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The Six Secrets to Suze’s Success - Revisited · Suze Orman's Women & Money (And Everyone Smart Enough To Listen)

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  Robert: December 21st, 2025. Welcome to the Women in Money podcast,
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  Robert: as well as everyone smart enough to listen. Hi, everybody, Robert,
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  Robert: the producer here. Now, as we get to the end
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  Robert: of the year, we all need to take a little
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  Robert: bit of a break. Suze and KT are working on
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  Robert: a special episode for Christmas Day this coming Thursday, so
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  Robert: we're giving them a respite from working today.
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  Robert: Now, if you're new to the podcast, first of all,
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  Robert: thank you very much for listening. Second, when KT and
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  Robert: Suze take a break, we still like for you to
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  Robert: have something to listen to in the feed, and the
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  Robert: episode you're gonna hear highlights from is the right message
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  Robert: for today. Well, actually, for any day, really. But see,
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  Robert: as we all turn to being reflective and thinking about
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  Robert: ways that we can all be who we're meant to be,
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  Robert: this particular episode that KT conceived of,
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  Robert: Is exactly what we should hear right now. Enjoy.
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  KT: It's called the Six Secrets to Suze's Success.
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  Suze: What?
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  KT: Yeah.
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  KT: It's the Six Secrets to Suze's success. So wait, let,
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  KT: let me tell everybody what that is.
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  KT: For years, for almost 25 years, maybe not all of these,
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  KT: but most of them, I've been hearing Suze impart incredible
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  KT: Suzieisms and quotes and great information, whether she's talking, being interviewed,
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  KT: or just meeting someone that needs help
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  Suze: Or I'm talking to myself.
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  KT: Or she just talks to herself. Anyway, I've been collecting
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  KT: these and, and, and one day when I have enough,
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  KT: I wanna do something special with them, but right now,
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  KT: I'm gonna share six of these Suzeisms. They're quotes, they're
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  KT: things that she lives by and, and because she lives
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  KT: by them, we all should live by them.
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  KT: And I especially live by number six. So what I'm
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  KT: gonna do is I wanna read what I've jotted down
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  KT: of what I remember and what she pretty much says.
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  Suze: You're sure you have them right?
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  KT: I, they're pretty much right, but, but, yeah, they're right, because...
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  Suze: If they're not, is it OK if I correct them?
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  KT: Suze's gonna tell you what they mean. She's gonna explain.
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  KT: I'm just gonna read the six secrets.
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  Suze: Did you ask me if this is what I wanna do?
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  KT: This is what we're doing. Do you wanna do it?
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  Suze: Do I have a choice? Here we are.
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  KT: Do you want to?
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  Suze: I always wanna do what you want me to do.
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  KT: No, you wanna do what everyone needs to hear and,
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  KT: and from us.
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  Suze: I know you know that for everybody. So if you
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  Suze: feel I really love that you wanna be on the
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  Suze: podcast on Sunday when Sunday school, so this is Sunday
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  Suze: school we're imparting.
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  Suze: We're goingto the KT church. We're going to church.
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  KT: No, it's not church. It's school. It's Sunday school. We're
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  KT: always in, you and I, we have a, a streamlined
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  KT: direct line to God every day. We don't need church.
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  Suze: Can I just tell everybody what I do say?
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  Suze: Right, and people always say something to me like this, Suze, right,
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  Suze: from your lips to God's ears. Know how everybody always
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  Suze: says that to me, and what do I say to them?
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  Suze: Oh yeah, trust me, right? He hears every word I say,
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  Suze: every thought that I think, every action that I do, everybody,
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  Suze: I think it's important that you do take out your
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  Suze: Suze notebooks.
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  Suze: And I think you should write these down because I
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  Suze: can tell by the look on KT's face that these
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  Suze: are serious quotes. These are life transforming.
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  KT: Well, they're, they're mostly what you really believe in and
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  KT: live by. OK, so here you go. Six secrets to
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  KT: Suze's success. Number One.
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  KT: The day you put your needs in front of others'
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  KT: wants is the day you will have really started on
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  KT: your road to financial freedom.
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  Suze: The most important part of that saying, what I say
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  Suze: to myself, everybody, is the day you put your needs,
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  Suze: now listen, do you know what your needs are? Do
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  Suze: you just live your life and you don't even do
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  Suze: anything that you need to do?
