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Ep. 352: Hunting, Fishing, and Social Distance Socializing · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for
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  Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,
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  Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm
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  Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this episode number three fifty two,
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  Speaker 1: and today in the show, the Nine Fingered Wonder and
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  Speaker 1: I are doing some social distance socializing, simply kicking back
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  Speaker 1: and catching up, telling hunting, fishing, and foraging stories, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe even chatting with a surprise special guest. All right,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of the Wired to Hunt podcast,
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  Speaker 1: brought to you by on x UM. I feel well.
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  Speaker 1: Before I talk about how I feel, I got Dan
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  Speaker 1: Dan Johnson on the other side. I'm glad you can
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  Speaker 1: be here. Dan. I need I need some Dan Johnson
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  Speaker 1: in my life today. Well that's good. Why why do
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  Speaker 1: you need me in your life? Because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a rut? Oh or just this just this
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  Speaker 1: endless cycle of the same monotonous thing. And this is
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  Speaker 1: this is probably not unique to me right now, I
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  Speaker 1: gotta believe that a lot of people are kind of
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  Speaker 1: feeling the same way. Are you feeling this at all?
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  Speaker 1: A little bit but not too terribly bad. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I still get to go outside a lot. I've been
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  Speaker 1: mushroom hunting, I've been doing a little turkey hunting, and
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  Speaker 1: uh so that kind of throws a break up into everything.
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  Speaker 1: And um, I can't say that that's been the same
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  Speaker 1: feeling for me. So that's kind of good. That is good.
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  Speaker 1: And I've been doing the same things you've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: I have been much from hunting and turkey hunting and
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  Speaker 1: getting outside still some. But I don't know. It's it's
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  Speaker 1: like a very it's a very domesticated set of of things.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe it's just because uh kid life mixed
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  Speaker 1: with quarantine life has produced like a dampening effect on
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  Speaker 1: the excitement how to get out of some of these things,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Um, but it's definitely like I just
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  Speaker 1: had this feeling. Ah, I describe it just kind of
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  Speaker 1: this latent like wanderlust, like I just need to get
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  Speaker 1: out needed, just like I need that other And right now,
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  Speaker 1: it's just get up, do the routine, feed the kids,
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  Speaker 1: get your work done. Uh you get done with work,
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  Speaker 1: you clean the house, put the kids to bed. Then
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  Speaker 1: you're so tired. You finished off the last bit of
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  Speaker 1: work and then you pass out. Um and because of
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  Speaker 1: all this weird stuff going on. There's not like that
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  Speaker 1: thing necessarily the big thing to look forward to as
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  Speaker 1: much or I don't know, that's just that's just the
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  Speaker 1: weird place that that I find myself. I can't complain
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  Speaker 1: too much, but I will tell you this, I can
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  Speaker 1: agree with you when it's time to like, for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's time to start moving around. And I don't just
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  Speaker 1: mean driving a mile into the country to go look
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  Speaker 1: from mushrooms. I mean I need to do something big.
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  Speaker 1: I need to make a move. So, uh today, actually
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  Speaker 1: me and my wife rented a cabin up in Northeast Iowa,
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  Speaker 1: and so next weekend we're going on a little two
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  Speaker 1: day adventure with the kids up in Northeast Iowa to
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  Speaker 1: do some fishing, some hiking, um and just chill up
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  Speaker 1: in a different place. Very cool. Yeah, that's the kind
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  Speaker 1: of that's the kind of thing that we haven't been
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  Speaker 1: able to do for like two months here now, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think that is that is what I need. We
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  Speaker 1: are Michigan. I don't know how I owe you guys
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  Speaker 1: have not been under the same things, but we've been
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  Speaker 1: under stay at home since like March, and it's extended
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  Speaker 1: through the end of May. Yeah, I was talking to
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  Speaker 1: Indy May and he was telling me that even if
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  Speaker 1: you own a cabin up north in along the lakes,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people do, they're telling you you
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  Speaker 1: can't do that, even to go onto your own property. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they were saying that, and then about about a week ago,
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  Speaker 1: about a week ago, that was lifted. So now technically,
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  Speaker 1: if you have a place, you can technically go there.
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  Speaker 1: People are just being discouraged to do that. They don't
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  Speaker 1: want people traveling all over the state and possibly spreading
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  Speaker 1: things around here and there. Um, but it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: like a codified stance anymore. So I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. Man, strange times. Um, of course you want
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  Speaker 1: to do the right things. But um, but it is
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  Speaker 1: I think trying. It's definitely drying. Heck, parts of Iowa
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  Speaker 1: are opened up again, right, Yeah, a lot a lot
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  Speaker 1: of restaurants and restaurants and bars. I think some of
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  Speaker 1: them are operating under a smaller I guess if you
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  Speaker 1: you know, a smaller fire code, so to speak. They're
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  Speaker 1: they're they're cutting there admission or however many people can
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  Speaker 1: be in a building down. But my dad went out
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  Speaker 1: for breakfast the other day so, but he lives in
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  Speaker 1: like I live in one of Iowa's higher populated counties.
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  Speaker 1: So we're still under lockdown, like no restaurants. But I
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  Speaker 1: think May seventeen that's going to be lifted, so we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be back at it again here soon. It's gonna be.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so weird how normal things now feel so strange,
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  Speaker 1: like just going to the grocery store. Every time I
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  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, I feel like I'm in
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  Speaker 1: a like a movie. It's just so weird seeing just
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, life is weird right now. It's weird
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  Speaker 1: because here's one thing that I've noticed. I used to
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  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store or go out in public,
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  Speaker 1: I would smile and say hi to people. I find
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  Speaker 1: myself even walking around with my head down and just
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  Speaker 1: like don't avoid, like avoid avoid, avoid, don't talk, don't
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  Speaker 1: you know, don't I'm not afraid of going out into public.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just afraid of interacting with people, and whether that's
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  Speaker 1: through conversation or touch. I'm just like, I don't I
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  Speaker 1: don't say hi to people anymore. I don't smile at
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  Speaker 1: people anymore, which sounds rude, but everybody else is doing
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. Very true, It's just a very strange
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  Speaker 1: social dynamic and kind of this like underlying sense of
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  Speaker 1: an ease. I don't know, I'm just very I just
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  Speaker 1: I find myself over and over, like so many times
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  Speaker 1: I'll just look at my look at Kylie and be
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  Speaker 1: like I hate this, Like I just hate this thing,
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  Speaker 1: like worrying about I don't know, our groceries or something,
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  Speaker 1: or do we do we need to worry about this?
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  Speaker 1: Do we not need to worry abouts? Or worry about
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  Speaker 1: like when can we see the grandparents again? When should we?
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  Speaker 1: When should we not? Or you know, is it okay
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  Speaker 1: to still go turkey honey and be six ft away
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  Speaker 1: from someone? Is that okay? Um? Like all these things
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  Speaker 1: now that we have to think about um, And I
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  Speaker 1: realized it's it's a luxury to complain about it because
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  Speaker 1: I'm healthy and we're not dealing with the serious, serious ramifications.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't want to come off as if I'm
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  Speaker 1: you know, complaining too much. But yeah, there's still there's
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  Speaker 1: a silver lining mark, which is which is that in
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  Speaker 1: the grand scheme of things? Now here is what I've read. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: according to some source, I don't. I don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know what where I read it at. But hunting
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  Speaker 1: and fishing license are up nearly three million people so
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  Speaker 1: far in two thousand and nineteen, or excuse me, two
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  Speaker 1: thousand and twenty. So that's very interesting. I have seen
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  Speaker 1: different state I've seen different state updates mentioning that their
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  Speaker 1: sales are way up, and so I think that's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: But I wonder, yeah, I wonder, is this just because
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  Speaker 1: of the same thing that I did, which was early
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  Speaker 1: this in the spring, when the lockdown stuff first started.
