Latest / Bring The Thunder Podcast / OKC Strikes Back in Game 2! - Playoff Discussion
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- 0:02What's going on? Yo, welcome to the Bring the
- 0:04Thunder podcast. I'm here with Sapir Thunder talk
- 0:07and King Capers man 1111 OK C gets it done at home, 123 to 107
- 0:14over the Indiana Pacers. Very similar to the first game
- 0:21where we were hovering 141518 point lead the whole game and
- 0:25they were trying to come back. This time we were able to hold
- 0:28it and finish the game and the Pacers ended up pulling their
- 0:31starters with like with like 4 minutes left in the game.
- 0:34Thank God. Quick start before we get into
- 0:36detail. Shay with 34 five and eight on
- 0:39over 50%, four steals. Jada better but not great. 19
- 0:45five and five got to line 9 times that was.
- 0:48That's good. Jet 15 and 6/6 of 11.
- 0:52Better, but not great. Dort one for three with three,
- 0:56but all over on defense. Case in four points, but all
- 0:59over on defense, two guys off the bench.
- 1:01Alex Crusoe had 20 points tonight.
- 1:04I'm going to get to that in a minute because there was
- 1:06something set in the preview. But 20 points, four of eight
- 1:10from three. Yeah, in 27 minutes.
- 1:15Aaron Wiggins, 18 points, 4 rebounds, 6 of 11/5 of eight
- 1:19from three. That's 9 threes from two guys
- 1:21off the bench. That's the difference.
- 1:23And then Hartenstein, pretty solid defensively tonight.
- 1:28Three points, 8 rebounds, 4 assists.
- 1:29But his plus minus was through the charts.
- 1:31He had a great effect on the game.
- 1:34A few other guys scored in the end.
- 1:35And then big Ken Rich Williams, minutes, 8 minutes.
- 1:39But like actual minutes, not, you know, garbage time minutes.
- 1:44Couple big plays, big rebounds, big, a couple of assists, I
- 1:48think. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:49Two assists. Everything, what we were looking
- 1:51for pretty much came, you know, it came alive in this game.
- 1:57I'll let Zabrier talk about Wiggins first all.
- 2:02Right. I got you.
- 2:03I got you. So I don't know, man.
- 2:07Wiggins, we've been saying, we've been saying that he needs
- 2:10to be having more minutes. He did that. 18 points.
- 2:15I feel like all the guys that we talked about in the preview did
- 2:19exactly what we were looking for them to do.
- 2:22Russo 20, Gate of 19. Obviously Wiggins had the 18 and
- 2:26Holmgren stepped up and had the 15 big points.
- 2:31Shay also did exactly what I had asked him to do, which I was
- 2:35really confused why he wasn't getting the assists.
- 2:37You know, drop your points down a little bit and he didn't even,
- 2:40he didn't really didn't drop off anything.
- 2:42He had 34 points, but he dished 8 assists, 5 rebounds and a
- 2:46really key stat. He hit a 3000 point season
- 2:50milestone and he joins Kobe and Jordan as a legend.
- 2:55So he's already entering A stratosphere that I don't think
- 3:01people will be able to understand until after the
- 3:05season's over. But we'll get into that
- 3:07obviously a lot later. But I'm I'm just super excited
- 3:11about this win. I honestly don't know what Rick
- 3:15Carlisle is probably thinking in this moment like.
- 3:21I could probably answer that. What do you think?
- 3:23I think it was clear that he's thinking that we got one, we
- 3:26stole one, we weren't even supposed to.
- 3:28Let's go home. He pulled the stars with four
- 3:30minutes left. Yeah.
- 3:32He knew the job, they got the job done.
- 3:34No matter what happened tonight, they already got the job done.
- 3:37They already got one on the road, which is the toughest
- 3:40thing to do, especially this time around the year.
- 3:42So his mindset is we did our job, let's get out of here
- 3:47healthy and go get ready for game three.
- 3:49That's probably what it is. It's a good coach because.
- 3:52Anything that happened Joe was icing on the cake if they won
- 3:55this game. Exactly like Tyrese after game
- 3:58one was saying let's get greedy. So like they already got 1.
- 4:01You know 2 would have been great for them, but whatever capers,
- 4:04I'm going to let you go and then I'm a then I'm going to be
- 4:07bragging about myself. But oh.
- 4:09Boy, I'm going to make it sure, because I do want to hear what
- 4:11you got. I'm interested to hear what you
- 4:12got to say, but I appreciate it though.
- 4:16What do we have? 6 guys in double figures
- 4:18tonight? Five guys in double figures
- 4:19tonight. I liked how they splattered the
- 4:22menace out. I'm so happy again.
- 4:25Again, I don't dislike him. Thank God there was no AJ
- 4:28Mitchell tonight. He didn't get too he didn't get
- 4:32too creative in a good or bad way with his lineup.
- 4:36The only negative in my opinion that I took away from this game
- 4:40and it wasn't even that bad because of how we won, was they
- 4:43still had Isaiah Joe on McConnell.
- 4:45But I guess you could call that nitpicking.
- 4:47So I don't want a nitpicking to win that.
- 4:49We won by 15, you know what I mean?
- 4:50We made them pull the starters out with like 4 or 5 minutes
- 4:53left. But I'm really excited.
