that not everybody has the same age.
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Parents, that's true. So but but no, I I think that 40
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has not been terrible and episode 40 I'm hoping is not
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terrible but I know it won't be there.
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It is because our last episode gained a little traction.
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Yes. And I'm thinking that it's going
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to continue. I'm I'm not sure what the
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contributing factor is, but we had a few countries hop on
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board. Countries and.
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It could be that we had a shout out on the Ridiculous Crime
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podcast, which has a huge audience.
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And thank you, ridiculous. Crimes, yes.
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I don't know if maybe it was self-imposed, but either way
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they what's. Their club called.
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The rude dudes, the rude dudes. It's not a club, but.
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You're a rude dude. I'm a rude dude cuz I'm a fan.
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There it is. Can we come up with a catchy
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name for our people? We gotta work on that.
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Yeah, yeah, we'll have to work. We're gonna put that in the
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oven. Yeah, yeah.
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Put that on the vision board of coming up with the name for our
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audience, OK. Or maybe they could come up with
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one for themselves. That would be interesting.
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But anyhow, so I don't know if it's that or if it was our last
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episode asked such a big question about being can you be
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engaged too long? That was, yeah, that was a
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question, yeah. We often float around on like
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way low impact questions. Yep.
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Like I don't know what kind of toppings you should have on your
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pizza. I mean.
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That which that's hey, you can get we we can get a little
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feisty on that, but. We can.
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Engagement is something that is definitely more the weightier.
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Right. People have a stronger opinion
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about their life. Now if we had an episode about
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could you get engaged to a pizza, I feel like that would be
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less weighty. I mean, the answer to that is
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yes. I don't know.
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Should you is a whole? That's a situation we might have
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a question at some point of should you, could you get
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married to an AI? Because people are doing that
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now. Like actually I think that's
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happened like in a couple places.
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I'm writing it down. I hate it cuz I hate AI but.
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Don't tell them that they're listening.
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Good, good listen, AI marriage. I don't know.
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I think marriage is hard enough. What if it's connected to a
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robot? What do you mean?
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Like it's an AI inside of the robot.
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Well, how else would it be? Like there's people that have
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virtual marriages to like AI. Oh gosh, without a physical
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presence, OK Dang, you didn't even know.
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That no, we're, I'm gonna have to do some research and we're
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gonna have to talk about. This a lot of research.
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This feels like a unethical thing, but maybe it's not.
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I don't know. I'm gonna have to do some
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looking into that. It's worth looking into it.
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Might be a good thing for a bonus episode so people don't
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know what it's coming. Out that could be.
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I'm ready to record it right after this one.
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Well, anyhow, what I wanted to do though was say hello to our
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new countries cuz it's we've like I said, we've we've gotten
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a little extra there more than I think we've ever had in one in
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the distance of 1 episode. But I wanted to start off by
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saying where they are. You can say hello.
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And I wanna share. A couple of facts cuz usually we
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do a little bit of research about the countries to just get
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to know who are new friends are. And as the loyal listeners know,
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the researcher is not me. Yeah, yeah.
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Except for the how do you say hello?
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So here we go. OK.
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We've got. Our first country.
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You wanna name the countries? Go.
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Well, I'm gonna let the folks guess and then, then I'll.
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Say, have they guessed? Now, no, they haven't.
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They haven't yet. OK, so this is an S shaped
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island. Oh, it's like a trivia this.
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Is fun. New fun.
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We can add trivias. I don't know why I'm excited.
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OK, go. OK, so this country is an S
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shaped island. Wait, do I get?
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Do I get to guess? Let's.
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See, I mean you, you know the three, but you'll.
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Get yeah so I'm semi semi cheating.
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I feel like you already know the answer based on that.
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But wait wait wait. You're right, I do.
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It is the second largest coffee producer.
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Oh. And it has the world's largest
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cave. I mean, I know the answer, but
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dramatic pause for the audience to to think, toss their guesses
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around. Yeah, and if you want to think a
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little bit longer, you can just pause it for a second and come
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back once you have your answer. OK.
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And the answer is Vietnam. You're correct.
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Ding, Ding, Ding. I win, What do I win?
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The opportunity to say hello. OK.
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And how you say hello, there are a few different ways as there
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are in most places, but the way that I learned from my very
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intensive research was Shin Chao.
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There it is. That's hello in Vietnamese.
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Hello with probably terrible pronunciation but I'll I'll do
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my best every time. Hello new friends.
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Hello to Vietnam. All right, so now I have the
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next one for you, OK. And again you.
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Know this might be tougher. This might be tougher.
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I'll maybe I'm going to think about it, OK?
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It has the Southern hemisphere's highest peak.
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OK, I think I know the answer. It is the world's eighth largest
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country. The world's yeah Dang wait.
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By mass or population. I'm thinking mass.
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I so we don't know I. Don't know what the population
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is. I usually would say like the
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world's eighth population or something.
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So this is probably like geographically the largest piece
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of the map. I would think so. 8th according
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to the Internet. I definitely know the answer.
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OK. And it is.
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But not cuz of that. It's the birth place of tango.
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Do you know what it's also the birth place of?
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No. I'm going to throw a couple more
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pieces of trivia. And you know what?
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For our listening audience, these might be more challenging
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questions. OK, OK.
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It is the birth place of legendary legendary soccer
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player. I would have no idea, Messi.
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Yes. Oh, look at.
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That you answered it without even.
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I'm so proud. Of you though, the only name I
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know. Lionel Messi.
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Hold on while I just tell the world that the greatest soccer
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player of all time, Lionel Messi, is from this country and
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his predecessor, also legendary Diego Maradona.
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Also, I don't know who that is. Legendary soccer player.
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But I do know of one other that is definitely not from this
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country. OK wait, what?
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So we're doing non trivia now. I'm just gonna go with the other
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soccer player, no. Which is this is not gonna be
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good, OK. Beckham, David Beckham.
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Yeah, but why does that have anything?
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To do nothing. You were talking about soccer.
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Players, brief pause, right? For Amber.
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We're gonna pause, Amber, and we're gonna just let you guys
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think for a second. If you don't already have an
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answer, soccer person, just ignore the fact that you're
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England. What do you stop it anyway?
