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- 0:00Good morning ten o eight. Hope you're all doing well. If you're just
- 0:03tuning in. Thank you so much for turning on the radio and listening to
- 0:06AM eight hundred ckl W. John Lydkey. Here, we are going to
- 0:11carry over a conversation that we were having on the round table, shifting our
- 0:16focus to Halifax, where they've got a plan to revitalize their downtown core and
- 0:23it has seventeen recommendations from improving accessibility to the harbor, which sounds kind of
- 0:28familiar. Quite frankly, they're focusing on their biggest asset. They also are
- 0:32going to be focused on neighborhoods, entertainment, and transportation. Their report has
- 0:37no plans to expand parking, but what it does look towards doing is developing
- 0:42a bus rapid transit system for downtown routes, pedestrian first designs for streets,
- 0:48and establishing a complete network of protected bike lanes. I like this idea.
- 0:54It's called Vision twenty thirty, and it's recognizing that people want to be able
- 0:58to live in a downtown core, get to a downtown core, work,
- 1:02eat, play, live, thrive and survive and all of those great things.
- 1:07And it doesn't sound all that different, although conceptually a little bit here
- 1:10or there. Then our strengthen the core plan, which built on our Windsor
- 1:14Works plan, and the focus that, of course our council has on how
- 1:18to get our downtown back to a better place than it's at right now.
- 1:23Our downtown has a lot of great opportunities, there's no doubt about that,
- 1:26but it needs a bit of that TLC that tender love and care joining me
- 1:30right now to discuss what he thinks downtown should look like and this plan from
- 1:36Halifax, and if we could maybe r and d ripoff and duplicate some of
- 1:40those elements and bring it over is ward one counselor Fred Francis, thanks for
- 1:44sticking around front. Yeah, thank you. Apparently I'm on the radio too
- 1:48much based on that text you just read to me, so I don't know,
- 1:51maybe you should have got someone else. Well, listen, we had
- 1:53a room full of three people and you were the only one who said yes.
- 1:57Now, what do you think about this when you look toward Halifax.
- 2:00I can't stop thinking about the similarities between Halifax and Windsor. They have a
- 2:05downtown core that it wasn't in the best place neighborhoods that were far off and
- 2:09arteries that connected them that people just drove down, very similar to what we
- 2:14deal with. Yeah, and I mean obviously waterfront, but they haven't a
- 2:19marina down there, right, so they have it's very harbor esque and it's
- 2:23very beautiful downtown Halifax, and they have all the shops, the decks,
- 2:29the patios that kind of oversee all that. That'd be great if we had
- 2:31a marina downtown, even a smaller one that we could incorporate with the one
- 2:36on the east end, just to allow for more diversity of traffic. And
- 2:39you spoke about that with respective transit, anything that's not just vehicle based,
- 2:46So yeah, sure, I mean i'd also point to Montreal and what they
- 2:50do with bikes and bike lanes and their bike active transportation network. So I
- 2:54think every downtown to a certain degree is different. You know, we have
- 3:00our strengths, we have our weaknesses that might be similar or different than other
- 3:02communities. But when we look at all these downtown plans, you have to
- 3:07be able to take what works and what doesn't work. And it doesn't matter
- 3:09if it's a big city or a small city. You kind of course correct
- 3:13for scope and scale. But a good idea is a good idea and it
- 3:19could work anywhere. So if we're able to take good ideas from other municipalities,
- 3:23be it Halifax or anywhere else, we should Calgary pedestrian walkways, streets
- 3:28are closed for bastrian traffic. I'll throw it out to our sister city in
- 3:30Manheim, Germany. They essentially have a transit network. It's more of a
- 3:35trolley network that you know, runs like a transit system, like a bus
- 3:38system, and you just hop on the trolley and you get to two blocks
- 3:42away, and these things are running constantly and you just hop on and you
- 3:45get off at will, so you know, and that's a sister city.
- 3:47So there's things we can do obviously, I mean, and there's things we
- 3:52have done with active transportation. You see the bird scooters and the bird bikes,
- 3:55you know, So we'll continue to build on it. But I think
- 3:59when it comes to our down town, the number one issue is and we've
- 4:01shown that a few weeks ago with Strengthen, the core plan is crime and
- 4:06prevention and making things more safe and secure. And once we're able to do
- 4:12that, then I think you're going to see a more foot traffic, more
- 4:15investment, and hopefully more people coming down there and living down there in the
- 4:18downtown core. Yeah. I mean we did see that once the Strength and
- 4:24the Core plan was announced and there was the big concert that happened on Olett
- 4:28Avenue a couple of weeks ago, and we saw more uniformed officers walking on
- 4:31the streets. It was a very different environment than it is without them there.
