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Ep. 901: Trump’s Turkey Ammo, Venison at Wimbledon, Death Threats in Alabama, Texas Turns Soft · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the news show everybody. Today, We've got the
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  Speaker 1: auction House of Oddities, reducts, a local goose population gets eradicated,
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  Speaker 1: and death threats ensue. Spencer ties up loose ends Wimbledon,
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  Speaker 1: the tennis thing is serving venison. Florida. Coyotes are living
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  Speaker 1: off iguanas. Seriously, Dope and weed are sort of like synonyms.
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  Speaker 1: Politicians are wetting their beaks as a godfather, reference on
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  Speaker 1: tungsten medals and more. But first our news, I'll talk
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: about our news. Auction House of Bodities far and away
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  Speaker 1: the biggest auction house of bodities ever. Now, just how
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  Speaker 1: about what the auction House of Bodities is. It's a
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  Speaker 1: fundraiser we do for our own Land Access Initiative. All
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  Speaker 1: the money that comes in from the auction House of
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  Speaker 1: Bodities goes to the Land Access Initiative. The Land Access
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  Speaker 1: our Land Access Initiative is used to fund access enhancement
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  Speaker 1: projects around the country. We help fund a project in Maine,
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  Speaker 1: we helped fund a project in Montana, We're working on
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  Speaker 1: one down in North Carolina, Wyoming.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that's what we use the money.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's important to mention that, like we help
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  Speaker 3: just because like the magnitude of these projects and then
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  Speaker 3: why we ask for help because like we couldn't do
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  Speaker 3: it ourselves. These are big, you know, and so there's
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  Speaker 3: like like like there's other other organizations and maybe you know,
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  Speaker 3: government agencies that are adding in way more money than
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  Speaker 3: we're bringing to the table, but we're helping, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I want to say add in like some of
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  Speaker 1: these things are many millions of dollars of deals, like
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  Speaker 1: the Tuckertown thing, it's it's it's tucker Town is there's
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  Speaker 1: a big piece of public access land that was gonna
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  Speaker 1: get sold off and made not public. So we were
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  Speaker 1: working with on X and when there's other partners involved
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  Speaker 1: and raising money to start buying all these parts. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's what the Land Access Initiative is all about.
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  Speaker 1: And we do the fundraiser the auction Ausbodities, which is
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  Speaker 1: live is it live? It's live?
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  Speaker 4: When does say it goes live the morning of July eighth?
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  Speaker 1: Live here?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here's what's in the auction sabot.
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  Speaker 1: This is by far the biggest auctionaus ofodities ever because
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  Speaker 1: this is thirty two items.
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  Speaker 2: These are keepers.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the show doss boat, our
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  Speaker 1: old show doss boat. We have one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: horse power outdoor sorry a Honda one hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 1: outboard scoots barely barely. The only hours on that motor
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  Speaker 1: are the hours that were spent fishing that show.
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  Speaker 2: So she could just go count the hours. That's how
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  Speaker 2: many hours around that motor?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing. Our new studio with all the barnboard, the leftover
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  Speaker 1: barnboard from that project, brand new Old Town fishing kayak,
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  Speaker 1: all decked out for fishing. My weather Be left tanded
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  Speaker 1: weather Be Mark five chambered in two fifty seven weather Be.
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  Speaker 1: It's a rifle I used and we were hunting prong
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  Speaker 1: Hame with Luke Holmbs and Wyoming. I used it on
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  Speaker 1: Montana Mountain goat hunt. That rifle. It's got an MDT
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  Speaker 1: chassis stock on it, but it's also got the original
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  Speaker 1: stock that we're throwing in. We got my whole twenty
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  Speaker 1: years worth of writing in books, all signed. We have
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  Speaker 1: a football helmet that we don't know where it came from,
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  Speaker 1: but it's been here a long time.
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  Speaker 4: Did anybody offer any kind of hypothesis, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: It's a me eater football hunt, somebody would have reached
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  Speaker 3: out to Carl. I'll do it right now.
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  Speaker 1: Our punt gun. We're auctioning off punt gun shell casings
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  Speaker 1: we alto have. It's not an auction, but the hats
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  Speaker 1: we have that say this hat was shot by a
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  Speaker 1: punt gun. It's hats that were shot by a punt gun.
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  Speaker 1: You can just go buy those hats. There's a bunch of.
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  Speaker 4: Them, seventy three of them, seventy five dollars apiece. You
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  Speaker 4: are buying one of the random hats. Some of them
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  Speaker 4: are absolutely covered in pellets and pellet holes. Some of
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  Speaker 4: them even shake them. You'll hear that pellets inside. Other ones,
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  Speaker 4: you know, just got grazed by one or two pellets.
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  Speaker 4: You're just getting one of those random but they're all wounded,
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  Speaker 4: all wounded.
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  Speaker 1: And it says this hat was shot by a punt gun.
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  Speaker 1: This all goes to fun Access Initiatives. Okay, we got
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  Speaker 1: a couple Spinners spittoons that I believe we're gifted to
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  Speaker 1: us by the dip enthusiast Jared Outlaw. We got one
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  Speaker 1: of our old Phelps Line one limited edition turkey calls
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  Speaker 1: a Walnut tree in os George Tree that Me and
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  Speaker 1: Phelps chainsaw Down had calls made from them. We did
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  Speaker 1: a rough Cuts episode recently where I killed a milder
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  Speaker 1: in Montana. That meal deer skull my a prime archery
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  Speaker 1: left handed bow of mine used on me Eater episodes.
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  Speaker 1: My Dad's shitty old truck nineteen ninety seven Ford f
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  Speaker 1: one to fifty extended cab.
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  Speaker 2: Shitty old truck.
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  Speaker 4: I expected older and shittier. Oh yeah, it doesn't look that, listen.
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  Speaker 1: I sold it when my dad died.
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  Speaker 2: I drove it.
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  Speaker 1: Then I sold it to my buddy. He sold it
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  Speaker 1: back to me for one thousand dollars. Oh good mileage
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty thousand miles on it. So my
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  Speaker 1: dad's old truck, which I lived out of that truck
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  Speaker 1: for a while working on a book. But here's the deal.
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  Speaker 1: It's full of new hunting gear. You can bet on
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  Speaker 1: that and Mark Kenyon will personally deliver my dad's shitty
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  Speaker 1: old truck full of new hunting gear to you.
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  Speaker 4: It's got a five hundred dollars First Light gift card,
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  Speaker 4: two hundred dollars Meat Eater Store gift card, a whole
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  Speaker 4: bunch of other stuff. We got decoy stuff. From Fahf.
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  Speaker 4: It's loaded with.
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  Speaker 1: Gear, a self bow made by Baron Newcombe.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuckertown theme, so I'm keeping with the land access initiative.
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  Speaker 4: It's a real piece of art.
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  Speaker 1: Sign me Eater Trivia board game, Sign me Eater Trivia
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  Speaker 1: expansion packs. Sign me Eater Trivia Collector's Edition. Handmade dinosaur
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  Speaker 1: own earrings out of Spencer Newhart's personal collection. Handmade mammoth
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  Speaker 1: bone necklace, Spencer Newhart's personal collection made by my wife.
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  Speaker 1: Handmade tallow products made by me and my wife. Box
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  Speaker 1: of rocks literal box of rocks. Yes, fossils, gemstones out
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  Speaker 1: of Spencer Newhart's personal collections.
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  Speaker 4: Dinosaur bones, petrified wood, fish fossils, leaf fossils, all kinds
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  Speaker 4: of sea life in there.
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  Speaker 2: Spencer came through hard on this m You.
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  Speaker 5: Just imagine how much stuff he still has that his house.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like my house is an auction house aboudity, Yeah, adjacent.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're not even scratching the surface over No, No.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just giving you like seatier things.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the crew library, here's a good one.
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  Speaker 1: No for an r Sea car signed by NASCAR driver
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  Speaker 1: Chase Elliott for NASCAR enthusiasts out there. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: functioning working our sea car signed by Chase Elliott. We
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  Speaker 1: have the Meat Eater Crew Library. Everyone in the crew
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  Speaker 1: went and picked a favorite book out of their own
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  Speaker 1: personal library, and you'll get all the favorite books. Will
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  Speaker 1: sign them over to you.
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  Speaker 4: These are not new books either. You can tell they've
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  Speaker 4: been read.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, these are old classes. I was real torn about
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  Speaker 1: what I was going to throw into there for me,
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  Speaker 1: real tor choose, I can't remember.
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  Speaker 4: I was still torn about the Big Sky.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's right. Ab Gothree is the Big Sky. That's right,
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  Speaker 1: Mountain Man novel.
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  Speaker 2: Aby Gothree's the Big Sky.
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  Speaker 1: And I was gonna throw I was gonna throw into
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  Speaker 1: Vicara of the Brush Country. Did oh, that's why I
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  Speaker 1: was torn, not torn. I put them both in there.
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  Speaker 1: That's okay, Vicara of the Brush Country and uh and
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  Speaker 1: we did. We did an episode of Steve Reid's books
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  Speaker 1: that you ain't got to about the care of the
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  Speaker 1: Brush Country. The me Eater Crew pantry where everyone brought
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  Speaker 1: in items from their own homemade items from their own
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  Speaker 1: pantry stocks, chutneys.
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  Speaker 4: Smoke, salmon smoke, sam apple, butter, pickle, bear, grease, no
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  Speaker 4: bear grease.
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  Speaker 1: And og. Oh, a really old camera that we filmed
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of Meat Eater episodes with. It's called the
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  Speaker 1: og Meat Eater Cinema camera. First Light. Cody gloves with
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  Speaker 1: custom artwork on them. Mark Kenyan's tethered saddle hunting kit signed.
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  Speaker 1: And here's okay, Brent Reeves bow to Matthews. We have
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  Speaker 1: a thing that was donated to us in order to
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  Speaker 1: put in the auction offs of bodies, which is a
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  Speaker 1: Model ninety four lever action rifle chambered in thirty thirty.
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  Speaker 1: And then here's one that I feel guilty haveing because
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  Speaker 1: we shouldn't have it. A box of fly fishing memorabilia
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  Speaker 1: from the personal collection of Lefty Cray. Lefty Cray's personal
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  Speaker 1: correspondence ties that Lefty Cray tied, ties that got flies,
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  Speaker 1: tip flies, the heat tied flies that his friends tied
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  Speaker 1: and gave to him.
