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Frankie Kazarian Interview - FROM THE VAULT · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: We return after these messengers. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Podcast the show Foday March.
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  Speaker 3: All rightuys, welcome to a very special edition of the
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  Speaker 3: Major Wrestling for your podcast.
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  Speaker 4: You know who I am, you know who Brian is.
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  Speaker 3: But our guest at this time Frankie, because Arian, what's up?
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  Speaker 4: Braggie?
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  Speaker 5: What's up?
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  Speaker 1: Guys?
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  Speaker 5: All right? Today we are talking all things fish Town
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  Speaker 5: beat Down two.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 5: The people want to know the biggest event of our
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  Speaker 5: lives happened over the summer.
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  Speaker 1: The fact that you said that and uh, outside of us,
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  Speaker 1: three other people got that reference that are listening.
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  Speaker 5: Sadly we've discussed it and burried it on our shows. Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 5: thank you are very.
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  Speaker 1: So it's been established well known. Okay, all right, can
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  Speaker 1: we talk about Can we talk about the romantic setting
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  Speaker 1: we have?
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  Speaker 5: But the best here, the accommodation is the major wrestling figure.
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  Speaker 1: We are currently in a brick storage space. Uh, probably
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  Speaker 1: about ten by ten room with a little hallway.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: There's equipment and and tools and stuff everywhere. Can I
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  Speaker 1: swear on this of course in case I do? Okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: toilet paper, there's toilet paper. That's good. There's a snowshell.
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  Speaker 5: I think the Phantom of the Opera lives up there.
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  Speaker 5: That giant ladder.
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  Speaker 1: There's an empty box of fireball whist steel chairs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so we're looking, good man, a blower, a couple of
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  Speaker 1: blowers if we need, you know.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, we're excited to have you on. We had
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  Speaker 5: a little bonding experience, I would say, over the summer
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  Speaker 5: at the Fishtown beat down.
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  Speaker 4: Sure do you get paid for that?
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  Speaker 1: I did get paid for that.
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  Speaker 5: We all got paid, So we can't really bully Barry.
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  Speaker 5: But it was it was an interesting event.
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  Speaker 1: It was a it was touch and go there for
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  Speaker 1: a while. I don't know how much of the store
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  Speaker 1: you guys have told, but okay, okay, okay, yeah there
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  Speaker 1: was Oh fuck, I can tell you a real piece
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  Speaker 1: of ship. The promoters sitting in his car with the
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  Speaker 1: engine running.
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  Speaker 3: Never a good sign, A good sign, counting the same
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  Speaker 3: dollars over and yeah, it's gonna magically be more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then I walked outside and two policemen were there,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know why they were there, but they
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  Speaker 1: were just there.
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  Speaker 5: I told him, do not leave. You stay right here
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  Speaker 5: at the cops because I was like, some go out.
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  Speaker 1: And then and then Brian, you came up to me
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  Speaker 1: and there might be a problem here. I'm not this
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  Speaker 1: again because I hadn't dealt with that in years.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, but it all worked out. We had a good
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  Speaker 5: he's a man of myself that we didn't ask prior. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it was only a seven hour show, so we had
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  Speaker 5: a pretty big window to ask for our buddies, we
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  Speaker 5: can get out of there, and we didn't do it.
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  Speaker 1: I should have known when whenever you get to a
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  Speaker 1: building before the ring.
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  Speaker 5: Probably not again sign but either way, the silver lining
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  Speaker 5: of that whole experience is we got to go to
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  Speaker 5: Calowns late night. Andy hooked it up. We had a feast,
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  Speaker 5: and that's like, you know, I guess our careers have
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  Speaker 5: been like two ships to the night. We never really
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  Speaker 5: have really been the same place.
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  Speaker 1: I know, until until recently.
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  Speaker 5: We got to hang out and talk at colloons every
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  Speaker 5: gay time, and then I guess that's when we kind
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  Speaker 5: of realized we had a lot of common interest or
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  Speaker 5: your lifelong wrestling fans or yeah, yeah, so tell us
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  Speaker 5: about that, like growing up for the first time, you
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  Speaker 5: you know, were captivated by pro wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: So for me, and I've I've said this before, but
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  Speaker 1: like so my gateway into pro wrestling was the movie
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  Speaker 1: Rocky three. Uh. It was a huge Rocky fan and
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  Speaker 1: Rocky three especially UH just loved it, loved it. And
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  Speaker 1: I was at the video store as a seven year
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  Speaker 1: old boy, whatever it was, and I saw WrestleMania one
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  Speaker 1: the cassette, the VHS tape, and on the cover was
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  Speaker 1: Thunderlips and Clever Lang. I didn't know it was mister
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  Speaker 1: t and Hlkok and I didn't know who before I thought,
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, this is like a Thunderlips origin store.
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  Speaker 4: What is this?
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  Speaker 1: I had no idea. I've never heard me and my
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  Speaker 1: cousin because I had no because I only knew them
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  Speaker 1: from Rocky and so my mom rented it for me,
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  Speaker 1: popped the tape in and it was like, oh, pro wrestling, okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is you know, I'm probably into this. I like
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  Speaker 1: comic books, I like Star Wars like you know. And
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  Speaker 1: Tito Santana Versy the executioner saw that first match hooked.
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  Speaker 1: And when I say hooked, I grew up in the eighties, obviously,
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  Speaker 1: I was all in, obsessive just anything WWF. I could
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  Speaker 1: get my hands on literally anything. I was all consuming, dude,
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  Speaker 1: and it just and I never grew out of it.
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  Speaker 5: Were you and kid? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: J And so those those toys came out right, like
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  Speaker 1: that's right when those toys dropped. And I remember for
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  Speaker 1: my birthday that year, I got my first figure since
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  Speaker 1: I think we talked about that a little.
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  Speaker 4: Bit on this podcast in a place was the was
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  Speaker 4: the was the.
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  Speaker 1: Iron Cheek lg in cool? And it was? And it
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  Speaker 1: was it was cool because it wasn't the whole Cogan,
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  Speaker 1: it was the it was the Iron Cheek. So I
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  Speaker 1: had the bad guy, and so I had to get
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  Speaker 1: the good guy. And so so Iron Cheek was my
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  Speaker 1: first one. And uh and yeah, and I uh literally
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  Speaker 1: had probably every nine of them. Some of the later
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  Speaker 1: issues that I couldn't get my hands on that.
