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- justice for: Hello and welcome back to the fourth and final episode of all of our case updates. Yay! Yay! We know you're upset to not hear this anymore and get back to deep dives, but we have a couple more. Some ones that are pretty big that you are gonna be happy you're Welcome back to Justice 4. We are your hosts. I'm Jackie. And I'm Sam. Ooh, just a little reminder real quick before we get into this, our live show at Voodoo is in a couple days. It's literally in two days. It's in two days. It's literally in two days. so if you haven't if you need a reserve seat, we might have some left. go ahead and message us. We could also make one. You can sit right here on this knee right here. Sam's got a leg for you as well. It might be a little loud, but we got a knee for ya. please come out and join us. we're so excited to see y'all. We have a great episode. We have a great time at Voodoo. Their food is amazing, the staff is amazing, and we are so excited to see you. If you can't make this one, we do have a painting with a twist live on October 30th for candle making. There's gonna be costumes, it's gonna be fun. but I just wanted to get all that out to you guys before we jump into this. Yes. And please, because I have forgotten to mention this, go follow our friends, Shadow Cards in the UK. If you like trading like game trading cards. Go follow them they're super. They have lives. They love us over there. They like Pokemon. What can be wrong? And Disney. And Disney. They have Disney ones. They love it. They're pretty cool looking too. Also they're just good people. Yeah. So let's dive in, you guys. Do you remember the heartbreaking case out of Humboldt, Tennessee from July of twenty twenty four? No. It's the case where a twelve year old girl was charged with the murder of her eight year old cousin, Demaria Hollingsworth. Yes I do. Well Demarieta was visiting her grandmother's home about 90 miles northwest of Memphis when the tragedy occurred. She was spending the night with her ther I'm sorry, twelve year old cousin, Laqu this her name is so difficult. I'm so sorry. La Quivana Lo La Quinvana Parson. Okay, is her name. I'm so sorry. According to the investigators, the two girls had argued earlier that day over an iPhone. While the exact details of the disagreement have never been made public, prosecutors allege that after everyone had gone to bed, Demeria was sleeping on the top bunk when her cousin smothered her with a blanket. In all fairness, her name wasn't actually like The one cousin's name wasn't actually released when we first did our state. It's true. And so we've never had to really pronounce her name before. And I realized that as you were saying it, because they Demaris's mom wanted her name out there. Correct. From the very beginning. She wanted everybody to know her, her whole name, and who she was. Yes. yeah, so everything has not everything, but a good amount of information has been made public. but not a lot because they are minors. There's also been a lot of discrepancy of her being twelve and being thirteen. Just a heads up. And sometimes those discrepancies happen it's like close to a birthday and Yes. So sometimes we're talking about the age they were when this happened, and then as they get older, they start reporting that age as well. So that's where discrepancy in these kids' ages are gonna come from. Yes. So after the smothering, what investigators say happened afterward is especially disturbing. So prosecutors say that Demaria lost control of her bowels. And after she had lost control of her bowels during the attack, her cousin cleaned her body, changed her clothes, and repositioned her in bed, covering her with a blanket, and then simply went to sleep as though nothing had happened. And honestly. I didn't think that I could be any more shocked in this case when you initially hear what happened until you hear about that. And it was all caught on surveillance camera, right? There was a camera in the bedroom. Authorities say these events were captured on a camera inside of the bedroom. While the footage has never been released and likely never will be due to the age of those involved, prosecutors have described it as a critical piece of evidence in the case. Demaria's family made the decision to publicly share her name because they wanted the world to remember the little girl whose life was taken. Her mother and sister continue to honor her memory and have spoken publicly about we wearing memorial pens with her photo every single day. Honestly, like that obviously 'cause I just said it, but I That is stuck with me. That is the one part of this case that has stuck with me. And that's why we scream about victims. Because I as soon as you say her name, I know exactly what you're talking about because her mama yelled so loud at us and said, look at my baby girl and remember her. And we did. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. In September of twenty twenty four, a Gibson County grand jury indicted La Covana Parson on charges of first degree murder and tampering with evidence. After a judge transferred her case from juvenile court to adult court. Yep, and it's because the video is that bad. Mm-hmm. All of it. but it's what happened afterwards is what puts it in adult court. If she would not have taken the steps afterwards, she would have been in juvenile court and we would have had a chance for I actually talked about that right now. Mm-hmm. District Attorney Frederick Aggie explained or age, I'm not sure. Let me see. A G E E. Aggie. That's what I thought. Expl he explained that the case, if the case had remained in juvenile court, she could have been released as early as age 18. Because juvenile record is about reform. Correct. Not about punishment. Correct. He said his office believed that that was not enough time to protect the community. Which is why they sought to have her prosecuted as an adult. Because she is now being tried as an adult, she faces the possibility of a life sentence. Under Tennessee law, a life sentence generally requires serving at least 51 years before becoming eligible for parole. As of now, there have been very few public developments since the indictment. Laquavana Parson remains charged with first degree murder and tampering with evidence. And there has been no announcement of a plea agreement, no reported dismissal of charges, and no public trial date. Is she being held in a juvenile detention center or and has no idea adult? I don't know. This is the part that I can't ever remember. I feel like until they're convicted as an adult, they stay in the juvenile detention center when they're this young Like Jordan Brown was held in a juvenile even though he was being charged as an adult. But like Sheila well Sheila and Rachel always charged as adults. the other one. Morgan and Anissa, they were I think they were at juvenile until they were determined to be tried as adults. Mm-hmm. I think until trial happens and if a verdict gets decided, then things will be moved. I just with her how young she is, I just I d I can't see them putting her in an adult jail while awaiting for all this. I see her being in a juvenile center, but not with everybody else. Well at this point, she's fourteen, almost maybe fifteen. Which is still too young to be placed into a jail with adults. I agree. I agree. We've seen it happen before. Yeah unfortunately. This case still appears to still be working its way through the Tennessee court system because the defendant was only twelve years old at the time of the alleged crime. Many court records and proceedings remain sealed or are not publicly available, limiting the amount of information that has been released. Demaria's family also established a GoFundMe to help pay for her headstone, which has already been done, which is really cute. Donations have slowed considerably at this point, but the fundraiser remains a reminder of the community's efforts to help her to help honor her memory after such an unimaginable loss. I understand that this is not necessarily an update, but I'm not gonna let her slide through the cracks. I mean it is kind of an update because we are proceeding. We're proceeding and we're getting further and we are determining if she's going to be charged which way and and so it's just it's very slow. they have to make sure they're very careful when we're coming out of a juvenile system into an adult court system and making sure everything is done correctly and keeping her in the right places until it's the right time. They're they're just slower moving cases. Correct. And if Jordan Brown has taught us anything, it's a good thing they're slower moving cases because they need to do it right. Correct, correct. So that is where we sit with Demaria. I apologize, I said her name wrong earlier. I added an S to it. I don't know if I was talking about her in a sense that could have been used in S, but I think I said Demarius instead of Demeria. So I do apologize earlier if I said it that way. I caught it after you said her name again. So If that's still in there. I didn't even catch that. I'm not gonna look I did. I I caught it when I went to say your name. I put an S on the end of it, so I apologize. So our next update. I personally was updating you guys last year when all of this was unfolding. But I'm gonna bring it to you again right now because I can't Bianca Ellis. yeah. A 32 year old woman from Cleveland, Ohio was arrested on June 3rd, 2024 for fatally stabbing three year old Julian Wood and wounding his mother, Marga Wood, outside of a giant eagle grocery store in North Olmstead. The attack was swift and completely unprovoked, occurring in the parking lot as the mother and child were returning to their vehicle. Investigators say Ellis stole two knives from a nearby volunteer of America's thrift store before entering the grocery store. Where surveillance video No, I will not play the surveillance video again. It gives me chills. I can't just burned into my head. Yeah. Sorry, where surveillance video captured her following Margot and Julian through the store. She She then ambushed them outside, fatally stabbing Julian while also injuring his mother as she desperately tried to protect her son. Julian later died of his injuries while Margot survived being treated for non life-threatening wounds. And I will always give hats off to the bystanders because We had men jumping in trucks and chasing her in the parking lot so that they would have her location for police. I have never been more impressed with a group of bystanders in a parking lot because every single person who was in that parking lot and saw this jumped into action. Whether it was for mom and baby or