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  Speaker 2: People are annoyed that we wound up with this.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll bet well if they're annoyed.
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  Speaker 3: Did did his state?
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  Speaker 1: Yes? Yes, gifted to us.
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  Speaker 2: Because the state gifted to us, a museum should be
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  Speaker 2: buying it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: If I could pick one thing from our auction house
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  Speaker 4: to have and pick this.
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  Speaker 1: Harvard has a fit history of fishing exit exhibit. This
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  Speaker 1: should be there. This shouldn't be in our office.
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  Speaker 5: And it should it should The collection should be called
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  Speaker 5: If it.
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  Speaker 2: Ain't chart truce, If it ain't chart truth, ain't no use.
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  Speaker 1: There. You have it. Auction outs Bodies Live Now goes
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  Speaker 1: for two weeks. It's gonna be big. Get your bids
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  Speaker 1: in now. Some of the stuff you get, there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of items you got to pick up. Most of
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: the stuff we just mailed to you. You can read
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  Speaker 1: all about it. If that ain't enough fund raising, Yanni.
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  Speaker 3: Is it too early to start thinking about Turkey.
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  Speaker 1: Honey, No, because it's time to start planning, planning.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got plans probably in I'm guessing middle of
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  Speaker 3: April again. We're gonna go back to the same farm
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  Speaker 3: that you and I and a couple of TRCP Hunt
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  Speaker 3: winners from last year we're at in mid April. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna be back there in twenty twenty seven with this
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  Speaker 3: year's winners. And the sweepstakes is going on right now,
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  Speaker 3: so you can buy tickets. There's some pictures up here
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  Speaker 3: on if you're watching, there's day one. John Clowner so
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  Speaker 3: the winner actually didn't come. He had was his wife
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  Speaker 3: was about to give birth, and so he sent his
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  Speaker 3: two brother brothers in law and you know we.
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  Speaker 2: Had we later had him for dinner.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how was he?
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  Speaker 1: It's great?
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  Speaker 2: Me and Spencer hosted them for dinner.
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  Speaker 1: Oh cool.
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  Speaker 3: So there's one of his brothers in law and myself
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  Speaker 3: on day one and then same day actually Steve you
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  Speaker 3: killed with Stephen, right, we killed three I think. The
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  Speaker 3: first day there's Steven helping the boys butcher their birds.
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  Speaker 3: What else. So the next one, oh, there's some awesome
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  Speaker 3: fishing there. That's a little guy. That's the only guy
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  Speaker 3: we took pictures of. But there are some like three
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  Speaker 3: foot plus muskie that I'm going to be prepared to
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  Speaker 3: catch when we go back next.
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  Speaker 2: This is private pond fishing.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there are reclaimed reclaimed quarries. Yeah. Anyways, great farm,
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  Speaker 3: great turkey hunting, and for a great cause.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know what TRCP does is uh ensuring.
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  Speaker 1: Guaranteeing Americans quality places the hunting fish. There you go.
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  Speaker 1: So we cover all the expenses, We cover your airfare, transportation, tags, lodging.
• 11:37
  Speaker 3: We bring in a cook yeah, which is probably going
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  Speaker 3: to be Andy again, I hope so, which is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: And let's not let's not forget. Guy Groenwald is hosting us.
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  Speaker 3: We've had on You've had on the interview show. Very
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  Speaker 3: entertaining host. I mean, if you're interested in all about
• 11:56
  Speaker 3: the fur business in the United States of America, the
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  Speaker 3: guy has answers and more.
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  Speaker 2: And he'll holds us for tacos.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's it's awesome. It's a great, great time. And
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  Speaker 3: like I said, it's for a great cause. So go
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  Speaker 3: buy some Raffle tickets. I think you can get ten
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  Speaker 3: for twenty five and then there's more options as if
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: you want to spend more money. Thanks. Oh, I have
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  Speaker 3: another piece of R news.
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  Speaker 1: I just got some input on this too on TRCP.
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  Speaker 1: No on what you're gonna talk about right now?
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  Speaker 3: Oh great, you're doing a little little little research.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. A duck's unlimited. A duck the guy I know
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  Speaker 1: in life that knows the most about ducks, next to
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  Speaker 1: Max Barto.
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  Speaker 3: Yep, he responded to you.
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  Speaker 1: He says, only the hen's quack in the air.
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  Speaker 2: Ducks make a noise. They don't quack.
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  Speaker 3: Drake's making noise.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Johnnie's saying that he watched some drakes going.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just the other day, maybe two three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 3: I was fishing with Tony Peterson, doing a little fishing
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  Speaker 3: show on his local lake, catching uh, smallies and largemouth.
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  Speaker 3: And there were not a lot, but quite a few
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  Speaker 3: ducks here here and there. And you'd see him sitting
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  Speaker 3: on people's docks or you know, up against the shore.
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  Speaker 3: And multiple times we had drakes fly by us quacking.
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  Speaker 2: When you say quack, does.
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  Speaker 3: It quite sound like a hens quack? Maybe not exactly,
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  Speaker 3: was it? It was not that sound. It was not
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  Speaker 3: the drake whistle.
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  Speaker 4: Compliments to you see, if you're good at that, you
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  Speaker 4: got that one.
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  Speaker 2: That's the same noise I make for a turkey spitting
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  Speaker 2: and struck.
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  Speaker 5: Spitting parts of the best.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't know how those turkeys do it with
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  Speaker 3: that funny little tongue of theirs they spin.
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  Speaker 1: Say you make the noise you heard? It was?
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  Speaker 3: It was a quack?
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  Speaker 1: Is just in Max Bart. It was like a duck
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  Speaker 1: maniac duck maniacs saying that you must be hearing a
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  Speaker 1: hen somewhere else.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, but lip sync it was. It wasn't just me
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  Speaker 3: versus Max. There was another ankle in the boat Tony Peterson,
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  Speaker 3: who was seeing and hearing the exact same thing. We're
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  Speaker 3: watching a drake literally fly by us. His mouth opens
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  Speaker 3: and you hear a quack, not a whistle, and then
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  Speaker 3: he does it again, and then we see another drake
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  Speaker 3: the next day and he does it again.
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  Speaker 1: They pull up, pull up, drake, Mallard quacking.
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  Speaker 3: We should have Phil pulled up and then Phil can
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  Speaker 3: put it.
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  Speaker 1: That's a whole ton of ducks.
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  Speaker 2: That's no good. That's a dumb video.
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  Speaker 6: Joe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be like, never mind, that'd take
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  Speaker 1: a little more time anyways. Okay, so I didn't make
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  Speaker 1: the noise again.
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  Speaker 3: My my, my, My theory is that it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those things like, uh yeah, all while game tastes bad,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's it's like someone told Max and my brother
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  Speaker 3: in law who's a huge duck hunter, and every other
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  Speaker 3: dude that's just a hardcore duck hunter that only the
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  Speaker 3: hens quack. That's what I've always been.
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  Speaker 1: An antelope don't go over fences except the ones that do.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, expect some emails about this one, I think.
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  Speaker 3: And so that even though he's literally seeing a drake
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  Speaker 3: flying by quacking, he still is just like, no, there's
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  Speaker 3: a hen over on the bank somewhere that's quacking, and
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  Speaker 3: it just happens to be coinciding with that drake opening
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  Speaker 3: his mouth.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I got hit.
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  Speaker 6: I got a Cornell ornithology lab open, hope, here we go.
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  Speaker 6: This is under male calls. Shh huh.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot like a quack. Like a quack, do
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  Speaker 1: a hen quacking? It's more like a quack. Yeah, like
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: a quack. And she's gonna get it. Yeah, let's see
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  Speaker 1: your point now.
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  Speaker 3: Just so that the viewers and listeners also can hear
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  Speaker 3: play play the drake whistle? Is that also right there
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  Speaker 3: in the list of male call.
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  Speaker 1: Nope, well you can hear.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear in the background.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they do a longer one.
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  Speaker 5: The Cornell left also says definitively, the male does not quack.
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  Speaker 6: Instead, he gives a quieter, rasping one or two noted call.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a quack with a capital queue and a
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  Speaker 5: quack with a little cue.
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  Speaker 3: There you go, somewhere in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: This is the last spit of our news. Over to Spencer.
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  Speaker 4: I was just down the Oregon coast for a week
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  Speaker 4: and I got two highlights.
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  Speaker 2: Were you with missus Newhart.
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  Speaker 4: I was, yes, for most of the trip. We split
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  Speaker 4: up for here and there, but yeah, we were on
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  Speaker 4: the Oregon coast together.
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  Speaker 2: You were split up for a whole night.
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  Speaker 4: No, the closest was like seven hours where I went
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  Speaker 4: fishing and she went shopping.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Really, man, my wife just not approached vacations that way.
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: Well, if you plan it, then you could be like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: here's here's what we're doing during this seven hour stretch.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: There's no way your wife doesn't have a little loane
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: time during a.
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  Speaker 1: Vacation I went away. If I went like just her
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: and I went away on a trip and I said, hey,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: I got an idea for today, that's not no.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: If I was like I'm taking all the kids and
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: we're going fishing, that'd be like knock yourselves out.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Just the two of you, and you're like, hey, didn't
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: you want to go to the spa? Which I know
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: that she loves hitting the spa.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not going to be like seven hours. No,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I mean we go away the two of us like
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: once every decade.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: Like for me, the picture doesn't have kids different, all right,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: What was the what was the highlight?
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Two highlights? The first highlight we were together for Primarily
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: why we went there was to see the puffins. There's
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: a few million, Yeah, there's a few million tufted puffins
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: on the earth, but if you want to see them,
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: you need to get on a boat to go somewhere
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: far away or go to Alaska. But in the lower
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: forty eight, if you want to be standing on shore
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: and see a puffin, there's like one place you go,
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: and it's called hay Stack Rock. It's in This is
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: Haystack Rock.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: That's a famous rock. It gets its picture taken away.