- 4:57The only problem is, is now we have to go on the road.
- 5:02It's split one to one. They haven't been in the finals
- 5:05in what, 20 years? 25 years.
- 5:08That. Crowd is about to be rocking for
- 5:11both of those games. Rocking.
- 5:14Yep. So, I mean, I thought the
- 5:15Thunder crowd tonight was rocking.
- 5:17It was rocking bro. They, I could hear it throughout
- 5:20the whole game. The fans showed out and they as
- 5:24bad as Chet and the guys wanted to win.
- 5:27I feel like the fans wanted this to win even more.
- 5:30And I feel like that energized this the type of play we had,
- 5:34because at times in this game we had some moments where it didn't
- 5:38look the most tip top type of Thunder basketball.
- 5:43But I want to hear what Joe's got to say.
- 5:45Yeah, I. Already know what he's going to
- 5:46say, but yeah, go ahead man. Before I get much field
- 5:50appreciate everyone joining the live we'll get to a lot of your
- 5:53comments soon. We're just going to recap the
- 5:56game and little I want to recap our game preview a little bit.
- 5:59We were talking we did the game preview yesterday.
- 6:03If you didn't see that, you can go check it out if you want, but
- 6:10I think Savier and I hit it right on the head, bro.
- 6:14Savier called for more Aaron Wiggins and he called for more
- 6:17more play making from Shane. From the team.
- 6:21From the team. We had tons of play making.
- 6:24We had 25 assists, I believe tonight, yeah.
- 6:27Much better than the first game and myself.
- 6:31I I like to brag when I get a chance.
- 6:35We were having this conversation of where are we going to get
- 6:37like, who's it going to be? Who's going to be the guy who
- 6:40consistently knocked down shots to come in space to floor and
- 6:44not, you know, allow Indiana to have a mismatch.
- 6:48And I said, it's Alex Caruso. I said he's got to have almost
- 6:5130 minutes a game. Comes in tonight on 27 minutes,
- 6:5420 points, 3 rounds, 3 rebounds and an assist. 443 pointers and
- 7:00four free throws. Absolute playmaker tonight.
- 7:03Allowed the team to have multiple playmakers on the floor
- 7:06with his spacing because he's a he's a threat from three.
- 7:10He's a consistent threat from three all playoffs.
- 7:11He's shooting over 40% still. So I'm just really happy with
- 7:16the performance tonight from him.
- 7:18Wiggins for sure. Hopefully he continues to get
- 7:22the minutes. You know how Mark likes to play
- 7:23him 20 and then play him three, but I think off the bench from
- 7:28now on. Oh, I also called for Kenridge
- 7:30Williams, by the way. I also did call for Ken.
- 7:32I was waiting for you to say that.
- 7:34I forgot about that. I think from now on, like we
- 7:38wanted Caruso, Heartstein, Wiggins and Kenridge off the
- 7:41bench. That'll be it.
- 7:43Maybe Isaiah for like 3 minutes. He he continues to get like 3
- 7:47random minutes throughout the whole playoffs.
- 7:48I don't. Know he got 6 1/2 minutes and I
- 7:50think his minutes definitely need to go to Jay Will like it's
- 7:55clear that the way this series is gonna be won is through
- 7:58passing and controlling the boards.
- 8:01Those were the two key points that I pointed out in the
- 8:03preview and when we hit on those I'm gonna look at the rebound
- 8:08numbers with 50 rebounds. If we can get 50 rebounds, 25
- 8:13assists every game we can win the series.
- 8:15That's what I said about the play style like our play style
- 8:18has to be that style of game where we're controlling the
- 8:22possessions. It's not so much of, hey, we
- 8:25need to go all in on turning them over.
- 8:26We'll get that naturally. And even if we don't convert
- 8:29those, what matters more is the rebound battle because even if
- 8:34you're not converting your turnovers, you can still get a
- 8:37lot of possessions. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
- 8:40And how, how many points off turnovers do we have tonight?
- 8:42You have that up. We caused, we caused another 15,
- 8:47which was great. Today was just about getting
- 8:51back to, you know who we are. The one thing we're going to
- 8:55need on the bet on the road, sorry, not on the bench on the
- 8:58road, is J Dub needs to play like he did and Chad needs to
- 9:05step it up like he's been on the road and.
- 9:08Obviously. But Chad, Chad on the road's
- 9:11been huge for us throughout this playoffs, and he's going to be
- 9:14ginormous in Indiana. Like you guys said, that crowd's
- 9:17going to be lit. I think if we could slow them
- 9:22down early, we can take control of every game in this series.
- 9:26I'm not saying we're going to win out, but it's two games
- 9:30back-to-back where it was the same script.
- 9:32We were blowing them out the whole game, at least 14 plus and
- 9:37then we closed it tonight. First game, Albert went nuts.
- 9:41But it's just it's just about, I mean, Mark did the right thing.
- 9:46He found the right match ups tonight when they threw Thomas
- 9:48Bryant. We were throwing double big and
- 9:50it was working. It was working.
- 9:52We turned her off the floor. We were throwing one everything,
- 9:56all the rotate, the rotation looked great, Players look
- 9:58great. We should, we should be up to
- 10:01oh, but here we are one one. The key, the key moment came
- 10:05when we had that 19 to two run in the second quarter that led
- 10:10to like. It was 19 to 2.