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OK, brief pause. No, no, no, no.
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OK, the answer is Argentina. You are correct.
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And how you say in Argentina, and I've said this a few times,
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when we've added some countries from the Southern Hemisphere
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over here in the Americas, it's Hola.
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Yes. Which is different than the
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other two or three times I've said it.
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Yeah, now. Let's have some trivia for the.
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Third final run I wasn't going to do because I didn't.
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I was thinking, me, I mean, I was going to do, but I was
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waiting to laugh. You said Beckham.
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That's the only one I just. Random soccer.
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Player Yeah, you're saying soccer names?
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That's how I felt. It was random.
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Wait, fun side tidbit. Did you know that Lionel Messi,
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the great Leo, currently plays for Miami in the Major League
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Soccer of the United States? OK, well, you know, maybe many
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people just learned that and you are included.
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Did you know the owner of that team is David Beckham?
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All right, there you go. That's what I did A.
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Little a little 66 degrees of Kevin Bacon.
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I was pulling it full circle. Yeah for folks.
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Now this last one I waited cuz again you knew and I thought
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maybe I could throw you off with something there but so this one
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is the first UNESCO World Heritage site.
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Really. Yes.
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Interesting. It has the HIO Biodiversity per.
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Squares. Did I?
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Yeah, you said HIO Bio that's. Kind of bio.
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No, you said the fun way I. Was probably reading it
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verbatim. Nope, I did right right.
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The highest biodiversity per square kilometer.
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So that gives you a hint, because it's clearly not
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America, because we don't know what a kilometer is.
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Or, well, we probably do have some biodiverse states, but
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maybe, I don't know, per square kilometer is important.
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Yes, and then it is the closest country to the sun.
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What? Yeah.
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But I can't. It is.
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Your facts refute themselves. Let me, I'm gonna propose.
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What are you saying? Why do you think?
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That just listen, hear me out the sun, which is far, far away
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in space. So I'm.
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Gonna give you one more fact. Would not the highest place be
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the closest place? Like wouldn't Mount Everest be
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that's? A really great question.
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I feel like it's a fair. Question, but it's not the
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answer. You're wrong.
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Let's educate. You.
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So I'll give you one more fact. And it's gonna be like, of
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course, OK, It's named after the equator, as the country is split
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in half at the equator line. The equator is the closest to
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the sun. Now you get it.
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Yeah, cuz if like Antarctica had a 20 mile mountain, it's still
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not. Still not as close to the sun.
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Because of the spinning part. Yep.
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Interesting even I was thinking even Argentina, which is also a
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lot closer to the equator than Everest.
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But it is not. It is not I.
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Still want to. I want to double double check
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this after just for my own. You can.
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You don't have to, but. You, I know you did the
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research. I appreciate.
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That I did research. Closest to the sun.
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OK. Yes, yes.
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So now everybody's thought about it for a few seconds and the
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answer is Luke. Venezuela.
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No. Ecuador.
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Yeah. Dang it, you guys, I knew the
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answer. I knew it and I failed the test
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that the teacher said it's open book and I said look at that
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says equator and I my mouth said Venezuela.
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I should be kicked off the podcast, should just get sit one
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of the dogs here where I am and you can just go back and forth
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with them. I I really I'm shocked that.
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Well, I forgot you. Got that wrong.
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Well, you know, especially I really thought see Lucas really
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into like name origin. Yeah, and Equator and Ecuador
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are real similar, aren't they? Close.
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Close. So there you go.
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I mean if you got 2 right, you got the same as Luke.
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You beat. If you got if.
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You got on the screen, you beat me.
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You definitely beat Luke, who already knew the answers ahead
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of time. Dang, that so congratulations,
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but you gotta say hello. Oh yeah, and it's again
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different. You gotta listen.
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I'm listening. For the between Argentina and
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this one, it's different, Hola. All right, all right.
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Little bit different. It was a little different, yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, I think I heard a little
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more of the tango in in Argentina.
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We were dancing. Yeah, yeah.
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So. So it's been a lot of fun to
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catch catch these new countries and like I've said.
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Catch them like a Pokémon yeah you love.
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Catching things I love. Catch them all, you do.
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I do, I do, but I definitely want to, you know, continue to
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learn. So, you know, keep keep inviting
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others around the world because it's it's forced me to learn
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something because I want to share information do.
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You remember that time I said the completely wrong place?
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Struggling. This does not bode well for my
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chances of accurately thinking and speaking words that win
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today. Well, here's the thing, I guess
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I really, you know, we all make mistakes.
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I said a high opio or. You did that.
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I feel a little better. Yeah, yeah, All right.
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I mean, that's exactly the same as knowing the answer and then
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all. Yes.
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The same highest biodiversity. Highest biased diversity.
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Yes, there you go. There you go.
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Anyhow, so that's a lot of fun. It's interesting.
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Highest biodiversity? I don't even know what that
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means. I'm gonna have like, I know what
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it means, but I don't know what it means.
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Like I just can't. It must mean most species.
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You're welcome. Thank you.
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Thank you. Am I redeeming myself?
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No, not at all, but I like how you're trying the sound like you
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got your stuff together. I'm trying so.
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Hard you are. It's OK.
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It's OK. You'll bring it back, I think
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probably later. OK.
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But you know, with the warmth and all of that, that we were
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just around because we were near the equator.
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This is a little fur. Mentally not, we weren't
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physically there, no, it's. Really unfortunate that.
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'D be nice. It's unfortunate.
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We'd we'd seen a play which we talked about recently, and they
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had been in Cuba in the play, and I was watching, you know,
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the, the, it's a play. It's not even Cuba.
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And I was like, oh, they look so warm.
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Yeah. And they look like they're
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having such a. Great time.
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They were dancing and there was little fake palm trees.
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And there's something about being closer to the equator, I
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think, that just makes people. It's party time, isn't it?
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Happier. Yeah.
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Yeah, I mean, is it? Well, I don't want to say
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anything about people too far away, because we're pretty far
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away. But sometimes we're grumpy.
