Latest / I Am All In with Scott Patterson / You really got pucked in the head (S3 E15 "Face-Off")

Transcript

You really got pucked in the head (S3 E15 "Face-Off") · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

• 0:00
  Speaker 1: I am all in, want kiss you. I am all
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Let's
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: get started. I have a lot to say. I bet
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: you do. I got a lot to say this one. Oh,
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: I have a new idea. Adea, you start first, but
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I have a new idea of something I want to
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: do every episode. Now, all right, so you're gonna are
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: you gonna a You're gonna talk about it? Talk first,
• 0:42
  Speaker 1: You talk first, and then I'll tell you guys, I'm
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: gonna spring it on you. Oh my god. Okay, uh yeah,
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know this This episode was what can I say?
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: How can I in caps? Like, just Daniel, you want
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: to do the what do you do? The recap? Recap?
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: And then we'll get it. We'll dive into it. Yeah,
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: let's do it. Season three, episode fifteen, Face Off Air
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: date February two thousand three. Grandma Gilmore Okaytrix is in
• 1:12
  Speaker 1: town for a visit and it has Emily oh riled up.
• 1:15
  Speaker 1: But then the tables have turned as Emily sees something
• 1:18
  Speaker 1: she shouldn't have. Rory gets annoyed by Justice's reluctance to
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: call and decides to go to Stars Hollow Hockey game
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: with Lane and her fake boyfriend, but then ses Dean
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: with somebody new and speaking of Lane, her and Dave
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: have a whole new dating plan set in place. Directed
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: by Kenny Ortega. Not typical Kenny Ortega. Yeah, there's no
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: dancing or singing in this episode. Wait, I can't get
• 1:43
  Speaker 1: a read of Scott loved it or hated it? Yeah. Um,
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that that episode really hit
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: my demo. Uh, I think it hits it. I think
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: I think it hits a much younger demo obviously, because
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: we spent so much time. Look, when you take the drummer,
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: when you take the lead singer and the drummer away
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: and separate them and they're in different bands and they're
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: playing with different players, you know, you kind of lose
• 2:22
  Speaker 1: the threat a little bit. I you know, it just
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: proved to me how important the mother daughter relationship is.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: And when you separate these two this much in an
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: episode and leave them with other players, um, you know,
• 2:37
  Speaker 1: it's entertaining, but it's just it's just it kind of
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: felt like it went off the spine of what Gilmore
• 2:44
  Speaker 1: Girls is and it went into kid world and it
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: really really delved in there because now we have Dean,
• 2:51
  Speaker 1: the Dean situation, the jet situation. You know, it reflects
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: what the mother has been going through, and it's like,
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: you know, the apple not falling too far from the
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: tree with their choices and all those lessons learned and
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: or are not learned yet. Uh uh. And then of
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: course you introduced the most important character in the history
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: of television and Trixie, and I just didn't get the
• 3:20
  Speaker 1: satisfaction I was looking forward in that encounter, uh and
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: that resolution, And I just thought, listen, do you want
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: to go chronologically? Yeah, bitch for half an hour? No,
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: I love. I love listening to you, bitch. It wasn't
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: my favorite, but I liked it and I got some
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: really good laugh Let me ask you us about about Trixie,
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: because I think I have a theory, okay, because I
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: love Mary and Roth. So she is sort is very unlikable,
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: right and a little bit over the top, but I
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: love what happens as a result of her her. So
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: because of her, I love what was happening with lore
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: Lye and Emily, and because of her we got that
• 4:08
  Speaker 1: hysterical scene at the end with Richard and lore Lye.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: So is there any chance I just think that that
• 4:14
  Speaker 1: whole thing started started to cut you off for me,
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: that for me, that was built on a house of cards. Uh,
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: and it just didn't hold up for me. I think
• 4:25
  Speaker 1: the structure I knew, I knew what they were going
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: for and trying to build, but it was such a
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: weak foundation to begin with that it just didn't it
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: just it just fell apart from me. Uh. And I
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: didn't take the journey that they were trying to take
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: us on. And I actually screamed out at Emily, like,
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: you do not owe that, you know what an apology?
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: Stop apologizing? Don't apologize? Interesting And I can debate that.
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: I thought that there was a chance for some real hard,
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: hard edged drama here, like even melodrama, which I was
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: like dying for because I wasn't getting it from and
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I wanted a high quality melodrama instead of
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: what I considered to be low quality melodrama from the kids,
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: And like can can can can can the adults in
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: the room please just like let's go, okay, come on,
• 5:22
  Speaker 1: hit the accelerator here and let Emily have her runway
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: and let her just go off on that woman. Fair
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: criticism because I see what you're saying, I liked it
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: and I had some really good laughs. Daniel Tar, you
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: gotta tell us what you think, because I see what
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: you're saying. With Scott, you wanted real emotion where it
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: was very campy. Yes, I see what you're saying, and
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: I wanted it to be. I mean, listen, all of
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: this stuff, the fake boyfriend, that that Mrs Kim, all
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, it's not it's it's really is
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: straining credulity here, and that we're supposed to buy into
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: this world, right, and that Lane is in this bizarre situation.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: Everybody's in this and like now we're tolerating Jess again,
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: and then you know Taylor with the wacky hockey stuff
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: and his brother. I just thought it was kind of
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: clumsily too much of that, Whereas typically in an episode
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: we get one or two of those things and then
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: they're very funny. In this one, it was like, because
• 6:30
  Speaker 1: you've got Taylor, you've got the fake boyfriend, you've got
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: Tricks who is campy. You've got a little of Kirk
• 6:38
  Speaker 1: being the like a sports announcer and doesn't know the sport.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: So it's almost I see what you're saying. To it's
• 6:45
  Speaker 1: like too much. It was there was no it wasn't grounded.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: It was all comedy or attend to comedy, right, like,
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: let's go for these. Hey, look we're again, We're in
• 6:54
  Speaker 1: another wacky situation, ha ha ha. But I just didn't
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: think the execution was there. I didn't think the right
• 7:00
  Speaker 1: was there. I didn't think and I'm not going to
• 7:04
  Speaker 1: go along on the tricksy ride if Emily feels like
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: she has to apologize. I thought people were out of character. Okay, fair, okay,
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: So this okay, it's very exciting. It's very exciting. We've
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: got so much to debate. So first, Danielle and Tara
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: give us your overall impressions. Then I will drop the
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: bomb of the new huh something that we're going to
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: do every episode, so because I think it's going to
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: be perfect for this episode. So first, y'all's overview, what
• 7:36
  Speaker 1: did you think with a title like face Off? I
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: was expecting some kind of fist throwing, you know, like
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: some kind of actual fight. So I was a little
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: let down from there. I was just waiting for the
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: dan Jest scene where they're going to just like pummel
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: each other. I'm just waiting for it didn't happen. It's okay,
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: I'm over it. But outside of that, I did like
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: that episode. I thought it was fun. I thought it
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: was you and and interesting. But I do hear what
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: you're saying, Scott, with every character being outside of themselves,
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: You're so right, Like every single character was different than
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: who they usually are. You know, I thought it weakened everybody.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: The only time. I mean I laughed out loud a
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: couple of times, you know, I thought it was hysterically funny.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: When Laurel, I said, that's when she was coming in.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: They made asked her to come and talk to the
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: old ladies. She said, that's a deep philosophical question. Then
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: she starts backing up. Yeah, that was like for me,
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: that was the moment of the whole thing. I mean,
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: I did have some belly laughs like la But the
• 8:48
  Speaker 1: part I will agree with is there was very little
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: drama in the drama in this episode. That was like
• 8:54
  Speaker 1: really heartfelt a little bit with Rory. Okay, so Tara,
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: you tell us your thought and then I'm just so
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: excited for my bomb, my bomb to draw. I mean
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: kind of the same as Danielle, Like I really enjoyed it.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: I think also, just having seen the series so many times,
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot about this one,
• 9:10
  Speaker 1: and then it was like entertained by it. But when
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: you put it that way, everyone was a little out
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: of character. For me, when I was watching it last night,
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is really entertaining. I forgot about
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: like this is where we see Lindsay and all that stuff, um,
• 9:22
  Speaker 1: and I forgot the grant and her boyfriend. I would
• 9:28
  Speaker 1: say I melted with Adam Brady. We'll get to it later,
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: but I just but I but he even he was
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: out of right, even because he wasn't cool and we're
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: so used to him being cool. I did it that
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: he went running over there, you know that when the
• 9:46
  Speaker 1: camera on that close up of him after Lane leaves
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: with Young Chew on the fake day, and then they
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: cut to day for Dolski and he's like, he looks like, well,
• 9:57
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Right? Looks bummed? Right, It's like, come on,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: don't destroy his character. And another and another beef I
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: have is what the heck is Jess doing behind the counter?