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  Speaker 1: Some states started saying, hey, you know what, we're shutting
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  Speaker 1: down our nonresident hunting seasons were shutting down this hunting season. Um,
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  Speaker 1: if you already bought a license, you can still go,
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  Speaker 1: but no new licenses are being sold. So that happened
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  Speaker 1: in a bunch of states, and so as soon as
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  Speaker 1: I found that out, I was like, well, I better
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  Speaker 1: snatch up a license. So I bought a deer tag
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  Speaker 1: in one of the out of state places I want
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  Speaker 1: to go right away, even though I wouldn't have bought
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  Speaker 1: it probably until August. Instead, I bought it in April
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  Speaker 1: just to make sure I could still get one. Um,
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  Speaker 1: do you think maybe that's part of it. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think there's gonna be some There's gonna be some new people,
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  Speaker 1: right like, oh, man, I can't do anything, might as
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  Speaker 1: well do what I used to do and go fishing,
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  Speaker 1: right or things like that. But I have a feeling
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  Speaker 1: that people are probably just doing what you did and
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  Speaker 1: buying earlier. So we'll have to check back up on
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  Speaker 1: this at the end of the year to see if
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  Speaker 1: there was actually a three million person increase in hunting
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  Speaker 1: fishing licenses as opposed to people just deciding, Hey, well,
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  Speaker 1: I can't I can't go hunting now, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: go fishing, so I'm gonna buy my you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna buy my combo tag or I'm gonna buy my
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  Speaker 1: hunting license like four months earlier than I normally do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, if even you know, a hundred thousand of
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  Speaker 1: those are new people, that's that's great. Take them. That
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  Speaker 1: is that is a great silver lining. It is a
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  Speaker 1: one of those times I find myself often being like, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good time to be a hunter. Glad that
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  Speaker 1: I've got a full freezer, Glad that as things get
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  Speaker 1: increasingly different, we're at least set on that front. So yeah, man, um,
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  Speaker 1: strange strange times. But what I what I thought we
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  Speaker 1: could do today is is is socialized. Simply socialized, Simply socialized, Dan,
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  Speaker 1: because that's something I don't get to do anymore. We
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  Speaker 1: don't get to do it anymore. So sitting down for
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  Speaker 1: coffee and talking to your buddy isn't a thing anybody's
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  Speaker 1: doing right now, or at least most people aren't doing
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  Speaker 1: right now. Or sitting down and drinking a beer on
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  Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon together and talking and catching up about
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  Speaker 1: what we've been doing, that's like really unique right now. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So let's socialize and do that and catch up on
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  Speaker 1: what is going on with Dan Johnson and Mark Kenyon
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  Speaker 1: and our our outdoor world. Um, because there's turkey hunting
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  Speaker 1: to discuss, there's mushroom hunting to discuss, there's back forty stuff,
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  Speaker 1: there's fishing to discuss. I've got some outdoor kid questions
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  Speaker 1: to discuss, um, and then a few listener questions too
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  Speaker 1: that I've got here that we could touch on if
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  Speaker 1: we have time to UM. But yeah, I think we
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  Speaker 1: just need like a laid back catch up socialize with
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  Speaker 1: all our friends out there, you, me and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the listeners. Yeah, well I'm down. I'm down for that.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we're we're pretty good at bullshit and I, um,
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  Speaker 1: but if you're looking for me to kick this off,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something that I'm pretty excited about
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  Speaker 1: that I also did today and it's I started. This
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  Speaker 1: is crazy, but I actually started preparing for my season. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's quite quit the proactive approach. Yep. So do you
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  Speaker 1: want me to fill you in on kind of what
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  Speaker 1: what I've been doing for that. No, I'd rather just
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  Speaker 1: let's table that one until No. Yes, tell me, tell me,
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  Speaker 1: don't ask a question. I'm just gonna start, tell me more,
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  Speaker 1: tell me more. So as you know. UM, I think
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about this before, but I have a pretty
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  Speaker 1: decent collection of preference points for Wyoming, for antelope, for elk,
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  Speaker 1: and then I have um some some deer points as well.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm thinking that my plan is I turned forty
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  Speaker 1: in November, which means that next September I will be
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  Speaker 1: forty and going on an elk hunt in Wyoming. My
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  Speaker 1: plan is to cash in my uh some of my
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  Speaker 1: preference points. So I'm gonna be sitting with about seven
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  Speaker 1: preference points. And that should get me a really good
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  Speaker 1: unit in UH in Wyoming. And so today I bought
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  Speaker 1: a have you ever heard of go hunt? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I bought a membership to go hunt and I
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  Speaker 1: started the research process. Uh, what units I can get
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  Speaker 1: with seven points? What the draw odds are, what you know,
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Started looking at not necessarily maps yet,
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  Speaker 1: just the data behind specific units. UM. And I did
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  Speaker 1: that for a little bit for antelope and a little
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  Speaker 1: bit for deer, but mostly for for elk units, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think based you know, in a very a short
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  Speaker 1: period of time, I was able to whittle down to
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  Speaker 1: a you know, to maybe four units or five units
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  Speaker 1: that I can start doing more research into, like access
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  Speaker 1: and and taking a look on maps and stuff. So, um,
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  Speaker 1: I've started that process and it's kind of exciting. Did
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  Speaker 1: the dreaming, the dreaming and the anticipation that is such
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  Speaker 1: such a good part of it. Um, what part I know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to give away too much details, but
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  Speaker 1: what part of the state are you are most of
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  Speaker 1: these and anyone given part of the state that you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at or is it kind of spread all over?
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be in north central or northwestern like
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  Speaker 1: southeast of Yellowstone. Nice. Yeah, dude, that that area is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little sketchy though, oh yeah, because you get
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  Speaker 1: the grids, a couple of them, uh, and in there
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  Speaker 1: they say this is a Grizzly Bearer unit, so playing accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know if I am ready to do
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  Speaker 1: a grizzly bear hunt by myself, I would definitely go
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  Speaker 1: with someone who has more experience and more seasons with
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  Speaker 1: Grizzly Bears under their belt. But if it's just me
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  Speaker 1: and another rookie you know what I mean by that
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  Speaker 1: is a hunting with Grizzly bears rookie, then I probably
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  Speaker 1: won't select that that unit just for that period. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: just throws a whole different element into everything. Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: definitely does. Definitely does my um. I just bought an
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  Speaker 1: ELK tag for this fall um in Idaho again, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm in a grizzly unit for the first time, and
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  Speaker 1: so I'll be I'll definitely be thinking about that a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. But but yeah, it's the one. The
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  Speaker 1: downside is, of course, you have to be very very
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  Speaker 1: careful in a lot of ways. The upside is that
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people think what you just thought there
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  Speaker 1: and so don't choose that unity so you get slightly
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  Speaker 1: less pressured animals, more opportunity that kind of thing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: But that that southeast area of Yellowstone is stunning country. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, just as far as the landscape I've I've
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  Speaker 1: done some backpacking and hiking in there. It is some
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  Speaker 1: of the coolest country in the world. It is so cool. Um. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And while I'm out there, you know, like, so this
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  Speaker 1: this whole this whole plan, right is for my fortieth
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  Speaker 1: year to be this epic year full of hunting where
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna probably try to fit in another Western hunt
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  Speaker 1: out there as well. I'm probably gonna do my South
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  Speaker 1: Dakota hunt that'll happen in October. I might try to
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  Speaker 1: do you know, I'll do an elk hunt in September,
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  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna probably I might try to do
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  Speaker 1: it antelope archery hunt early September or late August. Even
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  Speaker 1: so if I can spread it out evenly, I can
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  Speaker 1: make my my footprint away from homes seem less. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but
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  Speaker 1: like it just won't seem like I'm gone. Yeah, not
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  Speaker 1: as impactful, not as impactful. Right, so I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 1: that whole thing. That's amazing. I I'm curious about one thing.
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  Speaker 1: Did you do you know this? I can't remember off
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  Speaker 1: the top of my head. What's Wyoming's party application deal?
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  Speaker 1: Do they allow party applications? Do you know? I think
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  Speaker 1: they might? You know, I think they might. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: look into any of that yet. Um, but yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they did. I don't know, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I can't say for certain. So I asked because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not gonna invite myself on your trip.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do that to you. But if
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  Speaker 1: you need another guy, and I know we've exchanged a
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  Speaker 1: few texts, like very high level on this, but but
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  Speaker 1: the Wyoming elk thing is is high on my list
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  Speaker 1: of of hunts I want to do. So if you see,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing is I think I only know three,
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  Speaker 1: you only have three? Yeah, So the question started applying
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  Speaker 1: before me. Did you like forget a couple of days?
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  Speaker 1: I forget I forgot some years. And so that's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: So if the party application, if if if you end
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  Speaker 1: up needing me, um wanting me to come along, if
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  Speaker 1: it worked out. The party thing would be. The question
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  Speaker 1: would be, is if we apply as a party with
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  Speaker 1: that default to the highest point owner or the lowest
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  Speaker 1: point owner, because I wouldn't want to hurt your chances,
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  Speaker 1: but if it would help my chances not hurt yours,
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  Speaker 1: that'd be a good thing. So I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how it works. I can't remember. Yeah, definitely something
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  Speaker 1: to look into. I look at look at us, Look
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  Speaker 1: at us smart We're making were socializing and making making plans.
