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CLASSIC: Idiomatic for the People II, Part II · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Fellow ridiculous historians. We're back with another classic episode. This
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  Speaker 1: is a follow up to our legendary Idiomatic for the
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  Speaker 1: People Too Part one. This is Idiomatic for the People
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  Speaker 1: to Part two, which we thought was just an amazing
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  Speaker 1: inside joke we did and it was.
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  Speaker 2: We stand by it.
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  Speaker 3: If anyone's not familiar with the incredible Athens, Georgia based
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  Speaker 3: you know Indie well, they became huge mega rock stars,
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  Speaker 3: but they originally were kind of like heroes of the
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  Speaker 3: early indie rock kind of scene. Rim Automatic for the
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  Speaker 3: People is the name of one of their biggest albums
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  Speaker 3: and is named after a really amazing soul food restaurant
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  Speaker 3: in Athens, Georgia called Weaver Dies and their slogan was
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  Speaker 3: whatever it means, Automatic for the People. Sadly that spot
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  Speaker 3: recently closed and as long as I've been going to
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  Speaker 3: Athens and even living there, I'd never been until very
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  Speaker 3: recently and then they closed and it was awesome have
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  Speaker 3: squash casserole delicious And speaking of awesome, we have a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fun with this one, Max, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was a little bit before.
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  Speaker 1: Your time maybe, so we had talked previously when we
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  Speaker 1: aired part two. Part one still hilarious. We had talked
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  Speaker 1: about re resurrecting this series with more idioms and things
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  Speaker 1: for the etymology nerds. Max, would you be on board
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  Speaker 1: to hop on mic with us for a gritty reboot?
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  Speaker 1: You know I would all right good, because it'd be
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  Speaker 1: awkward if you said no. Anyway, let's roll the tape.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio, and we've returned
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  Speaker 1: in an earlier episode we launched our continuing exploration into idioms.
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  Speaker 1: This is the next episode of Idiomatic for the people.
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  Speaker 2: Come on knock Idiomatic for you something something bad people
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  Speaker 2: and phrases and we got to work shop that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: No, Ben.
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  Speaker 2: You pointed out though, that the Three's company theme kind
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  Speaker 2: of dirty, clearly.
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  Speaker 1: Not as innocent as the melody would imply. And this
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  Speaker 1: is something that we we should look back into because
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  Speaker 1: I know that you and I and our super producer
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  Speaker 1: Casey Pegram had a fantastic time tripping the light of
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  Speaker 1: music history in our Louis Louis episode, So maybe we
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  Speaker 1: can look at theme songs one day.
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  Speaker 2: Are you trying to make trip the Light happen? Ben?
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  Speaker 1: No, But I was thinking about making cast the pod fantastic.
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  Speaker 5: That could be a whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: We hear voices. Hear these voices. Man, We've got voices,
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  Speaker 3: that's right. Are not just the ones in our heads?
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  Speaker 1: No, no, it's not just you and Casey myself. Today
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  Speaker 1: we are rejoined by our good friends Ruin Newby and
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  Speaker 1: Frank mulheran. Hey, mahallo, guys, thanks thanks for is that
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  Speaker 1: a well hello or a mahallow?
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  Speaker 5: Both?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: With that multifunctional so we are. We're really glad that
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  Speaker 1: you guys didn't didn't give up the ghost. It's another
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  Speaker 1: idiom didn't give up the ghost at intermission and came
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  Speaker 1: and came back. So thanks so much for giving us
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  Speaker 1: a second date. We've established the rules videomatic for the
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  Speaker 1: people already. I almost tapped out myself, Ben. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you've been You've had a long day, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a long journey.
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  Speaker 3: I was telling the superducer Casey Pregram, that I did
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  Speaker 3: get good sleep last night. I went to bed like
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  Speaker 3: a good boy around nine. We'll go bet four thirty.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not about the lack of sleep, but just
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  Speaker 3: about the length of the day. We are up at
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  Speaker 3: four it feels like an eternity, but I'm kind of
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  Speaker 3: liking this.
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  Speaker 2: Punchy vibe that I'm riding now. I'm hoping that it'll
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  Speaker 2: lend itself to some fun idiomatic dissection.
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  Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent agreed with you, and I've
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  Speaker 1: just been struck by inspiration. Noel, will you be the
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  Speaker 1: first brave soul to explore an idiom with us today?
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  Speaker 3: I would love to ben jamn. My idiom is the
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  Speaker 3: name of a spice girl? Can you guess which one
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  Speaker 3: it is?
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  Speaker 1: Is it scary?