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: Having seen with Rory, he was that that was a
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: big moment for the show because he was working behind
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: the counter exactly. Wait why because he was talking to Jess,
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: I felt I started feeling a little territorial. And I
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: know it sounds ridiculous, but to do a scene, to
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: choose to do a scene with him behind the counter
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know that I noticed that, but
• 10:41
  Speaker 1: he's been behind the counter before. There before, he's done
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: the register before, when you're upstairs are gone food. Yeah,
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: everything has been was a little off for me in
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: that episode. I don't going to disagree with you. You
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: know that wasn't off. Marion Ross's name was spelled. I
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: noticed that too. Okay, it's just just to me, it's like,
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: how can anybody, even if they're elderly, be that unconscious
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: to how obnoxious and abusive they're being to uh to Emily.
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's very out of the top. And
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: that scene in the kitchen with Laura La, I'm telling
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: her about the job, the jogger kiss. You know, she goes,
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: now I have my moment, and then Laura to convince
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: her not to do it. You know, I just what
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: is what what are you go doing? Get out of
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: her way, Let the scene happen. Let it an't. Let
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: it flyde man. I mean she earned this over three
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: and a half two and a half years of taking
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: crap off that one in the audience wants. I mean,
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: I'm the audior like forty years. She's been taking crap
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: from that one for four years. Part that doesn't track
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: for me with tricks is tricks is so you know,
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: she's she's a fancy lady who has perfect manners and
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: so proper. So even if she hates Emily, somebody like
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: that would never do it in front of their friends
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: because it would be so rude that they would judge that,
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? That would be only
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: do when it's just the family. So that was the
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: part that I thought, Oh, she wouldn't, you know, like
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: a mean old bitch is so perfect at a party,
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: do you know what I mean. So that was a
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: part that I was like, she's not going to do
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: that with those you know Granny's they're okay funeral So
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, why were they like that? They
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: were No, they were no Golden girls idea And I
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: don't have a name for it yet. We have to
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: come up with a name. But I think this is new, everybody,
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: This is new, keeping it fresh. Okay, So each week
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: before we start kind of going through it chronologically, I
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: want to do a quick high low or like what
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: made the biggest impression on you and what was your
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: bone to pick? Because last episode when we did the
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: bone to pick, people really seem to like that. They
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: wrote all about it with their if they agreed or
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: disagreed with our bones to pick. So I feel like
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: we need to do are each of us well no,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: because I didn't give my thing that really landed on me,
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: which was what was going on at the end with Rory.
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: I a phone call. No, when she comes home, so
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: Jess is all awesome, picks her up, No, Jess Blewett, No,
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: Jess looking awesome. I had that was a hail marriage. Yes,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: that was That was a total hair hail Mary, and
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: she didn't buy into it. She was still hurt and
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: she was still hurting because Dean was gone. Now okay,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: so that is okay in that moment, like I had
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: a good one. I let it go for this loser
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: and that could look how he's treating Okay, that's sensitive.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: She's a sensitive young girl that she was sort of
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: MOPy about Dean. But I had a weird moment where
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, did the have sex? And he is the
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: same back, I just said that and you said it
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: before me. I agree with you. I was like, did
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: they have sex? And then she's so belted it kind
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: of because he's not treating her right. Yeah? Was it
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: taking you back to the episode? I think it was
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the last episode silent well, and then she told Loralae
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna do it and then she was all
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: weird with loral and scurried off. So I'm I was
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: like having this weird moment, although I do agree with
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Scott that I do think she's bummed about Dean. Yeah,
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Oh that's so weird. I mean I kind of had
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: to slow claud Dean in this episode, like like just
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: gonna you know happy. Yeah, Dean was awesome in this
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: episode because he's got the new girlfriend. He's totally confident
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: in it, but still was so sweet and cool to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Rory and his friend. It was like this guy and
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: he looked good in hockey. Okay, alright, Dean, I see you, right?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: So does anyone else have something that they either that
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: really stood out to them that we'll discuss further when
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: we get to it or like a major bone to pick.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: I do have something that landed on me, like it
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: talked abousked me to to think, um, but it's at
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the very end we want to go yeah, because this
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: is going to get exact. People are gonna get so
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: excited with my bone to pick led to my aha moment.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: So the bone to pick was the Emily and Trick stuff.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: I it just I felt a little it felt overplayed
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: to me and the same old stick over and over
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: and over again. But the very very end landed on
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: me when Emily was like, I'm lonely too. Did everything
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: you know didn't ever come across to your did you
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: ever think that maybe I'm feeling the same way that
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: I'm lonely and that you hurt me? And and it
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: was just a very vulnerable moment for her character, which
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I still think it's stuck true to who she is
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: as a character, Emily. But it just made me like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: oh man, she's like giving her truth in that moment
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: and that it really like that scene landed on me. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you know what the scene that bothered me the most.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: You want to you want to know my largest phone
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: of the bone yard, because this was a bone yard
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: for me. But but, but the biggest bone is Laura
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: La and Richard sitting on the couch after the sort
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of the reconciliation speech from Emily with the tricks which
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't buy, and now she's going downstairs to get
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to tea before she arrives. Before she comes downstairs, Richard
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: starts laughing, and the whole whole thing, well, um, you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: know the jokes. So I'm gonna I have a daddy now,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: without one mention that, without one mention of how his
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: wife has been humiliated, how she's been feeling. I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: he just looked, Oh she no, I thought, Richard said
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: a break, because Graham's so tough, but so gently, so deferentially,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and Emily so deferential to this woman and moralize, so
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: deferential to her father, and and and him being so
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: completely oblivious to the to the harm this is causing
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: his own wife. Again, he just comes off to me