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  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's the thing that you miss out
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  Speaker 1: on when you can't sit and have a beer coffee
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  Speaker 1: with your buddies. And because these things just don't come
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  Speaker 1: up when you're off running around doing your life, it's
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  Speaker 1: hard to like just talk through stuff. You finally get
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  Speaker 1: on the phone, you finally sit down and you're talking
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  Speaker 1: and thinking, oh we should do that. Um yeah, God,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like such a little child that's been locked
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  Speaker 1: in my room all day. I feel have been grounded
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  Speaker 1: for months and I just want to go and play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, Um, so then let's say this all
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  Speaker 1: works out right. I got a buddy who lives in
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  Speaker 1: Colorado who told me he will literally come up and
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  Speaker 1: call for us. And that's all he'll do is he'll
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  Speaker 1: be a he'll pack it, help Pep pack out, and
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  Speaker 1: he'll call for us. Got the pros? Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the Wyoming, the Wyoming elk is is a trip of
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  Speaker 1: a lifetime for a lot of people. That'd be pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Um what so? So that's one is the elk, the antelope,
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  Speaker 1: and the mule deer. And then this year you're still
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  Speaker 1: doing Michigan whitetail and all your plans still sounding like
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be staying the same or has this uh
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: that will change? Is okay? So I was gonna do um,
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I think I told you this. My buddy um uh
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: New York. He came last year with me on the
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: South Dakota mule their hunt. He wasn't gonna come this year.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: They had to change some Montana elk hunt plans to
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: next year. So he's gonna he's probably not going on
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: as as Montana hunt, so he's gonna come with me.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: He's already purchased his license and got the tag and
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: everything for the South Dakota hunt again. So I don't
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: know what we're gonna be shifting if we're gonna push
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: if we're gonna push it back another week, our our
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: South Dakota Elk or Mulier hunt back a week, or
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if I'm gonna just flip and go muleer hunting opening,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, right away October one, and then just come
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: up mid till late October for my Michigan hunt. So
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I'm still planning on do it. I just have. It's
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: just it's just a matter of scheduling it right now,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: all right, as long as as long as it's scheduling
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: and not shifting entirely to New Year's Yeah, I'll probably
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: get a death threat if I back out in Michigan
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: this year. That's the best thing about getting someone to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: commit to something on air on the podcast. You really
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: liked it. Um, that's uh, that's exciting stuff. So what
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: about the term what're you gonna say? Yeah, I was
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: gonna say, so you bought your Idaho. Um, you're a
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: tag for Idaho already for elk. Yes, So I bought
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: an Idaho white tail and Idaho elk tag for this year.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: So that's that's new for me. I've never white tail
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: hunt in Idaho, so I'm gonna do that for the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: first time. Um, because I couldn't I drew. I applied
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: for a Montana white Tail tag and I didn't draw
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: for the second year in a row. So that was
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: surprising and disappointing. So I thought, I'll try somewhere different, Idaho.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: We're gonna give that a shot. So yeah, I'm excited
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: about that in a new elk. You and I'm gonna
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: try somewhere different than when where you and I went. Um,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: so excited to check out a new area. I was.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I was talking to a buddy who um he hunts
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: eastern uh you know, in that quote unquote Grizzly zone
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: of Idaho, and he said that the unit that we
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: hunted is now considered Grizzly Bear territory. They've expanded into
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that unit. Yeah, I've I've I've thought and wondered that
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: they either were there and really light numbers. It would
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: be at any any time now because it's right there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: You know, it's close. There's there's a small highway kind
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: of that separate separates that mountain range from another mountain
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: range that's obviously Grizzly territories. So yeah, gorgeous country, but
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: they're in there. But yeah, so Western I'll get my
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Western hunting in September, and then October a bunch of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Michigan stuff. November a bunch of Michigan stuff. December, maybe
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: do New York. Um, but who knows, I don't know.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I sure hope that all this stuff doesn't impact things
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: in the fall. Again, Yeah, I can't see it. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: can't see it. I mean, number one, hunting. The only
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: way I can see this affecting fall is big, giant
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: groups of people doing something right. Whether you're an outfitter
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and you have a lodge where you know everybody gathers around, right,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that may be an issue. But I don't see hunting
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like me wanting to go out of state and camp
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: out of the back of my truck as a problem. Yeah,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I agree. I mean that's about as socially distanced and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: safe as you can get it. Yeah. Uh yeah, yeah.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I hate keeping on bringing that up, but it's one
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: of those things that keeps on like it's not this
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: weird filter they have to look at everything through. Yeah, yeah, whatever,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: that's what I say. I'll just cross that bridge when
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I get to it, and um, if not, I guess
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I'll just, I don't know, do more efficient hey, speaking officient,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: speaking of fishing. I took Everett out, bought him his
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: first fishing pole this past weekend and took him out
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and he caught his first fish. Wow, it's very cool,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: very cool. You gotta kick out of it, he was.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: He wasn't really he really he got a kick out
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: of it. But he'd be reel it in and then
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: he'd stop and just be like pointing at it. I'm like,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: real it in, real it real, and then he kind
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of reel for a while and then he kind of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: looked at Daddy and he's like, Daddy, do you know
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you gotta do it? So there's there's some of that
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: figuring out stuff. Mean, he's only too but but he
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: reeled in. I think we got like, I don't know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: six or seven probably he reeled in a few of them,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: and I was touching him. He wanted to kiss one,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and uh, all that good stuff. So it was it
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: was cool. It was a great milestone for us. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: can remember my daughter's first fish. Now. Of course I
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: had to cast it for her, but she was able
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: to reel it in when the bomber went under, and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: oh man was the smile on her face and I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: have a picture of it is something and it's it's
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: framed around here somewhere. I haven't hung it up yet,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: but it is. It is. It's one of those moments
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: where you know that as a father, you've done something
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: right and and you've made her happy through something that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: you love to do too. And I got I was
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: so jacked. I was like, it was almost like if
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: she would have shot her first deer, right, So if
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: I'm acting like that with a blue gill, and what
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: is going to happen which she actually shoots her first deer,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I'll probably pass out. Well, you know what's funny is
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the one not the one cool thing, but one of
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: the cool things about doing this stuff with little kids
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: is it re excites you about simple things that didn't
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: used to be exciting. So a little like catching bluegills
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: two years ago would not have been high on my list,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: But right now that sounds like a hell of a
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: good time for this weekend. It's so much fun because
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: because Everett is getting such a blast out of it,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: or just walking around and picking up turkey feathers doesn't
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: sound a whole lot of fun, but right now, ever
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: would geek out or he literally, he's his new thing.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Last week. He's so into turkeys right now. I took
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: out my turkey decoys and put him out in the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: yard and then had him come walk out, and he
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: just freaked out when I saw the turkeys all over,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and then when he realized he could carry them around,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: then it was just all done. So he wanted to
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: carry his turkey everywhere he went all day. He brought
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the turkey to dinner, and I don't know, I probably
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: made a mistake and letting him bring the turkey to dinner,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: but he brought the turkey decoy and put in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: chair next to him and fed the turkey decoy while
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: we're eating. But then when I finally had to take
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it away, I was like, I'm not gonna let him
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: sleep with it. I didn't clean it off all that well,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: so I started thinking, gosh, maybe I think maybe I
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: should have checked in the k nooks and cranes and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: make sure there wasn't something in there because I was
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: sitting outside. Um, so I was like, I would better
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: take this away. And then when I did that, of course,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: epic meltdown because I took away his turkey. Um, I'm
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: constantly making the mistake of giving him things that wouldn't
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: have and then I happen to take him away. Uh,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: that's that's being a dad. But yeah, man, it's just
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: like going for walks in the woods are such a
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: huge deal right now. He gets all he wants to
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: do is go for a walk, Go for a walk,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: go for a walking and get out there. He's got
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: to have his turkey calls. He's just he's like, turkey call,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Turkey call Dad, Turkey call and get him his turkey calls.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And then he just wants to walk through the fields,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: clucking away on his slate call. And that's that's a
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: great day for him, and that's that's a great day
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: for me right now. So I definitely know what I'm
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: getting my youngest son for Christmas this year, and that
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is I'm gonna go out to a gravel road. I'm
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: gonna get a five gallon bucket and I'm just gonna
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: fill it with gravel and then I'm gonna take him
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: to anybody of water, a creek or a river or
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: a lake and let him throw rocks and watch the splash.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: The kid just takes a rock, he'll throw it. He'll
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: watch the splash and then he'll go that's what he
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: loves to do. And I'm just like, you know what,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I wish life was literally that simple, right, just getting
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a kick out of throwing rocks. Man, it's good. I
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: guess those those kids are good for us in that
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: kind of way, right, simple things. Yeah, that was funny.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: At the end of our fishing trip last week, the
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: same thing. I was trying to catch more fish, and
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: ever started going to rocks and just started throwing rocks
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: every time I was there's some little girl, right, there's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: some fish, and then he's chuck a rocket. Yeah, so
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: turkeys fish. Have you been turkey hunting? I've been what
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: four four times? How's it? Good times? How was it?