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  Speaker 5: The story?
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  Speaker 2: The story is a little bit scary. It does involve
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  Speaker 2: some sport, some potential sports, some sports individual sporty individuals.
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  Speaker 1: It's a baby.
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  Speaker 2: What are the other ones? There's baby baby? There may
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  Speaker 2: be some babies in the story.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, there's baby spice. Gingerne Ginger spice.
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  Speaker 5: Was she ginger spice?
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  Speaker 4: Or she was?
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  Speaker 2: Wasn't she?
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  Speaker 1: There was ginger spices?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: Ginger is a spice? I think? Is what you mean?
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  Speaker 2: Ginger is a spice multiple levels.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the story of the spice girl in question, or
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  Speaker 3: at least her namesake, does involve some spices potentially, Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Aha. It involves a journey to India to the land
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  Speaker 2: of exotic spices, right, like turmeric, like you know, peppercorns, peppercorns,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, that's right. But it's not just any journey,
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  Speaker 2: my friend. It is the journey of the wealthy via
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  Speaker 2: steam ship.
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  Speaker 3: You see, in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century,
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  Speaker 3: it was the thing to do for the well to do,
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  Speaker 3: the wealthy, the upper crust of England to go to
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  Speaker 3: India for what they call in England holiday, which means
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  Speaker 3: vacation h or. It's also a fabulous Madonna song.
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  Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be funny?
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  Speaker 1: She was.
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  Speaker 3: There's a Go Go song called vacation and then there's
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  Speaker 3: a Madonna song called holiday, and they're both. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Madonna's talk about holiday is about taking a holiday, if
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  Speaker 3: we took a holiday, just sometime to celebrate.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think she's more talking about like a Christmas
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  Speaker 2: type experience. Sure, she's talking about celebrating.
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  Speaker 6: Well, as long as you wake me up before you go.
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  Speaker 2: Go, oh, you know, I will ruin you.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I will listen, hear listen here my friends.
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  Speaker 3: So they have to take this journey on steamship. And
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  Speaker 3: here's the thing. In those days, it was not a
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  Speaker 3: good look for the wealthy to have a tan because
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  Speaker 3: the tan was not what it is today. Or people
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  Speaker 3: you know, get literally spray painted on their bodies so
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  Speaker 3: they look they have that like glow. No, that was
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  Speaker 3: the look that was reserved for like a field hand,
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  Speaker 3: that was considered like we would call like a redneck
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  Speaker 3: or something like that, someone that was like the lowest
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  Speaker 3: of the low. And these these wealthy types wanted to
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  Speaker 3: maintain their ghostly complexion. So here's the thing, the story
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  Speaker 3: of the word posh.
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  Speaker 2: That is my work. It was a long preamble to
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  Speaker 2: get there. I know. But Ben, you know I love
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  Speaker 2: a good acronym.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: You know you know this about me, Frank, you know
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  Speaker 3: this about me. I'm always talking about acronyms. I won't
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  Speaker 3: shut up. I'm like acronym, acronym, acronym. Yet I can't
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  Speaker 3: seem to think of.
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  Speaker 2: Radar race car.
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  Speaker 5: That's it's a palindrome, not an acronym.
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  Speaker 1: I just want to chime in here. One of my
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  Speaker 1: favorite palindromes doctor awkward, really wow beautiful.
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  Speaker 6: Also one of my favorite Spider Man villains. No wait, ac,
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  Speaker 6: I know my favorite is a lonely tail and all wow,
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  Speaker 6: that's a good one. Yeah, but palindromes may be something
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  Speaker 6: for a different tale, right, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, the word palindrome is itself a palindrome. I'm pretty
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  Speaker 2: sure other language that's fair.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll tell you the story of the word posh
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  Speaker 3: is really fascinating because there is a popularly circulated, let's
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  Speaker 3: call it, I don't know, a rumored origin of this
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  Speaker 3: word that these mucky muck English types that were going
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  Speaker 3: on their holiday to India thea steamship required a very
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  Speaker 3: particular type of seat so they would not get that tan.
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  Speaker 3: So they wanted to sit in the part of the
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  Speaker 3: ship that would shield them from the afternoon sun, which
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  Speaker 3: is the hottest of the hot during the day when
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  Speaker 3: you're out on the open sea, which would, according to
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  Speaker 3: this version of events, be the right or the starboard side.
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  Speaker 3: And then when you came back, they wanted it to
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  Speaker 3: be on the left or the port side. So therein
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  Speaker 3: you have the acronym psh port side out starboard home,
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  Speaker 3: meaning the voyage there you'd sit on the port side.