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: like some spoiled, unconscious little boy who's so enamored of
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: his Mommy. Mommy is okay, and she can do you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: think she wants and run rough shot over my wife
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: forty years And he sits there and laughs about a
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: moment with the kiss with the jogging suit instead of,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you know, tapping into what his wife is going. Well,
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: this has been your one bone to pick with, Richard.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think the whole series you have never liked that
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he is, so I don't like a MoMA's boy. I
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: can't stay. Yeah, he's very deferential to Graham. It's just
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's a very fair criticism, and I'm sitting
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: here listen. I understand that these scenes are are are
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: well written, they're beautifully acted, they're funny, and I think
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of people in the onance love these scenes.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I get that I can't enjoy them. I don't enjoy
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: them at all. You know what I enjoy. I enjoy
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the possibility that Emily is finally going to take action.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: I wanted her to dump that over her head and
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: she didn't, and I was like, gosh, darn it. She's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: singing songs and then she gets you know, they didn't
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: give her enough sort of revenge, right, And I understand
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: it's an elderly woman. You can't go off on an
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: elderly woman. She's like the trich, she's like the Gilmore matriarch,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: and she's protecting Rory, and maybe Rory is going to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: inherit something or whatever. So she's got to be very careful.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: But I think it was justified and was the last
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: time I'll said. I think she was just a fight
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and having a little you know, it's a little bigger
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: sort of freak out on Graham than she had imagined
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: money a little bit, because it's would be one thing
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: if these guys were all like broke his jokes and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Graham was the was the purse strings and had all
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: the money, but like Richard has made his own money,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: So that is like they they're not beholden to Graham
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: to take you know, not that you should be that way,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: but I think some people are like you know, whatever
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: the word is, if if they can't afford their bills,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: if this person isn't funding them. But that's not the
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Gilmore and Laurel I sitting there witnessing this. She came
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: in and met the women and and and Graham did it.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: And you know, she humiliated Emily in front of her
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: own daughter, in front of her own friend. And what
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: does what does Emily too? And Laurel I doesn't chirp
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: at her and all say, hey, Graham, you know, why
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: don't you take it down and not. I mean, I
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: don't like the worst thing ever to say that Graham
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: kissed a dude, do you know what I mean? Like
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: it seems like there's so many it was almost like
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: juicy and hate it. The old ladies could have had
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: a real good time talking about it, but instead it
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: was this horrific thing. Emily is so utterly um filled
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: with amma when it comes to anybody crossing her, her
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: own daughter, anybody else. You. I mean, some of the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: greatest speeches and comebacks have come out of Emily's mouth.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: That's very true. Yet she cannot muster uh a couple
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of paragraphs of like back the hell off and don't
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: talk to me that way in front of her own
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: daughter to Graham. And she's the one that is so
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: capable of doing that. She's proved that throughout the show. Laura,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I can do it. Rory's learning to do it. It
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: is just though, like I can't imagine saying that to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: my mother in law. You know, there is no I can't.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about that when she's also insane too,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: So I don't have like that like you know, correlation
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to the scenario. But when it comes to your mother
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: in law at least like being you know, married to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: my husband. That's my mother in law. There is a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: level of respect that you have to you have to
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: deal with and as Yeah, I don't know. That's the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: only thing I said. That theory about the mother in
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: law that she just can't cross the mother in law. Yeah,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: but that doesn't give the mother in law the right
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: to to call call an idiot every word coming out
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of her mouth. I mean it's not only just calling her.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: She hates Emily everything. There is no quarter given to
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: em at all. Bottom line, it is Richard's place to
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: step up and right. But he's saying done. It is
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a great bone. Yeah, So here's here's the here's the
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: big this is what I'm getting at. Okay, no wonder, Laurel,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I got the hell out of there. Yeah, that's a
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that's a that's a crazy house. Right. Yeah, And can
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you imagine when it was like back then, when everybody
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: had more energy, right, when Graham was younger, when oh
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: my goodness, Graham is nuts. I mean, I know, Okay,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: in a minute, we're going to go back to the
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: beginning of the episode. But mental and bringing right, Grant's
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: bringing her own mattress in and you know, right, Graham
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: is nuts. So now she's in stars Hollow, which is
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like a breath of fresh air. Thank god, I'm away
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: from these nuts, nut jobs who think they're I You
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: thought my mother and dad were bad. You should see
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: my grandmother. Oh my god, it's impossible. It's like she
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: walked out of the sevres. It's like, what is happening
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: with the people? So she got the hell out and
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and gosh, Darnett. I don't blame her. Stay away, don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: go back. It's like, get a second job to pay
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: for jolt yourself. Do not take this money anymore from
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: these crazy people. Let's go back to the beginning of
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: the episode. He's talking about people with their heads so
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: far up there. It's unbelievable. She had to get out, right,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: So now we will go through it. So we start
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: in with Dozy talking to Laurela about his upcoming family reunion,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: which I did find funny, all the family reunion stuff. Yeah, yeah, Taylor,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I mean Taylor being Taylor all the time. He's always Taylor. Well,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: don't keep me waiting because I have many things to
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: do today. His brother was so good, his brother. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: have a theory that Luke and Taylor's brother would be
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: p f F Taylor with this guy. Yeah, but it
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have been. I think they missed a big opportunity
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: with Taylor's brother. I thought it was really cliche and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: such an obvious choice to make him that way. I
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: wanted Taylor's brother to be exactly like Taylor. It would
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: have been. And what you're saying, give give him give
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: him a brother that is exactly like him. That would
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: be funny, right, and see which one is more like
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: per nikety, you know what I mean, and more detailed
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and more an. I mean, it just would have been
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like you think you think I'm bad, Laura, Like what
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: do you meet my brother there? You know what I mean?