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: First day I brought my daughter. We were out by
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: seven thirty in the morning, and then we drove around
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and did some cool things. Uh. The next morning I
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: went out by myself. Uh. They were gobbling in the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: trees and then the second they hit the ground they
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: were done. And then my wife called and says Mac
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: wants to come out. So I went came back into town,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: picked him up. Uh, and then we just walked around
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: public land and I hated him. The slate call and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: just said, okay, buddy, here you go try to make
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: some noise. And uh, you know, I didn't even bring
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: my boat with me. I just we just kind of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: walked around. That lasted for a little bit until the
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: snacks were done. And then then that following weekend I
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: went out, Uh, same scenario, dude. They were gobbling in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the trees and then they hit the ground, go quiet.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: And then the next time I didn't even hear gobble.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And the entire morning I walked around, you know, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: went on some public ground. I stopped at a couple
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: uh parking lots because there was guys coming out of
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the timber and I was talking to them a little
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: bit just to see, you know, are you hearing anything.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They're like, no, man, it's been a kind of a
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: weird year. And whether it's low numbers or maybe the weather,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's just they're going bananas like
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: they usually do. Has it been just cold and wet
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: and credited by you guys too, you know, lower temperatures
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: than normal, but not so low. I mean we had
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: one day where it snowed, right, but other than that,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and and tonight is supposed to be low in the twenties.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: But other than that, I don't feel like it's been
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a crazy cool. It hasn't been hot by any means,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: but it hasn't been crazy cool. I feel like this
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: has been one of the just lousiest spring weather periods
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: we've had here in Michigan in a lot of years.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Just we've had one nice day that I was out
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: in shirt sleeves or short short sleeves all spring. I
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: can thing maybe two. Um, and it's freaking halfway through
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: May almost Yeah, it's killing me. I feel like I
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: live in Canada or Alaska or something, right, So I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna go out and get another shot
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: this this weekend? Um, I think tomorrow or yet today's
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Saturday or Friday. So tomorrow morning I'm gonna try to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: go out and get her done. But man, I'm not.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: You know, I bought my bow tag because the shot
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: there's four shotgun seasons in Iowa. And I brought my
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: bow tag because I didn't know when I was going
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: to be able to get out, so I might as
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: well use a weapon that I can hunt more days. Right,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: So I brought my bought my bow tag, and you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: obviously I would have changed, you know, it would it
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: kind of limits me from going crazy running gun style
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: like I would if I had a shotgun. But um,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: they just they didn't come to the decoys. They're they're quiet,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and then I don't know, I made the decision instead
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: of going after them, to just kind of go back
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: home and do other things. Have you done? Have you
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: bow hunted for turkeys other years? There's a usually shotgun
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: mo us to the time, a shotgun only because we
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: have our turkey camp every year and we do it
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the second season in Iowa and it's a four or
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: five day it's a five day window, so we do
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it because you know, it allows us to be more mobile. Yeah,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: definitely helps, that's for sure. Yeah. So I don't know
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: how about you? What have you even been out? So
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I went from my first hunt today actually, so today
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: was the first real hunt I have gotten out, but
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: just without a weapon. Um, because what we're trying to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: do is we're trying to film a turkey hunt in
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: the back forty um for the show, but we haven't
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: been able to do that because of all the regulations.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: So we just were able to get clearance to do
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: it as long as it's socially distanced properly and just
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: do everything by the book. Um, we got the green light.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So we went out finally today with a gun for
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: the first time, and uh, you know, had one got
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: one strutting around gobbling a little bit. It was really windy,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: so he couldn't hear much. Um. But he was on
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: one side of a hill and just would not come
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: the rest of the way, so he probably got him
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: within fifty sixty yards but could never could never see him. Yeah,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I could see him, um, But basically the only thing
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I could do was work out into a wide open field.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I had a property line on one side of me.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: The woods was the property line. Field was out to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: They saw myself as open field and I was just
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: kind of stuck. Um, so we gave a shot. I
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: kept on trying to belly for all closer and closer
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and shut up for a long time, and then gave
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: it to him real hard and different types of things
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: like that. And at one point he came like at
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: one point I thought it was gonna happen, like he
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: shut up, there's nothing, and then I kept peeking over
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and then he was couldn't see anything, and there was
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: his back and he was slowly his head was down.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: He was pecking and walking towards us, and uh, all right,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: this is happening. I got set up and then he
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: was gone. He disappeared. So either he saw me when
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I was peeking at him and I didn't realize it,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: or he had just finally got bored and hopped into
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: the timber next to us and disappeared. I don't know,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: but but you know, it's funny. I've had a bunch
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of action when I wasn't trying to shoot him. I
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: had I've gotten a number of turkeys within range when
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I wasn't actually hunting. So that's how it goes. Um,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: you're right there, chief. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. I thought
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I shut my volume off. No, you're good. It's funny.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: It's funny Spencer. I did a podcast with Spencer a
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and he had a frog in his
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: throat the whole time, and so he coughed a lot
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: during the episode. But he tried to do what you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: just tried to do, So he tried to shut off
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: his mic every time he had a cough, but it
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was happening in the middle of him talking, so he
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: would be in the middle of a sentence and then
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: he would just stop talking, and then I would think
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he is freight he thought he ended his phrase. So
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: I would start talking as if, like, you know, to
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: jump in on the conversation, like ask him another question,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: and then he would un mute and big oh no, no no, sorry.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I just had to cough, and then he tried to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: get back into him. And so throughout the whole rest
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: of the conversation that was going on, and I never knew, like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: am I supposed to talk now or is he just coughing?
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And it was the most awkward thing because of that.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Throughout the whole thing, we were either talking over each
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: other or both of us not talking because we were
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: waiting for the other person. It was fun. I think
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I was talking about the turkeys. I called in eight
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: jakes that came walking. I was like on the ground
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: at eight Jakes walked within like four ft in me.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: That was really cool. Um called in one goaler I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: could have shot that same day, I had another one
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: come in that was probably right in the edge of
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: my range if I wanted to shoot. So there's been
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a lot of gobbling. I've been getting out a lot
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: of mornings and other days I've gone out with Everett
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: late morning, just take him out there and we would
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: just try to call one in just to have him
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: hear some gobbling and he loves that. Had birds coming
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: in and every time they see him moving around and spook.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: So that's been something we have to address once he
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: actually starts hunting. Um, but I've been hearing a lot
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of goblin. I go on these, you know, my morning runs,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: and here in tons of them gobblin on the roosts,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of course, so no storage of hearing them. But like
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you said, hearing I'm shooting was a two different things. Yeah,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: are you do you get frustrated when it comes to turkey?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I mean the same amount of frustration as white tails.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Oh no, wait different, It's so much lower stakes. I feel.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, you know, it's fun. We gave a shot,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: didn't come together. Oh well we'll try again another time. Um,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's the same way with me. I'm just like I'm
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: gonna go home. Yeah. Yeah. Today it was like we
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: hunted until I don't know, ten thirty or eleven, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I thought we could keep hunting, but let's let's just
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: go back. I'll see the kids, help them with lunch,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: get back to work, do some things, and there's something
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: nice about that. Just that's different sense of And I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: know we've talked about this in the past. It's nice
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to have that different feel because white Tail, at least
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: for me and I think for you most of the
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: time too, it's it's so intense. We're really trying to
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: be so buttoned up in our approach and what we're doing.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: That then when it comes to turkeys, you can relax
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: a little bout the bummer. And I hate to go
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: back to this, but the bummers that usually turkey hunting
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: so much fun because the social aspect too, all right,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: going on with buddies, turkey camp. We we have a
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: turkey camp here usually in the spring and my local
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: buddies and stuff will get together, and all that had
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to be canceled and just not the same, not the same.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: So is there a law because you mentioned something about filming,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: like it is like social distancing, right, is you're a
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: guy walking around with a ruler saying, oh, you're not
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: six ft apart now I gotta right you fine, Like
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: you mentioned something about having to film and making sure
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that you could do it. And get approval for it
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: or whatever you said. And now because you can, now
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: you can film, right, So I don't know. We just
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: had to make sure we're all buttoned up as far
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: as the guidelines. And you know, in Michigan's all, you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: non essential workers are supposed to be going and doing things.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Non essential travel is it's supposed to happen. Hunting is okay. Um,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: certain applications are okay. But the question was can we
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: film doing some of these things? So we had to
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: go through a bunch of legal not legal but you know,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: just make sure we're doing it by the book, checking
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: off with the authorities, just to make sure that we're
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: doing the way we're since we're doing it. Yeah, so
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, New World, New World were living.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: But you went out mushroom hunting too, right, Yeah, trying
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to do some mushroom hunting. Um, I don't know what
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I'm doing. I've never really taken mushroom hunting seriously, but
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: this year I'm trying to. So last weekend I didn't.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I went and walked around a bunch and hit some
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: spots that thought looked good under dead trees and everything,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: and found nothing. So went out again. It looked just
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: a little bit last night and found one, and then
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: did some more looking today and found none. So I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if it's still too early here because the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: cold weather or what, but I'm I'm striking out pretty
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: bad so far. Yeah. You you seem to do well. Yeah,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I mean I went out and I found enough for
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the whole family to eat off a batch. I think
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I found fifteen of them, twenty of them, which you know,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: cut them in half and now you double that for
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: a little appetizer or part of your meal. So we
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: had steaks and we had no we had we had
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: grilled chicken and fried mushrooms. And then I went out
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: yesterday and found three. So I don't know. I'm I
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: don't do it. Like there are people out on this
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: public land where I've watched a guy have a YETI
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: cooler full of mushrooms, like this is this must be
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: what this guy does, and he has he has all
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the places picked out, he's been doing it for years.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I remember walking up to him one time and I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, um uh, mushrooms out yet And
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: he's like like he looked at me kind of funny,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: like what are you trying to get out of me.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna take ship, like stay away from me.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: And he's like, and I didn't notice that when I
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: was talking to him, and uh I, I said, uh yeah,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I got a spot over here. I found a couple.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just basically trying to talk to him.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, okay, all right, yeah, yeah, like not
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: giving me any information, really not not really talking to me,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like he's just suspicious. So why is this guy talking
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: to me like? I think he felt like I was
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: trying to get something Anyway, I turned around to walk
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: back to my truck, and I look in the back
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: of his truck and he's got three coolers, one so
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: full of mushrooms that he can't even shut the lid
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: on it. And yeah, and then there's two other ones
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: in there. So I didn't know if he had him
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: full or not. But this dude was slaying the mushrooms
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: and uh he I don't know. I mean, that's a
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: lot of mushrooms. I'm sure he was selling them, you know,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: selling some of them, because I got a dude couldn't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: eat that many mushrooms. You probably packed in a pretty
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: nice hall of cash. After that. Yeah, but I think
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: a morele mushroom you can get twenty two dollars a pound. Yeah,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: as I understand it. You know, there is based off
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: demand at the time and supply or whatever. But yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: it sounds like you can do pretty good if it's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: the right time of year or whatever. What if what
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: were the spots even finding them so far this year?