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  Speaker 3: On the voyage back, you'd sit on the starboard side.
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  Speaker 3: And supposedly, according to this tale, these tickets would be
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  Speaker 3: stamped with posh and it got so popular that people
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  Speaker 3: just started asking for the posh ticket.
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  Speaker 2: We want the posh ticket. Turns out this is garbage.
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  Speaker 3: This story is not true at all, and there's great
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  Speaker 3: reason there's it's so garbage and so questionable that Snopes
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  Speaker 3: has a fantastic article dissecting all of these these various
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  Speaker 3: versions of the story. And they have a couple of
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  Speaker 3: reasons that does not make sense. First of all, the
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  Speaker 3: way the sun would move in a journey like this
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  Speaker 3: would be different depending on the day. Right, This is
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  Speaker 3: a very long and arduous journey. And they you know,
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  Speaker 3: you couldn't really bank on where the sun would be exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It does make its own rules. And that's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: The winds.
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  Speaker 3: There were monsoon winds that would be in play, and
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  Speaker 3: they would change from season to season, so it would
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  Speaker 3: change seasonally, you know, like maybe not day to day,
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  Speaker 3: but certainly seasonally. And there's here's the other part. Here's
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  Speaker 3: the other rub as they say, which is another idiom
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  Speaker 3: we should explore.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is right there. They these trips were
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  Speaker 2: so long and difficult that they wouldn't book a round trip.
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  Speaker 2: They would be staying in India for a long time
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  Speaker 2: to make it worth their while they might stay months,
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  Speaker 2: some might even stay over like a year or so,
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  Speaker 2: they would not book that return trip until they knew,
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  Speaker 2: damn well they were ready to come home. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: so posh.
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  Speaker 3: And so the real origin of the word posh came
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  Speaker 3: around in eighteen thirty. And the thing about posh too
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  Speaker 3: is the reason stories like this can take hold is
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  Speaker 3: because it's its origins are a little bit murky. But
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  Speaker 3: there are some origins in the Romani language of the
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  Speaker 3: early seventeenth century, where it was a term that meant money.
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  Speaker 3: The term was posh huri, which was their version of
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  Speaker 3: a halfpence. So then the word posh kind of stuck
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  Speaker 3: around and started.
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  Speaker 2: To mean money. Money equals you are so money, you
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  Speaker 2: are so well to do, you are so posh. That
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  Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me. And now we
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  Speaker 2: use that term to mean anyone that is moneyed or
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  Speaker 2: looking fancy or looking like whatever their get up is
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  Speaker 2: is would have cost a good bit. You know.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I have to admit I'm a little It
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit of an emotional roller coaster for me, Noel,
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  Speaker 1: because I got quite into the idea of posh. Spice's
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  Speaker 1: full name being port side out, starboard home spice.
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  Speaker 2: That would be good. That would be good.
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  Speaker 3: And a point that I love the Snop's article makes
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  Speaker 3: is that the Brits of this period, and honestly humans
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  Speaker 3: in general, big fans of scrap booking.
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  Speaker 2: Scrap booking is it was a super fashionable thing to
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  Speaker 2: do and not a single one of these posh stamped
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  Speaker 2: tickets exists in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Debunked.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, totally debunked.
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  Speaker 6: But the Brits love to say posh. That's probably where
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  Speaker 6: I know the term from.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, you're a posh dandy, you know, like a
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  Speaker 3: posh dandy trip and the light fantastic there.
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  Speaker 4: We like that line from peep Showers, like he calls
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  Speaker 4: them a posh spaz. You probably iron your socks, yes, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Also also I propose that we take it upon ourselves
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  Speaker 1: to bring back posh as a slang term for money.
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  Speaker 1: There's always there's so many I think you can. I
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  Speaker 1: think you can pull it off and no one will
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  Speaker 1: bust you, you know what I mean. Like if you
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  Speaker 1: say how much Pasha is that, they'll just say it's
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  Speaker 1: four thirty five.
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  Speaker 3: I think that works totally. There's some like you ever
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  Speaker 3: heard of like scratch. You heard someone calling money scratch?
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  Speaker 1: Sure cheddar Posh.
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  Speaker 2: Is way cooler? Yeah, posh is way cool.
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  Speaker 5: You got the pasha more fashionable?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds like something Ali g would say that.
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  Speaker 1: You would say, yaksha exactly pasha. Oh boy?
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  Speaker 5: All right, well.
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  Speaker 1: Uh now we now we turn to let's see what
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  Speaker 1: what you got something? Frank, you got one for us?