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And then there's just like it's like give me a
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: tailor on steroids, you know, Yeah, that actually would have been.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Instead we get sort of the average normal guy that's
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: just like Taylor. You're nuts. See everybody in two hours
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: have a cocktail. Yeah, just because the show calls for it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: The show allows you that sort of It's detached from
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: reality enough where you could you could get a tailor
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: on steroids. Very funny. So then we moved from that scene,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: which I thought was very funny. This was in the diner,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: so we kind of jumped around with the family reunion stuff.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But we go to Friday night dinner and this is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: where Rory and Lori la are just eating so fast
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: and we're kind of like, what are they doing? Then
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we find out they both have plans and dates, and
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I just thought the funniest part is like Emily's like, well,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: we'll just sit here until you tell me what's going on. Also,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: when they're at the table, the two of them by themselves,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they're like, you're being obvious, like we're supposed to eat fast,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: but like your way too obvious. Okay again again completely
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: insulting to Emily, hurt her feelings. That's her granddaughter wanting out.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be with you, I don't want
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: to be here. I want to get the hell out.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So I didn't take it. I found that behavior offensive.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I see. I thought it was more amusing because it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Friday night and these guys have dates. And I actually
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: think if they would have told Emily, she would have
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: been like cool. You know, I've never felt I start
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: feeling sorry for Emily. I mean, she's just getting dumped
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: on granddaughter and gh I mean, she's getting from all sides.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants anything to do with her. And then they
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: have that pathetic scene where she goes to the end
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: and oh, Grandma, let me. She kicked me out of
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the house. You right, what is happening here? It wasn't like, Yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Graham really makes Emily not Emily like the Emily we
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: know and love to hate is completely lost with Graham
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: because she just puts her into a whole diather and
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: she can't function. And I get that there are people
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that you meet in your life that sort of turn
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: you into something that you're not um but this is
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: this is a television show. We please, So I thought
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: it was interesting as we we have a mention of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Alex because okay, so people on Instagram were mad at
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: me because I can't remember about how it ends with Alex,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: but sometimes I can't remember everything. So we have a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: mention of Alex that she's going out with Alex, but
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: there's no Alex. So I think Scott, you were right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember if Billy mentioned it that he
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: probably did get another job. Yeah, you know that Lauren
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: wanted more of them, right, right? Like they probably did
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: want him, and he probably he was like doing another
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: show because it's not like they're still talking about him.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So okay. So and then we sort of get the
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: inkling of Jess not calling, which I thought was like
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I thought it was out of character for him to
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: not call her. Really, yeah, only because like he's been
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: so on her with like you know, deans around this
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and that. Like I feel like he's been really like
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: tell me everything, what are you doing? And so if
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: he wants communication, then like why isn't he just giving
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: her a call when he gets off of work? Double right?
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: It was a little weird, absolutely right. You know, they
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: get these kids. Look, I remember being young and falling
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in love and there was you want to be with
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: that person. I mean when it's new and it's fresh
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and you're establishing your relationship, Yeah, you don't. You don't
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: not call somebody. Well, and Jess is an asshole. Sorry,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: apparently he is. Apparently he used to be. He was
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: such a bad boy. You know, bad boy is different
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: than than ass But what is he He's not calling
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: her because he has some deep seated psychological problems. He's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: just not thinking about it or they've messed up the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: character because the character we know would have called so
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about this, he was dating what's your doozy?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: What was that girl at the Shane Shane. He was
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: so righteous that he wasn't even gonna like kiss Rory
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: or dave Rory until he went and did the right thing,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: which was to break up with Shane. Yes, is a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: good guy. He's kind of a bad boy, but like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: you know, or the town like hoodlum as they once said.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But like he would have checked in with Rory, he wouldn't.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: He would have been like, I'm working Lane, because like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: who cares? You know, I expected I expected this, this
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: behavior to be explained at the end of the episode
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to her in that scene, like you know something, you know,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I had a bad phone call with my mom, My
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: mom went in to the hospital, my you know, I'm
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: there had to be something to throw him off because
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: he was so different. He was like a completely different person,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: acting like he's got these deep seated psychological problems or
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: some secret that he's not revealing, or some family mess
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: that's happening that's affecting him. But we're not getting any
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: explanation for this other than Okay, now he's a creep again.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: That's right, Like it's giving us sort of this reason
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: to kind of oh Dean. It's almost like the writers
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: knew they wanted Rory to be conflicted, to be you know,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit sad that Dean's got Lindsay. But like
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: then the way they got us to it is a
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: little off because Jess isn't a jerk. He is now
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: he's back to being a jerk. Yeah, he ignored. He
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: ignored his girlfriend over the entire weekend until his girlfriend's
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: mother had to kind of reprimand him. You think that, Scott,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: what did you think of that? It just I'm sorry,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: this episode just did not get off the ground. It
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: didn't get off the ground at all. It stayed on
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: the runway and I was waiting for it to fly,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and it just none of it. It made no There
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: was no logic to it, like cohesion is that the word?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: There was no emotional logic to it. I couldn't, you know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I didn't understand why these people were acting this way.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: And these are characters that I love and I care
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: about and who who I think are brilliant characters. But
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: they did were not behaving like themselves. In this episode,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: and I didn't get a really good explanation as to why, Yeah,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: what did everybody think about laur A Lie twice sort
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: of having words with Jess, kind of giving him advice.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It felt like a big overstep, Like I don't know
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: a lot of moms that are going to be like,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: I agree is the best and you should be calling
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: her And she likes to go to concerts like that
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: would turn a kid off. And if her daughter found
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: her daughter before I found out she did that, she'd
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: probably mad her mom. I was about to say, if
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I find out my mom did that with someone I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: was dating, I'd be mortified. Yeah, because I think between us,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I will get Laura Lie mom points though, for making
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Rory go to the hockey game. You're not going to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: stay at home. You're not gonna wait by the phone
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and hope this guy calls you. You get your butt
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: out and you go to the hockey game and have fun.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: That felt very Laura lish. Yeah, that felt like something
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Laurea l I would do. The thing that was interesting
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: about Jesse's we all know she doesn't love Jess, so
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: why is she like getting up in his but helping him?