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: It does. Yes, it's not a cannon beach Oregon covered
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: in birds. But there's only about one hundred tufted puffins
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: that live here. Now is the best time to go
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: see them, like literally right now, because the parents will
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: get out of their den. They'll go fish out at sea,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: and then they'll come back with a mouthful of fish
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: and then they'll feed their young. So they're just like
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: extra visible, especially in the morning. So we go to
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: see the puffed, puffed or the tufted puffins, and you know,
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: only one hundred of them up there. My wife'spots went
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: right away, and so pull up the binos and we've
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: got a spotting scope and we're looking in this this
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: is not this is a different one we saw later
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: in totally just uh no, no, your good film. In total,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: we saw nine of the tufted Puffins. Of the hundred
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: we saw them, and the first one we see, there's
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: like one that looks like this, it's got the white
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: face mask, and we saw another one had the black
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: face mask.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: So all the birds in that picture are not only
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the one in the middle of the screen with the
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: big orange beak that's your tufted puff.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: There's one that quacks there up high.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: A lot of birds out there. So the first first
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: two we see, you know, one with the white face mask,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: one with the black face mask. Every other one we
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: saw had white face masks just like this one. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: so we go up to a volunteer who volunteer there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: What are the.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Volunteering about right now? Is the Great Puffin Watch. There's
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: a three day period in July where you go to
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: in the Great Puffin Watch and they'll be like, you know,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: they come back every year in the monogamous and they
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: feed their baby volunteering about to give you information and
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: also be like, don't touch that starfish and like, you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: step back, things like.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: That, are you?
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: Are you a burder and throughout life?
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Not just something I'll dabbled in here and there, but
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: we want to see the tough.
• 20:18
  Speaker 5: Was there a bunch of hardcore burders with their giant
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: cameras there?
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you were a hardcore burder, you wouldn't
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: be there during the Great.
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: Puffin Watch because that's lame.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's just like keeping too much going on.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: So we go up to one of these volunteers who's
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: there to you know, answer all your questions. We're like,
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: why why did the one have black face mask? We
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: didn't see any other ones like that? And they're like
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: you saw that one. We're like yeah, it was like
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: on this side of the rock. They're like, well, two
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: weeks ago one during a different puffin count at this rock,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: one of the volunteers there also spotted one with a
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: black face mask, and that's not normal. In my head,
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: it was like, oh, that's the female. The white face
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: mask is the male. And she's like I can't remember
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: what they called it, but it's a thing where they're
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: like all black and I was like melanistic and You're like, yes, melanistic.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: So we saw it.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Sounds like they need to.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Volunteer. Yeah, so we saw the rare tufted puffin that
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: was melanistic on Haystack Rock and just real tickled. Congratulations,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: it's not like one of the rarest animals that I
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: feel like we've collected is the melanistic puffin. When you
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: google melanistic tufted puffin, there's no results either. So this
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: is not like a thing that is happening often in
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: this population. So did you I did not because we
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: didn't know it was special at the time, so I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: didn't take a picture. It was the first two we
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: saw was the ir regular puffin and the melanistic one.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: So we're thrilled about that. I'm gonna contact them again
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: and be like, what, what new information you got? Do
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: we know anything about this this melanistic tufted puffin or not?
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: So that is going to make me a burger Now,
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I've collected this one, so like, therefore
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I should be a burger.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. He came. If you're like a space alien and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you show up in America or the world, and then
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the first guy you're running and it was like whole
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: cogan yeah, or.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: You huh, you catch ant right off the.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: Rib, that's right.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: So we collected rare tufted puffin. That was highlight number one.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Highlight number two was I got to catch North America's
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: biggest freshwater fish, which is the white sturgeon.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Ohamn.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And this is while my wife was shopping. I went
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: fishing with a guy I met out there and caught
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: two of the white sturgeon. Yes. So this is also
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: the best time of year to be doing that because
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: they'll be up in shallows. Like we caught three white
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: sturgeon that day, and we caught them in four feet
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: of water and twenty feet of water, so just a
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: variety four feet of water. That one was an aerial sturgeon.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: He came up right away, whole body out of the water.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And then just like the whole day, about every half
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: hour you'd see a surgeon come out of the water.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: Don't know what they're doing. I don't think anybody has
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: a good idea.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: They just free jump.
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they do free jump, and it's like you see
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: a variety of movie that they do. Sometimes they'll come
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: out like a whale where they like you know, they
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: fully breach and then they land on their side. Other
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: times it'd be like a dolphin. Other times they just
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: roll on the surface like you'd see a paddlefish or
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: a carpdew. So just like a lot of a lot
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: of sturgeon being seen.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Did the guide like you did.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: He like me? Yeah?
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: I think I think he liked me. I met him
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: last year at his food truck that he owned, it's
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: called Pacific Route, and he's like, hey, I also no
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: he serves donuts.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: He's like, so you're snacking on a donut and he says, hey,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know aproposa nothing.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a sturgeon guide.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: He's a steelhead and trout guide. They see sort of
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: dabbles in on the side, but he's like, hey, if
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: you ever want to come out fish and let me know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, we don't offer that if you don't
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: mean it, because yeah, I will do it. I would
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: love to catch one of these bucket list fish.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: How heavy would you say? The biggest one was.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Six and a half feet long, and I think googling
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: that was like, I don't know, one hundred and thirty
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: to one hundred and sixty pounds somewhere in there cut bait,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: uncut bait. Yeah, it's very familiar if you catfish, right,
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: it's just like using like a seven inch frozen anchovy.
• 24:07
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it would just be a smorty sport of bait
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: on there. You do an anchovy plus two earthworms plus
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: the sand shrimp. And they were just trolling the bottom
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: looking looking for dead stuff, and you're you're you're anchored up,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: anchored up. Yep, it's just soaking lead on the bottom. Yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: just very familiar if you're gonna go catch a catfish.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: We're in the content.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, that thing's just swimming away. It's
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: not like you get like a nibble.
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: You do get a nibble. Yeah, it's it's that part,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: you know. It's kind of like watching a bobber go down,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: do that bobber. But it's just like small rod ticks
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: and then sometimes they about take it out of your
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: your rod hole.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Do they circle hook them or jay hook them?
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: It is a barblous hook. It's not a circle hook,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: but it's a barbleous jay hook, which I'm surprised you
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: can like fight them as good as you It's a
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: real thrashing uh, and it holds on the whole time.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: It seems like if you set the hook in one,
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: they're just not coming off.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: How many times that fish been caught?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I would bet often, Often I would I would guess,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and I would ask the guy I was with. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: was like, what's that boat doing. What's that boat doing?
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: What's that boat doing?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They love that kind of stuff they do.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, well, I'm also interested. I'm like, selfishly
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: want to know, but I'm like, what's that fishing boat doing?
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: The answer was always catching sturgeon, So I imagine it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: quite common.
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: There is no salmon run going on at the time, not.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: Yet, you'd have to be out in the ocean. As
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: far as bycatch, I was like, what kind of bycatch
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: do you get? And it shocked me because the answer
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: is like nothing, never have any bycatch besides the occasional
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: channel catfish. Really yeah, Like, well, what's he doing out there?
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Huh yeah, being a channel catfish? Yeah.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: So I saw the melanistic puffin and got to catch
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: the continent's biggest freshwater fish. Oh Man weekend for him
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: good week, and my wife got to shot.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: It's great. Everybody wins ont of your news. A lot
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: of guys rolled in about last episode telling saying that
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: don't come on a lot of guys saying that calin
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that don't is heroin. So if you say a dope smoker,
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: you mean a that's not true.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: It kind of it kind of is these.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I don't care about these days. Okay, I don't care
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: about these. I don't care where you go and search up.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I grew up knowing they're dope smokers. I don't care
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: where he goes search up. You're like dope and weeders
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: like it's synonymus their synonyms. That's all I'll point out.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Smoking the stuff isn't even that common anymore.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: No, you're like a dope eater. Yeah, dope eater.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: But guys that were acting like they didn't that dope
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: smoking one. It's like an old man joke to even
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: call it dope smoking. But back, you know, whatever time ago,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: whatever time ago, twenty years ago or whatever, that's it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: If you go look at the Internet and go look
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: at any definition dope, a dope smoker is one can
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: be a weed smoker. Now, it's not as accurate as
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: saying a marijuana smoker, but it puts you in the
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: right ballpark.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: You'll get pushed back on the whole marijuana thing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I don't care.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Listen, of all the groups to offend, that's your least
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: worried about. No, No, I'm not like that. Worry about
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: many of them that you get like, oh the whatever,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: you know, the catch release guys are mad, the high
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: fence guys are mad.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: The dope smokers are mad.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Like okay, let's.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: Get back to That's the thing about the dope smokers
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: is they don't get mad.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: They do apparently they came unless these weren't dope smokers. Yeah.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: These another big correction, huge correction that Nate Mason needs
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to make.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: In your in our news, your news.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Talking about Michigan ELK, a number of alert listeners or viewers,
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: i should say, pointed out that there was no blue
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: dots on that Rocky Mountain ELK Foundation map in the
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: state of Michigan, and mult of many people confirmed that
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: there are probably seven hundred ELK in the state of Michigan.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: We applied every years as a kid.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Is just a real old map or they is just
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: I don't I couldn't figure it out. I can I
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: can't get hold of anyone in arm YEF. But uh, yeah,
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: they've been there for a long time, long time, long time.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: A huge mistake on your big time current distribution. Michigan's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: got him. My old man used to bow hunt white
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: tails up in that neck of the woods. And uh,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: it's kind of like if you were to if you
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: make a Michigan mat with your hand and you go
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: to your it's the elk are kind of between the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: first and second knuckle on your middle finger. That might
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: not be totally act. That's pretty good. They're around that ballpark, yep.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: He used to hunt white tails up there and do
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: nothing but sitting in his tree stand taking photos. Elk. Huh.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: It's like you're sitting around drowning and elk hoping a
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: white tail comes by.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Do you ever know anybody who killed one? Theyre Nope.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Never you know anybody who drew one?
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: Nope, do not. It's a slim draw.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Those elk are how I learned about the mud vein thing. Oh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: where I had a client in Colorado who had had
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: a friend who had gotten a tag killed an elk,
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: and then when the guide was clean gutting it, said hey,
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: do you want the mud veins? And the guy was
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: like mud veins, like off a crayfish. Yeah, off a crayfish.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: The mud vein like the little ship tube ye, talking.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: About a tender loin.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but he's using the terminology yeah yeah, yeah,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: as though it's like a poop tube. Yeah.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: And the guy cut out the tenderloins and said he
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: was going to feed the mud veins to his dog.