it was going after Bianca or it was staying Calling the police calling the police. Going inside, grabbing things like staying and giving their witness. statements. I mean there was people who hung out in this parking lot with police and said, Are you sure you have everything? Do I need do you need any more stations? I think there was a couple of them that was like, Did you witness it? And they were just like, No, I only saw everything after and they were like, you can go and they're like Yeah, and like they were like, No, no, no, I want to tell you where other bystanders were like, No, tell them what you saw. Yeah. So I So many so many good people in that parking lot. We I agree. And this was around the time that we had the train video where that a woman got stabbed on the train and nobody did anything. Yes. So it's just help people. Don't be shitty. Don't be a shitty person, please. At the same time though, Bianca was also walking away. She didn't run. No. She walked out of that parking lot and was later found. So the incident was widely described as a random act of violence, as she had no known connection to the victims. Surveillance footage shows her stalking the mother and son before the attack. I wouldn't even say it was stalking to a point. Like she they were leaving and she was walking the opposite way. And then it was like a split decision. It's like she locked eyes and then decided, I'm gonna go this way now. And then turned around and followed him. And I'm not not to make excuses, but you're gonna tell you're gonna tell why right now. I know you are. I am, but first I want to mention a little bit, that it sh it did shock the community and raised immediate questions about her mental state. After her arrest. I left this part out, but this is essentially what got us to really, really follow this c case in the first place, I think. The video of her in her hearing in her Mm-hmm. It that that video stands out to me a lot, but the other video that stands out to me is her with her suitcase at the police station. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. in her wheelchair. She needed. I don't know, that's weird. so her video in court of her arraignment, she was staring at the camera and like and like smiling and like posing. It was so weird. It was unnerving. And when people would ask her questions, she would be like C. Si. Like answering yes in Spanish. Like it was just Like it was a game to her. Like this was this was a Tuesday. This was nothing. Yeah. So we were convinced that we were gonna get a mental plea. A an insanity plea. And and when you see everything else and you look at her history and you look at her rest history and her psychiatric history and and we were real scared about that. We thought it was coming. Yep. she was initially ruled incompetent to stand trial due to severe mental illness and was committed to the North Coast Behavioral Health for inpatient treatment. After several months of restoration treatment, doctors determined she had regained competency, allowing the criminal case to proceed. And we were shocked. Yes, the fuck we were. I thought we were gonna have another Robert Deere. I really did. We yeah, we thought she pled not guilty by reason of insanity, with her defense arguing she was experiencing a severe mental disease at the time of the attack. Her trial began on October sixth of twenty twenty five. After more than a week of testimony and roughly eight hours of jury deliberations The jury rejected her insanity defense and found Ellis guilty on all nine charges on October fifteenth of twenty twenty five. And we were floored. Yeah. Yeah, we were. I I was very, very floored. The convictions included aggravated murder, murder, attempted murder, felonist assault, child endangering, and theft-related offenses. On October 27, 2025, Judge John Russo sentenced Ellis to life in prison without the possibility of parole, calling the attack one of the most heartbreaking acts of violence he had ever encountered. During the emotional sentencing hearing, Julian's family delivered heartbreaking victim impact statements describing the unimaginable loss of their son. I will never forget his father's face. No. Ever. In any of the hearings that he spoke at. Absolutely. Gut devastating Yeah. Yeah. Ellis's attorneys have since file filed an appeal arguing the jury was improperly instructed regarding the insanity defense and challenging several aspects of the trial. As of right now, the appeal remains pending. Yeah. The case devastated the North Olmsted community and drew national attention in honor of Julian. a colorful dinosaur mural was created on the side of the giant eagle grocery store where the attack occurred, serving as a lasting tribute to the joyful little boy whose life was taken far too soon. Yeah. I forgot about his dinosaur memorial until you said it just now. It makes I know. It makes my heart happy. Mhm. So it as long as the appeal doesn't go through, I'm pretty sure we're Done with this case. Hopefully. Yeah. Let's hope. Mhm. I I hope so. I hope so. Just recently we released a Vault episode about a tragic murder. and yeah, sorry, we had to release that. I was sick. Yeah. But it was about the tragic murder of Cassie Carly, who did absolutely everything right when leaving her abuser so she could raise her daughter, Sailor, in a very safe environment. On March twenty