- 10:11It was 19 to 2. It was a 19 to two run that led
- 10:14to a 23 point lead. That's really where we tipped
- 10:19the momentum. It was pretty decisive for us.
- 10:21So I thought that was the key moment that we definitely need
- 10:25to point out. And also we held Tyrese
- 10:27Halliburton in check mainly throughout the 1st 3/4.
- 10:31Three points, 3 assists, 3 rebounds through 3/4 triple or
- 10:35quadruple threes. Not looking good for him.
- 10:39And then also for game one, I think we're 18 and two in the
- 10:45postseason following a loss, so. So let me ask you this.
- 10:51What's up, man? I hear you bring up Tyrese
- 10:53Halliburton and I wanted, well, matter of fact, this is
- 10:55questions for both of you actually.
- 10:58And the trace. Based off of the way we played
- 11:01superstars or the opposing team star player, this whole play
- 11:05offs right. Whoever it was where there was a
- 11:08Grizzlies, Wolves, doesn't matter.
- 11:10How are we playing Tyrese Halliburton?
- 11:14Same way. The same.
- 11:16Are you sure though? I thought I mean, I don't.
- 11:19Think we're loading up the the the way we.
- 11:22Do well. Well, you don't, because he's
- 11:24not a prolific scorer. That's what I'm saying, so
- 11:26that's what I'm asking. Until it's time to win the game.
- 11:30Yeah, it. Was time to be a prolific
- 11:31scorer. But yeah, like he had 12 points
- 11:33in the fourth quarter tonight. He had five before that.
- 11:35But I mean, it's just a bunch of different bodies and we're able
- 11:38to switch. We're cutting off driving lanes
- 11:41for him and making him be a passer.
- 11:43What's he's? A and a jump shooter.
- 11:45And a jump shooter. He's a great passer.
- 11:47He's not a great jump shooter if he's hot damn.
- 11:49But we're forcing him to shoot the ball and kind of forcing it
- 11:54out of his hands. Like it's like fine, if you're
- 11:56going to shoot the three, shoot it 'cause he's way he's much
- 12:00better player when he's able to get in the lane and either get
- 12:03his floater up his layup or kick out.
- 12:05And if we keep him on the perimeter it it's it's pretty
- 12:09much the same way we regard everyone.
- 12:10We play a team defense, we switch, we swarm the ball and we
- 12:14make them jump here. We did the same thing with Ant
- 12:17and what was the first game and had like one shot in the
- 12:19painting game one of. The Yeah, literally like 2.
- 12:22Like that's what we do. I mean, Jokic is a bit different
- 12:25because it's a different position, but.
- 12:26I feel like one thing we did better is every time he got the,
- 12:32we won limited on him on the boards, which he couldn't push
- 12:35pace, pace in this game. And then on top of that, we also
- 12:40had one person spying him in a way where if he is going to push
- 12:44pace, we're going to stop him and slow him down.
- 12:46So I felt like that was a quick adjustment that we made
- 12:49throughout this game where it's like, OK, we know who their
- 12:53primary guy is and they kind of just focused in a lot more on
- 12:57him. And then that pretty much just
- 13:01killed their whole game plan. When he's not going, they don't
- 13:04really don't have much and I think they need to make an
- 13:07adjustment of something with their starting line up where I
- 13:11think I mentioned their best key point that they can do is add
- 13:14more play making into it. And honestly, I would start a
- 13:20guy like TJ McConnell or something next to him because he
- 13:24is a great primary ball handler in point guard.
- 13:27I mean, they need someone that. Can I see your point?
- 13:31It's Nemhard. Nemhard.
- 13:32He played point guard, he's played point guard and when he
- 13:35is on, he's. You might want to leave TJ where
- 13:37he's at bro. We saw him in game one.
- 13:39Nemhard isn't a traditional point.
- 13:41I'm talking about a traditional. A traditional playmaker point.
- 13:44Guard. They need a traditional play
- 13:45making point guard, yes, that is him.
- 13:49But when you only have one of them, you can limit it.
- 13:51When you have two of them, it gets harder.
- 13:53That's the point. Right, but that's why.
- 13:54But that's the thing, Like, that's why we were so confident
- 13:57coming into the series 'cause this team is playing outstanding
- 14:00basketball, really great team ball, but they're not as
- 14:02talented as the teams we played in the past.
- 14:05Yeah, yeah. That's what they, that's what.
- 14:06They lack. Well, there's not as.
- 14:09Preceding the ease. They're just not as talented as
- 14:11we are like. That's who you know.
- 14:14We have way more play making ability across the board that
- 14:18that's why I was shocked with the way we played.
- 14:20When I looked at the final scoreline of or like the assist
- 14:24line last game, I was like dumbfounded.
- 14:27That's where I was really like more angry with the team where
- 14:30it's like, yeah, we that's not how we play.
- 14:32So I'm glad we kind of switched that up.
- 14:34Also, we shot 55% from the field today.
- 14:36They shot 44. We also shot 50% from deep.