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The cold makes us grumpy. Well, it's true when when it's
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very dark for a very long time and very cold, it affects the
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mood. Well, I mean, we're also far
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away from water, you know. Well, we aren't actually in
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Minnesota. We have more.
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So far away from big water. From big water.
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From salt water. That's better salt water cuz we
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we have big water too. Lake Superior, It's big.
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Yeah, you can't see across it. I mean depends how you look.
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Well. If you're looking just a little
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bit, OK, if you look out of the ocean, you can't be like, oh, I
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definitely can see across. Like if I look at this angle and
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I'm at this point, you can't, you can't see across the.
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That's cute. Wow.
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I know I am. Thank you.
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Thank. You.
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I know, but we seeing that I've also kind of had my mind on
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we've talked about vacation a lot let's.
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Go going anywhere. Oh, sorry.
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I thought you were gonna. I was agreeing.
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We can't, wanted you to say. We can't go anywhere right now.
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We're too busy with our podcast. Just simply couldn't.
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Yes. Tell them just we can't.
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There's no free time, so much podcasting.
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But I've been actually recently, we are also on WFNU Frogtown
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Radio with our older episodes and one of the, we've been kind
19:16
of going through some of our spooky or woo woo stuff.
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And I thought, gosh, we love the woo woo.
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It might be time to look back at our topics and see if there's
19:27
one that would fit for how we're feeling right now.
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And the one that came up is Luke doesn't know and he's not going
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to pass. The time I'm not saying the
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wrong country again, I'm not doing it.
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The one that came up that I have certainly had some thoughts
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about for a very, very, very long time is the Bermuda
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Triangle doesn't feel like it's got any Halloween factor to it.
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Feels like we want to be warm. It's warm there.
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It's warm there. So if we're going to talk about
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being warm, let's talk about being in a place like that.
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Let's talk about the Bermuda Triangle and.
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Let's talk about how on the Addams Family movie from the
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1990s starring. I don't know.
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Hold on, give me a minute. I'm going to get.
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Angelica Houston. Yep.
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And Raul? Julia.
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Wow. And Wednesday.
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And Wednesday, Christina Richie. There it is, Richie.
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And Christopher Lloyd? That's true.
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And Pugsley, which I don't. Know Sorry Pugsley, sorry.
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This probably happens to him in real life all the time.
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I bet it does. Well, anyway, in that movie The
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great love of of Gomez and Morticia, he.
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Says many. Wonderful things.
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And in one of the scenes he says, I don't know exactly,
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something like Karami, do you remember Devil's Island, the
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Bermuda Triangle? And it sounded very romantic and
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a little bit spooky. A little.
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Yeah, that's my research. People, in case you're
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wondering, and also the I know one thing, what do you know?
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The island of. Bermuda is either in the
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triangle or or it's one of the parts of the triangle.
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There it is. OK.
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So sort of makes me an expert. I mean.
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I'm going to say both can be true.
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OK, which makes you right, Great.
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Because it is a part of the Bermuda Triangle.
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Therefore it would make Bermuda in the Bermuda Triangle, right?
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If it's a part, yeah, in for sure.
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And then it goes from there to Florida and Puerto Rico.
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It goes to Florida. It does go to Florida OR.
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Part of Florida. OK, why?
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Are you going to ask me something?
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Well, I don't know if it goes. Does it go to the southern tip
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of the great land mass or does it go to like the one of the
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keys? I actually.
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Know that information, but I'm not going to be able to pull it
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out right now. But I do know where like what
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part of Florida, but like I have like this issue and I'm sure I'm
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not alone, but maybe I am where like I look at a map and I can't
22:26
really visualize that distance really cuz like what that even
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could possibly look like? What distance?
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But in that. Area the area of Oh, I thought.
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You had reference to distance. I I thought I had missed
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something. No, but I will tell.
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People, I'm excited how big it is.
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It's probably big. It is.
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How big? Would you guess it as a square
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square. Miles.
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Square miles, Yes. I don't know.
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I might. You mean triangle?
22:51
Miles just get the shapes right, first of all.
22:54
So it's a triangle, people. It's not a square.
22:57
Can't be a square. The Bermuda square is, I'm going
23:01
to say, 5000 square miles. Wow.
23:06
See you also have the issue of the map being like.
23:10
You just can't compute how much spatial distance 1000 square.
23:17
Miles. I give up.
23:20
No, it's. 1.5 million square miles is.
23:28
That's because it's a. Triangle.
23:31
The math is hard. That's what it is.
23:35
We lost Amber to get a drink over there.
23:37
But I'm telling you people, it's got to be the triangle factor.
23:41
OK, wait. So part of the triangle is
23:43
Bermuda, part of it's somewhere in Florida, part of where do you
23:47
know? I think it's where the.
23:49
Other triangle. Part is what do you mean like I?
23:52
Think it's Are these the points? In the is it Bermuda, Florida
23:56
and then unknown Puerto Rico is. Not unknown.
23:59
Oh, Puerto Rico. Didn't I say Puerto Rico?
24:01
Maybe. I think I did.
24:03
I don't always listen. Yes.
24:04
I definitely. Said Puerto Rico.
24:07
Anyhow, so that's the area that we're looking at in the sea,
24:10
which goes mostly. South from Florida to Puerto
24:12
Rico and then out into the Caribbean to Bermuda and then
24:20
back? Sure.
24:22
Yes, OK. Yes.
24:24
But would you have thought that, I mean like that sounds like a
24:27
lot of square miles. It is a lot.
24:30
I I mean. So it's a pretty big space.
24:32
I guess I wasn't ever envisioning it being that large.
24:38
Like I knew it was big, but I mean, I well, that just means
24:41
like it's. 1000 miles. I don't know we're.
24:46
Not stop doing the math, Luke, because zeroes 1000 carry the 2,
24:51
so maybe it's like. Each side of the triangle is
24:54
like 700 miles. It's.
24:58
Really large. It's for all you geographers.
25:00
And cartographers out there, I apologize deeply, I mean.
25:04
If you heard and. All you mathematicians and math
25:07
teachers, again, deepest apologies for me who?
25:11
Was your geometry teacher? I don't know but triangle.
25:14
Math is first shirt different than square math is true.