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  Speaker 4: Sure? I was looking at, uh, what's cracking in? What's
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  Speaker 4: cracking in on tonight? Do y'all have what's cracking? Do
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  Speaker 4: y'all have any idea of what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Like some some what's the HAPs?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, what's the HAPs what's the buzz, what's the you know,
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  Speaker 4: what's the new gossip? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. And so I
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  Speaker 4: was looking into this and you know, it's not something
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  Speaker 4: that's native to America. It's but it's been around in
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  Speaker 4: England for a while and specifically it comes from the
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  Speaker 4: Ulster area and the Scots Irish area of the British Isles.
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  Speaker 4: And originally it was spelled you know like the way
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  Speaker 4: we spell it now, like c R A c K.
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  Speaker 2: That was American. Then it was an americanized version or no.
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  Speaker 4: Well no, no, no, it was originally started out in
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  Speaker 4: as Middle English, and it was just like it, you know,
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  Speaker 4: it was related to the sound but it but in
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  Speaker 4: this particular usage of it, it pertained to like a
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  Speaker 4: lot of chatter basically like people, you know, you go
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  Speaker 4: into a loud bar restaurant, you hear just you know.
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  Speaker 5: White noise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I believe they call them pubs over there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so yes, exactly exactly. And so what I
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  Speaker 4: found really interesting about this was that it's an example
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  Speaker 4: of a reborrowing. So it was primarily used in you know, Scotland,
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  Speaker 4: Northern England and in Northern Ireland. It really wasn't used
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  Speaker 4: in Ireland, even though we associate you know, when people
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  Speaker 4: say where's the crack or what's the crack and not
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  Speaker 4: what I.
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  Speaker 3: Think of when people say where's the crack, I'm thinking
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  Speaker 3: of something completely different.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah totally. But yeah, but say if you
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  Speaker 4: were in Ireland and somebody asked you that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: they would just take you to a cool bar, you know,
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  Speaker 4: a restaurant or whatever, then sell you some crack, sell
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  Speaker 4: you some crack and then you'd continue about your night.
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  Speaker 4: So cracks use in mainland Ireland or the non northern
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  Speaker 4: Ireland part really is more of a recent thing and
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  Speaker 4: kind of started in the late sixties. And what happened
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  Speaker 4: was they took crack and Gala sized it and started
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  Speaker 4: to spell it c r a Ic, you know, so
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  Speaker 4: they don't have a k in Gaelic, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why they chose to put an eye in front
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  Speaker 4: of them.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: It looks like a more Middle English version, like I
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  Speaker 3: would think of it, like, you know, the craik was
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  Speaker 3: the whisky and then he deeves and all that kind of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's got a jabberwocky vibe to it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Really in the Sleepy Tutes.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the guy ron gimbal So I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: it's related to Archaic in any way just because of
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  Speaker 1: that Ai.
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  Speaker 4: It's just an example of the Irish taking this word
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  Speaker 4: and giving it a more Gaelic sort of rebranding. And
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  Speaker 4: that's really kind of like what it turns into, because
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  Speaker 4: it turns into this Gaelic spelling of it, and it
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  Speaker 4: becomes associated with Irish nightlife culture and just going out
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  Speaker 4: and having fun and raising hell and all that kind
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  Speaker 4: of stuff, and then it ends up coming back into English.
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  Speaker 4: By way of Ireland, and it kind of now means
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  Speaker 4: like fun, nightlife, gossip and all this kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 4: but with the kind of Irish flavor to it.
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  Speaker 1: So are we are we having cracked? Now? Is this?
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  Speaker 1: Is this what we're doing?
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to hope. So okay, all right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Is that how you would say it too? We're having crack?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're having a crack.
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  Speaker 5: And I feel very strange, very.
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  Speaker 1: Fake, say like because I went to a good crack. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I went to Dublin last year. And what surprised me
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  Speaker 1: is I had heard people use this phrase, but I
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  Speaker 1: had no idea what it meant. And it was never
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  Speaker 1: in a situation where I wanted to stop someone and
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  Speaker 1: be like part of me, fellow Irish person, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? What?
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  Speaker 2: What?
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  Speaker 1: What is this crack of what you speak?
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  Speaker 5: Take a crack?
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  Speaker 2: And where can I get some? Sorry?
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  Speaker 3: I keep leaning on that, but it's I can't, I
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  Speaker 3: can't hear that. So to me, what what what comes
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  Speaker 3: to mind is what's cracking?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: And I also another popular British expression is a cracking
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  Speaker 3: good time exactly, So you're saying that's cracking good you know?