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  Speaker 5: I had eight people realized some of those were only
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  Speaker 5: in Canada.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah okay, later ones were just in Canada, like the
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  Speaker 4: Black Cards and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah okay, okay, Yeah, So I never had Warrior, but
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  Speaker 1: like so for me, it was you know, on the
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  Speaker 1: back of the box, they showed you who was in
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  Speaker 1: that series. And then as I got all those series,
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  Speaker 1: like when you would get I would send away, I
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  Speaker 1: would send proof of purchases away and I would LGN
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  Speaker 1: would send me little catalogs and I would showcase all
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  Speaker 1: the new ones and they're like these little, tiny, like
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  Speaker 1: color catalogs and had all their toys, like the mask
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  Speaker 1: toys and all the wall of things, and then and
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  Speaker 1: then the wrestlers and it was the new line and
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  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, that was how you first that
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  Speaker 1: was how you first saw him. Was like, oh, they're
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  Speaker 1: making st.
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  Speaker 4: Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, they're making Corporal Kursher, they're making ten or CD,
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  Speaker 1: which those the choices of those alone that's a whole
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  Speaker 1: nother topic. But but it was like, wow, that was
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  Speaker 1: the first time you saw him, and it's like can
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  Speaker 1: you just see him in stores for months? And when
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  Speaker 1: you finally did, it was like, oh, you're salivating.
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  Speaker 5: So that's interest because like most kids like in that era,
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  Speaker 5: you were like almost ahead of your time to even
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  Speaker 5: have that like connection because most people just go, you know,
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  Speaker 5: you turn the corner the eyland go.
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  Speaker 1: What yeah, yeah, you know. I had the catalog, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but but it was like I didn't see in person
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  Speaker 1: until I saw them there and all their shiny glory.
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  Speaker 5: You know, people they don't realize I spoiled you know,
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  Speaker 5: fan fast aw, they show you everything that's coming out.
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  Speaker 5: For a year and a half, it was almost like
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  Speaker 5: no surprises, you know what I mean, Like and you're
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  Speaker 5: seeing like digital renders of these things before they're even
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  Speaker 5: a real product there.
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  Speaker 1: And it was like in the store. I grew up
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  Speaker 1: in a small town in southern California, and the stores
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  Speaker 1: I went into it had like, you know, it had
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  Speaker 1: cheap vulcoff, Piper, Hibby Jim and Junk your Dog every
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  Speaker 1: week every week. And I went in there and there's
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  Speaker 1: there's big John Studd. Oh my god. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just because because I knew what was in
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  Speaker 1: there and I knew what I wanted to so it
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  Speaker 1: was it was spectacular.
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  Speaker 5: Wow. So you collected other stuff, other toys as.
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  Speaker 1: A kid, Yeah, I collected other toys. I mean I was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I get a kid of the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: So I was into Star Wars. I was into Marble,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all the stuff I'm still into. But we
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  Speaker 1: just didn't grow up, no, And that's just it never
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  Speaker 1: grew out of it.
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  Speaker 5: It's like if you love for Rest and I think
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  Speaker 5: that it's the boy wonder of it, I think, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. I always tell myself if I
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  Speaker 5: if I lose that, then why am I doing this?
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  Speaker 5: Because it's so hard and so weird and difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I'm convinced this keeps us young.
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  Speaker 6: Dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I like, you're whatever age you got into
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  Speaker 3: the business at, you're that age forever.
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  Speaker 5: That sounds about it. I just scrolled through the fan questions.
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  Speaker 5: Someone's question was like, yeah, how are you the same
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  Speaker 5: age forever? Or they're like, what's your sect?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got in when I was twenty nineteen twenty.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, we're superture a little bit, you get families, little
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  Speaker 3: bit of a dog, but like, yeah, I mean last night.
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  Speaker 4: We're out to like Thwough the morning hotel, like drink
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  Speaker 4: and there were like.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're grown telling ridiculous stories.
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  Speaker 5: I'm wishing nothing yet.
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  Speaker 4: And I didn't feel bad about it one band.
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  Speaker 1: I felt normal laughing over the dumbest stuff ever. But
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  Speaker 1: uh no, I agree. I did collect other stuff, uh DC, Marvel,
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  Speaker 1: Toy Star Wars, but like again, I was so obsessed
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  Speaker 1: with wrestling it was like that was it. I remember
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  Speaker 1: specifically with LGN, like, uh, I don't you guys would
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  Speaker 1: know this better than I did. But when they came
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  Speaker 1: out with a blue cage, like I don't was that
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  Speaker 1: available in stores because I had to send away for it.
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  Speaker 4: He had it.
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  Speaker 5: I never had it. I just got it, like last year.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't have a kid.
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  Speaker 1: I sent away and it came. I ordered that and
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  Speaker 1: it came, and I also ordered the Bulldogs, so I got.
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  Speaker 1: I came home from school one day and I had
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  Speaker 1: this big pack. You know, the blue cage in the
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  Speaker 1: Bulldog of Dude. Unbelievable. But I don't remember. I don't
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  Speaker 1: remember that ever. I mean just remember them seeing I
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  Speaker 1: never saw it in a store, so I had as.
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  Speaker 3: A kid, But I don't know if I got it
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  Speaker 3: like secondhand or had a garage cellar in a store.
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  Speaker 4: I was so young. I know I had it. I
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  Speaker 4: just don't know how I got it or where I got.
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  Speaker 5: It's a quality item I just got. It's very thick
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  Speaker 5: and durable for those figures and whatnot. Yeah, the door
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  Speaker 5: is like a misconception because it doesn't work, but.
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  Speaker 4: The door open, it's like right there, just like let
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  Speaker 4: it articulate a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I like the blue cage, but I never had to
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  Speaker 1: work in it, so I understand why Guy's stone.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't imagine bumping on it dance sounds like a nightmare. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Did you ever try to kill anybody with a King
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  Speaker 4: Kong Bundy?
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  Speaker 1: J Oh yeah, because it was like a brick.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, It's basically like, yeah, pretty pretty stiff ski.
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  Speaker 1: You could do damage with if you if you just
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  Speaker 1: pistol up somebody with one of those like a ted
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  Speaker 1: RCD or something.
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  Speaker 5: Or another questionable addition to the line teed r CD.
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  Speaker 5: Did we really need that?
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  Speaker 4: Did so?
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  Speaker 5: Like you play with these things that you were you
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  Speaker 5: like you had what we would call a fig fed
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  Speaker 5: like you're you're in charge of what's going on storyline.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so we did that and then really got into
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  Speaker 1: it on that level when the hasbro.
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  Speaker 5: My next question, did this evolve to that?
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  Speaker 1: And I was so obsessed with it, like I would
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  Speaker 1: you know, you know, we'd have our matches, Me and
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  Speaker 1: my buddy would come over and like, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: I would put together my half the card, he would
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  Speaker 1: book his half of the card, you know, and like
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  Speaker 1: we would go back and forth my matches.
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  Speaker 5: I never heard this mark of the same thing about
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  Speaker 5: him and his buddy, like a yeah, that was a situation.