25:23
There's some good ones on here. I think maybe we should get that
25:25
on a T-shirt. OK, Yep.
25:28
Yep. So write that down too.
25:30
We gotta. Have T-shirt ideas?
25:31
We'll throw a We made some T-shirts.
25:33
Arguing ever after. Maybe we'll do a do like an
25:36
arguing ever after logo on the front and then triangle and.
25:41
Then random. Stuff that we've said on quotes
25:44
in the back different. Triangle math is.
25:46
Different than square math than square math all.
25:49
Right. All right.
25:50
You can quote Luke on that. Good, I hope.
25:53
I hope the people do, but. Anyhow, so it's a pretty large
25:57
area. I was not thinking it was, I
25:59
mean, I knew it was large, but I mean, like it's, it's pretty
26:02
large. And, and in this area for those
26:06
who don't know, because we do have some younger listeners who
26:09
maybe don't have the education on this because you're not
26:11
really going to learn this in elementary school or anything.
26:14
I did because I was super smart. And I've said this before and I
26:20
got some additional opportunities to learn outside
26:23
of regular learning. And one of the things I learned
26:28
about was the Bermuda Triangle in, you know, 3rd or 4th grade.
26:33
I didn't I. Didn't.
26:34
I? Don't think I did.
26:35
I did. Did.
26:36
I I don't. I don't remember, I don't know.
26:38
But you know, it's kind of interesting because I I feel,
26:42
oh, he just did AI thought of something.
26:44
Else I remembered about the Bermuda Triangle.
26:48
This is my other non research part of my knowledge base.
26:53
The great song by The Beach Boys, you've already said.
26:57
This. No, I didn't.
26:58
Oh, you. Didn't.
26:58
No, not on the podcast. I talked about it before.
27:01
Oh, OK. At some point with the part
27:03
where they say Bermuda Bahama, Yeah, come on, baby Mama.
27:08
No. Yeah.
27:09
How did you fail 1/3 time today? That's it.
27:13
That's not. Kilara.
27:15
Montego, baby, why don't we go? Come on.
27:19
Pretty Mama, baby Mama, you guys I broke.
27:27
Amber, I was so excited. This is great.
27:31
I think that's the first time I really got you on the podcast.
27:36
Now you know why she. Stays with me people for so
27:39
long, I know this. Is it?
27:41
But you're cute. Though, Yeah, yeah.
27:43
There it is. Oh gosh.
27:45
So. So anyhow, that is for back
27:47
checkers. It is.
27:50
Come on, pretty Mama. Well, unless you're.
27:53
Modifying a little bit? Nope.
27:55
Nope. So okay, there's I have tears.
28:01
God. Who?
28:04
Well. Anyhow.
28:06
We're going to recover from this.
28:07
Sounds like you haven't. Learned that much about the
28:09
Bermuda it's in the. Song OK, No it didn't.
28:12
Bermuda is. In the song Bermuda is Yes.
28:15
But I haven't heard much about it actually recently, and I feel
28:19
like it was something I heard a lot more about when I was
28:21
younger. I think there was like.
28:23
A moment it had. A moment which maybe was that
28:25
tied to the Addams family? No, no.
28:28
But you want to know so so there was a book written in 1970 about
28:36
the Bermuda Triangle. OK, which kind?
28:38
Of started. This whole interest at the
28:41
larger level of the world. See that for a second.
28:45
At the larger. Level of the world where they
28:49
are suddenly interested in these mysterious, spooky things there
28:53
are a lot of. Mysterious doings there are.
28:56
There are and like, do you want to know what some of those
29:00
mysterious things were? Do I?
29:02
Yeah. OK.
29:03
So as early as like the 1800s, you know, when there were lots
29:08
of ships going all over the world, you know the ships and
29:12
that's isn't. That prime, like pirate
29:15
territory? Yeah, well.
29:17
I mean it's a part of the whole East India trading.
29:18
Company situation and all that business in the 1800s.
29:21
Lots of ships got lost at sea. Anywhere, anywhere across the
29:25
entire world. It's huge.
29:27
It's bigger than even 1. Point 5,000,000 square miles.
29:30
Yep, Yep, and. Actually at 1.0 there was a a
29:34
ghost ship that was supposedly although I believe in ghosts it.
29:39
Wasn't. There was a ghost ship and
29:42
really that that people had thought had been in in the
29:47
Bermuda Triangle, but they later on determined it wasn't.
29:50
But what was really interesting is that when they found the ship
29:53
and it was off of somewhere in Europe, I think that they found
29:57
the ship, but they thought you were going to say.
29:58
One Eyed Willie and the Goonies. No, Dang it, but when they.
30:02
Got to the ship when they found this abandoned ship there was
30:07
still a can of beans cooking and a pipe smoking.
30:12
What? I know right?
30:14
Hold on. Hold the phone.
30:16
Wait, where did they find this? It was like off somewhere.
30:18
In Europe, near Spain I believe, but they had said it had
30:22
originated. It would like it had.
30:23
Shipwrecked. No.
30:25
No, like on the shore. No.
30:27
Where did they find the ship just.
30:29
In the water, I don't. Know just appeared in the in the
30:31
water. Yeah, floating.
30:33
Yeah, everyone's dead or gone. No, they're gone.
30:36
Everyone's gone. Nobody.
30:38
See, I was gonna had a real good answer.
30:39
I was gonna say, well, if it was crashed up on a shore, it was
30:42
just some random person taking advantage of some free housing.
30:44
Yeah, that would be. Wise, it's just floating around.
30:47
Just floating. Everyone's gone.
30:49
I'm just trying to make sure this is what we're
30:51
understanding. Yeah.
30:52
And someone was smoking a pipe and making some beans.
30:55
Well, those. Were the two items that were
30:57
found on board so? Like how?
31:01
Long it could have possibly been abandoned is nothing, but it was
31:04
near shore that they'd seen it and so it like you would
31:07
actually see people who would have been doing those types of
31:10
things. I mean I don't know how long it
31:13
takes to smoke a pipe but my dad back in Santa Claus also for
31:18
sure smoked pipes and I feel like his droll little mouth.
31:21
Was drawn up in a bow. Yeah, I feel.