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  Speaker 5: That is?
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  Speaker 2: I think it just means that it's super exciting and
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  Speaker 2: fun and upbeat, high energy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. And one interesting thing I came across with
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  Speaker 4: this is that it's kind of now that it's become
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  Speaker 4: readopted by English speakers, it's now kind of like seen
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  Speaker 4: as kind of like emblematic of the disney Ification of
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  Speaker 4: Irish culture. You saw like the proliferation of like Irish
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  Speaker 4: pubs in the nineties, you know. And that gipsy mcs
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  Speaker 4: stumbles exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't make that up.
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  Speaker 3: And Frank and I's hometown of a US to Georgia,
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  Speaker 3: which she mentioned last episode, there is an Irish bar
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that's sort of like an Irish bar Hooters called Tipsy
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: mc stumbles.
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: If that's not the most offensive cultural appropriation that I
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: can think off the top of my head, I don't
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: know what it is.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: You know, there are a lot of really cool examples
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: of reborrowing that I thought were really interesting, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: like the you know how like animation in English and
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: then jap in Japan there's anime and then now in
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: English animation that has this from.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Japan or japanimation.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Nobody says.
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: Nobody says, I'm not supposed to.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Say that that will get you punched by fans of
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: the medium.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's come full circle back to animes.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: So I have a question, can we as Americans use
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: this phrase or we being jerks?
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: I would if I was going over there, I would
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: be like, listen, I don't want I don't want. I
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: don't want this, Mickey Mickey Mouse, Donald duck crack. You know,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: I'm looking for the real thing, saying, you know, don't
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: send me to where the tourists are.
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: See, okay, I feel like I'm not into Donald duck
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: crack either person of all.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, last thing, real quick. I keep seeing
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: this on the internet when I'm looking at this. The
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: crack was ninety. Why isn't it hundred?
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: That is the highest gradation of crack.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: Breaking bad crack.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: If you go past crack ninety, then you've entered into
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: minus crack, where you've had too good of a time
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: and you know, you said some terrible things and gotten
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: into a fight, and you know, the minus crack.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: I'll cancel you. You're canceled this season, right, you were
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: so minus crack. That was fantastic.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: First of all, when you texted the group saying that
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I thought you were misspelling a word, and I was like,
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I do what this is?
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: But I am. I am delighted this. I literally learned
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: something new.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't want to mention
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: it in our off air talk because I thought you
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: would like have more fun.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: You knew what it was?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because you Yeah. I actually when we were there,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we ended up entirely through accidents, staying next to the
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: most notorious club in Dublin, which is a place called
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Copper Faced Jacks. I don't want to go too far
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: into detail on it, but if you are by a
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: computer that is not associated with your work, feel free
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to google it and check out what happens at Copper
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Face Jacks. I hear it's rage and crack. It's at ninety.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Am I doing that right?
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Oh crack ninety crack ninety. We should do, we should do.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: There's some T shirt ideas here, guys.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: These are T shirt I do right and let us know. Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I'll wear any shirt with crack on it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: That's what people say about you. I have one you, guys.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: It might it might surprise you. Have you ever felt
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: that you were doing something or involved in some kind
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: of project that felt too improvised, somewhat.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Haphazard, like this podcast.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: No, we had a hey, we had a plan, we
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: had a text, we had a text, a text threat.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: So more Lucy Goosey than this is what you're saying,
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: and not lucy.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But but that's a great one too, that's true. The
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: phrase willy nilly, which is for older generations.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, just willy nilly, Lucy goosey, the similar sing song.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah they've got some whimsy to them, right, they're a
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: bit of June. But willy nilly, Now, it's something that
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: you would associate with, let's be honest, maybe a child,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a teacher, or an older person say in a way
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like if you've ever seen a very wholesome person get angry,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: they would use a phrase like willy nilly, you cannot
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: be out all hours of the night driving willy nilly,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: hither and.
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: Yon hither and thither.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, pal mel So. Nowadays, in twenty nineteen, we
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: associate this with the definition that I think we all
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: recognized instantly doing something without a good set of directions,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: lackluster planning, somewhat haphazardly, which reminds us I feel terrible,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: super producer Casey Pegro. We went willy Nilly into the
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: beginning of this podcast.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: We ran rough shot over our normal top of the show,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: shout out to.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Casey, Yes, please do Yes, we are penitent. I blame you, Ron,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: what come on, we blame Rowin.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: Oh look, I'm sorry, Casey. Do you forgive me?