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  Speaker 1: I would book my matches and you book his and
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  Speaker 1: like I would do commentary for his matches and he
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  Speaker 1: would do commentary for my match. Wow, and the things
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  Speaker 1: I would get so pissed off at him because like
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  Speaker 1: when he was when he was having his matches, I
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  Speaker 1: was all in. I was like, look at that. Oh
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  Speaker 1: he reversed hiptos a close over the toe, and like,
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  Speaker 1: I was so into it. And when he was doing mine,
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  Speaker 1: he would be mailing it in. So I'd be and
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  Speaker 1: he and he, and he'd be like, oh, it's but
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  Speaker 1: the thing I go.
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  Speaker 5: The thing.
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  Speaker 1: The thing way that that was a polish hammer. It's
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  Speaker 1: like your man, Dude. I would get mad at my
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  Speaker 1: friend for not doing commentary correctly on my stupid toy match.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, and dude, and then when the again I'm
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  Speaker 1: a little bit older than you guys, but w W
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  Speaker 1: A fan club was the thing, and they okay, and
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  Speaker 1: they would send you like your your sign up package
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  Speaker 1: every year, and they started including the tapes of the
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  Speaker 1: entrance and it was like, dude, now we have entrance music.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like the first one was like ultimate Owyer,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Snook, like a couple of some they were pretty shitty,
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  Speaker 1: but uh, but it was like doesn't matter. It's like
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  Speaker 1: we have interest music and I was like coming to
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  Speaker 1: the ring play. Yeah, so it really evolved.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was it's still the best.
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  Speaker 1: What's what's quick question? Best entrance music ever of that era,
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  Speaker 1: of that era, but I was just yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I love Texas Tornado for some reason.
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  Speaker 4: That's okay, all right, I just love Hogans. It's on
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  Speaker 4: my Jim playlist day.
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  Speaker 5: That's yeah, gets a pass.
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  Speaker 4: Like the Warriors on my gym Warriors that those are
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  Speaker 4: still good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite from that era, hands down is Jive Soul bro.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's a great and a great video as.
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  Speaker 1: Well, dude, that is I love.
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  Speaker 5: I love Dusties too.
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  Speaker 1: Season's good too. Yeah, those all had so much charm
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  Speaker 1: to you know, yeah, the charm.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, our fake pad days we were just as crazy.
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  Speaker 4: I would. I remember for the Undertaker, I turned the
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  Speaker 4: lights off. Yeah l O D. I do like the
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  Speaker 4: strobe light but it was just like me flickering the
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  Speaker 4: lights on and off.
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  Speaker 1: Commitment to a gig man, you have to commit.
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  Speaker 5: We would.
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  Speaker 1: We would always like the days of pay per views, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Summer Slams, oil Rumbles, whatever, if I had them in
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  Speaker 1: my house. My buddies would come over at least or
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  Speaker 1: my buddy, the three of us that would admit we
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  Speaker 1: liked pro wrestling back then, and we would always they
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  Speaker 1: come over a couple hours la because we'd have we
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  Speaker 1: do the pay per view with the with the guys
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  Speaker 1: before the pay per view, you know, like we're all
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  Speaker 1: rumbles were hard to do because you got.
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  Speaker 5: To combine your figures. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, like we always had the same pretty much
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  Speaker 1: the same. But like I remember with the Hasbro ones,
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  Speaker 1: my buddy had Demolition and I couldn't find them anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, hey, can you bring your Demolition and
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: guys because like the like with the LGN guys. Going
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  Speaker 1: back to that, I remember I I loved Ultimate Oire
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  Speaker 1: and why don't you make an ultim oyre doll toy
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  Speaker 1: figure sorry doll whatever, And I was like.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, we don't have to do it on
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  Speaker 5: this show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, I just committed a sense. Sorry. I used
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  Speaker 1: to have like an aunt do be like you're still
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  Speaker 1: playing with the wrestling dolls and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like they're not dolls.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyway, so I made my Paul Owen door
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  Speaker 1: for Ultimate o Wire a little customed there. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, Paul was jacked. So I painted
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  Speaker 1: his face. I painted extra long brown hair on his back.
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  Speaker 1: I put I put this cut these little vinyl and
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  Speaker 1: put tassels. But yeah, but so you know, me and
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  Speaker 1: my friends had pretty much the same guys. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I if I had something he did, he'd bring just
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  Speaker 1: those guys over. They were like, you know, we we
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  Speaker 1: both bring bring your Hogan over because his mind's a
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  Speaker 1: little beat.
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  Speaker 5: Up and speaker.
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  Speaker 3: That's like if I played very hard, So I'd go
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  Speaker 3: to my friend's house and I'd swap him out to
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  Speaker 3: get like a mint or one.
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  Speaker 4: You know, like my Warrior always the trunks. War always
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  Speaker 4: had like the black nose. So if I messed up
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  Speaker 4: the nose, I'll switch it out.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple I had to double up.
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  Speaker 1: I did my LGN Hogan. I had to get two
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  Speaker 1: or three of them. I had the one white pants
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  Speaker 1: and I had the one with the white with the
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  Speaker 1: white variant. That's a cool one.
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  Speaker 4: I love that Mattel just made that figure.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: Like again, I saw that pretty like in saying that
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: they're going back to that line. They just did the
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: Terry Funk logan. They're doing Jake and Rick Rude. They're
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: pretty like, that's pretty nuts. They're articulated, like yeah, you know,
• 13:29
  Speaker 3: just as as cool as like any new figure. But
• 13:31
  Speaker 3: it's in that old style, the old paint.
• 13:33
  Speaker 1: That's cool.
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: It's supposed to be an LJA and look at the
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: l J. Sure.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see that one.
• 13:38
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: I also did a custom Hogan back in the day
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: because one uh Saturday Night's main event, he wore like
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: turquoise trunks, like yeah, but this is long before that.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: This is like.
• 13:50
  Speaker 5: Eighty six, like like that.
• 13:53
  Speaker 1: Exclusive tuoise with white and I don't know if he
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think he wrestled Harry Funk that night.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: It was a sand Night's main event. It was like
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: one of the first Saturdays and Hogan's wearing turquoise and
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: I never saw it before since, but I thought it
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: looked so cool. So I painted a turquoise you know.
• 14:09
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna fast forward pretty far into let's do it.
• 14:11
  Speaker 5: Your first action figure comes pretty deep into your career.
• 14:15
  Speaker 5: Is this like a big milestone video are peeking out of?
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: I mean so like my first we're talking about my
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: T and A one. Yeah, Okay, So yeah, that Yeah,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: I was. However, and I think I've talked about this,
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: like that particular day they photographed like I was just
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: doing the suicide character, just came back as myself and
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: they photographed me and like my hair was in a
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: weird length. We've been that that image of me is
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: what they used for my action figure. I looked like
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: that for like one week of my life and that's
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: what they used for my action figure. So uh so,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: you know, the bitter scumbag of music would they use
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: that look? But like when the guy, like I was
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: friendly with the guy at the time, he sent me
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: the actual prototype of my guy and I still have.