- 14:41That's unusual for the Thunder. We only took 18 shots from the
- 14:46three-point line. They took double us and they
- 14:49shot at 40%, which is around what they've been doing.
- 14:52So we also made our free throws. I was really happy about that
- 14:5788% from the free throw line. So I feel like just cutting the
- 15:03edge on the board's rebounding battle early, that just helped
- 15:08us a bunch because even if we're not turning them over, they're
- 15:11not getting extra possessions, things like that.
- 15:12So it's still a struggle though. And I think we're guarding this
- 15:18team. It's like it's, it's
- 15:21interesting. I didn't like I already went
- 15:25over Halliburton. We guard and I'm hard the same
- 15:27way we guard all all guards in the NBA.
- 15:30If he's going to cook, he's going to cook.
- 15:31Well, he's we held him the eight shots tonight in 32 minutes.
- 15:34So I mean, he shot 50%, but only 131 in.
- 15:37So that's how we have to guard Siakam.
- 15:39Siakam, we're just going to throw hella bodies at him.
- 15:43We learned tonight if Kasen gets stuck in the switch, he held his
- 15:47own until someone came out. He was letting.
- 15:49Out Kasen tonight. He was letting Siakam get into
- 15:52the paint before he caught the ball last game tonight.
- 15:55He wasn't allowing him to really get there.
- 15:57And if he did get there, there was already another body and
- 16:00we're just going to live and die with Miles Turner shooting the
- 16:02ball no matter where he shoots you're.
- 16:03Just going to have to bro. He's not a high volume scorer.
- 16:06That's what I. Have to, yeah.
- 16:08No one was arguing with me about that, about Miles Turner.
- 16:11I was like, we're going to live with that guy shooting all day
- 16:13long because I don't. If Miles Turner beats us in the
- 16:17series, great. But I just don't see that
- 16:19happening, obviously, especially across the couple games.
- 16:22The thing I'm most shocked about is Pascal Siakam.
- 16:25Like, I thought he's a lot better than he showed, you know,
- 16:30in the next series how good he was, and maybe that's just
- 16:33because of how bad the Knicks defense is, but man.
- 16:37Well, that's that's one reason. Another thing is see, Akham's
- 16:39always been All Star caliber, but he's so on and off like he
- 16:43could go for 40 and then he could go for a game like this.
- 16:4615 points he went three of 11. He shot 9 free throws.
- 16:50Great defender. He's he he's always getting at
- 16:53least like 2 blocks, it seems in this series so far, but he's a
- 16:56really good player, bro. Another thing I want to pat
- 17:00myself on the back here is I'll be toppings one for 8:00 tonight
- 17:05and that's what I expect most of the game.
- 17:06Like I not maybe not one for 8:00 but bro like.
- 17:09Not PJ Washington Junior, though he.
- 17:11Went five of eight from three in Game 1.
- 17:12He went one for 5:00 tonight. That's what we if he's hitting
- 17:16five threes, it's going to be tough to beat him.
- 17:18It's going to be tough to beat him.
- 17:19But he's not like that. He's not.
- 17:21This team doesn't have a bench that could really compete with
- 17:23ours. We saw that tonight when our
- 17:25bench unit first came in. That's where the run really
- 17:27started to happen. McConnell had 11, but like a
- 17:33couple baskets in the last couple minutes of the game.
- 17:36Obi had three points, Matheran had 14.
- 17:38But he's not a three-point threat.
- 17:39So we don't really, I mean, we could go back and forth with
- 17:42twos. As long as they're not spraying
- 17:43threes on us, we're fine. Like I'm fine with I'm I'd
- 17:46rather have Matheran have 14 than Obi shoot 55 for eight from
- 17:49three. I mean, he only shot 2 threes.
- 17:52Matheran Ben Shepherd or whatever the hell his name is,
- 17:55is irrelevant. Thomas Bryan is irrelevant.
- 17:58They took him out of the game once we started exploiting his
- 18:01defense. He's miserable on the defensive
- 18:03side of the ball. And if he wants to shoot a
- 18:04three, so be it. It's, it's, it's mismatch
- 18:10central. That's what it is.
- 18:11We we if, if Jaydub could score 25 on the road, we're going to
- 18:14win both games bro like. Yeah, he he's going to have to
- 18:17though, in my opinion. But but yeah, you're right
- 18:20though. I mean, their their bench can't
- 18:21compete with our bench and Thomas Bryant is miserable on
- 18:25defense. What?
- 18:27I mean, you never know, man. He's got to wait till Wednesday.
- 18:30And then I could also be picking though, like we won by 16
- 18:33tonight. I know it was a little bit more.
- 18:35The lead got kind of cut in the last two minutes when we didn't.
- 18:37Bench game in. You could also be picky, like
- 18:40with Caruso and Wiggins both scoring almost 20 points, 20 and
- 18:4318, and we won by 16. Are we supposed to win that game
- 18:47by 25? Like that's another way to look
- 18:49at it, but I think we're just dominant.
- 18:52Yeah, I was going to mention the the turnover.
- 18:55We had 15 turnovers on them and we converted that into seven
- 18:59points. So that's much better.
- 19:01Like you know, for the at least the ratio, we're still not
- 19:05converting as much as we need to.