seventh, twenty twenty two, in Navarre, Florida, Cassie went to meet Marcus Vanavello. Thank you. For a custody exchange of their daughter Sailor. Spanivello? Mm-hmm. Okay. And literally it's phonetically. Spanivello. Hell yeah. It's span. We love phonetically said words. This is who I yelled at in our last episode, guys. It is. Did you see how she just perked up? How she just sat her ass up. She was like, ooh, Casic Carly, let me get ready. Cassie never returned home that evening of the exchange, and her family immediately knew something was wrong. Five days later, Marcus was arrested in Tennessee on charges related to Cassie's disappearance. Just one day later, on April 2nd, 2022, Cassie's body was found buried in a shallow grave in Alabama. If you remember from our original episode, Marcus absolutely loves filing motions in court. It was his favorite form of abuse. He also even like he fought his extradition extradition from Alabama to Florida. When we last left off, his next hearing was scheduled for January of twenty twenty five, when where he was expected to enter his plea before trial. Because Cassie's body was found in Alabama and investigators believe that is where she was murdered, the federal case was being handled there. Then in December of 2024, officials announced that the trial was expected to begin on April 28th, 2025. Then in February of 2025, things took another turn. The Department of Justice announced they would review whether Marcus qualified for the federal death penalty after the federal government resumed seeking capital punishment in eligible cases. And I was initially excited about that. And now I wish they never would have done this. Yes. A hearing was scheduled for July 7th to determine whether prosecutors could move forward with seeking the death penalty. Since the death penalty was now potentially on the table, Marcus was entitled to additional legal representation from an attorney experienced in capital cases. So in March of 2025, Jeffrey Urtel joined the defense team. Almost immediately. The defense filed another motion requesting more time. According to the filing, Urtel had already committed to representing another death row inmate whose execution was scheduled for April twenty-third. Yeah. And that's not mention about the fact that his lawyers wanted to travel to his home country so they could really understand their client. Or we had Italy vacations that just couldn't be rescheduled. Those are part of the delays in this fucking trial. After that He had a long planned family trip to Italy that he said he could not reschedule. On top of that, because Marcus spent so much of his time in Brazil, the defense Brazil I couldn't frickin' remember where he was from, but I knew it was somewhere. The defense argued they would need additional time to travel there and conduct a thorough mitigation investigation into his background. They just wanted a free trip to Brazil. Yeah, they did. The motion requesting a sixty day compliance was filed on April fourth of twenty twenty five. Honestly, at this point I don't think anyone was surprised. No if you have followed this case, you know Marcus has filed motion after motion after motion after motion, like it's fucking nonstop. Like it's his full time job. Like it is his full time job does this man file court motions? Even when he couldn't have a stable house in order for Sailor to go to and was lying about it, and he was supposedly working all the time. Out of town. He still made this shit his full time job. He would come back into town and file ten motions and go back out of town again. I hate this man. Yeah. It almost feels like every time this case gets close to like moving forward, another was request lands on the judge's desk, like I've never seen somebody who can work the court system so well in my life. The court ultimately granted the con continuance, pushing the hearing back to September. Unfortunately, that was not the last delay. Nope. As this case continued through federal court, the Department of Justice officially decided to seek the federal death penalty against him, as we said. Marcus entered a plea of not guilty, and because this is now a federal capital case, the amount of preparation required has increased dramatically. Death penalty cases involve extensive investigation, expert witnesses, mitigation. sorry, mitigation evidence and countless pretrial motions, making them some sort like it it makes it the most complex fucking cases in the country. Honestly, I'm starting to think that Colorado got rid of the death penalties to stop having to deal with this shit. Ugh, probably, yeah. As of today, there's still not been a trial. Federal prosecutors have proposed an April of twenty twenty seven trial date, while the defense has argued they They that's not enough time. That they need more time if the death penalty remains on the table. Before a jury can be selected, the court still has to resolve multiple challenges related to the government's decision if they are seeking the death penalty. As you guys can tell, I I could sit here and talk about Cassie Carly and Marcus for hours and hours and hours. It's like Barry Morphew. I could be here all week with you if you wanted me to, but I won't be. So that's all. I'm gonna stay on it for now. Don't threaten her with a gifted. You guys will see updates on it. You'll be hearing more, so