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: So coming off egg fields? Um, you know, like if
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: if a low spot continues into an egg field and
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: then it hits the timber line, and then that low
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: spot continues into the timber line, the soil is always
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: more moist in there, and it always seems to be
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: thicker because uh, fertilize, you're drained off. And you know,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: obviously the first ten yards of any field edge is
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: gonna be thicker regardless, you know, just because of you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the sun hitting that field edge. So you know it's
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be thick in there. So and and what makes
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: this specific spot so good is not only doesn't have
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: that that moisture content in the soil, but it also
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: has like five gigantic trees that are in the process
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: of dying, and and they're big, old, and a lot
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: of the branches have fallen off of them, So it's
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: just like it's a wreck on the floor, and that's
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: where they're you know, the pheasant backs are growing in there,
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: the morales are growing in there, and that's where I
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: find them. Yeah, I saw you cooking up some pheasant
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: backs the other day, and yeah, I had just seen
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a couple of those in the woods when I was
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: looking for morrel's And I thought to myself, is that
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: one of these peasant backs? And I wasn't sure, um,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and then I saw your Instagram story. Those tastes pretty good. Yeah,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: So the bigger they are, the tougher they get. So
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: what I do is, if if you make a if
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: you make a circle with yours, let's just say your
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: middle finger and your thumb, that size of the mushroom
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: maybe the size of a baseball. Let's just say the
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: size of the baseball. Are the best you cut the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: stems off and then you gotta it gets from the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: it's a shelf mushroom, right, so from the tip all
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the way to the back, and then maybe like one
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: third of the way back, you cut that off to
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: where it connects to the stem. So then you basically
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: have this c shape or a half circle shape, and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: that is what I cube up and eat because if
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: you the further back from the edge you get, the
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: tougher it gets. But if you if you ride that
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: first third. If I'm making sense here, I think that
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the first two thirds from the tip in, then that's
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: when they're chewy and you cook them and they're good. Man.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I I I chopped mine up with some onions and
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, sautata saltata with onions and pheasant
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: backs and UM made an omelet out of it. That's
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: that's my go too. With those things. They have to
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: tell you what if you do it right, would even
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: be good with like butter and garlic pasta, It would
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: be good with um if you had enough of them,
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: maybe put them on a hamburger with you know, some
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: kind of cheese or something I don't know, maybe not cheese,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: but like some type of chutney. If that makes sense,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: you could make us. I think it would be really good. Yeah.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I need to, um, I need to go and try
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: to see if those are still out and if they're
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: decent size or not the ones that I saw the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: other day. Because yeah, because now that I know what
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: they are, I'm intrigued. Yeah, I tell you one one
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: thing that I've really been interested in lately, not necessarily
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: just mushrooms, but other plants and animals that you can
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: eat in the forest. Such, it's like what, oh like
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: different different plants, dandelions or the first thing that come
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: to mind. Right, you can eat dandelion leaves like let
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: us I mean the ship they sell them in the store, right,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: but you can go out and get them online. There's
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: certain types of parsnip that you can eat. So it's
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: just it's something to do, you know, Like I love
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: shed hunting, I love mushroom hunting, and what are those
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: two things have in common? You're looking for something, right,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: So I want to look for other food sources and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know in the woods. Yeah, I feel like right
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: now there's a lot of people thinking the same thing.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why I thought to take up mushroom
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: hunting the spring, because I need something to do and
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: finding food out there. I mean, like you just said,
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it's a natural next step. It's funny you bring that
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: up though, because I saw someone I can't remember who
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: it was, someone I know on Facebook had gone and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: found a bunch of dandylions and deep fried them. Have
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: you ever seen that? H so literally, it was like
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: taking a mushroom, putting it in batter and dropping the fryer,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: except for he did that with dandylions, like the yellow
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: part of the flower, the flower dandylion flower dipped in breading,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: dropped into a fryer, and then plucked out. I had
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: no idea what that tastes like, uh, but it was.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It seemed kind of bizarre to me. Did that person
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: say it was good? You know? I don't. I don't.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: I don't remember tell you the truth. I'm trying to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: think about, like what the caption was. I don't even
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: know if I read the caption. I think I was
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: just so taken back by the picture and like, really
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: they did that that? Uh, I don't even know. I
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: guess I should go back and try to find that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and see. Yeah, I don't know. I uh, it would
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: be funny if the caption was, just like I wonder
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: if any suckers try this, well, you know, in states
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: like ours, Michigan and Iowa, you up anything in the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: deep fryar. It's good to go brown like brown food,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: right right. I've heard that's the Midwest. You know, you
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: asked me the other day. I think it was what
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Michigan's food like special food tradition is, and I think
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's probably probably that brown food just just just fried
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it up anything. You know. Someone reached out to me
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and said that smoked fish was another one that is
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a Michigan food that is a good tradition, which I
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: that's I can agree with that. That's let smoked fish
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: out here is uh, let's see is Iowa see Iowa?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I mean there's there's a whole bunch of different, uh,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I guess cultures that have come to the United States
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: and settled. You know, like certain parts of Wisconsin have
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: like a huge Polish you know community, and therefore that's
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: why they have a lot of smoked meats, right, like
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: sau sausages and stuff like that. Now, Iowa is Norwegian.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Norwegian and a lot of German
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in Iowa. I'm sure that's all over the place, you know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: in the United States. But you know, in the church
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I grew up in, it was a huge Norwegian and
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Swedish church. So the culture was so they had a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: at every potluckt they would have ludifisc and that's like
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: pickled herring or something like that, pickled herring. No, it's
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: pickle herring and ludafisk are these two meals that they
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: always had at this And I was never brave enough
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to try the the ludifisk. But I think I don't
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: think they're the same thing. But the pickled herring I tried,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: and I did not, Like, Yeah, what does that taste like?
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, just like sour fish. It's been
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: a while, it's been a while. It's just I described
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: it as not being good to eat. That's all I
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: need to know. I'm not gonna try. Some people love it.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: I know people love it like potato chips. I've never
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I've not been big into the pickled meats, pickled stuff
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: like pickled sausages and stuff you see people like sometimes
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: get a gas stations. Just not so I gotta share him.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I gotta share a college story with you. So it's
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: like there was we'd go to this bar called SuDS
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: in Cedar Falls, Iowa. Is on the on the college hill. Right,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: every every bigger college has an area where there's it's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: just like a higher concentration of bars, right, and one
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: of my buddies, like he would always get he would
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: always drink a little bit more than he needed to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: every night, and at the end of the night, we're
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: just like we would just convince him to eat uh
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: hard boiled pickled egg with hot sauce on it, and
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: every time he did that, he would give in, and
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: then every time he would put every time. Uh that
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: sounds disgusting. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like, I like
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: my self some pickled eggs when the time is right.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm I don't think I'm gonna do it after
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I chug you know, sixteen beers, okay, but what when
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: is the time right for a pickled egg? M I'm
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: gonna say maybe beer number three? Okay, So it's not
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: the first beer, right you you wanna you want to
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: enjoy your first beer, not the second beer, because I don't,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, maybe I'm not quite ready yet,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and I think that the third beer is like the
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: perfect time. It's just like, you know what, I'm feeling,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: feeling good now, feeling a little relaxed. My muscles aren't
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: tied anymore, my my knees are bending properly. I think
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a pickled egg with a little hot
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: sauce on it, and that's maybe some salt, salt and
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: pepper on it, and then there you go. I I've
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: never been there. I've never I've never been to that
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: moment on my third beer. But I'm gonna take your
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: word for it. Which what is your beer drinking snack?