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: It, and it was like that's pretty cool.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: It's cool.
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I have that put away and uh, you know,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: seeing it the first time was like, yeah, man, this
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: is this is this is cool. And then when my
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: most recent one came out, I think, you know, I
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: appreciated it a lot more because like I have a
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: son now, yeah, and you know, like going to a
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: store and seeing it, it's like it's it's surreal, Like
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: you guys probably experienced it too. It's just like this
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: is cool, man.
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: You can take away from you right, you know what
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: I mean it's just we get it, you know.
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, really, you're next to like Darth Vader. They're
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: still making Darth Vader's, you know, like you're you can
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: technically be on the same shelf.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Vader grew up in those toy aisles, and now our
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: likeness is in those toy Yeah. Sometimes you know, we
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: don't see the forest for the trees.
• 15:39
  Speaker 5: But yeah, this just sparked something in my mind. Do
• 15:42
  Speaker 5: you count suicide merchandise as like your merchandise?
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: Oh damn well, I think it came royalty wise, yeah, yeah,
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: paid for accounts yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but uh that
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: that figure was yeah, I mean I don't I have
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: that one, but I don't.
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Cool Actually, yeah, that's what we would say is toy
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: because very different compar to like Joe Schmo and Trunk.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, I was the guy that was photographed for
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: the action figure and for all that. Because I was
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I wasn't count that. Yeah, so that's.
• 16:12
  Speaker 5: Kind of a unique thing. Yeah yeah, and she was
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: not Atlanta merch.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: He didn't yeah, t shirts until they realized that you
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: can't sell something and says suicide on it.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: So they six months ago, and why it took so
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: long even when I came here to we're still this
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: guy because he'd been like nine people at this Yeah. Yeah,
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: it was like really, yeah, we're trying to make money
• 16:33
  Speaker 5: up this video game for two thousand and seven.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: The figure I thought actually looked cool, like the character
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: looked cool. It was just not a comfortable.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: No. I would say, your new a figure at this point,
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: not that new, but not tan enough.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that. Yeah, I could have been darker.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh look, oh look I'm looking at the real
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: man right now.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: And the figure I saw Frankie It'slamiversary and I said,
• 16:57
  Speaker 5: look at this had a hair you got ripped off.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah again again they they photographed that. I
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: think maybe the day that scorp and I won the title.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: So uh so the gear and everything is spot on,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I could have uh you know, I work
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: hard on this damn tan and uh you know they
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: could have Yeah, come on, come on, come on.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: So we work with this company, Super seven. They made
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: figures of us, and this is real, I wrote the
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: head of the company. He said, this figure needs to
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: be more jacked and more tag on.
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: It.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he busts my balls about it, tells him.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: He said he wants to be a more jacked Yeah, no,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: should I do?
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah? Fun story, you're doing.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: The Lord's work. Yeah, but yeah, this one is cool
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: because it was the first. It was the first one
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that came with the with the a W tags, so like.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: That was cool.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: Anytime a belt debuts, Yeah, we get excited about that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: They're going to go Yeah that was Are you aware
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: of the Amazon exclusive two path Yeah?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I have that as well with the red gear.
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: So we have this psychopath. He does all our social
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: media and stuff and he is a how do you
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: explain d freedom. He analyzes wrestling figures for like the inaccuracies.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Basically basically sounds like a well well together yeah yeah, yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: He'll do like an in depth right up about something and.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: That if the wrist tape is the wrong color, like
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: he'll spot it.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Oh, or he'll be like, well, it's accurate to the
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: studio photo, but not when he actually did the match
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: that it's depicting. That doesn't make any sense.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Here here's a weird a weird trivia fact is Ultimate
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: Warrior Wrestler Radio six. I don't know where he's filming,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: like the backstage, you know, interview but he at one
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: point he switches his like risk. I don't know if
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: he took his ship, he took his wrist bands off,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: but he put him back out.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: He put him on the reverse way.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: So all of the figures depict like how he did it,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: like studio shots or backstage up but he didn't wear
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: it that way in the mask.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah right right.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: It's crazy because he's nuts, this guy, but he's incredble
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: at what he does. Okay, Yeah, so I know for sure.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: He broke down that Amazon tupac and said that this
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: like fantasy gear, like you guys did not wear that.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: No, we did.
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: He's saying, it's like way inaccurate.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Uh so I don't.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: I don't.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: If I had it in front of me, I could look.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: But we did wear that's that's red gear. Okay, cool?
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Cool?
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean we have gear that was red
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and my then the jacket I wore was black and red.
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: It I think that's actually what he was saying, that
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: the jacket definitely doesn't exist or something.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can, Uh, it's hanging in my closet,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: so it so the package. I I obviously have it
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: in the box. I've been taking it out and looked
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: at see how accurate it is. But uh, we did
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: have gear like that, and we did wear it.
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: With the red Okay, I got it right here on Amazon,
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: by the way, still for purchase. Guys.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so. That jacket's pretty close. The Sky had that. Yeah,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: that jacket's pretty close.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Jacket exists.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hanging, yes, hanging in my closet.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: Ye right, I'm saying that. No, no, this is no
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: way what you guys wore.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will when I when I'm home, I will
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: text you both photos of that.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh and that' stuff they gave scope of
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: your hands, your real hands.
• 19:49
  Speaker 6: Okay, ye see you know what Yeah yeah man, yeah,
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: now you know now you're uh now I feel my
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: poor guy feel insecure for him because he's pasty.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And I worked very hard on this tan.
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: And do you know, I don't know if you know this,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: but series one of these was like the Bucks Cody
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: Jericho or whatever. The original ones were, like the Colorless Wall.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: Casp for the Ghost White were they really.
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: I didn't know that they all had to fix the
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: whole oh man, because they're all like.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I would have been furious if I was in that set.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, quit the biz.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know if your listeners know that that Cordona
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and I are are constantly battling for Tannisman and play wrestling. Well,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: we're both, We're both we're both trying to reach the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: unachievable ninety seven Hogan.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: I like me and Jelsea had an argument that she
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: was telling me that I was too tannem.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Like they know such thing.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not tanning this way to go on a day
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: with you. I'm a pro wrestler, right right right.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: My wife had argument with her. She's like, I don't
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: want your tanner on my legs. If I get that
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: you're a female trying to good for like pro wrestling,
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: you can't be can't.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Be enough t Yeah until I'm until I'm Hogan ninety seven.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: That's that's no, I can't.