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  KT: So the first part of that saying is that you
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  KT: need to know what you need. What do you need
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  KT: to be happy? What do you need to be secure?
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  KT: What do you need to feel powerful? You have to
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  KT: know what those things are, so you are to write
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  KT: down your needs. Let me just give you a very
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  KT: slight example really of what it would be. Here you are,
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  KT: and you're building up your emergency savings account.
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  Suze: You're sending every month $100 into Alliant Credit Union because
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  Suze: you want to take advantage of the ultimate opportunity savings account,
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  Suze: which I know so many of you are doing and
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  Suze: you want to do, but yet your kids, it was
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  Suze: the holiday time, or maybe it's their birthday or whatever
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  Suze: it may be, they want a new pair of sneakers,
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  Suze: and it's $100.
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  Suze: And that's the $100 that you need to send in
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  Suze: every month to your savings account.
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  Suze: You have to put your needs in front of others' wants,
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  Suze: and if you do that, that's when you really are
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  Suze: on the road to financial freedom. Next, KT, what else?
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  KT: That's great. Number two, I love this one.
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  KT: Success alone will never ever lead you to fulfillment. Fulfillment
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  KT: will always lead you to success. It's one of my favorite.
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  KT: Suze really lives by this, everybody.
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  Suze: You know, all of you strive for success, whatever that
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  Suze: may mean to all of you.
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  Suze: But mostly success means you're making a lot of money.
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  Suze: You have a big house to show others, you have
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  Suze: a fancy car, you're wearing fancy clothes, and you're just
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  Suze: successful that way.
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  Suze: But yet you really hate your job. You really don't
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  Suze: like what you're doing, but you're attached to the paycheck.
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  Suze: You're attached to everything that you have around you, but
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  Suze: yet inside you're not fulfilled.
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  Suze: I'm here to tell you that you're not successful.
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  Suze: If that is true and you yourself are not fulfilled,
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  Suze: you are not successful. When you can do something that
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  Suze: truly fulfills you, it will always lead you to success financially, spiritually, emotionally,
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  Suze: on all levels. So your goal is to have inner fulfillment.
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  Suze: And it will manifest with outer wealth.
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  KT: Yeah, love what you do.
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  Suze: You know, KT, I just want to give you a
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  Suze: little example of that. Last night, it's very funny you
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  Suze: picked that. I got an email from one of our relatives,
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  Suze: all right, and in it he said to me, Suze,
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  Suze: I know I'm making a lot of money. I know
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  Suze: everything's going great that way. I just don't like my
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  Suze: job anymore.
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  KT: Who was that?
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  Suze: I, I'll tell you after the podcast, all right, and
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  Suze: he said to me, Can we talk about it because
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  Suze: I'm getting sick, I'm not healthy. The financial reward doesn't
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  Suze: matter anymore, and I need your advice on what should
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  Suze: I do and how do I do it. So that's
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  Suze: a perfect example of that saying. So your timing is
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  Suze: funny on that.
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  Suze: Because he also listens to the podcast every single week,
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  Suze: so he knows who he is. We will talk later today, he.
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  KT: I'm just thinking it's not one of my brothers.
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  Suze: No, it's on my side of the family.
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  KT: All right.
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  KT: Yeah, because my, none of my brothers are gonna call
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  KT: saying money doesn't matter anymore. All right, here you go.
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  KT: So number three, this is probably Suze's personal most favorite,
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  KT: and I hear her impart this over and over and
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  KT: over again.
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  KT: To people that really need it, but she has said
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  KT: it to herself for years.
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  Suze: Oh, I'm so excited to hear this one. Should I
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  Suze: guess it?
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  KT: Ready.. She's gonna guess it. It's her one of her,
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  KT: it's her favorite animal as well. The elephant keeps walking
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  KT: as the dogs keep barking.
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  KT: Suze loves this, and I think it's also something that
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  KT: was inspired from India. The elephant keeps walking as the
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  KT: dogs keep barking. What a great saying. What does that
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  KT: mean to you, Suze?
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  Suze: I'm surprised you picked that one.
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  KT: Is it one of your favorites?
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  Suze: It is. There's two, as you know...
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  Suze: But this one, this one, I really love this one,
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  KT: Probably because you've said it to yourself.