- 19:06That's why I said we don't need to focus so much on the
- 19:10turnovers, but I do want to pull up the game charts like I
- 19:13normally do really quickly. We had.
- 19:17When the one, they are really good defensively getting back.
- 19:21You mentioned it in the first game recap and my brain was just
- 19:24so all over the place. I got to watch it really tonight
- 19:27and when we're coming off turnover, they already got 4-3
- 19:30or four guys back. Sometimes we're rushing it,
- 19:33sometimes we hold it. I'd like to see us hold it and
- 19:34get possession. But you were right on that.
- 19:40Wait, so we we forced 15 turnovers and how much look?
- 19:43At the rebound battle right here.
- 19:44We cooked the rebound back. Well, no, we did not this game.
- 19:47Two. Yeah, we did.
- 19:48No, it was 2. Hold on.
- 19:49It's only two rebounds. Yeah, but that's good, though.
- 19:53We're usually like. That's got to be skewed late.
- 19:55That's got to be skewed because of what happened late then.
- 19:57Well, a lot of. More than that, A.
- 19:58Lot of Indiana, Indiana gets a ton of offensive rebounds
- 20:02because they shoot long shots and that causes long rebounds.
- 20:05And if we're not boxing out, which is really hard to box out
- 20:08when you're running all over the place for 14 seconds as the
- 20:10reason goes up, that's where it comes in.
- 20:12But I'll take listen every OK C series we don't even win the
- 20:17rebound battle. We have to keep it within 7.
- 20:20That's what it is. Yeah, Yeah.
- 20:23We don't have to win the battle. I'm never going to say we need
- 20:25to win because in the regular season, we rarely won the battle
- 20:29from the rebounding perspective. But as long as we kept it close
- 20:32or decent and against worst teams, we usually turn them over
- 20:36and convert way higher rate. But against this team, they have
- 20:40great transition defense. So that's not happening.
- 20:43So that's where the rebounding actually does matter.
- 20:45And so I'm glad the whole team kind of locked in on that.
- 20:49And then obviously the assist battle, this is where the games
- 20:52are going to be won between these two stats, these this stat
- 20:56is directly correlated to this. So we did pretty well.
- 21:01We also had 13 turnovers ourselves, kind of uncharacter.
- 21:06A lot of them were early. Yeah, a lot of them were early,
- 21:09but also they were kind of weird turnovers themselves.
- 21:13But we shot much better in this game.
- 21:17We shot closer to we kind of matched their style in this
- 21:21game, shot great from the free or free throws and then point
- 21:26points in the paint. That's really another key factor
- 21:29that directly correlates with the assist battle because if
- 21:33we're getting in the paint, that means we're also getting a bunch
- 21:35of assists. So I really like to see that
- 21:38we're beating them. We're the more aggressive team.
- 21:40That's also what it shows. They're gonna get their fast
- 21:43break points. We kind of matched it with the
- 21:46second chance points here. So right, I thought it was a
- 21:50overall even battle, but this is kind of the way we this this is
- 21:53the exact style copy paste for the next three games.
- 21:57And we sweep them like 5-1 gentleman sweep, whatever.
- 22:01But if we do this, boom, easy. Like no question about it.
- 22:06So I do expect one of the Indiana games.
- 22:09I think next game we take it, but I do expect game. 4.
- 22:16I do expect game four to be really, really close.
- 22:20I think that's the one where it's going to be like coming
- 22:22down to the last couple seconds and if we can win, obviously
- 22:26game three and four, I know we'll close it out.
- 22:29So I'm hoping for that. Man this game got me pumped up.
- 22:34It's just about starting. It's crazy again, sorry.
- 22:40It's about starting fast offensively and on the road, not
- 22:44letting them hit the 1st 5 threes.
- 22:47They hit their first five threes.
- 22:48It's going to be a long game. If we could hit our first couple
- 22:50shots, hold them, you know it's going to be hard.
- 22:54Both games are going to be hard fought.
- 22:56And not just battling. Even tonight was hard fought and
- 22:59we were blowing them out. But I'm super confident.
- 23:03I think it also is much easier. Indiana's fucking fantastic.
- 23:07Like the atmosphere in Indiana. The fans are great, but I think
- 23:11it's easier to play in Indiana than it is than it is in
- 23:14Minnesota and Denver. I may be wrong, it's going to be
- 23:17loud, but I think we'll be much more comfortable on the road
- 23:20against Indiana. I can't think anymore.
- 23:26Just win the damn games. I'm having a breakdown over
- 23:29here. Yeah, let's go through some of
- 23:31these comments. Parker Mayo started off saying
- 23:36Tyrese was stressing after the game.
- 23:39Not sure if y'all saw when the camera panned over to him after
- 23:42he realized it was over. I actually noticed that before
- 23:45even the game was kind of starting to end.
- 23:47They panned over to him a bunch of times when he went to the
- 23:50bench and he kind of just, he looked really like upset,
- 23:56distraught. It didn't give calm.
- 24:00They lost. They lost the finals game.
- 24:02I'd be stressing too. Yeah, but it's.
- 24:05Not very easy to be like, all right, we just lost the game by
- 24:0720 Com we're definitely going to win the next because they know
- 24:11they're they probably know they're not better than OK C OK
- 24:13C won 68 games. I'd be stressing too.