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I forgive you.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Oh I'll listen to that. Huh Casey on the case.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and it sounded very sincere. So you guys need
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: to take a deep breath.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: Right, We're good.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So willy nilly is much older than might originally suspect
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: the phrase that survives now w I l l y
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: dash n I l l y is the winner of
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a long battle between various different spellings, and it's even
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: become a great fake name if you guys are into
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: those William nillium. Who's who's going to use that at
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the airport next every hotel? Every hotel. So the early
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: meaning of the word nil is key to the understanding
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: it used to. It used to mean originally with or
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: against your will. So come hell or high water is
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: closer to the original version of willy nilly Because the
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: early meaning of the word nil it was the opposite
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of will, a contraction of nay will so ash so
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: so I nil do that, I will not do that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Websters defines it as whether you like it or not. Yep,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: and so I've always wanted to say. Webster's defines it
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: as sorry.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Perfect.
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: Shout out to Websters.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So will I nil I can be expanded into b
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I willing b I unwilling, combining the two sentiments with
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the implication that it doesn't matter how you feel about it,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: you are stuck doing this thing. I got a lot
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: of this information from one of my favorite word websites,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: which is Worldwide Words. It is a treasure trove, the cavalcade,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a very very strange phrases.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: And an interesting backstory. The guy that that maintained it right.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is no longer actively updating the site,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: But Michael Quinnion has spent his entire life studying this.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: He's a one man army and it's it's fascinating, just
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the sheer bulk of stuff he described. So shout out
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to you, Mike, and thanks for putting this together. So
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the phrase it still dates back at least a thousand years.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: The earliest known version was in an old English text
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: called Lives of Saints. The line is saying satan food
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: and skilled and bone mode, will we nil? I don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: know what he's talking about, but he got there.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: And something about skating and bone was it? Skanks and bones?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Sin sinbul and stolen bone mode? Ed mode mood.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I'm in ed mode, bro, You're so ed mode right now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: That's like when you like actively are sort of like
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a d weeb, like I'm in full ed mode. And
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: then it this is great, Great, he's gonna be t shirts.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And then it occurs in the Tami in the Shrew
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: in fifteen ninety six, with its original meaning. Petruccio, speaking
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: to Catherina, says, thus, in plain terms, your father hath
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: consented that you shall be my wife. Your dowry greed
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: on and will you nill you? I will marry you?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Super creepy dude.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, that's that's not a good look for Patriuccio.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: What's his name?
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: That's right?
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, I got it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: He nailed it, man. And this is just a I
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: think a great example of how previously maybe not sinister,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: but previously more combative or less innocuous terms become these
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: fun things that we throw around now, you know what
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, You're not You're like the odds of you
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: being in an altercation and someone saying will you or
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: nil you in a threatening manner that's just safely not
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: gonna happen.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I totally agree. I do have to say, Ben,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I use this one quite a lot.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Ah yeah, U.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I use it Willy Nilly just every which way. Yeah,
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I really do. I really really like Willy Nilly.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: Oh come on, I keep thinking of what's that song
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: wily Bully? Will? I keep thinking of this song Willy Bully,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: but just with the lyrics replaced Willy Nilly.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I like it, which actually works.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: I do, But honestly that when I use it, though,
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I use it in kind of a Larry David kind
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: of like grumpy old man way, where.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't just go doing this stuff Willy Nilly,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, like you know, it's this idea of, uh,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: there's gotta be a little order involved. You can't just.
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: Go you can't just be going out, you know, doing
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: whatever it is you're doing, whatever the case might be, whose.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Can be haphazard or pill mel pell mell.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Which is so funny because there's cigarettes I was about
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: to say our grandpa cigarettes. I would also say willy
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: nilly probably, but Grandpa's pronounced pall Mel and if you
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: look at the pack, it's clearly Paul Mal and they're
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: still around, but apparently they're like that. That's one of
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: these examples of willful disagreement of an obvious pronunciation.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, I love that.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe we're just like I'm gonna smoke this as fast
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: as toss the ball and.
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: Time to the box.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: A person with things to do. So that's that's the story.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: So we have posh, we have crack. We took a
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: crack at crack, yeah, and then we have willy Nilly.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But we weren't quite willing n only with this episode
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: because we did have a plan. We did promise everyone
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: in the beginning that we would we would each present
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: an idiom and Rowans since you are an alumni of
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: the show, now alumnus.
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: Alumna, alumn aluminium, since you are in fact built largely
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: from aluminium, No, we would like to give the honor
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: to you.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: You have the last idiom. Now this means that if
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the three of us have really dropped the ball here
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: and don't know where that one comes from. Then it's
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: no pressure on you to save the show.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. I don't feel pressure by that statement
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: at all.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Good because Nolan Frank gave you some serious nods and
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: once you know that we're not joking.