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: Because they're stinky and gross.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Oh last night, man, I had some trim. I was like,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: trim and a heart, you know that, all that fat
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and jump. So I had that in a bowl to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: give my dog and then like, my dog was at
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: your house, so I put it in the freezer. Then
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I got it back out and it sat a lot longer,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and I pulled it out last night. It was pretty rotten.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: My wife's like, oh my god, don't give that to
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: the dog. I'm like, that dog don't care. So I
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: gave her to the dog, and that dog kidding. That
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: dog hadn't finished ten seconds.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Right up on the carpet.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's no way it's related to the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: rot on that thing. There has to be coincidence.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: How did you take that.
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: Something to date yesterday?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: It's like, there's no way that did it poor tracker.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: And I'm really surprised that she wouldn't take a few
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: hours off and just go hang out the spot.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: All right, out to the news, the actual news, and
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Spencer's going to start out with a roundup of Spencer stories.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just want to I think it's something
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: I'll do in the future. You like, cover something, you
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: reach out for quotes they don't come in in time
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: or film. It happens like the day we put out
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: the podcast. So I had three stories I want to
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: circle back to. First. One is the West Virginia Golden
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: trout update. If you don't remember, an angler set the
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: new state record for Palomino trout with a twenty eight
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: inch twelve pound fish was caught on the south bend
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: of the Potomac River. Now, as I talked about that day,
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: it's likely the fish was stocked there a few days
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: prior by the West Virginia DNR. But I wanted to
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: hear them say it, so I reached out to them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: It looks like a stocker, don't it rony.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: This or you already here for this episode.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: So David Wellman, the assistant chief of Fish Management for
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: the DNR, he got back to.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Heought, we can't leave Gianni's comment, Hang it, I didn't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: know this. Brody said that what you're seeing is wrong
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: with its tail? Is it hanging in its its tail
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: on its tank.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: So David Wellman, the assistant chief of Fish Management for
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the DNR, he got back to me and here's what
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: he said, quote that fish was stocked this year as
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: most West Virginia streams do not hold up for trout
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: due to the warm tempts during the summer and fall.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: So confirmed the DNR stocked a state record that was
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: caught just a few days later. So we already knew that,
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: but they didn't say it. They wouldn't come out and
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: directly say it. And so now somebody did. And now
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm just like extra amused by the whole thing, Like, yeah,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: it's a state record that was living in a raceway,
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: you know, seventy two.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: I wonder if the guy grabs that thing to stock it.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I'm not trying a dog on it
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: too much like I had a few times when I
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: caught him not knowing that there had been a stocking recently.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: One time it was on I was angling myself and
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: just under happened to be fishing, had a put in
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: by a bridge and they had literally dumped the fish
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: off the bridge, and all of a sudden, yank in
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: this I don't know, two foot plus rainbow, and I'm like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: oh my gosh, you know, biggest fish off seen all summer.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And then another time, you know our dear friend Lindsay Meyer.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, she caught the biggest shout I ever guided
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: anyone too, I don't know, Yeah, I mean thirty inches
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: of miss a giant And do you.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Think that one just came off a truck?
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they just don't. Like you can't fish for ten years,
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: I'm on the same river, like not not know somebody
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: that catches a fish like that, and then all of
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: a sudden one day there's like ten of them in
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: at one pool.
• 33:08
  Speaker 5: The funny thing is a few days after, be honest
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: with my client, she caught it. A few days later,
• 33:14
  Speaker 5: Alvin Doze client got the same damn fish on the
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: same bridge.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Huh oh there you go anyway.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Update number two this is for the Iowa forty four
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars. Wileye, there was a fishing contest held by
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the Iowa Great Lakes Area Chamber of Commerce. Anglers had
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: two dates to catch a tagged wileye in Okoboji to
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: win the forty four thousand dollars grand prize. Multiple anglers
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: tried to claim the money, but both were rejected. First
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: angler caught a fish that was tagged in twenty twenty five,
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: so that didn't count. The other angler he brought in
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: a fish that was tagged in twenty twenty six, but
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: it was dead, so that made it ineligible. We have
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: an update. The contest carries on after Walley weekendend. It
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: goes for the rest of this summer, but the prize
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: money is significantly reduced. Two weeks after it ended, Ken
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: Williams caught himself one of those lucky wileye and he
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: won six thousand dollars for it, so at least some
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: money got handed out. Anglers have until August thirty first
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: to claim the last two cash prizes of the extended contest.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Which of those guys is the guy who's it is.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: The dude with the second from the left, the guy
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: on the far left. He's the one in the video
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: we watched who had to break the news that the
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: dead walleye came in also some more news from the
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: same body of water. Westlake Okoboji just had their first
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: paddlefish caught since nineteen nineteen. It was captured in net
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: by biologists just a couple of weeks ago. The fish
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: was once common in that area, but it disappeared after
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: a bunch of dams were put in place. The Iowa
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: DNR started a paddlefish stocking program a few years ago.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: This is the first one that they've recaptured. They weighed
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: twelve pounds, measured twenty eight inches from the eye to
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: the fork in the tail. And here's a look at
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: one of the last paddlefish that was ever caught in
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: that lake. Weighed one hundred and eighty five pounds and
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: it was speared by an ice angler. Go the guy
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: put two spears in it. He couldn't get out of
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: the hole himself, so he ran up to shore, got
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: one of his buddies named Charlie, and then Charlie came
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: to help him drag it out of the way.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: A serious looking man. Right there it is, I got
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: beat Brody's assound.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: Came out of Okoboji, one of the final paddlefish to
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: ever be caught there.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: That's a serious looking man. I don't want a hat
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: It's a good hat. He looks like a dude who
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: would spear paddlefish. Yeah, one of the only paddles. Yeah,
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: that's been speared through the ice in North America. I'm sure,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: all right. Last update or.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: If he was drunk on beer when it happened, you
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: have to be he was.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: He was in fifty foot of water. Uh, and he
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: speared in fifteen feet below him, which is a heck
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: of a shot with a spear.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what the story said from nineteen nineteen that
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: it was.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: There was no way that they got confused over time.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: No a chance. That's totally legit, all right. Last update
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: is the Ohio Bigfoot update. If you don't remember, in
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: a span and a five days span back in March,
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: there were seven bigfoot sightings around Portage County. Four of
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: those happened in the exact same day. I reached out
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: to some Sasquatch experts for their take on this rash
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: of sightings. Here's what they told me. First one was
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Jeremiah Byron via the Bigfoot Society. He said that the
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: weather was unseasonably warm that week, which resulted in bigfoots
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: being more active. Plus people were being more active, so
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: it just resulted they were encountering each other more often,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: with good weather for humans with good weather for bigfoots.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: It was it was a warm week in March where
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: they were just bumping into each other out in the
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: woods there. That's what Jeremiah said. Cliff Barrickman from the
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: big from the North American Bigfoot Center. I asked Cliff
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: if there's a chance that the bigfoots were migrating or
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: they were rutting or responding to a certain moon phase,
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: and he said, quote, that is nonsense and pretty sensationalized.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: So he did not like that theory of mine. There's
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: still Cliff says he's not convinced that the reports were
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: properly vetted.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Oh.
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: He noted that some of the witnesses weren't interviewed until
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: days after the sightings. That's bad procedure from his perspective.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: He said. The sightings were being gathered by bigfootmaps dot Com. However,
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: the Bigfoot Field Researchers organization, which Cliff told me is
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: the most reliable source for Bigfoot sightings, did not have
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: an uptick in sightings that week. So to recap bigfootmaps
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: dot Com had the bunch of had you know, the
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: report of increase in sightings, but Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: did not.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: So Bigfoot Maps is kind of like they're like.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: Chumps, they are. So I reached out to the Bigfoot
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: Field Researchers Organization. The scare take yet. So Matt Moneymakers
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: who I talked to. He's one of the founding members
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: of the Bigfoot Great Researchers organization. Matt said that they
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: sent an investigator to interview the very first witness in
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: this string of sightings, and he told me that this
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: investigator is someone who tends to give the benefit of
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: the doubt to people, and the investigator concluded that this
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: was not a legitimate sighting by that first witness. The
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: witness he interviewed was a fifteen year old boy who
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: is an aspiring cryptozoologist who just started his own local
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: Bigfoot group. And so the investigator said, you know, he's
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: maybe doing this to get himself some street.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like like a fox garden the henhouse. That's
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: not the right thing. Uh, but that's a thing, what
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: would it be. It's not the fox garden, the henhouse.
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's the bigfoot person seeing a bigfoot.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like that.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Matt's team, Matt's team, he's tested bigfootmap dot com before
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: he sent them obviously fake reports to see what would
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: happen from their experience. Those reports get published within a
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: few hours with no follow up questions. One time they
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: even submitted like a joke name and the email address
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: was bigfoot maps own email address, and it still got reported,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: Like it's still went up as.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So they're like totally like just phoning it in. Yeah.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So there's like there's a there's a rivalry.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: There is, Yes, and and Matt was very hot about
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: this subject. Now, Matt did tell me that bigfoot do
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: live in northeast Ohio. It's actually one of the hot
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: spots on the continent. Matt had his very first face
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: to face encounter there back in nineteen ninety four. He
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: saw two bigfoots at once. One of them got to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: within fifteen feet and it growled at him until I
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: left the area.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: And is close to down.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: So, despite despite Matt being a skeptic of the reports
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: in Portage County back in March. No, he did tell
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: me that their organization has gotten some credible reports from
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: around the Ohio River in Jefferson County. So if you're
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: in the area and want to find a Bigfoot, he
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: recommends starting in Jefferson County, not Portage County, because the
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Ritage County folks are just a hoax.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Big that man, that's a great report.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for that, Spencer.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: You're welcome moving from that area down to Madison, Alabama,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: where one of our you know the term citizens scientists,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: a citizen journalist, apprizes of this. But we got a tip,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: We had a tip.