- 24:15I'll also be stressing if my coach pulled us with four
- 24:18minutes left when all playoffs. Yeah, no in the.
- 24:20Last four minutes. I don't really understand.
- 24:22Surprised by that. But that just shows you right
- 24:25there though, Joe. That shows you right there.
- 24:28They did what they were set to do.
- 24:29In their minds, they did what they were set to do.
- 24:32Because you're right, he doesn't do that.
- 24:36Carlisle doesn't pull them that early into the 4th.
- 24:38Well, you know what I mean. It wasn't early, but you get the
- 24:40point. Like he doesn't do that.
- 24:43He was like, he wasn't fucking. We did our job.
- 24:45Let's stay healthy and. Get and they're banking on these
- 24:48next two games, bro. I was expecting them to play it
- 24:53out and try to gain some momentum because I I felt like
- 24:56they were playing really well up until the point he pulled him
- 24:58off. So I was kind of confused why he
- 25:00did that. You were kind of cutting the
- 25:02lead a little bit slowly and I was like yo, like why is he
- 25:05taking them out? It wasn't even, I think it was
- 25:07at like an 1820 point lead even at that point.
- 25:09So I was. Like Halliburton had a three to
- 25:11Halliburton had a three to cut it to 17 I believe at 4 minutes
- 25:14left, which God damn that's reasonable for.
- 25:18Them right, I know. But maybe it isn't, maybe it
- 25:22isn't. Maybe I'm just bugging.
- 25:24We got Steve's up in the chat. Right now, What else, Steve?
- 25:27How you? Doing.
- 25:28Yeah, we got. Home Bros also returning.
- 25:30What's going on, Broom? Yeah.
- 25:33And then once. Ended the way game one was
- 25:35supposed to Sonny D let's go let's start man that's.
- 25:39A cold picture. Alsambra also mentioned
- 25:43hopefully we can replicate this. That's pretty much what I was
- 25:45saying too. We can.
- 25:47If we can replicate this, we can steal the next two pretty
- 25:50handily. Yeah.
- 25:52Well, here's the thing. We replicated it again.
- 25:53We, we, it's very, we played better tonight, but again, we
- 25:59were still up 14151617 points last game all game.
- 26:04So yeah, the games were a bit different, but the score was the
- 26:08same until the end. So two games in a row we played
- 26:12the same exact game besides blowing it in the fourth
- 26:15quarter. I think Indiana's very good in
- 26:18the third quarter, but we held them, we won the quarter by one
- 26:21this time and then we finished the game off.
- 26:24So I think. Oh, a Nuggets fan.
- 26:28Yeah, we got a Nuggets fan. He's good.
- 26:30He he's been in the chat. Sometimes he roasts us.
- 26:32Sometimes he's nice. Nice.
- 26:33He was nice. Oh.
- 26:34Wow, awesome to see. Also we got Bradley who's always
- 26:40in the chat as well and he's always giving us great stats
- 26:43which I appreciate that I'm not the only stat dude on here.
- 26:47So SGA 13 games, 30 plus points has the most points in the first
- 26:55two games in his finals career, surpassing Allen Iverson.
- 26:58I think he also he has the most points surpassing Allen Iverson
- 27:02in game one as a debut game. So Shay's, I'm telling you guys,
- 27:08Shay's entering a different stratosphere and the
- 27:14conversation I hear around him is way lower than where people
- 27:19need to be putting him. Because I'm going to have to
- 27:21start hopping on some of these podcasts or something, man,
- 27:24'cause it's getting getting ridiculous.
- 27:28Yeah, Shay's at 3K points. That's what I mentioned earlier.
- 27:32Joins, obviously, Kobe, Michael, I'm not going to go through the
- 27:38rest of these comments, but they're pretty fun.
- 27:42You guys got any other closing remarks, I feel like?
- 27:45It's pretty. It's one.
- 27:47Win any questions? What do you guys think?
- 27:50That post me that you sent me earlier on Instagram?
- 27:53Did you see swipe a Cam in the comments?
- 27:56I saw he was. Crying.
- 27:58He was crying talking about how Denver would have beat us and
- 28:01done us in in four or five. He's been.
- 28:03He's been crying on his timeline on X since he lost.
- 28:07He's been crying on Player's Choice for the past 24 hours.
- 28:12He was crying this morning or whatever he was on talking about
- 28:16Shay and probably about that offensive board that he let
- 28:19Pascal have. This dude is so attached to the
- 28:23Thunder and Shay because it actually disrupts Jokic's
- 28:27legacy. Like focus on your own team,
- 28:30focus on your own player. Like, I hate the this is what I
- 28:34hate about NBA discourse a lot. Where you have LeBron James,
- 28:39then you have to, if you're a fan of LeBron, you got to pull
- 28:42down Michael's. Yeah.
- 28:44And if you're a fan of Michael? You gotta pull LeBron down.
- 28:47Like, dude, they're freaking legends.
- 28:49They're top two top three players.