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  Suze: And let me tell you why, everybody, I said it
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  Suze: to myself so many times.
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  Suze: It's interesting in life that as you're going up the ladder,
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  Suze: or getting more and more, whatever you're doing, you're expanding,
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  Suze: everybody's rooting for you.
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  KT: And I'll just give you a personal example of my
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  KT: own life. As I started out being an author and
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  KT: I started to do things and my books were out
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  KT: there and I was making more money and getting out,
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  KT: everybody was like, Yeah, Suze, go for it, go for it.
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  KT: But once you get to the very, very top, which
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  KT: I did.
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  Suze: You couldn't get much higher than I got at one
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  Suze: point in time.
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  Suze: But once you get up there, there are people who
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  Suze: are jealous, and it just for some reason in my
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  Suze: case and I think others, then people like to tear
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  Suze: you down because negative press sells more than positive press.
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  Suze: It just does everybody and people started to write things
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  Suze: about me like, oh, "Suze the Floozy," and there was
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  Suze: a magazine that came out that was filled with total
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  Suze: lies about me.
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  Suze: Like there was an attack on me. Things would happen.
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  Suze: Things just happen as you become more and more successful.
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  Suze: So it's really important that you know who you are,
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  Suze: what you are, and how do you keep going. So
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  Suze: this saying, The elephant keeps walking as the dogs keep
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  Suze: barking was my visual of I was the elephant.
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  Suze: And I was just going to keep walking and going
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  Suze: forward and helping people and create goodness in other people's lives,
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  Suze: regardless of what all the dogs, the reporters, the articles
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  Suze: were saying about me at the time.
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  Suze: And eventually, the dogs just went away.
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  Suze: And I kept walking and here I am to this day.
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  KT: She loves that one. I like that one too. I
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  KT: think it's important. And then number four.
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  KT: And this is great also for all of you out
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  KT: there that are listening to impart this, what Suze believes
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  KT: to your kids, and, and I'll tell you why because
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  KT: I love saying it. If you think you can't, you never, ever, ever,
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  KT: ever will.
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  Suze: Yeah.
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  KT: So there you go, that's such a simple, simple thought.
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  KT: If you think you can't, you never, ever, ever, ever will.
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  Suze: I think what's important there to understand everybody that I
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  Suze: finally got in my own life is that your words.
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  Suze: Your thoughts and your actions are more powerful than you
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  Suze: have any idea, especially your words. If you say you can't.
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  Suze: And I, funny, KT that you did this, because if
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  Suze: you remember, I don't know if it was a Suze
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  Suze: School or not.
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  Suze: But I did a thing on what can't means versus
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  Suze: right and versus wrote can and I did this whole thing,
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  Suze: but this one actually is a condensed version of and
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  Suze: I'm just gonna expand on it KT because we have
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  Suze: the time to be able to do so is your
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  Suze: thoughts create your destiny.
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  Suze: And it's so important for you to really, really get that.
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  Suze: There's a saying that what you think you eventually say.
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  Suze: What you say, your words become your actions. Your actions
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  Suze: actually become your habits, KT, and your habits become your destiny.
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  Suze: So, every single thing starts with your thoughts.
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  Suze: That turn into your words, that turn into your actions. So,
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  Suze: when you say you cannot do something,
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  Suze: Then the truth of the matter is you won't be
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  Suze: able to do it, so you all have to understand
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  Suze: the power that you have within you.
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  Suze: Because your words have the power to create or the
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  Suze: power to destroy, and the choice is up to you.
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  Suze: So if you look at your life right now.
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  Suze: Look at what you have created. How did you create that?
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  Suze: Look at the things that you've done in your life again.
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  Suze: Write them down that you never ever thought you could do.
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  Suze: How did you do that? How did you get there?
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  Suze: And then look at the things that you wanted to do,
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  Suze: but you never did.
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  Suze: Why didn't you? Where did that start?
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  KT: You know what that one makes me think of just
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  KT: to diverse a little bit.
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  KT: If you think you can't, you never ever ever will.
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  KT: It reminds me of all the people years ago that said, Susie,
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  KT: I can't get out of debt, how can I do this?
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  KT: And then years later after listening to you and following simple,
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  KT: simple baby steps and instructions, we get letters of not
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  KT: only how they're out of debt but they became millionaires.