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: They want to remain anonymous. Oh they do, yeah, because of.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: The Yeah, it's there's death threats flying.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a Canada goose issue. That's good,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: that's got the FBI. FBI is involved on it now.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: So a citizen tipped us off for this story, but
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: he wants to stay out of it because all the
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: death threats getting thrown around down here Alabama. Basically, here's
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: how it goes. You got two large communities in the Madison,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Alabama area. Each of them is struggling with what they
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: perceive to be.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: A goose problem.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: They certain members of each of these communities perceive to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: be suffering from over populated geese. Some say that the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: goose crisis is so acute that pets are dying. Pets
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: are dying. Now, pets always die in any community. There's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a pet dying somewhere, you follow me. But these pet
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: deaths are attributed to these geese.
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: To fecal matter or something.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: It was attacks.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: I wish they have.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Seven the geese. There's so many geese. People are saying
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that these geese are spreading avian influenza, and now seventy
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: five percent of the local swans are dead from these geese.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: They say in their pond, this is an hoa pond.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: It's a private hoa pond. One of these places, the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: one I'm going to focus on, is a private hoa pond.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: They're even saying that there was a fish die off
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: in the pond related to all the nutrient loading from
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: goose ship. Okay, so these hoas are suffering from geese.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: But this is a tale of two hoas. One takes
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: takes a draconian approach, and they call in the FEDS
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: who come in and round up and execute.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Euthanize coal.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: What have you?
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Five hundred geese.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Which to point is not that's something that happens with
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: geese around the country.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Sure, a lot of geese. Yeah, I'm not even telling
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you what I think about the whole thing.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: How do they do it?
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Don't know, not been released. They trapped them. Some people
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: are saying they gassed them. That makes sense to me,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't know what they did to them, and
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they went to a food bank.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: The other HOA they didn't use a punk gun, They
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: did not put them. The other HOA is exploring other options.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: The HOA that did the death dealing. Those HOA members
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: are now being subject to death threats, bad death threats.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: You got the Madison subdivision, you got the Heritage Plantation subdivision,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: just based off those names. Who do you think did
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the dude?
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: When you used to read this, I thought you were
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: going to say Madison, Wisconsin, and then you said Alabama.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: I wonder if these two subdivisions have Alabama partisan partisan
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: voting differences.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Heritage Plantation chose to euthanize Madison, Alabama chose to seek
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: other alternatives. The Facebook comments page is a great representation
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: just of American sentiment. I think this strikes me about
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: going through the Facebook comments on this news source are
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: how little people will do to find out if what
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: they're saying makes sense before they put it down. So
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: here you have people saying they're federally protected. Here you
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: have people saying they're a non native invasive. You have
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: all manner of opinions, most of which could be solved
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: with a very quick Internet search. One guy had an
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: interesting observation where he said Canadian geese are the Kudzoo
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: of birds. Another guy named Glenny says, without geese on
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a pond, now follow this, without geese on a pond,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: cotton mouth snake population infestation increase on the way. Snakes
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: will be hanging in the shrubs. Even snakes love sunning
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: out of concrete walks. They serve as hot rocks to
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: all snakes crawling up in the cars, garage, even inside
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: those hoa houses. Before it's over. Without no geese, that's
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: why farms have geese on their ponds. YEP. Venomous steak
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: snake infestation prevention. Another guy, just one of the only
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: people that was truly really trying to be helpful was
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: a guy that rode in and said, why hasn't anyone
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: tried putting an Egyptian duck in there? He will run
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: off any other bird trying to stay there by himself.
• 46:04
  Speaker 5: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: He'll chase people and dogs too, but you'll have no geese.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: And he proves that it works because he says that
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: they did that at Magnolia Springs no geese.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: I here's I can't believe.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: It came down to execute And a lot of the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: other people had dumb stuff to say, like why don't
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: they move them to a sanctuary?
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: It's like what sanctuary?
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Or people like why don't they go put them on
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: the river, But well, the problem is they have wings
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and they just kind of go like they just kind
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: of go back where they want to be.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: But I really can't.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, how would it be that a couple of dogs.
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: Well, they have those dogs that are trained to haze them.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, use them.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: If one thing geese hunters know how to do, like East,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: the one thing goose hunters know how to do is
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: make it the geese don't come back to a spot.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It's like, you can say a lot of bad things
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: about hunting about tay. One thing, if there's geese in
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: a spot and you hunt them real heavy, those geese
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: don't come back, Well, it turns.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Them off to the spot.
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: To be fair, I think this is a problem that's
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: happening in suburban and urban areas all over the country
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: with Canada geese.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: It just seems I don't know. I'm not there.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: If I was living in that hoa, I would have said,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: come on, are we honestly gonna have the government come
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: out and trap and gas five hundred geese? We can't
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: figure out a way to see ourselves through this or
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: wait till they move on, or get someone's dog that
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: likes to chase geese, or have some dude shoot them.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Are we really going to call in the federal government?
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: Dude? People were getting ill too. You missed that in
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: the email. People were getting ill.
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know people I got. I got a
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: cold the other day. I don't know. Am I blaming
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: a goose on it? Well?
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know this whole thing that we're
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: reporting on it coming off of this one email, isn't it?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to apply some healthy skepticism to the
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: whole thing. That's it.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Uh. I just did a quick Google search about the
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: Egyptian geese.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: Is he Is he a bad mofo? Yeah?
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: They are bad.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: Oh I would mess with him, Yeah, very very fierce,
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: and they will run off all other birds.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Or if they tried that, I know they didn't try that.
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: No mad magnolia springs they did and it worked.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: It just seems in all seriousness and all seriousness, it
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: just feels to me it's very dramatic. It feels very
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: dramatic to call in the federal government to trap and
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: euthanize geese because you have a goose problem on a pond.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: It just feels extreme.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to find ways to justify it. Maybe maybe
• 48:52
  Speaker 5: there was like avian flu concern that they.
• 48:56
  Speaker 4: It just I'm saying.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: Air shows up in my neighborhood. I always like to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: tell people, just don't tattletale on the bear. Don't tattletale
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: on the bear. He'll be fine, he'll do something different tomorrow.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: But what if there's like forty bears in your neighborhood.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Don't tattletale on them either. Okay, just let.
• 49:16
  Speaker 5: Just just walk through that bear.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: We interviewed a town on media radio who was dealing
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: with a goose problem at their local parks, and they
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: started using a goosinator. It's called and it's like a
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: shotgun now it should be. It's like a big orange
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: floating RCA car that's got teeth and eyes painted on it,
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: and they drive that thing like through the flock of
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: geese and they just do it enough to the point
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: where they don't want to come back.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Sure, there's not want to come back somewhere.
• 49:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you could pay some little little boys to hay someone.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: If you were every day sent a guy down there
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: and shot a handful of geese's aren't coming back, dude,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Ask any duck hunter over to you, Jannis.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: You know they might get threats for shooting the geese too.
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: Let's go across the pond. Speaking of ponds, big pond
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: on the other side of the Big Pond. According to
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: an article in The Telegraph, which is a UK based
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: news service, Wimbledon is now serving venison to lower carbon
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: emissions by not serving beef. I know, kind of takes
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: the wind out of sales of that whole article, doesn't it,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Because we're like, oh right, we're gonna get to celebrate
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: some wild game being eaten, but it's not really about that.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: They could lower them even more by.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Eating uh.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: Poultry.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: It turns out, oh, is that right?
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know wild poultry.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: If that's the objective.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: So, in an effort to reach net zero carbon emissions
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: by twenty thirty, they've swapped beef for venison. How are
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: they measuring these? The emissions and the ratings? They got
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: a rating system developed by a company called food Steps.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: Food Steps helps food producers and food purveyors figure out
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: what their carbon footprint is and how to reduce it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: They have a scoring system that rates of foods impact.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: A is low, F is high on average beef dish
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: scores in F venison scores A c The moves criticized
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: by beef.
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: Farmer doest thing I've ever heard. If it's wild venison,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: which there it could be, how is it? How is it?
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: What are they talking about?
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: This venison now came from behind defence?
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: And what do you mean? What are they talking about?
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: I thought they're saying wild venison isn't an a wild
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: venson's an a I.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: Think they're considering like because there's like I'll tell you
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: a couple of things that that you know that thought
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: worth mentioning they're not wimbled. Is not like the first
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: sort of event space to do this over there, It's
• 51:53
  Speaker 5: become popular, so a bunch of England's premier soccer and
• 51:57
  Speaker 5: rugby stadiums have also switched over to Venison.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: The comments at the end of this article were interesting.
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Most of the folks calling out windeled Wimbledon for virtue
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: signaling and not calling out the true source of carbon
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: emissions associated with Wimbledon, which you can imagine is like
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: the airplane travel that has to occur for everybody to
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: get there to enjoy the sporting event, right, like if
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: you really gave a ship, you just probably wouldn't do
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: it or tell people to stay at home and watch it. Right,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: But it's a it's a money making thing.
• 52:31
  Speaker 8: So speaking of wild deer, hardly wild, no, these particular
• 52:40
  Speaker 8: ones now all over England, Scotland.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: They have a lot of deer. There's there's a there's
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: a bunch of different species, but these particulars and they
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: they are cold. They are hunted all over these countries
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: and they there with their system.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: They can be sold.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: Wild game can be sold, right, these particular ones are
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: being served at Wimbledon come from Richmond Park and Bushy Park,
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: which are suburban London parks, big places like a thousand
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: acres I think one and one was two thousand acres.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: But they both have perimeter fencing or walls around them.
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: So they do have like open passageways because they're opened
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day and so you know, cars
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: can get in and out and people can get in
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: and out, so these deer aren't completely enclosed. But it's,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: like I said, hardly wild. So there's a number of
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: deer in there. Every year there's a coal they take
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: out whatever percentage it is and then it's sold to
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: a like a wholesaler that they can then you know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: sell it on to the caterer that's going to serve
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: and they sold to Sol says, Yeah, it's very very
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: manicure like. Even in these parks, there's more fencing and
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: enclosures to basically keep those deer from eating the shrubbery
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: and the flowers and all the stuff that they have
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: planted over there. What else did I have about that? Yeah,
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: six deer species in England. Only two of them are native,
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: which are the red and the road deer. Four non natives,
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Fallo Seka, munk jack, and Chinese water deer. Yeah, so
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They're trying to do it to be cool.
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: Do you know what dishes they're serving in?