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It's like because she doesn't her daughter to be hurt.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like he reverted back to when we
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: first met him and he started interacting with Flora. Wasn't good.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Reverted He's reverted back to this kid again. He's not
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: being the Jess we know with Rory, because even though
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Jess always had conflict, let's say with lower Lea or
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: even Luke, he never hurt Rory. Like, I can't think
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: of one time other than when we I think it
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was her fault that he wanted her and he started
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: dating Shane only because she was still with Dean and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: she was hurt by that. But she but he made
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: sense like you're dating teen again. He was so true.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So I just I don't see him being He's acting
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: like he has psychological problems. He's acting like he's bipolar.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: He's acting like he's got drug problems. He's acting in
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: ways that a mother would not want him anywhere near
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: her daughter. Yeah, I mean, I like this episode, but
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: as we're talking about it, it's like it does sort
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: of have its flaws. It's kind of funny and light
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: for the parts that were that. But you're right, like
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I am sort of buffuddled by Jess. And then I
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like where Laurelie says, don't compare these two, but why
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: is Rory do comparing them? She picked Jess, Well, it's inevitable.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: They're in a small town and Dean's interface all the
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: time by happenstance, and you know, he's being a great guy,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and he's being a great friend, and Jess as being
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: you know, he's reverting back to some old behavior which
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: is not fun to watch, and it's hurting that girl. Yeah,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and it's uh, you know, I don't look, Jess has
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: displayed and proven that he is smarter. Then he's trying
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: to get away with Now, Okay, he understands how she feels,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: he understands his effect on her, he understands all this.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: So ignoring her over a weekend is it's either it's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: either intentional or he's had some kind of an episode
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: um that maybe we'll find out about the next But
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: I think the writers just to me, this is where
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: it takes you out of it being real, is that
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: they wanted this sort of angsty nous over Dean or
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: maybe the missing Dean, and this was the only way
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: they could get us there, because it Jess is being Jess,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the jests that we've that we're falling for and loving,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he's not going to do this, which means she's not
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: going to be jealous of Lindsay. Right. The reason she
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: sort of was a little jealous of Lindsay was because
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Jess wasn't treating her great, Like even when Dean's like,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: how's Jess and She's like great, but it's b s. Yeah,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I think it kind of sets
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: up like this happened the episode where we see Lindsay
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and like we're like okay, and you know, it was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: kind of like playing We're now a little bit more
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: on like Dean side, like okay, it looks like he's
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: moving on maybe, and then Jess's kind of like losing
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: interest on the other side or being a jerk. The
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: thing I can't remember is when I saw it the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: first time. Did I see it coming with Lindsay, like
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you know they meet, yeah again, you know there obviously
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: we're friends at high school before she went to Chilton,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: And remember She's like, well that was weird, right, and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Lane's like, yeah, that was weird. Did you think Lane knew?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: How did Lane not know that he's dating that he
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: was dating Lindsay because as she goes to school with them,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and like it's a small town, Lane would have known.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: And I even thought the way Lane was in that
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: scene that she knew. Watch it again. It was almost
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: like she was hiding something from Rory. But then in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the next scene she says, I didn't know. It's you
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: think she's also just been like super distracted with the band,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: because like sometimes when you're distracted with your own thing,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: like in the band. And no, he's too small in
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the town school. Are you kidding me? If at my
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: school two people were dating or even their best friend's
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: ex boyfriend and you break up and then he's dating
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a new girl at school that they were clearly friends with,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we would all know. So I'm like, yeah, that's a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: bone to pick for me. You know. It felt like
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the studio gave some notes to this production and said, listen,
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: let's let's do sort of a kid centric episode because
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: we need to sort of uh give a nod to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: that demo because that's you know, the c W was
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: a young network. It wasn't you know, it doesn't skew older.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's it's under thirty five, right, it's older, but yeah,
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, it was really it was really geared
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: toward teens, and that's the audiences they wanted to get,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: so maybe that had something to do. Almost feels like
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the writers maybe put the writers out of their element
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: and put the writers out of their strengths. Scott, You're
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: going to have to answer this because this is just
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a weird theory. But I'm not like I do. I'm
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not an actor or a director. It's almost like they
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: had Kenny Ortega scheduled right, and then the writers wrote
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: this episode that isn't right for Kenny Ortega because think
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: about the Kenny Ortega Thanksgiving the dance, um, you know,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: twenty four Dance with thon this So it was almost
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: like Kenny was trying to do his Kenny thing, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that the right wasn't totally right for it. Um. It
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: feels sort of like, wait, I get what you're saying. Yeah,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think what happens is if you don't okay, Uh.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I do think it was right for Kenny because he
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: dealt with all those kids and that's his sweet spot.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: He does that well, he does big crowds well, he
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: does that. He did the hockey games. Everything was great. Um,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was a Kenny Ortega issue. I
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: think it was I really think it was the studio
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: wanting to appeal to the demo more more minutes per episode.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: It's like, we're doing the the adult thing too much.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Let's do the kid. Let's do the kid thing more. Okay,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe ratings weren't what they I mean, ratings were
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: always good for the show, but maybe they were trending
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: down a little bit because things were getting a little
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: too adult, de dramatic. Let's do kid dramatic. These are
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the kind of broad notes. Here's my question. Have you
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: ever done an episode of the show doesn't have to
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: be gil with girls? Where there was like it started
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: with a director right, and then something happened or the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: director wasn't right, and they got rid of him and
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it was the same script but a different director and
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: the episode everything changed, like Okay. The best example I
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: can give is like when they did Back to the Future,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox was Eric Stolts, and like they all
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: were like, Eric Stolts is a great actor, but he's
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: playing this too dark. He's not pulling off the comedy.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: It's the same words on the page they bring in
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Michael J. Fox, and we have like what I think
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: is like the best movie of all time, Like that's
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: literally my favorite movie ever. So could the same be
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: true that like the same words, maybe you could have
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: had your melo drama if it wasn't Kenny Artaga. And
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I'm not critic. I love Kenny Arteaga. I think I
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: don't think this is a director issue. It's a script issue.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: It's a script issue. It's not a director issue. There
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't drama in the script enough. I don't think. I
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: think the characters were too got too far afield from
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: what they had established, and it's and it didn't make
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: any kind of there wasn't any kind of real emotional
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: logic to it. Um. So that's when you sort of
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: disengage from a character, from a narrative, from a storyline
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: from a show like things are feeling up. Let me
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: tell you something, it's very very difficult to remain consistent,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: uh with the show this complex, with character, this many voices,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Very difficult to do right because I wouldn't even call
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: this a dud, it's just sort of character. You're right, right,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: I know I'm sounding very negative. You're you're not, but
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I did enjoy the episode. I mean the kids stuff.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I kind of flagged a little bit, you know, um,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: when it's too much Lane, Rory and Sweetie talk and
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: all this time stuff, I kind of check out. But
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: but it's but it's I really thought they did have