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  KT: Amazing. We're gonna have to share that one day with everyone.
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  KT: So I hope you like this, everybody, because I just
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  KT: think they're great to live by.
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  Suze: Do you care if I like doing this?
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  KT: No, you do. I know she does. These are hers.
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  KT: She lives by all of this.
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  KT: These are Suze's like 10 commandments, but they're 6.
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  Suze: I have like 50 out of them. How come you
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  Suze: didn't do them all?
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  KT: Because I just wanted six just to remember. Number five,
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  KT: there's no shame or blame big enough to keep you
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  KT: from being who you are meant to be. I love
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  KT: that one. That one's really.
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  KT: Emotional, it's personal, and it's really important that everyone understands
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  KT: there's never a shame or blame big enough to keep
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  KT: you from being who you are meant to be.
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  Suze: I love this one, KT, and the reason, everybody, I
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  Suze: love this one so much.
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  Suze: Is, listen, we all do things in our lives, every
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  Suze: single one of us, and we have to learn to
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  Suze: rise above the things that we have done that maybe
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  Suze: we have shame about or we're blaming others for or
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  Suze: whatever it may be. You can't let the things that
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  Suze: you feel bad about, you can't let the things that
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  Suze: you're angry about.
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  Suze: Keep you from being who you are meant to be.
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  Suze: You did something. You say you're sorry. Somebody did something
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  Suze: to you. OK. You have to let it go. What
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  Suze: are the three internal obstacles to wealth? Fear, shame, and anger.
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  KT: That's so true.
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  Suze: So you don't have money. You're getting deeper and deeper
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  Suze: into credit card debt, and yet you haven't told anybody
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  Suze: about it.
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  Suze: The shame of your credit card debt. Do you think
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  Suze: that should keep you from being who you are meant
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  Suze: to be?
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  Suze: Don't be ashamed of anything in your life. If you've
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  Suze: done something, tell somebody about it, which is why I
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  Suze: would say to all of you, if you have credit
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  Suze: card debt, tell everybody you know. And as soon as
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  Suze: you start telling everybody you know you have credit card debt,
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  Suze: you know what they'll say back to you? Oh, I
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  Suze: do too, right? And so it's.
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  Suze: If you've done things that you're ashamed of, if you
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  Suze: feel ashamed, if you're blaming your past, if you're blaming
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  Suze: that somebody has done something to you, you're not a
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  Suze: victim to your circumstances, you're a victor, you are a
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  Suze: creator of everything. So take that, turn it around, and
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  Suze: create the future, create the person you really want to be.
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  Suze: You can do that, but not if you dwell in
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  Suze: shame and blame and where it says, you know, that
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  Suze: there's no shame or blame big enough to keep you
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  Suze: from being who you are meant to be, so who
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  Suze: are you meant to be.
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  Suze: Another exercise for yourself. So here you can go again
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  Suze: and write down what's everything that you're ashamed of in
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  Suze: your life? What's everything that you're blaming somebody else in
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  Suze: your life for? Write down...
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  Suze: Who are you meant to be in this life?
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  KT: You're the world's personal finance expert that without a doubt.
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  Suze: There you go, right? But who am I meant to be?
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  Suze: I'm somebody who I decided a long time ago.
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  Suze: What I'm meant to be and what I'm meant to
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  Suze: do is I'm meant to meet the needs of the people, places,
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  Suze: and times around me.
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  Suze: And offer my actions to God. That is who I
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  Suze: am meant to be.
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  Suze: So that's how I feel about my life and the
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  Suze: question becomes, who are you meant to be? Write it
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  Suze: down and see what you can do. All right.
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  KT: All right, number six, this is the finale. Everyone drum roll,
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  KT: Suze da ta ta ta ta ta ta da da
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  KT: da da.
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  Suze: Are you liking this, KT? Is that what you wanted?
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  Suze: was it what you envisioned? Was this podcast what you
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  Suze: meant it to be?
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  KT: Yeah, this is what I meant it to be. OK,
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  KT: so number six, everybody, is my favorite, and it's my
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  KT: favorite because Suze, after 25 years of being with me,
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  KT: still says, KT, let's talk. And here's what she says.