- 4:35And there's obviously lots of work that's being done with the H four hub
- 4:40and everything to try to deal with these situations on our streets. But I
- 4:44recognize that it has to be the safety angle first and then the rest can
- 4:46flow from that. It seems to me, though, like when we're talking
- 4:50about our streets specifically, that there is a built in, inherent aversion to
- 4:57thinking of doing anything maybe per that doesn't put the car at the forefront of
- 5:02the discussion. And look, I get it, we're windsor we're automotive town
- 5:05through and through, it's our backbone. People hear conversations about limiting car access
- 5:10and they get very upset, and the texting platform will show it. Is
- 5:15that what it's like, I mean, around the council table, it seems
- 5:16like getting protected bike lanes. We don't have an inch of them in our
- 5:23city. I mean, why is it that it seems so difficult to get
- 5:27somewhere? I mean, we have a story that we're gonna be talking about
- 5:29just later on today about protected bike lanes on Windott Street and why our own
- 5:32staff recommended to council to you not to proceed with it. What's up with
- 5:38this? Oh? I think it's probably and I could be wrong on this,
- 5:40but I think it comes out to cost. You know, they're expensive,
- 5:43would cost a lot. Yeah, and you know, I think this
- 5:45is something I've moved on in my ten years on council. And listen,
- 5:47nice thing about being on council for a long time. You grow, or
- 5:50at least you hope you do, and you learn, and I'm not ashamed
- 5:54to admit I'll look back and say, you know what my position on this
- 5:57issue is change or you know, knowing what I know now, I probably
- 6:00would vote differently now than I would eight years ago. And a lot of
- 6:02that I have to kind of give credit to, you know, my former
- 6:05counselor colleagues, Chris Salt and Renal Bordland, you know, not having them
- 6:10on Council. Now you kind of appreciate the ideas and perspectives they brought on
- 6:14council in the past eight years, and a lot of what a lot of
- 6:17that what we're talking about now, and some of the things that we saw
- 6:19in strengthen the Core Plan came from a lot of things that they were pushing
- 6:24for in the eight years they were on council. So you know, sometimes
- 6:27it just takes time. And even some of the things they were pushing for
- 6:30I see differently today than I did back then. So you know, as
- 6:32a politician, you have to admit that, and you have to go Okay,
- 6:34maybe in some cases I was wrong and they were right, but you
- 6:39have to be able to grow. You have to be able to acknowledge that.
- 6:42But I really don't have a problem with protected bike lanes. I see,
- 6:45I see how they work in Montreal, and if we can make them
- 6:48work in windsor if we could do it in a way that is not going
- 6:51to break the bank, but it's going to increase safety and increase investment,
- 6:56then I don't know why we wouldn't look at that. And and and this
- 6:59goes to what I've been saying for a few years now with respect to how
- 7:02we spend our money at City Hall. You know, we're on Monday,
- 7:06we're talking about the ice rink project. It's six million dollars over budget.
- 7:10It's fifteen million dollar project for an ice rink essentially, right, And is
- 7:15that a priority or can we take that fifteen million dollars and spend it on
- 7:18protected bike lanes or whatever else, or a marina or whatever. When you
- 7:23add that to the Beacon trolley project, which was ten million, that's essentially
- 7:27twenty five million dollars that was spent for capital and infrastructure projects in the downtown,
- 7:32which is fine. That's council's prerogative to decide how that money is spent.
- 7:35But I'm of the opinion that that money for both those projects could have
- 7:40been spent on more priority based projects, be it protected bike lanes, be
- 7:45it safety and security measures, be it on homelessness initiative, whatever. Right,
- 7:49So it's a matter of we have the money, how do we spend
- 7:53it, and how do we prioritize what we spend it on. And that's
- 7:56kind of what I'm sounding the alarm on right now, have been for the
- 8:00past several years, is how are we spending our money, and if we
- 8:03spend our money properly on things that are basics and infrastructure investments that add to
- 8:09it in a real, real day situation, then perhaps we don't have to,
- 8:13you know, increase taxes to pay for the things like that. You
- 8:16know, if I had to choose between the esplanade project in front of City
- 8:20Hall, which to me is quite frankly just more of a city Hall beautification
- 8:24project. Quite frankly, I mean, we did not have many days that
- 8:28an ice rink would have even worked this past winter. I don't know if
- 8:33spending money on an ice rink is the smartest thing for the you know,
- 8:35southernmost city in Canada that we doing. I'd rather see that money go going
- 8:41towards shutting down some streets. As you were discussing having pedestrian only walkways in
- 8:46our core, I think that is probably one of the ways that you could
- 8:48most revitalize things. You look towards the downtown market and I don't know if
- 8:52Polisha would be a streak that you could shut down. I think it could.