31:23
Like, you would see people fleeing a huge ship, you know,
31:28
for, you know, to have it be in the same time frame because it
31:31
is only so long that these things could actually happen
31:34
without a human creating it to happen.
31:37
Sure. So this was a ship, one of the
31:40
first ships attributed to like, a actual loss in the Bermuda
31:44
Triangle. But they said actually, where it
31:47
was leaving from, it would have never had any reason to go
31:50
there. But people were still like,
31:53
there's some spooky stuff going went out in that area.
31:56
Sure. And you know, like I said, well
31:58
and you know. We all know that ship stories,
32:02
yeah. You know, I mean, right, Right.
32:05
Sailors don't always tell the truth.
32:07
They get. They get they.
32:08
Gain some steam, you know? Oh good.
32:10
Good, good. Not this one though.
32:12
And then before the steamship. But but anyhow, I like it.
32:16
That's right. I liked where you went there.
32:17
But anyhow, so that's one of like the first ones that was
32:20
publicly recognized and people were just fascinated by the
32:24
mystery of what on earth could have happened to have an
32:28
abandoned ship. Ghost ships are very rare.
32:31
I will one day do some more research and find out how many
32:35
ghost ships exist out there. More stories and I need to write
32:39
that down because I was so down this rabbit hole ships and it,
32:43
like I said, turned out to have nothing to do with the Bermuda
32:48
Triangle, but I was fascinated by it anyhow.
32:51
So that was one that they that whole story you just.
32:53
Told didn't have anything. It turned out not to man.
32:59
I'm upset to it. You better get back on.
33:01
Track, I was all like, we were starting to get the heebie
33:05
jeebies going on and then you said, never mind, right, All
33:09
right, bring it back home. OK, But I'm gonna.
33:10
I am. Back home and now, people said
33:12
that it came from that. A lot of history with the
33:15
Bermuda Triangle has a lot to do with, you know, like word of
33:20
mouth and how things existed. So when you're really looking at
33:23
it, you need to look at more recent recordable history, times
33:27
in life where we had actual like tracking abilities to see
33:34
exactly where these things happened.
33:37
For the Bermuda Triangle though, there are attributed to the
33:44
Bermuda Triangle 50 lost ships. That's a lot.
33:49
That's a lot, yes. 5050 lost ships since forever.
33:54
Yes. OK, 20 lost planes.
34:00
OK. That's a lot and over 1000.
34:03
People, Dang. Yeah, those are all a lot.
34:07
It's a lot of numbers. Like and there's it's, it's
34:11
interesting because it's kind of in different ways, right?
34:14
Like I mean you have you have the by boat people just missing.
34:19
There were a couple couple guys on A at one of the lighthouses
34:23
out in the area and they disappeared just out of nowhere.
34:27
So those are those, there are certain things that they
34:30
actually do have a person or something that is thoroughly
34:35
missing where it hit a lot of our consciousness or whatever it
34:40
is like world, world thought would have been with Flight 19,
34:46
Flight 19. Flight 19, have you heard?
34:48
Of Flight 19, I haven't. OK, so flight 19 was these like
34:55
four or five. I can't actually now remember
34:57
the exact number, but planes, Navy bombing planes who were
35:02
going out on a mission just to like a testing mission or
35:05
whatever folks do. There were some newer pilots on
35:09
the planes. They had one who had been there
35:11
for a long time and they all kind of knew the area they were
35:16
supposed to go to and come back. And when they were out there
35:20
flying there, they radioed back to whoever the flight control
35:24
folks were saying that they were lost.
35:27
They had no idea. Everything looked upside down or
35:30
backwards or things like that. And the flight controller said
35:35
it's fine, find the sun. You'll see some, some, you know,
35:40
sea island or sea land and then just follow that, you know, have
35:45
the sun to whatever it is your West or, or your left or right
35:49
wing. I actually don't remember which
35:51
wing it was, but that is not important.
35:54
What they said is there's no land, there's nothing.
35:57
And then they disappeared all together.
36:00
So not. One plane, not 2, but like I
36:03
said, it was either four or five, and it'd be better if I
36:05
knew the exact number. I knew it earlier today.
36:07
I don't remember it right now. Doesn't really matter, but it
36:11
does matter to those people. That was in 1945, OK.
36:16
So. There we had people who were
36:19
really good or or should have had like knowledge of flying.
36:25
Then another one that that is, there's been a couple too where
36:33
there have been, you know, people flying or boating and all
36:37
of a sudden they'll be out at sea and within this area and
36:42
they're like won't be able to use their compasses and things
36:46
like that. They just won't work.
36:47
I remember seeing. That on like a documentary.
36:49
Yeah, yeah, like. Gauges don't.
36:51
Work in some parts of the Bermuda Triangle.
36:53
Yeah, exactly. Well, that's what people say.
36:56
I mean, and I, there are certainly people who have gone
37:00
through this and have found that that was the case, but they have
37:04
not been able to like re pinpoint it, right.
37:07
So they're like at that time then, right, It wasn't working
37:11
then I couldn't possibly, you know, I can go back to that
37:14
exact same space. I believe I was and now it's
37:17
working. So it's like in and out, you
37:19
know which which happens, right, like radio frequency type of a
37:23
concept, it's in and out. So there is that.
37:27
Now why would these reasons, why would these things happen,
37:31
right? There's good questions and good
37:34
theories. I think a great question is the
37:37
why one of the theories out there, OK, is that that is over
37:45
the that water is over the lost city of Atlantis.
37:51
That's one of the theories. It's one of the theories I like.
37:53
It Edgar Cayce just said that in 1968 they would find the lost
37:59
city of Atlantis and it'd be on a wall, which is kind of,
38:02
there's some wall under there, OK.
38:04
I don't know. Famous.
38:07
Seer. Yes, famous.
38:10
Fortune teller, not fortune teller, but I don't know.
38:12
Yeah, Sears Prof Fun Prof. Seer.
38:15
Prof Seer Seer. OK, we'll see.
38:18
There it is all. Right there.
38:20
We go. So that's one of the reasons
38:22
why. Another reason that people think
38:25
that planes are just disappearing or ships are
38:28
disappearing is because it's a part of a parallel universe, OK.