- 28:51Same thing with Shay. He's top two, top three right
- 28:53now. No, no, no, top 2, not even top
- 28:56three. He's top 2 right now and
- 28:58arguably #1 player in the world. And obviously I'd have a problem
- 29:02with that too if a guy like this was surpassing my favorite
- 29:06player. And I think that's what 29 other
- 29:07fan bases have a problem with Shay and our team is we keep
- 29:11surpassing them. And we saw that with Russell
- 29:14Westbrook when he won his MVP and he still gets hate till till
- 29:17this day. And I think the Shea and Thunder
- 29:20hate is going to quadruple next season.
- 29:22I can't wait for it. Especially when I win.
- 29:25Yeah, I don't really. I don't really care anymore.
- 29:28I'm. Going to get a shirt?
- 29:30I'm going to get a shirt with a quote with that quote of as the
- 29:34Thunder win more games, the more hate we get something like that.
- 29:38I'm I'm going to get that on a shirt, man and wear that next
- 29:41season. That's.
- 29:42Just how it goes, bro. It's whatever I'll close with.
- 29:47The NBA kind of sucks. The NBA itself is great.
- 29:51I love the NBA. But for you to put the Larry
- 29:55O'Brien Trophy on the floor? Oh.
- 29:58Man. It was like an animated.
- 30:00Yeah, final trophy. Ridiculous.
- 30:03That's just like here, fuck it, you guys been asking for it
- 30:06here. Like that was fucking terrible.
- 30:12That bothered me a lot, honestly.
- 30:14I actually thought they were on the floor for a second and then
- 30:16I was like, Oh no. And yeah, I, I mean, that
- 30:22bothered me. There was one more thing that
- 30:25bothered me, but fuck it, we want We're one-on-one heading
- 30:28into Indiana and I'm excited. I'm excited.
- 30:32First finals win since game 1/20/12.
- 30:34So I. Know, yeah.
- 30:36Happy. Tonight right give a quick you
- 30:39don't have to give a preview predict next game.
- 30:42What do you guys think, capers? Go first, want to be tough.
- 30:45I'm listening to me. I'm going to say it again for
- 30:47everybody who missed it or didn't hear it.
- 30:50They have not been in the finals since 2000.
- 30:55This is their first home Finals game since then.
- 30:59It's 1 to one. That crowd is going to go
- 31:03berserk, at least at the very least for that game.
- 31:06It's going to be extremely tough to win that game.
- 31:09Not saying we're not, not saying we can't.
- 31:11It's going to be extremely tough in that building.
- 31:14We're going to find out what this OKC team is really made of
- 31:18next Wednesday. Now as AI, guess you could say a
- 31:21prediction. I predict that game to go.
- 31:23I don't know who's going to win it.
- 31:25I predict that game to go all the way down to the wire,
- 31:29somebody's going to have to make shots, somebody's going to have
- 31:31to get stops and rebounds. I don't know who's going to do
- 31:34it yet. I'll sleep on it and let you
- 31:36know. Like I said, this game just
- 31:37ended, what, an hour ago? So that's my prediction.
- 31:42That's a good point. I'm sure we'll do a preview too,
- 31:44but yeah, it's. Going to be tough.
- 31:47That game is going to be tough. It's whoever wrote.
- 31:53That guys, that was me. That was good for me.
- 31:59I, I think I think Capers is being funny bro.
- 32:04I think you know him saying they haven't been to the finals and
- 32:09since 2000. It's going to be really soul
- 32:14crushing when they lose. Yeah, it's.
- 32:16Going to be tough, tough on Indiana fans when they lose.
- 32:19I think we win the game. I think if J, Dub and Chet play
- 32:22well, we win, and I think it's as simple as that.
- 32:25Jada plays better on the road, by the way.
- 32:27I think he does. I think he like he does.
- 32:29Oh no, his stats in the Denver series on the road destroyed
- 32:33them. So even in the Minnesota series,
- 32:36I noticed he plays really well on the road.
- 32:38I don't know what it is. I think it's like.
- 32:40Game four he played very well. Yeah, I don't know what it is,
- 32:42but he plays well. I.
- 32:44Don't know but I'm going to take OKC to win game 3.
- 32:50Pretty, I think it'll be down the stretch again, but I think
- 32:54it'll be more like, Oh my God, Indiana's within 8, Indiana's
- 32:58within 6, but nothing more than that.
- 33:00I, I think if we play the right way, I was going to say because
- 33:03Shay's proven to me like he's going to, he's going to be there
- 33:07no matter what. He's the best player in the
- 33:10world right now. I don't give a fuck.
- 33:14And it's all up to J Dub and Chad.
- 33:15And if they play well, we're just going to, we're going to
- 33:17win. So I'll take an OK C win, but
- 33:20I'll break it more down in our preview.
- 33:22Yeah, I'm hoping we win the next one.
- 33:24If we win the next one, it's going in five.
- 33:27If we lose the next one, we're going in six.
- 33:29Regardless, we're winning the series.
- 33:31It's not going seven games. If you're putting live bets or
- 33:34whatever, or adjusted bets, go ahead and you know you can put
- 33:39that down on me, no worries. I I don't think I don't know if
- 33:44I can handle a Game 4 being down to 1 again.
- 33:46I don't think I can do it again. Let's just go ahead.
- 33:50Just go in one game bro. I, I can handle it.
- 33:53I, I, we, we went to Nugget series and I think we're, I
- 33:57think we're just the better team from the eye test alone.