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: No, I looked up for a little menu. There was
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: a picture of one.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: One was tartar and I forget what the other one wasn't.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Remember, Yeah, there was one that had like a piece
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: of eggplant or a zucchini next to it with a
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: little something on top. I mean, everybody's liking it. It's
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: it's great. I don't know, I'm happy that they're that
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: they're doing it. I mean, why not. I just think
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: it's like, I think the reasoning behind it is a
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: little bit goofy because when you if you really want
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: to delve into the whole, like what's better for you?
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Or like what has not better for you? What's better
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: for what has less carbon emissions?
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Like is the is the wild game actually better? Well,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: turns out like if you basically hunt it very close
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: or you call it very close to where you're going,
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: where you're where, it's where the meat is going to
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: end up. And again they have like they are taking
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: in all this data about like you know, how much
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: water it takes for one animal to drink, and how
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: much sunlight it's absorbing, and how much methane each producing.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Because wild game can't be zero either or an a
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: as you said, because it does produce methane the same
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: way that a cow does. Right, So wild game like
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: to really be the best that it can be, it
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: has to be hunted efficiently and not far from where
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: you live. So if you like to fly to Wisconsin
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: and kill a couple of a deer and then fly
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: back to Montana and eat it, it's the same thing
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: as buying beef from the store.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Probably is the dude that shoots a deer out of
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: his window of his house, Yes, people might look down
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: on them, but for carbon footprint. The guy that shoots
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: it out of his window and then drags it back
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: into his house and eats it, that's a low carbon dude.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: You made some notes too about like in how in
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: the States, if we're going to do it, it had
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: to be farm raised venison, right well, farm raised venison
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: requires more resources than than beef.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: They have no moral high ground, Yep. They can't even
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: claim that.
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: The funny thing is is this is coming from like
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: British newspapers, which like are the most anti hunting newspapers
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: in the world, Like they have like every day.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: It's like those dudes are hot of touch with nature.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it just goes to show you their nature. I
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: mean it's like what I described in this park right,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: like that's their version of nature.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: Walked around and they've had no nature for so long
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: they can't they can't even talk about it without getting crazy. Yeah.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Was there anything on that list that was an A
• 57:00
  Speaker 6: that's like tasty?
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: I saw one thing that said like that, the like
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: the lowest carbon emission plate that you could eat was A.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: It was like A. It was pea soup and I
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: forget what else it had in it. It might have been
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: like broccoli and pea souper or something was like the
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: most you know.
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: Uh, I'll thrown in your own guard.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Probably.
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: The Wimbledon chef also said it was a nutritional decision, sure,
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: saying that the meat is leaner, more protein rich. So
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: that was part of their calculus as well.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: Is that what Spencer says to blow you off?
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: I think, sure, No, no, no, no, it's not.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: I can't.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: I'm going to tell you guys know it's the way
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: he says, sure, sure.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Sure, sure sure, It's like him going whatever whatever, should we.
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: Should we come back to America and go to Texas.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, San Antonio, this boils my blood.
• 58:02
  Speaker 5: Oh god, this is not like.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: This boils the kind of thing you don't.
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: You don't expect to hear this kind of stuff coming
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: out of Texas.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: No, sometimes Texas will let you down country.
• 58:14
  Speaker 5: So developers, developers in Texas are shutting down the historic
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: San Antonio Target Hunting and Fishing Club. It's one of
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Texas's oldest sporting clubs, founded in nineteen fifty five, and
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: they need to permanently end their outdoor shooting after settling
• 58:37
  Speaker 5: a lawsuit with a neighboring landowner. That landowner happens to
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: be a developer, a real estate development given to Fly
• 58:46
  Speaker 5: given to Fly Li abiliated with Mosaic Land Development. So
• 58:50
  Speaker 5: the next door to the shooting ranger's a forty acre
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: undeveloped track tracked and the lawsuit. They filed a lawsuit
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: in late twenty twenty four basically saying that the shooting
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: range is causing all kinds of problems and it's causing
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: cow sales to collapse, and they're saying straight bullets, buckshot
• 59:11
  Speaker 5: and bird shot regularly crossed onto their property. Specifically included
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: claims that projectiles were being found on the neighboring property and.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Well the projectiles also were trespassing property. What like, look
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: me in the eye and tell me the last time
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you found not a casing a bullet, the last time
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: you found a stray bullet.
• 59:37
  Speaker 5: I'll tell you where at a shooting range, Like where, well, yeah,
• 59:43
  Speaker 5: like backstops like you know not. Yeah, you're not going
• 59:46
  Speaker 5: to like walk around be like, well there's a bullet
• 59:48
  Speaker 5: raring on the ground.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: Nate pointed out if you're on like an old Civil
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: war battlefield, that can happen. Yeah, but they generally, like
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: conical projectiles aren't just laying.
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they go Like, so there's that. There's also they're
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: also saying the club operated like a drinking fraternity and
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: failed to at it we adequately control their shooting activities,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: So unsafe environment, it's like bad for home sales. The developer,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 5: one of the developers, blake Yantis, said we had no
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: problem with them being there doing what they did, but
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: we had a real problem with them shooting bullets into
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: our property. So it's like in the gun club of
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: course denies all the allegations. Seventy years there was no
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: evidence anyone you know, was injured, no accidents, and they're
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 5: saying that the allegations were greatly exaggerated. So it's it's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 5: like a he said sheet that said. Thing kind of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 5: going on. So the courts takeover. They issue a temporary
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: restraining order. In December of twenty four, all shooting activities
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: get halted, and that continued like this thing was going
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: to trial. Trial was scheduled for May of twenty twenty six.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 5: Just last month it was canceled because the settlement was
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: reached as this was going on. There was also a
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: nearby school that briefly school in daycare, that briefly joined
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: the lawsuit. They got out of this thing once the settlement,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 5: you know, came down. The unusual thing about this settlement
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: is that the club's going to pay eight hundred thousand
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: dollars to who, to the developer. They say, it's not
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 5: an admission of guilt, it's just like a business decision
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: so that they could move on with life.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Really getting that money.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know, maybe club dues I
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 5: have no idea. The more unusual thing is part of
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 5: the settlement was a deed restriction was placed on the
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: club's property, which permanently prohibits outdoor firearm use even if
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: ownership changed. So like it's not like they're not going
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: to be able to ever shoot outdoors there again unless
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: this deed restriction some gets modified. So kind of kind
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: of a bummer. I mean, I can't say if the
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: allegations are true of like the drinking fraternity and things
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: like that, but it's like it's an example of like nationally,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: you know, develop development versus existing land use, and and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: something that's happening around the country with other shooting ranges
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: kind of versus expanding residential development and and.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because this dude he's he buys forty acres, Yeah,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: and his intention is to put in hundreds of new homes,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: but he can't put in all those new homes if
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: these if these guys are shooting at the shooting range.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Right, someone comes to look at a lot, boom boom boom.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: People are like, eh, you.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, you know, like being like Kyle's not condos.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, yep, exactly. And so there's kind
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: of this broader issue that that is described as the
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: legal easee is coming to nuisance, coming to the nuisance.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: So for example, a shooting range or a farm or
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: a racetracker, an airport does its thing for decades. Then
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: a developer comes in wants to build a new neighborhood
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: right next door to this place, and this is where
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: the problems start.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: Ye, it's coming to a nuisance.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, coming to the nuisance. So some states have range
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: protection laws to shield established shooting facilities from these kinds
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: of things, but they don't apply if the plaintiff can
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 5: demonstrate like a genuine public safety hazard. So that's what
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: happened here. But like as an example, like elsewhere around
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: the country, who thought that Madison, Alabama would be in
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: the news twice in one day. I thought, sure, the
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: difference medicine, But Madison County shooting range in Alabama. Similar
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: situation going on. It's about projectiles leaving the property. Clearcreek
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: gun Club in California. This one's a little different. The
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: people that are going after this gun club are using
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: a different strategy, which is permitting an environmental compliance rather
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: than the shooting activity itself. But it demonstrates how local
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: governments are like increasingly regulating ranges and however they can
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: other places Michigan, Colorado, there's there's litigation like this going
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: on all over the country. So it's something to keep.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: An eye on. God this Madison County, Alabama places hot yep,
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: hot on news like that's like Washington, DC over.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: There, yep, hotbed.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: I can't believe the settlement was eight hundred thousand, because
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: how badly did they think they were going to get
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: it handed to them in court? If that was the
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: number that they're I don't know, I mean, not even
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: doing that.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: I guess that, you know, the developer must have demonstrated
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: this is my guess, must have demonstrated like loss of
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: sales a certain dollars.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: But they were already there shooting.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, like what's going on. They're saying
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: that it caused them to lose sales, so they demonstrated
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: a financial loss, is my guess.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: I thought the judge was said, you got to give
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: the gun guys eight hundred thousand.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Dollars for the club, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: I feel like I could picture that, especially in Alabama.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: In Texas, Texas, I thought higher than Texas.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. Texas is going to hell in
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: a hand basket.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: So join a jump gun club like way out in
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 5: the country.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to belong to a gun club that
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: was in a like a somewhat populated era area, and man,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: that was the strictest gun club I've ever been in.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: And they had those you ever see those overhead things.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: You couldn't launch one if you wanted to, you were
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: shooting through a tunnel because they put these they put
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: these overhead archway like these overhead barriers every whatever ten yards.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: Ye, so bullets can't.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like there's like picture like big rectangular concrete
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: slabs sitting on goalposts and if you want to just
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: just if you're just a freak and wanted to send
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: one off into the end of the land, you could
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: have done it. Yeah.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I but I do feel like those big
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 5: like indoor ranges are also becoming more popular. Like my
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: buddy in Denver, he shoots, you know, his deer rifle
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: at an indoor range. I've been there a couple of times.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: Pretty sweet sounds like, And I think, yeah, it is
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: kind we lost in Boman.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that there's one out on jack Crabit
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: that just became a law enforcement range instead.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: But that may be the way things, the direction things
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 5: go because of things like this.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 6: You ever slung an arrow in a suburban environment?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Many many?
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: My kid's buddy shot up onto the neighbor's place.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you the story.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you it was more of a social experiment
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: than anything.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: I put one over one eighty five in Georgia and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 6: just was waiting a big highway and was just waiting
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 6: for the news that night.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it hard to tell what's going on the other
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: side of the highway.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: Was just some driver just wa Yeah, Kylets are eating
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 7: iguanas in Florida, Oh buddy, like crazy surprising?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: Yes, I you know, Spencer, you ate a coyote. Would
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 6: you imagine it if you that kyote was predating on iguanas?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: How to impact the taste fatten on iguanas?