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got in a text argument she sent me
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: like the gift of like Ross from friends when he
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: has that Tannags line and said, I set it back?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: What ho get played the air guitar that belt like
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm going for?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, think of that too. Think of like that
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: that's just sun and tanning beds, because that's like the eighties.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: That's like, there wasn't spring real. That's he's a real man.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: That was his skin.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: What I hadn't really processed that, that's.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: That was his skin. You know, the hours he had
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to spend in beds and on the beach.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: I remember when I first met Joe Henning became friends
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: with him. I was like, because I'm such a mark
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: from Miss Perfect, I was like, how is you dad?
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I was not an amazing thing. He goes bro We had
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: a tanning bit in our house. Yeah, so I'm like,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: oh wow.
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: I need something like that.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So my my family owned a tanning slum for for
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: fifteen years and when we sold it, my parents kept
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a bed and they have it and I still use
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: it so I have access to attending.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: That's the bulbs and switching.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I switch out bulbs every couple of years.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: But bulbs last because I'm the only one that uses it,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: so they last for a long time.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Cool.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: One time I was tanning and the tanning bed doing
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: something maybe I should have been doing at Gallows Cave
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: it and opened it up and it scared his both
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: if you.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Get it's one of the it's one of those times
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: like I laughed so hard something like something my body
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: was like to give out. I was laughing. Yeah, I
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: finished tanning. I walk out. I run into Gallows in
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: the hallway and he goes, oh, where's where's bros? Guy said,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: always in this room, And I like hit the handle
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: and opened up a gals. It's just like like I
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: just given him a present, and he runs towards the bed,
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: screams and whips it open.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: And oh now, and then oh boy.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: He starts screaming, We're I was like convulsing and laughter,
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: like I thought I was gonna puke or something like.
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: The question is did you finish as when it was
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: like almost like a blackout?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Oh god?
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, wow man, it's all happened so quick.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Oh god. Oh man.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: On that note, yes, let's hit some of these questions. Yeah, man,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: I was gonna ask on this anyway. And this is
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: kind of a very general question, but you famously trained
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: with Killer Kowalski. So Chris Sullivan's asking, how is the
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: training with Killer Kowalska. I mean that's kind of a
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: I mean wild thing.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: Then you know, yeah, it was it was pretty surreal,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: really cool. Like I moved from southern California to Malden, Massachusetts.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Talking about I just made up in my mind that
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: you were from Boston.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, most people have thought that, but yeah, yeah, no,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I you know, I'd research schools and I'd sent away,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and like my options that I had narrowed it down
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to were the power Plant, the Heart Dungeon, and qual
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Skis and those are the three that sent me back.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Literature and stuff and all that. And actually Brett Hart
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: recommend to Kwalski's and I was a huge Brett Hart guy,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, so i'd you know, I was working
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: at Champ Sports, saving up money, you know, and yeah,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I drove out there and it was cool because I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was I was lucky enough that Walter was still getting
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: in the ring and showing hands on and I had
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I was nineteen twenty years old, I had no friends.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Walter really took me in, Like he picked me up
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: for every practice. So we got to you know, we'd
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: go out to eat and we'd go to practice. So
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I got there early, I got to stay late. I would,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I would, And he liked me to drive. He didn't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: like to drive at that point in his life, so
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I'd drive his car, we'd go to church. He'd like
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: going to church on Sunday, so I'd go to church
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: with him and breakfast and and so I had the
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: benefit of having like, you know, an extra hour before
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: class started with Walter, and you know, I got to
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: stay aft so like he was, he was one of
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: my only friends out there. So uh, hands down, it
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: put me light years above where I would have been
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: just getting those fundamentals. And especially when I moved back
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to California and saw a lot of the dog shit
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that was going on there, Like I just my fundamentals
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: were on a different level just because of the way I
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: was broken. So yeah, man, if if it wasn't for that,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: there's no way my career would have progressed how it did.
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: Some people in my school. I'm like, the more time
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: you spend here, that quickly you're going to pick this up,
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: like if you've got to be a sponge, and it's
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: just so much to digest and understand.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: We're still ude, We're still us, We're still learning.
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Man. Uh Johnny JB. Where's your favorite city or place
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: to perform in?
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I have a lot. I don't know if I have
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: one Like New York City is always cool. The crowd's good, man.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: Most people just say no way, all my friends hate
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: New York and then.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I you know again, I'm you know, southern California,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: small town kids, so New York may as well have
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: been you know, Paris, France to me as a little boy.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So that's cool, Like, you know, the Philly's always fun.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Japan obviously has always always had a great time in Japan.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Europe is great. One of my favorite matches was in Dublin,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Ireland for for Impact years ago, me and CD against Chavo,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Hernandez and John and those, yeah and those, and that
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: crowd was was electric in Scotland like Europe that it's
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a different breed of cat over there, you know, and
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: any like this. This year I had the opportunity to
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: wrestle at the Forum in LA which is cool because
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: growing up, you know, a Laker fan and seeing concerts
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: there really cool for full circle moment for me. Yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: so that's always good to play a home game too.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: I just was watching a winning time on the way
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: out here.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Well that's phenomenal.
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: I got two episodes in I'm hoping trying to figure out.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of controversy behind it,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I know, but dude, it's so good.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I love Yeah, I'm jealous of all the guys like
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: you who wrestled in the Impact Zones at Orlando.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: Like I wish I could, like the Universals. I would
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: love that. If I could just go to work and
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: go to the Deep Bark.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Bro back in the day, you would have been in heaven.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Because like there was days that I wouldn't uh one
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: days when I had only had a pre tape or
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: something or nothing, and I would just go in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: park and either go on rides or sometimes go to
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: the pub. But uh you know, like uh yeah there's
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a pub inside again and again that's it. That's it,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: He's kicked out of it.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've Yeah, there's some beverages may or may not
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: have been had on television days, but uh yeah, no, dude. Honestly,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: the Impact Zone the first couple of years was another
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like just real cool environment, like white hot crowd was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: into it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: Just super cool to has the good the good stuff.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: It was. It really was man for a couple of years,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you know, but you know, was.
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: There ever any talking of you getting a Toy Biz
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Marvel figure like the original team I was.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think I was on that level at the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: point because that was like those were like two thousand
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: and five, I.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: Think two thousand and four or five six.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, so no, so so two thousand and so I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: left early two thousand and five for a little bit.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: So uh so, yeah, I missed on that. But even
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: even if I was around, I think like top guys
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: would like CD has one of those, but like he was,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: he was more of a top guy than I was. Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: so those were I again thought that was cool because wow, it's.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Marvel to this day. I think they're very unique. Yeah,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Chris Sullivan again, this second interesting where we're alumni here.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: Did End of a Cyber Space help you get into
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: TNA wrestling?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: No oboe? Yeah, yeah, he brought in TNA.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: We were talking about that, said you guys one of
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: the yeah, you guys robably Yeah, Yeah, I.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Had a Those shows were fun though, I mean that
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: guy paid paid really well. Yeah, but I had a chance.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I worked Chris Candido on one of those, and uh
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: that was really really cool. He's a buddy of mine
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: and we just had a fun match, and after the match,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: we both had another show in Philly, so we all
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: got in a car and him Tammy at the time,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Trace my wife, and we drove down and did that show.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: It was cool. So, I know, quite the opposite.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: Here we go. Justin, Michael, this is an interesting one.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Top three Metallica songs of all time?