- 8:54You could probably make a case for it. Thousands of people come out
- 8:58every Saturday when we open streets happen, we see the same thing. There
- 9:03is such an appetite for that, But again, I don't know if the
- 9:05appetite around the council table could occur. Yeah, And you know, it's
- 9:09not a matter And I always say this, like we could disagree without being
- 9:13disagreeable. We could have It's not a matter of someone being right or wrong.
- 9:16It's just a different difference of opinion. And you know, listen,
- 9:20I'm gonna I'll get attacked for what I just said. I'll get calls from
- 9:24my political from my council colleagues, my political colleagues, and saying, well,
- 9:28why do you say that? Or Fred's wrong or whatever. Right,
- 9:31But again, it's just my opinion. And all I'm saying is I'm not
- 9:35saying that it's a bad idea. I'm just saying, is that a priority
- 9:39for today or should we look at it five years from now, ten years
- 9:43from now? Because we have to put together a list of our priorities.
- 9:46But we have to measure that list of priorities with the resources we have,
- 9:50the money we have to invest, and we also have to factor in affordability.
- 9:54We can't just raise taxes year after year to pay for everything. We
- 9:56have to pay for the needs and the wants, it's not and people can't
- 10:00afford to do that. So, based on the limited resources we have,
- 10:03which are ample, we have significant amount of resources. Based on the money
- 10:07we have coming in, how are we spending that money properly? And how
- 10:11are we spending that money where it's making a bang for your buck. Be
- 10:15it pedestrian walkways, be it more lighting, be it more cameras, be
- 10:18it more police, be it whatever. If the strength, if the strength,
- 10:22and the core planned told us our priority for downtown is safety and security,
- 10:26then our priority should be safety and security initiatives in the downtown core and
- 10:31across the city. Then why are we spending money on anything other than that?
- 10:37Amenities are nice, like you've said this before, like these would all
- 10:41be lovely things to have. I've heard you give a couple interviews about this.
- 10:45But again, it comes down to just is it a need right now?
- 10:48And I think a lot of people when they look around at the state
- 10:50of things, whether it be housing affordability, or the state of our downtown
- 10:54more broadly, at people who are in need of mental health help and addictions
- 10:58support, or people will look at I think I can't speak for them,
- 11:03but you know, there are a lot of things that need to be done,
- 11:07and the old adages, you know, show me your budget and I'll
- 11:09throw show you your priorities. And I think it reflects that it would be
- 11:13nice to have the esplanade, but I think some more concrete measures, like
- 11:16what Halifax is looking to do, could probably be the most impactful. Yeah,
- 11:20I agree, and I think there's a lot of people in the city
- 11:20that agree with you on Matt and me as well. And you know,
- 11:24the easy thing to say, the easy thing, and the political expedient thing
- 11:26to do as well. Fred just wants to, you know, not raise
- 11:30taxes, and he just wants to put all the money to roads, roads
- 11:31and sewers. And that's not city building. I mean, that's not what
- 11:35I'm saying at all. I'm saying, let's talk with the people what our
- 11:37priorities are, and let's ensure that we're spending the money in an appropriate way
- 11:43to build our city, to make it safer, to make it more secure,
- 11:46to make it more attractive. You know, I had a conversation this
- 11:48week with Parks and Rec about the welcome to windsor signs we see entering into
- 11:52the city. A lot of them, or at least the ones on Malden,
- 11:56the one on match It. They should have been replaced four or five
- 11:58years ago. They're great. They started off white. Like, why are
- 12:01we not spending money to replace the signs that say welcome to windsor that have
- 12:05updated population numbers on them. This is the first thing people see when they
- 12:09enter our city, right, Why? Like that's a priority. Right,
- 12:15we should make those signs attractive. We should make our gateways attractive. I
- 12:18brought up the Doogal about right outside here, the ramp above Doogal where Jackson
- 12:22Park is. We did that whole stretch of roadway, and the median is
- 12:26a patchwork of concrete. It doesn't even match. It doesn't look nice.
- 12:30So can we focus on our gateways? Can we focus on our projects?
- 12:33Can we focus on the basics. Can we have the attention to detail that
- 12:37we require to make sure the city looks great? Can we ensure the grass
- 12:41is cut? Can we ensure the parks are clean?