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: You're not eating a meal right, Maybe maybe you've had
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: lunch and you're hanging with the boys and it's time.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: You know, you're cracking your beers. You start you know,
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: you're sitting around a fire, or you get back from
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: a hunt and you're not time to eat yet, but
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: you're just starting to starting to get into the beers.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: What's your snack? What? What is your beer drinking snack?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: It's been too long since I've had like sitting with
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: the boys drinking beers. Kind of time to tell you,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: But I'm I think back here, I'd probably say, like
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: I could throw it on some like chips, Give me
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: some chips and dip. Uh. If there's anything that you
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: could dip a chip into, I will hammer that. Give
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: me like a buffalo chicken dip or a chili cheese dip. Uh.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: You know. I'm a sucker for spinach artichoke dip too.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: I'm not too that's not too fancy for me. Um yeah,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: or salsa, I mean any anything. I love a dip.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: I love a dip in a chip. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: a nachos guy. I like I like me some nachos.
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: And it depends if you consider nachos a main course.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I personally don't consider nachos a main course, but I
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: have friends who would debate me otherwise. This has gotta
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: be our most pointless rambling episode I ever done, Dan,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know what. What do you like nachos? Better?
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Do you like? Just? Hey, I thought you said we
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: were socialized. We are socializing. This is this is great
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: for you and me. I just don't know if anyone
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: else is listening, doesn't matter, you know what, Hey, I'll
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: tell you what you gotta. You gotta just relax and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: go with the flow, okay, and just shake it off.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, what what what's gonna happen? Media or ink
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: is gonna call you in for a meeting and say,
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: all right, we've been reviewing your content, Mr Kenyan, and
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: it looks like you need to do less talking about nachos,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about deer hunting strategy during the rut
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: because that's where the ratings are at. Dude, when you
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: see a phone call from me coming tomorrow or next week,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you'll know what happened. Right, Hey, Dany got time to
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: do a rut honey strategy and me, oh man, that's funny. Yeah, dude,
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: it's right, you're right, you're right. I need to relax.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: It's okay, there's uh, there's probably plenty of other people
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: that just needed socialized too. So how long have you
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: how long have we been recording right now? Fifty one minutes?
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: One minutes. Do you think if we call further he'll answer? Uh,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: he would, But I don't think I know how to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: patch him in here. I mean I could put him
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: on speaker phone. Oh you're saying like over Skype. Yeah,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: call him up and asked, just ask him what he's doing,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: because that's one guy that, you know, if I had
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: more time in my day and I could just chat
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: with one person. Obviously there's a long list of people
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: before him, but it would it would probably I would
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: want to just check in with further and see what
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: he's doing. You know. I don't disagree with you. He's
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: a good guy to check in with. I don't think
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: he's gonna answer, but I'm I'm trying to calm right now.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: We'll see if Josh is available. He's he's uh, he's
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: staying busy, cutie may stuff. As far as I know, um,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you know need they need their support right now, as
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you can imagine. Um, a lot of conservation organizations are
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you know, without a funding source, so kind of tough
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: times for a lot of folks like that. So Josh
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: is definitely working hard to try to help there. Um. Hello,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: it's answer. Answer. It's unbelievable, oh man. But from the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: shittiest podcast ever to the greatest podcast ever, Welcome to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the wire Dum Podcast. Josh oh Man. Maybe I shouldn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: have answered, Hey, you're live, buddy, You're live. You are live.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: How are you doing? Yeah, I just got back from
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: a little walk with the family, So it's good. Good
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: gut got way out in the in the carrier and
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: got like a couple of miles in it's like a
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: modified heavy pack hike. Oh, you're doing some training, aren't you.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: I'm just just trying to get myself in some quarantine shape.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: That's good. Did you have you put on a quarantine
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: fifteen or anything that you're working off or is this
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: have you've been good and on your best behavior this
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: whole time? I'm actually like, um on the quarantine like
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: down fifteen. I'm finally losing all this baby weight. Whoa.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what we're doing. Maybe I think
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: it's just because I'm not eating out as much on
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: the road and all that kind of stuff. So it's
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: called stressed buddy. Yeah, well, yeah, that's probably a big
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: part of it. I gained twelve pounds in the first
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: five or six weeks of the lockdown, and it's because
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: I was in charge of grocery shopping now, so literally
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I would go to the grocery store and because it's
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: like a depressing time and there's nothing else to do,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I need something good in my life now.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: So I bought chocolate cake about or I bought it
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: was like it was like going to deer camp. Everything
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: I saw that I want, I'm like, all right, I'm
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: buying it. I don't care I'm buying it. I'm buying
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: it dessert every night. Oh so hey for Dan Johnson
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: here whired to Hunt podcast. I want to ask you
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: a question when you're when you're sitting around having some
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: beers with the boys. What and not your children, but
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: like Mark and Corey and all those other guys, Um,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: what is your what's your go to snack? Too much?
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Not a main meal, not a main meal, but a
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: snack to eat while you're drinking beers. Oh well, I'm
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: drinking beers. I feel like I'm being set up for
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: something here. You're not, by the way. I don't know, dude. Um,
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've got a couple of different things.
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Like if we're like this wouldn't be drinking beers. But
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: if we're like road tripping, Um, I know this butterfilled pretzels,
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that's the road trip snack. You know. It's like his
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: wife won't let him eat those at home, Dawn, Why not?
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: She says, I always eat like half of the thing
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and then just they're just sitting our pantry forever because
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: I get like worn out on them, and they're just
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: like they're they're good like at home, not quite the
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: same like when you're on the road. Um uh man,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: just like sitting around, like hanging out like at deer
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: camp or something. Like, I don't know. I mean what
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of. We always just having junk
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: up there, man, like orioles or jerky or anything like chips. Yeah,
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: like salty like chips and salsa, that kind of stuff.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: The standard. Nothing nothing crazy. What do you think, Dan?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Do you prove? Yeah, that's all right. I wasn't gonna
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: judge him. I'm not you know, I'm not going to
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: venison shame in Mark like you did me the other time.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like you've done that a few times to you. Yeah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: you don't eat venison with every meal? Are you kidding me? Um?
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: Did you ever try whatever that idea was that I was?