please follow all of our socials so that you do not miss updates on him. Yes. So now I'm about to say a name that you haven't heard from us in a long time. Actually, that's why it was literally last week. We literally just mentioned her last week because I had a fangirl. Not over the case, over who covers the case. Madeline Soto. This case is still unbelievable to me. Yeah. Yeah. As much as from when I heard it the first time, it's still unbelievable. I will n I Tell the people who she is. The last time we discussed this case, we were awaiting trial for Stefan Stearns. Well we have a very significant update in the heartbreaking case of thirteen year old Maddie. For those who may not be familiar with the case, which is crazy to me, Madeline Soto was a thirteen year old girl from Kissimmee, Florida. What is it? Kissimmee. I wanna say it different. Okay. Whatever. She was reported missing late of February of twenty twenty four after she never arrived at school following a birthday celebration. Her birthday celebration. Her thirteenth birthday. Mm-hmm. Her disappearance immediately sparked an intensive search involving local, state, and federal enforcement agencies. As investigators worked to piece together Madeline's final movements, attention quickly turned to Stefan Stearns, the boyfriend of Madeline Soto's mother. Stefan initially participated in media interviews and spoke with investigators, but as investigation progressed, authorities uncovered evidence that contradicted all of his statements. Surveillance footage. Digital evidence and forensic findings ultimately led investigators to conclude that Madeline had been murdered. Yeah. As the investigation continued, it was also revealed I'm sorry, it also revealed evidence of prolonged sexual abuse. Prosecutors ultimately charged Stearns with first-degree murder, along with more than 60 child sexual abuse offenses involving Maddie. The disturbing nature of the evidence made this one of the most shocking and heartbreaking child abuse cases in recent years. Now, more than two years after Madeline's death, the criminal case has officially come to an end. Stefan Stearns entered a no-contest plea to the charge of first degree murder and guilty pleas to the numerous child sexual abuse charges. Rather than taking the case to trial, both the prosecution and the defense agreed to resolve the case through a plea agreement. Judge Keith Karsten sentenced Stearns to 21 life sentences without the possibility of parole. As part of the agreement, Stearns also waived all rights to appeal, meaning his convictions and sentences are final. Thank God. But also he's a little pussy ass bitch, and we knew that he was gonna be silent and this was gonna come from him. Yeah, we knew. We knew. We knew. The plea agreement also meant that prosecutors would no longer pursue the death penalty. Instead of presenting the evidence before a jury during what would likely have been a lengthy and emotionally difficult trial, the case concluded with Stearns accepting responsibility through his pleas and receiving the multiple life sentences. With those pleas entered and sentencing complete, the criminal procedures are officially closed. Yeah. Don't worry, we didn't forget about a very key person in this case. No, we have not. Jennifer Soto. Madeline's mom. Unfortunately she has not been charged. I don't know why they will not say shit about her. I don't know why they won't charge her. I mean, we have w I I go into I go into more details on this, by the way. I we can't even I and and let me let me step back for a second. I don't even want to call this woman a mother because she's not a mother. she she's a a vessel. that that gave birth and brought Madeline into this world because a mother does not do what she did. A mother does not defend a boyfriend for doing this to her daughter. Does a mother doesn't give the opportunity to the boyfriend to be able to do this. Mm-hmm. A mother doesn't allow her boyfriend to do this to keep him around. Let's get into more evidence, shall we? She has not been criminally charged in connection with her daughter's abuse or murder. And I don't know how. Law enforcement officials confirmed that investigators found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing on her part. What do you mean? What do you mean? But there was phone evidence. However, however. Investigative documents and police interviews released throughout the case sparked massive public outrage regarding her actions. She had knowledge of the abuse. Investigative reports revealed Jennifer admitted to detectives that she noticed signs of Stefan Stearns grooming Madeline. She also expressed a fear that the dynamic would turn into a quote Woody Allen situation, end quote when Madeline grew older. She also had very specific sleeping arrangements. Documents noted that Jennifer frequently allowed Madeline to sleep alone in the bedroom because she trusted him. She also, like she said, initially provided protection of Stefan Stearns. During early police interviews, She heavily defended him. When investigators initially confronted her with photographic evidence of the sexual abuse found on his phone, she reacted by stating He needs a lawyer. It it was like somebody was showing her a takeout menu. It was like somebody was showing her a picture of her front yard. There there wasn't any shock. There