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: some good scenes and good scenarios. There was a lot
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: of laughs. I don't want to be so negative about it,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but I just think the the uh, you know, separating
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Laura Line and Rory to this degree, I think it
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: hurts the show. I think that's a really interesting point.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I don't I think, because you know, I'm even just
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: thinking about like the school was Tepee. That was funny.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: I did laugh out loud quite a few times. But
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. Okay, wait, so I have
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: a few listen. Listen. There there are lead characters in series,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: and then there's Lauren Graham and Gilmore grows. You you
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: go away from her and you don't spend the kind
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: of time that you want to spend with her because
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: she's the conductor of the orchestra. He really enjoyed was
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: you and Billy talking about that, because he has had
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: such a great experience with her. You had such a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: great experience with her. I loved hearing the two of
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you sort of just talk about how she is an
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: Olympian essentially U and if you don't spend enough time
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: with her in an episode, if she's not And maybe
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: they did it because they were giving Laura a rest,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like this had a
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: lot to do in this episode. But I see what
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you're saying. It wasn't the chemistry were used to either.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: And look not for nothing, I'm not blowing smoke up
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: your you know what, but there wasn't a lot of
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Laura lie Luke, which we do. Really those scenes are
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that same you're getting coffee, like It's just it's something
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: so special because I think we only have like the
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: one scene where you were with them briefly, and it
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: was really more about you and Taylor, So it was
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: like we didn't get to see I think this episode
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: proves that this show cannot be sustained. Uh, dealing with
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: kid World all the time for the majority of the
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: show cannot sustain it. If that's the show they wanted.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: If that's the show the c w wanted, then they
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: should have dictated that to Amy and Dan and said, listen,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: I can't have these older characters so much. They're there,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: They're gonna be twelve fourteen on the call sheet. We
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: want the kids. Just make it about the kids. But
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: they didn't make that show. They made a show about
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: a mother and a daughter and this heavy relationship with
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: a diner on right. Yeah, I mean right the show.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: There is nothing without Lauren Graham with the show amazing
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: as Alexis is, which I do think she's amazing. This
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: is Lauren Graham. You don't have a show without those two.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And they've got to be together. They've got to be
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: interacting with me, they've got to be interacting with the parents,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: and then you get then you get some fun kids
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: stuff tips right right show. That's the backbone of the show.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: A couple more things. There was the cringe eest most
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: inappropriate line ever in the episode you know dude, you guys.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: It was so when the guys are playing the band.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even want to say the line because it
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: made me like I literally wrote, oh gay when he
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: said gay, even twenty years ago. That was not that No,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that was rough. There was a funny line though, when
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: um dosies reunion, they like me wonder why he's got
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: so many pas in shoppy with that so to shop
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: He's like, what do you have so many pas in there? Like?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So that was good I found under use of Michelle,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: I could have used a lot more Michelle. We had
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that one sort of scene where they're like, are you French?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I fought in the war, and it was like, the right,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that is the most happy cliche thing, you know, you
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: want to bash World War two veterans because it was like,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: what that scene really should have been cut out of
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the episode. Yeah, it made it made that veteran look ridiculous,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and they were I think they were trying, Yeah, what's
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: the angle here? So again you might be right, Like
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to criticize John Stevens the you do
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: a better French joke, but there was some bad writing
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, I mean, for God's sake, there's a
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: million other things that you can interact, you know, a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: patriot or World War two veteran interacting with Michelle. And
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: there was so much comedy you could have had with
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Michelle with Taylor and like, we know he's French, like
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: we were in season three, Like we didn't a joke,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Like I feel like we needed more like he just
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: seemed it was just like a filler, it feels. It
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: was a little funny when Emily said her bitter old biddies,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: but it was also like, really, you got to be
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: so mean to the like Granny's. But I could let
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: that one slide. Uh. The young shoe stuff with the
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: fake dating and him talking to Karen wasn't named Karen,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: know what? Yeah, something like that. It was kind of
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: classic if her name was Karen, because she's so like,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: kind of mad, you know, Kirk messing up the hockey.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed that more, maybe if some of
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the other stuff wasn't sort of like so over the top.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: Two Yeah it was. It was just it was just
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: an odd episode, you know. One once one thing is off,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: then it sort of throws everything else off. It's like
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: a house of cards. What about Miss Patty singing the
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: national anthem with the bet? That was pretty That was good.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: But they were good, but then it seemed like the
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: crowd didn't care. I was like, what's going on? I
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: did like how Rory discovered that sports are really about
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: food and she enjoyed that, notcho I am Rory when
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I'm like, oh, does Dodger Gaines
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: get some notches? Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, there was some
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: good laughs for sure. Yeah, like even when or lies
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: like are you serious? Are you serious? Like that was funny.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I am being serious and I am serious. Lane kind
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of knowing after they saw lindsay like, hey, are you okay?
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Lane kind of knew like that's a little tough. So
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: that was mm hmmm mm hmmm. The whole kissing the
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: man thing for Graham was kind of also random, but
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: yet I did laugh at Emily kind of like sneaking
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: me out and then basically hiding in the Everything was funny,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: but also like, who cares that she's kissing this old guy? Right?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Why are you leaving your own house? Right? It's you.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: It's your freaking house. That's your right. It's like, go upstairs,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you're going the kitchen. What are you leaving for? I
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: don't know. None of this made sense to me, but
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of it didn't make sense. The kids, you know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the kids stuff kind of saved me. I was befuddled
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: at the end because I felt like Rory would have
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: been happy that Jess got the concert. Take it's and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: they went and had a good time. So the fact
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that she was so bummed when she got home threw
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: me off. I was like, WHOA, what's going on? To
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: be honest, I can't really like watching it back in
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: order like this. I'm like, I can't even remember what
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: happened the next couple episodes after this, like diving into
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: like I'm like, what's next? I don't remember? Well, you know,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: it's kind of weird. Is maybe Scott you could this
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: sort of felt like a filler episode or like plunked
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: it in there. I mean, obviously we're gonna have more
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: from lindsay yes, but I think Grant, I don't. I
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: don't obviously. I think this episode served the purpose of
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: um maybe trying to refocus the attention from a different
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: demo on a narrative the studio thinks is going to
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: be far more powerful in terms of selling ads and
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: getting Let's focus on the kids. Let's let's do the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Dean uh Rory Milo or Jess uh Troy ka there
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: and and let's spice this up a little bit with kids,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: you know, and let's see if we can get better
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: ad dollars or something like that, you know what I mean.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: And let's let's see how this episode is received and
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: let's see see if the critics mentioned it, see what
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: happens with with our buyers and that kind of thing.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I really think that it was a business move, you know,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: to really try to ye, I'm not gonna lie peeked
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: ahead a little bit. And and there's a very big
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: adult storyline coming next week. So well, I mean the
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: head too, did you. I was watching last night and
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I was like, I really want to watch two episodes tonight.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: But I thought myself, like a couple of minutes in