38:33
And it's like the. Portal cool to a.
38:36
Parallel so people. Are still.
38:38
Maybe zapped into some other plane of existence exactly or
38:41
time. They could be at another time,
38:43
the whole world. Got really into a show recently,
38:47
so what's that called? I don't.
38:49
Stranger Things. Where there's a whole separate
38:52
universe could be. Called We are not There.
38:55
We've only we've only hit the 4th or 5th episode of Stranger
38:58
Things. Yeah, we don't know.
38:59
About Stranger Things. So if you're into that, sorry,
39:02
we just watched like two or three episodes because someone
39:04
told us to. Yeah, you know.
39:06
And it seems to me. Like there's a separate
39:09
dimension or mirror universe or something.
39:12
Anyway, I don't know. I don't know.
39:13
Like this Stranger Things could explain for me to triangle.
39:17
Yep. And the other thing?
39:18
When you don't know what the heck is going on, there's a
39:22
fourth option. But when?
39:24
I'll wait for that one. I'm gonna wait for that one.
39:26
OK, great. So the.
39:28
Next thing that people talk about is that there is nothing
39:36
gas lower and this is proven throughout water where there's
39:40
some methane gas that is at different parts of sea.
39:44
It's also naturally occurring. In it is naturally.
39:46
Occurring yeah yeah, shell. And stuff, but OK.
39:50
What do you know about methane gas?
39:52
Well, everyone knows it. Smells bad, I know nothing.
39:55
I didn't even know it smelled bad.
39:58
So this is OK. You know one more thing than I
39:59
do, except for I did research so I know another thing.
40:03
What do we know, kids? About methane gas and water.
40:09
Nothing I knew. Nothing.
40:11
But do you want to take a guess at what happens with what
40:14
methane gas can do to water vaporize it that?
40:18
Would make. Sense.
40:19
But you know what it does? It can do without enough methane
40:22
gas. It can change the density of
40:25
water. OK, what?
40:28
That's. OK, so Atlantis.
40:31
Could be what? Do you mean the density?
40:34
Like I know what density is but. I mean like like.
40:37
Give me like a real world. Example or terms or what are you
40:39
what are you getting at here? Meaning.
40:42
That at what point a ship would float could be a problem because
40:52
the water is no longer as dense. So like the.
40:54
Buoyancy of the ship. Like.
40:58
Changes enough that it just sinks and is gone.
41:01
That doesn't explain the airplanes.
41:03
Well, there is. That problem, OK, so when you
41:06
come to I have no other possible reason, but you said you were
41:10
going to save. #4 This is #4. OK, here we go.
41:14
UFOs. Oh.
41:18
Was that was that on? Your card wasn't on my.
41:20
Radar. I like it.
41:23
I'm mad at myself. You're infecting me with your
41:27
terrible jokes. Good, good.
41:29
I apologize. Everyone.
41:32
It's her fault. So.
41:34
Anyhow, that's the other theory, right?
41:36
That was pretty good. It's good.
41:38
It's good. That's the other theory why
41:41
things are just disappearing in this area.
41:44
So it's it's one of those 4 conspiracy theories.
41:48
Do you know what the 5th? 1 is what if those guys with the
41:53
lighthouse wouldn't have disappeared?
41:55
Everyone would have been safe. They could have found their way
41:57
out, Yeah, but the. Lighthouse is still there
42:00
though. The lighthouse didn't disappear.
42:02
Guys, operators. Ah, OK.
42:04
You're right, That's OK. Wow, you're just.
42:06
Shooting me down I did I. Did because you know anyhow, not
42:09
unlike an airplane. Well, not those.
42:12
Bomber airplanes. That's what I'm saying, yeah.
42:14
Also 19. 45 They probably knew what they were doing with the
42:17
airplanes. I know.
42:19
But there's been like research into the main pilot and like,
42:22
the family of the main teaching pilot was like, there's no way
42:27
this guy, he's been flying planes forever and he never gets
42:30
lost. But then like the Navy was like
42:33
point of order, he's gotten lost before.
42:36
OK, he's not as great as you think he is, but he's your hero
42:40
guy so don't be taking people. Down exactly.
42:44
Especially if he was. Like a war hero.
42:46
I mean, come on. Right?
42:47
It's exactly. What happened and the US Navy
42:50
was like, we will take this away from accident or change the what
42:55
the situation from accident to missing.
42:58
And so that is in the official record, but I'm going to tell
43:04
you something. We've talked about how many
43:07
people are supposedly attributed, how many planes, how
43:10
many ships, and it sounds like a lot.
43:12
It's a lot you. Want to hear something?
43:14
Bizarre. And maybe more disturbing.
43:17
OK it. Is not at a.
43:18
Higher rate than any other area in the ocean.
43:24
What this it's not. Like so it's so you take any.
43:28
Random 1.5 million miles of ocean and it's not.
43:34
Out of the recorded history. Amount of time you're talking
43:38
about the 1000 people and 20 planes and 50 ships is like, oh
43:44
that's fine, it's not an anomaly.
43:46
So what we're really getting? At here people is the ocean is
43:48
dangerous. Uh huh.
43:50
What? Uh huh, uh huh.
43:51
Uh. Huh.
43:53
You can even. Yeah.
43:55
I mean, Dang, I know. So the Coast Guard's like, yeah,
43:59
the US Navy, they're like, it's totes.
44:01
Cool. Yeah, this is normal.
44:03
Boys of London, the insuring company of like all these huge
44:06
ships is like, yeah, totally. We'll insure your ship.
44:08
Go through, they're all you want.
44:10
It's just water. It's just water.
44:13
But Luke, let me ask you a question.
44:16
All I. Wasn't ready for it.
44:17
I like it when you just pop the surprise on me.
44:20
OK, ladies and gentlemen, the moment you've all been waiting
44:24
for in this corner telling me to weigh in at 135 lbs.
44:29
We have the ocean loving, but not quite so much the sun part
44:37
of it. Yeah.
44:39
Lovely Amber, who would like to be near there?
44:43
Maybe. But yeah, look at it.
44:44
Yeah. We could just take.
44:46
A land at the Triangle from Florida.