wasn't any horror. There wasn't a gasp. There wasn't a I didn't know about this. It was a Yeah, it's a lawyer. About that. Yeah. Also, don't forget all of her inconsistent fucking timelines. Or that she couldn't find a picture of her easily on her phone. Yeah. Jennifer initially gave conflicting accounts to the police. First claiming she saw Madeline getting ready for school. on the morning of her disappearance, but later admitting she didn't see her child that morning at all. Yeah. Hello? Ugh, whatever. Jennifer Soto did not attend any of his plea or sentencing hearings, nor did she submit a victim impact statement. Her not submitting a victim impact statement just man, that really grinds my gears. Let me tell you what. man, let me just hi. Mm-hmm. Like of all the things of all the things the the bare minimum, the smallest little amount of thing that you could have done as a mother, mm-hmm. Th the the the one s you know what I mean? And I and I didn't even have expect I didn't even have expectations higher than Mackenzie Shrilla's mother. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I I expected this solely to be about her. But like probably. No, you you zero. She gave zero. Nothing. She gave zero fucks about her daughter. She gave as many fucks about that as she did about her daughter. Yes, yes she did. She she didn't even attend her daughter's birthday the night before. It's fine. Y you would have had to chain me and lock me in a room somewhere to have me miss my daughter's thirteenth birthday. I don't know what she was doing, but she wasn't there. I had a work event. yeah, I forgot. Damn. One of the most heartbreaking parts of the sentencing hearing, though, was hearing directly from Madeline's biological father. His name is Tyler Wallace. God. He did not hold back when he addressed Stefan Stearns, calling him a coward, a monster, and someone who preyed on a vulnerable family for his own sick and selfish reasons. Tyler shared that even though he and Madeline had gone through a period where they weren't as close because of distance and financial struggles, they had been working on rebuilding their relationship. He talked about her last visit with him in October of 2023 and shared something that was absolutely. According to Tyler, she smiled and said, Yes. Hearing him say that he was so close to bringing her home and knowing he'll never get to watch her grow up is just It's heartbreaking. Yeah. That is absolutely heartbreaking. Tyler also spoke about the unimaginable impact this has had on their family. He said this tragedy didn't just take Madeline's life, it completely changed the lives of everyone who loved her. He explained that unlike other losses he's experienced, this grief hasn't gone easier with time. In fact, he says it only gets worse as he continues to think about everything that she endured. He ended his statement by telling Stearns that he hopes he lives a very long life in prison. Where he'll have to live with the consequences of what he did every single day. I also wanna point out There's a special place for men like him in prison. yeah, they love them. And very special people waiting for him. I love it when family members wish a long life on somebody with a life prison sentence with charges or convictions like this. Regarding children. crimes against children. They are not taken very well. And he's not on death row. So he doesn't get the cushy protection. Yep. I I hope I hope Bubba finds him. I hope Bubba loves him. I think Bubba gonna love him really. I think Bubba really gonna like him. Tyler was not the only one who spoke that day. Madeline's grandmother, Yolanda, also gave a powerful statement. I need y'all to know that's one of my favorite names in the whole world, by the way. Yolanda. One of my coworkers' mom's name is Yolanda. I love that name. I I just I wanna state I love the name Yolanda, it's one of my favorite names. You've never were a fan of Selena, were you? No, I've recently learned about her in like the past like eight years or so. Well I know I know that thing, but I have if mine is from Disney. This has nothing to do with that. But it's one of my favourite names. Regardless of that, I always forget about that. We don't talk about her. We don't talk about Bruno. We don't like anyone named Yolanda because of Selena. Yeah, but I have my own reasons for loving the name Yolanda and I like that name. Very specifically, I think she's one of the most hated women in the world. she is. yeah. Her and Casey Anthony could probably have a celebrity boxing match over who's more hated. That would be so fun. Wouldn't it? Yes, let's do it. So Yolanda said she helped raise Madeline like she was her second mother, and described how Stern's betrayal destroyed their family's trust and took a piece of all of them with it. A former roommate also spoke, revealing that Stefan had secretly taken new photos of her without her knowledge and consent when they lived in the same home, showing that his disturbing behavior extended beyond what he did to Madeline. So he was a pervert. Yeah, I'm not surprised, but like, damn. Mm-hmm. For many people who followed this case from the very beginning, like us. Like I had so many conspiracies. I don't know how many times I'd be like, well, what about this? And what about this? Which by the way, can I say this was our first WTF that we did in season one? Like