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: It was convincing your wife to eat more venison by
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: offering up the money savings for vacations. Did you try that? No,
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: it won't work. It won't work. It's worth the shot. Hey,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: you know what, Dan, Josh, Josh has a turkey story
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: for us. He has actually killed the turkey. I don't
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: hear it better than two of we just me and
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: me and Dan just talked about how we can't kill
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: a turkey. Tell us how to do it, Josh, Well,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: it's a really short story. Um, it didn't take a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: whole long time, Dan, I've been wearing out Mark that
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: he hasn't had me on his uh his bonus turkey podcast.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yet I go out there and kill him an opening
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: morning and I don't even get any love. She's got
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: to bring it in all these experts or whatever. Yea
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: true now, So I opening morning of Michigan season. I
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: went out. It was actually like the first time I've
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: ever turkey hunted alone. We're usually we're doing like a
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: like a turkey camp or you know, we're getting together
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: some guys and and turkey hunting together. So this is
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: the first time I've ever gone out alone. And I
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: get there, I get to the property, Um, you know,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm doing pretty good on time. And
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: get out of my truck and start, um getting everything around,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: get my gun out of the case. And my door
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: doesn't close like like I thought I closed my door.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: So I close a little harder. I've got I've got
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: an F one fifty. It's like the aluminum frame and
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the doors like they're hard to close,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: they don't close quietly. Um, So I closed a little
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: hard and boom shot gobbles like close to the house,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: close to where I'm parked. So I had an idea
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: of where they were, and so I kind of did
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: this big loop around see something. And for some reason,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I just feel like that part is exaggerated. I just
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: I just had this vision in my head that instead
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Josh opened the truck door, got out and just slams
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the door shut and it sucks like holing. And and
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: then my uncle used to do that. My uncle used
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: to be My uncle used to pull into a parking
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: spot at public ground. We'd get out real quiet, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: he would slam the door as hard as you could,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: and that is what would trigger shot gobble. So I
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: believe you it's it's almost not a bad idea, you know.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: And and honestly, like I was a part like a
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: park at the house, um of his property. Um, And
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: so I think they're these birds, they just haven't been hunted.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know when the last time this place has
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: been turkey hunted, to be honest. So you know, I
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: had seen some birds like fly up into trees and
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: roost near the house, and I was deer hunting, so
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I kind of had an idea of where I wanted
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: to go. Um. I was just really surprised they're right there.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: So they're they're like right there. So I do this
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: little loop around. I sit down by tree, and I've
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: got birds and like all directions just going off on
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: the roost. I mean, they were just gobbling their heads off. Um.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: And it was cold, man, It's like there's still snow
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: on the ground um up here. So um, I just
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: did like a couple like real light little calling sequences,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: just let them know, hey, there's maybe a hen in
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: the area. And there's two times in this tree. And man,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: they flew down a little bit after daylight, and one
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: of them kind of stayed up on this little ridge
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: and he was he was strutting around, putting on a show.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: And this other one just came running right in and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I just shot him at like thirty yards and dropped him.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: And that was the end of my turkey season lasted
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: all about thirty minutes. Um, and I had pulled the trigger.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm going down. It's like pumped, and I was like, man,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: now I've got a month and a half of quarantine,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: but no more turkey tags. It's kind of like, oh man,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: what did I do? But now I was really pumped
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to get one, and uh, definitely like a little bit
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: of a confidence booster. Even even if I didn't do,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: uh have to do a ton for it, I felt
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: like at least did something right to put myself in
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: the in the right spot. So, hey, yeah, you eadiot.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Uh not yet, Nope, we just had that. We just
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: had a new recipe put up over on the Mediator website, Danielle.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: I think it was put together a Chick fil A
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: kind of replica recipe for turkey nuggets that looks very good.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I saw that. I think that one's on our list
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to try. Yeah. Uh, it's hard to beat turkey nuggets,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: one in one former fashion or another. I that's just
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: good old fashioned eating. Yepnood yep. Yeah, right back to that,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: daniel Right. Um. So, I have a couple listener questions
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: that I did want to try to get to, and
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: now you're here, Josh, it's particularly relevant. I think you're
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: willing to stick on answer a couple of these. Sure,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: i'll do. My best term is were you in your
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: office working or was in the middle hanging out with
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: your wife? No, I was in my office. I was
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: in my office trying to get some work done, and
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, I don't know if he's meaning
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: to call me, but I'll see what he's doing. It's amazing.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: It's the best luck I've had all year. But this
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: might be a segment. I know, we really should call
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: it calling further for the last quarter. Okay. So, so
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: Brock sent me a couple of questions here. He says
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: he's twenty eight and looking for a mentor for big
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: game hunting and conservation. He's really into this stuff, but
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: getting into it newly into it. Um, it's curious. First
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: first of three questions one, any suggestions for finding some
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: kind of mentorship. Number two, he's really interested and excited
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: about public lands, wants to support them. He's been trying
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: to get involved with TRCP and b h A, but
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: he'd like to know how he can get more involved.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: And then question number three, he's curious about how we
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: molded our careers as outdoorsmen and conservationists. How have we
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: gotten a job within this sector? Um? So all three
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: of us work within the outdoor world. We all, in
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: one former fashion, do some stuff with conservation and mentorship.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: But Josh, what would use what about question number one
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: when it comes to mentorship? Yeah? Sure, I mean really,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: my suggestion would be just to you know, connect with
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: any of the local conservation groups in your area, whether
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: it be Q D m A or b h A
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: or Pheasants Forever, Rocky Mountain ol Foundation. I mean, whoever
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: it is. You know, they may not have a specific
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: program going on in your area, but I'm sure they've
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: got people who are seasoned hunters and willing to take
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: somebody new out. And you know you could. You're probably
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: within a stone's throw of our ranch or a chapter
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: wherever you are in the country of one of those groups.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: And um, I would say you have a pretty good
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: luck of finding someone that be willing to take you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: out or show you, um some things or whatever, um
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: from from one of those groups. Yeah. I feel like
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: that's like the single best way these days, even just
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: if you want to meet some like minded like hunting
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: fishing buddies, if you move to a new place or
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: something like That's gonna be my new go to move
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: is just tap into whatever the local conservation ore is, chapter, branch, whatever,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: and and yeah, especially like b h A QT may
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: where they have all these local events going on. Um,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it's such an easy way to get connected. And then
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: you've got new friends, you've got new mentors, you've got
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: new ideas and opportunities and all those All those organizations
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: have like a website where typically can just go to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: their main like national website and do like find a
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: branch or a chapter and you can pretty much, you know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: filter down to your s an area and where things
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: are at, find them on Facebook, on the local groups
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: on Facebook. I mean, there's all all kinds of different
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: ways and connect locally with people. Okay, So speaking on
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: these same things, and let's go to the next one,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: which is how can I he specifically talked about public lands,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: but let's uh, let's expand it from public lands just
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: to overall conservation stuff in general. Uh. Given all of
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: your experience managing things for q D, may any other
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: advice other than just connecting with these groups to get
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: involved to do more. Um. I don't know what do
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: you see as some of those areas of weakness that
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: you guys need more help with it that b h
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: A needs more help with Because I don't know if
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: you knew this, Dan, But not only is Josh the
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: qum A regional director, he's also on the board for
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: Michigan's b h A organization as well, right, Josh H
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: multifaceted help out some of the hunt of recruitment stuff
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: on the board and whatnot. So UM, yeah, I mean
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I think the big thing is just a lot of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: people don't know, um what's going on or how to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: get involved. So one of the things I would how
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: would suggest that if you're not a member of those
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: groups that you um are interested in definitely becoming a member,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: get on their email lists. UM. You know, all these
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: groups send out uh like the blasts or email notifications
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: of different events or volunteer opportunities that are happening um
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: in the in your area. UM. They can all filter
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: down and and target specific areas where you know things
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: are happening. So make sure you join join their email list.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: That's the best way to stay up to date m
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: on what they've got going on, follow the local Facebook
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: pages or whatnot, and UM that would be my suggestion
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: on how to make sure you're keeping track of what's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: going on, Dan, Do you have any thoughts on those? Yeah?
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Other than I think my only insight would be to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: contact your local UH County Conservation Board. And these guys
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: are working on projects all the time, and they're looking
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: for volunteers all the time, and depending on if you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: what you're looking to provide, If you're looking to volunteer,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: you're looking to provide um, you know, money, They're like, hey,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: I got some money. I want to help, you know
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: with a project or whatever. Hey, I'm recording your podcast. Guys,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: get out of here. Get out of here. Shut the
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: door all the way. Sorry, best podcast ever, continuing past
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: down the toilet. You're not even recording, are you? No?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: This is never this is never going to air man.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: You stopped recording as soon as I answered the phone. Yeah,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, yeah, it just it depends on what
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: you what you're wanting to do, if you want to
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: give money or if you want to volunteer time. Um,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I would start at you know, at a
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: at a hyper local level with your county conservation board
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: because they're always looking for people to help do what,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: you know, do the projects. Um. Specifically in the county
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: that I live in. Recently, they drained the lake and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: they had to do some work on it, right, so
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: as they're filling it up, they were looking for volunteers
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to help plant underwater vegetation, so getting the mud and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: you know, and plant these plants, and then as the
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: water fills back up into this lake, then the plants
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: start to grow. So there projects are looking for volunteers
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: all the time. That's a great it's a great point.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: And those are probably the types of organizations, local, very
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: local county kind of things that had a little bit
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: harder time probably railing people to come help on some
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. Absolutely. Um. You know. The only thing
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: I would add on top of that, just unique to
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: right now is I've seen a lot of organizations like
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: Kutie May and others who usually have these in person
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: in banquets or pint nights or whatever that they depend
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: on for funding. They can't do those right now, so
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do virtual things, virtual giveaways, virtual you know,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: fundraisers more than usual, and um, and they're pretty dependent
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: on trying to raise some money right now to try
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: to keep people employed, try to keep the thing going.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: So I would just echo same thing that I know
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: all of us have been talking about. UM, if you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: have a little extra money, usually it's always like, hey,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: money is great, but don'tate time, um, because that's usually
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: in less supply. But I think right now a lot
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: of organizations. Organizations really do need money. So if you
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: happen to have an extra dollar two. I know it's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: tight for for everyone right now in different ways, but
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: if you can swing a little extra, I know, I'm
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: sure folks like you guys at QT may would leve
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: a little participation in those online giveaways, raffles or whatever.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Right Yeah, Oh for sure, Yeah, I mean, I mean, um,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: you know, nonprofit groups they're always running at you know,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: lean lean levels, and and you know, what's going on
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: right now has definitely had a had a big impact
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: on how we're able to you know, operate even just
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: on a daily basis with different in person events and
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: and like you said, there's not a whole lot of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: opportunities to be out there doing things right now, are
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: you know, gathering? Um so yeah, definitely right now. I mean,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: if you've got a couple of bucks to spare or
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: even just join as a member, it's um it means
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: a lot right now. Yeah, all right. What about the
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: last part of that question, getting a career within the
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: outdoor world. Um, I know we've had conversations like this
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: in the past, we've covered it, but is there anything new,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: Dan or josh I don't think I've ever gotten your perspective, Josh,
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  Speaker 1: Um I get this. I'm sure you guys all get
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: it to everyone, tons and tons of questions about how
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: do you get a job in the outdoor industry, how
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  Speaker 1: do you get involved in his career? Any new thoughts
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  Speaker 1: or different thoughts on that, um Dan, maybe that you know, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: I get asked all the time, and I'm sure you
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  Speaker 1: do too, Mark. You know, dude, I would love to
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  Speaker 1: do what you do. I would love to work in
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  Speaker 1: the hunting industry or whatever. This is if if you
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  Speaker 1: want consistent paychecks and if you want to have a
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  Speaker 1: secure income, this is not what you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's because, I mean, straight up, it's uh there there's
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  Speaker 1: times where it's struck. You know, you struggle, right, I
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: mean I this is a perfect example. You know, a
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  Speaker 1: lot right now, A lot of these hunting industry companies
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  Speaker 1: are having to hold their money in for you know,
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  Speaker 1: hold it in and uh, luckily, I you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing okay right now. But you know, if you're
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  Speaker 1: just new getting into it, make sure you have another
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  Speaker 1: job first, right, and then work your way up and
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  Speaker 1: and all that stuff. And this is nothing new, but
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  Speaker 1: start somewhere else, don't. You don't have to go to
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  Speaker 1: content creation right away. I mean, you can do what
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Josh is doing. You can do um. You know, whatever
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  Speaker 1: your background is, you can start a side gig doing that,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, if you have an idea for a
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  Speaker 1: product or whatever. There's a thousand different things that you
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  Speaker 1: can do. Two, get your foot in the door. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great point. Yep, Yeah, I would echo that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, anything you can do to network and and
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  Speaker 1: just meet as many different people as you can, um
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  Speaker 1: within that space that you're looking to get into. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's key. And and do what you can
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  Speaker 1: on the side and and kind of build that resume.