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: I bet, I bet somebody would tell me that iguana
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: tastes like chicken, like porkadjacon, So I can't imagine and
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 4: be that much worse than whatever is you know usually
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: in their.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: Diet iguana finished kyote.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, probably be better than the coyote.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 6: Oh, so a study published in the journal Journal of
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 6: Urban Ecology this year's covering coyote diet in a Floridian
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: urban area. Quick history on the coyotes in Florida. They
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: they weren't there at the time of European contact. There's
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: there's twelve thousand year old fossils and whatnot, but historically
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: in recent history they haven't. They haven't been there. A
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: lot of this is because the red wolf population that
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: occupied that niche. But as that population declined and was
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: extrapated from regions of Florida, they moved back in, especially
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 6: as suburban sprawl increased. They do really well in suburban
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: areas and and and their range has increased. Concurrently, iguanas
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: have also spread. They were introduced to Florida in the
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: nineteen sixties via the exotic pet trade and cargo ships,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: kind of your typical introduction scheme. But nineteen sixty four
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: they got a major boost when a pet dealer purposely
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: released three hundred of them.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: That's a crazy number, like non non natives start with
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: like two four.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: When I was at three hundred, I had an iguana
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: that escaped out of my house for like two months
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 5: during the summer and then one day I saw him
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: hanging on the screen alive.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, hung out.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Got him back. What was a pet dealer doing with
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: three hundred iguana? Dude, it's like a mystery pets a lot.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: When he was asking himself, I.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 5: Definitely think there was a time when it kind of
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 5: became fashionable to have these things as pets.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, I'll be frank with you, man,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: like that, that's not an appetizing animal to me.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: They get mean when they get as a pen just.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Like not an I don't look at it like I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: look at a deer.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: Oh you mean to go and eat.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Saying I look at it deer, it looks like a
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: good thing to eat.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: When I look at an iguana, I look at a chicken,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: for instance, I see a chicken, I'm like, man, someone
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: should eat that chicken. But when I look at an iguana,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: this is not the feeling I get.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: Heyfi, we pull up that picture that coyote holding that iguana.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh man, that's cool. Imagine like it just
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: looks like a pheasant sitting in his mouth.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's a big chunk of food for a coyote.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't even bothered to try to kill that
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: thing either has he.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 6: They just shake him up. There's a couple of videos
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: on the internet. You should go find the graving one
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: iguanas big as he is.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I imagine that ends with him just like biting
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: into their guts. Now, how do you how else do
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: you think he kills?
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: You?
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: Shake them and well you eat the guts first, and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: you know that's a fact. I'm just getting like other animals,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: listen to kyote man, he don't want iguana guts?
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 5: Like, what do you think of those hams?
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: What do you think a kyote does though, to like
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: make its heart stop eating?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Shake it?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: Break its back.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: I bet he just starts eating.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he don't care.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: He starts eating in the guts and then dead.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying the iguana he's got there, I don't know.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: I just get a live vibe off that or on.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree, That's why I think it ends
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: with him like putting a paw on his you know
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: front ar.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean no, they use that tail like a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: whip man.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all surprised they are going to that size.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: Can't almost defend himself against just a little twenty pound kai.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: Well, that's what's interesting.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: Back to the news story.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: Back to the news story, they'll freeze and just turn
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: into little iguana pops. They fall out of the trees,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: right out of the trees, and his coyotes nom vulnerable.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: So going back, if Phil, you'll pull up that picture
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: of where the study is conducted, just south of Miami,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: the epicenter of the three hundred iguana release. They basically
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: did a scat pickup study near the Montgomery Botanical Center
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: where twice weekly for a year, they followed a trail
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: and picked up one hundred and twenty scat samples. They
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: then dissected those and put it into two hundred and
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: thirty one different identifiable identifiable food items. And then you
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 6: can see this is broken down month and what's it
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 6: just to call out this is occurrence, not volume. So
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: if they found one occurrence of a seed that is
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: categorized the same as a giant chunk of iguana ham
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: or whatever it may be. So there's a little bit
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: of nuance that they could dive into more. But seventy
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 6: four instances of grass, ninety five of various plants, which
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 6: stretches the whole gambit of avocados, mangoes, palm seeds or
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: not palm seeds but other fruits and vegetables, twenty six
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 6: instances of iguanas, and then twenty three instances of palm seeds,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: and then onesie twosies of crabs, snails and shells.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Extreme onesies twosies. Yes, it's like what they're not eating
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: is bird feathers, gravel, snails and crabs and mammals. There
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: were zero instances of mammal.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Fur and bird bones are only five.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, and so there's also the total zeros aren't even
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: on the way exactly.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: There's things that they literally did not find evidence of
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: mammal fur.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Damn.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 6: And so you're my first thought is the iguana pops like, hey,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: they're just eating them in the winter, they freeze, they
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: fall out of the tree and opportunistic kyot goes and
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 6: eats them, and anecdotally that's that. There's reports of that.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: But if you look in that June column, there's just
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 6: as there's six occurrences of iguana in the scat that's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 6: the same, that's one less than January, which is the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 6: peak at seven. And then it's pretty evenly distributed except
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 6: in March and April, which points to when the fruiting
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 6: trees are like when the plant mass is kind of best.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: Palm seeds really palm seeds pick up when iguanas drop.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: Off, Yes, yep, and so like it's more the same
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 6: of a kyotes are awesome, opportunity to stay hunters.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: That's not true. Tell me is that in March and April,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 3: there's it's zero's across the board. It's like they're not
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: It's like there's nothing.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 5: They moved out March in April they only had they
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 5: had zero samples.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: Right, so they they're they didn't find any scat on
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 6: that track that they follow. Oh so I see, yeah,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: get me samples, so we don't know there.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: So like if you take June for instance, and when
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: they did their June scat walk, they picked up fourteen samples. Okay,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: of those samples, six of the samples had grass, nine
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: of the samples had just plants whatever. That means. Six
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: of the samples had iguana meat, three had palm seeds,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: one had gravel in it, and one had snail in it.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: And if you go up to January, every single piece
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: of scat had iguana in it.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if this informed everything you knew about a coyotes diet,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: you'd be like, they primarily eat iguana. Yeah, they're iguanavores.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: Oh, I like that's I'd like to know if they're
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 5: doing this because this, like the the ecosystem of South
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Florida is so screwed up that there are no like
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 5: mammals for them, or it's just like eating what there
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 5: is the most of available, you know, Yeah, easiest path
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 5: of you.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: Know, it's it's definitely an element of the easiest. It's
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: there's an interesting discussion of like a non native species
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 6: that's all that and is intersecting with potentially a neo
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 6: native or a naturalized species. I've asked Jim a Jim Hefflefinger,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 6: the Dear Preacher, about his thoughts on on the neo
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 6: native classification.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: He doesn't like it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 6: He thinks it's just a shiny Why not, it's just
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: a shiny new word that doesn't really mean what what word?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Does? He like? Naturalized? Oh, sure, it's just what it is.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 6: So this is like a naturalized species, Say, yeah, I
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: think it's I think it's better that is just has
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: naturally expanded the range, not a human introduction and local
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: biologists are all about the predation of these iguanas, but
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: it's not going to solve the problem by any means.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: If you imported like a thousand, maybe, but you're probably
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: gonna run into human conflicts before you run and run
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: out of iguanas.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Who thought? Who thought?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 6: But they got iguana bird iguana dogs chasing down iguanas.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: Now down there, it's great, great fun, dude.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Where we When we were in Key West, when I
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: found a flyer for an outfitter offering U day hunts
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: like eight hundred.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Bucks, it's air gon iguanas.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: Uh, I caught one on a fly once when I
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 5: was down fishing Nick dragging that thing across the sand
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: that I want to jump right on it.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: That should get you like an A plus plus on
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: that environmental friendliness scale nonnative local over.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: To me tungsten, Well, first, I got it.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I want to get I want to give people a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: glimpse into the inner workings of of what we cover
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: and don't cover.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: You see how I see the first word I have there?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I do.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: It's my favorite subject.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: Grand Platner.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 3: I want to have to talk about them for a
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: much longer.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I've wanted.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: But okay, here's the here's the thing.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: The news show has a certain promise where we deal
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: with ish us have to do with natural resources, hunting, fishing, conservation,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: outdoor stuff what we talk about now. So we would
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: never be able to talk about a political candidate, right,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: can't do that. But this guy that was running in
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Maine was an oyster farmer. So then I kept thinking,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: are we allowed to talk about a Senate candidate.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: Who's an oyster farmer and kind of an oyster farmer?