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Oh God, that's like asking me my favorite breath is
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: like whatever whatever gets me to the next one.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I mean it's like that that you start.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh So for me, like I'll give deep cuts
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: like ones because I'm not gonna say like man, I'll
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: say deep cuts ones that I like. Like a song
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: called God that Failed on the Black album is one
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of my favorites.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: A song called The Thing That Should Not Be which
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: is on Master Puppets Something Newer. Uh, Spit out the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Bone is really good. I mean, like I I'm I'm
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Atallica defender through and through, so like I like, you know,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I could say all the grades, creep them, death fade,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the Black for them, the belt holes, but yeah, just
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: they I mean they don't. There were songs most band's
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: best songs, So in my opinion, you.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Get to listen to one Metallic album Rest of Your Life.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Which one do you think Master Puppets, Master Puppets, Yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: uh favorite. Joshua Stapleton's asking favorite songs to cover while performing.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Cover cover songs are interesting. I I like songs that
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: people that resonate with people. So like, for example, sweet
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Child of Mine, the first the first couple of notes,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: people are into it. Same with Paradise City, same with
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: anything Motley Crue like Kickstart My Heart, same with anything
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: def Leopard.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: You know, there's some that I brought to the band
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that I wanted to cover, like beat It, for example,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I said, let's cover beat It because everybody likes that song.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we said, like songs like that beat It,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: like uh, just just stuff that you know that's uh.
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: I get the people going.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I call it. I call it comfort comfort food,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, So like anything like that, like eighties
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: nineties rock rab I would like, hell yeah, hell yeah yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: That last metalitic question is probably just like which actually
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: you can cross from out here. We'll all be on
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: the Joco Cruise, correct, Yes we.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Will, they podcast, that's right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: The band will be there.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, man, Yeah, that'll be cool.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: Daniel Blotski's asking. I don't know if we can answer
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: this in detail, but it's been great singing you back
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Impact wrestling on TV. Uh to see your face again.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: We were love to know is this excerise, the impact happened,
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: how this happened, and the working relationship impact and a.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: H yeah, I mean it's you know, uh more and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: I talked late last year about doing something at Slammiversary
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and he uh, you know, he got t K's blessing
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: and they made the deal and so that that worked
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: for that and then uh he had contacted me after
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Slammiversary and told me about an idea he had and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: I liked it and kind of pitched some some other
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: ideas and uh he uh he said, I'll talk to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: TK and uh about a month later he uh contacted
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: me and he said, hey, we're good for that for these dates.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: It was like cool, so like yeah, so, uh so
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that business was done just I said, hey, just do
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: whatever you.
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: Have to do.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I'm willing. And it's been cool for me, man, because
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I've I've I've enjoyed the hell out of my time here.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: And then there's there's all these trades going on. People
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: don't realize. Yeah, yeah, it's like maybe trying to connect
• 30:56
  Speaker 5: the dots.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm alone, like you know, like uh aw has
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: gotten so and then for me it's you know, there's
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: some backroom deals going on. Yeah.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fun for wrestlers and for wrestling fans to
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: witness all this stuff.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: It's cool.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: No, it's cool. It's it's it's again. It's stuff that
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: just five years ago didn't happen, you know, it's it's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: the landscape so wacky.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Uh, Nick Cross is asking I like this question personally,
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Do you miss your ponytail?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: No? No, man, I like I had a good run
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: with long hair. Man, I was it was you know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: I was a rock and roll guy and I was
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: a wrestling fan, so I had to have I had
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to grow.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Did you like your hair looked good when it was dry?
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Like I had long hair, and I did not look
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: good dry wet it looked good, So I did not.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Mine. Mine was okay, but like I hated wrestling with
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: it dry down, So like my hair was always sopping
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: wet with a tonne of leaving conditioner tied back and
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the tightest ponytail ever. So like, uh yeah, so that
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that was. That was fine, and I liked I liked
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: having long hair again because I'm because I'm like, you
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: can't like heavy metal and not have long hair. You
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: can't be a wrestler not have.
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: Long literally like every cool wrestler.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I like, sure, yeah, gotta have long hair.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Was like it was.
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: Looked so bad with dry long hair.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: And then like in my civilian like ponytail, Like it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: not like maybe twenties wearing a pony like meeting some girls,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: like why do you have a ponytail?
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's but at the time you thought it was cool.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but like what we thought because it was
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: acceptable the wrestling culture.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: But that would you beat like a civilian? Why michaels
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: at heart that then?
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Man? Yeah, yeah. We talked about this at Kowloon's. But
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: when I first met you guys, when we were all
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: at that Wacky signing in LA, when you guys were
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: it was like a cable. It was like a cable
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: and it was me and Christy Hemmy were there representing
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Impact and you guys are there representing w and we
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: barely like Cross. But I was like, oh, these guys
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: are here too, and you guys look tired. And exhausted.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I think you said you had just gotten off the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: there back.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: When LA do this weird signing shooze people back on
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: out what we say?
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: That was like two thousand and seven, eighteen, okay, okay
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: And the only reason we even really remember it is
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: because I got the banner of us and oh kind
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: of yeah. Mom, it's like the size of this thing.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: You have it? Cool? Yeah, I don't have that. It's like,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: come meet I'd love to say that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Don't think that's cool? Man?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: What else we got here?
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: Great questions here? Oh okay, another cross promotion, big thing
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: we got coming out, all right? The Mike Bouchie retirement
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: show Man.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna we're gonna be brawling that night, man.
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, like six man tag Yeah players, Pat Bock versus you,
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Damian Sandel and the retiring Yeah, Simon Dean supernova, mutual
• 33:34
  Speaker 5: friend of all of us. Very flattering that he asked us.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: All we're supposed to be here today.
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I had breakfast with them this morning, so yeah we talk. Yeah,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: breakfast with them. We had some cracker barrel this morning with.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Your cracker barrel breakfast. I'd like to know that that's
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: a real question.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: My cracker bell bres.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: So you pay for it like Robbie or you just
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: walking out?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I pay for you. I'm not I'm not an animal.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Come on, I'm not a savage. So my favorite cracker
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: barrel breakfast and is ordered this way, and it has
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: to be ordered this way, is a don't go messing
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: with a country boy breakfast because it's called the country
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Boy breakfast. But anytime I'm in a restaurant and me
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and the bucks and CD, every time we order it,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you have to order it as the don't go messing with.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: A Country Boy breakfast?