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  Speaker 1: And maybe you know, if you're looking to do what
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  Speaker 1: I like in the conservation world or whatever, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you look at volunteering with some groups and that's
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  Speaker 1: a great way to meet people. It's a great thing
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  Speaker 1: to have on your resume. UM. And then you have
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  Speaker 1: to be willing just to take a leap and and
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  Speaker 1: you know, go outside of your comfort zone if you're
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: in the you know, I was in the corporate banking world,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I was doing all right, and I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: just knew it wasn't what I wanted to do forever,
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  Speaker 1: and I just had to be willing to kind of
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  Speaker 1: go outside of my comfort zone and take that leap
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  Speaker 1: of faith. And man, I can't imagine doing anything different
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  Speaker 1: at this point, you know. Yeah, it's it's a lifestyle
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  Speaker 1: choice for sure in a lot of ways. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad it worked out for you. I think the only
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  Speaker 1: thing I would add, I would just echo something you
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  Speaker 1: just said, Josh, and just expand on it a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I think that, um, volunteering your time is a great
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  Speaker 1: way to get a foot in because this is like
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  Speaker 1: where there's a lot of people that want to work
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: in this world and if you can somehow offer your services,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it's a donation of your time, your energy,
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  Speaker 1: your ideas, your artwork, your photography, whatever. Um, if you
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  Speaker 1: can find a way to get your foot in the
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  Speaker 1: door in that kind of way, you know. Uh, that's
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  Speaker 1: that foot in the door is so important. The networking
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  Speaker 1: and the foot in the door is is so key.
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  Speaker 1: And then I think the networking is a little different
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  Speaker 1: right now because in the past, you know, networking could
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  Speaker 1: be going to these different conventions, it could be going
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: to various events, Uh, whatever. Now it's more virtual networking
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  Speaker 1: at least in the short term here. Um, So this
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: is when you're and I I don't know if I'm
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: hesitant to do this to say this or not, but
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: like your digital your digital presence is maybe more important
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  Speaker 1: than ever. Your who you are online is kind of
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: your resume in a lot of ways, and so thinking
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  Speaker 1: about that not as just like where you rant on
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Facebook to your friends, but also realizing that might be
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  Speaker 1: the one way that you're able to connect with someone
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: in the outdoor industry right now, or the one way
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  Speaker 1: you can build a connection with someone is through what
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  Speaker 1: you post and share on Instagram. So I would just
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  Speaker 1: if you want to get into this world and you
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: want to start connecting with other people, which I highly
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: recommend you do, that's happening digitally right now. So be
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: cognizant of the digital impact you have, what you're saying,
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: what you're putting out there, how you present yourself, um,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: and think about it more than just like your local bar.
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  Speaker 1: I guess might be what I would say, so different,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: different kind of angler. And at the same time, if
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: you do what you just said, I feel like whenever
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: someone new comes into the digital space, they instantly try
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: to compete on a nation level, on on a national level.
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  Speaker 1: When I feel that there is a market that's untapped
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: at a local level, on a super niche, on a
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: super niche level, to where let's say your county specific
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: or area specific, right, you know, maybe it's not nationwide,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: but hey, maybe it's Southeast Illinois. You know, hey it's
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: the Southeast Illinois something or other or whatever whatever it
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: is at a very hyper focused level. I think there's
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: there's value in that as well. And I'll tell you
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: up right now, I would listen to the Southeast Illinois
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: something or other podcast. Tell anyone that's a podcast, I
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: would click on. All right, last question and then uh,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna have to balance because I just
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: got a picture of a two year old that's not
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: wearing pants, that was pulling up my wife's jacket while
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: she's on a phone call. So, uh, if you yeah, right,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: just another day in our life. Just wait, I don't
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: know it's so hard about all this mind of sleeps.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: Just just shut up, hang up on him, hang up done.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: If if you had twenty bucks, in just twenty bucks
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: to buy a gift right now for our listeners. So
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: you got twenty bucks per listener, you can buy one
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: thing and we're gonna give it to everybody. Right now,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: what would you buy him, Dan, I'm gonna put you
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: on the spot. I'm gonna buy every one of the listeners,
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: and I have twenty bucks to spend. I'm gonna buy
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: him a thirty pack of bush Light. They have to
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: prove their twenty one first, but as long as that's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: the case, dirty thirty Yeah, alright, So we're helping out
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: with that digital happy hour that is that is the
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: post hunt celebration. Okay, is there a pickled egg in
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: there somewhere for him too? I think if you can find, uh,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: if you can find a thirty pack for like fifteen bucks.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm or maybe I don't even know what a
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: thirty pack cost, I'll be honest with you, probably close
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: to twenty bucks, maybe bucks, I don't know. Maybe it's
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: on discount. Maybe maybe I'm only getting him a case
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: of beer. But with the leftover money, I'm sure there's
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: a packet of pickled eggs you can buy as well.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: All right, that's a great gift for right now. Further,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: what are you buying with your twenty bucks. That that's
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: a tough one. That's a tough question. Um, if you
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: can get an acorn crunch for twenty bucks, No, there's
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: because they're not I don't think they're in production anymore.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: They're collector's items. I bet you like a hundred bucks
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: of pop. Yeah, man, man oh man, um uh, this
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: is you probably have a little left over. But if
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: I could buy one thing for everybody right now, I'd
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: buy them that Wild Country. I'm good, some good reading material?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? For? Are you how? How deep
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: is your nose? I'm just looking at that bookshelf here
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: and pop right up? But you gotta get it for
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: the back cover model. That's that's really where the that's
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: where it's at. Did you know that Dan josh is
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: that he is on the back cover? Congrat buddy. Yeah,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. Man. That's a that's a that's a really
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: hard question. Twenty dollars. I feel like you can get
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: a lot with twenty dollars, but you can't get a
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: lot with twenty dollars. Yeah, you know, I don't know
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: what I would say. I was going to say a
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: book too, but now I feel like a book suggestion
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: would be a cheap uh answer, given the fact that
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: you plugged mind so nicely. Um, but you can find
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that wild country at your local bookstore online Barnes and Noble,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: Amazon if you want to make in the outdoor industry
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: always grinding. Uh No, you know, I would buy a
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: Sand County Almanac for everybody. I can't think of anything
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: but a book, but that would be the book I
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: think i'd buy. So on that note, boys, I need
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: to end our little social distancing so socialization happy hour.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: So Josh, thanks for hopping on here in PROMPTU. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for the call. Good good to catch up, Daniel. Thank
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: you as always, be safe out there, have a good time,
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Good luck turkey hunting. Dan, let's do this again soon.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. I would talk to you guys later. All right,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for us today. I know this
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: one was kind of all over the place, but I
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: hope you've got a couple of laughs. Hope you enjoyed
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: this kind of bra from normal. I know that I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: needed this. Hopefully you did too. Hopefully you can do
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: something similar with friends of your own. And until next time,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: I hope you'll stay wired to hunt