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Okay, they all just crack their knuckles and they're looking
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: at me very sternly.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: I want to know, can you hear those knuckles?
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: That is not fully that is that is in the room?
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: Okay, Well, I'm triggered by the wedding bullets right now.
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: Put that on your list, by the way there, because
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: I'm tripping balls.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: Tripping the balls. Fantastic? Got it?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, there's actually a dry race board behind Ben
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: or he puts a tally of every accidental idiom we utter.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Ben literally keeps score in all things, in all things
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: podcast related.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I'm super petty, get it?
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: But sure, Yeah, here we go, let's jump in. Uh.
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: This is a lesser known idiom for the people out there.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: Hard boxing the runway.
• 29:51
  Speaker 6: If you're not familiar with this, it refers to someone
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: who's maybe showboating or peacocking a bit, you know, maybe
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: accidentally alienating a crowd as opposed to enlightening with their
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: flair and mild superiority, but like big personality.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I've heard this, but I have no idea where it
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: comes from. Is it like a is like a European
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: thing or is it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: You know, I think it's origins or English? But uh
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: but I think English, So yeah, European?
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: Okay, English? Did you do the home?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Come on, we're really picking well it is one of.
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: Those expressions that feels fake, but I promise it's.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Not so okay, so so lay it honest man. What's
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: what's the etymology? Is there a story behind this?
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Well, there's a man by the name of Alexander Benson okay,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: who was the great grandfather somebody who I know, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Admiral Nicholas van Benson who has shared this wisdom with me.
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: Evently stems from old bricotine ships, and there was something
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: called a like you know with at the front of
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: the ship is the bow, in the back is the
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: is the port? Correct start, thank you? And so in
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: the back of the ships where you steer the ship.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: And if somebody was steering the ship, they they would
• 31:13
  Speaker 6: have this semblance of you know, kind of arrogance. They'd
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: be taking up a lot of you know, they oh,
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: I'm in control of this ship. So they were often
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: known as the Harbucks. They were Harbucks sing the runway,
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: being like there the passageway from the port or the starboard.
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, all right, the stern is in the backup
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: saying but when you look forward, ah, yes, because they
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: get this whole like vista of the entire ship and
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: the sea because they're steering the ship.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: So they're sort of like hogging the spotlight.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: Exactly, and they can be a little braggadocious, but they're
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: doing the job. You know. I think it's kind of
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: an unintentional.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: Type of har like flexing on the gram or something.
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: Sure, yeah, more archaic version. Yeah this, why not very
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: because I haven't.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, like, I haven't. I'm familiar with it.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of us listening you are, but
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard it in the modern day, you know
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: what I mean?
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, you know, much like willy nilly, people aren't
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: or will to the nil or whatever it was, Folks
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: aren't using this as as often as they should.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: You.
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: Frankly, I'm a little upset that people are often try
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: to call me on this, but it is real, as
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: the table we're in front of.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Right, we are not sitting down, We're standing.
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: Real as the table in front of us. So you
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: can put that on the tally board. All right, So
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: do you think people should bring this back? I strongly
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: suggest it would be for the benefit of all if
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: we because because you got to call people on their
• 32:48
  Speaker 6: on their bs often.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, okay, so I'm in it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right, what I don't know, man.
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: I wrote a bunch of other fake things. Do you
• 33:00
  Speaker 5: want me to read?
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: Yes, I mean real things.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah.
• 33:06
  Speaker 6: Because I did actually google the word harbuck, because you
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: know that's what the internet's for, right, sure, okay. Harbuck
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: could have ties to a Gaelic expression Harbuck, which was
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: a surname or habitational name taken from our Buckle, a
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: parish of air Dry, Lancashire. I think I'm pronouncing I
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: think correctly.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: But it's late Galic.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Yes, fine, well really so Gelic.
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: It's as Gaelic.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: So we we've got crack and we came back around exactly.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: We're back And he was talking about ships at the
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: beginning of the show. Wow, yeah, think about that.
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: It's almost as though.
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: I'm definitely usual suspects, Almost.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: As though you invented or I'm sorry, discovered the perfect
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: crystallization of everything that we did in this episode, summed
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: up in a completely believable and meticulously researched idiom.
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: I you know, I couldn't have said a better myself
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: by I'm patting myself on the back. However, Nicholas von Benson, Admiral,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: deserves a large amount of the credit as well.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I must say, was he the hard Was he the
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: original Harbucks?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Here?