we had her in this, and it was when we were sitting on that windowsill on our beanbags. I need to s I need to correct something. This shit's been haunting me. Listen, we made a comment about a parrot. It wasn't a parrot. Apparently it was a dog feeder and it had the recording on it of Madeline's voice. We got our asses ripped over that shit, y'all. We didn't no, nobody knew. We didn't find out what that was until well after that episode released. And someone told us, and even then it really wasn't that widely known. But I have not corrected that in so long, but it just killed me. We haven't done another update to be able to correct it though. I think we talked about her in another WTF because I remember talking to her and about it in the old studio. Yeah. it was actually our update Yeah, one of our updates, yes, I do believe. So I just want to call a parrot. It wasn't a parrot. It was the the one of the animal feeding machines that had her voice that you can record a message on it. So we apologize, y'all. We were baby. Yeah, but also we wanted to talk about pretty little liars and that gave us the opportunity to do it. With the parent. yeah. Yeah. So we do apologize. We got something wrong in the very beginning, but that has I'm not kidding you, that was what, like two and a half years ago and that's built like sitting saying. I have been replaying that for so long. It's still on our TikTok by the way, go look at it. It is. regardless. So this moment right here finally brings a sense of legal finality. While no sentence can ever undo what happened to her, or erase the pain experienced by her family and loved ones, the court's decision ensures that Stefan Stearns will remain the rest of his life in prison with no possibility of parole or appeals. Yeah. I'm just genuinely curious on what kind of Deal Jen got for this. Same. Absolutely the same. Madeline's story touched countless people across the country who followed every development in hopes that justice would be served. Although the criminal case is now concluded, her memory continues to live on through those who have advocated for her and through the conversations her case has sparked about protecting vulnerable children and seeking justice for victims of abuse. As always, we'll continue to report any future developments related to this case. Hopefully There's only one update that I will ever hope for in this case, and that is that charges come against Jen. Same. That is the only update that I hope ever happens in this case. Or some prison justice, Jeffrey Dahmer style. After a few years though, give him some Yeah, no no no. We need to not do it instant. instantly. Give him some time, okay? Give him some time. Give him a few years. Just indicate her. Don't let him sleep though. Ooh. Y'all know the drill. Don't let him sleep. Don't let him be comfy. Also don't let him be in solitude. Yeah, keep his ass keep his ass out of solitude. You guys don't be rocking his shit too much to where they put him away. Let him stay with you. Anyway. But with that, we always remember Madeline Soto. I hope she is now resting in peace. So. Those are our updates. Those are the updates, you guys. You made it. Officially, officially done with the updates for now. Now y'all just have my deep dives to look forward to, which I think you might have liked the updates better. I don't know what cases I'm doing. We'll figure it out. I actually I have a few locked and loaded up in this chamber, so we'll see. my And let's see here. We are it is September first. Yes. So our live show is going to be in a couple days that we just talked to you guys about. the Lindsay Clancy trial should be wrapping up. God, hopefully it's done by now. it's supposed to be like a four so week trial. Five weeks, something like that. This is six weeks been. We did six no, we did five. We did five. So the Lindsay Clancy trial should be wrapping up. We should be in deliberations, something of that nature. If you haven't really been on top of that one, go check out our social media, Facebook, Instagram, it's gonna be all over there. Yeah. and I will be having an episode about her sometime this season. Eventually. so hers is gonna take a little bit more 'cause there's another episode that I would like to pair with it. So We will get to that and I will have those paired. I just don't know which way I want to release but yeah, I don't those were really good updates and we needed updates on all those cases. We closed out quite a few cases. We have a few still having justice loaded. but it seems like it's coming. Which is good. Which is really, really good. We did get justice in the majority of them, which is also very good. Which is what we want in this situation. We want our victims' names alive and out there while they're The selfish motherfuckers who took them are rotting away. Yeah. So yeah, thank you so much for listening to a whole month worth of update episodes, but it was so necessary. Yeah. And we're really excited to see you on Thursday. Yes, we are. And we're gonna get our lives back on track now and into some deep dives. Yeah. Cool. We've got some really good ones coming for you. Anyway, if you will not be there on Thursday We will see you next Tuesday for a deep dive. Yes, we will. Have a good one. Stop killing each other. Lock your damn doors. Stop leaving your fucking friends. Okay, love you. Bye.