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, maybe, you know, maybe
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: in the writer's room they were given this dictates from
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the studio and they just was kind of like, Jesus,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: what do we do now? And next next week's written
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: by Amy, so we know that it's going to be
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and it's called the Big One. That's the title. Yeah.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I don't want to harp on on the writing, even
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: though well there was some cringe e writing in there,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: so that, but I don't want to. I don't know
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: if you want to necessarily blame the writer for the writing,
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: because he may have been facing some impossible tasks and
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: there was something funny. There was some funny stuff. I mean,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I did laugh out loud, and I enjoyed myself watching it.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: It's not like I'm ever look at It's like comparing,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: you know, five star restaurants, like it's always a five star,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: but some are just light. Maybe just get a slightly better, right, Well,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: really you don't think this was like, well the five star,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the Michelin star restaurants clothed, let's go get a hot
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: dog on the No, I do not do you? I
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: do not. I wasn't that like Arby's. I think for me,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: like this episode, if it were just like if I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was going through the channel on TV and it was on,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: I just want to watch one. And I haven't watched
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls in a while. It's like a phil like
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: you said, it's like a filmer entertaining, but watching an
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: order like comparing it week after a week, we're like, yeah,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a great point. God, that's so and
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: I know we have to go in a second, but
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: that's such a great point. The way we're watching it
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: is different, like so, I'm do you guys ever just
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you're on USA Network and literally s VU is on
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: every week constantly. I always enjoy it, but I don't
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: know if I went to the very beginning of Law
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: and Order SVU and started watching it in order, if
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: each episode would you know there is something about watching
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: him in order. But there's also I've ever seen that
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: show stop never stop it really never seen a single episode.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: I've seen every episode. I've never seen it in order.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I just like, turn it on while I well, I
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: don't think you would like it because you don't like
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, you were in Saw, but you don't really
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: like murder, and like, I'm you would love it. I
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: love that. I love trying to figure out what's going
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: on criminal minds, I love that crap. Yeah, okay, so Scott,
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: we do have something exciting you are doing. So Scott,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: there there's these awesome which people listening no, these Gilmore conventions,
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: like I don't know what to call them, but you're
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: doing an amazing one and we're actually going to be
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: at it live. So we wanted to give people a
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: bit more information because it is the first time we're
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: going to be there live. Well, Tar is going. I'm going.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I don't lie, so I can't get there, but Tar
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: is going, and so we're gonna do a special episode
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: from there. So we wanted to have like the person
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: who's putting on the convention come on to tell us
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about it, so we can get
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: everybody pumped up, whether they can go in person or
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to listen in to the podcast.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: And it's a pretty much a summer fest of Gilmore hotties.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Can I say that? Say anything? He wants free country,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: will you guys bring him? Laney? So this is the
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: person putting on the what's it called again? And him
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: we were actually hosting all the panels at the event,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: So tell us about it, tell us tell us everything. Um.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: So it's called Epics and Chill. It's at the Omar
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Shrine Auditorium UM in the Charleston, South Carolina area. It's
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: August nineteen through one. Um, we're gonna have six members
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: of the cast of Gilmore Girls, I know, and this
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: is Matt Zukries and um Greg Henary's first convention. So
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that's Logan and then that's Mr hunts Barger, So it's
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: Logan and his dad. Yeah, so you can get the
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: father and son photo and then I know, oh my god,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I actually wish I was going. And then Scott's going
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: to be there and he's doing a special uh coffee
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: meat and greet. Actually the coffee meeting green sold out,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: but there's a town hallal congratulations Scott. Coffee date meant
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: greet that's already sold out. But there's a town hall
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: meet and greet. That's uh, everyone but Matt Um and
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that's including Scott and that that's so genius who thought
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of calling it a town hall. It's John Cabrera, Seawn Gunn,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: Scott Patterson obviously and um and uh Yannick Schuesdale. First
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: of all, if you have Scott, you have Michelle. That's
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: all you need. So can so okay, if there still
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: hotel rooms, like if people want to go like and
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: where can they go to find out more information for
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: people listening? So there are still ho terror rooms, And
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: just really quickly that if you also are fans of
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: Gossip Girl, teen Wolf, Um, we have Shane West, Brian Greenberg,
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Tyler Posey from teen Wolf is doing a concert on
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Saturday night. And we just announced Taylor Lautner, who's hasn't
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: done anything. I'm good friends with Taylor. He never does
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: this kind of thing, does not He's actually he's actually
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: never done a convention in this way, like he's done panel,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: he's done a couple of panels in two thousand eleven.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: He's never come and done like the photos auto. So
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: this is his first really real convention experience. So Scott,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: that ties it together for you because you just talked
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Twilight with Billy Burke last week. Look, this is gonna
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: be a huge convention. This is there's so many there
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: are so many like really popular shows represented. Yeah, like
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: she said, teen Wolf, Gossip Girl, all kinds of people
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: are gonna be there. I've never seen a lineup like
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: this at a convention before. It's like it's town Again
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: where it's like a w extramgy. Yeah, I was gonna
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: say it really town again. So it's it's it's the Charleston,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: South Carolina area that the venue is technically in Mount Pleasant,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: but that's like basically a suburb of Charles, Charleston. That's
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: like cool. Tara is going tar Yeah, pumped, Oh my god,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. We just cook. Yeah, I saw it
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: on my credit card and I'll give you We're actually
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: we're about to announce one of our not our last guest,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: but one of our final guests and it's Chase Crawford
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: who was in Gossip Girl and also what yeah, yeah,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: I did. I did a convention with Chase in New York.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait, so this is just like Hottie
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Central Girls Girls Weekend and we have a lot of
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: people doing that. It's definitely a total girls weekend for sure, Tara.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna need to face time us like a lot
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: when when I'm not with Scott working, I'm probably gonna
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: be off another panel. God's gonna be like, where is Yes, Okay,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: so you guys, Scott does these, but this is the
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: first time we're gonna be doing the podcast from the convention,
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: so that's gonna be awesome. I can't wait tout August Night,
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: August first, Uh huh in Charleston, South Carolina. The website is, uh,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: this is a pretty epic convention, wouldn't you say so? Yeah,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: epic cons dot com so E P I C C
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: O N S dot com. And we'll put it on
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: our Instagram and in the show right up, Tara, will
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you make sure we put it in the show right
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: up so people have the info. Oh I love me
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: some Matt Zukari, so you know I'm team logan. This
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: is his very first convention ever. So get it. Get
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: in rv AM getting I have to leave now to
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: you imagine, get the Eastern, get get the whole game.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: I know Tara got the prize on this one. I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: really did. Oh my god, you guys pull straws on
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: he got to come or I think it was a
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: battle definitely between Tara and Easton and then Tara one somehow. Congratulations,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: we might have to send someone. This is pretty I'm
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Yeah, absolutely, this is a big one
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: because we need someone to hold the phone Tara, to
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: take all the photos with you, with all the true
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: If you guys do not send me a photo of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: you with Matt Zukri, Like literally, I'm gonna be mad.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: We're gonna you know, We're gonna have to get in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: line and wait our turn to get a photo of them.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Scot on line for first. I don't know. First of all,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I'm afraid. I'm afraid of if I go off to