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: Was the original person to Hardbucks the runway?
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I actually say this wouldn't an admiral. He would just
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: be commanding. He wouldn't be steering.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: He was kind of a dick about it.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, some people are really hands on, you know people, Yeah, exactly.
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: Because you know it's you know, there are shifts. It's
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: also a power move, exactly.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Like you would admirally want people to know you still
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: got it.
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: He would often just like shout hey, guys, look at me, Hey,
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: check out the the steering on this guy.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: Huh handling?
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And then people would be swabbing the poop deck
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: like that's nice, sir, that's great.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I say, we take this to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: our favorite court because if anyone can get to the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: bottom of the veracity of this figure speech, it will
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: be our super producer, Casey Pegram Casey, question for you,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: when was the last time you heard hard boxing the runway?
• 35:10
  Speaker 8: I would estimate about an hour ago. Well, we're talking
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: about it outside before recording. This is new to you,
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: it's a new one to me. But you know, it
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: feels like it should be real, So it has that
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: going for it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Should be real.
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: Casey, I thought we were.
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: I mean, you know, all languages constructed, so I mean, really,
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: what is real? Yeah versus fake?
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 6: And that's actually something I texted nol Earler.
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  Speaker 2: That's very true. You did, so be it true? Will he?
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  Speaker 2: Nill he? You know, I think it demonstrates the malleability
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  Speaker 2: of language and the power of belief, because what we're
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  Speaker 2: all about here on.
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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous system and it's like our main thing.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's one.
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  Speaker 1: Of our main things. So guys, again, thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for dropping by and helping ship some light on
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  Speaker 1: the mysteries of etymology for those of us listening, And
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  Speaker 1: we want to thank you for all the responses we
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  Speaker 1: receive to our previous idiomatic for the people. Right in,
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  Speaker 1: let us know some of your favorite figures of speech,
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  Speaker 1: terms of phrase, idioms. Also, if you speak languages other
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  Speaker 1: than English, what's something that you think sounds really strange
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  Speaker 1: in English but is very common in some other language.
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  Speaker 1: That's an episode. All it's over.
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  Speaker 4: There are some great Lindas.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to you, my dear friend, my dear old friend,
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  Speaker 3: Frank Malhair and coiner of the idiomatic for the people,
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  Speaker 3: ephemeral friend of the show, and now what's the what's
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  Speaker 3: the opposite of ephemeral?
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  Speaker 2: Concrete, flat lasting, corporeal friend of the show, part of
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  Speaker 2: the show. It's been a long time comment.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for being here, man, thanks for having I know
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  Speaker 3: you had to rush over here from work and it
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  Speaker 3: means the world.
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  Speaker 2: Rowan Nuby, Yeah, thanks so much.
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  Speaker 1: Rowan. You can find you can find mister Nuby on
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  Speaker 1: his own show Pitches, which is a comedy podcast about
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  Speaker 1: the evaluation of ideas. Correct a monopoly of ideas, right,
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  Speaker 1: that is correct?
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  Speaker 6: Very good word. Yeah, you know it's like Shark Tank
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  Speaker 6: mindus all the stress and money and plus all the
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  Speaker 6: chatter and fun and irreverence and.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, it's pretty off the cuff.
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  Speaker 6: I got Ben Bowlin here actually coming up on an episode,
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  Speaker 6: and I got Noel Brown here on one that's airing today.
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  Speaker 2: How do you like them?
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  Speaker 5: Apples?
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  Speaker 1: So you can check it out now wherever you find
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  Speaker 1: your favorite podcast.
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  Speaker 6: That's correct, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, all the things to get
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  Speaker 6: on their baby at Pitches Podcasts Get it.
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  Speaker 1: You can also find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: Big thanks to super producer Casey Pegram, Big thanks to
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  Speaker 3: our research associate Gabe luz Here, and thanks to Alex Williams.
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  Speaker 2: Who composed are ever so earwormy theme.
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  Speaker 1: And as you said in previous pisode, write it and
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  Speaker 1: let us know if there were any figures of speech
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  Speaker 1: or terms of phrase that we used unconsciously. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: they were in there. You can find my personal Instagram
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  Speaker 1: at ben Bolin and hey, Nola, you're on the internet too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on the insternet at Embryonic Insider double ats.
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  Speaker 2: That's the only way you can find it. I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 2: Just a single app.
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  Speaker 1: Willy nilly, great crack, folks, stay tuned for our next
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  Speaker 1: episode when we do something that we guarantee will be ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the least we can guarantee. We'll see you
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  Speaker 2: next time.
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