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Which which is? Which is eggs, steak? I always get
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the steak, sour dough, toast, toast, grits, coffee. Yeah, country
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Boy breakfast, hands down. Don't go messing with the Country
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Boy breakfast. It's dude, it's you won't regret it. You
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: can also get pork chops if you're not a steak guy,
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: but the steak is outstanding for.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: The price is not bad and the quantity.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: You get a ton of food. And there's also cast rolls,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and there's fried apples and there's yeah wow.
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: So that's December fourth Times, New Jersey, December third third
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: or fourth is the third third?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, big fan fest that day early.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah fans.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Stinger, how about that retired Frasier Ye Mawns apparently. Yeah,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: but guess who's working on top that night?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Boy?
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, worry about it. Uh So Mark Rafflo is
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: asking any fun stories memories teaming with Nova as the
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: evolution in Phoenix Championship Wrestling.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh again, you know, Uh, Nova started working for UPW,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: which was my home fed at the time in California,
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: right after ECW closed, and uh this is when Nova
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: just got shredded, was in great shape and came out
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: there and uh, him and I had kind of a
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: similar look at the time, and you know, getting long hair,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you know, so like Rick Bassman put us together and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: we just we clicked. We had like instant chemistry, same thing,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and like, you know, he was into the same stuff
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, immediately became really good friends, and uh,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: wrestling chemistry was there. And yeah, and dude, I learned.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I learned so much from him and got to go
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: to Japan and got to pretty much go got to
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: go to Trinidad, I got to go all over the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: world and started getting booked out and excuse me, on
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: the East coast a lot more started was able to
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: make a name for myself. Yeah, him and I we
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: were just talking about this this morning, like being in
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Japan and uh they had a tournament with the wrestlers.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: We all got the bowl and one of the young
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: boys bold of Strike and Otani shoot dd tat him
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: on the bowling alley floor. Yeah, we saw a grown
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: man get thrown into a freezing cold lake. Just too
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: many memories of the list, but yeah, he was. He was
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: super influential in my career and like literally like really
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: helped me break out from just a guy that was
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: a so caw INDI guy.
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: It was like, you guys had several like w B triouts. Yeah,
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: I remember someone tell me that, Like they were almost
• 36:27
  Speaker 5: like baffled how you guys didn't get picked up in
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: that time.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: We we thought, like I I thought that was the
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: closest I ever had, Like at the time, I was, dude,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: we'd fit in perfectly here. We had a match. We
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: had a dark match the night after a hunter tore
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: his squad because that was in San Jose and the
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: match was in Anaheim, and it was like that one
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: of the impromptu table ladder and chair matches. Yeah, so
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the dark match that night was myself and Nova against
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Chris Daniels and this guy named suicide Kid Mikey Henderson. Wow,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and uh we tore it up. And I don't know
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: if this is the case, and I'm not putting myself
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: over with the match over, but I think it was
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: a little too good, probably too much. Of course we
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: did too much. You always do too much. But I
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: also think it was like, like, who the hell these
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: guys think they are. It was like it was almost
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: like maybe someone's threatened. I don't know, probably probably not,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it's probably conspiracy. But I was just like, if this
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't get a signed, I don't know what we can do. Ultimately,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he got signed, and you know, staying I went off
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: and started to doing my own thing and started with
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: TNA the year later.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: So yeah, Nova was like a big when he was
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: the head of the He wasn't the head of tr
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: but like the developmental he.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Was he was for that year he took but he
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: was the head of that position.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Like a funny story, like he always like took care
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: of us and like when we moved over to OBW,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: he was there. It was here obviously here in Louisville,
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: and we had just like it was a weird situation
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: with the time, and we just debuted on TV the
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: night before for the ECW And as soon as we
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: get to OBW, we get there and he calls us
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: down in front of like the whole class and I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: puts us over and how proud.
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: He is of us. It gives us a big hug
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: and silly everyone there hated us.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Oh god, really instantly, no better way to get here, yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: like we're already on TV. Yeah thanks, Yeah, he it
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: was it was just trying to be nice.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: But he loves you guys. He's he's a sweetheart man.
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah he bet I give him that brother rate for
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: that bat.
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: I have been talk anybody else. Yeah, but but yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: he like same as you.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: We just instantly hit off, and I think he saw
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: that like we love the business right away though we
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: were just like dumb kids, and he really took us
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: under his wing and like, yeah, honestly he would like
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: keep us aside after coming down there and show us
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: cool ship and really like you know, help, Yeah.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Real smart guy and dude, he's you know for people
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: that don't know. He's super successful in his post wrestling career.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: So he's doing great.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: And you know Simon System.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah there's that protein powder, old old leftover Ico pro
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: stuff that he was Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: Goddamn yeah. Anything else?
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: What is the worst town you've ever been in? Robbie?
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: So the answer I used to always give his any
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: town that's not so cal is tied for worst.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Wow, that's a good one.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Roy Lucier is asking tell us about your experiences with
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: the Kylie Hour Calie Flower Alley Club and why you're
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: such a huge supporter of that.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's cool.
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: So he's always we know, Roy, Yeah, just never. I never.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I don't know what this is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I never had Cali Flower Alley. Yeah, guy, you guys
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: being wrestling fan, you guys would dig it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: You would dig it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: You should come. It's a trip to Vegas. There's always that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: So I got involved because uh Killer Kowalsk would always
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: attend those and he would travel to Vegas, and I
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: live three hours from Vegas, so when he could travel
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: out after I had moved back, I would come out
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and I would spend the weekend with him and meet him,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and he he introduced me to that and it was
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: super important to him and he really so I became
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a member and this was in the same year, the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: same year I moved back, ninety eight ninety nine, and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: uh so I started. And early on they gave me
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: an award. They gave me a what we used to
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: be called the Future Legend Award, and like you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the year before, like Kurt Angle had won it, Chrispin
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Want had won and a couple of guys. So I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: was like, wow, this is you know, so they really
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: and that also kind of helped me get my name
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: out there a little bit. And you know, they're they're
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization and they do really good work for
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: some of the boys that have fallen on hard times,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: like a lot of guys that older guys, guys that
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: like you know, weren't top guys, but guys that you know,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: we're in the business, put in their time and you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: falling on hard times financially or are suffering and need
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: help medically with their medical bills and all that. Califly
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Alley is always there to cut a check, asking for nothing.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: They're not trying to get recognition for it. They're very, very,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: very good and very charitable in that aspect. And it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: all off of member donations and membership fees and all that,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: and it's a really cool organization. I wish more people
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: knew about it. But you guys, you.
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: Guys, well, if they give me an award, all sign out.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. You're an animal.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: This guy.
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: You don't have any tweets and posts something about the
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: one the one.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Earnest moment in this podcast, and you had to ruin it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: My god, good lord.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Oh all right, sure, and this one we half alluded to.
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: You know, this is Aaron said, describe the dream figure
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: of yourself.