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: him in the green room and say, Mr su Creek,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: do you remember me we worked? Can I get a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: photo with you? Can you get the hell away from me?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: You have to do that. You have to wait in
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: line to get like, oh my god, I need the video.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I need that. Every One told me I'm not supposed
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: to call it the Instagram. I need it for Instagram.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I get that. We'll put all the info.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: This is amazing. Friday night event um is karaoke with
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: several of the celebrities, including John Carberra. So you can
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: come sing karaoke with John Carbara on Friday night. All yeah,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: I mean these are things you can't do other places.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Wait, and Charleston's kind of cool. What
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: is it hot there? What do people wear? Um? It's
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: a beach town, so I think, and it's August, so
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: definitely your beach were Oh my god, I love it, Tar,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. I'm excited. This might be my favorite
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: work trip I'll ever do. Okay, so incredibly excited to
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: have you, Scott. I just wanted to let you know
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: and I can't. I'm looking forward to our panels. So oh,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: it'll be fun. It'll be fun. It'll be a lot
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: of fun. Are we doing U? Are we doing a
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: panel just you and me? Or is you and me
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: and all the guys? It'll be me and you and
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: all the guys except so that will that it's everyone,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to actually figure that out. So
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Sean Gunn was originally going to be there both days,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: but this guy named James Gunn has messed up a
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: little bit. He's gonna Sewan is only going to be
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: there on Sunday and Matt's only there on Saturday because
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: of Matt's filming schedule. So we're we originally had a
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: panel of all together, but we're gonna probably do something
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: on Saturday with Matt and then something on Sunday with Shawn.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: So we're we're actually that just kind of came through
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: the pipeline, so we're figuring that out. But well, my
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: production cleared me no problem. I don't know what they're problems. Oh.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: I will say though, but right before Matt does take
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: back off to go back to UH filming on Sunday morning,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: we are going to be able to do that that
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: amaze in group shot of all six of you together
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: though it's coming in just for that before he leaves
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: for the airport. So I love that. That's why Matt's awesome.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe I can meet him there. Well, no, you'll be
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: there even there on Saturday with him I hope you.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I hope you get your moment with Matt ser I
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: want a moment. Oh my god, I need I need it.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know who gets to the hotel first, but
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you guys should have like this.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Can you see Scott just creeping on Matt's room? Oh no,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I'll be too nervous and if the elevator I'll back
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: the hell out. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry god. Yeah, well, Tara,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: I'm jealous. You'll be there and I'll be texting you
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the whole time. You're gonna face time me. Yeah, I'll
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: just face Why don't you take one of the yachts.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Start now. I know when we do the podcast, I'll
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: get to be on the zoom, so I'll get to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: see we'll get to be on the zoom. I'll see
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: everybody through this. This is how we really do the
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: podcast from the panel. Yeah, Laney's no, We're gonna do
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: it kind of like backstage. Laney's figuring it all out. Oh,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I got you, all right, And then we'll have special
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: guests that'll be we could during the group photo op
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: with everyone, we could hold up a FaceTime of EU
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: Daniel and then you could have a group photo with
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: the FaceTime. It's gonna be it'll definitely be a convention
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: specific episode. I don't know if we're gonna be able
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: to watch a Gilmore episode and analyze exactly. We'll make
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it a special it'll be a whole different thing, exactly. Well,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll see you soon. Thank you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: so much for having you. I look forward to seeing
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: you both at the convention. And you can't wait to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: meet you, Laney, And thanks for all the help. It's
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: a lot to do, uh, and you're doing a great job.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a lot of fun. Thank you
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: so much. I'll see you all right. So ye see
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: everybody Auguste and Charleston right outside of Charleston at the
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: Epics and Chill Convention Fan Convention in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: which is right outside of Charleston. Man, that's gonna be
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: a great city, great time. Boy, this is gonna be
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: really something. Tara, better get your sleep. Well, this is
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the first time that we ever do a podcast in
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: person together, like everyone. Oh yeah, this will be the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: first time that you guys are meeting in person. Yeah,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: you're the only one I've been in a room withn't
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: met personally. I know. It's that weird. It's it's so
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: weird because when you guys see each other, you will
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: forget that because it's like it's like we're all together
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: all the time. Wait, Scott, are you really tall? I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: mean I'm like six one. Okay, I'm really sure. It's
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: it always like, heads up, I'm shorter than you think.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you I'm five one. Scott's going to be
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: a foot tall you huh? Someone else? Like one of
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: someone else we work with their Like after a year
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: with you on Zoom, I didn't realize how short you were.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I'm immediately googling how tall is Matt Zukriyah compare my
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: he's like five eight, five nine, But Mr Huntsberger seems tall. Yeah,
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: it says Matt is five nine. Yeah, I think, yeah,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: I think Mr hunts tall. He's like five eleven. That
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: means I need to get a photo with them Amy
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: so we can see. That's your Christmas card? Hello, right, yeah,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: you're like, Merry Christmas. Everyone. Let me tell you something.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: It's going down this summer. Oh my god. Yeah. If
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: I were listening and I could figure out a way
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to get there, I would do it. Ladies, Just why
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: do you just get on a plane take a pill yourself.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: I haven't been on a plane since seven or something.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Something happened. Did you get there? I just have issues
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm going to die every time
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I'm in there. It's claustrophobia. The idea to go on
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: elevator the RV isn't a bad idea though. RV is
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: a great way to travel. I don't you, Danielle across
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the country? That is like, you know, it's like you're
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: going on tour. Man, it's fun. It's a lot of fun. Alright,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: next week, what's the episode? I think it's called the
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Big One Episode, season three? Wow? See you then? All right,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: so this is all one episode. We've just jesus, it's
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: really just over an hour. It's actually was an hour
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: and nine minutes. Yeah, you just enjoying yourself. Yeah, so
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: tune in if you want to hear me complain for
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: an hour night. Got a really lifted, really put a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: little zipperty in your JUDEA promo? Please God, can we
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: please gotta promo? Is St Matterson the Ewing Podcast? And
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: what are we complain about? Your favorite in our nine minutes.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: This week's for you. It's an honest to god bitch
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: fest with your favorite host. How listen, how much do
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: we hate this episode? But then we would you know,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: we would qualified by saying no, But we really enjoyed it,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: and there were a lot of of all. That's the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: funniest part is I was like, it's not our favorite,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: but we loved it. But we didn't love it. But
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: we did love it, but we hated it. What was all?
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: We loved the writing. Listen, if I if I was
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: just if I just came home from work, right, I'm tired,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: my feet hurt, my back hurts. You know, I gotta
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: take a test, I need some food, and this episode
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: came on. It would make me laugh and it would
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: improve my day. It would I would enjoy the heck
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: at it. I really would, I really really would. Right,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: It's only like Tara said, when you're comparing it to
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: everything because we're spoiled, were so spoiled, Right, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: we're tough. We're tough. Bye bye, All right, enjoy your week, everybody, everybody,
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and don't treat had. Follow us on Instagram at I
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: Am all In Podcast and email us at Gilmore at
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: I Heart radio dot com. Oh you Gilmore fans. If
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: you're looking for the best cup of coffee in the world,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: go to my website for my company, scott ep dot com.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: S C O T. T y P dot com, scott
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: ep dot com Grade one Specialty Coffee. Yeah.