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  KT: What I, you say to me all the time, and
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  KT: I'll give you a hint.
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  KT: The gatekeepers.
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  Suze: Oh, that's what you're where you're going.
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  KT: That's what I want Susie to share with you, but
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  KT: I want you to hear this in her words because
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  KT: it's what I hear and it's what I need to always.... remind myself.
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  Suze: We all do. I remind myself of it.
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  KT: This is great, everybody. Share this with everyone you know,
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  KT: especially your family.
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  Suze: May every word that you say, every thought that you think,
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  Suze: and every action that you take, KT and everybody pass
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  Suze: through the three gatekeepers, and those gatekeepers are, is it kind?
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  Suze: Is it necessary? And is it true?
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  Suze: So, you're thinking something. If it doesn't pass through those
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  Suze: three gatekeepers, just stop thinking it, change the thought. If
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  Suze: you say something,
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  Suze: Or you're about to say something before you say it
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  Suze: if you're not quite sure about it, does it pass
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  Suze: through the three gatekeepers? Is it kind? Is it necessary?
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  Suze: Is it true? And every action that you take.
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  Suze: Just think about it if you have any hesitation at all.
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  Suze: Does it pass through the three gatekeepers? Is it kind?
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  Suze: Is it necessary? Is it true?
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  Suze: And you have to be careful here because sometimes you think.
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  Suze: You want to say something it's a little bit harsh,
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  Suze: it's true, it's necessary, but you get stuck on, is
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  Suze: it kind? Is it kind to tell somebody the truth
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  Suze: about themselves or whatever that maybe they don't want to hear,
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  Suze: so you have to think about it.
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  Suze: But most of the time, when you really love somebody,
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  Suze: or whatever it is, and you wanna say something to
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  Suze: them that they might not want to hear,
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  Suze: That doesn't make it not kind.
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  Suze: It makes it that they need to hear it, but
• 21:12
  Suze: it has to pass through all three of those gatekeepers. So, again,
• 21:18
  Suze: if you're gonna do anything and it doesn't pass through
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  Suze: all three of those gatekeepers, just stop.
• 21:26
  Suze: And change it until it does just that simple KT.
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  KT: It's my favorite one. Is it kind? Is it necessary?
• 21:33
  KT: Is it true?
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  Suze: And those three gatekeepers will keep you from doing things
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  Suze: that you're ashamed that you did or regret or anything.
• 21:44
  Suze: And all of the things that we talked about really
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  Suze: relate to those gatekeepers.
• 21:51
  KT: So there you have it, everyone. I call it the
• 21:53
  KT: Six Secrets to Suze's success, but it's really credos, inspirations,
• 21:58
  KT: words that she's lived by...
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  KT: And taught and imparted not only for me but for
• 22:04
  KT: all of you listening to everyone that's read, followed, or
• 22:07
  KT: listened to her or watched her on television, but most
• 22:11
  KT: important for herself. Suze loves these and uses them in
• 22:16
  KT: her life to guide herself. She inspires herself with her
• 22:20
  KT: own inspiration.
• 22:21
  Suze: You know. And again, I'm just gonna go back to
• 22:24
  Suze: this for a second, everybody, is that.
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  Suze: You never stop learning. You never stop growing. You also
• 22:32
  Suze: never stop having doubts, believe it or not. Can I
• 22:36
  Suze: do this? Should I do this? Is this the right thing? Oh,
• 22:41
  Suze: so and so tells me, don't do this, Suze. So it's,
• 22:44
  Suze: what do I need to do versus what other people
• 22:47
  Suze: want me to do.
• 22:49
  Suze: What do I tell myself? What is it that I want?
• 22:53
  Suze: So all these things that KT just chose today to do,
• 22:58
  Suze: I kind of like that you did this, KT.
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  Suze: No matter where you are in life, on your spectrum
• 23:05
  Suze: of life, young, not so young, old, and really old,
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  Suze: these are all sayings, secrets, let them be your own
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  Suze: little inner secret.
• 23:18
  Suze: That helps you be who you really want to be
• 23:22
  Suze: and who you are meant to be. So, Miss Travis,
• 23:26
  Suze: since this was your podcast today, you take us out.
• 23:30
  KT: There's only 3 things we want you to remember, everybody,
• 23:34
  KT: and that is people first, then money, then things.