44:49
Maybe even we have Amber yes and in.
44:52
This corner we have Luke, who has been teaching the world the
44:57
difference between square and triangle miles.
45:01
I'm a shapes person. You're a Shapes person.
45:03
And he's a math person, so the. Next thing I have for you.
45:07
Is going to be how many ties we have, which is 8 we are holding.
45:10
Well, first of all, I would. Like to say I am claiming to
45:13
weigh in 185 lbs. I wasn't going to do that.
45:15
I was. I need the world to know.
45:17
Right, because you're math. Yeah.
45:18
OK. So we have our eight ties, the
45:22
last, the last one. I have more than 8 ties.
45:25
We have. You have one, you just took one
45:31
of a poll that closed out, so you have reached.
45:34
Up to. 13 lucky number. 13 but you're still at 18.
45:38
We did a podcast. Episode about that yeah.
45:41
Closing in on You better watch out.
45:43
I mean, we still have a little. Bit of a ways, but I have a
45:45
question for you, Luke. OK, ask it.
45:47
Given everything. You've just learned about the
45:49
Bermuda Triangle, OK. Would you?
45:53
Go there. Yes, OK, case closed.
46:05
All right, well. I mean.
46:07
Yes. OK.
46:08
So it's in a part of the ocean. It's big.
46:13
It's in. It's in an area that is widely
46:19
known for tourism. Yeah.
46:22
Which is. Reassuring.
46:24
I mean, Puerto Rico, huge tourism.
46:26
Yeah, Marketplace. I don't actually know about
46:30
Bermuda, but The Beach Boys wanted to go there.
46:32
They did, and that was a long time ago.
46:34
And I feel like their song has added a lot of tourism to
46:38
Bermuda and Bahama and Kokomo and the Florida Keys.
46:43
Yeah. Florida Keys Prince.
46:47
Yeah. Well, maybe not Haiti so much
46:49
lately, I don't remember. Thoughts are with.
46:52
You people in Haiti, they've had trouble lately it's you know
46:57
anyway, so the whole. Area.
46:59
Is very highly attended as a place to go enjoy the sun and
47:05
the salt water and the beauty of nature and the relaxation of
47:12
getting outside of the the you know, the daily grind.
47:16
And so the at the place like I've been to Florida many times.
47:24
The places all sound actually kind of great.
47:27
So I would absolutely go because because if I went, that would
47:35
mean at least one thing, most likely strong, strong chance I'm
47:40
on vacation. If this is happening, chances
47:42
are. You could even.
47:44
You could even take out Florida as an option because I've been
47:47
there so many times. I would go right to Bermuda.
47:50
That's fine. Well, assuming that they have
47:51
like, I'm assuming they have like a place to stay.
47:54
And I mean you have to travel. Through the Bermuda Triangle,
47:56
like that's fine. I'm hopping to Bermuda.
47:58
That's that's fine. I'm sure you have to fly to get
48:01
there. Also.
48:03
Puerto Rico, is that what you said?
48:04
Yep, you said Port of Prince and I got them.
48:06
So Puerto Rico, Kokomo. Song.
48:08
Yep. So Puerto.
48:09
Rico, I've actually looked at going on we almost went there
48:13
once right I. Don't think OK you would have to
48:16
go through it. Yes, to get to that, you got to
48:19
go through it. I'm just saying it's a big 1.5
48:21
million mile. So you know, yes, I would, even
48:25
if I was like in Puerto Rico, which is one of the corners of
48:28
the triangle, I would hop on a boat and go right into the
48:31
triangle because this is beautiful.
48:33
And while the ocean may be dangerous, it is also wonderful
48:41
and magical. And I.
48:44
Just I love the ocean. I want to go swim in it, boat in
48:49
it, snorkel in it. I never scuba dived but I would
48:52
definitely scuba dive. No.
48:54
Oh, me and your child talked about scuba diving together.
48:58
Yep, it's just. Also, your child.
49:00
I know. Just for the record here, folks,
49:02
this is ours. Yeah, we collaborated.
49:04
That's. Just mine, so I would do.
49:07
I'm in for all that. I go fishing in there, try to
49:10
catch one of them. Big old, what's that one that my
49:14
grandpa had, I don't know, a Tarpon.
49:16
He caught a big Tarpon. It was in the house in upstate
49:20
New York. I remember as a kid he had all
49:22
his trophies of like these big, big, big things that he shot and
49:25
big fish that he caught when he would go on ocean fishing's boy.
49:29
Now that I said that, he must have had some money.
49:32
You don't say like somehow that. Literally never registered until
49:37
just now. Wow, that like if you were going
49:40
on a trip to the ocean and you lived in New York, well, there's
49:44
A to go fishing. Well, not not that has Tarpon
49:48
and sailfish and I don't know what kind of fish are.
49:50
I think those are all in. Hotter waters OK anyway, so
49:56
there's probably like a lot more reasons I do I do enjoy
49:59
exploring like new places and new cultures yeah and I I would
50:06
I would totally go to the the the places any of those places
50:10
yeah travel through the. Yeah, sure.
50:12
Fly over it. I'd I'd sail through it, I'd,
50:14
well, sail. I don't know about sailing.
50:16
You'd have to say like that. Just I mean like on a.
50:18
Sailboat. I don't know that I love the
50:20
idea of a sailboat. I don't like the idea.
50:23
Of a sailing, unless it was really.
50:24
Big then maybe? OK.
50:28
All right, anyway. That's just side, side banter.
50:31
But I, I think I'm in, I'd go to the Bermuda Triangle and just
50:35
because who didn't love the Addams Family?
50:38
If you're our age, I want to go to Devil's Island.
50:40
I don't even know where it is or if it's a real place, but I I
50:45
feel like if the the deep and abiding love of Gomez and
50:49
Morticia has a fond memory of Devil's Island, I'm in.
50:54
I would go there as well. So here's.
50:56
Did you learn anything? About Devil's Island, is it a
50:58
real place? It's.
51:00
Called the Devil's Triangle, also the Bermuda Triangle.
51:03
It's also maybe Devil's. Island is like Bermuda.
51:06
I don't. Yeah, I.