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got one client.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: To be clear, this goes back before what just happened
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 5: with him.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this has been this has been vexing me
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: for months because what happened is in Maine, there's these
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: there's these progressive Democrat operatives who have made it their
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: project is to travel around the country looking for what
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: they deemed to be working class progressives that they'll that
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: they'll promote into being politicians. So they track down this
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: grand Platter guy. See some video he made about oyster farming.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: And the one way to tell if someone has working
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: class bona fides would be that you'd go ask working
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: class people. But they don't know about that. They think
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: because he's got an oyster farm. He's like a working
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: class guy, but his oyster farm.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: His only client is his mom.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: His dad is a lawyer. He went to boarding school,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: he served in the Marines. Says he bought a house
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: on a VA loan. His dad bought finance the house.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: Has a SS tattoo on his chest, a total comp
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: a Nazi tattoo on his chest. The vetting on this
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: guy was terrible, and I kept wanting to talk about it,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: but I can't because it's not part of our deal.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, he is an oyster farmer,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: but not really, and now he's dropping out of the race.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: So I missed my chance.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he was like a cosplay and oyster farmer.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: I missed my chance.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: Did he officially drop out?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Everyone? Because here's the deal that, here's the deal. They've
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: like by the time his airs, he might be yeah, yeah,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: like it is in some circles, it is that, and
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm treading in very very very dangerous delicate territory
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: right now. But in some circles, on some crimes, an
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: accusation is equivalent to guilt, and in his affiliation, in
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: his party affiliation, would be an accusation is equivalent to guilt.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: He has been accused of sexual misconduct, which is equivalent
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: to being guilty.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: They're on that's the rule they made and he has
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: to live by the rule. So we can't talk about him.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna talk about tungsten, and we've been like,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: but to talk about tungsten, I want to talk about
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: my kids in Ammo cans. Okay, everyone knows an Ammo can,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: a green metal Ammo can, fifty or thirty cow just
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: ammal cans. My kids only know ammal cans through the
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: context of geocash of a geocache. They have just out
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: of shit luck. They have stumbled into two geocaches, but
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: not geocachhing. Geocashing is like you take an animal can
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: and put some fun stuff in it and hide it
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: and then guys use GPS.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: It's kind of like an early GPS thing.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: You can go use GPS and you'll see that there's
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: a pin in some remote area and you go to
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: that pin and be like lo and behold, here's a
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: geocash and you take a little trinket out of it,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: and you leave a trinket in it.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: We did in my high school computer class to learn
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 4: how to use a handheld GPS.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 6: I had a brief fling with geocashing and the best
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: one I found was it was on a you know,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 6: like a little electrical box, and I was standing on
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 6: top of it, could not find it. And it was
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: a magnetic bolt head on the side of the electrical box.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: And you just barely uncreative.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Is great. So my kids, just out of total ship luck,
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: have stumbled into two of these boxes.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 5: Did they pill for it?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I told them, you take something to leave something? Oh,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: I got so in their head.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: Then we're at my buddies and there's an AMMO can
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: in his gun room and they're like, he took the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: geo because in their head an Ammo can isn't an
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Ammo can, and their head an Ammo can is a
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: geocash can. This is me and tungsten because I've only known, like,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: when I hear the word tungsten, I have thought of
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: like turkey bullets, TSS, tungsten supershot. And then all of
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: a sudden I started hearing about the tungues in this
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: toungues and that, and I've been forced to like come
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: to terms with the broader scale of tungsten outside.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 5: Of Turkey amo't weigh real heavily on the nothing.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: It's like if you looked at all the ammal cans
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: on the planet and what they're doing, how many are geocaching? Yeah? None. Well,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: my view on tungsten was TSS tungsten super shot, And
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: now I'm like waking up to this whole world of tungsten.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if there was a pie charge for all the tungsten,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: that would just be like folded into other or something
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 4: like that.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: It's the other of the other.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ten to fifteen percent of tungsten goes to munitions,
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: but that's military munitions. They use it in cluster bombs,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: they use it in uh what else I have here
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: about warhead missile, warheads, tank ammunition, These like these penetrator bolts,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: tungsten penetrator bolts which aren't as incendiarias depleted uranium. And
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: also you can use them in areas where if they're
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: going to be littering the battlefield, you don't have to
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: worry about little kids playing with depleted uranium in the future.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: Use tungsten bolts. Military uses tons of this stuff World
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: War two. There's a thing called the Wolfram Crisis. The
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: Nazis were using anti tank rounds made out of tungsten rods.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: The Spaniards were selling it to them. The Wolfram Crisis
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: is when the US had to go over to the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Spain and threaten roughing them up to stop selling the
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Nazis tungsten. This is the whole world of tungsten.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Now, tungsten prices.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Pull up that chart.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Look at tungsten prices right now.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, look at that.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: They've since dropped off a bit.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: So you go twenty ten, all these years, you can
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: think of all these years as US just shooting all
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: kinds of turkeys.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: It was basically free shooting all.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: Kinds of turkeys twenty fifteen, twenty twenty, and tungsten is
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: basically like they're giving it away. Okay, It's like it's like,
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: what would that be, like two hundred and fifty bucks
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: perse one dry metric ton unit of tungsten or equivalent
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: to seven point nine to three kilograms of tungsten you
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: could get for about two hundred and fifty bucks. Then
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: it just right now with the warrant Iran and some
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: other issues, three thousand bucks for seventeen pounds for seventeen
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: pounds of tungsten, it goes crazy.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: China is hoarding the turkey.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: AMMO like, China has been very strategic about tungsten.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 5: They're like those American turkey hunters.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Because they want to mantick it to the turkey hunters.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: The Chinese they're like when they think of what bugs them,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: they're like Taiwan. It's the tease Taiwan and turkeys, turkey hunters.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: So then it's like a strategic metal. They call it
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: a war medal. Okay, it's of that strategic significance. So
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: now me still thinking about tungsten. When I see the
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: word tungsten, I'm thinking about turkey schnitzel. Now it's all
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: over reported all over the place about this new sort
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: of like political scandal coming out of the tungsten world.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: There's a huge reserve of tungsten in Kazakhstan. I don't
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: know about how many turkeys they got, but they got
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: boatloads of tungsten in Kazakhstan. The Commerce secretary, Trump's Commerce secretary,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Howard Lutnik. Earlier, I was going to make a saucy
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  Speaker 1: Epstein tie in to try to make the story seem
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  Speaker 1: more saucy.
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  Speaker 2: It's tenuous. He was on Epstein's Island.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all the debate about who was and wasn't this
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  Speaker 1: he went.
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  Speaker 2: He took his family for life.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, he said it could be the Howard Luttnik files basically, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he of all the guys were or were not
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  Speaker 1: or never did, but did this gentleman had lunch there
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  Speaker 1: with his family.
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  Speaker 2: He meets with the President of Kazakhstan about all this turkey.
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  Speaker 4: No wild turkeys just looked at it.
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  Speaker 6: Well, they do have interactions with turks, but it's from
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  Speaker 6: the country, not so when they think the turks, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they're thinking of their neighbors.
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  Speaker 1: So he meets with them about how we're gonna go
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  Speaker 1: get all this tss, all this tungsten.
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  Speaker 5: Like, my god, I gotta take care of those turkeys
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  Speaker 5: out of Kazakhstan.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, they make they agree. They get the President of
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  Speaker 1: Kazakhstan to agree to let a little known US mining,
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  Speaker 1: a little known mining organization get a contract to go
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  Speaker 1: do the thing, all right, to go do the mind
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  Speaker 1: then they vow it hasn't been handed over yet, but
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  Speaker 1: the Trump administration vows one point six billion in federal
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  Speaker 1: financing to invest in and get the tungsten mine up
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  Speaker 1: and running. So now you're pictureing just tungsten super shot
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  Speaker 1: flowing into ammost all around the world.
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  Speaker 5: That one point six million was going to that small
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  Speaker 5: mining company.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're under yeah, they're like, they're they're yeah, incentivising, lubricating,
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  Speaker 1: making a vow for funding initial investment funding. And also
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  Speaker 1: there's some other money where the US would actually take
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  Speaker 1: a steak in the mind. But then this is the
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  Speaker 1: weird part, and this is like this is even reporting
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  Speaker 1: the New York Post, which is like a very conservative publication,
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  Speaker 1: like a very Trump friendly publication. The New York Post
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  Speaker 1: is even saying that this deal stinks because Trump's boys
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  Speaker 1: then turn around and take a twenty percent steak in
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  Speaker 1: a corporate entity tied to the mine. Lutnick's boys take
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  Speaker 1: on the banking function of going out and finding the investors.
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  Speaker 2: All around Turkey.
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  Speaker 6: Ammo, Well, when this gets investigated, it will get investigated.
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  Speaker 6: Don juniors can be like, dude, I was hot on
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  Speaker 6: this for my Turkey hunting exploits.
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  Speaker 4: It'll want, but it'll whine investigated.
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  Speaker 1: It's already getting investigated. It'll get investigated, but it won't
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  Speaker 1: happen because like remember with it. It's like it's like
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  Speaker 1: it's exactly like the Hunter Biden situation, Hunter Biden Bresma
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  Speaker 1: in Ukraine, and it's it's this situation here. It's exactly
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  Speaker 1: the same. But it is all end in partans, it'll
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  Speaker 1: end in partons. All this reporting about this tungsten deal,
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  Speaker 1: which not like my whole tongusten epiphany, my whole tongusen
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  Speaker 1: education of like what what is up with this metal?
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  Speaker 1: Part of this reporting comes out of these financial disclosures,
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  Speaker 1: right or like a lot of like a lot of investigation,
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  Speaker 1: the financial disclosures where Trump made two point two billion
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  Speaker 1: during his first year in office, up from six hundred
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  Speaker 1: and twenty two million, or a third as much the
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  Speaker 1: year before he returned to the White House. So again,
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  Speaker 1: even the New York Post is like, what is up
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  Speaker 1: with the tungsten deal? If tungsten prices come back down
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  Speaker 1: and and and turkey hunters are once again flushed with tungsten,
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  Speaker 1: super shot, I'll look the other.
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  Speaker 4: Way, Okay, I'll look your pardon.
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  Speaker 1: In the end, you know, it was the right thing
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  Speaker 1: for the American turkey hunter. No, I don't know. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of crazy. It is a hot. It's weird to
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  Speaker 1: see a metal like gold. Like gold drove world politics
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  Speaker 1: for centuries. I mean gold drove world politics. It put
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  Speaker 1: governments in power, it took governments.
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  Speaker 2: Out of power.
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  Speaker 1: It led to the colonial enterprises around the globe and
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  Speaker 1: the now like in this moment, it is Tungsten's It's
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  Speaker 1: like Tungsten's time to shine. Yep. From a lowly turkey
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  Speaker 1: Ammo to the front pages of the New York Posts
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  Speaker 1: and the New York Times. Tungsten. That's it, tungsten.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to look like a real know it all,
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  Speaker 2: start calling tungsten wolf.
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  Speaker 1: Ram mm, why this is another word for it. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: let me tell you this last thing about tungsten. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't come out of the ground looking like what you think,
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  Speaker 1: like turkey pellets. Yeah, it comes out of the grass,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Just mine out number nine tungsten shot. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's a real elaborate process to get it. But I
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  Speaker 1: was watching a video of a bullet hitting the block
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  Speaker 1: of tungsten. The bullet vaporizes against the block of tongue.
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  Speaker 1: It vaporizes against the tungsten. O Eankstra joining the news show,
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and Gentlemen, Max has got some good four to
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  Speaker 1: ten tungus, and he bought us extreme even discount from
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  Speaker 1: a from a poor guy that didn't know what he had.
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  Speaker 6: Dude, you want to know how those Uranian kind of
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  Speaker 6: traders work.
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  Speaker 4: H