- 34:00The stats don't have to even back us up that much.
- 34:02It's, it's, it's obvious. I mean, we see it.
- 34:05So it is the finals. One thing I do agree with Caper
- 34:10is that crowd, man, that crowd's gonna be.
- 34:12People don't realize our crowd is feisty and we had a long
- 34:19stretch of games. So there's history of people
- 34:21noticing that the Thunder crowd is like like that.
- 34:25But the Pacers aren't really in the playoffs like all that
- 34:28often, especially not in the NBA Finals.
- 34:30That crowd is going to be absolutely nuts.
- 34:33I cannot wait. I'm excited to see how they play
- 34:36so. I have somebody telling me who
- 34:39works in the WNBA. He'll remain anonymous, but he
- 34:43said OKC wins in six when Caitlin Clark isn't in Indiana
- 34:49for Game 6 because apparently she's not going to be available
- 34:51to be at the game. That's what he said.
- 34:54He also said that J Dub's going to go for 26 and Thunder win the
- 34:57next game, so we'll see. Hope he's right about the next
- 35:01game. I think in both game one and two
- 35:04for J dub, he's not he's he's honestly missing some really
- 35:09easy shots that he typically hits.
- 35:12He's just missing. Like he's got nervous.
- 35:15You could see it on his body, some of his passes early.
- 35:17He was like, I don't know, like he was throwing it to the ground
- 35:20and shit. But he'll, he'll be all right.
- 35:22He's playing a little quick and I think he just needs to slow it
- 35:26down just a tad. And for whatever reason, he does
- 35:31that on the road and I think he'll hit the shots that he's
- 35:33been missing in the first two games.
- 35:35So I'm not too worried about him.
- 35:36The other guy, Chet, man, Chet, come on, man.
- 35:41Like I'm wearing your jersey right now.
- 35:44Look at this. We need you.
- 35:47We need you to be locked in playing the way you played
- 35:50today. I saw he made a huge effort on
- 35:55defense like he was he was closing out on shooters like the
- 36:00way we need it in game one, honestly.
- 36:02Playing great man. Yeah, if he shuffles his feet,
- 36:05plays defense like that on the perimeter and then we know what
- 36:08he's going to do down low. I need another game like that in
- 36:11terms of effort. The points and stuff will come
- 36:14for him because he's just naturally a really good player.
- 36:16He's gonna hit his shots, he's gonna do his thing.
- 36:18We get him the ball. That's the other thing.
- 36:21They made an effort to get him the ball.
- 36:22Hartenstein got 4 assists. That one lob to him was huge.
- 36:26A lot of kick outs to him as well.
- 36:29So we need to continue feeding the the guy that we know is that
- 36:32skilled. And that's where it's confusing
- 36:34to me why we would ever go away from beating a guy like Chet.
- 36:40Usually a lot of points. They made it a point to get him
- 36:43going early. Him and him and Cason.
- 36:46Really. I mean.
- 36:47Because not only that, he looked confident, guys, he looked like
- 36:51he didn't have nerves. He looked like he's been there
- 36:54before. Yeah, he settled in now we got
- 36:57to do it on the road. Yeah, you have.
- 36:59We got to remember this is all these guys.
- 37:01First finals run, I mean, in game one, Lou Dort had five
- 37:06steals, 5 threes in his first debut game.
- 37:09Fayed 38. Like these guys are playing at a
- 37:13crazy rate for the age that they're at.
- 37:15Like Chet should not be playing at this level.
- 37:19Like he shouldn't be competing with a guy that's a 10 year vet
- 37:23in Miles Turner. Like that shouldn't even be a
- 37:26conversation. That should never happen in the
- 37:28NBA. But he's doing that and so kudos
- 37:31to him and hopefully he keeps that up.
- 37:34The one part of his growth that I want to see, I had to worry
- 37:38about this in the regular season.
- 37:39I mentioned it where his ball handling needs a little bit of
- 37:42work. I need him in the lab this
- 37:45summer. Turn into KD, get your handles
- 37:48up it. Ain't going to happen, bro.
- 37:50No, no, no, it ain't going. It will, it will.
- 37:52He's already really good at handling the ball against lesser
- 37:56teams in general, but he gets his handles up a little bit more
- 38:02and he can get to the rack a little bit more.
- 38:04That's where his game's going to expand and the Thunder itself is
- 38:08going to probably win 70 plus games if he can do that so.
- 38:12Yeah, if they can work with him. I agree.
- 38:14Not fully KD but. Not fully, not fully on that
- 38:17level, but I'm saying like. I I guess your point, yeah.
- 38:20As long as he's able to make it, you know, where he's not getting
- 38:24ripped a lot and the ball's stolen, where people are a
- 38:27little bit more afraid of his ball handling because right now
- 38:30they really don't fear. Like when he has the rock and he
- 38:32puts it on the ground, they're attacking him, you know, trying
- 38:35to get the steals. If he can get it a little bit
- 38:38tighter, like, yeah, this team's going to skyrocket.
- 38:43They'll continue to work on his shot, his handles, and his post
- 38:46game. He's going to be a fucking
- 38:48beast. But for now, I think we're all
- 38:52set. No more comments.
- 38:54We got to get to all right well appreciate everybody joining 11
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