51:07
Really. I don't know.
51:08
OK, I. Wasn't.
51:08
Thinking on that, that plane, I don't know, I was I was really
51:13
trying to figure out more about, you know, the Bermuda stuff, but
51:18
so, OK, so you would go here's my thing.
51:23
I truly don't think it's UFOs, OK.
51:29
I don't think it's Atlantis, OK. I.
51:37
Don't think another. Dimension.
51:41
It's another dimension. I have.
51:42
Thank you for. Yeah, I knew where you were
51:44
going. I don't think it's that.
51:46
OK, we've ruled out. Three, it's possible.
51:49
About the methane gas, OK And water density just sinks your
51:53
ship? Just sinks your ship that.
51:54
Doesn't explain the. Airplanes, but OK, I don't.
51:58
Know maybe methane gas and what I don't know somehow does stuff
52:02
with weather with. Stuff.
52:05
I actually don't think like there really probably is a
52:10
problem. Like if they're if they're
52:12
saying, hey, it's no different, also terrifying.
52:15
It's a no different there than any other place at sea where
52:18
there's a lot of traffic, right, Because there are going to be
52:21
some places where no one ever travels.
52:23
And obviously if you're probably near Antarctica, I feel like if
52:26
20 ships got lost there or 50 planes, 1000 people like that
52:32
would be pretty astronomical because there aren't that many
52:34
people. But like, I, I, the math and the
52:37
statistics, the probabilities, it's like no different than any
52:42
other place. And I, I do tend to believe in
52:45
statistics and probabilities, but I, and also they're like,
52:50
cool, we'll ensure your ships like people aren't going to put
52:53
money on something that is like guaranteed dangerous, OK.
52:59
But I'm not. Willing to gamble that 1% of me
53:05
that thinks maybe there is something to it to this area, I
53:10
would not travel there the whole time.
53:12
I'd be like, there's nothing that's going to happen.
53:14
But like, what if it did? I'd feel real dumb on the other
53:19
side and people would would talk about me being like, well, she
53:23
didn't know how to sail. She didn't know how to fly a
53:26
ship. What is she?
53:28
Or fly a ship. I have no idea how to fly a ship
53:30
fly a ship fly. A ship she didn't know.
53:32
Fly a plane or you know, all those things.
53:34
It would be very easy to explain away those things.
53:37
But you know, like I, I don't want to be disappeared in the
53:40
ocean in the middle of nowhere. So you, I won't do it.
53:45
I won't do it. There's a little, there's enough
53:47
of a cautious person in me where I have 0 desire and I won't go
53:53
through the Bermuda Triangle. I'll go to Florida, maybe I go
53:57
to Bermuda, maybe I go to Puerto Rico.
53:59
But I would be like is it what's the path?
54:02
Can we steer clear of the Triangle because.
54:06
You know I. Just I don't want to risk it.
54:10
There have been weird things. I don't understand how a compass
54:15
doesn't work out of nowhere. I also don't understand how
54:18
compasses work. So like, you know, whatever I
54:22
do. But my point is, I was like,
54:24
goodness, say. Something and I'm like wait,
54:26
should I say something? Well, I couldn't.
54:29
Build my own compass. Okay, that's true.
54:32
But I, I feel like it's just not worth the risk.
54:35
I, I doubt very highly of any of the probabilities of the things
54:40
that people say that happen really have much to do with
54:43
that, that it really is just that much anywhere.
54:46
But given that information I have, we've talked about cruises
54:50
before and I've never wanted to go and I now never want to,
54:53
Never ever want to. Go.
54:54
Never want to go. Because if that's just the odds,
54:57
no. Thank.
54:58
You can I rebut? A little bit you could rebut.
55:01
Listen. You're OK.
55:04
If. If all of the ocean has the same
55:08
statistical problems, yes. I mean you have taken that risk
55:18
many, many, many times. That is before.
55:22
Today when I learned that the statistical probability is no
55:26
higher in the Bermuda Triangle than it is other where other
55:31
places, This is why I would not so if I said we're going.
55:35
To Mexico, you'd be like, I'm not flying over the Gulf of
55:37
Mexico. No, no, no.
55:38
Because here's the thing, I feel like, well, you better not look
55:41
up the. Gulf of Mexico because based on
55:42
your math, it's the same statistics.
55:45
Here's the thing. You've been in boats.
55:47
In the I've been in boats in the.
55:48
Pacific Ocean. Absolutely.
55:50
In the Gulf of Mexico, of course, I have in the.
55:52
Atlantic Ocean I. Have been in boats and.
55:54
I've actually enjoyed my time in boats.
55:56
This is I think for my own sanity sake, I need it to be
56:00
there. You have to contain it to.
56:01
The be moon so then you can continue to live your life in
56:04
interesting yes so make. That be the bad spot, so you
56:08
know that. I won't go there that.
56:11
Mathematically. Speaking you're, I mean.
56:15
Let's not talk in the wrong. I just want to be clear.
56:18
Yes, I, I. I and superstition.
56:21
Alone is keeping you from the Bermuda trend, I think.
56:24
I'm going to have to forget the mathematical way speaking in.
56:28
I'm glad for it. Because I I don't want to stop
56:30
going to places that are but I, I.
56:33
Don't. I mean, I've never wanted to go
56:35
on a cruise and I don't like being out in open water.
56:38
So there is that information. I want to know that the lands
56:42
that I won't ever make it to it, but I want to know that it's
56:45
nearby. I don't like that large open
56:47
water. Where sure.
56:48
Where you don't know. Where the land is, yeah, I don't
56:51
want to do that. I.
56:52
Want to be able to see it? Yep, just like.
56:54
At Lake Superior, I want to be able to see stop.
56:57
It OK for any of our international viewers just to
57:01
point out, Lake Superior is here in the continent of North
57:05
America. It's the largest freshwater lake
57:08
in the continent. You probably cannot see the
57:10
other side. It's like hundreds of miles.
57:15
Oh my goodness, we have taught our audience.
57:18
A lot today I feel like wow, that's.
57:20
A stretch we Well, we did have some good trivia, Some good we
57:25
did. And you know what else we taught
57:27
him? That triangle math is different
57:29
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