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: It's a great want to go out.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Of toy company because I mean, you wear a long,
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: tight hair, beautiful hair. Now we can improve from this
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: this current aw Yeah.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: I think so. Like I would like a current version
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of what I look like now because I've looked like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: this for a while. Yeah, much tanner, much leaner, less body, fat, handsome, bulge,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: could be bigger, you know all that. Yeah, I'd like that.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I would like.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I think a cool buddy of mine that does customs,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: he has sent me a couple early like tena gear
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: like Neon green shorts and like long white neon green
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: pants and those look really cool. I think if a
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: company to vary.
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: W has that luminaries line, like they can make you
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: like an old school.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah see that think that would be totally that would
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: that would be cool like that and like a current
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: because like that's that's as current as it gets. But
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: something a little bit updated i'd be happy with. Are
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: we going to talk about the conversation we had when
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: we were talking about having to hide our action figures
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: from girlfriends and friends, and yeah, we've had this conversation
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: in private. Like I remember specifically having action figures and
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: being in tenth grade and playing playing junior varsity football
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: and would have friends that came over that didn't know
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I was into wrestling and didn't know I had action figures.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: So I had to take my ring and all of
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: them put them in the back corner of my of
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: my closet. One time a girl came over and was
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: in my room and my closet was peaked out and
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: there's half my action figures and stuff. Had to like
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: go like yeah, so like, yeah.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Well I was in college and you know I bring
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: girl first of I was living with my parents. Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I bring girls back to my room. Look like a
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: normal room, but you open those sliding doors, We're all
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: on display on shelves.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: I'd say, like, even like a year into my training,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: I was still kind of playing them. But I try
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: to justify that I was figuring figured it out moves.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah on spots man, I swear, Oh no, yeah, there
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: was like so and so just happened to go over
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: for the bell.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no that I would have guys that I
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: played footba would come over and if they would have
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: seen those, it would have been over for me.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Actually, you got toys and this guy this story when
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: we were in dinner. But I remember one time. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: can have just came home after school and I had
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: like a ninety minute period before baseball practice, and my
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: buddy was coming to get me for practice. But I
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: was I really want to get this match in, but
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: I was so tired from school, and I had them
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: out of my bed and I leaned back and passed out,
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: and I woke up to my buddy standing on me
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: in my bed with the clearest day tag team batcher
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: the bill my cross basically at the ring, and I
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: was like mortifying, Oh God, God, damn. I was in
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: tenth or eleventh grade, it was oh man going like
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: varsity baseball practice.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go to Toys r Us and ask
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: for a gift receipt because I was embarrassed that I
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: had to want the clerk.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: You know what they did. They were for me, But
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: now I don't give a ship at all.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I remember, Yeah, that's why guys.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: You guys made a cool which I was one of
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: my most proud things of this whole show.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I remember being in Toys r Us with my dad,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: and my dad was always super supportive of everything till
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: till his last days, and but we were in toys
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: there as we both used also collect I'm sorry when
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: you asked about collecting out. Starting lineups was the big
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: thing for me and my dad collected. I saw that
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and I saw that, Yeah, the delivery, yeah, I saw it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: So starting lineups we had like baseball and football specifically
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: at all those but anyways, we were looking at starting
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: lineups because that was acceptable. But then I saw the
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: new Hasbro Ultimate oyer, the one in the white, and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: I was like, Dad, can I get this? And he
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: looked at me like you still play with those things?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: But he didn't say that. Yeah, he just goes okay,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, he doesn't like me playing
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: these things anymore. But he never said he never said
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: a word. I don't even know what he thought that, but.
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: That's just what I was like, Oh okay, but anyways,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: I got that I was playing with all right, real,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: last question, what do you collect? Like now, like currently
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: do you have you have your stuck your own stuff?
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so like anything important to me. I had, like gear,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: and like I have all my title belts that I've
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: been all the Problem all the A w ones, the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Impact ones, I have all those. Uh but yeah, like
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the reason I don't necessarily collect stuff is because I'm
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: obsessive and I wouldn't be able to yees so other
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: than like bass guitars and instruments and stuff like that. Yeah, exactly,
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: and that's and that's an expensive hobby.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: But uh no.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: The last so when the last Action figures I collected
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: was when right before the Phantom Menace came out, I
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: started buying up all the Star Wars and I had
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: all of those in the package, and the first couple
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of runs of the Jacks Toys figures, and I had
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: all those and kept him in the package and then
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: eventually just got rid of those. But yeah, that's after that.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: I just I don't because I would, I would get
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: obsessed about it and.
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: Stuff.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I have all my own stuff. Yeah, I have anything
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: that was like you know, like T shirts anything, T shirts.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: What's that tray?
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You have all the trading cards of the stuff from
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Upper Deck, the stuff from the first TNA ones, the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: first First Impact ones, the first a W ones. I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: have pretty much all of those.
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I have anything that's like like King of the Indies,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like those big tournament back in the day and the
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Super eight tournament. I still have like the T shirts
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: and the metals, like any it's important to me. It's
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: not important to anyone else.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: But stuff that I like, what we do is so special.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: There's no reason you shouldn't be proud.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Of, right exactly. Yeah, you know. And that's that's all
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: stuff that when I redo my office next year, I
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: want to display, like like title belts for example, that's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: cool art for people to come over like it's just
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: you know, it's not just it's and it's different. It's
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: a conversation piece.
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: People don't have fucking tyler be No, they don't want
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: to be proud of it, bust my ball sometimes. But
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: like it's not like you're walking into my living room
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: they're hanging there, but in my office they're all.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: You know, it's I like to in the middle. That's all,
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: you know. I mean, I don't want to not acknowledge it,
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: but I don't want to have a shrine to myself either, right, like.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Something I did that for years too. I was on
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the fence about to be our mutual friend Jay Christian.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I was friends with him and being at his house
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: in Tampa, in his old house, he had all this,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: The way he had his belts displayed was was really cool,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I wanted that's what I
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: want to do.
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: I can't imagine what Jay.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, we worked our whole lives for this, Like fuck,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: like we deserve to show it up if we had
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: any success, Like fuck, we we deserve to be proud
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: of it. Showed out anyone who thinks it's you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: being a mark, fuck it that I'm a bar.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: We're awesome and fun, the rest of them.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: It's awesome. Yeah, man, cool work your ass off, man,
• 47:12
  Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, cool man.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: You guys are awesome.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: Man.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I love sharing the locker room with you dudes, and.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: I appreciate you know, the tan competition we have.
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: You know, we haven't really I'm talking about it publicly,
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: but I like that I have so much.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: He's looking today, that's never man.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: You better bring your a game December third, brother.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I don't care what we do the right I'm getting better.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: They better bring your a game. I got something special
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: Alright, all right, dude, thanks man, Thank you boys,